"My dear, from the first moment you stepped foot in my class I sensed that you did not possess the proper spirit for the noble art of divination. No, you see there? You are young in years but the heart that beats beneath your bosom is as shriveled as an old maid's, your soul as dry as the pages of the books to which you so desperately cleave." Great writing, delivered expertly!
I'm still sitting over here trying to figure out what in the world was Hermione's problem like if she can't see into the future, she can't see to the Future
@@vedadida8495 Hermione was so desperate to prove to herself that she was better/more than any other Mudblood, she was determined to learn EVERYTHING magic even if it wasn't in her heart..
@@vedadida8495 Hermione lacks a sense of fun and imagination, which is why she scorns things like divination. She relies heavily on knowledge that pre-exists, and uses it well, but lacks the ability to see beyond that at many times. That's why she's as "shriveled as an old maid" lol.
In the book (never shows in the films) Luna Lovegood gets on really well with Trelawney. Lunas mind is an inverse of Hermiones, it's based on spiritualness and imagination, not precise logic. It's quite obvious soneone with Hermione mind and persona would be inept at divination.
@@深渊-w5t Are you unable to understand basic English? She said her soul is dry which I gather meant her soul was dry.... and added it was dry like the pages of the books to which she desperately cleaves which meant it was dry like the pages of the books to which she desperately cleaves.... any clearer?
In the books, Trelawney is a bitch and knows herself that she's inconsiderate. She took what Hermione said as an attack and she attacked back despite being a teacher.
This scene is a important part of Hermiones character development; it was the very first time she ever deviated away from her stubbornness, by acknowledging (albeit arrogantly) that this is a subject she cannot do. She abandoned her stubborness more in the order of the phoenix, when she helped rebel against Umbridge. This is different to Percy Weasley, who was so stubborn he left his family in order to continue sucking up to Fudge (not shown in the films)
@@jaik923 Divination is an imprecise, illogical form of magic generally, no matter who teaches it. It's the antithesis of Hermiones character. Lunas free spirited mind is an inverse of Hermione, she got on well with Trelawney in the books. Hermione from the first and second books might well have blindly followed Umbridge. Remember how she tried to defend Lockhart even though he was clearly a fraud.
@@flyingjibberish oh interesting take. I always thought it wasn’t real because of how McGonagall and Dumbledore described it. But they too are very logical characters. I may need to revisit the books with this in mind.
@@jaik923 It's like star signs, horoscopes with mystic Meg etc. in the "muggle" world. Some people believe that sort of thing is real, others believe it's a load of BS. Not something that's really suitable to be taught in school, but hey there's crazier things in the megical world.
@@jaik923 I think in the books one of the centaurs ends up teaching divination and we know that they can consciously predict the future by reading the stars as opposed to the possessed prophet thing she has going on. The centaurs even predicted that Harry would die in the forbidden forest.
Lol between this and Snape calling her an insufferable know it all. This wasn't a good year for Hermione poor girl's exhausted with all these classes. But there's some amount of truth about what both of them said
Snape was mean by calling her insufferable know it all, but he has the right to get angry. Hermione spoke out of turn immediately after Snape's question, which is not allowed and her excitement of telling her knowledge made the other children lose their chance.
@@vedantsridhar8378 i think it was more of he was trying to protect harry by hinting it to him, and have him think on it for this instance. Obviously hermoine is more capable of figuring it out(lupin being a werewolf). But if harry was alone (which snape found him at night alone previously) he wanted to get that info across to him at least. If only harry picked it up, since snape was looking out for him in the first year as well🙄
‘You are young in years but the heart that beats beneath your bosom is as shriveled as an old maid's.’ Let’s admit it, these words would have offended everyone. 😅😅😅😅
ztslovebird Actually, the parallel I saw was Hermione once again being in a magical castle and storming off on Trelawney (when she runs out scared and all the objects are trying to get her to stay). lol In hindsight, maybe if Trelawney has offered her some tea, it would have calmed her and made her feel better and she would have stayed 😀😁
As a descendant of Belle and the Prince, Hermione inherited some of the Prince's former haughtiness and rudeness, which shows in her behavior toward Prof. Trelawney.
She speaks so quickly at first I heard "Your bosom is as shriveled as an old maid's" and was like WTF before I figured out she was talking about the heart beneath.
Basically to say that, when things can't always be explained by logic or be straightforward (much like a book), Hermione gets frustrated because she feels she will never have the answer. While I still love her as a character for her strong independence, intelligence and drive, I think she lacks the ability to accept other points of view and think laterally. She sees things like a book answer even when the instructions may not be right. For example, compare her copy of Advanced Potion Making and the one corrected by Severus - he actually researched the ingredients and methods in order to make it properly, and because she doesn't get the same result, she dismisses Snape's as incorrect, even when it gives Harry a perfect potion. She takes a long time to realise things can be much more complex or be a grey area.
@@alking7655 Makes me wonder if she's really as intelligent as she's consistently portrayed to be.....we all know that she's basically a younger J. K. Rowling, so of course she's considered to be bright in-universe (I mean, honestly, who would want to describe themselves in a negative manner?). However, in my opinion, true intelligence also includes being open-minded and creative and rebellious enough to think outside the box instead of being so close-minded, literal and unimaginative. If anything, Hermoine Granger has average intelligence (the highest possibility being slightly above average) combined with an endless ambition for perfection and never being less than number one. She is so spoiled with academic success that she hates it whenever she's outperformed/not able to do something perfectly at first try that it seriously irritates me. I get that perfectionism does this to you, yet this is no valid excuse for her behaviour in these situations.
@@elva136 Because she doesn't like it when she isn't good at something. Ravenclaws have a thirst for knowledge and enjoy learning about things they don't understand.
