Honestly with that first clip, I have some friends that are new to Overwatch with the release of ow2, and they’re probably like bronze or silver, they’re not placed yet. But they figured out how to teleport the whole team with a sym tp some random ass spot, and when they told me they looked so happy and it looked like they had that same spark of enjoyment that I had like 6 years ago. Honestly warmed my heart, and when they showed me the clip, it wouldn’t work anywhere above plat, but the fact that they’re learning all of these small things just makes my soul feel whole again.
Us Old Guard gotta figure out how to make our own fun. The newer people are still discovering shit we learned like 4-5 years ago. That's what I enjoy about watching/playing higher level games. People seem more willing to horse around. See any hacker game, and the Torb duels that ensue. Forcing a draw can even be fun.
Was it on the little rectangle on either end above the train? Good widow spot tbh. Good view, can't be flanked, easily escapable. Especially for defending the point.
The kid got old pretty quick (no pun intended) idk why, i just despise children, especially at that 3-9 age. They just get on my nerves. Definitely not that i just couldnt get a girlfriend to save my life But fr tho kids are horrible
@@lruddy8820 For real tho, I think the kid said something like that because she thought of that, and didn't wanted to be mean. Like « you're too old to have a mom », it's funny how they are just too young to articulate stuff like that
Anytime I watch a Flats video pre-PVE announcement and I see something like at 10:30, where you seem him defending the devs because they were working on PVE, it hurts just a bit more each time.
@@anon9359 Everything she said was true though and flats is still too blinded by simple english words to understand what was said. "THIS IS NOT OVERWATCH 2" "Overwatch 2 IS pve." Saying that PvP and PvE were split so they could release this and keep the game going is just a cop-out. There hasnt been an update from Aaron for 9 months where he talked about this BS. (ruclips.net/video/GgaWQMkS0AI/видео.html) There is no reason for them to call this Overwatch 2. The game engine was the only reason for the swap because it allowed them to do the changes we have now. Saying that PvE is not coming out this year, flats, next year might be lucky. most likely 2025. (as it will clearly be a blizcon or something announcement before release) when PvE is released are we getting Overwatch 3? or is it going to be "Overwatch 2 - PvE (DLC)"
Actually, calling Zarya "Claire" is quite accurate. Zarya is russian for dawn, and claire comes from the latin clarus, which means "enlightened". they are very close concepts
also rein called telemachus is also pretty accurate. telemachus was the son of odisseus and it comes from τελε and the verb μαχομαι and means the one who fights from afar.
I think both Flats and the last Tiktok were right. Yes, Overwatch 2's major addition is going to be the PvE, and it's better to have the PvP now than to have nothing at all. But that's not how Overwatch 2 is marketed. It's advertised, and treated as, being the sequel right now. No where in the game, or in any marketing material, does it say "Story mode coming soon!" Instead, it's telling you "This is the brand-new sequel to Overwatch. Now pay $20 for this skin." If you weren't up-to-date in the Overwatch community and had never heard promises said by the developers themselves, you would have ZERO clue that there's the PvE mode coming, yet you're still subjected to predatory monetization for a product which is, right now, just a large Overwatch patch
to be fair to them its easier to market ow2 instead of smt like overwatch refurnished with slightly upgraded graphics and character design, its not them trying to trick people atleast in my head its just easier to say ye its the new ow cause thats what it is
The way people are thinking about Overwatch 2 is legitimately fuelled by emotions and not logic or reasoning. 1. Yes, this is a overwatch 1 large patch, of course it is, everyone knows it is, BUT that doesnt mean its not allowed to be changed to another name. Overwatch was meant to come out with the PVE and hence they would of been able to call it Overwatch 2 without people crying, but because they decided to do something nice, people like yourself are attacking them purely because they didnt want to keep overwatch 1s name for another few months until PVE came out. You can look at any game thats had a significant patch that made the game playable, and people say the name plus the dlc name in order to understand what someone is talking about, Diablo 3 for example, its DLC fundamentally changed the game into a good point so you have to be clear when youre talking about how good the game is that you reference the DLC, thats exactly this, but they put 2 instead of the DLC name, it makes absolutely no difference youre just conflating your own version of what "2" means. 2. Has it changed enough to warrant being called a sequel or should it need to be defined as different to clear up the confusion that can face many players? I would agree yes, yes it has, and its obvious when youre talking to someone who either hasnt played overwatch 1, or talk about how both the games changed or are different. A) The core game has significantly changed, 1 out of 3 classes has changed to a significant degree, 1 less tank (which actually matters) means every other tank was more or less touched in terms of hp or abilities to help with this massive change. 1 core gamemode has been taken away to make way for a brand new mode which is also a significant change. B) Engine and graphics have significantly been upgraded, everything looks and sounds 100x better. C) Monetisation has changed significantly. No longer is it a paid for game, which alone is a just cause for another name (Evolve, verse Evolve: Stage 2 for example) Addition to a shop and a battlepass that also were not in the first game, replacing loot boxes, a massive (albeit stupid and exploitive) change. D) 4 brand new characters, a few new maps, new base skins and voice lines for everyone to tie it all up. Was this a massive patch? I think fundamentally yes, its improved a lot of the game, its changed fundamental parts of the game where it warrants a new name, would people be mad at the name if it came with PVE? No, therefore its entirely justified to be called Overwatch 2 up until PVE comes out to prevent any unneeded confusion for what the games history has been. Would it be better called Overwatch 1: The remix or something similar for a year? No absolutely not, would any name after Overwatch be as clean of a name as Overwatch 2? Probably not, i prefer it to be cleaner. So i wish people would stop crying about a bloody name, it literally means nothing but clears up information for the majority of people, clearly people like yourself are struggling to understand the reason but hey ho, cant please everyone.
