I'm still surprised it took a manufacturer this long to figure out this formula. Everything else is either an asthmatic, mediocre, faired standard or a peaky, over powered track bike. This is what they should be making.
@@HormigaZ Bah only because the CBR650R is overpriced in the US market. The thorn in this side of the 660RS is going to be the dead reliable 130hp ZX6R you could have instead for like 1k less. But I do like the bike, also liked ncsteeltoe's comment because I DO agree that this is a formula for fun -- 65 - 100hp lightweight sport bikes with relaxed ergos and great suspensions and brakes. Don't need the rider aids tho, make it cheaper plz.
@@walkerfharris Aprilia is a premium brand. They assume, that people will pay the price anyway, which is true. There will be a lot of pre-orders for this. But yeah, making a cheaper version wouldn't hurt, maybe in the future based on how the sales will go.
@@kleinbottled79 Not in Europe, ZX-6R is almost 1k EUR more. Also, ZX-6R is a supersport. RS 660 is not, the position is more upright, it's a daily ride sporty motorcycle. It's like a little more aggressive and powerful CBR650R. Different category.
I've heard that the RS 660 feels a lot closer to a 600cc class supersport bike than it does to Ducati's new Supersport. I too would love to see a real side-by-side, back-to-back comparo between the RS 660, something like the Ducati Supersport or Honda CBR650R, and something along the lines of a YZF-R6 or a ZX-6R.
@@kasztan2008 for Ducati, maybe... but it is quite a fun bike on the road... even on the track it was ok, although there it could use a bit more horsepower
I think so too... it has quite a bit more cc but power output itself isn't much higher; that being said, the Supersport (no matter what some people here claim) is quite a good and fun road bike; my gf rode one for 3 years, also some track days... she had a blast! Of course, some riders feel like everything that has less than 220bhp is junk, because they are such good and fearless riders
This Aprilia RS660 is getting great reviews on all Motorcycle channel’s. Been a long time in the making but looks and sounds like it was worth the wait!!
The electronic package on this bike really makes this bike so much more appealing which is odd since I’ve never really been a fan of all the electronics being built into new bikes these days. Honestly the quick shift/autoblip and the cruise control on this aprilia would really make this a great daily commuter bike.
In 600cc and around there are mainly two categories of bikes. 1st category is more racing and track oriented bikes such as; Suzuki GSX-R600 Honda CBR600RR Kawasaki ZX6R Yamaha R6 2nd category consists of more road and fun oriented bikes (you can still take them to the track if you want though) such as; Honda CBR650R Kawasaki Ninja 650 Suzuki SV650 (though not looking very sporty, closer to CB650R) I think RS 660 fits in the second category and will become one of the main rivals of CBR650R. RS 660 is a beautiful machine and full of cool techs that you can only find some high end 1000cc sport bikes. But there are three huge drawbacks imo; 1. Not 4 cylinder. So you can’t hear that classic deep and dark engine sound. I hope it’ll sound better than R3. 2. Yes it’s gonna be expensive. 3. Lacks world wide service and maintenance issues relative to huge brands like Honda, Suzuki etc.
Late reply but no, it's a track bike. This is not a 4cyl 600 bike, it's a supertwin bike. That category is 659cc maximum, twin cylinder. Its main competitors are the Paton S1-R and the Kawasaki Z650. A twin cyl track bike in the same race tier as a ZX6R would be the Ducati Panigale 899 as you are allowed to ride a twin cyl sub-900cc bike in the same race as a sub-600cc 4 cyl.
@@Yorcen Ok, so why was half of the top 10 in this year's Supertwin category at the TT taken by the Aprilia RS660? It's literally the exact minimum weight and maximum cc of standard supertwin class rules.
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Stupid question: does anyone feel like we’re getting back to the days of the old Ducati SS? You know, street power, great looks, no sport touring pretense (e.g., Honda 800 Interceptor and current Ducati “Supersport”) ...
Yep indeed. The key ingredients: 100 hp tuned for street use, and a superlight wet weight. Two figures we haven't seen since the old SS glory days. This is gonna shift markets in the industry for sure.
@@snowman4497 It sits quite a bit above the cbr650r tho, it has higher peak power, but more importantly waaay more low/ midrange power, and muuuch lighter wet weight around 25kg difference. Then add all the electronics on top, as well as the premium materials used. This is even more above the CBR, than the CBR is above the Ninja 650.
I get the feeling this video will be addressing the difference between the way the manufacturers are approaching the Middle Weight sector. Faired Nakeds/sport touring might look like a supersports but they aren't and in some ways that's a good thing others, it kinda leaves you wanting just a bit more. Then there's the supersports, fantastic fun when you get your head down but every day riding can be a bit of a pain in the proverbial. Aprilia have put another spanner in the works have found a balance that might suit more people who want more of the best of both worlds. I mean there is the price of the price but it's a European bike, that's to be expected I suppose. This might just be a game changer in that aspect.
