It was how I was introduced to Star Wars when I was a kid. It's disappointing that they haven't been able to replicate something this cool for a while.
@@ItsPREPP98in both endings for the force unleashed 2, vader would survive. Light side ending: he was captured. Dark side: his apprentice killed the merek clone
You do you force repulse can't actually disintegrate right? In the book the starkiller clone uses the ability one time, it was against other failed clones and it partially liquefied them not disintegrated. The clone can use lighting to disintegrate, like other advanced lighting users.
In the battle with Vader in the first Force Unleashed game, he literally picks Vader up and chucks him around with the Force like it was nothing. The armor alone is heavy as hell, but against Vader's Force powers and getting thrown around was insane
Both wouldn't have any issue with StarKiller. Luke pulled a black hole with the force. Anakin was a product of the force itself, with unknown levels of potential.
@@geengobin3full potential anakin wouldn’t kill him he’d be strong enough to take the darkness out of him but full potential Vader would have red lightning like the son on mortis so he would fry him immediately
I actually have written what could be an epic showdown that would involve some firimilar faces such as Mace Windu and he trains Starkiller in Vaapad. Ahsoka makes an appearance as well has the fan favorite Quinlan Vos. Luke, Han, and Leia would make an appearance as well. Also and epic speeder chase through a river. I would also showcase Vader's red lightning technique and will show as to why he never wanted to use it again almost killing his daughter Leia with it.
The problem with non-canon stuff is it can't always be interesting or suspenseful. What are they gonna do in part three, tease another Vader or Palpatine death? Those two are protected characters with a very specific purpose.
Actually i'm glad you brought that up cause he is more powerful then both Vader and Palpatine and he's only 17 year's old which is something people tend to forget. In all reality by the time he hits 40 he would be beyond Grandmaster Luke actually he'll probably be on Valkorion's level on the verge of becoming a god!
His midichlorian count is identical to luke however due to his unique teaching of the force, he never let the darkness corrupt him or let morals get on his way, which allowed him to use dark side abilities as tools instead of a weapon unlike sidious. At fp he'd be above luke but below anakin however it wouldn't be an easy fight for anakin.
@@ProdBlessings To be honest he would be on full potential anakin level and if he keeps on studying and practicing both sides of the force he could possibly surpass even that the old republic showed that despite you're midichlorian count you can still grow in power and surpass others who are even higher then you.
@@uh9104 Technically he's not but in the grand scheme of thing's he is if he had lived a long life and mastered both side's of the force he would surpass both of them.
We also have to take into consideration that he was only 17 years old at the time. If he were to grow older, mastering his skills to an higher level, he could become even more dangerous
Galen was only in his late teens / early twenties during the first game, if he was actually given time to fully master his abilities, I reckon he’d give Luke a run for his money.
@@UI_Shaggy05Starkiller was stated to have the same potential as Luke which makes sense since Luke’s last name was originally starkiller not Skywalker and Starkiller is what Luke would be if he ever was trained by Vader at a very young age.
We should get him back in the next jedi game, if there is gonna be another. Obviously not nearly as powerful, but make him a secret inquisitor. He could still sorta be vaders secret.
ik it’s a long shot but i hope whenever battlefront 3 is made they add him to the heroes vs villains list. Although i believe disney made him non canon?
Pretty sure they've came out and said they're not making a 3rd, and yea he hasnt existed to them since they bought star wars. The way they could bring him back is making him vaders secret inquisitor, his answer to palpatine making them. But, knowing disney, they probably wont. Even if they did he couldnt be nearly as powerful as he once was.
Yeah many year's later when he was fully trained and a grown ass man, Starkiller is only a teenager who's not even at a hundred percent in training yet imagine the damage he would do when he's 40
@Artorion luke is 23 at the end of ROTJ. the event I mentioned happens somewhere in between the end of ROTJ and before The Battle of Jakku (5 ABY) Galen Marek was 20 born from 2 Jedi and trained by Vader. Luke was 19 trained with an aged out Obi Wan and an aged out Yoda and had Vader's blood. I believe the playing field is pretty level since Luke learned more on his own than with a physical master guiding him.
@@danielcantu1309 Yeahhhhhh but I'm not talking about how Luke came to power I'm talking about the power Starkiller will obviously have as an older man.