people are going to beat the pve they worked 16 years on in 3 weeks and ur going to be left with a tired game. The only reason this isnt an aboination/scam is that ow2 was free. How can u have any faith after playing junkenstein pve events for 4 years.....
@@cheezburgerrandy8672 This message is all kinds of wrong. You basically made up lies to justify your negative opinion on something that hasnt even been shown yet. Wow you beat Elden Ring within 3 weeks, the game they spent many years making that must mean its baddddddd question mark, question mark. No, its not going to be this big, massive ARGP, but it is going to be a nice change of pace and allow us to have more fun than otherwise we would have. Junkerstein is not, and no one will believe it will be, the main gameplay loop for the PVE, so all youre doing is literally making yourself mad enough to comment about something that you have absolutely no idea about, conflating modes that arent related and making numbers up for rage bait.
Yep, some people expect games just to be perfect and that everyone will enjoy it for 10+ years meanwhile there aren’t many games that last that long with popularity or are perfect, always looking for something to complain about
@@benhawk4214 From the little I know of the situation, his problem isn't that he doesn't work enough, it's that he doesn't want to learn how to do things properly meaning all the work he does is basically wasted.
In terms of how the tanks changed? I would say they all changed pretty fundementally because the role of tank changed. I know I'm not playing it the same way I was in OW1.
Fundamental change to the role, all tanks now have a passive, reworks to the way the kits work for six tanks (seven if you include Rein being able to cancel charge and the range poke on Winston as half points). Tank has been massively reworked. Looking at DPS, Reworks to four kits, passive on all heroes. And on support, they also get a passive. Lots of new there, but yes lady, there is no changes and the devs did nothing for two years despite working on a separate project.
Dude I agree with that. Also might wanna throw in the fact that not only was there big inside changes at Blizzard but also, THE ENTIRE WORLD KINDA SHUT DOWN LADY SORRY THEY PROBABLY TAKING LONGER TO WORK ON IT THAN THEY PLANNED.
They basically double crossed their biggest supporters. They gave all these promises and their content creators defended them so hard like flats is doing in this video, but they lied and deceived there most loyal fans. Honestly ita sad how hard he defends them here and they just pull the rug out from under him.
Some of the names the daughter thinks of are actually pretty good. Clever in their simplicity. Roba, Candy Blaster, Hamstie and Claire all stand out as genuinely good choices for those characters.
That corridor reminds me of many times on ow1 maps where if you're a slow close damage tank you either go under like flats says, or you are fighting uphill battle
The fact that people STILL don't understand that they weren't working on PvP changes the last 2 or 3 years floors me. This crap we got for PvP was cooked up in like 10 months.
personally i would like to see a support that was able to drop healing kinda like old torb armor so that they can look for flanks without leaving their team high and dry. it would be a unique healer than what is currently available.
It's 6 in the morning and I am crying over how cute this little girl and her dad are. Omg. I just want more of them aaaaaa ,v.v, Also as awlays great content Flats
About PvE in one of the reddit interview with the devs, they mentioned that PvE is not being released in box like product rather in seasonal cadenance. I am concern about the first impression for those who are waiting and that it's what OW2 is known for. At the same time, they have to get it out this year because they committed to releasing PvP. I don't want this to be Halo infinite situation, a lot of things from OW2 is similar to Halo infinite. From what I have seen so far from Olympus and Halloween terror, I am cautiously optimistic. Question is will it be playable to the point where it can be equal to PvP playtime?
