Why Starkiller's Sith Transformation is WAY Worse Than You Realize - Star Wars Explained
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In that alternate ending with Starkiller, that transformation is truly horrific. Sidious was the living embodiment of evil.
I can think of a few characters who are tied for the title
@@darthmemewalker2807 The son is true embodiment of the darkside Abaloth is the embodiment of pure Chaos
@@darthmemewalker2807side note you ever wonder what would happen if A really op darksideer got decapitated could he or she survive using only the darkside 🤔
@@darthmemewalker2807Valkorian comes to mind
@@shadowslayer2929There was one who did exactly that in Legends. The then-Sith Emperor respected him so much that he took him on as an advisor.
Starkiller: "I could have been...you?"
Darth Starkiller: "In an alternate timeline, yes."
Starkiller: l now know what I should not be
Darth Starkiller: A wise choice, however I must defeat you, I am sorry
@@Eric6761Starkiller: I Know…
@@Jaetistic *both igniting lightsabers,a reality breaking duel begins*
At the very end of the fight:
Evil starkiller: *You can never escape me...*
This whole comment section is FIRE!! This is peek writing
Sith Stalkers are the stuff of Jedi Nightmares, they are horrifically cool.
Sith Nightmares too, you are in perpetual pain as the armor is GRAFTED TO YOUR FLESH AND BONE.
Was what ahsoka ran into in the last tales of the jedi a sith stalker because I noticed something VERY VERYYYY different about that sith character comparably to the regular inquisitors.
@hippytrippyjonboy828 no, that was a regular inquistor. He was the 6th brother.
She also faces another inquistor named Marrok in Ashoka
They remind me of a unit in the Warhammer 40k game. It's a soldier with immense power put through so many painful drugs and cybernetics, and then put in permafrost until ready to be deployed in the battlefield. These units are basically psychic nukes
@@madamastersgaming Eversor Assassin, ah such high octane nightmare fuel.
What I think is a nice detail is the way he is carrying the hilt of every Jedi/Sith you kill throughout the entirety of TFU1, a true showing of his power no less than how Grevious would parade his trophies of his killings
Really really want a TFU remake/remaster
Man I’d LOVE a remaster
They should remaster the PS2 version
Grievous had a trophy room and had to pick which lightsabers to carry. But yes same thing.
Not just a remaster, but I want a remake. Something to make travel easier. Sprint or something.
Finding the Holocrons was such a pain
@@holyelephantmg8838 you have to order the game guide
It's not just in a vision, there's an entire DLC where you play as Sithstalker Starkiller, armor and all.
with two different variants as well
It is a really cool outfit though
A really interesting detail is after you beat Darth Starkiller, Galen sees his arm get replaced by a Sith Stalker claw and hears his alternate self say "You can never escape me."
He was really fucked, his breathing feels like hes constantly getting air to his lung uncontrollably and he's struggling to exhale, ironically unlike hia former master who struggled to inhale.
An interesting detail about starkillers breathing is that it’s Vader’s but reversed
@@lupusdensofferrem1772 even the suit if you think about it,with Starkiller remaining Nimble and with the ability to use force lightning unlike Vader.
I dont think he had lungs
@@t.b.s-thebestsquadron4649 one of his skins shows all of his cybernetics, showing that he still has (at least partially) organic lungs
That final needle to Starkiller… you never forget that.
Yup
As someone who has a phobia of needles….that one scene scarred me as a child.
@@MatthewSmith-ob6zlgoku!? Is it really you!?
@@DaForgottenGentleman Uh….yes
Scary enough there are needles that go through the eye to get to the Brain
The surgery Starkiller went through in that alternate ending was even more brutal than Vader's but I also like how the Sith stalker is kind of like in a way a mixture of both Darth Vader and General Grievous it kind of makes you wonder why city has never put Vader in a Sith stalker suit and I and I think it's because of the burns he suffered from
Calling Sidious "city" 😭
It's because Sidius still feared the power of Vader. Turning him into a stalker likely would have made him stronger not weaker
He would be far too much of a threat. The rage, hate and power, without a failsafe.. not wise
Honestly I thought the “sith stalker” thing was just a skin for Starkiller from Force Unleashed. Didn’t know that the stalker’s were a thing all their own. Knowing what I know now makes the sith more terrifying.
Tbh it makes you wonder how sadistic a creature the original sith was to conjure up the idea and finally achieve the first stalker... they would even make Palpatine shudder I think....
Honestly death would of been a kinder fate for Starkiller but the empire let him live to find someone to replace Vader. I suspect he would be offed once Luke was fully turned to dark side and trained.