The old Triumph Street Triple 675 and Daytona 675 I think, even being 7 years older are rivals and you can pick one up cheap now making them great value for money.
@@jpross68 It appears both bikes will be great choices for those wanting a sport bike look, but without the inane riding position of typical supersports bikes.
It might even covert some Street Triple riders who would like a slightly more sporty ride but not one that brakes the back and only operates in the high rev range. The soon to be Tuono will lap up the rest of them 🤣
Personally, I wasn’t all that confused with where the RS stood once it was announced. To me, it’s hard to find competitors because there aren’t any really, not yet at least. It’s sort of a new class of bike IMO, well, fills a particular niche. I lump BMW’s F900r in here as well, which I have. This sort of bike is down on power compared to supersports but when compared to middleweight bikes people would actually enjoy around town and in the twisties, it’s a huge step up from those as far as tech and components included. I came from a Ninja650 as my first bike and thoroughly enjoyed it as an all around, good enough for most sort of bike. Looked sporty but comfortable to commute on and fun enough for the weekend. The BMW however was a nice upgrade for me because it still served that use but provided Brembo brakes, more fine tuned suspension, and tech aids only matched by top end bikes. I don’t need top bike power, but I wanted top end tech and convenience. That’s how I see these latest crop of Aprilias. I’m hoping this spurs new bikes in a similar ilk from other manufacturers now 😁
I'm one year into my A2. This beautiful machine has been top of my list since I first saw it. Loved the looks. Love Aprilia. Love the fact the hype lives up to the reality. Roll on 2022. In Acid Yellow!!
I’m so happy I just watched this video . Got my license 2 years ago at 53 and knew I wanted a sport bike for the mountains in Tennessee and North Carolina and the curvy roads. With only 22 street miles on a classic I signed up for a racing track day in palm beach , Florida. Little did I know what I had registered for. They threw me on track legal 1000 Kawasaki and surprisingly I did great . So I bought a sport ninja 400. I have ridden the famous people tail of dragon and need or want to be able to carve and lean more so I want a super sport. Since I liked the ninja I thought I’ll just get the next size up in a super sport . But after all my research I found the Aprilio RS 660. I was heading to Miami to try her on and thought I would buy her due to the low weight and high horse power. But then I read all about their upgraded electronics . And after seeing your video I think I’ll be driving a brand new one home tomorrow. Thank you for sharing your in depth review . It has sealed my decision
Basically, it can’t be compared to the ZX6R and the R6 if all that can be said about it over the other two are it’s rider modes (that we don’t use anyway). It’s basically another new rider friendly underpowered motorcycle that most will want to upgrade from after 6 months of owning it. Just for the record, I have a 2020 zx6r and other than the slightly firm seat, it’s easy to ride for hours. Great on the backroads and easy to ride in town. Sorry guys but this smells like a sponsored advert to me 👃
I think ALL the main review websites and channels are sponsored adverts then ;) ; I think you're maybe the exception to the rule here, people enjoying 600cc racers on the road... ; of course, people (luckily) are all different and have different needs/desires... it's absolutely fantastic that you find your Kawa comfortable and easy to ride in town though! My personal experience is different: rode a Pani 959 on the road and hated every second of it... fun at the track, a nightmare on the road ;)
@@joeridestrijcker445 huge differences between a zx6r and a Panigale 959 mate that’s a silly comparison to make. In fact, Panigale’s are well known for being awful road bikes so I’m not surprised at that anyway. May aswell just ride a wild lion through a field. 600 sports bikes are also widely different to 1000cc sports bikes, it’s not a case of just being a smaller engine, everything is different from the comfort to the clutch.
@@Boy.of.wonder the 959 was, if I interpreted correctly, aimed primarily at customers who like the Pani look but wanted something road-oriented... and I was just using it as example because it has clipons and seat/peg ergonomics that feel like a racing bike; you're right though, I haven't tried a 600cc Japanese bike on the street yet
It already comes with good Brembo brakes that work well for its weight, perhaps an upgrade to the master cylinder, and yea likely öhlins all around. That bike will be a true weapon on the track.
@@mr1982davies I don't see why that wouldn't become an option down the line - probably after the Tuono has been in the market for a while and they need to generate some new hype. Probably a year later or so. KTM is doing the whole 890 r thing, I'm sure Aprilia will follow suit with a Factory Tuono 660.