@chaosomega623 The young readers novel 'The Legends of Luke Skywalker' is canon. Each of the stories in the book are told from someone else's POV of Luke
The problem isn't just that he's a protagonist of his own story like Luke and Anakin, but he's also the protagonist of a video game. This means that when applied to the rest of the universe who have to look weaker than him, he's way too broken to ever be allowed into the canon properly.
If i remember correctly i seen somewhere that it said starkiller had the 3rd highest midichlorian count with luke and leia being tied for 2nd and anakin is first
If you have to compare it to the canon characters starkiller is off the charts. He could wipe the floor with Luke, Yoda, Palpatine, whoever you pin against him starkiller will destroy. Just the single fact that he was able to pull a fucking star destroyer to the ground marks the fact that he’s unmatched. In legends tho, where he belong, if someone was going to put him in a tier list where the tops would be in the S tier, he would be A with palpatine. Luke is beyond Mortis Gods level in legends, and yoda is a fucking menace
Sidious: Lord Vader, you can longer keep this apprentice of yours a secret. Show him to me immediatel... Why is that ship pointed towards the ground? *Starkiller Casually rips star destroyers out of low orbit*
Hes strong, i would put him maybe above Vader but not legends vader or vader with his full body. Him pulling down a star destroyer is impressive but i mean, Darth Bane literally pulled a moon out of orbit with the force.
I think 2 because he isn`t canon, and after episode 6 three there were some legends pieces which showed Luke in his prime (he was able to move black holes, ships and planets)
His natural connection to the force was noted to be equal or slightly superior to Sidious own also helped he was Human and Sidious has a general preference for Humans in Legends EU most of the time yeah.
Now THIS is Star Wars. All day. All night. Galen Marek and Starkiller are among my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe. I wouldn't trust Disney to bring him to live action, though.
I think the real reason why Starkiller is so powerful was that the gods of the force or the force itself wanted to conduct a Fail-Safe if Luke or Leia were to ever fail at stopping the emperor Darth Sidious or should I say Palpatine and for that I believe that Starkiller is possibly could have been the true Chosen One what do all of you think🤔❓️
When you reach a certain level of Force power, you are immune to certain Force abilities like Force Drain. And beside that ability, Nihilus wasn't a very skilled Sith Lord. So yeah, Starkiller, Sidious and Vader would beat Nihilus in a 1v1
He didn’t bring down the ISD, even the game creators said this, he just merely guided it. Idky but it irritates the hell out of me when I see or hear someone say that, only because it’s false. He never brought it down, it was already coming down, he just merely guided it so it wouldn’t hit them.
My favorite character in Star Wars and he’s very similar to Cole MacGrath from the infamous games and universe I wonder who’s packing more power between these two
The only reason I think Starkiller should be canon would only primarily be because of the dumpster fires that was the force awakens, last jedi, and rise of skywalker.
I really did much prefer the rebel alliance origin story with him being the catalyst. I was unsure of how I felt about the second game’s storyline, especially with it being inconclusive, but I really wish they would have stuck to some form of the first game’s storyline for the alliance’s beginnings.
In the era he existed, he was at the top. Going back a few hundred or thousand years to TOR, he would've probably held his own against well-versed knights but maybe falter against the Dark Lords. Might've rivalled the Grand Knights on the Light side perhaps.
Sidious never said starkiller could rival him. Yoda, Anakin, and Luke were the only people Sidious ever considered as real rivals with force power. Sidious was worried that he could help Vader overcome him. People love Starkiller, but the fact of the matter is that he was really just above average in midichlorians, he probably wasnt much higher than someone like Obi Wan. The force unleashed gameplay just did a good job of really showing how destructive force powers can be. He was trained from childhood to harness every ounce of his force power into pure destruction, practically ANY average+ midichlorian level person could do all those same things if they were trained the same way. If someone like Dooku, Windu, Yoda, or let alone a Skywalker had that same kind of training from that same age...? Good god it would be like they were a walking hurricane just tearing apart everying for miles around any time they wanted. Now yes, Starkiller had solid use of force lightning, but I think that was probably something Vader drilled into him from the start of his training since Vader himself couldnt use it properly and it put him at a massive disadvantage against Palpatine. But to say he had an "incredibly high midichlorian count" is a lie, and "what a dark side Luke could have been"... That's outright ridiculous. Legit you are one of the biggest sources of star wars misinformation.