Those events have made you even slightly optimisitc? Good on you I guess...They've done the opposite for me. I thought for sure they'd showcase A LOT more for the PvE event. Considering that's their MAIN selling point for the future of this game (their PvE coming) so you'd think they'd use that event to really show off some cool stuff and different things. But instead it's just a very basic mode with a scoring system. That kind of PvE exists everywhere. No one is going to play OW PvE if it's just like a million other PvE games. Because well, we already have those. If this mode brings absolutely NOTHING new to the table and doesn't at least have 500+ hours of content it's DOA. You can't have PvE content and that be your MAIN source for a new game and then have it end in less then 100 hours especially in a live service game. So good luck with them releasing anything meaningful tbh. On top of all that, if it doesn't come SOON who will even be left to play it? I can bet anything it's not going to bring back THAT many players period, so the longer they wait the higher the odds of failure. Less players overall means worse queues for both modes. High end ranked already has absurd queues for some roles, then splitting the small player base FURTHER will 100% NOT help that situation. It'll just start making queues longer even for the more casual PvP players. Both sides suffer. They don't publish numbers but if we look at EVERY possible trend we can find OW2 is down tremendously. And if they take another 3-6 months for PvE I don't see how it'll make any impact at all.
@@CrustedPork Halloween wasn't... a pve event... It was fighting pre-existing enemies with pre-existing code. They haven't actually shown anything and all things considered the halloween event was fucking great. Also how the fuck do you expect someone to continuously play pve content for 500+ hours and not get bored? Even elden ring only has like 150-200 if you take your time. Seriously man... look at the bright side or no side. Optimism can help you out, you're living in misery and need to step out of it.
We all know it is going to suck lets face it, it will be either grindy or you will be able to buy the upgrades, one time consumables and so on. Rather play L4D or Vermintide 2 instead
@@duckyduckington9736 I dont understand why people thought the PVE mode for halloween was great tho. Like it was great when it first came out back in the day, but this new one was terrible, absolutely nothing new. Same maps, Same enemies, Same characters, Abilities that didnt have different animations or any for Sigma. All you did was run through a map killing boring enemies that run at you for the highest score. Utterly boring after 1 play through and dont care about getting the high score.
For that first one, I have a 50/50 success just using dva to fly to point and cap. If I have a kiriko, they teleport to me while I'm capping, then the enemy team turns around and gets killed not knowing whether to run to point or fight the other half of the team. I only try it the first min of the game, if it fails, just play normally but no harm trying.
Awesome to see more daddy/daughter content and the favt that they were in your chat. With how much more fun it feels to play PvP as a support in OW2, if they had kept OW1, I feel confident that I wouldn't touch it because there were so many problems that when the team did try to address them, it wasn't enough or just invited an alternative like when they nerfed shields so people swapped out Orisa for Rein. Yes, we get it that it's not fun when they having you pay for stuff after 6 years of free content but I get reminded of people being adamant that skins weren't real content when that was all that was added to the game these last few years. If you feel like you're 'forced' to play the game, especially with how lenient they are with how long it takes to get to tier 80 in the pass, then you probably should take a break.
Ball originally was a back line/sniper diver who could play solo. He was good at displacement for the second tank to front line or dive targets. He was also a stall character. Ball was changed into a main tank who can help limit resources used on you/him by your team He is not amazing since the old ball is the best version of strategy so he is just not good enough since his design wasnt to front line in the first place. He is decent if you one trick him and adapt. However he is weak atm especially since Orisa is dominating the meta. Ball was probably a bandaid fix to snipers like widow, Hanzo and even Sobjurn since one shot doesn't work on him and he is very good at dealing with them. His mobility and damage is nothing to scuff at. It just dva is better at front line and diving those snipers and better against most characters so she is more likely to be picked.
That little girl is an adorable treasure. She's got some funny names, some poignant names, and then...BAM! - TELEMACHUS! He gets the most badass of names since he's motherless 😂
honestly with the girl pointing out ow2 pvp release, specifically when she pointed out mythic skins i do think it would be really nice if they were updated with new color palattes mythics are supposed to be above legendaries with an emphasis on customization, I feel like adding colors is an easy fix, though personally that's because I thought we would be able to just directly customize colors which would've made mythic skins even better and would make battle pass a little more appealing, because the idea of a skin with multiple regions that you can color however you want would've been fucking amazing, however I understand that's probably really difficult to do on models (maybe idk)
To.be fair with the first clip. Stuff like that really does work in low level play because everyone is so used to the just funneling down mid in a straight line that the moment someone takes another path or uses a different strat alot of players crumble and don't know how to handle it I used to play on console and switched to PC awhile ago so my aim is awful on PC rn but I like to believe I have good game sense still but with my aim being so bad I'm still not in the best place mmr wise so I see people not know how to position well still.
