Why Starkiller Is So Much More Powerful Than Anyone Else
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One of my favorite things about Starkiller was what Sam Witwer said about his audition for the role:
They had him act out the scene where Starkiller is meditating and assembling his lightsaber, and he was straining and had a painful look on his face, and when they asked Sam why he was doing it like that, Sam said something like “because he’s a Sith and he doesn’t know how to meditate. Vader would never have taught him to meditate properly, so that’s how he would do it.” And I love that understanding of the character.
💀dude really told the ppl making the character how the character should act
Great fun fact
Seen that shit recently too. He earned 100000000 points of respect from me for that
@@insanelomein1278 its also the only reason why hes still in contact with them and gets so many roles.
He stated the only reason they keep him around is cause he doesnt ask for roles he asks what they are doing from a lore perspective.
That's why they love him.
He can also replicate georges voice, emperor palpatines (i think he even voiced him in the games) and darth maul whom he also acted as at one point
Hes literally the best actor to happen to star wars
@@insanelomein1278 that is when you know the right actor for the role is in front of you
I really like the whole notion of never being taught restraint allowing him to push his powers further into their extremes than would otherwise be possible - or at least likely. Galen brings the idea of utilizing the Force as an extension of themselves to a new level. He incorporates it into everything he does almost all the time. Jedi refrain from using the Force like a tool and even Sith will hide their power for a myriad of reasons. Galen uses the Force like he breathes.
True, even though many Sith were powerful, there were also many that, like Palpatine, walked around and hardly used it unless it panned out in a way they'd need it for their goals.
Jedi, well, you already said it best, hardly connected that deeply with it.
But like Maul, Galen was taught to use it best as a weapon, and so Galen uses the force all the time to get what he wants, no restraint. Makes you wonder how OP Anakin as the Chosen One would've been like had he not burned on Mustafar, and kept up his passion and ability in the force without the limits of a suit?
@@thalmoragent9344 100% agreed, it's crazy to consider what Anakin would have been capable of had he had training along the lines of Galen. Galen was already pushing the boundaries of what we thought was possible for a force-wielder to do. Anakin would be truly absurd.
Something else I was thinking about while reading that... Spoiler warning here, but in Legends continuity, there's a really cool scene when Anakin Solo is fighting right before his death where he basically releases his restraint and becomes so incredibly powerful that the Yuuzhan Vong deify him in their culture out of respect. His body glows and burns with The Force and, in the end, it's really hard to establish whether he died from his wounds or if he literally burnt himself up with The Force itself.
It's almost like Anakin Skywalker lost the ability to channel the Force through his body as effectively as he should have been able to when he was mutilated, and as such, couldn't "submerge" into the Force the way Galen always did, or the way Anakin Solo did at the time of his death. And it would kind of make sense in a way because Anakin would be acutely aware of his new-found limitation and would likely train Galen to capitalize on this crucial aspect of Force sensitivity, as he could finally recognize the depth of power that was previously available to him that he never actually utilized. Maybe? Maybe...
This seems to be the most satisfying answer.
Then wouldn't the Sith before the Rule of Two all be as powerful as Galen?
@@battlesheep2552 Potentially, yeah. It's not a guaranteed thing because the particular Sith would still have to be exceptionally powerful and afforded exceptional training. Neither of those things were actually fostered prior to the Rule of Two because of the inherent competition within the old Sith. They would frequently sabotage each other instead of actually nurturing someone potentially more powerful than themselves. This was a big part of the reason why Darth Bane created the Rule of Two in the first place.
There are examples of old Sith that are miles beyond their peers of their era. A lot of them are former Jedi though, so their training couldn't possibly be similar to Galen's. If we look further back in the timeline it starts to get fuzzy for me but consider Vitiate and possibly Revan after his memory loss? They were so much more powerful than their peers (in their prime) that they generally just did whatever they wanted on a galactic scale.
The simple answer: he was Anakin's apprentice, and Anakin was both a sith traditionalist and the most powerful force user of the time. The sith way is supposed to be that the student outgrow the master and eventually kills him to cement his power. Palpatine abandoned this way, but Anakin embraced it.
Anakin wasn’t the most powerful force user of all time. He had the potential to become that, but wasn’t able to fully realize that potential before being crippled.
@@QixTheDS yes, I didn't say he was the most powerful of all time, just that he was the most powerful of that time. At the very least, Revan would have been more powerful than him. But certainly, if he'd been able to keep his biological form, he would have been much stronger than Palpatine
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Palpatine killed his master while he slept. I think he embraced that school of thought just as all Sith did, yet he was cunning enough to maximize his chances of success by avoiding a lightsaber duel with a Sith Lord. Even though Plagueis was, for the most part, not too keen on lightsaber battles. He leaned more on knowledge of the force, if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention that such backstabbery is so fiendishly evil that only a Sith Lord could execute such an act.