@@Real_MisterSir I can see a doc placement increase later on it’s got potential this model for sure people will buy even if the price is what it is I’d defiantly look into buying a tuono version
I'm still out here with my 1999 Yamaha TRX850.. Parallel twin, 270 degree crank, trellis frame, perfect power and torque to have fun every day, and the soft suspension makes it.. interesting
Matt Read. EXACTLY! And if you have tech problems with the bike, will the dealer be able to fix it? Owned a 750 Shiver for 3years and loved it. Got cold weather starting problems after the 10k service. Dealer couldn't fix it. Poor service by dealer network saw me deciding not to upgrade to a new Tuono. Ended up with a New MT10 instead and love it. Out of all features it has, I just like the Yamaha reliability.
Nice vid. I'm not sure the RS660's real rivals have even been made yet.....but they will. I've no doubt other manufacturers are looking at this & thinking how can they emulate it. Honda could sharpen the CBR650 up a bit & Yamaha & Kwack can use the R6 & ZX platforms to come up with softer siblings & Suzuki could soften their GSXR600 & reintroduce it to Europe & call it a GSXS600. Triumph's new Trident engine could also come to the party in a different guise down the line too. Voila, middleweight class reborn.....in theory lol.
Yep! Either weaken the ZX6R, R6, or CBR600RR. Or strengthen the CBR500R, Ninja 650, or Yamaha create a whole new bike (maybe a full faired MT-07 but weaker?)
@@sambeezy007 I think a faired as is or even sharpened MT-07 would be a great competitor to the RS660 if Yamaha spent a bit of money on brakes & suspension if they really wanted to compete. Also don't really feel cutting edge electronics is the way to go in this class despite Aprilia deserving credit for trying it.
@@sambeezy007 And just not necessary or worth the extra expense or complexity with bikes of this type & power imo, other than ABS from a safety & legal perspective in Europe.
@@ragerider6283 that's what pushes me away from it. I believe you don't need ride modes etc. These higher cc bikes are high powered for a reason I think. Technology in bikes and cars will/are becoming more not worthy of buying because of cost. Electric rides are even more expensive if I'm correct
Simple explanation: Minimal requirements for a sportbike but also a bunch of user friendly assistance. It's a hand hold into the scary world of sportbikes and I respect that!
I would like to see them compared on the track and road. I hope the big 4 wakes up, because this bike is truly gonna change the game. Proving you don't have to get a litre bike to get all those electronic goodies with a proper display, and at the same time not breaking the bank. Well done
This comment shows you have no Idea what you are talking about. First of you don't need half the electronics packed on this bike especially with 100hp. The big 4 bikes will stay ahead of this on the track without all the wizardry. There is also the layer of reliability that Aprilia doesn't have and even with a cheaper to produce parallel compared to Inline 4s the price is still as close as the 600s.
@@diamondheat9 wow, I don't know what I'm talking by giving an opinion. Never claimed to be an expert, as matter of fact im just trying to learn as much as I can, didn't mean to offend anyone with my opinion.
@@diamondheat9 sir, I own a kawasaki zx6r, and wish my bike had a tft display. I don't need all the other assists just the display. From what I've seen and read even the new zx10r still has that old school gauge cluster. A shop down south installs AIM displays on customers ZX10r's so im sure im not alone in wanting that display. Thats why I said what I said. If im going to go purchase a bike these things are going to be a factor. I see Honda must of gotten the memo because the 2021 or 2022 honda CBR 600r has a color tft display like the 1000, although its rumored the US isn't getting it. My apologies if you took offense to my statement. Have a peaceful day
@@tokyorick79 sit I own a zx6r as well and yes a tft display is nice but hardly a necessity when analog are proven and tft displays are still super new so no one knows how long they will last before they burn out. Also, analog are more responsive and precise than tft displays.
Great comparison! While I welcome all the rider aids, I wonder if they’re really necessary on a 660/100 horsepower bike? Also, how is the handling? Is it more toward the Ninja 650 or the ZX-6R end of the spectrum?
@@sambeezy007 gsxr 600 k6 had better dry weight/power ratio (354/125) than aprilia (372/100). It hadnt any electronics, because on that power you really dont need any, maybe except abs. And it was 14 years ago. So i think today 650cc class is step down comparing to older 600cc.
Curious to see how this bike compares to other roadsters like the Duke 890, Street Triple RS, & F900r. If I was considering this bike, I'd probably be looking at those bikes rather than SuperSport bikes or bikes like the Ninja 650. Great video, look forward to more content on this bike!
It needs to be bulletproof and have parts to last til eternity to put it back together to be an sv650. I knew a guy who wrecked his twice in a day, one time with it literally flipping 4 or 5 times, and it rode home from the track no problem. Well no problem besides the fact the clutch lever broke and I needed to push him at lights. Meanwhile, my last trip to a specialized dealer (you can't even go to an aprillia dealer in america) i slipped on a puddle of coolant, leaking out of a 0 miles rsv41100s water pump. Still have the pics too. And thats when its new, can't wait to see what happens when the highly questionable aprillia warranty runs out. You'll be stuck with a 12,000 dollar slow 600 that needs 2500 dollars in work when any Japanese manufacturer would probably charge half of that for a whole new engine, and probably work with you if you're the original buyer of the bike even if its off warranty, aprillia meanwhile will try and screw you out of your entitlement in the warranty
im riding a 2001 yzf600r , i had to learn how to handle the power without the help of all the computers, it makes you a better rider, and you respect the power and the bike allot more.
