RDR 1 Dutch Visits Arthurs Grave
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Dutch, you should never of took Micah's side over Arthur, that ending was epic BTW
Thanks bro ❤️
I think he never choose his side its so rare because he says, same as you i suppose but john was there to kill micah john didnt even know about the money. And after that why did dutch walk away from the money
why did you spoil it
@@arianniknam9141 Why are you in the comments? You see the title and thumbnail have a spoiler and you go in the comments and even read comments of comments?
@@professionalgamer6522 I wanted to know the rdr1 timeline
Charles is a real one. He found Arthur and buried him instead of leaving him out to rot. Man, Charles is such a good side character along with Josiah, Lenny, saddie, uncle and John.
I hate unccle because he is annoying and useless
@@fahmiromli2416 HE HAS LUMBAGO SHOW SOME RESPECT
You forgot hosea
I would love some DLC where you could play as Charles or Sadie. Never gonna happen though; online play is where they're putting in the effort for that easy play-to-win cash.
Next Red Dead we need the story to be split between Sadie and Charles. Maybe something along the lines of Charles going north with the Indians and Sadie going to South America like she talked about, but coming back to help Charles fight for the Indians against the government.
The saddest part is... All the characters who died would have taken Arthur's side
Yup
I guess that’s why they died
I don't know about Davey, but probably yes
Even micah?
@@christian.xavier.villagran Nah Micah was a lone worlf
The pain in Arthurs voice as he spoke to Dutch in his last minutes of life was heartbreaking. But I love how John, despite having no weapon or the use of both arms, ran to Arthurs side knowing full well Arthur couldn't protect him. Thats the one quality in John I really respect. His shear unwavering bravery.
"alexa wolf"
@@amoory5172 what
They are brothers. If only they were both together in their prime, they would be unstoppable.
Sheer* shears are something you cut with.
@@amoory5172 what
"i failed you son.. i miss you and Hosea.. Sean, Lenny, Jenny, Mac, Davey, Grimshaw, Molly, Annabelle.. and even the O'driscoll boy... i had a plan Arthur..
i had.. i did." - Dutch Van der linde
Good quote
Dutch would say that
Arthur gave all he had.
Boah*
when did he say that
Dutch was always playing chess. Whenever he had a plan, it was a game of chess. Chess is a game in which you sacrifice pieces to protect the King.
However you can lose a game by sacrificing the wrong piece and really good players can turn your own pieces against you, exactly what happened with Arthur and John.
@@jlufton9076 who was the good player though? John? He had no plan except to oppose. Dutch outsmarted himself.
@@bbb462cid micah
@@rrazelp833 ...killed by Dutch though
@@bbb462cid YEARS after the collapse of the gang so.. that game of chess long been over.
Imagine if when Micah said; "Arthurs been dead a long time."
Arthur showed up.
Micah would definitely shit himself
*Arthur shows up "You said?"
@@codieneshark2718 *John and Dutch disarm Micah and John takes Sadie away to get help for her wound. Arthur comes back from the dead and is Healthy and Dutch allows Arthur to fight Micah and destroy Micah and then Dutch walks away*
@@professionalgamer6522 then Arthur starts a jelly bean company
@@HigherThenOctane then he becomes a billionaire and pays his wanted level from the government
I absolutely love Dutch’s look in RDR 1,
it shows just how far he fell.
Off the cliff xD
Hosea and Arthur deaths made him go insane
@@GEORGEFLOYDPEEK no they don't he's always been that way. He wanted Arthur, John and Abigail dead. Dutch is a con artist and has had John and Arthur conned since they were little kids. He never actually cared about anyone but his own ass.
@@stpbasss3773 I don’t know about all that.
@@stpbasss3773 Not the case at all, he held a grudge against John, but he loved Arthur... The real con artist was Micah. He was in Dutch's ear all the time blaming everything he was causing on Arthur and John and Dutch believed him. All the heat you have the entire game is due to Micah informing their every move to try to eliminate everyone and keep the Blackwater score to himself.
It's nice to imagine that Dutch would do that for Arthur. He said he'd walk into the fires of hell if he knew Arthur was covering him, so I'd like to believe that he had a singular love and respect for Arthur Morgan.