Rule of 2, my friend. If Vader proved more powerful than Starkiller (which in Legends, it's kinda hinted that there was no-one stronger than Starkliller). I think that's why they killed him off, and made him the inspiration for the rebellion. You can't have a Sith that strong and just magic wand it away that Vader somehow became stronger than Galen. In Legends (which, the, "Force Unleashed," games are a part of), Galen goes up against Vader, and pretty much stomps a mudhole in Vader's ass.
@@WraithHeart in the dlc for the bad ending he found Luke and got him to turn to the dark side to save his friends. After that it’s implied he started training Luke in the dark side. The rule of two will come in play where Luke will probably have to kill him eventually when the emperor will be pleased to have found a replacement.
This is WHY we need a proper ending to the Starkiller an Juno story.. One thing we can only speculate on is just how strong the current Cannonical Galen coulda or woulda potentially became had he reached the Master to Luke Level almost Grandmaster Level Jedi having FINALLY caught up Jedi training wise..
He'd made one hell of a Post Empire version of Mace Windu to Luke's being basically the Yoda after Yoda..an if hed stayed to fight in the Galactic Civil War.... alongside others like Kal not just Asoka on an off...together theyd probably been the bane of even Palpatines existence.. we saw how much a headache they usually gave the inquisition or Vader or similar tier Imperials in that hey day
I was aware of the Sith Stalker through the first Force Unleashed game as it was my fate the first time I played the game and chose to battle Vader instead of Sidious. I saw him and I was like, "F---! Are you kidding me?!? He's so bad@$$ and yet this is a terrible fate!" The design is cool in my opinion, but the process is something I would only wish on my Army leadership in Fort Wainwright, Alaska. 😅 It also reminds me of the final fate of the Toxo-Vipers from G.I. Joe. If they stayed in that division for too long, they'd become Toxo-Zombies.
I didn’t know I could even fight Vader until I watched someone do it 10 years after I first played the game.
@@mj3541 Really? Wow. I guess I got impatient because as soon as I finished my first playthrough, I played it again so I could try & find more goodies (color crystals, holocrons, etc.). At the end I saw them both standing there and I thought, "lemme try and fight Sidious." And it let me do it. When I saw THAT ending, it made more sense to me in the lore.
Yes Star Killers Stalker Armor is brutal.
Brutal and badass
Still my favorite armor, wear on my playthrough of all forxe unleashed games haha@darylsdesigns6679
This is some 40k levels of dark.
Lord Starkiller was a total beast.
Would love to see a movie (at the very least a fan film) set in that alternate timeline
Just imagine if instead of being the student or pupil under Vader as a child Galen/Starkiller the original not the clone was trained directly under Sidious how much more powerful and deadly he would be yeah.
Eh maybe but you have to realize if was trained by Dark Side Anakin he’d likely be more powerful than that. (Anakin could beat anyone in lightsaber combat)
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@@MrExoticDemon
Anakin was beaten by far too many to think of him as a master of anything.
Nah, Sidious wouldn't train Starkiller as well as Vader did, because he wouldn't want him to even get that strong, just look at Maul and Vader, they both could have been much better
@@user-zz7zh7yv3tIn Legends Maul did not have that kind of potential he was not Talzins child in Legends like he was in Canon he was a child of a lesser nightsister he had a higher potency then Durge, Grievous, And Ventress but not as high as Dooku, Anakin, Luke, And Galen Merek nor Malgus and not as high as Plagueis, Windu, Yoda, Nor The other Skywalkers, Solos Within Leias Line, Nor The Mereks yeah.
Star Wars and horror go really well together. A horror movie or any other media with Darth Starkiller would be really cool.
Disney's too soft for that to be a movie, unfortunately
It's kinda funny and neat seeing Star Wars fans basically ignoring Disney at this point.
I really wish more websites would make the Starkiller Sith Stalker Costume. It's Too Cool and badass to ignore. Plus I can't make my Starkiller costume cause I don't have the time or talent to make it
4 real :)
The Old Republic seems far more interesting than any Star Wars lore
Past past is future itself
How about a hard one...Darth Anddendu's "Holocron Of Heresies"?
This process is super disturbing and my first thought as a SWTOR RP’er
“How about I make a Sith scientist who makes these things?”
Vader: “Wow….I got lucky huh”
The armor shows up in Luthen's shop in Andor
Does that mean it's Canon then, galen becoming a sith stalker? Or was it just presumably the armor of a sith stalker that had formerly been defeated as hard as that is to believe.
@@hippytrippyjonboy828neither. It just means the armour exists in universe.