@@jordansmith7860 the idea behind that sith mentality is that each new apprentice is stronger than the last. One reason why there's only supposed to be two sith is that if there are more than one apprentice they will work together to overcome the master. The sith are both bound by an honour code, and obsessed with making the sith stronger. Palpatine rejected this by both killing his master in a cowardly way and by taking on more than one apprentice. He was obsessed with his own survival, and in pursuing that he weakened the sith.
@@ScoptOriginal Vader was 80% the power of Palpatine even in the suit
If they made Rey as psychologically broken and emotionally raw as Galen Marek was both before and after cloning, she might have actually been at least a more interesting character and have a logical reasoning to her absurd outbursts of raw, illogical force abilities.
relax, is girrrrl powa.
The explanation for her power was that she was palpatines granddaughter
@@justsomeice9585 And Luke was the son of the chosen one, had the chosen one's Master and Jedi Grand Master Yoda train him over years and was still nowhere near this ridiculously OP.
@@ColinStevens in legends he was op as fuck
@@maverickslastoddworld6476 And it took him DECADES to get there. It's not the power level, it's the timeline to power level ratio.
I believe sam wittwer mentioned that while the character was intensely focused on the power, other abilities eluded him because he could never find any sort of peace. Seeing the future, sensing others and even basic meditation were difficult for him and other more passive abilities were outright lost on him because he was never trained on how to explore them. Where other force users were trained to be precise scalpels, he was a grenade, but that was all he knew how to be.
When you put all Points in Strength and dont even bother getting the Passive´s of the other Skilltrees.
There was a great bit of dialogue about that in the first game, too.
Juno: What... what are you doing?
Starkiller: Meditating. A Jedi can sometimes sense visions of the future.
Juno: Have you ever done this before?
Starkiller: [Half-smiles] I've never been a Jedi before...
The way he was trained seems to resemble the philosophy of the ancient sith lords, where personal power was their only goal, and it defiantly shows in him
The ferocity reminds me of Darth Malgus
Seems legit. Vader definitely would’ve been able to access detailed knowledge in Sith training methods.
"defiantly"
I don't think he was trained...more like tortured
@@william678910 torturained? Tortrained?🤔
Much like with maul, Starkiller was trained to be an assassin, a weapon, not a Sith Lord. That’s why he was so good. He practiced combat, not deeper philosophical concepts. 24/7 experience in fighting will get you really well versed.
Which is exactly why I love both Maul and Starkiller
Both purly combat focused Dark side users from childhood... hella OP
More of a sith assassin
Yea but star killer seemed to have a greater control and understanding of the force outside of combat and with certain force moves in combat. However I do love me some darth maul.
@@Nerdy_The_Punk I’m not saying they’re at the same level just like all MMA fighters aren’t at the same level but when all you do is train you’re bound to get very good and if you have certain affinity for it and understanding of the movement mechanics you’ll be unstoppable
Since,Starkiller embraces neither the light or dark sides that gives him insight on how truly balance both.
Imo i believe he is a grey jedi
Closest to a Grey you'll ever see.
@@rell127 yep
@@rell127
Qui-Gon Jinn and Mace Windu would like to have a word with you.
(Windu for combat and actually using the Dark Side, even though only minor, and Qui-Gon for philosophy.)
@@xellanchaos5386 They weren't really Grey, the term Grey doesn't exist in Star war but when it comes to powers and mentality he fit the mold.
You forgot to mention that Galen’s power with the force was so great that even as a child Vader mistook him for a fully fledged Jedi master and that his father was rather the Padawan he said something to the extent of “I sense a great power nearby where is your master” to Galen’s father
Wow! I hadn't heard that before. That's impressive!
“I sense someone far more powerful nearby. Where is your master?”
“The dark side has clouded your mind. You killed my master years ago.”
“Then now you will share his fate.”
@@schulinkoulle 👏 my guy
@@ericcaldwell3584. also when galen was a child he took Vader's lightsaber with the force and Vader didn't even feel the force pull or his lightsaber leave him.
Reading these comments made me buy both the games again
Starkiller is the physical embodiment of the most primal force abilities. He would not reach the levels of GM Luke, Yoda, Vader or Sidious in the more eloquent and knowledgeable teachings, but he would of turned out to be the best combatant. The nuclear warhead of the force.
You should watch the game theory video about how strong Vader is
@@abmantis4441 Not stronger than Starkiller thats for sure
@@casualcookin3893 did you even watch the video vader is absolutely stronger than starkiller, his feats are ridiculous.
