Every single piece of advice in the clip is bad. I am a product manager and couldn't imagine myself being a stupid guy roaming around the street just because I dropped out. There is a reason why Indian parents make sure their children study extremely hard.
45% is middle class and 59% comes under poor category ,We do not have the luxury to jump and take a risk knowing that if we fall there's no safety net to protect us , we might end up lonely and broke so that's where a College degree comes in handy .I mean atleast it can give us bread and butter and we can send some money at home also .
Lots of advanced countries like Germany, Switzerland don't follow the typical education/ schooling system that was kind of imposed by the Brits in India. They have a choice of apprentice learning system that starts post high school and can go right up till master's and beyond. Pretty different fr the other prevalent edu systems across the world. Our 'Gurukul' concept was really valuable...hope it comes back in India is some format...What Nikhil is talking about in terms of skills based acceptance and callings is very much practiced in Far East countries like China, Korea and Japan and that's why they have developed so stupendously...every calling/ preofession has respect...unlike in India where our class/ jaat/ varna system came in the way....
I am in the field of education for a very long time . A hybrid of college and work will help the child to get a sense of direction and work gives the feel of real world problems and solutions !
I'm MBBS living in a tier 3 city, all my life was and still is about memorizing medical information, I am not rich or famous, and the salary is only 48 K per month, but without the degree, I wouldn't even have a job, and you can't prescribe medicine without a license, it's ILLEGAL so for ordinary people, I think degree can still be valuable to get a job and put food on the table
Dropping out of college, shows lack of resilience, an important trait of one's character. Speaking of knowledge, it has been always free. Most of the people passing out of high school, have very less idea what they actually want to pursue in life, thats where college comes in, exposing them to people from different backgrounds and values. Although I do agree that the education system in India needs a reform.
Most important thing should be that 1. Respect all professions. 2. Stop this age old culture od looking down upon a person because of their profession, caste, background wtc because of which a comples is created among those who faces these things. 3. Improve education system by improving personality of kids and inculcating moral science in them to prevent them frkm learning to cheat to pass xlasses and instead actually learn and understand what they are being taught. 3. Give kids the freedom ro choose their profession. 4. Inculcate hardwork in kids so that it becomes a paet of rheir personality. 5. work dor satisfaction not just a monthly salary
I think online education resources can never provide an environment like a college after high school. You usually meet a new set of people with very different life experiences and ambitions, and its an opportunity to learn from each other and create a conducive environment to work towards shared values.
Considering an individual with a background where his family income is 50k - 1lac , there are 4 members in a family and he does not have the immediate need to support his family . For him getting a degree is the 1st best option however only college should never be preferred . He should work during his college life as he will understand the game of figuring out . Since entire game of working is figuring out the solution
Nikhil..why don't you start like an open university. A university that has only labs, no typical classrooms, everything online, only conducts exams, which a person can give how many ever times, and trading would be points based. Every activity caries points. Competitions have most points. In simple words, Desi Dyson Institute
Great video.Tara made some wonderful points and so did Nikhil.Wonderful pulsating discussion and this is exactly the type of nourishment my brain needs.Been consuming a lot of crap content of late.So glad I found this channel. For me,Iam an experiential learner or need a simulation of an experience to learn something.Just by reading words of a textbook isn't enough for me.I find lot of these books are so poorly written and concepts so poorly defined(complex language) and students since they can't understand them resort to rote learning.You cannot educate an entire generation of students using words alone.Gotta give them more than that.
Anyone who says "Drop out of college", drop em out of life. Why? Its not that you'll get everything in a college but you get to meet with ppl (friends and faculty) who have better skills than you and provided you have a zest to learn new thing you will get better opportunities with your network and skills both.
You can never really comment on the value of going to college until you actually go there and experience it, I would say the same is the case for the opposite, those who went to college can never really know what it means to make it without any formal education
very enlightening. Not sure if Nikhil will read this but I just have a counter question, if we train kids not aware of these aspects of the real world, like Competition, dealing with deadlines, pushing your comfort zones etc Wont it be very hard for them to deal with the world when they come out do do or start something on their own?
Schools and colleges have protocols and systems. It is not as bad as it may sound in above discussion. There may be a few who can excel without traditional education. However, not everyone possesses the risk-taking, strategic, innovative skills like the Kamath brothers. Competition has produced brilliant talents in India. The education system needs to evolve and is evolving at a faster rate. There's a need for more schools that focus on trades like carpentry, electrical work, and agriculture. I believe it would be great if the Kamath brothers could contribute more in this direction. Instead of starting random businesses without experience and proper mentorship, we might not be learning in the most effective way.
Education was always free, all you needed was a library pass. The conformity of college gives you the focus to do it. Education in India surely needs a reform, coming from someone who did a bachelors in India and a masters abroad.
What these people from Tier 1 cities would never call out is the glaring inefficiencies of our Ministry of Education. Because that takes balls and staking your head in to have a real conversation and push the needle on reform. This is just a nukkad-level conversations about reform...Doesn't deserve views, imo.
