EDIT #4: OKAY HUNTER GUIDE IS LIVE! ruclips.net/video/e92tjP-87YQ/видео.html EDIT #3: Here's the Gunner Guide referenced: ruclips.net/video/xfi7p1T3iCI/видео.html Sorry for the delays to the Hunter Guide! The goal is to have it fully dropped Wednesday (assuming no server lag by that point). Thank you all for the support you've given every single one of you and I hope you're all have a great time in New Genesis! EDIT #1: Also forgot to do a Tl;dr of my content: I make short guides cause I hate 20min+ long guides/information as an MMO player. So I wanna keep making short guides/news/reviews so you can go back to playing the game rather than watch a video! Thank you for the support everyone! EDIT #2: It was pointed out in a comment and I forgot to mention it here (it is mentioned in the Gunner Guide itself). Bind your weapon action to a comfortable key, like Shift (this is my binding, I've been using), so you can easily access stylish roll/onslaught/Gunner's rolling weapon action. This is a nice QoL that frees up a whole slot on your weapon pallette!
nice, and ive found if you can get a less populated block and can some how magically get a combat zone to your self (ive found 12:00am est to be the best time to do it at) the lag will be minimal!
Imo, if you're maining Gunner, you should skip spread shot since you're gonna be on TMG most of the time (Last I checked spread shot only works on Rifles). You can use the points into PP recov and overwhelm instead, which I think is better. I think NGS's subclasses are really just for the skill tree passives since most of the weapons can maintain 100% uptime which is nice.
Yup! If you have no plans for rifle usage at all on Gunner, I recommend putting those extra to points to get 10/10 PP recovery and 2/10 Overhwhelm as well. This also makes Gu's subclass pp recovery even better once you do that.
Totally new player here desperately trying to work this game out. Worried about investing in skill trees before really trying everything out, any guide like this is a god send though
No problem! Also welcome to PSO2! I hope you enjoy your stay with the game and have tons of fun! And for skill trees, honestly speaking the passives that you see at the top which are usually 0/10 points (Defeat Advantage from Fi, PP recovery from Gunner, Flash Guard from Hunter) you can pretty much ignore those and get the rest of the skill tree (1 points) to experiment. The game hands you a N-Skill Reset Pass at the very start of the game so it's not too bad! Also when we get more cocoons added (This should come in August with Braver, a katana+bow class), you won't have to worry about SP! On top of this, SEGA hands out SP reset passes anytime they make an adjustment to skills or add skills, so we'll get a guaranteed another one in winter =D. Hope your having a great time in NGS!
Ahoy! Yup FiGu is ridiculous + you can combine it with defeat enemy advantage and defeat pp advantage (forgot the name of FI's skill), for pretty much infinite PP + Ridiculous bursts on downed phases. Its realllly nuts LOL
Not sure if this has been answered. I'm now at the point where I'm torn in choosing Cattleya or Resurgir TMG's; Cattleya provides potency depending on how high health is(up to 5%). Resurgir provides 15%crit on successful dodge for 15 secs, I'd choose Resurgir, but my question is, does the TMG action skill(cartwheel) act as a dodge to proc Resurgir effect? would test this myself however I dont have the tools at my disposal.
Hi! So I don't fully have a resurgir TMG(only have sword atm, trying to get a rifle with presets) but I'm 90% sure it only triggers on side steps dodges exclusively. Luckily you only have to do it once every 30s to maintain the crit buff! Hope that answers your question! Edit: My plan atm is: Resurgir Rifle(Base), TMG+Launcher added on so i can play GuRa and RaGu
at 3:23 you said to use hunter to get acess to wired lance aerial mobilitie, but you dont need to, multi weapons can use the basic and the weapon skill without using the class itself
Yup! You can either switch to the weapon, or if you multi-weapon I would slot the wired lances' weapon action onto your palette for a faster switch (I didn't have a multiweapon TMG+WL to show off since I don't have a resurgir 4* series yet)
@@kingcarl1391 Yup! As long as the skill does not explicitly say it's mainclass only, you can use it! So Overload is possible on GuFi because you have Fi subclassed and Overload is not main class only =D
Subjective, but imo 8 attack pp recovery / 2 overwhelm is better than 9/1 - the 2nd point gives 2% instead of the 1% the rest of the points give but that's just -1% recovery on normal enemies for +1% on bosses so it really depends which you care about more (and also doesn't matter that much anyway :p)
Yup you can do that too! It's mostly preference since the extra +1% isn't really noticeable, alternatively if you don't plan on using rifle on gunner at all you could take the 2 points and make 10/10 PP recovery and 2/10 overwhelm (I might end up doing this later down the road after the winter update).
If Gunner Hunter is specifically only for wired lances and not the hunter skill tree's passives and PA's, if the only thing you want is the wired lances gap closer it's possible to multi-weapon the tmg + wired lances and you'll still gain the wired lances gap closer (weapon attack) if you don't subclass hunter. The catch is you won't gain the wired lances PA's which I don't use anyways because I'm trying to increase my chain. Subclassing fighter and having that multi-weapon would still give you the gap closer and also increased damage to downed enemies.
Interesting! Did not know that! Personally I've pretty much settled on GuRa for access to launcher, and also access to RaGu (Resurgir rifle + TMG/Launcher Multi is the plan).
I don't know if this is a dumb question, but seeing the potency of Bullet Rave, isn't it technically the most efficient way to play if you just do a charged bullet rave, spam more bullet rave until you're out of PP due to the fast multiple hits, do normal attacks to regain PP, then spam Bullet Rave again until you end the chain with a charged Bullet Rave and use the next charged Bullet Rave nearly immediately to start a new chain? I don't really understand which situations would justify using the other PAs, and while I love gunner that is kind of a turnoff for me so far. I'd love your take on when to use which PA effectively
So that's actually not a dumb question at all! On the onset, bullet rave appears to be extremely strong and you are correct, it seems that you would be spamming it 24/7. Potency values show that it is extremely high potency and everything lines up for it to be the most used PA. Now here's where everything starts flipping on it's head. So the fatal flaw to Bullet Rave is that the damage on it is COMPLETELY back loaded. This means that if you do not hit that final hit in Bullet Rave, the damage is actually incredibly low. So in theory Chain Boost with 120% attack speed would actually make this the go to move since it speeds it up. But from practicing and testing, I've found that WITH the 120% attack speed buff, if you do: Charged Point Blank/Bullet Rave to start your chain, then DUMP all your pp into UNCHARGED Point Blanks, and regen your pp via normal attacks to build it up back to 100 before ending with a charged point blank + multiple uncharged point blanks and an onslaught back to 0 pp (This damage is modfiied by Chain Trigger's Finisher damage bonus, so this hits HARD). Your DPS is actually significantly higher than spamming bullet rave alone. Point Blank has a slightly less potency on paper to Bullet Rave, however the animation for Point Blank is INCREDIBLY faster than bullet rave meaning you can PP dump and keep your DPS high by spamming this. Now since you HAVE to be within close range to do this, this is here Stylish Roll Strike Back comes into play. Every single time you successfully dodge with the weapon action, you flash blue + hear the ping, now your NEXT Photon Art is augmented by 20% Potency and 20% (pp cost). Since point blank already costs a low amount of PP, and your normal attack should generate approximately 20pp every normal. You can basically repeatedly spam point blank 24/7 while staying in melee range to take advantage of the counter damage. Now for aimless rain, that one is just AoE and you kinda just let it rip. So TL;DR: Build your chain boost ASAP to 120%, switch to spamming point blank + abusing weapon action/Stylish Roll's iFrames+Counter to increase your damage to high as hell. When the boss is out of reach due to gunner's lack of mobility (Unless you slot Hunter/Fighter for Wired Lance or Twin Dagger Movement), Spam Bullet Rave until the boss comes down for another ass kicking. Hope that clarifies your question and helps out!
That sounds significantly more fun than what I have been doing, and much better at that! I didn't consider the damage on bullet rave being so back-loaded at all. Thanks a bunch!
Was a gunner main in base PSO2, and I have to say Gu back then was more complicated and niche, but a lot more fun. Well-timed S-rolls allowed for true, permanent aerial combat, and the PA that was the equivalent to onslaught seemed to be a lot more useful. I still like gunner but I find ranger a lot more fun right now. The launcher is amazing in NGS :3
Same! I was a Gunner main until Luster (I just realllllly love gun blades T_T), the class now is suuuper accessible and I'm really happy more people are getting into it. I also really love the chain trigger changes to be literal speed incarnate. Also I'm hoping we can get Grim Barrage back as a Class Skill/PA in Winter, because I really miss staying in the air 24/7! Also I've also found Ranger a lot more fun recently and have been devoting A LOT of time to it!
I never played Gunner on base but for me it looks so more appealing in ngs then base for me. I ended up swapping from braver main to rifle phantom main after I maxed it and started playing around with it. ra/gu feels like a blast to me with being able to switch in the fast paced gunner abilities with ease! once I hit level 20 on ranger Im thinking about trying out something with a counter cause I really miss getting a counter off like I could on phantom. Awesome video ^-^
Ohhh I enjoyed rifle phantom so much on PSO2 OG too! RaGu is currently what I'm playing as I test stuff for Saturday's ranger video and I'm having a blast (literally cause of launcher ayyyyy). I hope you enjoy gunner cause it's really really fun also thank you for the compliment!
Yup! NGS is wildly fun and I love it A LOT! It's one of those games I come to, have a great time in it, and never really get bored. But the nice thing is when you take a break in NGS/PSO2, when you come back it doesn't take that long to catch up back to the current content too! Glad you're having fun!
I think original PSO2 had a real problem of the meta just being slap hunter onto everything. By making that a hunter-specific gimmick, I think it opens up the viability of more diverse sub-class selections.
@@cosmosofinfinity true since just about everything is viable. Especially ranger since status effects really hurt since they can last up to 30 seconds and there's no recovery items for them yet
Thank you so much! And Yeah! I threw a little celebration party for myself after we broke 100 subs and it's pretty crazy to see the sub count currently!
does ppl even use dodge on gunner? I feel like it is better to use stylist roll (or whatever that mouse 3 name is)? and any good way to use auto lock on weakpoint sometimes it just goes to target whole part of the boss/moster that I need to attack especially when boss is down and it still try to lock at their feets/wings(make me use Z to manually aim sometimes)?
So honestly the lockon situation is something that PSO2 has struggled with even in it's earliest days, unfortunately you'll just have to spam relocking on (Q) while staring at the general area you want to target. Now onto dodge, on Gunner specifically it's pretty rare to use it due to how powerful+versatile your weapon action is. There's some times you'll want to use it like triggering Resurgir's potential which gives you +% crit on successful side step counter, however it's pretty limited on when you should use it. Overall, I MIGHT sidestep dodge into a projectile occasionally to use the sidestep shot if the enemy is semi far away and I am running directly at it. I hope that was able to answer your questions or clear up anything!
One downside about NGs gunner is that you can't get attitude anymore with S-Roll. In base PSO2, I was able to stay in the air for as long as I want and now I can't do that anymore.
Yup and to make matters worse, we don't have a skill like grim barrage which lets us fly directly towards what we're locked on. On the bright side though, we now have Bullet Rave which is functionally a better True Equilibrium (it's a combo between Hero's TMG 3 shot and Elder Rebellion's big final shot)! Im hoping the winter update will give us a class skill to change our weapon action into a homing moving one (Maybe Forward + Weapon action = You basically Grim barrage?).
You can get a gap closer if you multiweapon the tmgs with a wired lance tho, their weapon action is really good to home in quickly into a weakspot and pop the chain for full damage, its like the best option to multiweapon tmgs with just because of that and you don't need to have hunter as a sub to use the action! its a win/win
@@Guaporacer Yup and that's one of my favorite combos too! It's really really really fun to use, and with hunter's physique, you can use it as a little "30s of no knockback" too!
Fighter/hunter twin daggers and sword. Amazing mobility can stay in the air 100% all the time! With daggers and slow fall charge PAs with hunter. I run multi weapons daggers/swords. PA I run front pallet= daggers normal attack/Circling Blizzard/Dagger weapon action back 3 are Helzeus Coat/Twisting Zapper/Calibur Streak. This gives you charge gap closer gives you best Mobbing AOE with swords Twisting Zapper and insane single target weak point damage with daggers and you use Calibur when target isn’t moving and can chain Circling Buzzard into it while Calibur is still doing damage it’s pretty insane!
Yup and HOOOOO Man when it gets downed and you're on FiHu? BOOM. BAP. DEAD with Defeat Enemy Advantage+Overload+Calibur Streak damage. Its REALLLLLLY fun to play FiHu and I'm so glad you're enjoying it a lot! Honestly for me, the hardest decision which I think about every day is do I like GuRa, RaGu, or FiHu the most LOL.
@@everydere yeah Gu/RA or Ra/Gu are my second favorite as well ive always played melee close range but i enjoy playing a bit of mid range to long range at times! really loving the changes they made to NG where not every class needs hunter sub anymore lol
A tip I like is to build 100 chain fast use bullet rave and cancel the slow final shot with a regular attack, then bullet rave again and repeat this. Bullet rave adds hits to the chain super fast unless you let the slow final shot go off. Once you have 100 chain pop it with a full PA and then you want to let your full PAs go off during the chain boost period. I find this useful for keeping really high uptime on chain boost. Now if only I could find a use for the close range double shot PA
Yup! I actually covered that tip in my gunner guide here: ruclips.net/video/xfi7p1T3iCI/видео.html ! Also for point blank, once you hit 120% attack speed, you actually get a lot of DPS from just dumping your PP to 0 by spamming it uncharged, then using a combination of bullet rave, sroll, normal attacks, and weapon action to regen your pp during chain building =D. I do this frequently in UQs against bosses and it results in some really high DPS (Sroll counter also pads this by making point blank hit even harder).
@@everydere I didn't think of that. The potency is like half of bullet rave but I think in the time I do 1 bullet rave I can do like 3 point blanks. Hmm! I might try that thanks haha. I really wish there was a dps meter so I can test things better. Or that the PAs had the amount of time it takes per use on them. I had to time it myself. Bullet rave is around 3 seconds from first click to full animation finish. Point blank is about 1 second animations which means for like triple the PP use you can get 50% more dps from point blank for a short burst. Probably really good for downed phases. This also makes Fighter as subclass a little interesting for the downed phase buffs even though they are pretty low for subclass compared to main class hehe.
@@erebus728 Oh man if everything aligns (I've tested this on GuFi), blowing a 100 chain + having full 120% atk speed, on a break/downed phase on a weak point, lets you unleash such a ridiculous amount of burst in a short amount of time from cramming a charged point blank into multiple normal point blanks + onslaught if you have 10pp left. You'll really enjoy the crazy numbers tbh LOL. I have approximately 160-ish PP with food + my old PSO2 units anddd man it is A LOT of point blanks really fast. I hope the new affixes+units lets us get 200pp relatively soon!
@@everydere wow thanks for this. I'm all about learning how to dps as best I can. What I am still unsure of is should I just blow the chain at 81+? I keep waiting to 100 cause I thought 100 gives you 20% attack speed but now it seems like I'm misunderstanding. Apparently I have to stack two chain boost and keep it rolling?
@@erebus728 Yup 81 gives you the 5% ATK speed bonus (correct me if I'm wrong btw), and since reload would make the CT ~3s(?) cool down, you can repeatedly build 81+ to get that full 120% and it's reallly noticeable from the first 81+ break. I usually blow the first chain at 81, then the consecutive chains at 100 since the first chain without chain boost, is always the slowest. For maintaining chain boost, if there is a scenario where it messed up (mainly due to server lag), I'll blow my chain early to upkeep the chainboost 120% speed buff (CB lasts 45s, at
I'm really goddamn loving the gunner the only thing I want is anything just about anything to keep me in the air longer. I'll even take a skill with CD if that means I can constantly stay up in the air.
Yup! I really hope we had grim barrage from the original PSO2 now , so we can fly through the air and stay in there indefinitely T_T it was my favorite PA when it got introduced.
@@everydere totally agreed it'd be amazing to have a skill like that. In base pso2 my favorite class was bouncer simply because I really loved the weapon action and that grand weave skill with encore jump it was just fun to play around with. It'd be crazy if gunner can have something similar to encore jump maybe gunner shoots downward and propels up charging any of the PA it'd also be a amazing chain starter on the air. Now I'm just dreaming xD
I do have a post-vid question that wasnt answered and the main reason im on YT now searching gunner vids: 1.) I don't understand Stylish Roll "while Weapon Action is active (I guess they mean while you are mid-dodge thingy), pressing the PA button(? I guess they mean using forEx:Bullet Rave) will do some 'high potency attack'. I can't seem to get this to work or I am not noticing anything happening. (EDIT I think I am seeing what this is, it almost looks like the normal auto attack but just blue. it doesnt seem very powerful but I'm pretty sure I figured this one out at least) 2.) Stylish Roll Strike Back: I guess I am not QUITE sure what they mean by a 'successful' dodge as I have experimented with this by just dodging around an enemy, specifically trying to dodge through projectiles and stuff but I never notice any buff occur. is there no visual cue or anything? and is the buff so miniscule that I just am not noticing the extra PP cost for extra potency increase? I don't really notice either of those two things occurring. 3.) Spread Shot: Spend WHAT gauge that was built up by attacks? Its AR only, so do Gunners typically switch to an AR to do this move and quickly swap back to their Machine Guns? PS I am sorry if I am a bit clueless/slow ^ v ^ this is also my first time ever playing any PSO game and I just picked it up recently. and sorry for the wall of text, I'm trying to be descriptive to accurately point out where my confusions are. thank you!