It's closer to a Ninja 650 than a ZX6R. A good first sporty bike, or perhaps for the older gent looking for something more comfortable. No way I'd swap my ZX6R for one.
A more rounded road orientated sports bike than all of the rest. April has knocked it out of he park with this one. I hope they get the sales to match their sterling effort to bring something like this to the market.
I think the best seller will be the touareg 660 , if it has the same tech with the rs and for about the same price, then it will have no competition in a very popular category since the rest of the middle cc adventure bikes don't even come close to this tech and features or come as optional with a big price hike.
I'm still attempting to understand the need for a Tuono model when the RS660 is already comfortable to ride, unlike most sport bikes. There isn't even that much less bodywork than the RS on the upcoming Tuono. What's the point of the Tuono?
Could it be just the Italian spirit of "Because we can"? 😄 Or, they just thought they wanted to make a middleweight bike, and because they are a brand who is proud of putting the most tech and the highest quality handling gear on their bikes, it was a natural road for them to take. Perhaps they didn't even consider whether they should make it "equal to" a Ninja 650 or CBR650R. And they already have a high powered alternative in the RSV4.
Seems that Aprilia never gave a flying f00k about making something equal to competition. Just look at RS125 two strokes, chassis alone was much more refined than some japanese big bikes
It is an intriguing design package. And it's pretty safe to assume it will be an absolute blast to ride in the twisties! I reckon Aprilia's range of RSV4-powered bikes could use a third model, similar in design concept to the RS660, with a more street-focused aim.
The bike looks and sounds amazing, but i much prefer to see that engine on a Tuono 660. About the rivals, this is aimed at Honda and Ducati. I don't think its competing against R6 and ZX-6R. I wouldn't trade my ZX-6R for that bike.
@@LuckyPause3d the question is: do you really need all this sophisticated electronics in bike with only 100bhp. 8 step traction control? Overkill. Wheelie control? Overkill. IMU? Overkill. Cruise control on bike which is not highway cruiser? Maybe in US, in Europe definitely overkill. Engine braking power setup? Total overkill. And so on and on. It is just 100hp, 600cc made that power 20+ years ago, my first bike, honda hornet from year 2000 had 97,5 hp and only thing i wanted to have was abs and quckshifter. But abs is now standard in bikes and quickshifter is something you can buy with bike or same aftermarket kit.
@@LuckyPause3d 2stroke bike have different power curve than any of 4 stroke bikes and 125cc 2 strokehave around 50hp with less then 100kg. You wont wheelie 170kg/100hp 4stroke bike by mistake or just by opening full throttle. You just cant. I rode 100hp/172kg inline 4, 4 stroke, 600cc for almost 5 years. And all of those electronics is just overkill. Period. Except abs.
@@Porkycheun I I only drive the exact posted speed limit of exactly 35mph everywhere I go. I've never been faster than 65mph, I have seen the light. Time to buy a vespa.
Frank Eichhorn wow that’s a big call. I rode a Tuono 1100 RR for the first time last weekend and have to say that it was one of the best bikes I’ve ever ridden. Just phenomenal! But way over powered for an everyday road bike. Hopefully the 660 Tuono has more torque than the RS 660! That would make it interesting, but not sure if you’d be disappointed after the 121 Nm your bike has.
@@samiam5326 Although i love my tuono 1100 and it is very rewarding on track, 175hp is just too much for the road and it can get you into big trouble. I think the tuono 660 factory will be perfect for the road!
Frank Eichhorn I hear you. It definitely was a weapon. I could see how you could easily get into trouble if you weren’t careful. Thanks for the replies.
Hmm so this is exactly like a 600 in terms of features(from brakes, suspension up to electronics) but with 25ish less horsepower then the rest and a sitting position that looks a bit more comfortable? If I had the money I would get one ngl, it looks awesome
Great overview, though it does beg the question... Does a 100 BHP sporty bike NEED all that expensive tech? I'm inclined to still go with the CBR650R because of it's proven reliability and lower cost per BHP. It also helps that I love the look of the CBR, though the Aprilia is now my second favorite looker. Hopefully Aprilia will have incentives that bring the price closer to the CBR650R or they offer a lower cost stripped down version without all the tech for those of us that prefer ABS and little else.
Honda is way too expensive for what it offers. Made in Thailand and has absolutely nothing to offer. You have to rev it so high to get any power and is heavy as an elephant. Wakeup from this Japanese dream, they no longer make good bikes. These bikes put together are not half as good as the rs660.