@@sarenarterius6058 @Saren Arterius No she lacks most qualities of a Ravenclaw. She is more Slytherin than she is Ravenclaw. And the biggest reason is in why she hunts for knowledge. A Ravenclaw does it out of simple curiosity, no other intentions whatsoever. Hermione studies for academic ambitions. That's why she never tries things out of the book in fear of being wrong. A Ravenclaw wouldn't care about making a mistake while trying something new. I am a Ravenclaw myself, and clearly she suits more in the Gryffindor tower (bravery is by far the kindest word for stupidity ;)
I really think Hermione needed to be called out by both Snape and Trelwaney. While she is very gifted and intelligent, she's far to prideful, stubborn and a desperate know-it-all. She needed to learn some humility. Because students like that hurt the classes ability to learn.
My dear, from the first moment you stepped foot in this comment section, I sensed that you did not possess the proper spirit for movie adaptations. No, you see there? You are young in years but the heart that beats beneath your bosom is as shrivelled as an old Rowling fanboy, your soul as dry as the pages of the books to which you so desperately cleave.
@@carnagewolf1 The way I see it: Those are different medium and shouldn't be compared the same way. The books are amazing and very detailed, you could not include EVERYTHING from one book in one full lengh movie. It would be boring, messy, It would not work the same because it's not the same format. The movies are fine IMO.
Just realised, her asking "have I said something" makes you wonder if she actually lapsed into a trance state, like she does when she makes the other prophecy.
I love how Hermione couldn't conceive of Divination having any merit, while she, herself, was creating temporal paradoxes with a Time-Turner that very year.
When Professor Trelawney says 'Broaden you minds' she's expressing that we have to be open minded which Hermione clearly was not and already made up her mind. It's possible for Hermione to succeed in her classes if only she puts her skepticism aside, i.e. She cannot fill her cup if it's already full.
I agree with you to a point, but rather than having patience and using this as a teachable moment, to help Hermione to view things differently (of her own accord), Trelawney unwittingly insults her in front of the whole class and as far as I can remember-does not apologize for it. To me this scene does a good job of illustrating the conflict and miscommunication that can occur between intuition and analytical reasoning. It saddens me really, because Hermione is in many ways the ultimate student, but negative experiences like these have the potential to turn students off from a subject for, potentially, the rest of their lives. Also, Trelawney’s obliviousness of the potential emotional impact of her comments suggests she is disconnected from the very students she is so passionately trying to teach.
It definitely does show that in her own way, Hermione can be close-minded about some things. Divination isn't a subject you can truly master if you're not a real Seer. Period. No books or text can really fix that, and Hermione believes what she reads in books because it's provable concept whereas Divination involves intuition.
I've never read the book, but in the film she seems to be in a kind of trance because she wonders later if she said something. Maybe by touching Hermione's hand she fell in a trance like with Harry when she made the 2nd prophecy (but smaller). After all, whatever she says about Hermione is right. That is why she became angry, because she knew in her that Trelawny was right.
She was saying that so anyone who is skeptical of her dodgey practice would be seen as "close-minded". Hermione was right about her all along. "She is gifted in the fortune teller’s tricks; she accurately reads Neville’s nervousness and suggestibility in his first class, and tells him he is about to break a cup, which he does. On other occasions, gullible students do her work for her. Professor Trelawney tells Lavender Brown that something she is dreading will happen to her on the sixteenth of October; when Lavender receives news on that day that her pet rabbit has died, she connects it instantly with the prediction. All of Hermione’s logic and good sense (Lavender was not dreading the death of the rabbit, which was very young; the rabbit did not die on the sixteenth, but the previous day) are lost: Lavender wants to believe her unhappiness was foretold. By the law of averages, Professor Trelawney’s rapid-fire predictions sometimes hit the mark, but most of the time she is full of hot air and self-importance." Rowling, J.K.. Short Stories from Hogwarts of Heroism, Hardship and Dangerous Hobbies (Kindle Single) (Pottermore Presents) (Kindle Locations 486-492). Pottermore. Kindle Edition. This is from the author herself, she was a fraud who only got 2 predictions right out of the millions she gave out, and only because she got some inherited occasional talent from someone who could actually predict shit.
I think Hermione was already open-mided, but being muggleborn she probably never understood the concept. This is similar to taking an art class: the views are subjective. Those tea leaves that they read in the first lesson were subjective: Ron didn't see the dog in Harry's teacup. Does that mean he wasn't open-minded enough? I can understand Hermione's frustration (and sarcastic answer for the crystal ball): give me a proven method and I'll excel in it after practice. Give me something that's subjective and I'll be damned if you tell me I don't possess the aptitude for the subject. Wingardium Leviosa, when done properly, will always levitate an object; reading tea leaves and gazing into a crystal ball will not give you the same results. Add that Trelawney essentially insults her (I mean, no matter how unskilled a student is in a subject, the ideal thing would be to do it in private and in a constructive manner), and I can't say I blame Hermione for walking out. In fact, Ron and Harry only stick through it by playing the class (i.e. writing fake diary stories and predicting fake scenarios).
In India, if you disrespect a teacher like Hermione did here, and throw any of the teacher's possessions, your parents will be summoned, you'd be yelled at and then either suspended or expelled.
Hermione's scowl while Trelawney has her hand is so darn pretty. Also, Trelawney only has her job due to Dumbledore not wanting her outside Hogwarts because Voldemort would want to finish hearing the prophecy.
People who blamed Hermione for this... First, she was open-minded about the subject, or else she wouldn't be there. It's the teacher she had problems with. Who btw, got no prophecy right other than the one about Harry for her whole life time. And to be honest, had she not made that prophecy, Harry wouldn't have been targeted and he wouldn't have been the 'chosen one' so it was a self-fulfilling prophecy. Secondly, what other reaction would you expect if a teacher insults you like that when you did nothing other than attempting a task in class. Instead of helping her or encouraging a student like a teacher should, she just said 'you are not good at it, also, you an old woman inside with a dry soul'.