I love that Starkiller was one of the only characters we saw that couldve been a true sith lord from around this time other than sidious. Every other dark side user was either much weaker or, like Vader, destroyed and unable to become truly powerful. But the fact that we saw that and he tirned to tthe light was a complete reversal of every other character we saw in star wars at the time. An extremely power sith that could've attained true power like Palpatine rejects it and chooses his friends. His attachments brought him to the light. Something the jedi and sith couldn't understand.
I think his abilities are good, but I think in the large list of great sith, he sits below Malgus. He, unlike Malgus, was chaotic and didn't control himself. Sure, Malgus never used the force so well, and Starkiller never had the chance to storm the Jedi temple. But I think Malgus had more control in power, so he could use it for more evil plans than Starkiller, only gaining power, from running away from his master
Vader would have likely had to use Dark Force Transfer on Galen to make him so powerful, and remember Vader needed Starkiller to kill Palpatine, so it would make sense for him to do so
I think alot of people don't know/remember is that every force user was downscaled in the new canon because everyone was just so stupidly powerful. It was the right move but i would still like to see him come back even if less powerful. But they need to do him justice.
The Star Wars game, Force Unleashed, was quite entertaining, but the character of Star Killer was arguably overpowered and didn't really deserve the immense power that was bestowed upon him. It appears that the developers simply aimed to create a game that would cater to extreme power fantasies, without considering the limitations that should have been placed on such a character. For instance, no matter how strong your force potential may be, you wouldn't be able to defeat the likes of Darth Vader, who was a product of the Force, or Palpatine, who had practically become the embodiment of the Dark side. According to the experience that the two Sith Lords had in various aspects, including combat experience and knowledge of every lightsaber form, it seems unlikely that Star Killer should have even stood a chance against them. Although some die-hard fans of Star Killer may disagree, the truth is that he was simply too overpowered for his own good.
Ultimately he was OP because the game allowed it. His sole purpose was to make you feel like the strongest sith warrior(and later Jedi ) that you could be as you ripped through wave after wave of enemies. I’d be fine if he stayed out of canon because the way Star Wars is being ran now I feel like they’d screw up in more ways than one.
starkiller is awesome but that doesn't mean videogame characters should translate 1:1 to canon. the only reason he was this powerful was gameplay purposes, if he was a tv show or a movie character things would be very different. we should take videogame abilities with a grain of salt, because if we don't videogame characters will either be grossly overpowered compared to movie characters or their games will be boring with the creators' creativity being limited by what realisticslly fits in the canon
It was even shown in the video, he was extensively trained in the dark side, Ray was just a peasant that instantly learned how to use the force and a lightsaber.
Starkiller defeated Vader when he was about 17-20 years old, and could rival Palpatine. So he was a teenager who defeated Vader and almost killed Palpatine alone against 2. Just having more medichlorians or being chosen one or son of chosen one not helping in a fight as Kenobi proved.
I think Starkiller's potential is close to Yoda's or Palpatine's one, but still below Skywalker's family. And if we are talking of actual power level, then it's on Obi Wan's, Mace Windu's, pre-fall Anakin's, Dooku's, oe Ahsoka's level.
The thing people forget is that in tge planned and scrapped force unleashed 3 vader and palpatine would have shown starkiller they were toying with him to make him think he was more powerful than them when he really wasnt. Vader was supposed to destroy him with relative ease in the 3rd game if it didnt get scrapped.
Well it was apparently canon that Vader held back against Galen in their final duel kinda like how he did with Luke, and his power matched Palpatines when Anakin could've become far more powerful than him so with that knowledge, I'd say his Force abilities were on par or slightly more powerful than Sidious while his fighting skills where probably on par with Anakin's or even Mace's
It was also canon that palpatine was playing around with starkiller Although vader see his Apprentice he holds back testing his strength tfu 1 book Palpatine is surprised to see starkillers potential and tests starkiller in match to see if he could be a better apprentice then vader tfu book
I'd say campared to the strongest force users id say hes rank in the middle. I might have to watch and remember how powerful other ones are but i know hes very powerful
It was kind of stupid to remove him from canon I get he was powerful, but this is a universe where a single sith lord was capable of taking on an entire army of jedi and another was able to bring down a moon Granted, those sith were pre prequel characters from the old republic so I can understand removing him from a time-period standpoint, but still, I would love to see him return somehow I've heard rumors of him returning in the Ahsoka show, but that seems unlikely
This Starkiller should never be canon. I do love the games. I'd like to see a canon Starkiller as a personal, secret project of Vader to assist him in killing Palpatine. Don't know what keeps Vader from upgrading his suit to something less vulnerable during a fight too, though.