True that
son, dutch raised arthur so he saved him
When did he say that
@@los_muertos_motorclub he said it when they were riding to the meeting point in the mission "Blessed are the Peacemakers" - just as they were about to ride across Dewberry Creek
@@kstigerlily thank you
Crazy how dutch went to wearing a nice looking jacket, probably expensive, to a single, wore out shirt.
I think thats cus he lost everything he cared about, so he didnt give a shit about money or expensive stuff, besides he's spent time hiding from the law until 1911
Yeah he was filthy and on the run from the army for years at that point
i feel like it also shows how his facade of being put together and always one step ahead isn’t real. even when he did wear nice clothes, he would wear the same outfit nearly everytime you saw him, apart from some specific missions or sections (like the intro where he has a big coat). that shows how shallow he actually is and how he’s constantly trying to keep up appearances because he doesn’t actually have anything to back those appearances up. once the gang falls apart and dutch is on the run, he has no one to impress with his fancy outfit and therefore wears the bare minimum. just my thoughts
Times change. The Wild West is gone for Dutch now.
I'm sad
dutch finally remember his best gang member and pays him a visit.
pays
Yeah bro
I miss him
I think despite being a huge douche that Dutch has become, he would've def visited Arthur's grave if he knew where it was. Now I wonder how Mary found Arthur's grave.
Lan yine fathi gürses LAN neyse knk aferin ilk defa benim gibi Red Dead Redemption 2 den anlayan birisini buldum, helal
Micah told Dutch what he wanted to hear Arthur told Dutch what he needed to hear
The best
💯💯
@@Sumire_Sama2🗣️🗣️
On reddit when Benjamin Bryon Davis was asked if Dutch would visit the graves of fallen comrades like Arthur, Hosea and Susan (assuming he knew where they wear buried and could evade the law) he said it’s unlikely because doing so would be a reminder of his failure and thats not something he wants to dwell upon more than he must.
He also said that his thoughts are not canon and that’s just what he believes and what we believe is just as valid as his.
Thanks for the heads up
I'd like to think that he won't but he would love to...
@@Bervik Normally I would go with what the actor has to say because they know their character better than anyone but I don't know here. I keep thinking he wouldn't because that would bring so much pain but I also keep thinking he would because he wants to apologise to Arthur and Hosea for not listening and apologies to Susan for siding with the man who shot her and killed her.
What if thats why he killed micah? Cuz micah was the one to make things worse for their gang back then, and he prob didnt want it to happen again
@@Nick-ig7qd Dutch is such a complex character that it's hard to tell. For all we know he could have been there to steal Micah's gang and when John ruined that opportunity he bluffed his way out.
Micah's voice actor did an awesome job. his performance is one of the best ever.
He definitely did
And Peter is fricking awesome in real life too🥺🥺
Micah and Sadie are my 2 most favourite non-playable characters.
@Khinlop eyyyy fellow Micah enthusiasts 😉👉👉
when the villain is so good even his voice actor hates him:
If this were to happen at some point prior to RDR1, I’d imagine it would be like this. I don’t think Dutch would attempt to apologize at Arthur’s grave, nor do I think he would try to justify his actions to a ghost that saw Dutch for who he was. I believe Dutch would simply stare at the grave and contemplate the sad reality that everything his did-everything he represented-was meaningless and he’s ultimately lost. He lost Arthur, lost Hosea, lost his gang, lost his dreams, even lost himself. I don’t think Dutch has the character to ever admit that fact to himself, but if he were to visit Arthur’s grave it would give him pause to reflect. But that’s all it would be, a pause. Dutch would eventually walk away from the grave of his son and not look back continuing down his own path of self-destruction.
Would make a great opening scene for RD3!
I think the closest he could admit it was at his death. He put his gun away, and accepted his demise, all to do his best attempt (didn’t say good attempt, just his best) to warn John, that as soon as he was dead, the wolves would be looking for new meat. Likely would be his meat. That John needed to be ready for when that happened.
John was so hurt though, from the destruction that Dutch’s ‘plans’ had caused, he didn’t heed his warnings. He went back, and chose to believe he was safe. We all know how that ended.