No problem I'll answer all of these for you! 1) So Stylish Roll is activated by pressing the weapon action while HOLDING down a PA, you'll notice that it makes a different sound effect as you roll + your attack will look slightly different. Stylish Roll will have the same general properties + animation as weapon action so that indicator is how you tell you activated it. If you did it properly, you'll notice you will lose 10 PP and your damage during those shots will actually be more than normal. 2) Okay so this one is kinda hard to notice depending on how your sound options are. So when you successfully dodge an attack using the weapon action, you will see a REALLY light blue flash on your character+ a light sounding ping noise. When this ping noise happens, your next PA will cost 20% and your potency will be increased by 20% total, I usually treat this more as a of "Okay I dodged, so my next point blank/bullet rave is more damage" rather than trying to save the buff. So overall to really try and see this one, head to the cocoon "Defeat The Enhanced Enemy" where you fight a pettas sword that has an enhancement core, and continuously dodge the sword. You'll see the blue flash + hear the ping and it'll make it easier to notice. 3) So Spread Shot is actually an interesting one, you'll have to open up your subpalette and put Spread Shot (it is an active skill, not a passive skill) onto your hot bar. It will build a gauge when you use assault rifle and this allows you do to do spread shot. Now, for gameplay purposes, TMGs are pretty self sufficient and with how good TMGs are + Chain boost and Chain Trigger, you will frequently find yourself not really needing to use the rifle. So overall if you don't want to use spreadshot, you can save 2 SP and put it towards 10/10 PP Recovery and 2/10 Overwhelm for more PP regeneration. But if you do slot Gunner Ranger for example, and you have spread shot on the ranger tree, You can use spreadshot without having it on your main class. So basic Tl;dr is: You can actually use TMGs 24/7 and Rifle is more of a preference thing/change of pace for you. Also don't worry about asking too many questions! Welcome to PSO2! My goal honestly is to help people learn the game so they can enjoy it since there's a lot of questions I see people asking, but not enough people answering them. I hope I was able to clarify the questions and feel free to ask more!
@@everydere Thank you for such an in-depth and quick reply ! ^ ^ I actually am Gunner / Ranger and you said having the Rangers Spread Shot will allow me to use SS without an AR or did I misread that lol and I seen you talking up about Launchers, are they something I can (for fun if anything) as a Gnr/Rng, be playing with? and grab Launcher Charge Grouping n stuff?
And a few more questions come to mind that I remember being curious about: Augments: What are the best augments for a gunner to throw on their MGs? I think I put straight Potency+ x2. I wasnt sure which was better, Potency+ or Potency Floor Increase+. or if there are other augments a gunner will do better using. and for Armor, I am using Alts/Dolz Soul - maybe theres a better augment I should be using for those as well IDK ^ v ^; Multi-Weapon: I spent ALL of my money mostly because it was a main-story quest step to do so and I decided to make an AR / MG hybrid. Maybe I should have made a MG / AR hybrid instead? are multi-weapons worth it or should I stick with a pure MG with an AR (and maybe a launcher) on separate equips. Last but not least: N-Meseta. Since I broke the bank making that Multi-Weapon, I can no longer upgrade my brand new level 14 MGs and Meseta gain has grinded to a near halt. What is/Is there a modest way for me to be farming N-Meseta? and finally a less pressing issue BUT I also want to farm Base Game Meseta because theres a few cosmetics I would love to have but I notice they range from anywhere from 5mil to like 250mil. Do I need to level up in Base Game and farm Base Game Meseta somewhere? is ~1mil a CRAZY ENDEAVOR that will take all day? lol ^ ^;
@@atrailofblood No problem! So spread shot is 100% locked to rifle only, so even on GuRa with Spread Shot on the Ra tree, you will need to have a rifle currently equipped to use it. Launcher can only be used if you do GuRa or RaGu (I switch between these two frequently), and they are surprisingly a lot of fun! Usually my rotation on bosses, assuming I can't get the ability to stand without being hit. Is to Fallen Impact then Multi-Hit and keep doing that. Now if the boss is not aggressive towards me or its a down phase, I use Fallen Impact followed by throwing a sticky bomb (Launcher Weapon Action), and Fear Eraser hold down. If you do this correctly, the bomb detonates during Fear Eraser's second enhanced damage portion, giving you a whole PP bar of pure damage. Now onto augments, the best augments would be to just slot pure potency on your TMGs AT THE MOMENT. But, I personally need to do more testing because potency floor increase lets you hit your max damage # more often and damage is slightly back loaded on your hits. Now, majority of the time at 120% Chain Boost, you'll be spamming point blank so personally I think Potency is better than potency floor. Multi-weapons are personal preference, imo I have my previous OG PSO2 15* Tmgs and they work pretty decently. I will end up working on my NGS weapons+Units to replace my OG Gear eventually but at the moment, the game's kinda buggy sometimes so out of safety I'm not really focusing too much on it. And your choice is correct! There is a hidden 10% potency buff for your main class weapon, so a Rifle is classified as main class weapon for BOTH Gunner and Ranger meaning, a Multiweapon Rifle would be more beneficial because you can put TMG+Launcher on it, allowing you to fully play RaGu or GuRa at any point in time! Personally, I am probably going to stick to separate weapons at the moment because I have access to my TMGs, but I will end up moving towards a Rifle Multiweapon as NGS progresses. N-Meseta is scuffed and the upgrading fees at the moment are extremely expensive. So the benefit of multi-weapons is that you don't spend WAYYYYYYYY more N-Meseta by making 3 weapons (Rifle+Launcher+TMG). Instead you dump it into one, then multi weapon the others onto it. So currently the only real way to farm N-Meseta honestly speaking is to just get a 30 day shop pass for 7$ and sell resurgir weapon drops/other drops onto the market. In terms of grinding for it, you can passively get money by doing random farming, also red boxes randomly will give you 10k. Also you do have weekly N-Meseta quests which reward 500k(?) a week and you can do it once per account per week. Now Base Game Meseta, you're actually in luck! The video that started this channel and all my stuff was actually a Meseta Guide which works no matter what update we're on: ruclips.net/video/eCjY6LR7uD4/видео.html . Now there's a couple caveats about it which is Cradle of Darkness was giving us approximately 20m+ within a short amount of time but it required a full party. Since the majority will no longer be playing PSO2 OG this becomes a little be more impossible. So the best course of action in base PSO2 is to hit level 50 per char you have, then do your weeklies (this will reward 6m a week if you have 3 characters). Weeklies are pretty fast to do, but if you get 10 daily orders as a weekly, skip it imo to save yourself time. Hope that answers your questions!
@@everydere Thank you very much again! ^ ^ I appreciate it greatly. Cleared up a lot of my confusions. also your character looks great and you have a nice voice so I subbed hehe ANYWAYSS thanks very much for taking the time !! you've been a great help!
I personally feel I get more out of the gunner by only having three abilities equipped. The rapid fire, the weapon action and the AoE. I use the subclasses exclusively for the passives. Rotation tends to be pretty simple - Activate chain trigger, if large groups then use AoEs full combo string including the final hit until 100 combo meter then go for a big AoE. I tend to use these in PSE bursts. or, Activate chain trigger, if single enemy or boss spam your rapid fire as quickly as you can to 100 without using the final hit then go for a full powered rapid fire with the final hit. Of course dodging with weapon skill and building up PP with basic attacks is mixed in with all of these as-and-when required, but gunner, although I find it fun and it does a lot of damage, feels very simple right now, and after about 70 hours of using it I feel that this rotation puts out the most damage. There could be better ways of doing it but I usually end up being the focus of boss attention. I don't find that subclasses really add anything substantial. I stuck with ranger for the extra bad condition reduction and ward. I didn't bother getting spreadshot because I never use a rifle and stylish onslaught isn't worth it, so 10 points in PP recovery and 3 in overwhelm. If this isn't viable or if there're better methods I'd like to know, I'm just using what I've surmised so far.
Oh luckily my latest gunner video actually covered that for rotations!: ruclips.net/video/5apBDXjp4A8/видео.html Tl;dw: Bullet Rave's final hit is always a DPS loss, Point Blank deals more damage because Gunner has 2 Critical Ranges ( Medium Distance + Close), Strike Back amplifies point blank damage to a ridiculous degree because of gunner's close crit range. And then chain building is Bullet Rave minus the final hit to 81~90, WA to 120pp, then Charged PB into uncharged PB spam for the max Chain Trigger Finish, slap an onslaught at the end if you have 130 PP. (This Chain rotation deals more potency than a normal charged bullet rave + Finisher). Stylish Onslaught is actually useful since it lets you + deal solid DPS straight through multi-hit attacks, but other times Strike Back is better with Point Blank. AoE rotation is pretty much as you described for PSE bursts aka just spam Aimless Rain. And for subclass choices, you're spot on. Gunner's so self contained and perfect that it makes it's subclass choice pretty much anything you want. I run GuFo since the extra PP from PP Eradication Gain = Infinite Aimless rains. But also during a burst/downed phase, 1/5 PP convert gives you infinite PP so you never weapon action but keep spamming uncharged point blanks for max damage. Hope that helps expand your gunner gameplay!
U might not answer, but how the hell do u get clothing, im trying to go into the old pso2 to get clothing but I get kicked and my friend gets in the old pso2 fine?
So basically over the last couple days, it's been hit or miss heading back to Old PSO2. At the moment, I think it's still scuffed (sometimes I can get back, but sometimes it just boots me immediately). So pretty much you'll have to wait for SEGA to run a maint to fix it (next maint should pretty much fix all the issues they've been publishing on ngs.pso2.com). Hope that helps you out!
@@Nopy1998 Luckily I'll have the hunter guide on wednesday so it might help out! But yeah I agree, at the moment with all the lag the melee experience is definitely not as good as it should be T_T. When I was testing things to break down Hunter completely, I was like "okay perfect lets see how many -- Oh no the numbers aren't popping up and the server is frozen"
Thank you for the guide! But as u said, people should be using TMG when playing gunner, so why pig the spread shot which requires us to use assault rifle?
Hi hi! Rifle is actually Gunner's second weapon (It's TMG+Rifle), Your other choices would be a 1-2% more pp recovery gain which isn't noticeable, so might as well pick up spread shot + spread shot getaway if you plan on trying out GuRa or plan on trying to see if rifle fits in your playstyle (Homing Darts can actually deal some crazy damage to multiple targets or multiple points at once with 0 effort). Hope that answers your question! Edit: Forgot to clarify, it also makes the Rifle usable on other things besides GuRa incase you want to do GuHu instead. (you could pick spread shot on Ranger to ignore getting spread shot on gunner).
Is there really no way to make over the shoulder aim with Z button use the camera facing direction instead of char? it is the only thing that drives me mad.......
Sadly, there isn't a way at the moment. The over the should aim is treated as a locked "Third Person Shooter" mode style anddd I really wish it had a way to not make it character locked at all. Maybe in the future SEGA might change it but as is, it is currently impossible for it to be camera facing sorry. Hope that was able to answer your question!
So under your control settings for keyboard (i'm not sure if you can do this on controller), You can change the hotkeys for weapon pallette swapping to either NUMPAD Keys, Top Row Number Keys (1-9), or Function keys (F1-F12). I have it set to Function keys which allows me to easily swap weapons mid animations, or I also bind it to my mouse allowing me to do that as well. I hope that helps answer your question!
Yup the greatest addition to New Genesis, is how not impactful subclasses are. I use GuRa tbh just to meme with the Launcher/enhance my gunner's rifle when i feel like having a change of pace. GuHu to meme on Daryl Sword by WA-ing straight to the chest and spamming point blank+sroll+onslaught until it instant breaks.
Thank you so much! If we hit 1k subs thattt would actually be insane (my goal was literally just 100 to be honest). But even if we don't hit 1k, I'll still be producing short condensed videos so people don't have to sift through 20min long MMO vids (this is my biggest gripe in current MMO gaming, happens with every game now ;_;).
Would you ever recommend using rifle on Gunner ever? I know all of chain trigger is TMG only, but I still am a fan of rifle's PAs and stuff. I was thinking of making a multi-weapon for Gunner to have the normal PAs and stuff for rifle, but keep the dodge (since the s don't seem to work on Ranger's WA even though it says it's supposed to?) from TMG just to give me some more security while using rifle. Otherwise, is wired lance heavily recommended for the WA with TMG? I like the WA, but I feel like it's always a bit shorter than I expect, or sometimes it connects but doesn't pull me in. Really enjoying Gunner so far though! I've tried all the different classes and I'm -pretty sure- that I like Gunner best. It's so hard to decide though!
So Rifle Gunner is a kinda complicated subject, but it comes down mostly to it's usable but you won't have access to grenadier unless you have the Ranger subclass. Now if you are a fan of Rifle's PAs, there's really not a reason not to use rifle since even without grenadier, Rifle is still a really good weapon to use! Overall, Gunner's TMGs will be the primary focus of the class due to how chain works + benefits TMGs, but you can still use a rifle and you may even find some cool tech to do with it! For wired lance usage, It's mostly situational and more for getting up to the weak points, but you don't really need it on Gunner due to how bosses are designed at the moment. Petas Veras for example, has little photon boost things that allow you to glide from them, into petas' chest/weak point areas. Bullet Rave also is Gunner's go to "I can't reach the target" move and it's pretty strong as well. So basically, you can use wired lance to minmax point blank usage but it's not overly necessary at all! Now IMO I think once SEGA starts introducing bosses that require more vertical combat, we'll also be receiving class skills that accommodate that (OG PSO2 Gunner got Grim barrage which allows them to fly towards anything they're targeting). Also really glad you're enjoying Gunner! I hope you're having tons of fun in NGS and always remember to test any combination you really like! The best part of NGS, is how we're able to do virtually anything at the moment!
@@everydere That makes a lot of sense, thanks! I think I'll probably hold off on the WA until I get a much better feel for Gunner. I've been bouncing around all the classes and like a lot of aspects of each, but I want to say Gunner has all the stuff I like the most. Close range dodging fun, but not necessarily required to deal damage at all, a cool class mechanic for DPSing bosses, and all that good stuff. I hope we get more options down the line! I'd really like a mini-limit break like Talis has for example, just to have a big button to press every once and a while that isn't just the photon burst. Only thing about Gunner is that I just have no active skills that are directly related to TMGs. Still, having tons of fun! Only thing I'm a little confused about still is what the purpose of the weapon action -> PA thing. I forget the name off the top of my head, but.. What do you use it for exactly? Is it a quick way of capitalizing on the bonus potency from dodging something, or just a quick follow up attack for a dodge?
So my rotation for chain trigger (I'm planning on making a more in depth video to explain Bullet Rave vs Point Blank later): Boss too Far + Chain Boost about to fall off?: > Charged Bullet Rave ( 660 Pot, Triggers Chain) > Bullet Rave (Finisher damage falls off midway) Total Potency under finisher: ~800-ish Boss is close: > Charged Point Blank (Triggers Chain) > Point Blank x 4 > Onslaught Total Potency under finisher: 1.4k~ish Minimum These are both assuming you have 120% Attack Speed boost from triggering 4 chains at 81+ (Chain Boost) Hope that helps you out!
Your vid makes me feel big brain for going Gu/Hu with TMG multi'd into a Wirelance. Any input on this multi-weapon, but skipping hunter in favour of Fi or Fo? The added tankiness from hunter is great, and I miss the block on the wire weapon action if I switch. With time and practice though, will stylish roll be enough in terms of defense? Fi's increased damage and PP recovery seems like the 'best' for this weapon setup.
So TMG is actually a pretty self sufficient setup and the defense on it is pretttttty high up on the list. Sroll can dodge straight through everything in the game (i've actually tested this), and has really lenient s. Fi as a sub will give you twin daggers which function similarly to Wired Lances except more flying around. And you are correct too! Fi's increased Damage will help Gunner deal even more damage during burst phases! Overall It's mostly down to a preference on what you personally prefer. Now Force as a subclass can allow some nice stuff since Rod is a very versatile and strong weapons well, so you're not really missing out on anything by choosing either one. Soo basically it's down to how you personally prefer to play the class. Now in terms of your multi-weapon im assuming its TMG base with wiredlance added? and that's A-ok, you can add twin daggers or any fighter weapon of your choosing and still excel! The greatness of new genesis is how open everything is for builds. Hope that answered questions you have! *TL;DR:* Fi works great, Fo works great, You'll be completely 100% A-ok with just Sroll/TMG Weapon Action for defense.
Does gunner should be called as mid-range class, since it have quite a distance to do damage? Did I do something wrong like if you get closer to the target you'll do more damage or something?
So it's actually a future video I need to make, but basically 120% chain boost makes it so point blank becomes a ridiculous amount of damage. So what you'll be doing usually is choosing between Bullet Rave/Point Blank depending on how far you are at 120% Attack Speed Chain Boost. For popping your chain trigger, you'll want to be doing Charged Point Blank into multiple point blanks because the math on popping with bullet rave is only 660 potency, + maybe 330 potency. You can actually fit upwards to 4-5 point blanks (~1320+ potency) in one chain trigger's finish resulting in a LARGE amount of damage. So basically think of Gunner as more of a 24/7 sustained high DPS class with a VERY strong burst at 100 chain. I hope that answers your questions!
Hi hi! My TMG skins are *SH Tridents , they come from OG PSO2 and you can still buy them from the player shops, but it'll take some Meseta grinding to get it though. Hope that answers your question!
Hi hi! So you'll want to hit the target with the weapon action, and then hold the weapon action along with a side input. You'll start doing the Lasso attack and rapidly regen PP while dealing tons of damage and stunlocking!
I usually switch between the two! Along with GuFo for aimless rain spam during grinding. Also it was pointed out in a comment, but you can actually use the wired lances' weapon action just not the PAs if you don't have Hunter as a sub! I needa do some testing with it to see if it's worth losing Hunter's extra WL skills, but it definitely opens up even more class possibilities!
I was planning to play gunner with the force/ranger as sub class. Is it any good if I do a resurgir TMG + talis as a multi weapon? Right now my main class is a ranger with a foursis rifle
TMG + Talis can work I believe, I'm not sure about the synergies on it but I think with some experimentation, you can find some crazy stuff to pull off! Also GuFo allows you to have virtually infinite PP too when mobbing, so if the combo doesn't work out, you'll still have a strong subclass! GuRa basically makes Gunner's Rifle good due to grenadier+more s on weapon action along with access to Launcher. Overall, I'd say it comes down to experimenting to see if you enjoy the combo itself! Personally I've been playing RaGu/RaFo recently for infinite PP dumping shenanigans
I just got resurgir launcher, do you think I should go for resurgir TMG + launcher as a multiweapon for GuRa? Or looking for a resurgir rifle and then make a rifle(base)+TMG+launcher? We can use it for RaGu too right? Btw Im sorry if my English is bad😅
There were some questions floating around since CBT you could trigger chain + gain the chain finisher damage, and Chain boost speed with other weapon PAs (this was a glitch and lead to some HILARIOUSLY high hunter sword damage). So in full release, I decided to clarify the mechanics of chain trigger and its effects, so people can understand it is 100% completely locked to TMG now.