when the pve comes in, the game is gonna have a HUGE wave of new players. Not just for pve, but pvp too because they'll "just try it a lil", but they'll stay
That @fataliny_ tiktok had me molding! All the tanks had changes to accommodate 5v5 but outside of additional health / barriers majority of them had a significant reworks as well, a few of the supports did and half of the dps did... but ultimately none of that matters buff, nerfs and reworks should be done for balance not for the sake of "change". 5v5 and Push instead of 2cp means OW2 plays quiet different to OW1 (without straying from what OW is) and even so it was never the main point of OW2 to "change" multiplayer, it was mainly to bring in PvE to build the story and lore of OW (none of which I care about if I'm perfectly honest)
Honestly with that first clip, I have some friends that are new to Overwatch with the release of ow2, and they’re probably like bronze or silver, they’re not placed yet. But they figured out how to teleport the whole team with a sym tp some random ass spot, and when they told me they looked so happy and it looked like they had that same spark of enjoyment that I had like 6 years ago. Honestly warmed my heart, and when they showed me the clip, it wouldn’t work anywhere above plat, but the fact that they’re learning all of these small things just makes my soul feel whole again.
Us Old Guard gotta figure out how to make our own fun. The newer people are still discovering shit we learned like 4-5 years ago.
That's what I enjoy about watching/playing higher level games. People seem more willing to horse around.
See any hacker game, and the Torb duels that ensue. Forcing a draw can even be fun.
Was it on the little rectangle on either end above the train? Good widow spot tbh. Good view, can't be flanked, easily escapable. Especially for defending the point.
The daughter wanting to know when flats watches her video is absolutely adorable
The kid got old pretty quick (no pun intended) idk why, i just despise children, especially at that 3-9 age. They just get on my nerves.
Definitely not that i just couldnt get a girlfriend to save my life
But fr tho kids are horrible
@@creativename724nobody asked
@@creativename724 Quite literally nobody asked
@@creativename724 You despise children because you despise yourself most likely, so you direct your sadness towards kids being silly.
@@creativename724 I literally made it my life journey to find who asked.
Reinhardt is now canonically motherless
i thought that was obvious do you not see how old he is
@@lruddy8820 … as in he never had a mother, I don’t think anyone thinks his mom is still alive..
@@ooferdoofer7091 as a rule of thumb you should read everything on the internet with a slight tone of sarcasm
@@lruddy8820 For real tho, I think the kid said something like that because she thought of that, and didn't wanted to be mean. Like « you're too old to have a mom », it's funny how they are just too young to articulate stuff like that
@@lruddy8820 as a rule of thumb for responses like this the joke has to be obviously a joke and funny... I would've just admitted my mistake
flats is my favorite tiktoker
I started playing because of his tiktoks
Redshell 🔛🔝
The curse of reacting to TikToks
no cap 💀 💀💀
I don't use TikTok but I imagine if I did I'd be subscribed to Flats.
5:15 FINALLY! Someone who calls Winston a Gorilla and not a monkey. Winton can live in peace now
no, he does not want a banana
Nah Winton is still monke. Yes I know he's a gorilla BUT it's funnier if we meme by calling him monke
He is neither, he is a scientist. Come on
HES A SCIENTIST
monke
Anytime I watch a Flats video pre-PVE announcement and I see something like at 10:30, where you seem him defending the devs because they were working on PVE, it hurts just a bit more each time.
He knew. Dont let him bullshit you, hes said himself he knew.
"He doesn't have a mom" had me on the floor😂
Put this woman on the Overwatch lore team and protect her at ALL COSTS.
Do you mean the little kid? Because I would much prefer her on the team over the last person, lol.
HUH
@@anon9359 w comment thanks
You should clarify that it's the six year old girl and not the last woman xD but yes, get the girl on the lore team! We need Donkey Man!
@@anon9359 Everything she said was true though and flats is still too blinded by simple english words to understand what was said. "THIS IS NOT OVERWATCH 2" "Overwatch 2 IS pve." Saying that PvP and PvE were split so they could release this and keep the game going is just a cop-out. There hasnt been an update from Aaron for 9 months where he talked about this BS. (ruclips.net/video/GgaWQMkS0AI/видео.html)
There is no reason for them to call this Overwatch 2. The game engine was the only reason for the swap because it allowed them to do the changes we have now. Saying that
PvE is not coming out this year, flats, next year might be lucky. most likely 2025. (as it will clearly be a blizcon or something announcement before release)
when PvE is released are we getting Overwatch 3? or is it going to be "Overwatch 2 - PvE (DLC)"
From now on I REFUSE to call orisa anything but "Happy pineapple" so cute! ⸜(｡˃ ᵕ ˂ )⸝
4:00 I'm calling him Universe from now on that's absolutely adorable, it's also so wonderful that they watch you some as well!
A lot of them are cute/silly, but that one made me go "maybe he *should* be called Universe."
I mean his ult line literally mentions the universe as an entity.
"He doesn't have a mom". That one line made my day. She totally destroyed Reinhardt and made her own canon.