A video about one of my favorite siths from one of my favorite Star Wars RUclipsrs 😊 today is a good day 👍
When I play force unleashed I always use the Sith Stalker Armor it's my favorite alternate costume in Both Game's
Ah a fellow gentleman of class I see :)
@@thewilhelmscream7912 yes I always use the Sith Stalker Armor in Both Game's and in the second Game I use the Sith stalker armor a Black lightsaber in one hand and a Red lightsaber in the other
@Comiccollector239 Yep and I alternate between the black or a red, occasionally a green saber in the first game
😳 oh my dark mando concept got a new piece of inspiration. No doubt starkiller being nearly a sith stalker in this alternate future is extremely terrifying, but my brain has been brainstorming a mando deep into the dark side, using its power combined with his culture’s discipline. Seeing the sith stalker has me thinking that a mando learning of them and orbalisk beetles in a holocron could turn him into a near indomitable force of death, hunting his bounties using any and all means to get his jobs done to fuel his project: orbalisk serum, a concoction of enzymes, extracted and concentrated from people eaten alive by orbalisk beetles in bacta tanks hooked up to IV’s. This serum would enhance one’s connection to the dark side, grant a healing factor, plus enhance strength, speed and stamina without the beetles consuming a host. Aside from this serum, there’s also a poison made from orbalisks that break down creatures on the molecular level. This poison the dark mando collects is stored in needles that are fired from the beskar needle launcher as alternative ammunition. Using information of sith stalkers, this mando would subject himself to augmentations to enhance his body for a greater dark side connection, as the more tangible the force is to a mandolorian, the more they can innovate on it. He trains with his augmented body and serum in his system in his spare time to gain even deeper understanding on the tangible aspects of the force, modifying his gear to keep up with the more he learns. Add beskar on top of all this and he’s shrugging off A LOT of damage!
I'm so glad I got back to Star Wars and found your channel once more.
Thank you
These sith stalkers are one of my favorites of all stars wars .
I am very glad that I am up-to-date now with what you have shared with us. Very interesting and I love how you get your fax. Thank you for sharing that and now I have something for a Star Wars DND.
Star Killer is like a Star Wars Sith + Combine soldier from Half Life
They sounds strange yet terrifying at the same time
In my mind this is canon and like the original draft of the force awakens, he became Kylo Rens master, hence the name "starkillers base". Also in my mind Lucas didn't give into studio pressure and directed the prequels the way he intended reveling Jar Jar was a sith lord.
see i want to see or read something of a story where a sith stalker after being around for sometime started to hear the call to the light and eventually would give into the call and become a servant of the light no longer a servant of darkness cause i would think it would make a very interesting book and or show in my opinion
Never heard of Sith Stalker's. They definitely sound terrifying though.
I had no idea there was a full lore behind the stalkers, very cool thanks for the video
02:25 - Jeez, makes Vaders suit of armour seem cushy! 😨
no i didnt know what a sith stalker was before this thank you for this great video
It was the Force unleashed, which got me into Star Wars. And even still I loved his character. Vaders secret apprentice, being incredibly strong because he was trained on the dark side by the strongest sith.
I've always wished his character was made Cannon
Starkiller needs his own movie, show, and obviously another game.
By far one of the best characters we have in star wars!
im pretty sure Sidious wasnt the one who changed Grevious, but he did it himself, then being found by Dooku
Thanks for the video man. I am going to have nightmares of this now.😂
Okay, someone please make a movie where it's The old Republic and we see this process they have to go through, I feel like it would so dope to see the sith and their lore more in the films.
I’ve notice Vader have trouble to breath in and Starkiller Stalker have trouble breathing out
Dudeee.. I didn’t know about the sith stalkers but I loved TFU1&2! Thanks for the info m8 💯
I plan on explaining the origins of Sith Stalkers in a fanfic. The source is going to be a Sith scientist who refused to let her fellow sith lover die, even though unbeknownst to her he was original just using her. An Ironic tragedy that a warrior familiar with passion would try to use a naive scientist, but end up used by her more literally.
I won't hold my breathe for that one 😂
@@jacoba.gattenby6309 Why not?
Hey that sounds really cool and I'd love to read that. Hit up the comments when and where you release your fanfic. Dont stress on those who talk down on it without even giving it a chance. Bring out your creativity there will always be someone out there whod enjoy it. Look forward to it. May the force be with you and your cool storys.
This was perfect timing just got force unleashed 1 and 2 haven't played them since they came out on the Wii lol got republic commandos and episode 3 for Xbox too all on sale too btw!!!
the stalker would actually make a really interesting SW based horror movie villain.
So that means Vader was a stalker slash Sith Lord
One of the most badass and scary designs ever
Pretty sure in the game star wars the old Republic there's a quest line where you fight some stalkers
This level of evil darkness is just what we need in Star Wars
Please make a video of Odan Urr and Ven Zallow🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
In the first game starkiller is a sith warrior and in the second he’s a sith marauder
Well whenever I get back to running my group in D6 Star Wars again this has given me an idea.