@@abmantis4441 I dont have to watch it Starkiller kicked Vaders 4ss
@@casualcookin3893 i not gonna humor you, you didn't even watch the video why would I talk to you.
If Disney ever makes a Starkiller movie they will destroy his character, it would only be a good movie if George Lucas or Dave Filoni or both directed it
😆 🤣 😂 David filoni is an sjw feminist too he doesn't like strong masculine powerful male characters he agrees with the way luke Skywalker was in the sequel trilogy, if he touches starkiller he would castrated emasculated and humiliated him.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 i was basing it on the fact that filoni is a good director
@@phillipmitchell71 but not a good writer he can't create complex characters like starkiller exar kun revan bane vitiate nihiluis krayt
Still would be better than current paramount plus halo tv show .... They fucked up .... Master Chief's legacy !
@@altairskywalker1648 DeSeCrAtIoN
Galen is one of my favorite characters from Legends. I think much of his power came from being the product of two Force-sensitives, combined with his training from Darth Vader, and likely his repressed feelings concerning his parents deaths. Vader, reduced as he was, was still the second-strongest being alive until Luke fully came into his own. Starkiller is, I think, a glimpse of what Luke could have been if he gave into the Dark Side, a dark reflection so to speak.
I look at him like any other prodigy. While yes his parents were both jedi which undoubtedly aided in him being force sensitive. Regardless of race or status you could be born incredibly gifted or not. Look at Vaner Shan for example, he was the son of both Revan and Bastilla Shan, yet he wasn't force sensitve. Palpatine's parent's weren't force sensitive and yet he was and ended up becoming the most post powerful sith lord ever. Some are lucky, some aren't. Galen was lucky.
There was a story out there pre Disney that palps had a sith/darkside shadow/entity attached to him and along with his sociopath tendencies it assisted in him becoming the greatest of all sith.
That’s exactly what I would say.
Also, when it comes to OPness like that of Marek’s, at least there’s a big amount of training behind it, unlike someone whose name begins with the letter R and whose last name isn’t Skywalker.
@@Alec11_43 oh you mean Rose?!?! That makes sense.
Every great Sith lord fro the old republic era turn in his grave every time you say Papa Palps was the greatest Sith ever. :D
Uh... Pretty sure Darth Revan was more powerful than Darth Sidious. Plenty of other Sith Lords too. Sidious was just the most powerful at the time, not of all time.
In the first game he gathered the empire's enemies, eventually kickstarting the rebellion. He had a destiny to play a strong role in balancing the Force across the galaxy. I always thought that was why he was so powerful.
That’s what I always thought too, glad I’m not the only one. Did you like the 360 or ps2/wii version of the game ?
I've always thought galens fighting style with its heavy use of the force makes way more sense than the way most jedi/with fight
Definitely
Starkiller is such a fun character to play in star wars
Playing Starkiller in both Force Unleashed games and DLC made me think how truly gifted Starkiller was. He was taken at the right age to be imprinted on by both Jedi and Sith teachings, the former from his father, Kento, and the latter from his master, Vader. He was trained to use all of his power all the time. He even forced himself to release his restraints on his own time when Vader was busy. I believe the reason he turned back to the light and denounced his Sith training was because of his father's ghost and teachings when he was younger. He tried to get rid of his lineage, but deep down he couldn't. He knew he was better than what Vader taught him to be.
If I had control over the canon universe, I would put Galen back into the universe, but in a different time. I would put him long after the events of the sequel trilogy, where he was born force sensitive and had to be a really tough kid to survive in a harsh environment. He'd grow into an unstoppable machine, but learn that killing indiscriminately is inherently wrong. The details would be better worked out if I had the time, but you get the idea.
And how would that work with him being vaders apprentice
At that point you would just be removing everything that made him so interesting and would just be left with a completely different character
@@deathknight1239
This actually
When playing the game,I'm glad Starkiller is so OP.
A Damn Tragedy He's Not Canon.
Not really tbh. It’s better he’s not
@@bobbythomas6520 nah disney already fucked the canon with rey might as well bring back some of the more favorite op characters back
@@liamlinson7563 nah, he’s not cannon for a reason and never will be. Meant to be that way. He’s still there to enjoy just doesn’t fit with the story at all
@@bobbythomas6520 the reason he became not canon was due to his ability to pull a star destroyer out of the sky. Lucas himself wanted Starkiller to be canon until that feat was made which wouldve begged the question... "why didnt any jedi do that in the original trilogy?" then again the same could be said with all the new op shit we got in TLJ and TROS lol
@@Leomorg731 No jedi did it in the original trilogy because none of them were as powerful in the force as Starkiller.