"That shit's coming out in the future"... Aged badly
Playing Rein is confirmed motherless activity
"What do you think his mom named him?"
"he doesn't have a mom."
GOD DAAAAAMN!
3:57 I guess Flats will be saying "DO NOT shoot the Pineapple." now instead of "DO NOT shoot the horse."
This aged well
The ending take aged well…
10:24 it hurts...
The little girl is adorable and I can't believe her dad watches Flats! That's awesome!
👋👋
@@RadDadOverwatchHOLY SHIT
10:05 oh boy... Aged like milk
So in conclusion, the solution to Tiktok misinformation is to nerf Genji.
Come up with a better joke.
@@zeusyy9346 amen
@@zeusyy9346 nerf Genji
@@zeusyy9346 that's a cool argument and all, but it gives us yet another reason to nerf genji
Looks like Blizzard found their newest employee.
The kid giving names to the heroes sounds like one of those Chinese Overwatch clones, and I love it
Actually, calling Zarya "Claire" is quite accurate. Zarya is russian for dawn, and claire comes from the latin clarus, which means "enlightened". they are very close concepts
also rein called telemachus is also pretty accurate. telemachus was the son of odisseus and it comes from τελε and the verb μαχομαι and means the one who fights from afar.
I wouldn't have guessed it but I have an unending appetite for this exact guy doing exactly this kind of content for this specific game. Weird.
I think both Flats and the last Tiktok were right. Yes, Overwatch 2's major addition is going to be the PvE, and it's better to have the PvP now than to have nothing at all. But that's not how Overwatch 2 is marketed. It's advertised, and treated as, being the sequel right now. No where in the game, or in any marketing material, does it say "Story mode coming soon!" Instead, it's telling you "This is the brand-new sequel to Overwatch. Now pay $20 for this skin."
If you weren't up-to-date in the Overwatch community and had never heard promises said by the developers themselves, you would have ZERO clue that there's the PvE mode coming, yet you're still subjected to predatory monetization for a product which is, right now, just a large Overwatch patch
to be fair to them its easier to market ow2 instead of smt like overwatch refurnished with slightly upgraded graphics and character design, its not them trying to trick people atleast in my head its just easier to say ye its the new ow cause thats what it is
The way people are thinking about Overwatch 2 is legitimately fuelled by emotions and not logic or reasoning.
1. Yes, this is a overwatch 1 large patch, of course it is, everyone knows it is, BUT that doesnt mean its not allowed to be changed to another name.
Overwatch was meant to come out with the PVE and hence they would of been able to call it Overwatch 2 without people crying, but because they decided to do something nice, people like yourself are attacking them purely because they didnt want to keep overwatch 1s name for another few months until PVE came out.
You can look at any game thats had a significant patch that made the game playable, and people say the name plus the dlc name in order to understand what someone is talking about, Diablo 3 for example, its DLC fundamentally changed the game into a good point so you have to be clear when youre talking about how good the game is that you reference the DLC, thats exactly this, but they put 2 instead of the DLC name, it makes absolutely no difference youre just conflating your own version of what "2" means.
2. Has it changed enough to warrant being called a sequel or should it need to be defined as different to clear up the confusion that can face many players? I would agree yes, yes it has, and its obvious when youre talking to someone who either hasnt played overwatch 1, or talk about how both the games changed or are different.
A) The core game has significantly changed, 1 out of 3 classes has changed to a significant degree, 1 less tank (which actually matters) means every other tank was more or less touched in terms of hp or abilities to help with this massive change.
1 core gamemode has been taken away to make way for a brand new mode which is also a significant change.
B) Engine and graphics have significantly been upgraded, everything looks and sounds 100x better.
C) Monetisation has changed significantly. No longer is it a paid for game, which alone is a just cause for another name (Evolve, verse Evolve: Stage 2 for example) Addition to a shop and a battlepass that also were not in the first game, replacing loot boxes, a massive (albeit stupid and exploitive) change.
D) 4 brand new characters, a few new maps, new base skins and voice lines for everyone to tie it all up.
Was this a massive patch? I think fundamentally yes, its improved a lot of the game, its changed fundamental parts of the game where it warrants a new name, would people be mad at the name if it came with PVE? No, therefore its entirely justified to be called Overwatch 2 up until PVE comes out to prevent any unneeded confusion for what the games history has been. Would it be better called Overwatch 1: The remix or something similar for a year? No absolutely not, would any name after Overwatch be as clean of a name as Overwatch 2? Probably not, i prefer it to be cleaner.
So i wish people would stop crying about a bloody name, it literally means nothing but clears up information for the majority of people, clearly people like yourself are struggling to understand the reason but hey ho, cant please everyone.
people are going to beat the pve they worked 16 years on in 3 weeks and ur going to be left with a tired game. The only reason this isnt an aboination/scam is that ow2 was free. How can u have any faith after playing junkenstein pve events for 4 years.....