Hi sir I have an idea for developing skills sets among students and young people like me which is to teach them finance carpeting plumbing electrical knowledge and all highly required skill which are in demand rather than bookish knowledge
We should start this from tier 1 city we can teach them agriculture cooking banking system and basic functions of bank it could be a good start-up idea
We can take top ten skill sets required and let the students try each and decide which is suited for them I have. Heard some foreign college is teaching how to be an influencer so there are no limits to this and can challenge traditional education system in a good way
i believe there is need to reform in education system and our as a society we need to make it normal like if someone scoring less marks its okay ..................but education is the only way for large chunk of audience to come out from poverty living in tier 3 or rural india .....as of today ..........ofcourse there is need of awarness that skill matters more ....
College degree is important just work or learn while working on side for poor and middle class the risk if it fails will be the end of you get atleast graduation thats it
Tara was a poor choice for this round. Her contribution was near zero- just interrupting others by saying “yah”.. and sitting there acting like she is interested.
Very Nice. I was against this typical schooling practices, where one is measured on memorising abilities. This video gives me a strong base to put forth my idea to my wife :-)
well all discussion are being done on the changing the education systems but not being discussed why there is such rat race for scoring ?/ for middle class answer is JOB !! financial security !! if we want some how skill based society and not rating based than companies who are generating Jobs should stop hiring the degrees and rating based candidates and only on based on Skills...but again question how you evaluate one's skill set ?
Do we necessarily need a degree or we can gain much more knowledge from online courses and internships n just get a job early and then learn and grow from experience
In my view, there must be better way of handling thise students who are not much interested in study, and more focus and attention to be given on making them good citizens, may be global citizens
Every single piece of advice in the clip is bad. I am a product manager and couldn't imagine myself being a stupid guy roaming around the street just because I dropped out. There is a reason why Indian parents make sure their children study extremely hard.
Yeah because we cannot afford the risk of failing failure is end for us
45% is middle class and 59% comes under poor category ,We do not have the luxury to jump and take a risk knowing that if we fall there's no safety net to protect us , we might end up lonely and broke so that's where a College degree comes in handy .I mean atleast it can give us bread and butter and we can send some money at home also .
Do you really think it can give you bread and butter.
Absolutely true
@@sayanbiswas_sports yes it can
105%?
@@boringmemes5718💀
Lots of advanced countries like Germany, Switzerland don't follow the typical education/ schooling system that was kind of imposed by the Brits in India. They have a choice of apprentice learning system that starts post high school and can go right up till master's and beyond. Pretty different fr the other prevalent edu systems across the world. Our 'Gurukul' concept was really valuable...hope it comes back in India is some format...What Nikhil is talking about in terms of skills based acceptance and callings is very much practiced in Far East countries like China, Korea and Japan and that's why they have developed so stupendously...every calling/ preofession has respect...unlike in India where our class/ jaat/ varna system came in the way....
I am in the field of education for a very long time . A hybrid of college and work will help the child to get a sense of direction and work gives the feel of real world problems and solutions !
I'm MBBS living in a tier 3 city, all my life was and still is about memorizing medical information, I am not rich or famous, and the salary is only 48 K per month, but without the degree, I wouldn't even have a job, and you can't prescribe medicine without a license, it's ILLEGAL so for ordinary people, I think degree can still be valuable to get a job and put food on the table
yes absolutely, I mean billionaire advising poor people is basically useless
@@alrightjaihere YES
@@Ari_diwan and looking at them, i prefer to be poor all my life.
Dropping out of college, shows lack of resilience, an important trait of one's character.
Speaking of knowledge, it has been always free.
Most of the people passing out of high school, have very less idea what they actually want to pursue in life, thats where college comes in, exposing them to people from different backgrounds and values.
Although I do agree that the education system in India needs a reform.
Most important thing should be that
1. Respect all professions.
2. Stop this age old culture od looking down upon a person because of their profession, caste, background wtc because of which a comples is created among those who faces these things.
3. Improve education system by improving personality of kids and inculcating moral science in them to prevent them frkm learning to cheat to pass xlasses and instead actually learn and understand what they are being taught.
3. Give kids the freedom ro choose their profession.
4. Inculcate hardwork in kids so that it becomes a paet of rheir personality.
5. work dor satisfaction not just a monthly salary
I think online education resources can never provide an environment like a college after high school. You usually meet a new set of people with very different life experiences and ambitions, and its an opportunity to learn from each other and create a conducive environment to work towards shared values.
I am still finding the role of two ladies sitting next to them.
Considering an individual with a background where his family income is 50k - 1lac , there are 4 members in a family and he does not have the immediate need to support his family . For him getting a degree is the 1st best option however only college should never be preferred . He should work during his college life as he will understand the game of figuring out . Since entire game of working is figuring out the solution
Nikhil..why don't you start like an open university. A university that has only labs, no typical classrooms, everything online, only conducts exams, which a person can give how many ever times, and trading would be points based. Every activity caries points. Competitions have most points. In simple words, Desi Dyson Institute
Great video.Tara made some wonderful points and so did Nikhil.Wonderful pulsating discussion and this is exactly the type of nourishment my brain needs.Been consuming a lot of crap content of late.So glad I found this channel.