Starkiller isnt overpowered. His parents were Jedis who left the order. Having the genes of 2 force sensitive is very good force-potential wise. Darth Vader needed someone with a strong Potential and connection to the force to become his apprentice, he wouldnt choose some weak creature. Thats why he chose Starkiller and trained him for over 12 years everyday. Vader didnt care for meditation and becoming one with the force, he focused on training him on dark-side abilities and lightsaber combat only. The training droid allowed Starkiller to master all lightsaber forms and when it came to dark side abilities like lightning, it was pretty clear that Starkiller was a natural. Even Sidious was impressed because Starkiller invented the "Sith Seeker" something no Sith ever did.
For those who think hes owerpowered: He beat Vader because hes really strong AND because he duelled his master like every day for the past 12 years. He knew every trick and used his speed, agility and a lot of lightning, aka Vaders kryptonite. He didnt win against Sidious. Sidious was testing him, so he could evaluate his Potential, so he could be his new apprentice. Him acting to be beaten was only so he can bring Starkiller back 2 the dark side. But here is why Starkiller is REALLY strong: He resisted the dark side and when Sidious attacked Kota with lightning he selflessly went in between the two and embraced the force for the first time in his life (instead of the dark side). When he went one with the force, Sidious became super scared because Starkiller was able to absorb his lightning. The resulting big explosion killed Starkiller but he succesfully saved his friends, the Rebellion and the reason why he merged one with the force: Juno.
Sam Witwer said he beats him because Vader wanted him to beat him and that in TFU 3, he was would have lost to a serious Vader.
Galen is a genious, but he is not match for Vador.
@Joshua Cossey yeah 😅
@@MartialArtsTechniquesideas false that's tfu2 the clone not the actual starkiller in tfu1 which actually beat vader, the clone is much weaker than the original his full power is half of the original the original was extremely strong enough to rival vader as a teenager which is why sidious wanted him for himself
@Crocs where???
Revan and Bastila had a kid and he wasn't force sensitive. Padme wasn't force sensitive and look at Luke. Leia was weaker than Luke and her kids with Han (who, again, wasn't sensitive) were insanely overpowered.
I got to work in QA for the first Force Unleashed game. When I understood I was going to be testing that game, which was the first real game I was being assigned to test. It blew my mind. The story was great. Fun fact, in the PS2 version. Initially the devs made it so if you switched models for your character, it would carry over inside cutscenes. So you could see Vader or The Emperor kiss Juno at the end. Anyway there were a lot of funny moments where swapping models made the scenes absurd and extremely hilarious. But it was cut out before release. Where I can t recall if you swapped models it would play the OG scene with StarKiller regardless of what you had picked, or it just skipped the cutscene altogether. Sad.
Aw, wish they kept it.
What made Galen so powerful in his physical and force abilities was the combination of training, study, experimentation, and experiencing both the light and dark sides of the force. As Vader was training Galen under the pretext of dethroning the emperor, Galen had to be in top condition and trained to be at his peak ability. This meant that he could not be crippled or handicapped in any way be it physically, mentally, or psychologically. Vader also had his apprentice study the teachings and techniques of the jedi as well as master all 7 of the main and variant forms of lightsaber swordsmanship. Vader also made him take the jedi trials and with his crossing to the light side was able to become more powerful in his force abilities adding skills such as precognition and foresight into his arsenal. Also, though it was something of a shadow victory, he "fought" all 12 original members of the Jedi Council during the twilight of the republic and clone wars and won each time. So to say that he is a juggernaut and a force to be reckoned with would be very spot on a description to describe the man formerly known as Starkiller.
I think this is a very valid explanation. After reading the novel & the comic I too think he’s not all powerful but he’s just very loud. He’s my favorite character and I’d like to see them bring him into canon.
A big thing that I wish you would have touched on more is the fact his dad was a Jedi master, and his mom a Jedi knight. The Jedi Order themselves specifically prohibited Jedi from forming any sort of serious attachment to others (as we witnessed with Anakin in the prequels) and a big reason for that was because they feared their offspring would be too strong to contend with, which is exactly what happened with Starkiller, For example in the opening level Vader repeatedly mistakes Kento (Starkillers father) as a Padawan, because his young sons connection to the force was so much stronger.
Bro im so glad you made this video. Ive been describing Galen Merrick/ StarKiller to my friends for so long. Def sending this vid out
Focused hate drove his inhabited training over the 20 years. He had nothing but time to push his abilities. Hard to imagine, Vadar tormenting you from an early age. But as you've discussed in prior videos, uninhibited raw power in the force does not make you a powerful force user.