@@cheezburgerrandy8672 This message is all kinds of wrong. You basically made up lies to justify your negative opinion on something that hasnt even been shown yet.
Wow you beat Elden Ring within 3 weeks, the game they spent many years making that must mean its baddddddd question mark, question mark.
No, its not going to be this big, massive ARGP, but it is going to be a nice change of pace and allow us to have more fun than otherwise we would have.
Junkerstein is not, and no one will believe it will be, the main gameplay loop for the PVE, so all youre doing is literally making yourself mad enough to comment about something that you have absolutely no idea about, conflating modes that arent related and making numbers up for rage bait.
"Overwatch 2 PVP early-access"
In a general manner, one of the wrongest thing you can call game developper is lazy: they either work far too much or just too much.
A notable exception would be yanderedev
Yep, some people expect games just to be perfect and that everyone will enjoy it for 10+ years meanwhile there aren’t many games that last that long with popularity or are perfect, always looking for something to complain about
@@benhawk4214 From the little I know of the situation, his problem isn't that he doesn't work enough, it's that he doesn't want to learn how to do things properly meaning all the work he does is basically wasted.
@@antcig That's part of it, the other part is not prioritising the right work.
10:25 That comment aged like milk
Flats: Rages for 5.5 minutes.
Also Flats: "Don't do that, it's not good bait."
I mean, seems like it was very good at being bait.
th- that.... thats not what he said.....
"Dont do that, it's not in good faith"
@@renzovila4263 he still called it rage bait
@@notster7114 he never said it was bad bait
@@questionablelifechoices7501 i didnt say bad bait i said rage bait the words are literally right there for you to read man
@@notster7114 everyone here can't read and can't listen 💀💀so many dumb replies on every comment here
In terms of how the tanks changed? I would say they all changed pretty fundementally because the role of tank changed. I know I'm not playing it the same way I was in OW1.
Yeah. Tanks are allowed to be way more aggressive thanks to the passive whereas in OW1, you'd probably be dead in about 1/2 second.
Fundamental change to the role, all tanks now have a passive, reworks to the way the kits work for six tanks (seven if you include Rein being able to cancel charge and the range poke on Winston as half points). Tank has been massively reworked. Looking at DPS, Reworks to four kits, passive on all heroes. And on support, they also get a passive. Lots of new there, but yes lady, there is no changes and the devs did nothing for two years despite working on a separate project.
hearing him talk about all this pve stuff hurts now in the future
Even more knowing he was gassing right to yoyr face n knew it was cancled already.
Robie is actually super close, Robie sounds like a short for Robert, and what is a common nickname for Robert? BOB!
@PottyShidder I dont make american nickname rules bro
@@BlackChanal Bobert
Lots of people said this in the tiktok comments, I didn’t realize it until I read them
more of the best reaction content from mr. tiktok himself
I need that explanation about what the team has been doing for years to be its own short.
Dude I agree with that. Also might wanna throw in the fact that not only was there big inside changes at Blizzard but also, THE ENTIRE WORLD KINDA SHUT DOWN LADY SORRY THEY PROBABLY TAKING LONGER TO WORK ON IT THAN THEY PLANNED.
I was letting videos auto play, I didn’t realize how old the video was till he said when pve comes out…… pain.
"PVE will come in the future" this aged well
"Suddenly I want kids"
~Somnus in chat
Are you volunteering?
Flats defending PvE aged really well.
They basically double crossed their biggest supporters. They gave all these promises and their content creators defended them so hard like flats is doing in this video, but they lied and deceived there most loyal fans. Honestly ita sad how hard he defends them here and they just pull the rug out from under him.
Some of the names the daughter thinks of are actually pretty good. Clever in their simplicity. Roba, Candy Blaster, Hamstie and Claire all stand out as genuinely good choices for those characters.
me watching this after the pve ending announcment crying becuse flats saying its not out yet and then they say it will never come out
10:00 This aged like milk...
"This is pure rage bait"
>falls for rage bait
Man she was so close to calling him him Donkey Kong
You know they nailed Sigma when he scares kids without doing anything inherently scary.
Sad that he’s actually a pretty nice guy, but then he gets into action and he’s terrifying
Watching flats talk about pve now that it was cancelled is so different
"PVE is coming"
2023: Yeah right.
That corridor reminds me of many times on ow1 maps where if you're a slow close damage tank you either go under like flats says, or you are fighting uphill battle
Lower level ow is fun until a hog or mercy pocketed sojourn comes and ruins your entire day.
The fact that people STILL don't understand that they weren't working on PvP changes the last 2 or 3 years floors me. This crap we got for PvP was cooked up in like 10 months.