WeiYinChan Even I don't like trelawney much,But she made 2 correct predictions. But yeah,they did so her worse in the movies,in the books,she is better.
DR. UJJAL Misra or did everything happened because of her prophecy? If that is true she didn't predicted anything, she just caused them. One key theme of the book is that you can choose your fate, Harry wouldn't have been targeted by Voldemort if she didn't say that prophecy.
WeiYinChan no,the theme of the book,if we go on that direction,is that you have a fate,but you can alter it.If she didn't tell the prophecy,Harry potter would not become orphan,but what is the guarantee? James and Lily potter still had angered voldemort by defeating him thrice. So he would still want to kill them. But James and lily would not have been forewarned,a traitor like peter would never have come out.Trelawney's prophecy was just the medium,it just fast forwarded things that would have happenned anyways.Imagine James and lily lived and harry became more like James (just the gryffindor equivalent of Malfoy) Ron and Hermione wouldn't be there for him,he wouldn't have real friends at the burrow,Harry Potter would not have been Harry Potter. Anyways,mate,I never said I blame hermione,trelawney mostly used to lie,but is she said the correct thing twice,you have got to give her the credit.
DR. UJJAL Misra I'm not trying to say that she definitely caused it, it's a question that is impossible to answer. I'm just saying that you can't be certain that she predicted it when her action of predicting an event is started the chain reaction that caused said event.
Love Emma Watson's sarcasm here. She does the line very straight faced and how i imagine Hermione (who is not naturally a comedian but is clever enough to get it) attempting sarcasm.
Lol the hilarious scene of sybill was when she was kicked out of Room of requirements by malfoy and predicts dramatically something which actually comes true The lightening struck tower
Girl Hermione got more than her palm read. She GOT READ. LMAO & then Prof Trelawney had the nerve to ask "have I said something?" Like ma'am you just went in on her, what do you mean???🤣🤣🤣
This scene not only legitimately made me laugh, but it also made me realize that I don’t actually like Hermione’s character all that much. She stubborn, and has the inability to think outside the box, which is probably why she could never grasp divination.
I've been thinking about it, and I thought in addition to why Hermione was always so sassy in divination, is because she literally has the power to reverse time in this movie. She can literally tell Trelawney off, say how stupid and ridiculous this class is, and just go back in time, and be as sweet as pie next time (of course, after studying a bit harder). It's a literal Groundhog Day scenario. Her words have no real consequence as long as she holds a flipping time-turner. Heck, why stop there, Hermione? Go up to Ron and tell him you love him, and go on a killing spree and start Avada-Kedavraing Draco and friends!
If memory serves right, the time turner is just time travel. So, she actually can't do that. If I recall correctly when she time travels with harry and they don't take the place of their past selves. So, if people see two Hermiones in the same place, they will know that she is abusing the time-turner or did something she wasn't supposed to do. Even the clips shown of her randomly appearing indicate that she is appearing out of nowhere and is not already present in the room. There is few moments where it shows time travel like that in the entirely of fiction. In fact on the fandom powerlisting the power you describing is Chronoskimming not Time Travel. Putting it simply, if you had Hermione's schedule you would be able to see her in two different classrooms at the same time.
interesting, maybe trelawney knew, possibly from the aura but also maybe she heard a rumor about it. I assume some other teachers knew what mcgonnagol had given her
No she said it because Hermione was being a bitch and having a bad attitude every time she came into her class constantly shitting on both the subject and her. She was no different from Draco in Hagrid's class.
I always thought she was under some dark spell, the same one that spoke through her when Harry came to see her. She snapped out of it the same way she did here. "Did I say something?"
i think that this is one of the many scenes that prove hermione is a gryffindor, not a ravenclaw. a ravenclaw wouldn't be brave enough to knock over a crystal ball of their divination professor and storm right on out with a huff, snatch back their own hand from the grasp of a professor reading their palm and scoff. the courageous hermione we all love.
In the chapter "The Second War Begins", Hermione is shown to have changed her mind about Divination and now believes it's more legitimate than she originally thought.
"She is gifted in the fortune teller’s tricks; she accurately reads Neville’s nervousness and suggestibility in his first class, and tells him he is about to break a cup, which he does. On other occasions, gullible students do her work for her. Professor Trelawney tells Lavender Brown that something she is dreading will happen to her on the sixteenth of October; when Lavender receives news on that day that her pet rabbit has died, she connects it instantly with the prediction. All of Hermione’s logic and good sense (Lavender was not dreading the death of the rabbit, which was very young; the rabbit did not die on the sixteenth, but the previous day) are lost: Lavender wants to believe her unhappiness was foretold. By the law of averages, Professor Trelawney’s rapid-fire predictions sometimes hit the mark, but most of the time she is full of hot air and self-importance." Rowling, J.K.. Short Stories from Hogwarts of Heroism, Hardship and Dangerous Hobbies (Kindle Single) (Pottermore Presents) (Kindle Locations 486-492). Pottermore. Kindle Edition. Hermione maybe unbearable but at least she's not a fraud
This made me think hermione was older than she lets on maybe it's magic but the words that she's says "her heart as shrivelled as a old maid's her soul being dry" maybe hermione used magic to keep herself young would explain her strangely high maturity level and intellect from day one considering she came from a Muggle family with no access to magic yet she knew spells and history and who Harry was but how could she when her family were dentists......... That's just a thought lol
Time Turner. She's what a couple dozen extra hours older than the other students. Would be pretty if Time Turner Abuse ended with sudden rapid aging till your naught but dust. Would serve her right trying to cheat to get ahead of everyone.