So imo because Cattelya TMGs exist and Resurgir's potential is slightly useless for TMGs (due to barely using side steps). I would probably just use Cattelya TMGs and switch palettes to your Wired Lance when you need the gap closer (You don't have to have Hunter as a subclass to do this, you can access Wired Lance's weapon action without the subclass! You just lose out on extra stuff for it). Hope that helps your decision making!
Are the stylish roll skills just not strong enough damage-wise to justify a gu sub use? Cause that's kind of the vibe l'm getting from these gunner videos.
Yup, unfortunately TMGs are in general slow, huge animation locks, and wayy lower DPS when you don't have access to Chain Boost. So pretty much Gunner as a subclass would be primarily for PP regeneration.
Been running Gunner/Ranger, and Ranger/Gunner as I get my Ranger to 20. Honestly, either way is great. Although Ranger/Gunner gets Blight Rounds so I kinda prefer it for bosses.
Same! I heavily enjoy both ways and i agree with bosses, I prefer using launcher+rifle on a boss but if i'm feeling cheeky i'll use TMGs and go nuts during downed phases!
I'm using Gunner/Ranger with a TMG/launcher multiweapon. My favorite thing about that is when a monster turns its weak point away from me, I can use Multi-Launch PA from the launcher to hit the weak spot even though I don't have line of sight. Lots of fun to play.
I find Chain Trigger has a fun and interesting rotation, but I am curious about optimal damage output. It really doesn't matter how high and fast you get the combo from 1-100, when the activated buff scales down the duration from 30secs to 3secs anyway. (If you activate the combo at 1 hit, it lasts 28 secs. If you activate at 100 hits, it lasts 3secs, regardless if you got to 100 hits in 4 secs during a PSE Burst or if it took 2 mins to do it.) Generally, I just complete the Chain when I hit 30-40 to split the difference and give myself enough time to have a buff active, but I really have no dmg meter to confirm this is the correct course of action.
So generally I try and aim for 81+ (assuming you have the 120% Chain boost, since it'll speed up this fast) So my rotation is basically: > Build 4x 81 Chains and pop them (This gives 120% ASPD Chain Boost) > Chain Build up phase @ 120% ASPD: 1-75 = PP DUMP LIKE CRAZY (Sroll/Point Blank Spam/Normal attacks for more pp for Srolls) 75~100 = Weapon Action + Normal Attack spam back to full pp and hit 100 chain @ 100 Chain: > *If Chain Boost is falling off from messing up previously or boss is running away:* Charged Bullet Rave -> Bullet Rave (Finisher applies to ~50% of the duration of the 2nd bullet rave) (~700-800 Potency under Chain Finisher window) > *If Chain Boost is NOT falling off and you're in melee range:* Charged Point Blank -> Point Blank Uncharged x3 + Onslaught (~1200-1400 Potency under chain finisher window) This basically allows you to continuously use chain to build up to 100 constantly due to the small cooldown in between, while keeping uptime and an infinite string of high sustain inbetween 100 chain pops. Hope that helps out your theorycrafting adventures!
I just realized that gunner has counter too :v (Perfect normal Dodge + normal attack). It deals a ton of damage and longer i frame. Perfect for fighting bujin :v
Yup! Gunner has a counter and on top of that, sroll counter pumps up your damage as well. If you're at 120% ASPD Chain Boost, you can use SRoll Counter to pump out a super fast high damaging point blank!
So imo the most common Gunner Subs are Fo/Fi, so by taking the Straga Tmgs you will get -10% Damage Resistance which is something you'll have to factor in. If you're not okay with the -10/-8% DR, then I would go down the Cattelya route which promotes you maintaining max HP instead (this is behind straga by 1%). However, if you're going for pure theoretical highest damage, Straga would win out vs Cattelya by 1% and 1 damage. Now the part that gets messed up here, is you can probably find a Cattelya Machine Gun with a Preset Skill like Fixa Attack cheaper than Straga, which would then make the Cattelya above Straga with no preset. Sooo it really does come down to your priorities + how much you're willing to invest! (Imo, I ended up taking the Cattelya Route since Fixa Attack/Fixa Termina on those was wayyyyyyyyy cheaper than a Straga version) Hope that helps you out a little!
@@everydere ok thanks for the reply 👍. My cattelya I use dropped with fixa attack +1, not the best but as I've made them +40 I guess I'm better just sticking with them.
Hi hi! I don't believe it works with the weapon action unfortunately, side stepping is kinda rare for me too so I only use it if I am planning on setting up multiple side step attacks (back to back). Overall I find the resurgir series multiweapon is more geared towards Ranger since Launcher+Rifle will utilize side step wayy more than TMG. Hope that answers your question! Also if you're wondering what I'm using in the mean time as I test stuff, it's just a cras TMG that i have from OG PSO2 as my placeholder until i really decide which 4* to invest in for gunner.
Yup as Aradia said, the UQ variant of the dragon features a down damage bar and a health bar to tell you when each phase is happening. It's really freakin cool tbh!
Hi hi! Under Keybind Settings (Keyboard), the switch palettes binding allows you to instantly switch between weapons. It's default set to NUM1-0 (i think), so mine is set to F1-F10 for easy access, but I've also bound it to my mouse! Hope that answers your question!
@@TriforceKid9746 This one is a game changer if you haven't seen my gunner guide, but bind your weapon action to a comfortable key (I use Shift as my key) this is so you can easily have access to your weapon action/Sroll onslaught/and Sroll attacks. This is also a personal preference, but I bound dodge to E (and rebound confirm to T). This lets me instantly dodge on any class so I can abuse counter damage. Hope that helps you out!
Could you do a guide for Fighter, focused on Daggers? I don't know why, but I have the feeling that AA are better than PA for fighters. Fighters PA looks flashy but not stronger. I never saw those 200+ damage numbers on fighter as I see on other classes on YT. Not even 100+. Am I doing something wrong?
Sure ! I'm planning on making one since I'm going through every class, so I'll be sure to touch on the intricacies of fighter. I'm waiting for the server lag to be fixed atm cause I think certain classes can't really shine until we get this lag fixed. But overall in terms of your current damage, are you using previous PSO2 15* weapons? Because with my current set from previous PSO2 and level 15, I'm at +28% damage(full PSO2 OG units) + I have access to my Cras TMGs which leads to really big numbers. That might be the case for why your damage would be lower buut if you work on your NGS weapons + potential them, it should equal those numbers.
@@everydere well, I'm new to PSO2 in general. So I have nothing preped. I just hot Resurgir Daggers. Didn't test it yet. Also, all 4* weapons have the same atk? I noticed that we have to unlock potencial (the yellow skill), but there are also a different kind of potencial that is red. How do I get the onde I want?
@@joseluisdossantoscruz1102 So the red skill you're seeing is called a Preset Skill, these are completely random and are only available when the weapon drops itself. Potentials are slightly different across the 4* weapons but they're primarily along the same lines of a solid 20%-ish potency increase. So to farm the preset skill you want, you'd have to repeatedly attempt to get the item to drop. Also since you're new to PSO2 in general, welcome! and don't worry too much about your damage in comparison to other videos (My damage on Gunner is insanely jacked due to how strong my previous 15* is atm with no NGS weapon invested yet).
Hi Hi! Under Keybind settings (Keyboard) > Shortcuts, you can change your switch palette setup to instantly switch! (I use F1-F9 to change my weapons instantly)
i have resurgir TMG and i kinda want to multi weapon my TMG with wired lance, do i have to use the 4* one for the wired lance or the *1 are fine since im just using it for gap closer? thanks
Hi hi good question! So 4*s are actually unique in how multi-weaponing works. Basically you need to *match the series* of the weapon to multi-weapon it. This means you'll have to get a Resurgir Wired Lance as well to multi-weapon it.
Low key my main is gunner with fighter sub that attk on the fighter sub is pretty nice lmao but just the visuals of tmgs is what takes it for me i a reset skill what should I focus on when it comes to a build like that
Hi hi! So honestly speaking, on Fighter sub, the best use of your points would be to shove 10/10 Defeat Advantage, then use the rest of your points on whatever else you want. Now the downside is that current at the moment, we don't have enough SP in the game so you will have to sacrifice some components of fighter meaning it would cripple Fighter in some fashion if you want to play it later on*. Buuut when we do get extra points, I definitely would prioritize Defeat Advantage for more damage against downed enemies, since Gunner is already extremely PP efficient. I hope that answers your question!
I got my gunner to level 20, even with all the lag, and I just feel bad ass. I wreck things so fast and a lot of the badies can't do anything to you in the air. If I ever were to suggest a skill it would be something that can boost you in the air right away, getting hit tends to stagger you right to the ground.
I agree, back in OG PSO2 we had aerial shooting to instantly shoot us up (pre-double jump era) and it felt pretty nice. I'd love something along the lines of Leaping Dodge added to Gunner's kit to shoot us super high too! Also glad you're having tons of fun with Gunner! Today's lag has been less than normal and it felt REALLLY good to trigger multiple sroll counters today off the UQ!
Yup! Defeat Advantage on Fighter gives insane Downed State Damage so combining that with PP Recovery + Defeat PP Advantage, and you can basically unload on a target from 100% to 0 pp, and keep doing it. My alliance mate uses a Fi combo and it's pretty funny to watch chained downs from how much burst there is.
Hell yes! Gunner's always fun, imo for me I've always been a gunner main but between TMGs and Gunblades, I *REALLY* like gunblades sooo I'll probably be playing Gunner until the 2022 Gunblade class.
Hi hi! I think a point was missed in the video here, but you're supposed to use TMGs on Gunner due to how Chain Trigger functions. Subclass choice is mostly to supplement your personal playstyle (Wired Lance/TD for example can be used to reach weak points easier, while something like Ranger as a subclass opens up rifle possibilities due to only losing blight rounds). So basically, 99% of the time you will be on TMGs, but you can use your subclass weapon to help benefit you for example to close distance so you can use more TMGs. Hope that helps answer your question!
Your previous guuner guide was really helpful. Finally understood how to do a lot more dmg. Also I took techter as subclass and its lvl 13 now. Do you think its worth to switch to fighter or hunter now? I dont really even use techter.
Thank you! Now since you're not really using techer as a subclass, I'd say you could just change it to Fighter (Twin Dagger mobility is fun), or Hunter. Going from 1-10 on a subclass is actually pretty fast when you're just running around on your main class, so it should equal your techer really fast. Hope you have a great day!
Same! Doing Aimeless Rain into a huge amount of mobs when you start chain + build chain is insane and can build you to 100 in like 2 PAs too if they're grouped up enough. Hope you're having fun with gunner!
@@everydere I am but I felt launcher did higher damage numbers but the gunner seems to kill just as quick if not quicker it's very weird. Then again I hit for 1108 damage today 😅
@@tickletheFATk1d Duuude I've been doing memes with Launcher to see how long can I do fear eraser + how high can I make the damage LOL it's really fun. But yeah I agree sometimes I feel like Gunner's weaker than other stuff, then I remember it hits so frequently compared to other classes, but mann those big Launcher numbers + Damage is so freaking fun!
@@everydere if you would be willing to create a video looking to different weapons with their DPS, for example 10 seconds for each weapon against an enemy in a cocoon for solo testing. Add the total damage of the photage and divide it by 10 see what the highest is, I've not found any content like that so I hope I'll will be popular and appreciated none the less!
I have two questions actually: #1: What are you wearing? It is rather intriguing and I would like to get it soon .w. #2: I use Force and I have no real plans as to what I will use as my secondary weapon, I am avoiding talis cause I used it in the original but they switched it a lot on this one but I have been thinking of wired lance or twin daggers, what would be better? This is only for now as Bouncer my fav will be coming soon.
Hi I'm wearing Dual Mufflers from PSO2 OG, Maikagura Mask from PSO2 OG, Megumin Eyepatch, Turban from the Soldier Line Scratch, and the mask is the new mask they give you for free in PSO2 NGS. My inner wear + basewear are the new soldier line scratch N-Type outfits (these are like 4k-6k for males btw so pick them up if you haven't). EDIT: Also weapon camos if you were wondering: *SH Trident for my TMGs, *Plasma Hands for my Wired Lances (this work as TMGs too). As for force, personally after testing it, I kinda ended up just using rod a lot since it has been massively improved over CBT. But in terms of a second weapon to summarize: Wired Lances are extremely fun and let you have insane AoE + iFrames, the best way to summarize WL is "If a problem comes along you must WHIP IT *whip noise*". Twin daggers however, have more of a single target focus BUUUT if you enjoy flying around, countering, pretending to be Attack on Titan, then Twin Daggers will fit your playstyle more. Imo combining either one with Rod will allow you to get aerial mobility+gameplay that you might be looking for. SO TL;DR I'd choose which one based on which looks cooler for you since Rod is pretty versatile as is. Also for wired lances, you might want to look if Massive Hunter is worth it for you? That's the other bonus to Hu sub which allows you to ignore all knockbacks for 30 seconds
@@everydere Seems I may be using wired lance then as that 30 sec knockback immunitywill prove to be useful for a force like myself, and WL just have that nice feel about it XD so thank you for telling me ^w^
@@VVamp_Squid No problem! I hope you have tons of fun! Edit: Also just realized I got the scarf name wrong sorry! It's *Dual Scarf* in JP, *Two-Tailed Mufflers* in Global!
Yup! In the CBT it was possible (and I assumed a complete glitch), In Full release we are unable to do ANYTHING chain trigger related unless it's with a TMG. Hopefully SEGA irons some stuff out and lets us do it cause I'd love to trigger Chain with other things besides TMG PAs.
@@everydere I mean I kinda understand the reasoning behind this, maybe SEGA doesn’t want a main class weapon to be a functionality weapon, or kinda like the supplementary for the subclass weapon to do more dmg and whatnot. But still it’s sad that finishing CT with non TMG weapon is no longer a thing 😿
Depends on what you want to play tbh. If you want to just make a weapon for Gunner and Ranger at the same time, Resurgir Rifle with Multi- TMG+Launcher would be the better choice and cheaper in the long run if you play the two classes. The reason is because Rifle classifies as a main class for both Ranger AND Gunner so you don't lose on the 10% hidden potency buff. Now if you plan on just playing solely Gunner, Cattlyea will work. Hope that answers your questions!
So unfortunately for the 4* series the only combination that allows you to do that would be Resurgir. Now if you're like me, and you enjoy switching between Ranger and Gunner, then I would recommend to make a Resurgir Rifle and Multi-weapon Launcher+TMG ontop of this. Rifle is classified as a main class weapon for both Gunner and Ranger so you won't lose out on the 10% potency loss for having it be a "subclass" weapon when using GuRa or RaGu. The only downside is the Resurgir potential is slightly useless on Gunner, but more useful on Ranger. Alternatively, you could just make no multi-weapons and switch your weapons as needed (This may be a cheaper alternative if you find yourself maining ONLY one weapon like TMG).I hope that helps your decision making!
@@everydere I was already thinking of TMG+launcher just because I also really love the launcher and would love to splice in its multishot into TMG mayhem, but when you bring that angle into it, I think that's definitely the way I'm gonna go! Mainly for fun factor but I also figure they're bound to add in new weapons besides resurgir, maybe even fill out the other series with all the weapons. Sucks that resurgir is the only option for now (especially since I can't find any save a few on the player shop). Hopefully I can find one soon. Thanks for the quick response!
@@cosmosofinfinity No problem! Also I really hope they change how multi weapons work, cause I definitely would love to use the other potentials so we can make some real fun combos. ALSO GLAD YOU LOVE LAUNCHER WOOOOOOOOO I've been doing some hilarious things with it, and it's kinda rivaling my love for TMGS LOL
@@everydere Turns out the way to get these resurgir weapons to show up in the personal shop searches is if you examine a player who currently has one equipped
I played base pso2 when it came to gamepass with friends quite casually as a Braver (I couldnt care to get into the complicated skill tree so I basically made it automatic distrubution) Eventually we made it to level 75 and we never returned But with NGS and its thinned skill trees I feel alot more inclined to get a tad more serious about maximizing my efficiency in the role I play, I subbed because I like your informative style and you will be a great resource for beginners and semi beginners like myself
Ohhh you're in luck! In August, we'll be getting Braver back so just a short little while until you can become the storm that is approaching! Also welcome back to PSO2! I hope you and your friends are able to enjoy NGS with it's wayy more streamlined gameplay+skill trees. And thank you so much, I try to gear my videos towards beginners/new players who haven't touched PSO2, but later on I'll start publishing my in depth minmax DPS rotations/potency calculations (I didn't include these because it may over-complicate classes and turn people away from trying them out)
Now that I think about it, if tmgs are the only thing that can trigger chain trigger, then what about multi weapon tmg? Does the abilities you add from another weapon become a possibility for chain trigger? Idk if this has been answered but multiweapons open up so much and I’m still thinking about the combinations
So i actually tested this, so let's say your multiweapon base is a Rifle, and you add a TMG on top. The TMG would still be able to trigger/start/end Chain Trigger and Chain boost only applies to the TMG itself. Now for what photon arts trigger chain, it is exclusively TMG PAs (Bullet Rave, Aimless Rain, Point Blank). I hope that was able to answer your question!
@@everydere damn. So trying to go for a multiweapon tmg would just hurt your dps rather than helping you compliment your gameplay. I'm thinking multiweapon for gunner is just me going for a force sub to just exploit weaknesses. I haven't tested it yet but maybe after popping chain, with hu sub you can deal nice damage if you time your pop with a sword counter for big damage. But even then i think charged satellite does better. So I'm really sad about the possibilities of lack of combinations for gunner wep
@@mikewasasuke9695 I'm not sure the counter damage gets chain finisher bonus as well, SEGA kinda removed all synergy with other weapons/PAs to Chain sadly so I've just been using the charged sat aim T_T. Overall though if you are planning a multiwep for your TMG to exploit weaknesses on GuFo, I think it will probably math out to a DPS increase assuming the weakness triggers fast enough.
@@everyderepopping chain does need a charged tmg pa but after that doesnt need to be a TMG pa since i use 2x satelite aim + deadly approach and DA benefits from the damage increase. I haven't tried swapping to another weapon after popping chain trigger or the skill is stated that all damage done after popping chain only applies to tmg so it might be worth testing out.