So in terms of legend powerful, he was like maybe top 15. If you are talking cannon 100% the most powerful. He beat Vader and Palatine back to back and he basically had legnds OP power.
Let's be honest, starkiller really gave people a whole new way of seeing the force and saber combat and for that he will always be one of the greats
That's for damn sure
Yee and it makes me sad force is not that cool like in force unleashed
@@AdrianNatsu It could be that cool though which is the problem
It was how I was introduced to Star Wars when I was a kid. It's disappointing that they haven't been able to replicate something this cool for a while.
@ink66 agreed. Hurts more to know the actor himself is a huge star wars nerd & knows more about the franchise then anybody currently in charge.
Starkiller was so powerful they removed him from canon, need I say more?
Nope lol 😂
They removed him from Canon because he killed vader which makes a lot of sense why they got rid of him
@@ComissarKriegno that wasn't canon. In the canon ending, Vader was *captured* . There's a chance he killed everyone and escaped trial afterwards
@@ComissarKriegthat was in the dark side ending in the force unleashed 1. In the light side/canon ending (canon before disney) he died to palpatine
@@ItsPREPP98in both endings for the force unleashed 2, vader would survive. Light side ending: he was captured. Dark side: his apprentice killed the merek clone
POV people forgot how Vader tanked that force repulse that was literally destroying flesh and armor
The ps2 version you either replace vader or die wounding Palpatine
You do you force repulse can't actually disintegrate right? In the book the starkiller clone uses the ability one time, it was against other failed clones and it partially liquefied them not disintegrated. The clone can use lighting to disintegrate, like other advanced lighting users.
@@iambane7845It disentegrates them in the game
In the battle with Vader in the first Force Unleashed game, he literally picks Vader up and chucks him around with the Force like it was nothing. The armor alone is heavy as hell, but against Vader's Force powers and getting thrown around was insane
Considering how powerful he was in the Force, I wonder how he would fare against full-potential Anakin or grand-master Luke.
full potential anakin would still wipe the floor with him tbh since he’s made from the force itself
Both wouldn't have any issue with StarKiller.
Luke pulled a black hole with the force.
Anakin was a product of the force itself, with unknown levels of potential.
@@geengobin3full potential anakin wouldn’t kill him he’d be strong enough to take the darkness out of him but full potential Vader would have red lightning like the son on mortis so he would fry him immediately
No one was to beat a full potential Anakin. He would have been the most powerful jedi ever especially being he was born by the force itself
@@Toeso_Loso that makes absolutely 0 sense
Disney: Starkiller is not cannon.
Us fans: HE IS CANNON TO ME!
Nice 👏
Was he ever actually canon?
*canon*
He had better material to be canon than the nonsense Disney has so sloppily made to be canon. What a clown world we live in.
He was so powerful that the first order named their secret weapon after him😂
It’s too bad we never got a force unleashed 3, I would’ve love to see an ending to Galen Marek‘s story
I actually have written what could be an epic showdown that would involve some firimilar faces such as Mace Windu and he trains Starkiller in Vaapad. Ahsoka makes an appearance as well has the fan favorite Quinlan Vos. Luke, Han, and Leia would make an appearance as well. Also and epic speeder chase through a river. I would also showcase Vader's red lightning technique and will show as to why he never wanted to use it again almost killing his daughter Leia with it.
The problem with non-canon stuff is it can't always be interesting or suspenseful. What are they gonna do in part three, tease another Vader or Palpatine death? Those two are protected characters with a very specific purpose.
@@vleaky3430wasn’t the TFU canon before Disney because George Lucas himself worked on the plot?
@@cloke3076 it was canon before disney, it'd actually fit into canon pretty good but disney said nuh uh
Disney fucked it saying it would be too violent but releases Jedi survivor
Just imagine him at his prime. He’s got the potential to be in the top 5 most powerful force users easily.