In both the movie and the book for this scene, in my opinion, Hermione was the first to initiate being a know-it-all towards Prof Trelawney and just can't accept there's something she's just not good at or just because its the first time she couldn't please a teacher with her book smarts. Although I would probably get offended too if Prof Trelawney bluntly said that about me.
Hermione was right about Trelawney tho. This is to show that even in a magical universe there are gullible people who believe in frauds like Trelawney, and would in turn think logical people who didn't give into the bullshit (Hermione) "close-minded". It's not that Hermione wasn't good at it, it's that she had a shit teacher. Because in case you missed that, all of the student in the class were confused and just making stuff up, following the example of their teacher. "She is gifted in the fortune teller’s tricks; she accurately reads Neville’s nervousness and suggestibility in his first class, and tells him he is about to break a cup, which he does. On other occasions, gullible students do her work for her. Professor Trelawney tells Lavender Brown that something she is dreading will happen to her on the sixteenth of October; when Lavender receives news on that day that her pet rabbit has died, she connects it instantly with the prediction. All of Hermione’s logic and good sense (Lavender was not dreading the death of the rabbit, which was very young; the rabbit did not die on the sixteenth, but the previous day) are lost: Lavender wants to believe her unhappiness was foretold. By the law of averages, Professor Trelawney’s rapid-fire predictions sometimes hit the mark, but most of the time she is full of hot air and self-importance." Rowling, J.K.. Short Stories from Hogwarts of Heroism, Hardship and Dangerous Hobbies (Kindle Single) (Pottermore Presents) (Kindle Locations 486-492). Pottermore. Kindle Edition. This is from the author herself, she was a fraud who only got 2 predictions right out of the millions she gave out, and only because she got some inherited occasional talent from someone who could actually predict shit. If Firenz (who actually have something to teach in Divination) was their teacher in third year, then Hermione wouldn't have quitted, even if she isn't good at it)
If Hermione can't possibly be good at divination, then why bother hiring a divination professor? Defeats the purpose of school to have a subject that can't be taught. Trelawney was just being mean. Does she *SERIOUSLY* have to say "You have a dry and shrivelled up soul." to a student who was just asking for pointers? That's some fucked up behavior on the teacher's part.
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"My dear, from the first moment you stepped foot in my class I sensed that you did not possess the proper spirit for the noble art of divination. No, you see there? You are young in years but the heart that beats beneath your bosom is as shriveled as an old maid's, your soul as dry as the pages of the books to which you so desperately cleave." Great writing, delivered expertly!
Yeah I agree. There are some exceptional actors in these movies
Oh, love it
Thank you so much, I could not understand
Vanessa Dias right! I’m so glad someone wrote it down cause I couldn’t find the subtitles anywhere
Thanks for putting this here!
Lets be honest here: Trelawney didn't just burn Herimone, she *incinerated* her.
I'm still sitting over here trying to figure out what in the world was Hermione's problem like if she can't see into the future, she can't see to the Future
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Hermione was so desperate to prove to herself that she was better/more than any other Mudblood, she was determined to learn EVERYTHING magic even if it wasn't in her heart..
@@vedadida8495 Hermione lacks a sense of fun and imagination, which is why she scorns things like divination. She relies heavily on knowledge that pre-exists, and uses it well, but lacks the ability to see beyond that at many times. That's why she's as "shriveled as an old maid" lol.
In the book (never shows in the films) Luna Lovegood gets on really well with Trelawney. Lunas mind is an inverse of Hermiones, it's based on spiritualness and imagination, not precise logic.
It's quite obvious soneone with Hermione mind and persona would be inept at divination.
Lol
"Your soouuul as dryyy as the pages of the books to which you se desperately cleave!"
Kathryn Cargill the hell does that even mean
It means that that her soul is basically dry like the pages of the books she clings to because she was the go by the book type of girl
@@深渊-w5t Are you unable to understand basic English? She said her soul is dry which I gather meant her soul was dry.... and added it was dry like the pages of the books to which she desperately cleaves which meant it was dry like the pages of the books to which she desperately cleaves.... any clearer?
@@深渊-w5t It means Hermione was too bookish and couldn't think in an abstract method required for Divination.
My favourite roasting 🤣🤣🤣
I love how Trelawney is completely oblivious to the fact she just roasted the fuck out of Hermione 😂
Maybe a little hint of Slytherin's ambition existed in Hermione after all.
A little? It's her main character trait. She's basically the Percy Weasley of her year.
She. Read. Her. 😳
Spiritually and verbally 🤣
Trelwaney is so loveable! She has no clue she insulted tf outta her! 😭
In the books, Trelawney is a bitch and knows herself that she's inconsiderate. She took what Hermione said as an attack and she attacked back despite being a teacher.
This scene is a important part of Hermiones character development; it was the very first time she ever deviated away from her stubbornness, by acknowledging (albeit arrogantly) that this is a subject she cannot do. She abandoned her stubborness more in the order of the phoenix, when she helped rebel against Umbridge.
This is different to Percy Weasley, who was so stubborn he left his family in order to continue sucking up to Fudge (not shown in the films)
But in the book, Trelawney’s class is rubbish. Dumbledore only hired her because she has made prophecies in the past while being unconscious.
@@jaik923 Divination is an imprecise, illogical form of magic generally, no matter who teaches it. It's the antithesis of Hermiones character. Lunas free spirited mind is an inverse of Hermione, she got on well with Trelawney in the books.
Hermione from the first and second books might well have blindly followed Umbridge. Remember how she tried to defend Lockhart even though he was clearly a fraud.
@@flyingjibberish oh interesting take. I always thought it wasn’t real because of how McGonagall and Dumbledore described it. But they too are very logical characters. I may need to revisit the books with this in mind.
@@jaik923 It's like star signs, horoscopes with mystic Meg etc. in the "muggle" world. Some people believe that sort of thing is real, others believe it's a load of BS.
Not something that's really suitable to be taught in school, but hey there's crazier things in the megical world.