@@aprilthetortiecat807 I won't disagree that the CBR650R is overpriced, it should probably cost around $7,500. The same can be said for the CBR500R, which retails for $6,800 and should cost at least a grand less. Cost issues aside, I personally like that the CBR650R can rev higher and I prefer the inline 4 sound over parallel twins. The 650R has sufficient power down low for city and canyon riding but is also satisfying as engine speed builds. Most twins hit a fall off point around 8 to 9k where spinning any faster is a waste of time and stops being fun around 8k RPM. It seems like Aprilia have remedied some of the issues I have with parallel twins but I still think an I4 would be more my style. YMMV of course. Also, if I'm spending $11,300, I'm going get a Ninja 1000 SX. The Aprilia NEEDs to be less than $10k or I just don't see that many people buying it.
@@glsracer The problem is that the Japanese bikes have nothing new to offer anymore. Covered with lots of nasty plastic, no longer made in Japan and left behind in electronics and safety features. CBR's brakes are just unacceptably soft. Its steel chassis is moo stiff and has no safety features. It has a very jerky torqie control. Most people think that it's still 1970 and Japanese bikes are the best. Japanese bikes sell only because of the past glories. CBR which is the best of Japanese bikes has no excitement and is too bland. You change the gear, to 2md 3rd 4th and you feel absolutely nothing. Throttle is on and off and you have to find an infinity long straight to get it go fast. RS660 on the other hand weighs less, has more power at lower rpm, more torque at lower rpm and is a high quality bike(RSV4 s measuring stick) Those Brembo 4.3 brakes makes a world of difference when it comes to stopping and you actually ride the bike with comfort. You know, if I wanted to buy a similar bike, it'd be the rs660. Lots of bike for the money. What engine configuration it has is totally irrelevant, how it makes you feed matters the most. I personally love the L-twin of Ducati, not the V4. I can't wait to see the 660.
@@aprilthetortiecat807 I dunno my CBR500R is built really well and I've had no issues with it despite installing a full system, modified airbox and filter, and a custom ECU flash with unlocked rev limit. It still needs cams but is a great bike. I just had to do all the work in unlocking all the stupid European A2 bullshit. New riders can handle 75 or 100 BHP, the EU and Australia need to STFU. I feel so bad for new riders overseas. Rant ended... I don't really have a problem with it being made outside Japan, though I do think it's greedy to charge Japanese production prices for bikes built in third world countries. Saving cost on labor should lower the MSRP significantly. I also don't disagree that the Aprilia RS660 is a great bike, I just think there needs to be a stripped version for around $9k without all the electronic nannies. 85 to 90 WHP can be managed by hand IMO, though rider assists might be nice for new riders who want to start with a bike they won't grow out of and live in a reasonable country without engine size limitations.
@@glsracer I see... You know, where I live, a motorcycle with more electronics/safety features is much much cheaper to insure. I must tell you that here is not a question of whether you can afford a bike, it's more question of can you afford the insane insurance and road tax? I know some people don't like electronics, but this extra electronics once will be the distance between death and life. Better to have them than not.
Read my mind. The ZX6R and R6 are in a different class than this. R7 and Ninja650 are the right bikes to compare. Idk how you put a ZX6R and R6 in the comparison, but then use a CBR650R instead of a CBR600RR... Im cnfused by what class people think certain bikes are in...
A faired Triumph Trident or Speed Triple S variant with less electronics and a lower price tag please Triumph. I was never fussed by the styling of the slightly ungainly Daytona
Aprilia is aiming for white space between the entry level and the super sport middle-weights mentioned in the video, but also trying to hit white space around some more expensive bikes that were also aiming at customers who wanted a little more comfort with their sport bike (Ducati Supersport and Kawasaki Ninja 1000). Those bikes push somewhat into the sport-touring category, but many people won't use them that way, but as a sporty bike that doesn't kill your joints. Aprilia seems to be aiming between the CBR650R (close-ish power but much less sophisticated suspension and electronics) and the Ducati Supersport (more powerful, but similar levels of electronic goodies and chassis componentry). Here is the US, the RS660 also splits right down the middle in price. It is nice to see manufacturers coloring outside the lines. I haven't seen them coloring into territory that will get my butt on the seat of something, but that's a whole other discussion in a completely different category of motorcycle. Perhaps the upcoming Toureg will oblige, but I think it will be a nicer, Italian Tenere...which isn't bad, just not exactly what I am looking for.