Actually i'm glad you brought that up cause he is more powerful then both Vader and Palpatine and he's only 17 year's old which is something people tend to forget. In all reality by the time he hits 40 he would be beyond Grandmaster Luke actually he'll probably be on Valkorion's level on the verge of becoming a god!
His midichlorian count is identical to luke however due to his unique teaching of the force, he never let the darkness corrupt him or let morals get on his way, which allowed him to use dark side abilities as tools instead of a weapon unlike sidious. At fp he'd be above luke but below anakin however it wouldn't be an easy fight for anakin.
@@ProdBlessings To be honest he would be on full potential anakin level and if he keeps on studying and practicing both sides of the force he could possibly surpass even that the old republic showed that despite you're midichlorian count you can still grow in power and surpass others who are even higher then you.
@@ArtorionI know this is old but he isn’t more powerful than papaltone or vader. Vader was holding back against him
@@uh9104 Technically he's not but in the grand scheme of thing's he is if he had lived a long life and mastered both side's of the force he would surpass both of them.
We also have to take into consideration that he was only 17 years old at the time. If he were to grow older, mastering his skills to an higher level, he could become even more dangerous
Yeah he would be insane as an adult
He was like 19/20
@@donthemailmanglitches6674 Nope he was 17
Meanwhile: Legends Luke moves a black hole with the force
There's always that one person on a starkiller video 😂
Galen was only in his late teens / early twenties during the first game, if he was actually given time to fully master his abilities, I reckon he’d give Luke a run for his money.
@@archiederham2103 Against full potential Luke?! I think not!
@@UI_Shaggy05Starkiller was stated to have the same potential as Luke which makes sense since Luke’s last name was originally starkiller not Skywalker and Starkiller is what Luke would be if he ever was trained by Vader at a very young age.
Darth Nihilus just over here like 😳 after eating planets cause his tummy hurt
We should get him back in the next jedi game, if there is gonna be another. Obviously not nearly as powerful, but make him a secret inquisitor. He could still sorta be vaders secret.
ik it’s a long shot but i hope whenever battlefront 3 is made they add him to the heroes vs villains list. Although i believe disney made him non canon?
Pretty sure they've came out and said they're not making a 3rd, and yea he hasnt existed to them since they bought star wars. The way they could bring him back is making him vaders secret inquisitor, his answer to palpatine making them. But, knowing disney, they probably wont. Even if they did he couldnt be nearly as powerful as he once was.
This man is Anakin Skywalker if he never got injured and reached his full potential
That would be Darth Caedus
He's my favorite character
In Legends of Luke Skywalker, Luke brings down an entire fleet of Star Destroyers
Yeah many year's later when he was fully trained and a grown ass man, Starkiller is only a teenager who's not even at a hundred percent in training yet imagine the damage he would do when he's 40
@Artorion luke is 23 at the end of ROTJ. the event I mentioned happens somewhere in between the end of ROTJ and before The Battle of Jakku (5 ABY) Galen Marek was 20 born from 2 Jedi and trained by Vader. Luke was 19 trained with an aged out Obi Wan and an aged out Yoda and had Vader's blood. I believe the playing field is pretty level since Luke learned more on his own than with a physical master guiding him.
@@danielcantu1309 Yeahhhhhh but I'm not talking about how Luke came to power I'm talking about the power Starkiller will obviously have as an older man.
@@danielcantu1309Battle Of Jakku? Isn't that from Canon? I thought yall were talking bout Legends here?
@chaosomega623 The young readers novel 'The Legends of Luke Skywalker' is canon. Each of the stories in the book are told from someone else's POV of Luke
I don’t know, but what I do know is I want to see Galen and Reven fight
Hey, no need for them to battle, we could just watch them both body Cal Kestis 😭😭😭
@@thegravewalker7645 I loved the video somebody made about Galen trying to cheer up cal after comparing to eachother
Isn't starkiller's midichlorian count 22,000, while palpatine's is 20,000?
Anakin had 20k medichlorian.
He was so powerful full that he had a destroyer named after him
I always saw starkiller as showing us what happens when force users don't hold back.
He'd definitely be the strongest if he wasn't sharing a continuity with Legends Luke.
You know, now that I think about it, they could reintroduce Star Killer into the Star Wars jedi survivor and fallen order universe.
The problem isn't just that he's a protagonist of his own story like Luke and Anakin, but he's also the protagonist of a video game. This means that when applied to the rest of the universe who have to look weaker than him, he's way too broken to ever be allowed into the canon properly.