For me,Iam an experiential learner or need a simulation of an experience to learn something.Just by reading words of a textbook isn't enough for me.I find lot of these books are so poorly written and concepts so poorly defined(complex language) and students since they can't understand them resort to rote learning.You cannot educate an entire generation of students using words alone.Gotta give them more than that.
Anyone who says "Drop out of college", drop em out of life. Why? Its not that you'll get everything in a college but you get to meet with ppl (friends and faculty) who have better skills than you and provided you have a zest to learn new thing you will get better opportunities with your network and skills both.
True, if the student has little interest in what he is studying otherwise it is just a waste of life
disagree why is only 5% of the population super successful because that 5% are the only people that have the guts to not conform
Understanding and memorising are 2 different things.
Our current education system is based on memorising skills.
Nikhil's points are very logical and true in this one
You can never really comment on the value of going to college until you actually go there and experience it, I would say the same is the case for the opposite, those who went to college can never really know what it means to make it without any formal education
College is not totally useless or make us confomist it surely depend on individual how he utilities it
very enlightening. Not sure if Nikhil will read this but I just have a counter question, if we train kids not aware of these aspects of the real world, like Competition, dealing with deadlines, pushing your comfort zones etc Wont it be very hard for them to deal with the world when they come out do do or start something on their own?
It is not about not making them aware of competition, deadlines etc. It is making them self aware before haivng them go out and tackle the world.
Schools and colleges have protocols and systems. It is not as bad as it may sound in above discussion. There may be a few who can excel without traditional education. However, not everyone possesses the risk-taking, strategic, innovative skills like the Kamath brothers. Competition has produced brilliant talents in India. The education system needs to evolve and is evolving at a faster rate. There's a need for more schools that focus on trades like carpentry, electrical work, and agriculture. I believe it would be great if the Kamath brothers could contribute more in this direction. Instead of starting random businesses without experience and proper mentorship, we might not be learning in the most effective way.
Education was always free, all you needed was a library pass. The conformity of college gives you the focus to do it.
Education in India surely needs a reform, coming from someone who did a bachelors in India and a masters abroad.
What these people from Tier 1 cities would never call out is the glaring inefficiencies of our Ministry of Education. Because that takes balls and staking your head in to have a real conversation and push the needle on reform. This is just a nukkad-level conversations about reform...Doesn't deserve views, imo.
Hi sir I have an idea for developing skills sets among students and young people like me which is to teach them finance carpeting plumbing electrical knowledge and all highly required skill which are in demand rather than bookish knowledge
We should start this from tier 1 city we can teach them agriculture cooking banking system and basic functions of bank it could be a good start-up idea
Nursing Is in high demand in foreign countries and pays well and there are more skill sets that traditional school donot teach which we could
We can take top ten skill sets required and let the students try each and decide which is suited for them I have. Heard some foreign college is teaching how to be an influencer so there are no limits to this and can challenge traditional education system in a good way
i believe there is need to reform in education system and our as a society we need to make it normal like if someone scoring less marks its okay ..................but education is the only way for large chunk of audience to come out from poverty living in tier 3 or rural india .....as of today ..........ofcourse there is need of awarness that skill matters more ....
College degree is important just work or learn while working on side for poor and middle class the risk if it fails will be the end of you get atleast graduation thats it
Tara was a poor choice for this round. Her contribution was near zero- just interrupting others by saying “yah”.. and sitting there acting like she is interested.
Very Nice.
I was against this typical schooling practices, where one is measured on memorising abilities.
This video gives me a strong base to put forth my idea to my wife :-)
well all discussion are being done on the changing the education systems but not being discussed why there is such rat race for scoring ?/ for middle class answer is JOB !! financial security !! if we want some how skill based society and not rating based than companies who are generating Jobs should stop hiring the degrees and rating based candidates and only on based on Skills...but again question how you evaluate one's skill set ?
Hiring should start based on skills instead of degree.
Pls make a video if college is really important
There is a mismatch in audio and video, lip sync...
Well if it just a conversation of degree you can purchase a degree if you have connections
Here I am questioning in common section 1. what are the changes do you want in our education system?
Plz reply ❤
To remove assignments.
😂😂
Do we necessarily need a degree or we can gain much more knowledge from online courses and internships n just get a job early and then learn and grow from experience
In my view, there must be better way of handling thise students who are not much interested in study, and more focus and attention to be given on making them good citizens, may be global citizens
Am I the only one who thinks this Zepto guy Aadit is asking stupid questions in this video? 😩
Dyscalculia😂 what a fancy way to hide your disinterest in math
Interesting clip
Itna samajh aagaya ki mast english me koi bhi baat bolo.. 😅... Public sunti hai😂
These points are really worthless as far as >90% of the country is concerned
Why these guys don't converse in hindi......videsi degree education leke khudko bahut gyanii samjte hai kya......😡😡😡.
Navya is a good listener