@@joeridestrijcker445 The high quality version is available, we speak about "RS660 Trofeo", i don't know when will go out but it's very intresting bike
I do not understand the power worries on the street? Have ridden an MT-07 around The Big Island for a couple of years at about 75/hp and 50/ft/lbs. Plenty of power. Close in weight. 100hp? That thing will fly. Just saw USA Pricing and it's about the same as a Desert Sled aka a couple grand less than expected. I'll wait for The Tuono but if The RS-660 is as comfy as stated might be time for sports bike.
I own an MT07 and would instantly swap it for a comfy faired version. Rode the R6 and it broke my back on the street. So I need to swap brands to get what I’m looking for.
@@xorbe2 Puig Touring windscreen can do ok job if you are 5' 8" and under. about $100 on amazon I got mine from ebay for 23 bucks. For seat options you have yamaha comfort seat and astech seat can do the job for around 250 and 180 odd respectively.
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They speak about zx6r 636 like it is somehow bad for longer trips. I understand this is an Aprilia vid, but my experience that the 636 is much better than Ninja 650 since its Showa USD front thats much more stable on windy highways. Id like to hear how the Aprilia stands out in this respect, I feel much safer with the 636 than 650 on the road, and if the Aprilia is closer to the 650 I wouldnt propably buy it - maybe I just need to try it out myself.
the F3 bikes are quite race-oriented, more like the R6 and CBR600RR: relatively uncomfortable on the street, making power quite high in the rev range etc
the only problem with Aprilia is the service. They dont respect warranty and you have to wait weeks and weeks for your bike to get fixed. Buyer beware. I had to sell mine out of desperation.
So I really feel there are blurred lines for what people actually want. So I think the most direct competitor is the ktm 790, yamaha mt09. Yeah they lack the fairing but both more comfortable position, ktm has a lot of electronics. And both those can be fitted with more wind protection. I think people are going to find it under powered compared to other options. I ride and love my aprilia just feel this bike might have mist the mark a little.
Honestly, this was maybe the best motorbike comparison video I've seen. Excellent, excellent commentary, wonderful visuals, it was so professional compared to many others. Thank you for this, highly enjoyable and informative
A comparison that doesn’t make any sense!Different typology of bikes ad the same Aprilia explained and also even ad a “ blind “ can see just looking at the bike... Maybe and if ... Aprilia launches another version , track oriented, then we can talk
Probably similar to the CBR600RR. If you sit as far forward as the seat will let you it's very comfortable, like riding a little R3. If you sit all the way back you are put into a race position.
I just bought a Ducati V4S 2020 and i want this bike! I used to own an 18 RSV4 RF so i absolutely love the brand and the bikes, this excites me and given my Ducati is a fraking super dragon burning me with its fire breath every chance it gets. This would be a nice option for a harmless ride. LOL Dont get me wrong i love the V4, i wanted the new RSV4 Factory but they didnt upgrade the front end, the lights...i wanted all that. But id buy this and be a happy two owner rider.
Aprilia may not have been too well known before but, give it a couple years with the RS being out and the Tuono 660 and Touareg 660 and I think they could find themselves being the most desirable brand on earth! Lol, they already are for me as I have an '08 Shiver 750, '09 Mana 850, '07 SR50R Factory and '14 SR50R Factory (both scooters fully upgraded)!!
I'm sure of one not very obvious rival, Triumph Street Tripple ! Maybe more of a rival for the upcoming 660 Tuono but I'm sure few would be split between these 2. Similar price range, non Japanese, loaded with technology...
Simone Di Giuseppe - Its a European bike. It will perform well but it WILL give you problems. Same as European cars. If you want reliability AND performance, buy Japanese.
Kawasaki will be cheaper to maintain and replace parts. I track my rsv4 rf for a whole year with zero issues so i dont know where the reliability issue comes from? i also track my 899 for a whole year and the only issues were recalls paid for by ducati. I also had to deal with recalls with my ninja 300 and grom. For some reason, i dont have much issues with any of my bikes, I track and weekend ride them all year round.
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I was waiting to see how the new 660 would compare! Great stuff!
More to come! Thank you!
@@visordown Looking forward to it! 😁👍🏽
I'm still surprised it took a manufacturer this long to figure out this formula. Everything else is either an asthmatic, mediocre, faired standard or a peaky, over powered track bike.
This is what they should be making.
Yet so many fail to see the point absolutely and pretend this should be cheaper than a CBR650R ...
@@HormigaZ Bah only because the CBR650R is overpriced in the US market. The thorn in this side of the 660RS is going to be the dead reliable 130hp ZX6R you could have instead for like 1k less. But I do like the bike, also liked ncsteeltoe's comment because I DO agree that this is a formula for fun -- 65 - 100hp lightweight sport bikes with relaxed ergos and great suspensions and brakes. Don't need the rider aids tho, make it cheaper plz.
@@kleinbottled79 they should make a cheap version and have the tech heavy one be a second option
@@walkerfharris Aprilia is a premium brand. They assume, that people will pay the price anyway, which is true. There will be a lot of pre-orders for this. But yeah, making a cheaper version wouldn't hurt, maybe in the future based on how the sales will go.