I always thought, If Vader could construct a droid that could mimic lightsaber forms and fighting styles and change their appearance to the force users they mimicked, wouldn’t it of made more sense for Vader to mass batch them? Basically a droid like the infiltrator Terminators in the Terminator franchise, Scouting out enemies and hiding in plain sight using another’s appearance. For example as Obi Wan, could of easily of infiltrated Alderaan and uncovered the rebellion plot from Bale Organa etc. especially cus Vader and Sidious know 100% Obi Wan and Yoda survived, so they could of used their image to gain trust from enemies before finding out their secrets then destroy them.
The guy was born from two Jedi masters and then raised by Darth Vader the chosen one born from the force. It makes sense why he’s so powerful.
So Starkiller used 100% of the Force every time he fought his enemies?! Well that explains a lot.
I think it’s safe to say that this boy, had felt a lot of pain, but who also experienced a lot of passion and love from his parents, scared and soon controlled he gained so much power.
He was probably scarred from seeing death and violence and loss with the confusion fate, being able to control your mind being raised how he was…. It just transformed him into an absolute weapon 💪🏼
I always loved these games for how OP you felt 👌👍
I think it's a pretty insane feat that in the OG game when Vader went to Galen's home to track down his father, he asked him where his master was as to assume that there were 2 force users here but the other was so much more powerful that Galen's father couldn't be the master. But in fact it was Galen who Vader sensed and he was so powerful at such a young age that Vader killed the troopers who were going to kill young Galen and then took him as his apprentice. That's some unreal potential.
Out of all the force users I've ever seen or read about, this guy is the only one I've ever truly considered a walking calamity. A good chunk of that is probably due in part to me playing both TFU games and getting to experience the carnage firsthand. Still, Galen is truly a damn beast
I'd put him against any of the top Force user's and like to see him come out the victor
Darth nihlous was a walking calamity. The epitome of an evil hungry hungry caterpillar
@@MrSilentfire11 So
Who would you think would win?
@@SITH_CHAMP nihlous by a landslide he literally drained entire planets of life in the span of minutes
A literal living wound in the force
@@MrSilentfire11 True..
I'd still like to see how it would play out
Yessss I see starkikler I click
so true
Best charter ever like for force unlisted 3
Simple man I see👍🏼
*Luke:* "Is the Dark Side stronger?"
*Yoda:* (shamelessly lying as usual) : "No, no."
It's interesting how Anakin Trained Ahsoka and while Vader, trained Galen. Two completely different people but yet, Ahsoka and Galen wield the lightsaber the same way
Your voice was just destined to breakdown stories!
I would say that his inner conflict as far as a light side and a dark side is what makes him powerful. I think he is a Grey Jedi in a sense. Otherwise besides the explinations in this video how else could he contend with Vader or Palpatine?
Galen is the ultimate force user. No restraints but a heart so pure it couldnt be corrupted even after decades of sith indoctrination
I belive that anakin was in fact the chosen one, bringing balance to the force by purging the majority of the jedi and bringing the dark side back to the forefront. That being said I think that anakin and Palpatine went further than the force had intended and Starkiller was an attempt to rectify this issue. As despite being trained solely in the dark side of the force he was constantly drawn to the light while simultaneously dismantling the darkside forces that he was confronted by.
Balance doesn’t mean equally represented, nor fair chance. It’s about efficiency of a system. Them purging the Light Side of force is definitely evil. The Jedi council should’ve inclusively recognized dark side force potential. Tame it. Guide it. Even utilize it. That would’ve cultivated more wisdom, and power over hidden danger.
But they felt destroying Sith followers. Or burying Sith history had subdued further trouble. Which it did for a thousand years. Jedi Order had become too complacent, instead of wiser.
I want a movie of him so bad
Same
Vader probably reflected on his encounter with Quigon Ginn. Plus Vader’s “training” definitely was boarder line torture and always pushed himself further and further almost to the point of breaking.
Starkiller is what you get when survival, combat, and enhancing your own power are the only 3 aspects of your life. Then once Vader starts sending him after Jedi he becomes so strong with the dark side to only then learn about his light side and embrace both aspects. Not being held down by sith or Jedi teachings really helps and him pulling that Star destroyer out of the sky still is the coolest use of the force I’ve ever seen.
Would love to see Starkiller in live action. The actor is amazing too, so he works well in voice and live action.
Just make sure to scale him down to fit the universe haha.
Why? Let him be a force-nuke. Rey is literally 'all the jedi' but we can't allow starkiller to exist? It's okay if Rey can pull shit outta the sky and randomly shoot lightning despite no training but Starkiller is going too far?