@@mikewasasuke9695 Oh! Dead Approach would basically fall under TMG PA, I've tested using my TMG+Rifle MultiWep and didn't see an increase in damage after sadly (when using Rifle PAs after a chain pop) Edit: Dead Approach is basically treated as an uncharged TMG PA in the eyes of the game, Sroll also gains a damage bonus on chain. Also it does not have to be a PA specifically to get the damage bonus, as long as it's a TMG it will work. ALTHOUGH I'm not sure if SEGA intends the damage bonus after pop to be TMG only or if it's a bug since there's some buggy stuff atm? Edit#2: Actually lemme test something real fast! Cause it might be server lag I'll reply with my findings! Edit#3: Okay so after testing multiple Bujin kills, the chain increase for damage only applies to TMG itself. So unfortunately it does not apply to any other weapon or other weapon PA. (I tested GuRa/GuFi/GuHu/GuTe weps)
I've been using GuRa for the same reason as you, I loveee the launcher gives a lot of dps when weak point is exposed, anyhow I'm still confused what ranger skill tree should I invest, should I invest my skill points on all ranger skills or not?
So imo, for the Ranger Skill tree I would put 1 point into everything, and rest into which bad condition benefits you more. Bad Condition in general is kinda iffy. This setup does leave you with maxed all Ranger skills except bad condition, so you won't have to worry if you decide to play some Ranger later on! ALSO if you are running GuRa btw, You can choose to remove the 2 points in spread shot on Gunner, and allocate them to 10/10 PP Recovery, and 2/10 Overwhelm if you want! (Spread Shot is shared between Gu and Ra) Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere but should I take spread shot tho? I never use rifles on GuRa only tmg and launcher, and it's a short range skill also with rifle grenadier and slide shot advance, can I not invest those skills and invest remaining skill points to maximize other skills?
@@viperhound3606 So on the Ranger Tree specifically, there's not much to gain for Bad Condition (this is just -Status which isn't a big deal) which leaves you with A LOT of extra points, even if you take spread shot for if you end up using rifle for AoE (homing darts can fill up the bar real quick). I think on my tree since I reset today, I had like 6 extra points after taking spread shot on the Ranger Tree. Gunner Tree, you can 100% ignore spread shot since even for me, I just use majority TMG+Launcher so that leaves 10/10 PP Recovery + 2/10 Overwhelm
Hello, I would like to ask if you're going for Gunner Hunter what is your skill build for the hunter subclass? Thank you so much in advance for replying and for this guide!
Hi! For the Hunter subclass, I have 1 point in everything (for testing purposes + incase I want to use other weapons in the tree). Hunter Physique is at 1/5 because the CD doesn't reduce + the main use is the anti-KB, Flashguard is 1/10, 1 point into warcry (but you can remove this point and put it into flash guard). I have a point in warcry for testing purposes and my current results at the moment is there's not a point to putting a point in it. So i'd reccomend you to put it into flash guard! Hope that answers your question!
Yes! It actually does, and it really helps the pp efficiency + gameplay (Gunner can easily dump all their PP from 100 to 0 real quick, then build it up as you rebuild your chain). Now here's the big issue. If you're talking about the Stylish Roll ATTACK and not the weapon action roll, Stylish Roll takes 10pp to use and gives some decent damage. So what I've been doing since spamming Stylish Roll Attack is incredibly pp inefficient, is Sroll twice, then normal attack/weapon action roll attack once or twice. This usually should be enough PP regen to keep Stylish Roll Attacking (10pp a use). I hope that answers your question and I can answer more questions you have! Edit: Ranger's Dash (Weapon action?) regens PP on hit so using PP recovery will give you more PP every weapon action. Combining this with Launcher's Sticky Bomb (which fills your whole PP bar), and you get some really nutty stuff!
@@everydere Alright, thanks! I definitely see why gunner is a lot better as a main class but I'm running ranger/gunner right now and both the pp recovery and blight rounds+stylish onslaught are really fun to switch in between.
@@cyber2952 Same actually! I'm running RaGu to do insane memes with the rifle+Launcher along with blight rounds. ATM I'm working on making a resurgir Launcher+Rifle multi weapon so I can instant apply blight rounds and switch between them fast.
@@everydere Lmao literally the exact same. Just put together my multi weapon Rifle/Launcher, put blight rounds and fear eraser on the sub palette so I can have them on demand
So unfortunately if you plan on making a multi-weapon, it will always be a Resurgir (I would make a Resurgir Rifle then shove TMG+Launcher ontop of it). Otherwise, I believe Cattelya TMGs + Vialto Launcher would best fit you if you do not wish to multi-wep. I hope that answers your questions!
You can always go Gu/Ra and never use the machineguns or rifles. On the gunner skill-line just get all the PP recov and Overwhelm. The reasoning is that if you have no intention whatsoever to play mainclass gunner, you can ignore literally everything in Gunner's skill tree and only get the Attack PP recovery and Overwhelm, making full use of your 20 skillpoints. Plus, as a mainclass Gunner, you get to enjoy the 130% pprecovery rate instead of the 120% as a subclass Gunner. Now, on your Ranger skill-line, just get all the skills that correlate to launcher (slow landing attack-ranger, slow landing charge-ranger, stickybomb quickreload, launcher charge grouping). You will be left with 16points leftover, that you dont have to put into anything if you dont want to; since I havent seen bad conditions being a big deal atm. Now this advice is only applicable if you dont mind completely cannibalizing the gunner skill-line; meaning if you 100% have no interest whatsoever in playing gunner now, and in the future.
So the only main class ability ranger has is blight rounds, and you can actually ignore it and subclass Ranger and keep playing. The reason for this is because, blight rounds will be applied by someone who has it in content that matters so you're not really losing anything at all. There's no downside to using launcher at all on Gunner especially if you're in a situation where you might want to use it. The passives on ranger are also pretty meh so my whole build is just: grab everything, last points = 1/5 Blight rounds to 5/5, then 1/10 Bad Condition Ward+Reduction. Also as A. S said you can cannibalize your whole Gunner skill tree and just make it 10/10 PP recovery, 10/10 Overwhelm. However, you shouldn't need to do this since 9/10 PP recovery + 1/10 Overwhelm, and Launcher's Sticky Bomb weapon action will upkeep you at 100% PP. (it is possible to throw sticky bomb, start fear eraser, hold it down, hit 10pp, sticky bomb explodes and gives you back 100% PP and you keep fear erasering until 0 pp). Hope that answers your questions! Also thank you @A. S for the advice!
Hi hi 4* guns are random drops, but you can also buy them from the personal shop (they may be expensive though). 4* would either be Resurgir Series or Cattleya Series. I hope that helps you out!
@@haveltrahasdani3547 Yeah so the Personal Shop in PSO2 is kinda weird, basically you can't search the item unless you input the EXACT name or see the weapon ingame. I believe the name is Resurgir Twin Machineguns
@@MrEndless107 Yeah no problem doing That at all! Twin Machineguns are a pretty much efficient weapon on Gunner, and the only weapon you need as well to start playing the class. I hope you'll have a great time with it and I can answer any questions you have on it!
Honestly, probably a coin flip between Fighter and Gunner. Gunner requires you to stay completely in melee range to maximize DPS with point blanks during chain finishers, Fighter requires you to dodge or die but has high rewards with insane single target DPS.
Background: So I didn't plays pso2 but in really into ngs and I want to minmax gunner purely first My question: so im starting to get setup for end game and have money rolling in but can't decide on my armors running 3 Tzvia +30s currently looking to switch with a +40 Cattleya tmg kinda lost on what to go to other than to switch to Resurgir guns if I decide to multi in the future but for now from what I read in a previous comment of yours my wep should be fine until then so what's best augments for wep/armors for pure gunner and preffered endgame armors currently mainly looking for best potential I guess Thank you = ) Ps been grinding Google for hours as well as comments on vids but hard to find the info I need since most is targeted at pso2
So currently the best augments would be to stack completely all the Ranged Weapon Potency % you can, along with potency floor. Use food to supplement your extra potency+PP on Gunner as well. And for preferred endgame armor, this one is a veeeery tricky one. Basically 4* units can get preset skills so your choice (assuming prices on Ship 2 Global are the same-ish across ships). Is to invest 200k+ in a 1% ranged DPS gain but no preset skill (Qual De Armor: units) or, invest in Cattelya/Vialto/Qual De Armors that have a preset skill for approximately 30k-50k average for good ones. Personally for me, the extra 3% damage loss for 9% more Damage Reduction/PP Recovery/PP Speed (Level 3 Preset skills) at the 30k-50k price point, outweighs the 3% DPS loss I would get. On top of this, Gunner is really PP efficient so I could stack more defensive stats or go full PP for more point blank spamming. But in pure minmax terms, the best possible unit would be the 4*s which grant 1% damage WITH a preset on top but that would either require godly RNG or dumping your bank. We also have to take in account Defense Quests drop in August with Braver (~ 1 month from now), which could lead to even better units/weapons that are potentially cheaper or easier to get. So TL;DR: Stack as much Ranged wep Potency as possible, 4* units investment is finnicky so choose between 1% Damage extra for 200k-ish or more comfy QoL but a level 3 Preset Skill at 30k-50k-ish. Also take into account in ~1 month we will have Defense Quests with Braver drop so it may give us easier units or SEGA may change drop rates for Preset Skills to be better. I hope my answer helps you out!
@@commander9531 No problem! If you ever have any questions on any of my videos, I'll be sure to try and help answer them even if it's not related to the video! Also thanks for the sub!
So it's been datamined(?) that your main class will have 10% more damage with main class weapons, I can kinda sorta confirm this from playing RaGu. You can still maximize the Rifle+Launcher damage by playing GuRa it'll just be sliiightly lower than playing RaGu instead (assuming 10% is true, i gotta test it more). The only real thing you'll be missing is blight rounds but someone will apply it for you.
Gunner Fighter is a good combo yes! Twin Daggers are ridiculously fun and can give you awesome aerial mobility + close ranged uptime, Knuckles have some satisfying counters and speed, and I haven't really dabbled much in double saber so I'm still trying to figure out that one! Also on top of this, Fighter gives you Defeat Advantage which at 1/10 is 1% more damage on downed, but 10/10 is 5% more damage on downed states for subclasses.
i have a question about fighter , is fighter worth to main or i should go techter with fighter sub? and what do you think is the highest damage class/sub in the game right now? thanks alot great video
So every class is worth to main. With Fighter your biggest gain is Defeat Enemy Advantage which pretty much allows you to DELETE anything that enters the down state nearly instantly and potentially chain down stains. If you decide on Techer Main, you'll get access to Shifta+Deband which allows you to actually tank more hits + get downs faster (but techter is very popular so you'll usually always have shifta+Deband on anyways). So it's mostly down to preference on what you like in the class itself. Now onto the highest damaging class. Assuming no server lag I've theorycrafted it's FiHu. The reason is because FiHu allows you to get Hunter Physique 1/5 + Flashguard 2/10, and stack that with Overload. That pretty much removes the whole downside of Overload itself. Now with Defeat Enemy Advantage on top of this (Fi gets a HUGE bonus when mainclassed to this skill) On down states, you would have the highest burst possible using any of Fighter's weapons, my preference is towards Twin Daggers on Fighter. Now the weakness to Fighter's kit is actually it's AoE. But that's where the Hunter sub comes into play. When you combine Twin Daggers + Wired Lance, you have the most mobility in the game, the most amount of s, the highest burst potentially atm. But more importantly Wired Lance gives you the ability to INSTANTLY delete huge amounts of mobs due to how broken it's AoE is. So Tl;dr: Highest Damaging class in the game (Based on my theory crafting): Pop Hunter Physique+overload at the same time, Play FiHu with TD for single target/burst, and Wired Lances for AoE. I hope that was able to answer your question!
@@everydere well that was verryy helpfull i was useing fifo since i started the game but i think the PP is manageable without useing force if i have a good rotation .im gone try fihu now , and please upload more builds
@@mohamedsaid2227 No problem! Also if you find some crazy stuff to pull off with knuckles I'd like to know since I haven't really dabbled in them too much!
Hi hi! Full hunter guide is now out! ruclips.net/video/e92tjP-87YQ/видео.html But Subclass wise, 1 point into all weapons you plan on using, 1/5 Hunter Physique, 0/5 Warcry (if you dont plan on using it), rest into Flash Guard. Hope that answers your question!
Hi hi! As long as you have the TMG equipped when attacking, AND you are a gunner main class, you can use Chain+benefit from it on the TMG itself. So basically for example, If you had a Rifle Base with Multiwep TMG on top, When you use a TMG PA, it will begin to start chain, and you would have to normal attack *with the TMG* or bullet rave, to build it up. I hope that clears it up a little, I can go further in depth if you have more questions!
@@knwjb5844 So wired Lance's attacks, do NOT count for chain at all. The only things that count for Chain Trigger are specifically TMG attacks and TMG PAs. Basically, if you are not using a TMG, Chain will not increase or give you any benefits. Hope that answers your question!
Incase some niche use for Gunner only rifle appears honestly, IMO I had it for testing purposes but you can remove the 2 points and put it into 10/10 PP recovery + 2/10 Overwhelm for a 2%-ish more gain to pp recovery.
@@everydere Yeah I find overwhelm is no the most useful thing but its better than something that I wont use, I'm conflicted on the slow fall passives, they help you stay closer to bosses weakspots since as Gunners we have no gap-closer ability, but im thinking Gunner+Hunter (Wire) may be amazing to abuse wire weapon action to stick to the weakspot, so by that point the slowfalls are practically useless or i think so. I would love to hear your opinions about this. Also spamming Onslaught on downed monsters could be better DPS wise than Point Blank, i need do to more testing. So far I'm taking the best way to play gunner could be TMG+Wire Sub using Point blank to start and end chains, Bullet Rave to up your chain and spam Onslaught on downed enemies, but testing is needed. Seems like having fighter as a SUB gives you more PP regen but if you manage properly you wont need it anyway. I would love to hear you talk about all this and give a more informed opinion since you are a more veteran player, sorry about the wall of text and thanks for answering!
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EDIT #4: OKAY HUNTER GUIDE IS LIVE! ruclips.net/video/e92tjP-87YQ/видео.html
EDIT #3: Here's the Gunner Guide referenced: ruclips.net/video/xfi7p1T3iCI/видео.html
Sorry for the delays to the Hunter Guide! The goal is to have it fully dropped Wednesday (assuming no server lag by that point). Thank you all for the support you've given every single one of you and I hope you're all have a great time in New Genesis!
EDIT #1: Also forgot to do a Tl;dr of my content: I make short guides cause I hate 20min+ long guides/information as an MMO player. So I wanna keep making short guides/news/reviews so you can go back to playing the game rather than watch a video! Thank you for the support everyone!
EDIT #2: It was pointed out in a comment and I forgot to mention it here (it is mentioned in the Gunner Guide itself). Bind your weapon action to a comfortable key, like Shift (this is my binding, I've been using), so you can easily access stylish roll/onslaught/Gunner's rolling weapon action. This is a nice QoL that frees up a whole slot on your weapon pallette!
nice, and ive found if you can get a less populated block and can some how magically get a combat zone to your self (ive found 12:00am est to be the best time to do it at) the lag will be minimal!
@@Nopy1998 That's very interesting! I gotta try that out!
Don't you love it when a Nogleth tries to chase a gunner in mid-air.
T_T especially when I mistime my stylish roll and eat the floor OTL
Imo, if you're maining Gunner, you should skip spread shot since you're gonna be on TMG most of the time (Last I checked spread shot only works on Rifles). You can use the points into PP recov and overwhelm instead, which I think is better.
I think NGS's subclasses are really just for the skill tree passives since most of the weapons can maintain 100% uptime which is nice.
Yup! If you have no plans for rifle usage at all on Gunner, I recommend putting those extra to points to get 10/10 PP recovery and 2/10 Overhwhelm as well. This also makes Gu's subclass pp recovery even better once you do that.
Gunner really has no reason to use rifle at all, so yeah spread shot is very low priority on the skill tree
These high quality guides are so helpful, keep it up!
Thank you! I'm planning on uploading one every wednesday and saturday since NGS is out =D Hopefully I can reach the class you enjoy playing soon!
Totally new player here desperately trying to work this game out. Worried about investing in skill trees before really trying everything out, any guide like this is a god send though
No problem! Also welcome to PSO2! I hope you enjoy your stay with the game and have tons of fun! And for skill trees, honestly speaking the passives that you see at the top which are usually 0/10 points (Defeat Advantage from Fi, PP recovery from Gunner, Flash Guard from Hunter) you can pretty much ignore those and get the rest of the skill tree (1 points) to experiment. The game hands you a N-Skill Reset Pass at the very start of the game so it's not too bad! Also when we get more cocoons added (This should come in August with Braver, a katana+bow class), you won't have to worry about SP! On top of this, SEGA hands out SP reset passes anytime they make an adjustment to skills or add skills, so we'll get a guaranteed another one in winter =D. Hope your having a great time in NGS!
top voice to listen and watching anytime. great content
Thank you so much, and I appreciate it! I'll keep making content that's pretty short to the point!
Agreed :)
Made my first gunner today and am already hooked😅❤
Helped me understand my gunner ranger class better with your guides, thanks a ton.
No problem! I hope my future guides can help you out and help you enjoy NGS more!
I only use Gunner as a sub, just for its PP recovery passives. Allows me to spam arts for my Fighter. It's the best sub for dps imo.
Ahoy! Yup FiGu is ridiculous + you can combine it with defeat enemy advantage and defeat pp advantage (forgot the name of FI's skill), for pretty much infinite PP + Ridiculous bursts on downed phases. Its realllly nuts LOL
Not sure if this has been answered. I'm now at the point where I'm torn in choosing Cattleya or Resurgir TMG's; Cattleya provides potency depending on how high health is(up to 5%). Resurgir provides 15%crit on successful dodge for 15 secs, I'd choose Resurgir, but my question is, does the TMG action skill(cartwheel) act as a dodge to proc Resurgir effect? would test this myself however I dont have the tools at my disposal.
Hi! So I don't fully have a resurgir TMG(only have sword atm, trying to get a rifle with presets) but I'm 90% sure it only triggers on side steps dodges exclusively. Luckily you only have to do it once every 30s to maintain the crit buff! Hope that answers your question!