@@kleinbottled79 Not in Europe, ZX-6R is almost 1k EUR more. Also, ZX-6R is a supersport. RS 660 is not, the position is more upright, it's a daily ride sporty motorcycle. It's like a little more aggressive and powerful CBR650R. Different category.
I feel that the Ducati Supersport is a more direct competitor to the Aprilia RS 660. How about a comparison video between the two?
You mean "the most boring Ducati ever made" ?
I've heard that the RS 660 feels a lot closer to a 600cc class supersport bike than it does to Ducati's new Supersport. I too would love to see a real side-by-side, back-to-back comparo between the RS 660, something like the Ducati Supersport or Honda CBR650R, and something along the lines of a YZF-R6 or a ZX-6R.
Was looking for that comment ✌🏻
The CBR and the Ducati are just naked bikes with fairings and clip on’s.
@@kasztan2008 for Ducati, maybe... but it is quite a fun bike on the road... even on the track it was ok, although there it could use a bit more horsepower
I think the ducati supersport is the closest competitor
Hows that? 😳
The V2? But isnt that rated at 155hp? That would bitch slap this bike twice from Sunday.
@@aurorajones8481 110HP. 69FTLBS of Torque.
@@aurorajones8481 Ducati supersport is not the v2. Different. And very comparable to the new RS660
I think so too... it has quite a bit more cc but power output itself isn't much higher; that being said, the Supersport (no matter what some people here claim) is quite a good and fun road bike; my gf rode one for 3 years, also some track days... she had a blast! Of course, some riders feel like everything that has less than 220bhp is junk, because they are such good and fearless riders
This Aprilia RS660 is getting great reviews on all Motorcycle channel’s. Been a long time in the making but looks and sounds like it was worth the wait!!
The electronic package on this bike really makes this bike so much more appealing which is odd since I’ve never really been a fan of all the electronics being built into new bikes these days. Honestly the quick shift/autoblip and the cruise control on this aprilia would really make this a great daily commuter bike.
Excellent, Italians always know how to hit the market and yet deliver an outstanding engineering..
I'm pretty excited for the Tuono 660...
Me too, it looks so good, the extra upright is more my style too. My previous bike was a Dorsoduro 750.
In 600cc and around there are mainly two categories of bikes.
1st category is more racing and track oriented bikes such as;
Suzuki GSX-R600
Honda CBR600RR
Kawasaki ZX6R
Yamaha R6
2nd category consists of more road and fun oriented bikes (you can still take them to the track if you want though) such as;
Honda CBR650R
Kawasaki Ninja 650
Suzuki SV650 (though not looking very sporty, closer to CB650R)
I think RS 660 fits in the second category and will become one of the main rivals of CBR650R.
RS 660 is a beautiful machine and full of cool techs that you can only find some high end 1000cc sport bikes. But there are three huge drawbacks imo;
1. Not 4 cylinder. So you can’t hear that classic deep and dark engine sound. I hope it’ll sound better than R3.
2. Yes it’s gonna be expensive.
3. Lacks world wide service and maintenance issues relative to huge brands like Honda, Suzuki etc.
Late reply but no, it's a track bike. This is not a 4cyl 600 bike, it's a supertwin bike. That category is 659cc maximum, twin cylinder. Its main competitors are the Paton S1-R and the Kawasaki Z650.
A twin cyl track bike in the same race tier as a ZX6R would be the Ducati Panigale 899 as you are allowed to ride a twin cyl sub-900cc bike in the same race as a sub-600cc 4 cyl.
@@Julietmateus No, you’re wrong as always.
@@Yorcen Ok, so why was half of the top 10 in this year's Supertwin category at the TT taken by the Aprilia RS660? It's literally the exact minimum weight and maximum cc of standard supertwin class rules.
@@Julietmateus No, you’re wrong.
@@Julietmateus RS660 is a sports tourer and not a supersports bike i.e, the second category as mentioned.
I would say they should launch a base model with ABS , which does not have all these electronics wizardry with a lesser price
Sorry I just added the same point before scrolling down
@@captainaverage721 hey captain , two individuals can have same thoughts and maybe if we sing in same voice maybe Aprilia launch that base model with price of 8,399 , and last 100 bhp does need traction control 😓 if it's a mechanical engineering goodness
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Stupid question: does anyone feel like we’re getting back to the days of the old Ducati SS? You know, street power, great looks, no sport touring pretense (e.g., Honda 800 Interceptor and current Ducati “Supersport”) ...
Yeah really. I really hope that this aprilia can really compete with other 600. But in reality it sit among the cbr650r and ninja 650
I hope so best class of bike
Yep indeed. The key ingredients: 100 hp tuned for street use, and a superlight wet weight. Two figures we haven't seen since the old SS glory days. This is gonna shift markets in the industry for sure.