Well put
@@abelskeeper269 dutch dies in rdr1 sir
@@abelskeeper269 I doubt Rockstar is gonna make a rdr3 for a LONGGG time , seeing that Rdr2 is a Masterpiece that they sadly haven't done much with (Online/Dlc wise). Also rdr3 would have to be a completely different story line with different characters since this one is finished now that we have the prequel.
The moment Arthur said to Dutch "I gave you all I had, I really did", that line broke my heart because he had done so much for him. Done crazy things. Killed a lot of people. Tried to show him how bad Micah was. I remember when I finished this game i cried for 3 days and could not touch it for 2 weeks. This game will always be one of the greatest master pieces ❤🥺🧡
This game truly is a masterpiece I cried when my horse died and I cried everytime the game reminded me of Arthur. Truly is the best game to date
@@balllicker942 I can only agree on that one. It is so realistic so you feel like you truly are a part of it all 😭😭
Превосходно, что ютуб позволяет переводить текст, и я из России, не зная Английского языка, могу читать эти комментарии!
@@user-ff4ky2ff1w agreed!! It’s been amazing fun watching old videos again, but being able to see what any foreign comment says 😁 I missed out on so much!
@@Norinia например у нас в России только недавно вышла PlayStation 5 и их очень мало, поэтому у меня пока PlayStation 4 pro и я не видел ни одной более детально проработанной игры из тех что тянет моя консоль
The fact that arthur even held back from coughing in micahs face so Micah wouldn’t get TB
He was a good man...in that part of the game at least
He was the best outlaw and video game character I ever did see
I would’ve coughed and spat into Micah’s mouth to give him the same disease he mocked Arthur for.
David Cheney i would have done the same thing then called him black lung as well
Undeniably would’ve done that just to make sure Micah contracted TB, but would definitely consider doing it to Herr Strauss as well. Only because it was him who sent Arthur to get the payment, even if it was unintentional.
Shooting Micah was the most satisfying thing ever i loved this game so much
Why loved story mode has not a thing to do with online
@@livingwithghost372 what? I had a stroke reading that shit.
@@arizonaranger2333 hes asking why he loved story mode since it doesnt have anything to do with online mode
@@Axolotl720 oh thanks I legitimately didn’t understand what they were trying to say.
Only if arthur done it way before
Dutch visits Arthur's grave
Arthur from grave:- uh oh dutch is thinking this can't be good
😯
Dutch: leaves well fuck you then
Something is wrong with me because I literally just thought *Dutch coming up with a plan while looking at the grave to turn Arthur into an undead cowboy then getting his idea stolen by a Rockstar employee from the future and the past who then creates Undead Nightmare years before any of this happened*
Edit: I think I need to sleep goodnight fellow gamer
@@daddyoregano1001 makes sense actually considering the undead nightmare Braithwaite namedrop
I got a Plan Arthur
Playing rd1 i loved marston.
Arthur grew on me. Its a shame he died.
Now i want to see another prequel for more arthur morgan.
They could totally do it, base it on how the gang got together and the path that led them to leaving Blackwater...It would allow them to add a few more characters that we didnt meet because they died running to the mountains as well as expound on Aurthurs past. The game could be great....We all know how it ends....The Pinkerstons chasing them as they ride hard out of town, with the mountains in the background....The fun part would be filling in the middle as you would pretty much have a blank sheet of paper
@@adamdavis2760 i would buy it in a heart beat.
@@adamdavis2760 they have tons of material they have already set up... the early gang, Arthur coming to his role as enforcer, his relationship with Mary Linton etc
@@Wilantonjakov exactly do it almost be dumb not to do this the game has enough fans so it's a guaranteed him not to mention the online play and the money they can make doing that. I think it's stupid it's like throwing away free money not making that game
@@unstablenecrophage278 as would I, they need to make that game. I mean why wouldn't you? That mixed with the expansion of all the weapons and online play. One thing I would do is have a couple game modes where you could play as Arthur, Dutch, Charles or John and obviously that would change the side missions for each individual player because their lives are different but the main game missions would be the same. It gives you playability over and over again.
You know another sad detail? The Count which was Dutch’s horse that was another thing that loved and cared for Dutch died too. It was a horse that would only let Dutch ride him and would kick off anyone else that tried
And It was a white Arabian. White signifies purity, and goodness.