Edit: My plan atm is: Resurgir Rifle(Base), TMG+Launcher added on so i can play GuRa and RaGu
at 3:23 you said to use hunter to get acess to wired lance aerial mobilitie, but you dont need to, multi weapons can use the basic and the weapon skill without using the class itself
Yup! You can either switch to the weapon, or if you multi-weapon I would slot the wired lances' weapon action onto your palette for a faster switch (I didn't have a multiweapon TMG+WL to show off since I don't have a resurgir 4* series yet)
@@everydere So you can use skills from other trees? For instance i've been going Gu/Fi. I can use overload if i've multi-weaponed a fighter weapon?
@@kingcarl1391 Yup! As long as the skill does not explicitly say it's mainclass only, you can use it! So Overload is possible on GuFi because you have Fi subclassed and Overload is not main class only =D
Subjective, but imo 8 attack pp recovery / 2 overwhelm is better than 9/1 - the 2nd point gives 2% instead of the 1% the rest of the points give
but that's just -1% recovery on normal enemies for +1% on bosses so it really depends which you care about more (and also doesn't matter that much anyway :p)
Yup you can do that too! It's mostly preference since the extra +1% isn't really noticeable, alternatively if you don't plan on using rifle on gunner at all you could take the 2 points and make 10/10 PP recovery and 2/10 overwhelm (I might end up doing this later down the road after the winter update).
If Gunner Hunter is specifically only for wired lances and not the hunter skill tree's passives and PA's, if the only thing you want is the wired lances gap closer it's possible to multi-weapon the tmg + wired lances and you'll still gain the wired lances gap closer (weapon attack) if you don't subclass hunter. The catch is you won't gain the wired lances PA's which I don't use anyways because I'm trying to increase my chain. Subclassing fighter and having that multi-weapon would still give you the gap closer and also increased damage to downed enemies.
Interesting! Did not know that! Personally I've pretty much settled on GuRa for access to launcher, and also access to RaGu (Resurgir rifle + TMG/Launcher Multi is the plan).
Yo I just realized that's a Kunimitsu look you got going on, there. That, and the Tag 2 music! Nice.
You're so kind and helpful! Keep doing this.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I hope you have a great day!
I don't know if this is a dumb question, but seeing the potency of Bullet Rave, isn't it technically the most efficient way to play if you just do a charged bullet rave, spam more bullet rave until you're out of PP due to the fast multiple hits, do normal attacks to regain PP, then spam Bullet Rave again until you end the chain with a charged Bullet Rave and use the next charged Bullet Rave nearly immediately to start a new chain?
I don't really understand which situations would justify using the other PAs, and while I love gunner that is kind of a turnoff for me so far. I'd love your take on when to use which PA effectively
So that's actually not a dumb question at all! On the onset, bullet rave appears to be extremely strong and you are correct, it seems that you would be spamming it 24/7. Potency values show that it is extremely high potency and everything lines up for it to be the most used PA. Now here's where everything starts flipping on it's head.
So the fatal flaw to Bullet Rave is that the damage on it is COMPLETELY back loaded. This means that if you do not hit that final hit in Bullet Rave, the damage is actually incredibly low. So in theory Chain Boost with 120% attack speed would actually make this the go to move since it speeds it up. But from practicing and testing, I've found that WITH the 120% attack speed buff, if you do: Charged Point Blank/Bullet Rave to start your chain, then DUMP all your pp into UNCHARGED Point Blanks, and regen your pp via normal attacks to build it up back to 100 before ending with a charged point blank + multiple uncharged point blanks and an onslaught back to 0 pp (This damage is modfiied by Chain Trigger's Finisher damage bonus, so this hits HARD). Your DPS is actually significantly higher than spamming bullet rave alone.
Point Blank has a slightly less potency on paper to Bullet Rave, however the animation for Point Blank is INCREDIBLY faster than bullet rave meaning you can PP dump and keep your DPS high by spamming this. Now since you HAVE to be within close range to do this, this is here Stylish Roll Strike Back comes into play. Every single time you successfully dodge with the weapon action, you flash blue + hear the ping, now your NEXT Photon Art is augmented by 20% Potency and 20% (pp cost). Since point blank already costs a low amount of PP, and your normal attack should generate approximately 20pp every normal. You can basically repeatedly spam point blank 24/7 while staying in melee range to take advantage of the counter damage.
Now for aimless rain, that one is just AoE and you kinda just let it rip.
So TL;DR: Build your chain boost ASAP to 120%, switch to spamming point blank + abusing weapon action/Stylish Roll's iFrames+Counter to increase your damage to high as hell. When the boss is out of reach due to gunner's lack of mobility (Unless you slot Hunter/Fighter for Wired Lance or Twin Dagger Movement), Spam Bullet Rave until the boss comes down for another ass kicking.
Hope that clarifies your question and helps out!
That sounds significantly more fun than what I have been doing, and much better at that! I didn't consider the damage on bullet rave being so back-loaded at all.
Thanks a bunch!
Was a gunner main in base PSO2, and I have to say Gu back then was more complicated and niche, but a lot more fun. Well-timed S-rolls allowed for true, permanent aerial combat, and the PA that was the equivalent to onslaught seemed to be a lot more useful. I still like gunner but I find ranger a lot more fun right now. The launcher is amazing in NGS :3
Same! I was a Gunner main until Luster (I just realllllly love gun blades T_T), the class now is suuuper accessible and I'm really happy more people are getting into it. I also really love the chain trigger changes to be literal speed incarnate. Also I'm hoping we can get Grim Barrage back as a Class Skill/PA in Winter, because I really miss staying in the air 24/7! Also I've also found Ranger a lot more fun recently and have been devoting A LOT of time to it!
I never played Gunner on base but for me it looks so more appealing in ngs then base for me. I ended up swapping from braver main to rifle phantom main after I maxed it and started playing around with it. ra/gu feels like a blast to me with being able to switch in the fast paced gunner abilities with ease! once I hit level 20 on ranger Im thinking about trying out something with a counter cause I really miss getting a counter off like I could on phantom. Awesome video ^-^
Ohhh I enjoyed rifle phantom so much on PSO2 OG too! RaGu is currently what I'm playing as I test stuff for Saturday's ranger video and I'm having a blast (literally cause of launcher ayyyyy). I hope you enjoy gunner cause it's really really fun also thank you for the compliment!
Had no idea this game would be this fun
Yup! NGS is wildly fun and I love it A LOT! It's one of those games I come to, have a great time in it, and never really get bored. But the nice thing is when you take a break in NGS/PSO2, when you come back it doesn't take that long to catch up back to the current content too! Glad you're having fun!
I cried a bit on the inside when I saw that Iron Will doesn't work for Hunter as a subclass anymore like original PSO2.
A sad price to pay for an infinitely better chain trigger ;_;
I think original PSO2 had a real problem of the meta just being slap hunter onto everything. By making that a hunter-specific gimmick, I think it opens up the viability of more diverse sub-class selections.
@@cosmosofinfinity true since just about everything is viable. Especially ranger since status effects really hurt since they can last up to 30 seconds and there's no recovery items for them yet
Ayyeee nice vid! You're well beyond 100 subs!!
Thank you so much! And Yeah! I threw a little celebration party for myself after we broke 100 subs and it's pretty crazy to see the sub count currently!
does ppl even use dodge on gunner? I feel like it is better to use stylist roll (or whatever that mouse 3 name is)? and any good way to use auto lock on weakpoint sometimes it just goes to target whole part of the boss/moster that I need to attack especially when boss is down and it still try to lock at their feets/wings(make me use Z to manually aim sometimes)?
So honestly the lockon situation is something that PSO2 has struggled with even in it's earliest days, unfortunately you'll just have to spam relocking on (Q) while staring at the general area you want to target.
Now onto dodge, on Gunner specifically it's pretty rare to use it due to how powerful+versatile your weapon action is. There's some times you'll want to use it like triggering Resurgir's potential which gives you +% crit on successful side step counter, however it's pretty limited on when you should use it.
Overall, I MIGHT sidestep dodge into a projectile occasionally to use the sidestep shot if the enemy is semi far away and I am running directly at it.
I hope that was able to answer your questions or clear up anything!
One downside about NGs gunner is that you can't get attitude anymore with S-Roll.
In base PSO2, I was able to stay in the air for as long as I want and now I can't do that anymore.
Yup and to make matters worse, we don't have a skill like grim barrage which lets us fly directly towards what we're locked on. On the bright side though, we now have Bullet Rave which is functionally a better True Equilibrium (it's a combo between Hero's TMG 3 shot and Elder Rebellion's big final shot)! Im hoping the winter update will give us a class skill to change our weapon action into a homing moving one (Maybe Forward + Weapon action = You basically Grim barrage?).
You can get a gap closer if you multiweapon the tmgs with a wired lance tho, their weapon action is really good to home in quickly into a weakspot and pop the chain for full damage, its like the best option to multiweapon tmgs with just because of that and you don't need to have hunter as a sub to use the action! its a win/win
@@Guaporacer Yup and that's one of my favorite combos too! It's really really really fun to use, and with hunter's physique, you can use it as a little "30s of no knockback" too!
Fighter/hunter twin daggers and sword. Amazing mobility can stay in the air 100% all the time! With daggers and slow fall charge PAs with hunter. I run multi weapons daggers/swords. PA I run front pallet= daggers normal attack/Circling Blizzard/Dagger weapon action back 3 are Helzeus Coat/Twisting Zapper/Calibur Streak. This gives you charge gap closer gives you best Mobbing AOE with swords Twisting Zapper and insane single target weak point damage with daggers and you use Calibur when target isn’t moving and can chain Circling Buzzard into it while Calibur is still doing damage it’s pretty insane!
Yup and HOOOOO Man when it gets downed and you're on FiHu? BOOM. BAP. DEAD with Defeat Enemy Advantage+Overload+Calibur Streak damage. Its REALLLLLLY fun to play FiHu and I'm so glad you're enjoying it a lot! Honestly for me, the hardest decision which I think about every day is do I like GuRa, RaGu, or FiHu the most LOL.
@@everydere yeah Gu/RA or Ra/Gu are my second favorite as well ive always played melee close range but i enjoy playing a bit of mid range to long range at times! really loving the changes they made to NG where not every class needs hunter sub anymore lol
A tip I like is to build 100 chain fast use bullet rave and cancel the slow final shot with a regular attack, then bullet rave again and repeat this. Bullet rave adds hits to the chain super fast unless you let the slow final shot go off. Once you have 100 chain pop it with a full PA and then you want to let your full PAs go off during the chain boost period. I find this useful for keeping really high uptime on chain boost.
Now if only I could find a use for the close range double shot PA
Yup! I actually covered that tip in my gunner guide here: ruclips.net/video/xfi7p1T3iCI/видео.html ! Also for point blank, once you hit 120% attack speed, you actually get a lot of DPS from just dumping your PP to 0 by spamming it uncharged, then using a combination of bullet rave, sroll, normal attacks, and weapon action to regen your pp during chain building =D. I do this frequently in UQs against bosses and it results in some really high DPS (Sroll counter also pads this by making point blank hit even harder).
@@everydere I didn't think of that. The potency is like half of bullet rave but I think in the time I do 1 bullet rave I can do like 3 point blanks. Hmm! I might try that thanks haha. I really wish there was a dps meter so I can test things better. Or that the PAs had the amount of time it takes per use on them. I had to time it myself. Bullet rave is around 3 seconds from first click to full animation finish. Point blank is about 1 second animations which means for like triple the PP use you can get 50% more dps from point blank for a short burst. Probably really good for downed phases.
This also makes Fighter as subclass a little interesting for the downed phase buffs even though they are pretty low for subclass compared to main class hehe.
@@erebus728 Oh man if everything aligns (I've tested this on GuFi), blowing a 100 chain + having full 120% atk speed, on a break/downed phase on a weak point, lets you unleash such a ridiculous amount of burst in a short amount of time from cramming a charged point blank into multiple normal point blanks + onslaught if you have 10pp left. You'll really enjoy the crazy numbers tbh LOL. I have approximately 160-ish PP with food + my old PSO2 units anddd man it is A LOT of point blanks really fast. I hope the new affixes+units lets us get 200pp relatively soon!
@@everydere wow thanks for this. I'm all about learning how to dps as best I can. What I am still unsure of is should I just blow the chain at 81+? I keep waiting to 100 cause I thought 100 gives you 20% attack speed but now it seems like I'm misunderstanding. Apparently I have to stack two chain boost and keep it rolling?
@@erebus728 Yup 81 gives you the 5% ATK speed bonus (correct me if I'm wrong btw), and since reload would make the CT ~3s(?) cool down, you can repeatedly build 81+ to get that full 120% and it's reallly noticeable from the first 81+ break. I usually blow the first chain at 81, then the consecutive chains at 100 since the first chain without chain boost, is always the slowest.
For maintaining chain boost, if there is a scenario where it messed up (mainly due to server lag), I'll blow my chain early to upkeep the chainboost 120% speed buff (CB lasts 45s, at
I'm really goddamn loving the gunner the only thing I want is anything just about anything to keep me in the air longer. I'll even take a skill with CD if that means I can constantly stay up in the air.
Yup! I really hope we had grim barrage from the original PSO2 now , so we can fly through the air and stay in there indefinitely T_T it was my favorite PA when it got introduced.
@@everydere totally agreed it'd be amazing to have a skill like that. In base pso2 my favorite class was bouncer simply because I really loved the weapon action and that grand weave skill with encore jump it was just fun to play around with. It'd be crazy if gunner can have something similar to encore jump maybe gunner shoots downward and propels up charging any of the PA it'd also be a amazing chain starter on the air. Now I'm just dreaming xD
I love the launcher too, it grows on you
It's really really fun! There's some cool videos I've seen with people using Launcher and it's great!
I do have a post-vid question that wasnt answered and the main reason im on YT now searching gunner vids:
1.) I don't understand Stylish Roll "while Weapon Action is active (I guess they mean while you are mid-dodge thingy), pressing the PA button(? I guess they mean using forEx:Bullet Rave) will do some 'high potency attack'. I can't seem to get this to work or I am not noticing anything happening. (EDIT I think I am seeing what this is, it almost looks like the normal auto attack but just blue. it doesnt seem very powerful but I'm pretty sure I figured this one out at least)
2.) Stylish Roll Strike Back: I guess I am not QUITE sure what they mean by a 'successful' dodge as I have experimented with this by just dodging around an enemy, specifically trying to dodge through projectiles and stuff but I never notice any buff occur. is there no visual cue or anything? and is the buff so miniscule that I just am not noticing the extra PP cost for extra potency increase? I don't really notice either of those two things occurring.
3.) Spread Shot: Spend WHAT gauge that was built up by attacks? Its AR only, so do Gunners typically switch to an AR to do this move and quickly swap back to their Machine Guns?
PS I am sorry if I am a bit clueless/slow ^ v ^ this is also my first time ever playing any PSO game and I just picked it up recently. and sorry for the wall of text, I'm trying to be descriptive to accurately point out where my confusions are. thank you!
No problem I'll answer all of these for you!
1) So Stylish Roll is activated by pressing the weapon action while HOLDING down a PA, you'll notice that it makes a different sound effect as you roll + your attack will look slightly different. Stylish Roll will have the same general properties + animation as weapon action so that indicator is how you tell you activated it. If you did it properly, you'll notice you will lose 10 PP and your damage during those shots will actually be more than normal.
2) Okay so this one is kinda hard to notice depending on how your sound options are. So when you successfully dodge an attack using the weapon action, you will see a REALLY light blue flash on your character+ a light sounding ping noise. When this ping noise happens, your next PA will cost 20% and your potency will be increased by 20% total, I usually treat this more as a of "Okay I dodged, so my next point blank/bullet rave is more damage" rather than trying to save the buff. So overall to really try and see this one, head to the cocoon "Defeat The Enhanced Enemy" where you fight a pettas sword that has an enhancement core, and continuously dodge the sword. You'll see the blue flash + hear the ping and it'll make it easier to notice.
3) So Spread Shot is actually an interesting one, you'll have to open up your subpalette and put Spread Shot (it is an active skill, not a passive skill) onto your hot bar. It will build a gauge when you use assault rifle and this allows you do to do spread shot. Now, for gameplay purposes, TMGs are pretty self sufficient and with how good TMGs are + Chain boost and Chain Trigger, you will frequently find yourself not really needing to use the rifle. So overall if you don't want to use spreadshot, you can save 2 SP and put it towards 10/10 PP Recovery and 2/10 Overwhelm for more PP regeneration. But if you do slot Gunner Ranger for example, and you have spread shot on the ranger tree, You can use spreadshot without having it on your main class. So basic Tl;dr is: You can actually use TMGs 24/7 and Rifle is more of a preference thing/change of pace for you.
Also don't worry about asking too many questions! Welcome to PSO2! My goal honestly is to help people learn the game so they can enjoy it since there's a lot of questions I see people asking, but not enough people answering them. I hope I was able to clarify the questions and feel free to ask more!
@@everydere Thank you for such an in-depth and quick reply ! ^ ^
I actually am Gunner / Ranger and you said having the Rangers Spread Shot will allow me to use SS without an AR or did I misread that lol
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I seen you talking up about Launchers, are they something I can (for fun if anything) as a Gnr/Rng, be playing with? and grab Launcher Charge Grouping n stuff?
And a few more questions come to mind that I remember being curious about:
Augments: What are the best augments for a gunner to throw on their MGs? I think I put straight Potency+ x2. I wasnt sure which was better, Potency+ or Potency Floor Increase+. or if there are other augments a gunner will do better using.
and for Armor, I am using Alts/Dolz Soul - maybe theres a better augment I should be using for those as well IDK ^ v ^;
Multi-Weapon: I spent ALL of my money mostly because it was a main-story quest step to do so and I decided to make an AR / MG hybrid. Maybe I should have made a MG / AR hybrid instead? are multi-weapons worth it or should I stick with a pure MG with an AR (and maybe a launcher) on separate equips.
Last but not least: N-Meseta. Since I broke the bank making that Multi-Weapon, I can no longer upgrade my brand new level 14 MGs and Meseta gain has grinded to a near halt. What is/Is there a modest way for me to be farming N-Meseta?
and finally a less pressing issue BUT I also want to farm Base Game Meseta because theres a few cosmetics I would love to have but I notice they range from anywhere from 5mil to like 250mil. Do I need to level up in Base Game and farm Base Game Meseta somewhere? is ~1mil a CRAZY ENDEAVOR that will take all day? lol ^ ^;
@@atrailofblood No problem!