Or maybe just scale the emperor and Vader up
@@stinkfinga4918 retcon sequel trilogy completely.
Wished they made force unleashed 3 the physics and using the force was so awesome in part 1 for a 2006 game that's crazy that first mission with darth vader is legendary 🙌
Not only was Starkiller very strong in the force, he came up with different ways on how to use to the Force, ways that most other force-users likely wouldn't think of. In a way, he was exploring the full potential of what one can do with the Force besides the scale of it.
Starkiller will always be my favorite star wars character unlike other games to where you are out classed and far out matched by darth vader the idea that a person can become powerful enough to stand and fight him as an equal will always appeal more to me then running away
Because he is Vader's apprentice
I wanna see this character pop up in canon. Considering the actor has aged, it would still work if he showed up in the post-Episode VI timeline we are getting from most of the Disney+ shows.
When personal power is more important to you than any rules or doctrine, the only limit is how far you're willing to go.
I still remembered when he drew down the entire starkiller fleet. Kind of made me laugh how insane it was. And also made me realize how insanely powerful this guy truly is compared to the rest
"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the Force"
Pretty sure Starkiller yanking that fricken Star Destroyer from orbit proved that to be pretty damn true.
Definitely proved Yoda's point that size isn't a factor when using the Force, that's for sure!
is there a way starkiller can be canon yes or no also the reason he is more powerful is because he is son of two jedi which make him even more than he is
Did you come up with that? Good theory.
@@jackson.6282 not therroy fact and true
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 just cause your parents are Jedi doesn't mean anything. The force is random when it gives out mediclorians
@@Utge_maexander0323 to a certain extent that's not true
The force mealstrom ability Galen has is the most destructive force ability to be used, and from what ive understood is that numerous Sith have tried this and died as a result.. Galen is the only one who can actually wield this ability pretty much effortlessly. As the ability is like a self destructive implosion thats fully forced out externally as a vapourising sonicboom, and its somewhat terrifying to imagine when he has spent like 15 years of his life mastering the deadilest ability known imo.. his lightsaber form is one based purely off the use of the force at all times.. to have that level of both destructive and control at full 100% of the time is amazing, not to mention that when Force Unleashed 2 came out, he had even massive improved his form (even though he was a clone- and he was the original test to clone the force in which is how Palpertine returned in Rise of Skywalker) to dual wield whilst still using the force all of the time is just crazy level.. i can just imagine him actually coming back to canon and literally could of destroyed or defended anything single handed, in the most effortless way possible. 😂 love the actor who plays Galen too.
I think this explains most of Starkiller's OP ability. I also think that all Sith have fuel from past trauma that help stoke the fires of fear, hate, and rage. His father's murder, perhaps knowing he was being hidden because his parents were force users could be a good way to open the floodgates to newer and greater pain and trauma. His fear, resentment, and conflicting emotions of all sorts about Vader would be good gris for the mill. Thank you, Stupendous. I think you, Sam Witwer, Star Wars Theory and many others should start a production company, campaign for Disney to drop Lucas Films and sell it for $1.00 USD because they screwed it up so much. Take it over and reboot the whole darn thing.
It’s interesting to think how Vader trained Galen with no restraint at all. Maybe before the plot twist Vader Honestly believed Galen had the potential to help him overthrow the Emperor, at least until he changed his mind. Or Vader wasn’t afraid of how powerful Galen would became and gave into his curiosity to push Galen to new unprecedented heights, relative to growth rate.
No doubt if Galen were allowed to live as long as Plapatien he would’ve surpassed him.
I like the theory that Gelen’s training was the key to his power cause Vader would’ve had unprecedented access to past generations of knowledge with few to no obstacles in his way. No Jedi council to bar access to the libraries and such.
1:33 this aged well , Kenobi find out anakin is still alive in episode 2 of Obi wan Kenobi
one of the staple things i find in most universes is that people who aren't taught "properly" that is, aren't taught they way everyone else is often end up being able to push themselves further and reach levels of power that others simply can't or that otherwise take decades or rituals. this is not the same as self taught. for instance Darth Bane viewed The Force very differently than the rest of The Brotherhood. he was unsatisfied with the masters explanations of the force and sought out his own answers. this allowed him to becoming much more powerful than his fellow Brotherhood members to the point where a Sith Lord with decades of experience over Bane was unable to defeat him even after he'd been weakened.
personally i like the idea of Starkiller being as powerful as he is not because he's just more powerful. but that it's because everyone else subconsciously holds themselves back even Vader and Sidious only being able to use their full potential in extreme moments. it explains WHY he's powerful enough to beat enemies like Kota, Paratus, Shaak Ti. and even beat Monsters like Vader and Palps.