When do you get to know that
@@ronaldmcdonalds1398 I believe it's up in Colter when you're hunting with Charles Arthur tells him that he tryed to ride him once and wouldnt take anyone but Dutch
@@Sargasm1993 thx sm ill pay more attention colter wasnt really on my likeness so
@@arielvega6344 in some ways
Arthur Morgan: our time has pretty much passed
Dutch: our time is passed, John
Me father was ill with cancer. I stood by his side and said to him, “you gave me all you had, you did.” He replied, “yup yup” then he took his last breath. There’s a bit of Arthur in all of us I guess. I just hope I made him proud.
Last word is yup yup 😢😢😢
Yes, I pray for you
😂😂😂this fucking guy😂😂
You know whats better than playing this game at ultra settings...
EXACTLY watching Micah die and getting obliterated AND getting shot by John in 4k
🔥
Susan Grimshaw is an incredible woman. I remember a random chitchat with Tilly in camp where Tilly wanted to poison Miss Grimshaw because of her rules, but Susan was doing this to keep everyone safe and maintain cohesion, and I almost dropped a tear when Susan was the first to brave the Jackson brothers to save Tilly. Truly a great woman. Tilly was so thankful for Susan, I guess she regretted wanting to kill Susan. RIP Susan Grimshaw.
Yeah and rockstar didn't give her a logical death. No one batted an eye when she got shot. R* made many mistakes.
"No. YOU be quiet, Mr. BELL."
Still gives me chills. Rest in peace, Ms. Grimshaw.
@father3dollarbill They didn't have time if anyone moved they would cause a shootout in the gang, and then the pinkertons start coming after them. Plus at this point Dutch is with Micah.
I’m sad that Lenny died but I’m also happy he didn’t have to experience Arthur’s death, Lenny and Arthur was best buds and it probably would’ve been the worst for Lenny.
I have a theory about Dutch being with Micah at the end. I think Dutch only joined with Micah recently, and only to kill Micah. It explains why Dutch says "Same as you" to John when John asks why Dutch is there. It also explains why Micah says "All manner of folk paying social calls," followed by Dutch. Makes more sense when you think about how Dutch ran away from Micah after Arthur dies, which shows that Dutch and Micah weren't together during the time jump before the epilogue.
It just made me realize how heart breaking it would’ve been if the gang was all together near the end and went their separate ways, John is forced to work for the Pinkertons and have to apprehend his former gang, would’ve hurt if he went after the ones who died Arthur, Hosea, Lenny and etc.
True
@Schoby Arthur would’ve killed John for being a rat
@@Dan-sc5jj John was never a rat lmao
The Pinkertons only found John because he went after Micah to avenge Arthur, but if the others had been alive that probably wouldn't have happened, and John wouldn't have had to hunt down anyone.
@@cm-nk4li he wasn’t by choice. But he had to kill former gang members and in the end he became a rat and died a tied up loose end for the bureau
I have played this game MANY MANY times and after the first time I could never finish the ending. Just couldn’t handle watching him die. The hero isn’t suppose to die !! Still the most realistic game I have yet to play. Heart touching.
Exactly, I'm the same way. I got spoiled by the ending the first time I play it when I reached chapter 6 nearing the ending and after that I just kept playing whatever activities through chapter 4 where the gang are happy and together. Can't handle seeing the gang fall apart and my hero dying. This game hits hard to the heart.
Same here! That scene where he says goodbye to the ladies and Arthur's song plays...That just breaks my heart! Best, most saddest end to a character ever.
In this case you should never watch "The Great Silence", great movie though and imo also an inspiration for RDR2 in some way
Well I love RDR because there are no heroes, Arthur was good but not a hero, not even John, they're killers and thieves. That's not something a hero would do so I like to think of them as anti heroes. Like Hosea said in a camp event "we're good people doing bad stuff"
i just finished playing RDR2 and sadly i was very disappointed with the ending of this game! I found the first 4 chapters sensational! then from the 5th chapter onwards I totally lost interest. I wanted to kill Dutch from the beginning. insufferable and obnoxious character! unfortunately in the end Dutch survives!
The bit that always gets me is the look of pure regret and genuine sadness on Dutch's face as he stops Arthur from shooting micah which shows the realization of who his son really is.