@@jaik923 I think in the books one of the centaurs ends up teaching divination and we know that they can consciously predict the future by reading the stars as opposed to the possessed prophet thing she has going on. The centaurs even predicted that Harry would die in the forbidden forest.
Lol between this and Snape calling her an insufferable know it all. This wasn't a good year for Hermione poor girl's exhausted with all these classes. But there's some amount of truth about what both of them said
Was Hermione good with potions?
Snape was mean by calling her insufferable know it all, but he has the right to get angry. Hermione spoke out of turn immediately after Snape's question, which is not allowed and her excitement of telling her knowledge made the other children lose their chance.
@@arvinr.912 Yes. She got outstanding on her potion NEWT
@@vedantsridhar8378 i think it was more of he was trying to protect harry by hinting it to him, and have him think on it for this instance. Obviously hermoine is more capable of figuring it out(lupin being a werewolf). But if harry was alone (which snape found him at night alone previously) he wanted to get that info across to him at least. If only harry picked it up, since snape was looking out for him in the first year as well🙄
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‘You are young in years but the heart that beats beneath your bosom is as shriveled as an old maid's.’
Let’s admit it, these words would have offended everyone. 😅😅😅😅
“Have I said something?” Lmfaoooooo
How can she even see what hermione is when she can't even remember what she said?
pff
Sure hope Belle doesn't knock Mrs. Potts off a table like that.
hahaha
ztslovebird Actually, the parallel I saw was Hermione once again being in a magical castle and storming off on Trelawney (when she runs out scared and all the objects are trying to get her to stay). lol In hindsight, maybe if Trelawney has offered her some tea, it would have calmed her and made her feel better and she would have stayed 😀😁
Hermione treats Prof. Trelawney the same way her great-great grandfather the Prince used to treat Mrs. Potts and the other castle staff.
As a descendant of Belle and the Prince, Hermione inherited some of the Prince's former haughtiness and rudeness, which shows in her behavior toward Prof. Trelawney.
ztslovebird 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That was the most accurate divination she ever did. She read Hermione like a book.
covfefe Was this pun of yours intended? 😂 Read like a book? In case it was, amazing job!
She speaks so quickly at first I heard "Your bosom is as shriveled as an old maid's" and was like WTF before I figured out she was talking about the heart beneath.
basically the prophecy of a student leaving the class forever was correct.
"your soul as dry as the pages of the book"
Basically to say that, when things can't always be explained by logic or be straightforward (much like a book), Hermione gets frustrated because she feels she will never have the answer. While I still love her as a character for her strong independence, intelligence and drive, I think she lacks the ability to accept other points of view and think laterally. She sees things like a book answer even when the instructions may not be right.
For example, compare her copy of Advanced Potion Making and the one corrected by Severus - he actually researched the ingredients and methods in order to make it properly, and because she doesn't get the same result, she dismisses Snape's as incorrect, even when it gives Harry a perfect potion. She takes a long time to realise things can be much more complex or be a grey area.
@@alking7655 Makes me wonder if she's really as intelligent as she's consistently portrayed to be.....we all know that she's basically a younger J. K. Rowling, so of course she's considered to be bright in-universe (I mean, honestly, who would want to describe themselves in a negative manner?). However, in my opinion, true intelligence also includes being open-minded and creative and rebellious enough to think outside the box instead of being so close-minded, literal and unimaginative. If anything, Hermoine Granger has average intelligence (the highest possibility being slightly above average) combined with an endless ambition for perfection and never being less than number one. She is so spoiled with academic success that she hates it whenever she's outperformed/not able to do something perfectly at first try that it seriously irritates me. I get that perfectionism does this to you, yet this is no valid excuse for her behaviour in these situations.
LOL. Prof. Trelawney is AWESOME. And Hermione's backhand slap to the crystal ball is also hilarious.
She was like" I'm out of this place, I don't like her"
best insults of all time, no wonder hemione was done
hermione's sass is real in PoA
I always thought she was gonna kick the ball at the end
I was a bit let down. Emma Watson should have ignored the director and kicked it. I would have died laughing.
And this is why Hermione is not a Ravenclaw!
But how! Divination is not even a real subject!
@@elva136 Because she doesn't like it when she isn't good at something. Ravenclaws have a thirst for knowledge and enjoy learning about things they don't understand.
marika samogin Trelawney is a Ravenclaw
Hermione isn't a Ravenclaw because she wanted to be in Gryffindor. Also, Trelawney really is an old fraud 99% of the time.
@@sarenarterius6058 @Saren Arterius No she lacks most qualities of a Ravenclaw. She is more Slytherin than she is Ravenclaw. And the biggest reason is in why she hunts for knowledge. A Ravenclaw does it out of simple curiosity, no other intentions whatsoever. Hermione studies for academic ambitions. That's why she never tries things out of the book in fear of being wrong. A Ravenclaw wouldn't care about making a mistake while trying something new. I am a Ravenclaw myself, and clearly she suits more in the Gryffindor tower (bravery is by far the kindest word for stupidity ;)
If I did that I would have been kicked out of my school
Prof. T. keeping it real.
I love how Ron and Harry are just there falling asleep in the beginning lol that was me in HS 😂
I really think Hermione needed to be called out by both Snape and Trelwaney. While she is very gifted and intelligent, she's far to prideful, stubborn and a desperate know-it-all. She needed to learn some humility. Because students like that hurt the classes ability to learn.
lol what a blatant insensitive teacher 🤣
This scene gave me ASMR when Trelawney roasted Hermione.
“Have I said something?”
This was no where near as exciting as in the book, there was a lot more yelling there
Maxaa Do tell
i thought trelawneys lines were much more interesting and hilarious here than in the book tbh.