I believe that starkiller after having fought all his battles began to have a lot more time to learn more about the force and learn about other aspects for instance he knew that if he stopped training his strength and power would diminish so I firmly believe that he started to study all àspects of the force focusing on perhaps pioneering new abilities and more
I mean, part of it is the sheer focus on combat, part of it is the lack of restraint, but also part of it is that strength in the Force is like a muscle: the more you use it, the stronger it gets. Note how much more obviously powerful the Jedi are during the Clone Wars than in the first two prequel films. They're being forced to really flex their muscles for the first time in a millennium. Marek/Starkiller is that dialled up to a million.
Im still hoping for a spin off about him. Would be such a cool series for sure.
I'd like to think that starkiller is just a fraction of what Luke ended up being. We never have gotten to see the force truly "unleashed" like we have in the game.
Vader, the most powerful, training someone would let that someone be insanely powerful regardless. I'd like to think that starkiller is what Vader could have been. Hints why he can defeat Vader and go toe to toe with palps.
Not at all Vader would have been stronger then legend luke Vader is literally a demi god however starkiller is still badass
My own philosophy on the Force is it always exists in balance. When the galaxy is inhabited by billions of force-users, it becomes diffuse. When only a few inhabitant vessels exist it still acts in balance but also is extremely concentrated and powerful. It may explain why the Sith Lords were exponentially more powerful after the Rule of Two was established and the Jedi were decimated, but again, also creative licensing comes into play with each writer of past content who have their own interpretation on the matter.
What I think makes Starkiller so powerful is that he purely trained in the combative aspects of the force instead of the ideological aspects of it so he almost listened to the force more then most Jedi or sigh because he had to listen to the force to learn how to manipulate it in such ways we see in the game.
The one thing that I loved about Sam Witwer is that he understands Starwars. He actually knows the lore of the characters. He’s not just some actor playing a starwars character, he’s a starwars character playing a starwars character.
Bro, I get what you're saying but any actor that's given a role to play a star wars character(if they are taking it seriously), will obsess about the research.
In one of the books, Starkiller stood on the hull of a star destroyer while in the vacuum of space without a space suit or protective equipment of any kind and force the star destroyer to fly at high speed into a planet and stayed on the hull even while the destructive heat of passing through the atmosphere tore the star destroyer apart and then jumped off of the star destroyer before impact and landed safely on the ground away from the crashed star destroyer.
All he use to protect himself from the vacuum, the heat, the pieces of star destroyer, and impact with the ground was the force. And then he took on Darth Vader and won.
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I don't recall if it was in the PS2 or PS3/X360 versions. But in the cutsene where Vader finds the boy. When he realizes his potential. I think he either sabers or force chokes the troopers who are witnesses. It is very badass. lol
5:17 hence why he's the protagonist called force UNLEASHED
I’m glad the writers did do anything claque with the names of Vader’s inquisitors, especially taking something from them. Could have called them Vader’s right hand. When they all lost their right hand for training.
Bro he needs a movie or a show
I read somewhere that Starkiller's Force abilities were trained for combat only. Simple Force tricks like levitating an apple would be too difficult to maintain because he was trained mostly in the Dark Side, he needed the battle trance and the rage to summon his extraordinary ability. So if Starkiller needed to crush the apple or send it flying towards an enemy it'd be easy. Starkiller is an example of someone exceptionally strong with the Force but only trained to master a single aspect. Darth Vader mastered more than just Force combat, but he wouldn't train an apprentice that could overpower him.
If Disney does anything like a tv show. They’d have to do like 2 Vader seasons teasing him Starkiller a little bit and then set off the events of the first game in the third season and then end it how the first game did. Sure you could tease his survival and change him into a nomad force user. But there’s definitely room to introduce the character. Even if it’d require some nerfing
I would definitely do a Vader series and have him featured as it’s main protagonist. It would be dope to see Vader train Galen as a child in the ways of the Sith.
Just finished replaying both unleashed games and it makes me want a 3rd iteration even more
Considering Star Killer grew up with the Darkside of the force and how Darth Vadar was so relentless, it only makes sense. When Sidious tapped into the Darkside more in his fight with Windu, Sidious suffered the aging effect. All his plans were based solely on revenge against the Jedi Order and a power grab over the universe. At the same time, Star Killer never gained Sith eyes, so maybe it's more about letting the force take you and pushing yourself to the limits at your own rate. To willingly become a vessel for power as you grow up as a child.