Despite everything he has done in 1911 he has a small feeling of regret but it’s too late for that now
Kind of
Imagine if Dutch's death scene in the first game happened on the cliff where Arthur is buried. I know that Arthur wasn't thought of in RDR1, but just imagine how cool it would be. Dutch jumps off the cliff, right beside his old "friend" Arthur...
Or John shoots him and he falls right near Arthur
Or the cliff where Arthur died
Are that mountain even in RDR2?
@@privateerbouncher9622 No, it's inaccessible in RDR2
@@privateerbouncher9622are you a fool?
Not seen this clip in a while but the “what are you doing here Dutch/same as you I suppose“ now looks very different to me. Dutch is telling John he’s here to kill Micah.
Makes sense
Thats right he was there to kill Micah. "Dutch and i, Teaming up once more" Also suggests Dutch had tracked him down abit prior to this cutscene having not seen him since Arthurs death. I guess Dutch needed time to come to terms with his failure
@@insomecc I read a theory somewhere that maybe Micah was the first to be hired by the government to try and take down the gang before John. In the end credits scene Agent Ross is seen visiting the site of Micah's death
@@LieutenantButtonMasher yeah Micha was a rat since Tahiti/ Guarma, he got picked up by Pinkertons
Even though you could barely see it when Arthur talks to dutch when hes bout to die you could see the pain and regret in Dutch eyes
I still don’t understand why Dutch still sided with Micah after he shot ms Grimshaw in front of all of them, like in that moment it wasn’t Arthur vs Micah he had to side for, it was Arthur, and Grimshaw two people he’d known for years, the OG’s, two out of 5 of the original bunch (Dutch, Hosea, Arthur, John, Grimshaw) VS. Micah, joe and cleet, 2 of which he’d known only a few weeks, if at all actually got to KNOW, and Micah who he’d only known a few months, and here he just gutshot one of dutches oldest friends who might I add Dutch had no prior worries of loyalty over, not like he felt for Arthur because where as Arthur questioned Dutch’s actions (albeit warranted) ms Grimshaw hadn’t even once, and yet tf, he didn’t even look to help her, he just let her writhe on the ground till she died.
i always felt ms grimshaw’s death was just glossed over lol, i understand why Arthur didn’t react because he had to keep his eyes on micah, but nonetheless it didn’t seem like it bothered anyone :/
@@hue59 they were in conflict. Arthur just turned against the gang, John revealed he was alive, the Pinkertons invaded the camp, and before they could process it they were chased up a mountain where Arthur's horse died and John had to leave for his family while Micah fought Arthur lower on the mountain while Arthur was sick and then Dutch came up there so Arthur could make his final statement to Dutch before dying. There wasn't much time to grieve over Grimshaw. And though she did care about them, she would often to act very mean to the certain portion of the gang so they might not like her as much as the orignal ones of the gang who had died so it makes sense why it was glossed. Plus it has been a few years since it happened.
I suspect that Dutch would have sided with Arthur or even with no one, but he didn't just because John appeared at the critical moment.
@@channel45853 true, guess there was just too much happening
That's because Dutch doesn't give a shit to anyone but himself. All the "things he have done" was to benefit himself and not the others. That's why he didn't react to any of that deaths
At Arthurs grave
John: What are you doing here Dutch?
Dutch: The same as you, I suppose.
The worst mistake of dutch is that he wears a skin colored shirt
I honestly thought he had no shirt on for the longest time 😂
@@gabrielt.c same
@@gabrielt.c same
It took me many videos of him to see it was a shirt
I like to imagine before the events of the first Red Dead game Dutch found where Arthur was buried and paid him a visit and told him how he was sorry for what he had done because Arthur was right about everything
True that
Dutch: “you betrayed me”
No one betrayed you, Dutch!!! It is you who betrayed yourself and the rest of the gang.
I went back to colter (the snow gang camp) as John and I heard John say"now you can see what's left of me" that scared the crap out of me plus I was playing at night
Yup, you’ll hear different lines from each of the old camps.
Man, this made me cry. I know the relationship between Dutch and Arthur wasn’t perfect, but it felt so real to me. Even in that final moment at the top of the cliff, it felt genuine.