If i remember correctly i seen somewhere that it said starkiller had the 3rd highest midichlorian count with luke and leia being tied for 2nd and anakin is first
You can still play with him in Star Wars Galaxy of Heros, greatest app game there is for Star Wars
If you have to compare it to the canon characters starkiller is off the charts. He could wipe the floor with Luke, Yoda, Palpatine, whoever you pin against him starkiller will destroy. Just the single fact that he was able to pull a fucking star destroyer to the ground marks the fact that he’s unmatched. In legends tho, where he belong, if someone was going to put him in a tier list where the tops would be in the S tier, he would be A with palpatine. Luke is beyond Mortis Gods level in legends, and yoda is a fucking menace
He is so powerful, Disney was scared of him. He is Top 7 most powerful Sith/Jedi
Sidious: Lord Vader, you can longer keep this apprentice of yours a secret. Show him to me immediatel...
Why is that ship pointed towards the ground?
*Starkiller Casually rips star destroyers out of low orbit*
I'd rather Disney not ruin the memory of Starkiller.
Hes strong, i would put him maybe above Vader but not legends vader or vader with his full body. Him pulling down a star destroyer is impressive but i mean, Darth Bane literally pulled a moon out of orbit with the force.
They just show how anakin looks in full potential
I think 2 because he isn`t canon, and after episode 6 three there were some legends pieces which showed Luke in his prime (he was able to move black holes, ships and planets)
His natural connection to the force was noted to be equal or slightly superior to Sidious own also helped he was Human and Sidious has a general preference for Humans in Legends EU most of the time yeah.
Imagine battlefront 3 with starkiller storyline
I wish Disney would make something about Starkiller, he's so cool
He did not bring down a Star Destroyer , he deflected the path of one that was already falling .
If he was in a future movie which would probably not happen, he would destroy a whole army with little effort
He was so powerful they named the third death star after him
Bro was so powerful he got banned from canon
Now THIS is Star Wars. All day. All night. Galen Marek and Starkiller are among my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe. I wouldn't trust Disney to bring him to live action, though.
I think the real reason why Starkiller is so powerful was that the gods of the force or the force itself wanted to conduct a Fail-Safe if Luke or Leia were to ever fail at stopping the emperor Darth Sidious or should I say Palpatine and for that I believe that Starkiller is possibly could have been the true Chosen One what do all of you think🤔❓️
I believe Force could have numerous chosen ones.
Could he face darth nihlus tho?
When you reach a certain level of Force power, you are immune to certain Force abilities like Force Drain. And beside that ability, Nihilus wasn't a very skilled Sith Lord. So yeah, Starkiller, Sidious and Vader would beat Nihilus in a 1v1
Bro, Darth Nihilus isnt even that strong, the only thing he can do is force drain. Hes essentially a big stomach in the force thats always hungry.
@@cherrypoptart2001didn’t he bring up an entire fleet of ships that were destroyed using the force
Nihilus starts off very strong but overtime Nihilus weakens as he needs more energy and drain from a planet.
Naw pulling a Star destroyer while In orbit is crazy, even Vader would shit his pants
He didn’t bring down the ISD, even the game creators said this, he just merely guided it. Idky but it irritates the hell out of me when I see or hear someone say that, only because it’s false. He never brought it down, it was already coming down, he just merely guided it so it wouldn’t hit them.
My favorite character in Star Wars and he’s very similar to Cole MacGrath from the infamous games and universe I wonder who’s packing more power between these two
And people still think he should be canon
He Should Be Canon In Legends Comics.
@@user-dd7hv2sx5bhe shouldn't lol, if you played the ps2 version you would see why. He either replaced darth vader or wounded Palpatine.
No thanks. I don't want him part of that retarded lore.
The only reason I think Starkiller should be canon would only primarily be because of the dumpster fires that was the force awakens, last jedi, and rise of skywalker.
@@T4ilorm4de Or he comes from a different timeline.
I really did much prefer the rebel alliance origin story with him being the catalyst. I was unsure of how I felt about the second game’s storyline, especially with it being inconclusive, but I really wish they would have stuck to some form of the first game’s storyline for the alliance’s beginnings.