My dear, from the first moment you stepped foot in this comment section, I sensed that you did not possess the proper spirit for movie adaptations. No, you see there? You are young in years but the heart that beats beneath your bosom is as shrivelled as an old Rowling fanboy, your soul as dry as the pages of the books to which you so desperately cleave.
@@WetaMantis I've been reading the books right now and can say that the movies do some things a lot better. Love the comment though.
@@carnagewolf1 The way I see it: Those are different medium and shouldn't be compared the same way. The books are amazing and very detailed, you could not include EVERYTHING from one book in one full lengh movie. It would be boring, messy, It would not work the same because it's not the same format. The movies are fine IMO.
Oh shit Bad girl Hermione come through !
Hermione had a little bit of Slytherin in her
Hermione is like "do not touch my hand bitch"
And just knocks the crystal ball off like a boss😎
Cringe
Like a boss? Like a crybaby xd
She kinda roasted her LMFAO
Just realized from the book everyone thought Lupins’ boggart was a Divination crystal ball.
Yep you said something alright to make HERMIONE GRANGER leave class
Just realised, her asking "have I said something" makes you wonder if she actually lapsed into a trance state, like she does when she makes the other prophecy.
I love how Hermione couldn't conceive of Divination having any merit, while she, herself, was creating temporal paradoxes with a Time-Turner that very year.
such awesome actors in these movies. this lady is great
When Professor Trelawney says 'Broaden you minds' she's expressing that we have to be open minded which Hermione clearly was not and already made up her mind. It's possible for Hermione to succeed in her classes if only she puts her skepticism aside, i.e. She cannot fill her cup if it's already full.
I agree with you to a point, but rather than having patience and using this as a teachable moment, to help Hermione to view things differently (of her own accord), Trelawney unwittingly insults her in front of the whole class and as far as I can remember-does not apologize for it. To me this scene does a good job of illustrating the conflict and miscommunication that can occur between intuition and analytical reasoning. It saddens me really, because Hermione is in many ways the ultimate student, but negative experiences like these have the potential to turn students off from a subject for, potentially, the rest of their lives. Also, Trelawney’s obliviousness of the potential emotional impact of her comments suggests she is disconnected from the very students she is so passionately trying to teach.
It definitely does show that in her own way, Hermione can be close-minded about some things. Divination isn't a subject you can truly master if you're not a real Seer. Period. No books or text can really fix that, and Hermione believes what she reads in books because it's provable concept whereas Divination involves intuition.
I've never read the book, but in the film she seems to be in a kind of trance because she wonders later if she said something. Maybe by touching Hermione's hand she fell in a trance like with Harry when she made the 2nd prophecy (but smaller). After all, whatever she says about Hermione is right. That is why she became angry, because she knew in her that Trelawny was right.
She was saying that so anyone who is skeptical of her dodgey practice would be seen as "close-minded". Hermione was right about her all along.
"She is gifted in the fortune teller’s tricks; she accurately reads Neville’s nervousness and suggestibility in his first class, and tells him he is about to break a cup, which he does. On other occasions, gullible students do her work for her. Professor Trelawney tells Lavender Brown that something she is dreading will happen to her on the sixteenth of October; when Lavender receives news on that day that her pet rabbit has died, she connects it instantly with the prediction. All of Hermione’s logic and good sense (Lavender was not dreading the death of the rabbit, which was very young; the rabbit did not die on the sixteenth, but the previous day) are lost: Lavender wants to believe her unhappiness was foretold. By the law of averages, Professor Trelawney’s rapid-fire predictions sometimes hit the mark, but most of the time she is full of hot air and self-importance."
Rowling, J.K.. Short Stories from Hogwarts of Heroism, Hardship and Dangerous Hobbies (Kindle Single) (Pottermore Presents) (Kindle Locations 486-492). Pottermore. Kindle Edition.
This is from the author herself, she was a fraud who only got 2 predictions right out of the millions she gave out, and only because she got some inherited occasional talent from someone who could actually predict shit.
I think Hermione was already open-mided, but being muggleborn she probably never understood the concept. This is similar to taking an art class: the views are subjective. Those tea leaves that they read in the first lesson were subjective: Ron didn't see the dog in Harry's teacup. Does that mean he wasn't open-minded enough?
I can understand Hermione's frustration (and sarcastic answer for the crystal ball): give me a proven method and I'll excel in it after practice. Give me something that's subjective and I'll be damned if you tell me I don't possess the aptitude for the subject. Wingardium Leviosa, when done properly, will always levitate an object; reading tea leaves and gazing into a crystal ball will not give you the same results.
Add that Trelawney essentially insults her (I mean, no matter how unskilled a student is in a subject, the ideal thing would be to do it in private and in a constructive manner), and I can't say I blame Hermione for walking out. In fact, Ron and Harry only stick through it by playing the class (i.e. writing fake diary stories and predicting fake scenarios).
In India, if you disrespect a teacher like Hermione did here, and throw any of the teacher's possessions, your parents will be summoned, you'd be yelled at and then either suspended or expelled.
Some of those hogwarts teachers are passive towards students to the point of neglect
In Mexico you get a slap in the face. First from the teacher, then by your mom, then by your dad, and then by your mom again 😀
Yeah but they're in Scotland.
@@MTBR077 they are in England
@@asa0hcute310 hogwarts is located in the scottish highlands
I just love the professor's delivery in this part!
Great scene! One of my favorite passages from the whole series. Such great comic acting.
0:53 Hermione: Bitch.
lmfao!
Hermione's scowl while Trelawney has her hand is so darn pretty.
Also, Trelawney only has her job due to Dumbledore not wanting her outside Hogwarts because Voldemort would want to finish hearing the prophecy.