Amongst all the things that went down during the final chapter, watching Dutch and Arthur fall apart was the most painful of them all.
It was like a father son / brothers relation
@@IndoJordy In the Horseshoe Overlook camp Horsea told by the campfire that he trust Dutch 'cause he is real, crazy but real.
But Micah destroyed that bond.
Amen. I just recently completed it again and playing another round now tired of online play I wrecken the new missions are fun but damnit the story is just amazing I play it for few hours n switch to mafia 3 sometimes I play 1st red dead redemption
As soon as I stated rdr2 i immediately loved their dynamic and I just never expected him to betray Arthur
Dutch's voice actor is actually incredible. Everyone in these games did an amazing job but something about the emotion in Dutch's voice gets me every time.
Why say "actually", like it's a surprise?
Arthur is one of the most impactful characters of all time. They hit it out of the park with John in RDR and did the impossible again with Arthur.
At 0:24 Micah unfastens his gun strap to fire. And Dutch says He's there for the same reason as them, but Micah didn't notice. They are their to kill Micah. So that means he's bidding his time for the opportunity which they provided.
If the gang was just: Hosea, Arthur, Charles, John, Lenny, Sean, Pearson, and the girls, things would have been completely different.
Honestly you could add Javier to that list. The game showed he did care about John, Arthur and the others. Unfortunately he choose his loyalty to dutch
I liked Kieran, Jack, and Uncle too. Uncle might’ve been a bit lazy but he cared enough to die protecting John’s family, even with his debilitating condition holding him back. Plus he’s got the best stories. Maybe Dutch as well, prior to Micah joining. The dialogue gave reason to believe that Micah was like his corrupt Jimmony Cricket.
@@tomgarnoti5609 uncle is not lazy. He's old
It wouldn't be a gang without Dutch. He was a leader for a reason after all.
I think a part of Dutch really did see Arthur and John as family, and Micah did what he did best, manipulate people. Dutch was manipulated, along with people doubting him, and the pain of all of their problems. Dutch DID care for John and Arthur, but his trust was broken by Micah, plus Arthur’s doubts.
Dutch still had the count after 12 years
I cried when Arthur died even though his just a fictional character he looks so real😦😦😦😦
Didn't we all?
Shit I was sad for a good while.
Surprisingly I only teared up when he died but when a side mission character died ( Hamish Sinclair) I cried just because of how he died and he was really cool
I just shed a tear
He is real :D google for his actor
oh you're so talented. All those flashbacks Dutch has looking over Arthur's grave were so heartbreaking. No wonder Dutch almost got a cancer just thinking about all the failures he made over the years, including losing Arthur as arguably the biggest. Great video and keep them coming!
Nice pfp
@@doof5732 so they keep telling me haha
what a lot of people failed to realize was that dutch while on the cliff realized his wrong doings and walked away, he only joined back with micah to get the gold or kill micah. or maybe even both
Damn this breaks my heart, truly does, well done, the writers did a good job. Also the person who edited this, thank you so much because you've done a fantastic job.
dutch: forgive me son...my great arthur...
me: YOU ARE NOT WORTHY TO SAY HIS NAME
Neither are you
Cringe
Dutch's real crime was wearing a skin colored shirt
Micah was like "guess I'll die"
Not like he just got shot to shreds and his insides were nothing but mush but yeah
Dutch at Arthur grave :- get up Arthur i got a plan
Arthur: ah shit , here we go again ( mario soundtrack)
Truly amazing character. He’s so real
Arthur Morgan is the biggest legend in RDR. One
Of the best characters in gaming history ever actually.
When I played this part Micah got 2 rounds to the chest 1 to the face 3 in the junk
Dutch being on the mountain was one of the few major plot points i didnt know about. It scared the hell out of me, which really shows how great the storytelling is.
I firmly believe that Dutch was scared of failiure which is the reason why Dutch was aginst Arthur because he was doubting him amd siding with him would be him admitting that hes wrong and he doesnt want that so he sides with Micah who supportes his ideas. I also believe that he knew that Arthur wasnt the Rat and knew it was Micah but he was to ashamed to admit it
The worst decision in the entire game was Arthur's... when Mary Linton asked him to run away with her and never look back…💔
Never have I been so invested in a game like I was playing the RDR2 Story. There are no words to describe how well made everything on this game is.