In the era he existed, he was at the top. Going back a few hundred or thousand years to TOR, he would've probably held his own against well-versed knights but maybe falter against the Dark Lords. Might've rivalled the Grand Knights on the Light side perhaps.
I also think that KotOR and TOR Jedi and Sith are head and shoulders above Cinematic Universe characters in terms of power.
The strongest force wielder in all of starwars
Sidious never said starkiller could rival him. Yoda, Anakin, and Luke were the only people Sidious ever considered as real rivals with force power. Sidious was worried that he could help Vader overcome him.
People love Starkiller, but the fact of the matter is that he was really just above average in midichlorians, he probably wasnt much higher than someone like Obi Wan. The force unleashed gameplay just did a good job of really showing how destructive force powers can be.
He was trained from childhood to harness every ounce of his force power into pure destruction, practically ANY average+ midichlorian level person could do all those same things if they were trained the same way. If someone like Dooku, Windu, Yoda, or let alone a Skywalker had that same kind of training from that same age...? Good god it would be like they were a walking hurricane just tearing apart everying for miles around any time they wanted.
Now yes, Starkiller had solid use of force lightning, but I think that was probably something Vader drilled into him from the start of his training since Vader himself couldnt use it properly and it put him at a massive disadvantage against Palpatine.
But to say he had an "incredibly high midichlorian count" is a lie, and "what a dark side Luke could have been"... That's outright ridiculous. Legit you are one of the biggest sources of star wars misinformation.
Never made sense how strong he was
I love that Starkiller was one of the only characters we saw that couldve been a true sith lord from around this time other than sidious. Every other dark side user was either much weaker or, like Vader, destroyed and unable to become truly powerful. But the fact that we saw that and he tirned to tthe light was a complete reversal of every other character we saw in star wars at the time. An extremely power sith that could've attained true power like Palpatine rejects it and chooses his friends. His attachments brought him to the light. Something the jedi and sith couldn't understand.
No wonder mike was so powerful in all these videos, he can casually run the ones with goku in base and super form w vid tho🤣.
I think his abilities are good, but I think in the large list of great sith, he sits below Malgus. He, unlike Malgus, was chaotic and didn't control himself. Sure, Malgus never used the force so well, and Starkiller never had the chance to storm the Jedi temple. But I think Malgus had more control in power, so he could use it for more evil plans than Starkiller, only gaining power, from running away from his master
Almost as strong as Anakin could have been if he didn’t lose his limbs
Vader would have likely had to use Dark Force Transfer on Galen to make him so powerful, and remember Vader needed Starkiller to kill Palpatine, so it would make sense for him to do so
He's number 1
Dide the rebels use starkiller family's sign and make ot the mark for the rebellion?
I think alot of people don't know/remember is that every force user was downscaled in the new canon because everyone was just so stupidly powerful.
It was the right move but i would still like to see him come back even if less powerful. But they need to do him justice.
I think besides people not seen on tv it should go Luke, starkiller, Anakin, palpatine, Yoda, mace windo, count duku, obiwan, and lea.
Darth nihilus, consuming planets with the force:
The Star Wars game, Force Unleashed, was quite entertaining, but the character of Star Killer was arguably overpowered and didn't really deserve the immense power that was bestowed upon him. It appears that the developers simply aimed to create a game that would cater to extreme power fantasies, without considering the limitations that should have been placed on such a character. For instance, no matter how strong your force potential may be, you wouldn't be able to defeat the likes of Darth Vader, who was a product of the Force, or Palpatine, who had practically become the embodiment of the Dark side.
According to the experience that the two Sith Lords had in various aspects, including combat experience and knowledge of every lightsaber form, it seems unlikely that Star Killer should have even stood a chance against them. Although some die-hard fans of Star Killer may disagree, the truth is that he was simply too overpowered for his own good.
Ultimately he was OP because the game allowed it. His sole purpose was to make you feel like the strongest sith warrior(and later Jedi ) that you could be as you ripped through wave after wave of enemies. I’d be fine if he stayed out of canon because the way Star Wars is being ran now I feel like they’d screw up in more ways than one.
imagine him and exar kun fighting..crazy
There is so much good reason to why starkiller isnt cannon. and i resect that.
Ya know with the world between worlds thing I really don't see why it can't all fit together
Just remember, Anakin was literally MADE by the force itself.