So spread shot is 100% locked to rifle only, so even on GuRa with Spread Shot on the Ra tree, you will need to have a rifle currently equipped to use it.
Launcher can only be used if you do GuRa or RaGu (I switch between these two frequently), and they are surprisingly a lot of fun! Usually my rotation on bosses, assuming I can't get the ability to stand without being hit. Is to Fallen Impact then Multi-Hit and keep doing that. Now if the boss is not aggressive towards me or its a down phase, I use Fallen Impact followed by throwing a sticky bomb (Launcher Weapon Action), and Fear Eraser hold down. If you do this correctly, the bomb detonates during Fear Eraser's second enhanced damage portion, giving you a whole PP bar of pure damage.
Now onto augments, the best augments would be to just slot pure potency on your TMGs AT THE MOMENT. But, I personally need to do more testing because potency floor increase lets you hit your max damage # more often and damage is slightly back loaded on your hits. Now, majority of the time at 120% Chain Boost, you'll be spamming point blank so personally I think Potency is better than potency floor.
Multi-weapons are personal preference, imo I have my previous OG PSO2 15* Tmgs and they work pretty decently. I will end up working on my NGS weapons+Units to replace my OG Gear eventually but at the moment, the game's kinda buggy sometimes so out of safety I'm not really focusing too much on it. And your choice is correct! There is a hidden 10% potency buff for your main class weapon, so a Rifle is classified as main class weapon for BOTH Gunner and Ranger meaning, a Multiweapon Rifle would be more beneficial because you can put TMG+Launcher on it, allowing you to fully play RaGu or GuRa at any point in time! Personally, I am probably going to stick to separate weapons at the moment because I have access to my TMGs, but I will end up moving towards a Rifle Multiweapon as NGS progresses.
N-Meseta is scuffed and the upgrading fees at the moment are extremely expensive. So the benefit of multi-weapons is that you don't spend WAYYYYYYYY more N-Meseta by making 3 weapons (Rifle+Launcher+TMG). Instead you dump it into one, then multi weapon the others onto it. So currently the only real way to farm N-Meseta honestly speaking is to just get a 30 day shop pass for 7$ and sell resurgir weapon drops/other drops onto the market. In terms of grinding for it, you can passively get money by doing random farming, also red boxes randomly will give you 10k. Also you do have weekly N-Meseta quests which reward 500k(?) a week and you can do it once per account per week.
Now Base Game Meseta, you're actually in luck! The video that started this channel and all my stuff was actually a Meseta Guide which works no matter what update we're on: ruclips.net/video/eCjY6LR7uD4/видео.html . Now there's a couple caveats about it which is Cradle of Darkness was giving us approximately 20m+ within a short amount of time but it required a full party. Since the majority will no longer be playing PSO2 OG this becomes a little be more impossible. So the best course of action in base PSO2 is to hit level 50 per char you have, then do your weeklies (this will reward 6m a week if you have 3 characters). Weeklies are pretty fast to do, but if you get 10 daily orders as a weekly, skip it imo to save yourself time.
Hope that answers your questions!
@@everydere Thank you very much again! ^ ^ I appreciate it greatly. Cleared up a lot of my confusions. also your character looks great and you have a nice voice so I subbed hehe ANYWAYSS thanks very much for taking the time !! you've been a great help!
I personally feel I get more out of the gunner by only having three abilities equipped. The rapid fire, the weapon action and the AoE. I use the subclasses exclusively for the passives.
Rotation tends to be pretty simple - Activate chain trigger, if large groups then use AoEs full combo string including the final hit until 100 combo meter then go for a big AoE. I tend to use these in PSE bursts. or,
Activate chain trigger, if single enemy or boss spam your rapid fire as quickly as you can to 100 without using the final hit then go for a full powered rapid fire with the final hit.
Of course dodging with weapon skill and building up PP with basic attacks is mixed in with all of these as-and-when required, but gunner, although I find it fun and it does a lot of damage, feels very simple right now, and after about 70 hours of using it I feel that this rotation puts out the most damage. There could be better ways of doing it but I usually end up being the focus of boss attention. I don't find that subclasses really add anything substantial. I stuck with ranger for the extra bad condition reduction and ward. I didn't bother getting spreadshot because I never use a rifle and stylish onslaught isn't worth it, so 10 points in PP recovery and 3 in overwhelm.
If this isn't viable or if there're better methods I'd like to know, I'm just using what I've surmised so far.
Oh luckily my latest gunner video actually covered that for rotations!:
ruclips.net/video/5apBDXjp4A8/видео.html
Tl;dw: Bullet Rave's final hit is always a DPS loss, Point Blank deals more damage because Gunner has 2 Critical Ranges ( Medium Distance + Close), Strike Back amplifies point blank damage to a ridiculous degree because of gunner's close crit range. And then chain building is Bullet Rave minus the final hit to 81~90, WA to 120pp, then Charged PB into uncharged PB spam for the max Chain Trigger Finish, slap an onslaught at the end if you have 130 PP. (This Chain rotation deals more potency than a normal charged bullet rave + Finisher).
Stylish Onslaught is actually useful since it lets you + deal solid DPS straight through multi-hit attacks, but other times Strike Back is better with Point Blank.
AoE rotation is pretty much as you described for PSE bursts aka just spam Aimless Rain.
And for subclass choices, you're spot on. Gunner's so self contained and perfect that it makes it's subclass choice pretty much anything you want. I run GuFo since the extra PP from PP Eradication Gain = Infinite Aimless rains. But also during a burst/downed phase, 1/5 PP convert gives you infinite PP so you never weapon action but keep spamming uncharged point blanks for max damage.
Hope that helps expand your gunner gameplay!
@@everydere That helps a lot, I'll try and incorporate that into my rotations, thanks for the advice. I'll check out the video as well.
U might not answer, but how the hell do u get clothing, im trying to go into the old pso2 to get clothing but I get kicked and my friend gets in the old pso2 fine?
So basically over the last couple days, it's been hit or miss heading back to Old PSO2. At the moment, I think it's still scuffed (sometimes I can get back, but sometimes it just boots me immediately). So pretty much you'll have to wait for SEGA to run a maint to fix it (next maint should pretty much fix all the issues they've been publishing on ngs.pso2.com). Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere thank you very much
@@DuckyonQuack. No problem! If you have any more questions, I can gladly answer them!
found this channel via your character afk in town >.>..... *gives head pat* good video by the way
Ohhh thank you so much LOL! I hope I can make some content that helps you out!
@@everydere the melee experience is brutal xD
@@Nopy1998 Luckily I'll have the hunter guide on wednesday so it might help out! But yeah I agree, at the moment with all the lag the melee experience is definitely not as good as it should be T_T. When I was testing things to break down Hunter completely, I was like "okay perfect lets see how many -- Oh no the numbers aren't popping up and the server is frozen"
Thank you for the guide! But as u said, people should be using TMG when playing gunner, so why pig the spread shot which requires us to use assault rifle?
Hi hi! Rifle is actually Gunner's second weapon (It's TMG+Rifle), Your other choices would be a 1-2% more pp recovery gain which isn't noticeable, so might as well pick up spread shot + spread shot getaway if you plan on trying out GuRa or plan on trying to see if rifle fits in your playstyle (Homing Darts can actually deal some crazy damage to multiple targets or multiple points at once with 0 effort). Hope that answers your question!
Edit: Forgot to clarify, it also makes the Rifle usable on other things besides GuRa incase you want to do GuHu instead. (you could pick spread shot on Ranger to ignore getting spread shot on gunner).
Is there really no way to make over the shoulder aim with Z button use the camera facing direction instead of char? it is the only thing that drives me mad.......
Sadly, there isn't a way at the moment. The over the should aim is treated as a locked "Third Person Shooter" mode style anddd I really wish it had a way to not make it character locked at all. Maybe in the future SEGA might change it but as is, it is currently impossible for it to be camera facing sorry. Hope that was able to answer your question!
Actually you can change that in setting, in options, game mode, or something above control
At 2:46 how did you switch between wl and tmg so quick that is’n multi-weapon right ?
So under your control settings for keyboard (i'm not sure if you can do this on controller), You can change the hotkeys for weapon pallette swapping to either NUMPAD Keys, Top Row Number Keys (1-9), or Function keys (F1-F12). I have it set to Function keys which allows me to easily swap weapons mid animations, or I also bind it to my mouse allowing me to do that as well. I hope that helps answer your question!
Wow i didn’t know that even exist. Thanks a lot man
@@uun4320 No problemo! If you have any other questions feel free to ask!
i've been neglecting to use any of my sub-class weapons & PA's... Still doing just fine with only machineguns, honestly.
Yup the greatest addition to New Genesis, is how not impactful subclasses are. I use GuRa tbh just to meme with the Launcher/enhance my gunner's rifle when i feel like having a change of pace. GuHu to meme on Daryl Sword by WA-ing straight to the chest and spamming point blank+sroll+onslaught until it instant breaks.
Nice video. I think you will achieve 1k subs really fast.
Thank you so much! If we hit 1k subs thattt would actually be insane (my goal was literally just 100 to be honest). But even if we don't hit 1k, I'll still be producing short condensed videos so people don't have to sift through 20min long MMO vids (this is my biggest gripe in current MMO gaming, happens with every game now ;_;).
Would you ever recommend using rifle on Gunner ever? I know all of chain trigger is TMG only, but I still am a fan of rifle's PAs and stuff. I was thinking of making a multi-weapon for Gunner to have the normal PAs and stuff for rifle, but keep the dodge (since the s don't seem to work on Ranger's WA even though it says it's supposed to?) from TMG just to give me some more security while using rifle.
Otherwise, is wired lance heavily recommended for the WA with TMG? I like the WA, but I feel like it's always a bit shorter than I expect, or sometimes it connects but doesn't pull me in.
Really enjoying Gunner so far though! I've tried all the different classes and I'm -pretty sure- that I like Gunner best. It's so hard to decide though!
So Rifle Gunner is a kinda complicated subject, but it comes down mostly to it's usable but you won't have access to grenadier unless you have the Ranger subclass. Now if you are a fan of Rifle's PAs, there's really not a reason not to use rifle since even without grenadier, Rifle is still a really good weapon to use! Overall, Gunner's TMGs will be the primary focus of the class due to how chain works + benefits TMGs, but you can still use a rifle and you may even find some cool tech to do with it!
For wired lance usage, It's mostly situational and more for getting up to the weak points, but you don't really need it on Gunner due to how bosses are designed at the moment. Petas Veras for example, has little photon boost things that allow you to glide from them, into petas' chest/weak point areas. Bullet Rave also is Gunner's go to "I can't reach the target" move and it's pretty strong as well. So basically, you can use wired lance to minmax point blank usage but it's not overly necessary at all!
Now IMO I think once SEGA starts introducing bosses that require more vertical combat, we'll also be receiving class skills that accommodate that (OG PSO2 Gunner got Grim barrage which allows them to fly towards anything they're targeting).
Also really glad you're enjoying Gunner! I hope you're having tons of fun in NGS and always remember to test any combination you really like! The best part of NGS, is how we're able to do virtually anything at the moment!
@@everydere That makes a lot of sense, thanks! I think I'll probably hold off on the WA until I get a much better feel for Gunner. I've been bouncing around all the classes and like a lot of aspects of each, but I want to say Gunner has all the stuff I like the most. Close range dodging fun, but not necessarily required to deal damage at all, a cool class mechanic for DPSing bosses, and all that good stuff.
I hope we get more options down the line! I'd really like a mini-limit break like Talis has for example, just to have a big button to press every once and a while that isn't just the photon burst. Only thing about Gunner is that I just have no active skills that are directly related to TMGs.
Still, having tons of fun! Only thing I'm a little confused about still is what the purpose of the weapon action -> PA thing. I forget the name off the top of my head, but.. What do you use it for exactly? Is it a quick way of capitalizing on the bonus potency from dodging something, or just a quick follow up attack for a dodge?
Good video. Thank a lot for the guide and clarification
No problem! glad you were able to learn some stuff!
After you pop chain trigger what is your combo? Do you spam close bullet or bullet rave or something else
So my rotation for chain trigger (I'm planning on making a more in depth video to explain Bullet Rave vs Point Blank later):
Boss too Far + Chain Boost about to fall off?:
> Charged Bullet Rave ( 660 Pot, Triggers Chain)
> Bullet Rave (Finisher damage falls off midway)
Total Potency under finisher: ~800-ish
Boss is close:
> Charged Point Blank (Triggers Chain)
> Point Blank x 4
> Onslaught
Total Potency under finisher: 1.4k~ish Minimum
These are both assuming you have 120% Attack Speed boost from triggering 4 chains at 81+ (Chain Boost)
Hope that helps you out!
Im gonna use this class till they release bouncer. Gunner is really fun to play.
I'm really excited for Bouncer! I can't wait to see what they do for dual blades + jet boots in New Genesis!
Your vid makes me feel big brain for going Gu/Hu with TMG multi'd into a Wirelance. Any input on this multi-weapon, but skipping hunter in favour of Fi or Fo? The added tankiness from hunter is great, and I miss the block on the wire weapon action if I switch. With time and practice though, will stylish roll be enough in terms of defense? Fi's increased damage and PP recovery seems like the 'best' for this weapon setup.
So TMG is actually a pretty self sufficient setup and the defense on it is pretttttty high up on the list. Sroll can dodge straight through everything in the game (i've actually tested this), and has really lenient s. Fi as a sub will give you twin daggers which function similarly to Wired Lances except more flying around. And you are correct too! Fi's increased Damage will help Gunner deal even more damage during burst phases! Overall It's mostly down to a preference on what you personally prefer. Now Force as a subclass can allow some nice stuff since Rod is a very versatile and strong weapons well, so you're not really missing out on anything by choosing either one. Soo basically it's down to how you personally prefer to play the class.
Now in terms of your multi-weapon im assuming its TMG base with wiredlance added? and that's A-ok, you can add twin daggers or any fighter weapon of your choosing and still excel! The greatness of new genesis is how open everything is for builds. Hope that answered questions you have!
*TL;DR:* Fi works great, Fo works great, You'll be completely 100% A-ok with just Sroll/TMG Weapon Action for defense.
Does gunner should be called as mid-range class, since it have quite a distance to do damage? Did I do something wrong like if you get closer to the target you'll do more damage or something?
So it's actually a future video I need to make, but basically 120% chain boost makes it so point blank becomes a ridiculous amount of damage. So what you'll be doing usually is choosing between Bullet Rave/Point Blank depending on how far you are at 120% Attack Speed Chain Boost. For popping your chain trigger, you'll want to be doing Charged Point Blank into multiple point blanks because the math on popping with bullet rave is only 660 potency, + maybe 330 potency. You can actually fit upwards to 4-5 point blanks (~1320+ potency) in one chain trigger's finish resulting in a LARGE amount of damage. So basically think of Gunner as more of a 24/7 sustained high DPS class with a VERY strong burst at 100 chain. I hope that answers your questions!
@@everydere it is, thanks :D
You might have answered this one already, but where did you get that weapon skin? I didn't realize that pistols like those were in the game.
Hi hi! My TMG skins are *SH Tridents , they come from OG PSO2 and you can still buy them from the player shops, but it'll take some Meseta grinding to get it though. Hope that answers your question!
I’m new to this game but I love wired lancer but how did you do the Wired lance move where it looked like a lasso spinning
Hi hi! So you'll want to hit the target with the weapon action, and then hold the weapon action along with a side input. You'll start doing the Lasso attack and rapidly regen PP while dealing tons of damage and stunlocking!
Gunner is really fun and the mobility for dodging attacks is amazing. I use a hunter sub and find it pretty fun but might change to ranger
I usually switch between the two! Along with GuFo for aimless rain spam during grinding. Also it was pointed out in a comment, but you can actually use the wired lances' weapon action just not the PAs if you don't have Hunter as a sub! I needa do some testing with it to see if it's worth losing Hunter's extra WL skills, but it definitely opens up even more class possibilities!
nice content keep it up!
Thank you so much!
I was planning to play gunner with the force/ranger as sub class. Is it any good if I do a resurgir TMG + talis as a multi weapon? Right now my main class is a ranger with a foursis rifle
TMG + Talis can work I believe, I'm not sure about the synergies on it but I think with some experimentation, you can find some crazy stuff to pull off! Also GuFo allows you to have virtually infinite PP too when mobbing, so if the combo doesn't work out, you'll still have a strong subclass! GuRa basically makes Gunner's Rifle good due to grenadier+more s on weapon action along with access to Launcher. Overall, I'd say it comes down to experimenting to see if you enjoy the combo itself! Personally I've been playing RaGu/RaFo recently for infinite PP dumping shenanigans
I just got resurgir launcher, do you think I should go for resurgir TMG + launcher as a multiweapon for GuRa? Or looking for a resurgir rifle and then make a rifle(base)+TMG+launcher? We can use it for RaGu too right?
Btw Im sorry if my English is bad😅
is that the marvel 2 menu select noise for the intro?
YUP! So far only two people have noticed it!
Why i would use other weapon if chain boost is based only on TMG? I spent the same points knowing i wont even use spreadshoot 99.99% of the times
There were some questions floating around since CBT you could trigger chain + gain the chain finisher damage, and Chain boost speed with other weapon PAs (this was a glitch and lead to some HILARIOUSLY high hunter sword damage). So in full release, I decided to clarify the mechanics of chain trigger and its effects, so people can understand it is 100% completely locked to TMG now.
Is it worth multi weaponing wired lance to a TMG just for the weapon action? Or would just using a wired lance be enough for the WA?
So imo because Cattelya TMGs exist and Resurgir's potential is slightly useless for TMGs (due to barely using side steps). I would probably just use Cattelya TMGs and switch palettes to your Wired Lance when you need the gap closer (You don't have to have Hunter as a subclass to do this, you can access Wired Lance's weapon action without the subclass! You just lose out on extra stuff for it).
Hope that helps your decision making!
Are the stylish roll skills just not strong enough damage-wise to justify a gu sub use?
Cause that's kind of the vibe l'm getting from these gunner videos.
Yup, unfortunately TMGs are in general slow, huge animation locks, and wayy lower DPS when you don't have access to Chain Boost. So pretty much Gunner as a subclass would be primarily for PP regeneration.