Fo real bro
Nice great work, I love the rdr 1 soundtrack choice.
Thanks bro
Honestly this is the most perfect video of Dutch's flashback yet. And I also wonder if Dutch knows where Arthur is buried at.
Dutch is a confused man. I trusted long ago because he was a best leader in the gang, cares about his family, and never leaves anyone behind. But that all change in the end, when he sided with Micha. Trust must be earned, but Dutch lost it because his mentality wasn't right, and look what he did, he lost few of his close friends, a family, a son that he left him for dead, and letting Arthur die.
Dutch: I should of had trusted Arthur what’s wrong with me I’m a selfish fool
Hosea's death is what broke Dutch and finding out Arthur was sick made him worse you can see a picture of all 3 of them when they were young together at Arthurs tent they were closest to him
If you think about it, Dutch is responsible for Arthur’s death. Dutch welcomed Strauss and relocated the gang to Horseshoe Overlook, near Valentine. That’s where Strauss lent money to Mr. Thomas Downes, Strauss had Arthur collect all his due payments and lent money from his clients, if Dutch had relocated further away or not welcomed new gang members, then Arthur would’ve never had to collect Mr. Downes’ debt in ‘Money Lending And Other Sins’ therefore would’ve never contracted Tuberculosis off of Thomas. And also would have never died. Dutch could’ve prevented several other gang members deaths, like not becoming deputies in Rhodes, Sean would’ve lived, not decided to rob Saint Denis after several already unsuccessful robberies in recent time, Hosea and Lenny would’ve lived. If he hadn’t done any of that, it would’ve been a lot different. Someone said they met Seans voice actor and he told them he picked Arthur 101%, Swanson, Trelawny, Sean, Hosea, Lenny, Ms Grimshaw, Karen, Mary Beth, Tilly, Abigail and John all chose Arthur, that would’ve surely outnumbered the rest. But that would certainly be a completely different story.
It’s so sad how all of his allies died
Arthur is my favorite character in the game I like john Marston too those too are more badass characters😍👍🏻
The way Arthur is not mentioned in the first game kinda makes it a bit hollow, after watching this, it really ties it all in. Great video.
I can't believe all the characters who died were the characters I liked 😭. We all know if they were still alive they would of took Arthur side and dutch would of been outnumbered
What about reverend, and Josiah
You should do one where 1911 Dutch visits Hoseas grave and Lenny's since it's next to his
Is cool as well
Micah looks around like "guess I'll die."
part of being a great general and leader is the ability to put your ego aside and take the advice of your most trusted captains and advisors. dutch was unable to do that, and on several occasions could have escaped, but it costs everyone their life.
Well, I always liked Dutch. He was not just another angry outlaw... unlike Micah.
Anyone else notice how similar RDR2’s story is to Berserk. Dutch is like Griffith taking in all those who were lost and Arthur is like Guts going through the ultimate betrayal as he watched all his friends he knew for so long get thrown away like trash. Then John is sorta like the vengeful version of Guts in RDR1, hunting down the man who ruined his life and so many others.
Dutch should’ve listened to hosea in chapter 1 and non of this would have happened
Dutch for me is such a tragic character, after everything he keep on fighting because he had no other reason to live. He knew, at the cost of losing everything, he can't change the system
I love how the most replayed part is Micah dying
Imagine taking the side of a random guy you met at a bar over someone you raised since he was a child.
Love when Dutch says to John that he is here to do the same thing he is and Mikah thinks he means joining up so he offers John to join them.
Damn that sceene mayde me cry for ages. I have never seen such an heartbreaking videogame death like Arthurs. It still hurts
I can’t get over how Dutch just shoots Micah and walks away 😂
Great video!
I still get sad when I think about Arthur’s painful life, what he had to go thru and his miserable death. This is by far my favorite game and no other game or character will ever top this.
0:32 is my dad coming back home when he figures out I win the lottery.
This video is so well made. Amount of times I’ve watched it is unhealthy.
(Continuity wise) I love how Dutch makes no mention of Arthur or Hosea in RDR1, it shows how they were just faded memories to him at that point by 1911. He simply chose to forget his old gang.