Y'all all about how Reinhardt doesn't have a mom but imagine how proud of him his two dads must be.
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I mean I was thinking he didn't have a mom because he was so old and his mom passed away, but that conclusion works too..
@@evieinfinite My conclusion hearing that was that he was made from a cloning vat.
4:58 There is an innate tendency for us humans to refer to video game gorillas as Donkey.
personally i would like to see a support that was able to drop healing kinda like old torb armor so that they can look for flanks without leaving their team high and dry. it would be a unique healer than what is currently available.
It's 6 in the morning and I am crying over how cute this little girl and her dad are. Omg. I just want more of them aaaaaa ,v.v, Also as awlays great content Flats
Hearing past Flats talk like PVE is still coming… oh you fool… you poor, optimistic fool
The last one did not age well at all
Ya it did not
10:25 When flats rants about waiting for what PVE will be...
How many people forget that it was advertised as and still is Early Access
I love how flats tells the tiktoker why she is wrong me a bit of time later:”yeah but the is also gone “
About PvE in one of the reddit interview with the devs, they mentioned that PvE is not being released in box like product rather in seasonal cadenance. I am concern about the first impression for those who are waiting and that it's what OW2 is known for. At the same time, they have to get it out this year because they committed to releasing PvP. I don't want this to be Halo infinite situation, a lot of things from OW2 is similar to Halo infinite.
From what I have seen so far from Olympus and Halloween terror, I am cautiously optimistic. Question is will it be playable to the point where it can be equal to PvP playtime?
Those events have made you even slightly optimisitc? Good on you I guess...They've done the opposite for me. I thought for sure they'd showcase A LOT more for the PvE event. Considering that's their MAIN selling point for the future of this game (their PvE coming) so you'd think they'd use that event to really show off some cool stuff and different things. But instead it's just a very basic mode with a scoring system. That kind of PvE exists everywhere.
No one is going to play OW PvE if it's just like a million other PvE games. Because well, we already have those. If this mode brings absolutely NOTHING new to the table and doesn't at least have 500+ hours of content it's DOA. You can't have PvE content and that be your MAIN source for a new game and then have it end in less then 100 hours especially in a live service game. So good luck with them releasing anything meaningful tbh.
On top of all that, if it doesn't come SOON who will even be left to play it? I can bet anything it's not going to bring back THAT many players period, so the longer they wait the higher the odds of failure. Less players overall means worse queues for both modes. High end ranked already has absurd queues for some roles, then splitting the small player base FURTHER will 100% NOT help that situation. It'll just start making queues longer even for the more casual PvP players. Both sides suffer.
They don't publish numbers but if we look at EVERY possible trend we can find OW2 is down tremendously. And if they take another 3-6 months for PvE I don't see how it'll make any impact at all.
@@CrustedPork Halloween wasn't... a pve event... It was fighting pre-existing enemies with pre-existing code. They haven't actually shown anything and all things considered the halloween event was fucking great.
Also how the fuck do you expect someone to continuously play pve content for 500+ hours and not get bored? Even elden ring only has like 150-200 if you take your time. Seriously man... look at the bright side or no side. Optimism can help you out, you're living in misery and need to step out of it.
We all know it is going to suck lets face it, it will be either grindy or you will be able to buy the upgrades, one time consumables and so on. Rather play L4D or Vermintide 2 instead
@@duckyduckington9736 I dont understand why people thought the PVE mode for halloween was great tho. Like it was great when it first came out back in the day, but this new one was terrible, absolutely nothing new. Same maps, Same enemies, Same characters, Abilities that didnt have different animations or any for Sigma. All you did was run through a map killing boring enemies that run at you for the highest score. Utterly boring after 1 play through and dont care about getting the high score.
the little girl needs to name all future characters
For that first one, I have a 50/50 success just using dva to fly to point and cap. If I have a kiriko, they teleport to me while I'm capping, then the enemy team turns around and gets killed not knowing whether to run to point or fight the other half of the team. I only try it the first min of the game, if it fails, just play normally but no harm trying.
It hurts so much to see Flats staunchly defend PVE but he was 100% right at the time.
Make roadhog yell PIGGIE!!! when he sends someone flying w ult.
Awesome to see more daddy/daughter content and the favt that they were in your chat.
With how much more fun it feels to play PvP as a support in OW2, if they had kept OW1, I feel confident that I wouldn't touch it because there were so many problems that when the team did try to address them, it wasn't enough or just invited an alternative like when they nerfed shields so people swapped out Orisa for Rein. Yes, we get it that it's not fun when they having you pay for stuff after 6 years of free content but I get reminded of people being adamant that skins weren't real content when that was all that was added to the game these last few years. If you feel like you're 'forced' to play the game, especially with how lenient they are with how long it takes to get to tier 80 in the pass, then you probably should take a break.