@@everydere
It's a shame Rifle got the Hero TMG treatment when base TMG needed it the most, yeah.
Been running Gunner/Ranger, and Ranger/Gunner as I get my Ranger to 20. Honestly, either way is great. Although Ranger/Gunner gets Blight Rounds so I kinda prefer it for bosses.
Same! I heavily enjoy both ways and i agree with bosses, I prefer using launcher+rifle on a boss but if i'm feeling cheeky i'll use TMGs and go nuts during downed phases!
I'm using Gunner/Ranger with a TMG/launcher multiweapon. My favorite thing about that is when a monster turns its weak point away from me, I can use Multi-Launch PA from the launcher to hit the weak spot even though I don't have line of sight. Lots of fun to play.
I find Chain Trigger has a fun and interesting rotation, but I am curious about optimal damage output.
It really doesn't matter how high and fast you get the combo from 1-100, when the activated buff scales down the duration from 30secs to 3secs anyway. (If you activate the combo at 1 hit, it lasts 28 secs. If you activate at 100 hits, it lasts 3secs, regardless if you got to 100 hits in 4 secs during a PSE Burst or if it took 2 mins to do it.) Generally, I just complete the Chain when I hit 30-40 to split the difference and give myself enough time to have a buff active, but I really have no dmg meter to confirm this is the correct course of action.
So generally I try and aim for 81+ (assuming you have the 120% Chain boost, since it'll speed up this fast)
So my rotation is basically:
> Build 4x 81 Chains and pop them (This gives 120% ASPD Chain Boost)
> Chain Build up phase @ 120% ASPD:
1-75 = PP DUMP LIKE CRAZY (Sroll/Point Blank Spam/Normal attacks for more pp for Srolls)
75~100 = Weapon Action + Normal Attack spam back to full pp and hit 100 chain
@ 100 Chain:
> *If Chain Boost is falling off from messing up previously or boss is running away:*
Charged Bullet Rave -> Bullet Rave (Finisher applies to ~50% of the duration of the 2nd bullet rave)
(~700-800 Potency under Chain Finisher window)
> *If Chain Boost is NOT falling off and you're in melee range:*
Charged Point Blank -> Point Blank Uncharged x3 + Onslaught
(~1200-1400 Potency under chain finisher window)
This basically allows you to continuously use chain to build up to 100 constantly due to the small cooldown in between, while keeping uptime and an infinite string of high sustain inbetween 100 chain pops.
Hope that helps out your theorycrafting adventures!
I found your channel from a comment talking about all the misinformation in now I’m here
Hey and welcome! If you have any questions please ask away! I'll gladly answer anything you are wondering about even if it is not Gunner related!
I just realized that gunner has counter too :v (Perfect normal Dodge + normal attack). It deals a ton of damage and longer i frame. Perfect for fighting bujin :v
Yup! Gunner has a counter and on top of that, sroll counter pumps up your damage as well. If you're at 120% ASPD Chain Boost, you can use SRoll Counter to pump out a super fast high damaging point blank!
I had the tmg drop from the giga today. Do you think they would be the best for dps once maxed out? Thanks 👍
So imo the most common Gunner Subs are Fo/Fi, so by taking the Straga Tmgs you will get -10% Damage Resistance which is something you'll have to factor in. If you're not okay with the -10/-8% DR, then I would go down the Cattelya route which promotes you maintaining max HP instead (this is behind straga by 1%).
However, if you're going for pure theoretical highest damage, Straga would win out vs Cattelya by 1% and 1 damage. Now the part that gets messed up here, is you can probably find a Cattelya Machine Gun with a Preset Skill like Fixa Attack cheaper than Straga, which would then make the Cattelya above Straga with no preset. Sooo it really does come down to your priorities + how much you're willing to invest! (Imo, I ended up taking the Cattelya Route since Fixa Attack/Fixa Termina on those was wayyyyyyyyy cheaper than a Straga version)
Hope that helps you out a little!
@@everydere ok thanks for the reply 👍. My cattelya I use dropped with fixa attack +1, not the best but as I've made them +40 I guess I'm better just sticking with them.
Do you know if Resurgir TMG potential works with TMG weapon action, cause I never sidestep, so it seems really bad.
Hi hi! I don't believe it works with the weapon action unfortunately, side stepping is kinda rare for me too so I only use it if I am planning on setting up multiple side step attacks (back to back). Overall I find the resurgir series multiweapon is more geared towards Ranger since Launcher+Rifle will utilize side step wayy more than TMG. Hope that answers your question!
Also if you're wondering what I'm using in the mean time as I test stuff, it's just a cras TMG that i have from OG PSO2 as my placeholder until i really decide which 4* to invest in for gunner.
Is that a health bar in the dragon boss fight??? How the hell do you do that
Its the Urgent Quest version not the random encounter in the forest.
Yup as Aradia said, the UQ variant of the dragon features a down damage bar and a health bar to tell you when each phase is happening. It's really freakin cool tbh!
What keybind do you have to change to swap between weapons so quickly? (Like how you swapped from TMG to Wire without bringing up the scrolling menu)
Hi hi! Under Keybind Settings (Keyboard), the switch palettes binding allows you to instantly switch between weapons. It's default set to NUM1-0 (i think), so mine is set to F1-F10 for easy access, but I've also bound it to my mouse! Hope that answers your question!
@@everydere It does, appreciate it! What other keybind settings do you recommend for a Gunner player?
@@TriforceKid9746 This one is a game changer if you haven't seen my gunner guide, but bind your weapon action to a comfortable key (I use Shift as my key) this is so you can easily have access to your weapon action/Sroll onslaught/and Sroll attacks. This is also a personal preference, but I bound dodge to E (and rebound confirm to T). This lets me instantly dodge on any class so I can abuse counter damage. Hope that helps you out!
Could you do a guide for Fighter, focused on Daggers?
I don't know why, but I have the feeling that AA are better than PA for fighters. Fighters PA looks flashy but not stronger. I never saw those 200+ damage numbers on fighter as I see on other classes on YT. Not even 100+.
Am I doing something wrong?
Sure ! I'm planning on making one since I'm going through every class, so I'll be sure to touch on the intricacies of fighter. I'm waiting for the server lag to be fixed atm cause I think certain classes can't really shine until we get this lag fixed.
But overall in terms of your current damage, are you using previous PSO2 15* weapons? Because with my current set from previous PSO2 and level 15, I'm at +28% damage(full PSO2 OG units) + I have access to my Cras TMGs which leads to really big numbers. That might be the case for why your damage would be lower buut if you work on your NGS weapons + potential them, it should equal those numbers.
@@everydere well, I'm new to PSO2 in general. So I have nothing preped. I just hot Resurgir Daggers. Didn't test it yet. Also, all 4* weapons have the same atk? I noticed that we have to unlock potencial (the yellow skill), but there are also a different kind of potencial that is red. How do I get the onde I want?
@@joseluisdossantoscruz1102 So the red skill you're seeing is called a Preset Skill, these are completely random and are only available when the weapon drops itself. Potentials are slightly different across the 4* weapons but they're primarily along the same lines of a solid 20%-ish potency increase. So to farm the preset skill you want, you'd have to repeatedly attempt to get the item to drop.
Also since you're new to PSO2 in general, welcome! and don't worry too much about your damage in comparison to other videos (My damage on Gunner is insanely jacked due to how strong my previous 15* is atm with no NGS weapon invested yet).
@@everydere Thanks for that kind reply and the welcome.
If I were to go Gunner/ranger with launcher + rifle, what would the ranger skill tree look like?
Pretty much one point into everything for Ranger and last points into the "subclass" skills. Hope that answers your question!
Sorry i’m new at 3:09 how did you instantly swap a weapon from wire to tmg?
Hi Hi! Under Keybind settings (Keyboard) > Shortcuts, you can change your switch palette setup to instantly switch! (I use F1-F9 to change my weapons instantly)
i have resurgir TMG and i kinda want to multi weapon my TMG with wired lance, do i have to use the 4* one for the wired lance or the *1 are fine since im just using it for gap closer? thanks
Hi hi good question! So 4*s are actually unique in how multi-weaponing works. Basically you need to *match the series* of the weapon to multi-weapon it. This means you'll have to get a Resurgir Wired Lance as well to multi-weapon it.
@@everydere dang i need to spend another 30k on top of 200k for multi lol, thanks for the answer anyway !
Low key my main is gunner with fighter sub that attk on the fighter sub is pretty nice lmao but just the visuals of tmgs is what takes it for me i a reset skill what should I focus on when it comes to a build like that
Hi hi! So honestly speaking, on Fighter sub, the best use of your points would be to shove 10/10 Defeat Advantage, then use the rest of your points on whatever else you want. Now the downside is that current at the moment, we don't have enough SP in the game so you will have to sacrifice some components of fighter meaning it would cripple Fighter in some fashion if you want to play it later on*. Buuut when we do get extra points, I definitely would prioritize Defeat Advantage for more damage against downed enemies, since Gunner is already extremely PP efficient.
I hope that answers your question!
I got my gunner to level 20, even with all the lag, and I just feel bad ass. I wreck things so fast and a lot of the badies can't do anything to you in the air. If I ever were to suggest a skill it would be something that can boost you in the air right away, getting hit tends to stagger you right to the ground.
I agree, back in OG PSO2 we had aerial shooting to instantly shoot us up (pre-double jump era) and it felt pretty nice. I'd love something along the lines of Leaping Dodge added to Gunner's kit to shoot us super high too! Also glad you're having tons of fun with Gunner! Today's lag has been less than normal and it felt REALLLY good to trigger multiple sroll counters today off the UQ!
Figther/Gunner are the best for high burst skill damage, the PP recovery work wonderfull
Yup! Defeat Advantage on Fighter gives insane Downed State Damage so combining that with PP Recovery + Defeat PP Advantage, and you can basically unload on a target from 100% to 0 pp, and keep doing it. My alliance mate uses a Fi combo and it's pretty funny to watch chained downs from how much burst there is.
I've been using gunner since I started on pso2 and I still use pso2ng to this day.
Hell yes! Gunner's always fun, imo for me I've always been a gunner main but between TMGs and Gunblades, I *REALLY* like gunblades sooo I'll probably be playing Gunner until the 2022 Gunblade class.
I know u said it’s not recommended to only use twin machine guns but if I were to only use twin machine guns which build should I go for for gunner.
Hi hi! I think a point was missed in the video here, but you're supposed to use TMGs on Gunner due to how Chain Trigger functions.
Subclass choice is mostly to supplement your personal playstyle (Wired Lance/TD for example can be used to reach weak points easier, while something like Ranger as a subclass opens up rifle possibilities due to only losing blight rounds).
So basically, 99% of the time you will be on TMGs, but you can use your subclass weapon to help benefit you for example to close distance so you can use more TMGs.
Hope that helps answer your question!
@@everydere yes that did thank you I think I’ll run wired lance with the tmg
@@oxlord5513 Glad I was able to help! If you have any more questions, feel free to ask!
Thanks for this video!
No problem! I hope the video was able to help!
Your previous guuner guide was really helpful. Finally understood how to do a lot more dmg. Also I took techter as subclass and its lvl 13 now. Do you think its worth to switch to fighter or hunter now? I dont really even use techter.
Thank you! Now since you're not really using techer as a subclass, I'd say you could just change it to Fighter (Twin Dagger mobility is fun), or Hunter. Going from 1-10 on a subclass is actually pretty fast when you're just running around on your main class, so it should equal your techer really fast. Hope you have a great day!
I use bullet rave to start/end chains due to okay damage with survivability, but I use aimless rain when there is a group of enemies
Same! Doing Aimeless Rain into a huge amount of mobs when you start chain + build chain is insane and can build you to 100 in like 2 PAs too if they're grouped up enough. Hope you're having fun with gunner!
@@everydere I am but I felt launcher did higher damage numbers but the gunner seems to kill just as quick if not quicker it's very weird. Then again I hit for 1108 damage today 😅
@@tickletheFATk1d Duuude I've been doing memes with Launcher to see how long can I do fear eraser + how high can I make the damage LOL it's really fun. But yeah I agree sometimes I feel like Gunner's weaker than other stuff, then I remember it hits so frequently compared to other classes, but mann those big Launcher numbers + Damage is so freaking fun!
@@everydere you make me want to go back to the launcher 😂
@@everydere if you would be willing to create a video looking to different weapons with their DPS, for example 10 seconds for each weapon against an enemy in a cocoon for solo testing. Add the total damage of the photage and divide it by 10 see what the highest is, I've not found any content like that so I hope I'll will be popular and appreciated none the less!
I have two questions actually:
#1: What are you wearing? It is rather intriguing and I would like to get it soon .w.
#2: I use Force and I have no real plans as to what I will use as my secondary weapon, I am avoiding talis cause I used it in the original but they switched it a lot on this one but I have been thinking of wired lance or twin daggers, what would be better? This is only for now as Bouncer my fav will be coming soon.
Hi I'm wearing Dual Mufflers from PSO2 OG, Maikagura Mask from PSO2 OG, Megumin Eyepatch, Turban from the Soldier Line Scratch, and the mask is the new mask they give you for free in PSO2 NGS. My inner wear + basewear are the new soldier line scratch N-Type outfits (these are like 4k-6k for males btw so pick them up if you haven't).
EDIT: Also weapon camos if you were wondering: *SH Trident for my TMGs, *Plasma Hands for my Wired Lances (this work as TMGs too).
As for force, personally after testing it, I kinda ended up just using rod a lot since it has been massively improved over CBT. But in terms of a second weapon to summarize:
Wired Lances are extremely fun and let you have insane AoE + iFrames, the best way to summarize WL is "If a problem comes along you must WHIP IT *whip noise*". Twin daggers however, have more of a single target focus BUUUT if you enjoy flying around, countering, pretending to be Attack on Titan, then Twin Daggers will fit your playstyle more. Imo combining either one with Rod will allow you to get aerial mobility+gameplay that you might be looking for. SO TL;DR I'd choose which one based on which looks cooler for you since Rod is pretty versatile as is.
Also for wired lances, you might want to look if Massive Hunter is worth it for you? That's the other bonus to Hu sub which allows you to ignore all knockbacks for 30 seconds
@@everydere Seems I may be using wired lance then as that 30 sec knockback immunitywill prove to be useful for a force like myself, and WL just have that nice feel about it XD so thank you for telling me ^w^
@@VVamp_Squid No problem! I hope you have tons of fun!
Edit: Also just realized I got the scarf name wrong sorry! It's *Dual Scarf* in JP, *Two-Tailed Mufflers* in Global!
Great video
Thank you so much!
wait, so CT can’t use other weapon’s charge PA to finish? damn here i am using gu/fo trying to finish CT with charged techniques i’m so dumb lol
Yup! In the CBT it was possible (and I assumed a complete glitch), In Full release we are unable to do ANYTHING chain trigger related unless it's with a TMG. Hopefully SEGA irons some stuff out and lets us do it cause I'd love to trigger Chain with other things besides TMG PAs.
@@everydere I mean I kinda understand the reasoning behind this, maybe SEGA doesn’t want a main class weapon to be a functionality weapon, or kinda like the supplementary for the subclass weapon to do more dmg and whatnot. But still it’s sad that finishing CT with non TMG weapon is no longer a thing 😿
Should I choose resurgis or cattleya machine gun??
Depends on what you want to play tbh. If you want to just make a weapon for Gunner and Ranger at the same time, Resurgir Rifle with Multi- TMG+Launcher would be the better choice and cheaper in the long run if you play the two classes. The reason is because Rifle classifies as a main class for both Ranger AND Gunner so you don't lose on the 10% hidden potency buff. Now if you plan on just playing solely Gunner, Cattlyea will work. Hope that answers your questions!
what multi-weapon did you make for your twin machine gunner?
I'm planning on a Resurgir Rifle with TMG+Launcher multiweapon, so I can play RaGu and GuRa!
I'm thinking of going gunner/ranger. Just wish I could bring blight rounds. Should I multi-weapon a TMG+rifle, TMG+launcher, or rifle+launcher?
So unfortunately for the 4* series the only combination that allows you to do that would be Resurgir. Now if you're like me, and you enjoy switching between Ranger and Gunner, then I would recommend to make a Resurgir Rifle and Multi-weapon Launcher+TMG ontop of this. Rifle is classified as a main class weapon for both Gunner and Ranger so you won't lose out on the 10% potency loss for having it be a "subclass" weapon when using GuRa or RaGu. The only downside is the Resurgir potential is slightly useless on Gunner, but more useful on Ranger. Alternatively, you could just make no multi-weapons and switch your weapons as needed (This may be a cheaper alternative if you find yourself maining ONLY one weapon like TMG).I hope that helps your decision making!
@@everydere I was already thinking of TMG+launcher just because I also really love the launcher and would love to splice in its multishot into TMG mayhem, but when you bring that angle into it, I think that's definitely the way I'm gonna go! Mainly for fun factor but I also figure they're bound to add in new weapons besides resurgir, maybe even fill out the other series with all the weapons. Sucks that resurgir is the only option for now (especially since I can't find any save a few on the player shop). Hopefully I can find one soon. Thanks for the quick response!
@@cosmosofinfinity No problem! Also I really hope they change how multi weapons work, cause I definitely would love to use the other potentials so we can make some real fun combos. ALSO GLAD YOU LOVE LAUNCHER WOOOOOOOOO I've been doing some hilarious things with it, and it's kinda rivaling my love for TMGS LOL
@@everydere Turns out the way to get these resurgir weapons to show up in the personal shop searches is if you examine a player who currently has one equipped
I played base pso2 when it came to gamepass with friends quite casually as a Braver (I couldnt care to get into the complicated skill tree so I basically made it automatic distrubution) Eventually we made it to level 75 and we never returned
But with NGS and its thinned skill trees I feel alot more inclined to get a tad more serious about maximizing my efficiency in the role I play, I subbed because I like your informative style and you will be a great resource for beginners and semi beginners like myself
Ohhh you're in luck! In August, we'll be getting Braver back so just a short little while until you can become the storm that is approaching! Also welcome back to PSO2! I hope you and your friends are able to enjoy NGS with it's wayy more streamlined gameplay+skill trees. And thank you so much, I try to gear my videos towards beginners/new players who haven't touched PSO2, but later on I'll start publishing my in depth minmax DPS rotations/potency calculations (I didn't include these because it may over-complicate classes and turn people away from trying them out)
Now that I think about it, if tmgs are the only thing that can trigger chain trigger, then what about multi weapon tmg? Does the abilities you add from another weapon become a possibility for chain trigger? Idk if this has been answered but multiweapons open up so much and I’m still thinking about the combinations
So i actually tested this, so let's say your multiweapon base is a Rifle, and you add a TMG on top. The TMG would still be able to trigger/start/end Chain Trigger and Chain boost only applies to the TMG itself. Now for what photon arts trigger chain, it is exclusively TMG PAs (Bullet Rave, Aimless Rain, Point Blank). I hope that was able to answer your question!