Saying Hermione Granger isn't perfect at something, is more hurtful than calling her mudblood 😂
One of my all time favourite lines in the series. 😆
People who blamed Hermione for this... First, she was open-minded about the subject, or else she wouldn't be there. It's the teacher she had problems with. Who btw, got no prophecy right other than the one about Harry for her whole life time. And to be honest, had she not made that prophecy, Harry wouldn't have been targeted and he wouldn't have been the 'chosen one' so it was a self-fulfilling prophecy. Secondly, what other reaction would you expect if a teacher insults you like that when you did nothing other than attempting a task in class. Instead of helping her or encouraging a student like a teacher should, she just said 'you are not good at it, also, you an old woman inside with a dry soul'.
Well stated. "Have I said something?" Well, yeah. Kind of.
WeiYinChan Even I don't like trelawney much,But she made 2 correct predictions. But yeah,they did so her worse in the movies,in the books,she is better.
DR. UJJAL Misra or did everything happened because of her prophecy? If that is true she didn't predicted anything, she just caused them. One key theme of the book is that you can choose your fate, Harry wouldn't have been targeted by Voldemort if she didn't say that prophecy.
WeiYinChan no,the theme of the book,if we go on that direction,is that you have a fate,but you can alter it.If she didn't tell the prophecy,Harry potter would not become orphan,but what is the guarantee? James and Lily potter still had angered voldemort by defeating him thrice. So he would still want to kill them. But James and lily would not have been forewarned,a traitor like peter would never have come out.Trelawney's prophecy was just the medium,it just fast forwarded things that would have happenned anyways.Imagine James and lily lived and harry became more like James (just the gryffindor equivalent of Malfoy) Ron and Hermione wouldn't be there for him,he wouldn't have real friends at the burrow,Harry Potter would not have been Harry Potter. Anyways,mate,I never said I blame hermione,trelawney mostly used to lie,but is she said the correct thing twice,you have got to give her the credit.
DR. UJJAL Misra I'm not trying to say that she definitely caused it, it's a question that is impossible to answer. I'm just saying that you can't be certain that she predicted it when her action of predicting an event is started the chain reaction that caused said event.
The first ASMR that i experienced
Lol Hermione a savage.
No, Trelawney fucking schooled her!
Trelawney burned her ego to the ground.
0:51 when she yeeted the globe off the table 😂
Love Emma Watson's sarcasm here. She does the line very straight faced and how i imagine Hermione (who is not naturally a comedian but is clever enough to get it) attempting sarcasm.
Professor Trelawney: boarded your mind
Me and Ron: zzzzz 😴😴😴
it's broaden your minds :)
Lol the hilarious scene of sybill was when she was kicked out of Room of requirements by malfoy and predicts dramatically something which actually comes true The lightening struck tower
Prof Trelawney: Hermione Watson your mind?
Hermione got owned!
Girl Hermione got more than her palm read. She GOT READ. LMAO & then Prof Trelawney had the nerve to ask "have I said something?" Like ma'am you just went in on her, what do you mean???🤣🤣🤣
It hurts cause it's true.
This scene not only legitimately made me laugh, but it also made me realize that I don’t actually like Hermione’s character all that much.
She stubborn, and has the inability to think outside the box, which is probably why she could never grasp divination.
Roasted by trelawney
I loved this one, the twist at the end was excellent.
0:50, cool cool cool Hermione
Who saw both Emma's in the live action Beauty and the Beast?
I did.
Me too. You can't have Emma Watson with Emma Thompson.
I've been thinking about it, and I thought in addition to why Hermione was always so sassy in divination, is because she literally has the power to reverse time in this movie.
She can literally tell Trelawney off, say how stupid and ridiculous this class is, and just go back in time, and be as sweet as pie next time (of course, after studying a bit harder). It's a literal Groundhog Day scenario. Her words have no real consequence as long as she holds a flipping time-turner.
Heck, why stop there, Hermione? Go up to Ron and tell him you love him, and go on a killing spree and start Avada-Kedavraing Draco and friends!
If memory serves right, the time turner is just time travel. So, she actually can't do that. If I recall correctly when she time travels with harry and they don't take the place of their past selves.
So, if people see two Hermiones in the same place, they will know that she is abusing the time-turner or did something she wasn't supposed to do.
Even the clips shown of her randomly appearing indicate that she is appearing out of nowhere and is not already present in the room. There is few moments where it shows time travel like that in the entirely of fiction. In fact on the fandom powerlisting the power you describing is Chronoskimming not Time Travel.
Putting it simply, if you had Hermione's schedule you would be able to see her in two different classrooms at the same time.
My favorite scene :) for all those fluffys out there.
NOOO!!! I needed Ron's line after this!!!😫
First Snape calls Hermione a know-it-all and takes 5 points from Gryffindor. Then Trelawney calls her out in the most passive-aggressive way
That's what make Hermione a Gryffindor, not a Ravenclaw.
"0:48 hermione face🤣🤣
"Hermione, did your parents teach you about respecting elderly people, didn't they ?"
haha both actors are named Emma in rl lyfe
gegen2magark and they share the same birthday too
@@EA-1992 seriously?!
@@EA-1992 No, they dont.
Valinka Spade Yes they do. Google it
Jared Ruff Yes 15th April 1990 (emma watson)
15th April 1959 (emma thompson)
I don't think this is an insult as much as a prediction that Hermoine was time traveling. "Old heart" ect ect.
I love this
That was a read....*sips tea*
I just love this scene .
She read her to FILTH!!!!!
I've never understood why Trelawney said something like that. Is it because hermione goes back in time and it somehow changes her fortune?
interesting, maybe trelawney knew, possibly from the aura but also maybe she heard a rumor about it. I assume some other teachers knew what mcgonnagol had given her
No she said it because Hermione was being a bitch and having a bad attitude every time she came into her class constantly shitting on both the subject and her. She was no different from Draco in Hagrid's class.
Probably because Trelawney is one of the few teachers at Hogwarts who doesn't kiss Hermione's ass wherever it goes.