Plot armor is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
luke moved a black hole, yoda triped a mountain sized creature. starkiller just helped a star destroyer fall from the sky he never pulled it down but rather guided it down. id like to see a starwars movie involving the one and only Hut jedi.
and luke force projected himself from halfway across a galexy
I’d love to see starkiller show up in the cinematic universe. Sam Witver deserves to get a live action run in Star Wars.
Great video. I have a dumb question... the clip of Vader being force pushed through all the walls looks amazing, is it from an animated show or a cutscene from a game? I want to play/watch whatever it's from.
Honestly I figured he would say cause he's a video game character that had to beat Vader and the emperor but I really like the way he explained it
I would love to see a Trilogy or a TV series from Disney about starkiller
2:34 random picture of death from Darksiders 2 in the background.
Vader created a ruthless killer using an already unorthodox lightsaber style and combining it fluidly with his force ability’s Vader got exactly what he wanted and incredibly skilled and creative warrior.
Something I see that people don't often notice is that Galen was not only the son of one, but two Jedi (Kento and Mallie Marek). Jedi who has just come out of the Clone Wars and have experienced Order 66 firsthand. Galen would most likely have been raised as a Jedi, or at the very least was taught of The Force, for the first few years of his life before Vader even found him as well.
I'm not sure what makes him so incredibly powerful, but he is still my favorite character in Starwars, even if he is not canon.
I think they need to make a saga on him
This is an awesome pretty much spot on description😂
I enjoy your videos regarding Star Wars and Marvel. I am curious though what is this music that is playing in the background?
I wish they would do more with this franchise. Star Killer was such a memorable experience.
i love it. I love every video from you. It's so detailed so interesting. I always love the star wars universe if u explain it.
He whooped both Darth Vader and Darth Sidious' asses in the first game at the same time! That dude had tremendous power! I wish they would remaster those games for PS4!
Star killer is so loved and powerful because he is a video game character. That is literally it people enjoyed the feeling of running around and brutalizing everything you encounter. If he’s was introduced in a show or movie he would have been hated, in a comic he could have been liked but not nearly to the same extent.
These games made me look deeper and appreciate Star Wars waaaay more
Starkiller include as Legends character (non canon). So, if Disney would make one movie about him, must be including anything happens in Legends Route
What's that song in the background?
One Thing is that he was always One With The Force On The Light Side Of The Force even when he was just a kid of a Jedi Master (his father) and later when he became the Starkiller he still was One With The Force On The Light Side Of The Force. So in All he never truly was Dark Force-user, but could Use the Dark Side to his advantage as he pleases at anytime and still not become a Dark Jedi. This was also the same for Kyle Katarn, but Kyle Katarn was afraid that he “should” become a dark Jedi, but Kyle Katarn never into the dark, for his father was a Jedi Master and for Kyle Katarn had too much of his father in him with that knowledge of his father’s teaching and knowledge, Kyle Katarn had the same feelings of other Jedi Masters who thought that ones you goes down the road of the dark side you will become a dark Jedi, but this is only if a Jedi is too tempted for letting his/her emotions getting control over her/him then he/she Will become a dark Jedi.
Anakin Skywalker was not a Dark Jedi, he did not approve of how The Jedi Council and masters were about let their students of the Force learn everything about the Force and all the knowledge they had or knew, that was Anakin exit from the Jedi Order, The Jedi Council was idiotic in who “they” wanted to teach and they was so jealous of Anakin in every way, Yoda was an stupid idiot who was control by fear of losing their foothold in The Galaxy and totally forgot to meditate on the real topic (the dark master darth sidious) and how to locate sidious. And the Jedi Temple was built on a Sith temple and this made Yoda lose focus and cloud his vision, but Yoda blamed Anakin for having a clouded future, how a ironic?!
The Jedi Council was blaming other Jedi for things which themselves were to blame. And none of The Jedi Council were One With The Force, they all only force-users and real Jedi’s, Anakin and Master Qiu-Gon Jinn was the only ones who were One With The Force in all time of their life’s.
So one thing comes to mind about starkiller. Dude is the spawn of 2 jedi. Like he's a force baby.
One of the greatest Grey force user ever if you ask me. Him and Revan are at the top of my list.
Someone told me a theory that Galen is pretty much the sum of Order 66. When the majority of the jedi were murdered Galen was pretty much equalizer to keep the force in balance as only the dark side was left (until Luke and Leia)
I surely do hope that if they make a 3rd Cal Kestis game that he would become AT LEAST as powerful as Marek was in the light side. Galen was afterall wielding both sides.
I would have loved it for him to be Rey’s father, explaining why she was so OP out of the box.
Honestly he could be added into the lore an it make sense, I would love to see him tied into the lore by making him a descendant of Revan