Oh man the end of this video aged so poorly 😢. Completely valid and reasonable at the time but now it just hurts lmfao.
This end aged badly.
It's settled, we're calling him Hamstie from now on.
i was taking a rip when she said rein doesnt have a mom... im in pain lol🤣
Blizzard:"We detected modifications with your client"
Me:"I downloaded a mod to change everything to what this guys 6 year-old daughter names them."
Flats with the actual good takes and understanding game development isn't as simple as people think
That's how I feel when I watch Top ranking players play Overwatch, your understanding and how you play the game is like a different world
blastie is by far the best name ive heard for bastion unironically. i declare bastions new name as blastie :).
Damn I need that kid to name the chracters for my game I'm working on lmao
Milk this series until the government bans TikTok please.
W comment
Ball originally was a back line/sniper diver who could play solo. He was good at displacement for the second tank to front line or dive targets. He was also a stall character. Ball was changed into a main tank who can help limit resources used on you/him by your team He is not amazing since the old ball is the best version of strategy so he is just not good enough since his design wasnt to front line in the first place. He is decent if you one trick him and adapt. However he is weak atm especially since Orisa is dominating the meta. Ball was probably a bandaid fix to snipers like widow, Hanzo and even Sobjurn since one shot doesn't work on him and he is very good at dealing with them. His mobility and damage is nothing to scuff at. It just dva is better at front line and diving those snipers and better against most characters so she is more likely to be picked.
Bastion's name is now Blastie, forever, I will not change my mind
Just realized that the olympus game is a way for the devs to test and tease new abilities and upgrades that will be in the PVE mode
“Claire” is a way easier call out than Zarya.
she really just said "motherless behaviour" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
That little girl is an adorable treasure. She's got some funny names, some poignant names, and then...BAM! - TELEMACHUS! He gets the most badass of names since he's motherless 😂
I have the overwhelming urge to now main " Gwen and Robie"
The last one didn't age too well... ^^'
new april fools idea: rename every character to what she named them
I'll take my main being too scary to name. I'm good with that.
"you can't just abandon a game to work on another one", tell thats to Heroes of the Storm.
Anyone see in the chat the guy saying he animation canceled a fire strike? I really wanted to see that.
The naming ones are the best. They need to name some skins after her names lol
HE DOESNT HAVE A MOM 💀
honestly with the girl pointing out ow2 pvp release, specifically when she pointed out mythic skins
i do think it would be really nice if they were updated with new color palattes
mythics are supposed to be above legendaries with an emphasis on customization, I feel like adding colors is an easy fix, though personally that's because I thought we would be able to just directly customize colors which would've made mythic skins even better and would make battle pass a little more appealing, because the idea of a skin with multiple regions that you can color however you want would've been fucking amazing, however I understand that's probably really difficult to do on models (maybe idk)
HOW DID THAT CHILD GO FROM "GORILLA MAN" TO TELEMACHUS (are they reading the odyssey to her for a bedtime story???)
To.be fair with the first clip. Stuff like that really does work in low level play because everyone is so used to the just funneling down mid in a straight line that the moment someone takes another path or uses a different strat alot of players crumble and don't know how to handle it
I used to play on console and switched to PC awhile ago so my aim is awful on PC rn but I like to believe I have good game sense still but with my aim being so bad I'm still not in the best place mmr wise so I see people not know how to position well still.
Flats your happiness from low rank ow can become true with a magical procedure of lobotomy.
when the pve comes in, the game is gonna have a HUGE wave of new players. Not just for pve, but pvp too because they'll "just try it a lil", but they'll stay
You may be right about PvE, Flats, but I'm fully expecting them to be released in mission packs for $20 😌
Lmao imagine if when shown cass she was like “Jesse mcree” and he’s just like “NO PICK A NEW ONE”
12:11 let's be real here though, they STILL marketed it as Overwatch 2. Even just a ".0" added to it would've fixed it.
wow the ending tiktok foretold the future.
Ending segment sounded a little to shill-ey for me
That @fataliny_ tiktok had me molding! All the tanks had changes to accommodate 5v5 but outside of additional health / barriers majority of them had a significant reworks as well, a few of the supports did and half of the dps did... but ultimately none of that matters buff, nerfs and reworks should be done for balance not for the sake of "change". 5v5 and Push instead of 2cp means OW2 plays quiet different to OW1 (without straying from what OW is) and even so it was never the main point of OW2 to "change" multiplayer, it was mainly to bring in PvE to build the story and lore of OW (none of which I care about if I'm perfectly honest)
Shes right it is Oreesa. That's how the character says it, and that's close to how Yoruba people would pronounce it (orisha)
See the problem is walking/horseback riding through caelid is a phobia of mine, I’m scared of everything that’s there.