I always thought she was under some dark spell, the same one that spoke through her when Harry came to see her. She snapped out of it the same way she did here. "Did I say something?"
She's a seer. She was being honest.
This is why Slytherin didn’t want muggle horns in Hogwarts lol
What makes this funnier is that My Immortal has their counterparts - B'loody Mary and Professor Sinister/Trevolry 'get along grate'.
i think that this is one of the many scenes that prove hermione is a gryffindor, not a ravenclaw. a ravenclaw wouldn't be brave enough to knock over a crystal ball of their divination professor and storm right on out with a huff, snatch back their own hand from the grasp of a professor reading their palm and scoff. the courageous hermione we all love.
What the fuck did she say! She already loved Ron!It's no fair to insult Hermione like this!
It's Nanny McPhee as a gypsie!
Hermione: The Grim... Possibly.
Trelawney: *she's not even trying*
Trelawny ate Hermione up😭💀
In the chapter "The Second War Begins", Hermione is shown to have changed her mind about Divination and now believes it's more legitimate than she originally thought.
I love Trelawney! Such a perfect put-down delivered to such an unbearable person.
"She is gifted in the fortune teller’s tricks; she accurately reads Neville’s nervousness and suggestibility in his first class, and tells him he is about to break a cup, which he does. On other occasions, gullible students do her work for her. Professor Trelawney tells Lavender Brown that something she is dreading will happen to her on the sixteenth of October; when Lavender receives news on that day that her pet rabbit has died, she connects it instantly with the prediction. All of Hermione’s logic and good sense (Lavender was not dreading the death of the rabbit, which was very young; the rabbit did not die on the sixteenth, but the previous day) are lost: Lavender wants to believe her unhappiness was foretold. By the law of averages, Professor Trelawney’s rapid-fire predictions sometimes hit the mark, but most of the time she is full of hot air and self-importance."
Rowling, J.K.. Short Stories from Hogwarts of Heroism, Hardship and Dangerous Hobbies (Kindle Single) (Pottermore Presents) (Kindle Locations 486-492). Pottermore. Kindle Edition.
Hermione maybe unbearable but at least she's not a fraud
Please try to keep your comments precise and not a wall of text copy-pasted from some book.
Are you being sarcastic? Because WeiYinChan's comment was pretty spot on.
@@thegoodfather1177 i think u meant concise?
This made me think hermione was older than she lets on maybe it's magic but the words that she's says "her heart as shrivelled as a old maid's her soul being dry" maybe hermione used magic to keep herself young would explain her strangely high maturity level and intellect from day one considering she came from a Muggle family with no access to magic yet she knew spells and history and who Harry was but how could she when her family were dentists......... That's just a thought lol
Time Turner. She's what a couple dozen extra hours older than the other students.
Would be pretty if Time Turner Abuse ended with sudden rapid aging till your naught but dust.
Would serve her right trying to cheat to get ahead of everyone.
anyone else here from october 2020? just me. well okay then.
Now I’m here
Lmao she burned Hermione at the stake
I love how she knocks it over LMAOOO
In both the movie and the book for this scene, in my opinion, Hermione was the first to initiate being a know-it-all towards Prof Trelawney and just can't accept there's something she's just not good at or just because its the first time she couldn't please a teacher with her book smarts. Although I would probably get offended too if Prof Trelawney bluntly said that about me.
Hermione was right about Trelawney tho.
This is to show that even in a magical universe there are gullible people who believe in frauds like Trelawney, and would in turn think logical people who didn't give into the bullshit (Hermione) "close-minded". It's not that Hermione wasn't good at it, it's that she had a shit teacher. Because in case you missed that, all of the student in the class were confused and just making stuff up, following the example of their teacher.
"She is gifted in the fortune teller’s tricks; she accurately reads Neville’s nervousness and suggestibility in his first class, and tells him he is about to break a cup, which he does. On other occasions, gullible students do her work for her. Professor Trelawney tells Lavender Brown that something she is dreading will happen to her on the sixteenth of October; when Lavender receives news on that day that her pet rabbit has died, she connects it instantly with the prediction. All of Hermione’s logic and good sense (Lavender was not dreading the death of the rabbit, which was very young; the rabbit did not die on the sixteenth, but the previous day) are lost: Lavender wants to believe her unhappiness was foretold. By the law of averages, Professor Trelawney’s rapid-fire predictions sometimes hit the mark, but most of the time she is full of hot air and self-importance."
Rowling, J.K.. Short Stories from Hogwarts of Heroism, Hardship and Dangerous Hobbies (Kindle Single) (Pottermore Presents) (Kindle Locations 486-492). Pottermore. Kindle Edition.
This is from the author herself, she was a fraud who only got 2 predictions right out of the millions she gave out, and only because she got some inherited occasional talent from someone who could actually predict shit. If Firenz (who actually have something to teach in Divination) was their teacher in third year, then Hermione wouldn't have quitted, even if she isn't good at it)
If Hermione can't possibly be good at divination, then why bother hiring a divination professor? Defeats the purpose of school to have a subject that can't be taught. Trelawney was just being mean. Does she *SERIOUSLY* have to say "You have a dry and shrivelled up soul." to a student who was just asking for pointers? That's some fucked up behavior on the teacher's part.
@@WeiYinChan you should read the book before telling so much!
Phana Loonly I literally quoted the actual author hun 🙄
Go Hermione!!
Mudblood abuse!
Wheww chile, hermoine is a piece of work lol
Have I said something...?
Howl at this scene 😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
I remember seeing this for the first time and feeling so out of pocket to see Hermione be mad over a lesson.
I wish Trelawney had read Dolores Umbridge's palm.
Love the creepy music towards the end
I tought she got her first period
As the series progresses, how would you say Hermione's attitude towards Prof. Trelawney changes?