Have one of these things come out of stasis and have some fun.
Makes you think could darth maul have been turned into one if sidious had found his torso?
Man I wish Star Wars was cool again, Disney really did screw up everything…
Something about how Star Wars handles body horror is so much more horrifying and compelling than any media property like it
In a way, it's very similar to half life 2s combine
This is terrifying. Extremely sadistic,pure evil. I remember this from Force Unleashed. I didn't know about Sith Stalkers before. I would like to know more about them. It would be cool to see them in media someday. We will be careful. May the Force be with you too😊
Is the Sith Stalker version Starkiller really the most powerful? Sidious pretty much says that he lost his promise and potential in the alternate ending cutscene. Also Galen defeats the future vision of the Stalker, suggesting it was weaker than him at the time of that battle.
It would be nice to see the filp side instead of seeing the light side of the Force all the time to see different in both light and Dark side of the force
The coolest looking costume in the entire game series, the most fun what if storyline and should have had an entire game dedicated to it, where you take on everyone and become the one ruler of the galaxy, so good!!!
The scariest scene is the dark ending were sidious smash starkiller with his ship and you can see his flesh arm with cyber hand and he sceam in horror
Sith arent warmongers. They're just based❤
one of the other sith methods that was absolutely horrible, the 'thoguht bomb' from darth bane
I am aware of what a sip stalker is. They are dangerous assassins who should not be taken likely or be trifled with or confronted or approached in any way shape or form period😢😮
Wait would this make Darth Maul a Sith stalker when he went insane from hatred towards Obi-wan when his brother seen him because he basically looked deformed and had robotic spider like legs before Mother Talzin made him little bit sane again
So awesome.
You mean the best skin in the Unleashed games?
You mean the most used skin in the games and what I'm currently using...yesh
To be a Sith Stalker....you really are better off dead!
I didn’t know of Sith Stalkers
The andor show bright the sith stalker armor to canon when they displayed it in the shop owned by luthen Rael in 1 or 2 of the episodes when they did the shop scenes between luthen rael and mon mothma
I love these Sith Holocrons!
Well Starkiller armor was a recycle of the one used by Vader
Strong in the dark side starkiller was
can y'all talk about Inquisitor Jerec?
Very impressive indeed.
LUKE SKYWALKER: son of anakin
STARKILLER :son of vader😮
i think you should try to make a What If video about Vader becoming a Sith Stalker
starkiller design is so cool and included his helmet l always though he is more terrifying than Darth Vader
I remember crying as a 10 year old when I got the bad end and felt so much guilt lol
Back!
Reminds me of the Sith Troopers that were made for Darth Krayt
the stalkers id think would be scary enough that even the sith son would be little afraid, cuz y'know prob very strong, and cursed.
Sith dont waste... X to doubt.
I kinda figured that the transformation would actually involve removing the brain to keep conscienceness and just completely remake the body from the ground up and made of nothing but machinery and just paste in skin tissue on the robotic body and implant the brain into the body once full droid body construction would be completed
I love The Force Unleashed
My issue with Sith Starkiller is that he should have been far weaker that he was previously. Vader would have been twice as strong as Sidious had he not been injured on Mustafar. Now he's only aroung 80% of Sidous' power.
Any similar damage done to Starkiller should have left him as weak as ue was when the Force Unleashed started. Strong but no where near what he could have been.
Day 384 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Being a Sith truly does not come with a pension plan or retirement benefits
i really hope starkiller becomes cannon, he’s probably not tho 😌
re-upload?
Well, if yer gonna be bad, you might as well be _BRUTAL._ \m/
I liked this video but I have a topic id like to hear . About the origin of Yoda there is a rumor that he was trained by a sith before he became a Jedi.
There's a video somewhere that explains Yoda's species is super force sensitive and they have never turned to the darkside. Not even one of them.
One topic I would like to here about why the ancient sith was more powerful than modern sith
Wouldn't their connection to the Force be limited if so much of their body is replaced with cybernetics? It is what happened to Vader but like X10
We need this armor in SWTOR all 3 iterations if not the tatooine and hoth cause I am not sure how they would implement the sick and decomposing skin and detail in the regular stalker look.
honestly, Disney should make an entire game series or a massive game centered around the darker aspects of the Star Wars universe.
having a sort of "What If" vibe to it like Dragon Ball Xenoverse does would actually be fucking epic! imagine creating an entire team of specialized individuals like Bounty Hunters, fallen Jedi, Gray Jedi, Former Sith and aspiring Dark Side Users, all in an effort to break off those branches in time that has specific events taking place that the Force isnt able to correct on it's own.
the insane mass of a game this could be would sell like nothing else! hell, i bet you it would outsell GTA 6 once it releases by a landslide or two!!!