He is easily top 3
People say “I hate starkiller because he’s so damn over powered”. Yeah. I bet you played his fucking games though didn’t you?.
He was 17 btw CRAZY
He ranks mo betta den masta yoda!
He's there, right below full potential Anakin
starkiller is awesome but that doesn't mean videogame characters should translate 1:1 to canon.
the only reason he was this powerful was gameplay purposes, if he was a tv show or a movie character things would be very different.
we should take videogame abilities with a grain of salt, because if we don't videogame characters will either be grossly overpowered compared to movie characters or their games will be boring with the creators' creativity being limited by what realisticslly fits in the canon
We never get to see starkillers full potential most likely he would be the most powerful force user in legends if ee ever got a 3rd game
i’d like to see him fight legends luke
The Star destroyer was already falling, he just redirected it
Be basically bodies everyone
Probably for the best this guy wasnt canon
Cuz holy shit he was a menace 😂
I wanna see starkiller vs Darth Bane
Everyone's favorite Gary Stu 😂
nope he is a well written character unlike Rey
@@chadbrad8100 both are annoying almost equally imo
It was even shown in the video, he was extensively trained in the dark side, Ray was just a peasant that instantly learned how to use the force and a lightsaber.
@@thegravewalker7645 never cared for either tbh 🤷
Starkiller is definitely around Obi-Wan's Level, and if he reached his full potential he could Rival Palpatine.
Starkiller is the strongest of all! He was so strong they cloned him. So that says a lot!
Starkiller defeated Vader when he was about 17-20 years old, and could rival Palpatine. So he was a teenager who defeated Vader and almost killed Palpatine alone against 2.
Just having more medichlorians or being chosen one or son of chosen one not helping in a fight as Kenobi proved.
I think Starkiller's potential is close to Yoda's or Palpatine's one, but still below Skywalker's family. And if we are talking of actual power level, then it's on Obi Wan's, Mace Windu's, pre-fall Anakin's, Dooku's, oe Ahsoka's level.
Someone never played the games.
The thing people forget is that in tge planned and scrapped force unleashed 3 vader and palpatine would have shown starkiller they were toying with him to make him think he was more powerful than them when he really wasnt. Vader was supposed to destroy him with relative ease in the 3rd game if it didnt get scrapped.
It’s obvious that he’s one of the strongest probably #1 on the most powerful Jedi 👍
starkillers should get an oscar. Who agrees? 👇
Oscar goes to actors for their performance. Not to characters.
If you guys wanna play hos orgin play star wars the force unleashed
Well it was apparently canon that Vader held back against Galen in their final duel kinda like how he did with Luke, and his power matched Palpatines when Anakin could've become far more powerful than him so with that knowledge, I'd say his Force abilities were on par or slightly more powerful than Sidious while his fighting skills where probably on par with Anakin's or even Mace's
It was also canon that palpatine was playing around with starkiller
Although vader see his Apprentice he holds back testing his strength tfu 1 book
Palpatine is surprised to see starkillers potential and tests starkiller in match to see if he could be a better apprentice then vader tfu book
He didn't hold back, the book literally says that every strike vader used was meant to deliver nothing less than a killing blow
I'd say campared to the strongest force users id say hes rank in the middle. I might have to watch and remember how powerful other ones are but i know hes very powerful
He in top 3 legends
It was kind of stupid to remove him from canon
I get he was powerful, but this is a universe where a single sith lord was capable of taking on an entire army of jedi and another was able to bring down a moon
Granted, those sith were pre prequel characters from the old republic so I can understand removing him from a time-period standpoint, but still, I would love to see him return somehow
I've heard rumors of him returning in the Ahsoka show, but that seems unlikely
I have to say he’s second under legends Luke
He is a Grand master sith
asura vs this guy 💀
This Starkiller should never be canon. I do love the games. I'd like to see a canon Starkiller as a personal, secret project of Vader to assist him in killing Palpatine. Don't know what keeps Vader from upgrading his suit to something less vulnerable during a fight too, though.
I wish they bring back at least the games
is there deeper lore on how strong he was?
So in terms of legend powerful, he was like maybe top 15. If you are talking cannon 100% the most powerful. He beat Vader and Palatine back to back and he basically had legnds OP power.
He's as powerful as any given High Republic era Jedi.
Why does the music sound like battlefield 1
He is the most to 2nd most powerful force user in starwars