@Vesuvius. you clearly did not read my comment did you?
@Vesuvius. I said continuity wise!
@Vesuvius. Well can't I just write down my reasoning?
@@iceman1287 I don't think they understand what continuity means lol
@@aarjo8258 I said it wrong lol, I should've said "canon wise".
Great video for a showcase, really adds to Dutch's character
Watching the slow decent Dutch goes down throughout the game is sad. Seeing how close him, Hosea and Arthur were. The fishing trip is one of my favorite missions. Then there's little race that Arthur and Dutch have. Hell even the moment Arthur gives Dutch the pipe he found in that cabin. Then Hosea dies, and Dutch's decent into madness just gets quicker, and scarier. Then he's suddenly shooting at two men he used to call his sons. After playing the second game, seeing who Dutch was. It's hard to believe the Dutch in the first game is the same man.
I have watched my brother descend into madness....over that last 5 years. He's 49 now. Before that I looked up to him. He was like a true Paladin. Lived a good life,helped others, built a life any man would have been proud of.
Then it all changed. He's now sitting in jail looking at life in prison. Long story....not something to go into here.
I guess Two face was right in Batman The Dark Knight.....
"You either die a hero or live king enough to see yourself become a villain"
This has changed my life profoundly.....
Yes, he deserves whatever punishment society deems fit in his upcoming trial.
6:15 arthur turns his head away from micah so he won't cough and give his TB to him
John marston is one of the best characters ever. Too real in RDR1
ARTHUR'S BEEN DEAD ALONG TIME THIS IS A NEW CENTURY
ME: SHUUUUUT UUUUP
I sometimes dream that, what if Dutch camped the same place where Arthur died and when John chase him they went the same place where Arthur died or where he buried.
But I think that will never happened because John wants to forget the past and Dutch went crazy and the biggest thing that made him crazier is because of Arthur and Hosea and specially Arthur I think
Dutch finally realizes Micah was the rat but knowing the gang is gone its probably little too late for redemption 😢 He trust nobody no more & just by himself
It sucks that Arthur had to die. But, it’s only because he wasn’t mentioned in RDR1, so they had to kill him off. It’s so sad.
The RDR saga has one of the most realistic stories ever. Dutch's breakdown was inevitable. He lost his best friend, he eventually realized that he had betrayed his own gang by being on Micah's side, he caused the gang, which was his own family, to collapse. Besides all this, he realized that Arthur was innocent and the rat was Micah all along. The law was also on his tail from all over the state. Can you imagine his mental state? Guilt, remorse, anxiety, depression, anger...
He probably continued to fight the law to avenge Hosea and the gang. I don't think his main goal in RDR 1 was money, I think he was controlled by his anger. He was all alone, he knew he was guilty, he knew he was responsible for what happened to the gang. He was depressed and suicidal so he no longer cared about money, he became totally sociopath. He finally embraced his true evil personality and became someone like Joker.
But despite being a totally villain, he didn't want to kill John even he had twice the chance: he didn't kill him in "American Venom", and in RDR 1, when they were at the top of a cliff, he dropped his gun instead of trying to shoot John and escape. Maybe John was still his "son" after all so he didn't want to do that for old time's sake.
I think his remorse was also the reason for saying the same words to John before he committed suicide what he said to the soldiers when he was with Arthur during the mission "Favored Sons" in RDR 2. He probably remembered Arthur in his final moments.
Absolutely agree. Rdr1 he was no longer a charismatic leader but just a modified colm driscoll. Just like you said bro he believe that I am doing it for arthur and Hosea by causing more chaos and destruction to the State.
I want a game with young Arthur, Hosea and Dutch before the rat came along
I wish jack marston go to Arthur grave and any players knows Arthur Is Deer for real I'm not kidding
Jack did, check it out ruclips.net/video/ru5t519a6zE/видео.html
@@IndoJordy Hey Dude please make a video where Jack Marston JR gets visited by his parents spirit's and the good members of the Van Der Linde Gang that are in Heaven with Alice Marston John Marston SR and Abigail Robert's Marston.
It's so weird hearing Micah say Arthur's been dead along time, since we were with him so long
3 years before the bloodiest war humanity has ever seen at the time.