@@everydere damn. So trying to go for a multiweapon tmg would just hurt your dps rather than helping you compliment your gameplay. I'm thinking multiweapon for gunner is just me going for a force sub to just exploit weaknesses.
I haven't tested it yet but maybe after popping chain, with hu sub you can deal nice damage if you time your pop with a sword counter for big damage. But even then i think charged satellite does better. So I'm really sad about the possibilities of lack of combinations for gunner wep
@@mikewasasuke9695 I'm not sure the counter damage gets chain finisher bonus as well, SEGA kinda removed all synergy with other weapons/PAs to Chain sadly so I've just been using the charged sat aim T_T.
Overall though if you are planning a multiwep for your TMG to exploit weaknesses on GuFo, I think it will probably math out to a DPS increase assuming the weakness triggers fast enough.
@@everyderepopping chain does need a charged tmg pa but after that doesnt need to be a TMG pa since i use 2x satelite aim + deadly approach and DA benefits from the damage increase.
I haven't tried swapping to another weapon after popping chain trigger or the skill is stated that all damage done after popping chain only applies to tmg so it might be worth testing out.
@@mikewasasuke9695 Oh! Dead Approach would basically fall under TMG PA, I've tested using my TMG+Rifle MultiWep and didn't see an increase in damage after sadly (when using Rifle PAs after a chain pop)
Edit: Dead Approach is basically treated as an uncharged TMG PA in the eyes of the game, Sroll also gains a damage bonus on chain. Also it does not have to be a PA specifically to get the damage bonus, as long as it's a TMG it will work. ALTHOUGH I'm not sure if SEGA intends the damage bonus after pop to be TMG only or if it's a bug since there's some buggy stuff atm?
Edit#2: Actually lemme test something real fast! Cause it might be server lag I'll reply with my findings!
Edit#3: Okay so after testing multiple Bujin kills, the chain increase for damage only applies to TMG itself. So unfortunately it does not apply to any other weapon or other weapon PA. (I tested GuRa/GuFi/GuHu/GuTe weps)
I've been using GuRa for the same reason as you, I loveee the launcher gives a lot of dps when weak point is exposed, anyhow I'm still confused what ranger skill tree should I invest, should I invest my skill points on all ranger skills or not?
So imo, for the Ranger Skill tree I would put 1 point into everything, and rest into which bad condition benefits you more. Bad Condition in general is kinda iffy. This setup does leave you with maxed all Ranger skills except bad condition, so you won't have to worry if you decide to play some Ranger later on!
ALSO if you are running GuRa btw, You can choose to remove the 2 points in spread shot on Gunner, and allocate them to 10/10 PP Recovery, and 2/10 Overwhelm if you want! (Spread Shot is shared between Gu and Ra)
Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere but should I take spread shot tho? I never use rifles on GuRa only tmg and launcher, and it's a short range skill also with rifle grenadier and slide shot advance, can I not invest those skills and invest remaining skill points to maximize other skills?
@@viperhound3606 So on the Ranger Tree specifically, there's not much to gain for Bad Condition (this is just -Status which isn't a big deal) which leaves you with A LOT of extra points, even if you take spread shot for if you end up using rifle for AoE (homing darts can fill up the bar real quick). I think on my tree since I reset today, I had like 6 extra points after taking spread shot on the Ranger Tree.
Gunner Tree, you can 100% ignore spread shot since even for me, I just use majority TMG+Launcher so that leaves 10/10 PP Recovery + 2/10 Overwhelm
@@everydere ok, I think I understand, thanks a bunch!
@@viperhound3606 No problemo! If you have any questions feel free to ask anytime and I'll try and answer it!
(even if it's not related to Gunner/NGS!)
Hello, I would like to ask if you're going for Gunner Hunter what is your skill build for the hunter subclass? Thank you so much in advance for replying and for this guide!
Hi! For the Hunter subclass, I have 1 point in everything (for testing purposes + incase I want to use other weapons in the tree). Hunter Physique is at 1/5 because the CD doesn't reduce + the main use is the anti-KB, Flashguard is 1/10, 1 point into warcry (but you can remove this point and put it into flash guard). I have a point in warcry for testing purposes and my current results at the moment is there's not a point to putting a point in it. So i'd reccomend you to put it into flash guard! Hope that answers your question!
@@everydere Thank you very much for the answer! :D
@@Kenjirou69 No problem! Have tons of fun!
Can this be applied to the gunner class now ? Or is this considered dated
Alright, since you're answering everything, does the attack pp recovery count on weapon actions like ranger's dash or stylish roll?
Yes! It actually does, and it really helps the pp efficiency + gameplay (Gunner can easily dump all their PP from 100 to 0 real quick, then build it up as you rebuild your chain). Now here's the big issue. If you're talking about the Stylish Roll ATTACK and not the weapon action roll, Stylish Roll takes 10pp to use and gives some decent damage. So what I've been doing since spamming Stylish Roll Attack is incredibly pp inefficient, is Sroll twice, then normal attack/weapon action roll attack once or twice. This usually should be enough PP regen to keep Stylish Roll Attacking (10pp a use). I hope that answers your question and I can answer more questions you have!
Edit: Ranger's Dash (Weapon action?) regens PP on hit so using PP recovery will give you more PP every weapon action. Combining this with Launcher's Sticky Bomb (which fills your whole PP bar), and you get some really nutty stuff!
@@everydere Alright, thanks! I definitely see why gunner is a lot better as a main class but I'm running ranger/gunner right now and both the pp recovery and blight rounds+stylish onslaught are really fun to switch in between.
@@cyber2952 Same actually! I'm running RaGu to do insane memes with the rifle+Launcher along with blight rounds. ATM I'm working on making a resurgir Launcher+Rifle multi weapon so I can instant apply blight rounds and switch between them fast.
@@everydere Lmao literally the exact same. Just put together my multi weapon Rifle/Launcher, put blight rounds and fear eraser on the sub palette so I can have them on demand
I'm going for Gunner/Ranger, what TMG and Launcher I should be using?
So unfortunately if you plan on making a multi-weapon, it will always be a Resurgir (I would make a Resurgir Rifle then shove TMG+Launcher ontop of it). Otherwise, I believe Cattelya TMGs + Vialto Launcher would best fit you if you do not wish to multi-wep. I hope that answers your questions!
i am really liking launcher but i dont want to use ranger as main since the main clas ability is only on ar so im trying to figur eout what to build
You can always go Gu/Ra and never use the machineguns or rifles. On the gunner skill-line just get all the PP recov and Overwhelm.
The reasoning is that if you have no intention whatsoever to play mainclass gunner, you can ignore literally everything in Gunner's skill tree and only get the Attack PP recovery and Overwhelm, making full use of your 20 skillpoints.
Plus, as a mainclass Gunner, you get to enjoy the 130% pprecovery rate instead of the 120% as a subclass Gunner.
Now, on your Ranger skill-line, just get all the skills that correlate to launcher (slow landing attack-ranger, slow landing charge-ranger, stickybomb quickreload, launcher charge grouping). You will be left with 16points leftover, that you dont have to put into anything if you dont want to; since I havent seen bad conditions being a big deal atm.
Now this advice is only applicable if you dont mind completely cannibalizing the gunner skill-line; meaning if you 100% have no interest whatsoever in playing gunner now, and in the future.
So the only main class ability ranger has is blight rounds, and you can actually ignore it and subclass Ranger and keep playing. The reason for this is because, blight rounds will be applied by someone who has it in content that matters so you're not really losing anything at all. There's no downside to using launcher at all on Gunner especially if you're in a situation where you might want to use it. The passives on ranger are also pretty meh so my whole build is just: grab everything, last points = 1/5 Blight rounds to 5/5, then 1/10 Bad Condition Ward+Reduction.
Also as A. S said you can cannibalize your whole Gunner skill tree and just make it 10/10 PP recovery, 10/10 Overwhelm. However, you shouldn't need to do this since 9/10 PP recovery + 1/10 Overwhelm, and Launcher's Sticky Bomb weapon action will upkeep you at 100% PP. (it is possible to throw sticky bomb, start fear eraser, hold it down, hit 10pp, sticky bomb explodes and gives you back 100% PP and you keep fear erasering until 0 pp). Hope that answers your questions! Also thank you @A. S for the advice!
hey i just wondering how do i find better gun for the gunner? i only got level 2 gun,how do i get lv 4 and more,thannks
Hi hi 4* guns are random drops, but you can also buy them from the personal shop (they may be expensive though). 4* would either be Resurgir Series or Cattleya Series. I hope that helps you out!
@@everydere but if i search personal shop,and search machine gun,theres only tzufia and primm,i cant search those 2 you mention tho
@@haveltrahasdani3547 Yeah so the Personal Shop in PSO2 is kinda weird, basically you can't search the item unless you input the EXACT name or see the weapon ingame. I believe the name is Resurgir Twin Machineguns
@@everydere Hi I just got the drop for this 4star gun but I am a fighter looking to switch to gunner. will this be a good move?
@@MrEndless107 Yeah no problem doing That at all! Twin Machineguns are a pretty much efficient weapon on Gunner, and the only weapon you need as well to start playing the class. I hope you'll have a great time with it and I can answer any questions you have on it!
Can’t you multi weapon to add the whip to gunner skill?
Yup Resurgir series 4* will allow you to do it! You can slot the wired lance weapon action to gain instant access to the gap closer!
Can anyone tell me the hardest mechanical class in NGS rn?
I want a challenge if I go in :3
Honestly, probably a coin flip between Fighter and Gunner. Gunner requires you to stay completely in melee range to maximize DPS with point blanks during chain finishers, Fighter requires you to dodge or die but has high rewards with insane single target DPS.
Background: So I didn't plays pso2 but in really into ngs and I want to minmax gunner purely first
My question: so im starting to get setup for end game and have money rolling in but can't decide on my armors running 3 Tzvia +30s currently looking to switch with a +40 Cattleya tmg kinda lost on what to go to other than to switch to Resurgir guns if I decide to multi in the future but for now from what I read in a previous comment of yours my wep should be fine until then so what's best augments for wep/armors for pure gunner and preffered endgame armors currently mainly looking for best potential I guess
Thank you = )
Ps been grinding Google for hours as well as comments on vids but hard to find the info I need since most is targeted at pso2
So currently the best augments would be to stack completely all the Ranged Weapon Potency % you can, along with potency floor. Use food to supplement your extra potency+PP on Gunner as well.
And for preferred endgame armor, this one is a veeeery tricky one. Basically 4* units can get preset skills so your choice (assuming prices on Ship 2 Global are the same-ish across ships). Is to invest 200k+ in a 1% ranged DPS gain but no preset skill (Qual De Armor: units) or, invest in Cattelya/Vialto/Qual De Armors that have a preset skill for approximately 30k-50k average for good ones. Personally for me, the extra 3% damage loss for 9% more Damage Reduction/PP Recovery/PP Speed (Level 3 Preset skills) at the 30k-50k price point, outweighs the 3% DPS loss I would get.
On top of this, Gunner is really PP efficient so I could stack more defensive stats or go full PP for more point blank spamming. But in pure minmax terms, the best possible unit would be the 4*s which grant 1% damage WITH a preset on top but that would either require godly RNG or dumping your bank.
We also have to take in account Defense Quests drop in August with Braver (~ 1 month from now), which could lead to even better units/weapons that are potentially cheaper or easier to get.
So TL;DR: Stack as much Ranged wep Potency as possible, 4* units investment is finnicky so choose between 1% Damage extra for 200k-ish or more comfy QoL but a level 3 Preset Skill at 30k-50k-ish. Also take into account in ~1 month we will have Defense Quests with Braver drop so it may give us easier units or SEGA may change drop rates for Preset Skills to be better.
I hope my answer helps you out!
Thank you very much I usually don't comment at all but glad I did very helpful gonna sub to ya for sure ty again!
@@commander9531 No problem! If you ever have any questions on any of my videos, I'll be sure to try and help answer them even if it's not related to the video! Also thanks for the sub!
Can I still maximize rifle or launcher damage using ranger as my sub class?
So it's been datamined(?) that your main class will have 10% more damage with main class weapons, I can kinda sorta confirm this from playing RaGu. You can still maximize the Rifle+Launcher damage by playing GuRa it'll just be sliiightly lower than playing RaGu instead (assuming 10% is true, i gotta test it more). The only real thing you'll be missing is blight rounds but someone will apply it for you.
Cultured Tekken Tag 2 School remix 👍
Tekken Tag 2 had such good music, Bamco please make Tekken Tag 3 be even better T_T.
Techter as a subclass is actually pretty good
Yup! I love how SEGA gives us so many options!
is gunner fighter a good combo as im used to the rangers gunslash ?
Gunner Fighter is a good combo yes! Twin Daggers are ridiculously fun and can give you awesome aerial mobility + close ranged uptime, Knuckles have some satisfying counters and speed, and I haven't really dabbled much in double saber so I'm still trying to figure out that one! Also on top of this, Fighter gives you Defeat Advantage which at 1/10 is 1% more damage on downed, but 10/10 is 5% more damage on downed states for subclasses.
i have a question about fighter , is fighter worth to main or i should go techter with fighter sub? and what do you think is the highest damage class/sub in the game right now? thanks alot great video
So every class is worth to main. With Fighter your biggest gain is Defeat Enemy Advantage which pretty much allows you to DELETE anything that enters the down state nearly instantly and potentially chain down stains. If you decide on Techer Main, you'll get access to Shifta+Deband which allows you to actually tank more hits + get downs faster (but techter is very popular so you'll usually always have shifta+Deband on anyways). So it's mostly down to preference on what you like in the class itself.
Now onto the highest damaging class. Assuming no server lag I've theorycrafted it's FiHu. The reason is because FiHu allows you to get Hunter Physique 1/5 + Flashguard 2/10, and stack that with Overload. That pretty much removes the whole downside of Overload itself. Now with Defeat Enemy Advantage on top of this (Fi gets a HUGE bonus when mainclassed to this skill) On down states, you would have the highest burst possible using any of Fighter's weapons, my preference is towards Twin Daggers on Fighter. Now the weakness to Fighter's kit is actually it's AoE. But that's where the Hunter sub comes into play. When you combine Twin Daggers + Wired Lance, you have the most mobility in the game, the most amount of s, the highest burst potentially atm. But more importantly Wired Lance gives you the ability to INSTANTLY delete huge amounts of mobs due to how broken it's AoE is.
So Tl;dr: Highest Damaging class in the game (Based on my theory crafting): Pop Hunter Physique+overload at the same time, Play FiHu with TD for single target/burst, and Wired Lances for AoE.
I hope that was able to answer your question!
@@everydere well that was verryy helpfull i was useing fifo since i started the game but i think the PP is manageable without useing force if i have a good rotation .im gone try fihu now , and please upload more builds
@@mohamedsaid2227 No problem! Also if you find some crazy stuff to pull off with knuckles I'd like to know since I haven't really dabbled in them too much!
I miss our kick PAs tbh. Hope some of them make a comeback in the future.
I'm really hoping we get them back relatively soon too! Also Grim Barrage please SEGA LOL
What skill points should I allocate on my hunter subclass?
Hi hi! Full hunter guide is now out! ruclips.net/video/e92tjP-87YQ/видео.html
But Subclass wise, 1 point into all weapons you plan on using, 1/5 Hunter Physique, 0/5 Warcry (if you dont plan on using it), rest into Flash Guard. Hope that answers your question!
Hi, if i multi-tool any weapon with the TMG, am i able to benefit with the Chain? Also can you do a video on multi-tool that alone is confusing
Hi hi! As long as you have the TMG equipped when attacking, AND you are a gunner main class, you can use Chain+benefit from it on the TMG itself. So basically for example, If you had a Rifle Base with Multiwep TMG on top, When you use a TMG PA, it will begin to start chain, and you would have to normal attack *with the TMG* or bullet rave, to build it up. I hope that clears it up a little, I can go further in depth if you have more questions!
@everydere may I ask, lets say I have wired as my combined weapon, having TMG on top, does the wired PA's count with the chain, granted I am GuHu?
@@knwjb5844 So wired Lance's attacks, do NOT count for chain at all. The only things that count for Chain Trigger are specifically TMG attacks and TMG PAs. Basically, if you are not using a TMG, Chain will not increase or give you any benefits. Hope that answers your question!
Thank you for the clarity :)
Why would i or anyone get spread shot? Its for rifles not tmg.. and you have better PAs anyway.
Incase some niche use for Gunner only rifle appears honestly, IMO I had it for testing purposes but you can remove the 2 points and put it into 10/10 PP recovery + 2/10 Overwhelm for a 2%-ish more gain to pp recovery.
@@everydere Yeah I find overwhelm is no the most useful thing but its better than something that I wont use, I'm conflicted on the slow fall passives, they help you stay closer to bosses weakspots since as Gunners we have no gap-closer ability, but im thinking Gunner+Hunter (Wire) may be amazing to abuse wire weapon action to stick to the weakspot, so by that point the slowfalls are practically useless or i think so. I would love to hear your opinions about this.
Also spamming Onslaught on downed monsters could be better DPS wise than Point Blank, i need do to more testing.
So far I'm taking the best way to play gunner could be TMG+Wire Sub
using Point blank to start and end chains, Bullet Rave to up your chain and spam Onslaught on downed enemies, but testing is needed.
Seems like having fighter as a SUB gives you more PP regen but if you manage properly you wont need it anyway.
I would love to hear you talk about all this and give a more informed opinion since you are a more veteran player, sorry about the wall of text and thanks for answering!
Hunter helps with straga
Thank you for the info 😁
What scarf is that from pso2 base?
Hi hi! The scarf I'm using is called Two-Tailed Scarf, it comes from base PSO2 from the initial alliance event. I hope that answers your question!