@@snowman4497 It sits quite a bit above the cbr650r tho, it has higher peak power, but more importantly waaay more low/ midrange power, and muuuch lighter wet weight around 25kg difference. Then add all the electronics on top, as well as the premium materials used. This is even more above the CBR, than the CBR is above the Ninja 650.
@@Real_MisterSir But what i meant it cannot right with the 600 supersports, R6, CBR600RR,GSXR600
I get the feeling this video will be addressing the difference between the way the manufacturers are approaching the Middle Weight sector.
Faired Nakeds/sport touring might look like a supersports but they aren't and in some ways that's a good thing others, it kinda leaves you wanting just a bit more.
Then there's the supersports, fantastic fun when you get your head down but every day riding can be a bit of a pain in the proverbial.
Aprilia have put another spanner in the works have found a balance that might suit more people who want more of the best of both worlds. I mean there is the price of the price but it's a European bike, that's to be expected I suppose. This might just be a game changer in that aspect.
The old Triumph Street Triple 675 and Daytona 675 I think, even being 7 years older are rivals and you can pick one up cheap now making them great value for money.
Thanks for letting us hear that magnificent exhaust note again
I think Ducati Supersport is the closest rival even if it’s considerably more expensive and somewhat up in power.
@@jpross68 It appears both bikes will be great choices for those wanting a sport bike look, but without the inane riding position of typical supersports bikes.
It might even covert some Street Triple riders who would like a slightly more sporty ride but not one that brakes the back and only operates in the high rev range. The soon to be Tuono will lap up the rest of them 🤣
Street Triple owner here with a deposit already down on an RS :)
I'm waiting for the Tuono 660! I don't think Aprilia will be able to keep up with demand!
Sold my 765RS two months ago in preparation for this bike.
Is this bike really sportier or faster then the STR?
That's what I was thinking too. I think he rs660 compares more to the 765R (not rs) and the Duke 790 than any of the fully faired sportsbikes
Personally, I wasn’t all that confused with where the RS stood once it was announced. To me, it’s hard to find competitors because there aren’t any really, not yet at least. It’s sort of a new class of bike IMO, well, fills a particular niche. I lump BMW’s F900r in here as well, which I have. This sort of bike is down on power compared to supersports but when compared to middleweight bikes people would actually enjoy around town and in the twisties, it’s a huge step up from those as far as tech and components included. I came from a Ninja650 as my first bike and thoroughly enjoyed it as an all around, good enough for most sort of bike. Looked sporty but comfortable to commute on and fun enough for the weekend. The BMW however was a nice upgrade for me because it still served that use but provided Brembo brakes, more fine tuned suspension, and tech aids only matched by top end bikes. I don’t need top bike power, but I wanted top end tech and convenience. That’s how I see these latest crop of Aprilias. I’m hoping this spurs new bikes in a similar ilk from other manufacturers now 😁
I'm one year into my A2. This beautiful machine has been top of my list since I first saw it. Loved the looks. Love Aprilia. Love the fact the hype lives up to the reality. Roll on 2022. In Acid Yellow!!
Did you end up buying it? I'm also 1 year into my A2 license and considering this bike as my next one
I’m so happy I just watched this video . Got my license 2 years ago at 53 and knew I wanted a sport bike for the mountains in Tennessee and North Carolina and the curvy roads. With only 22 street miles on a classic I signed up for a racing track day in palm beach , Florida. Little did I know what I had registered for. They threw me on track legal 1000 Kawasaki and surprisingly I did great . So I bought a sport ninja 400. I have ridden the famous people tail of dragon and need or want to be able to carve and lean more so I want a super sport. Since I liked the ninja I thought I’ll just get the next size up in a super sport . But after all my research I found the Aprilio RS 660. I was heading to Miami to try her on and thought I would buy her due to the low weight and high horse power. But then I read all about their upgraded electronics . And after seeing your video I think I’ll be driving a brand new one home tomorrow. Thank you for sharing your in depth review . It has sealed my decision
Ok, but do u really need a "Superbike" to carve and lean more? Go faster, yes, but carve and lean?
Basically, it can’t be compared to the ZX6R and the R6 if all that can be said about it over the other two are it’s rider modes (that we don’t use anyway). It’s basically another new rider friendly underpowered motorcycle that most will want to upgrade from after 6 months of owning it. Just for the record, I have a 2020 zx6r and other than the slightly firm seat, it’s easy to ride for hours. Great on the backroads and easy to ride in town. Sorry guys but this smells like a sponsored advert to me 👃
I think ALL the main review websites and channels are sponsored adverts then ;) ; I think you're maybe the exception to the rule here, people enjoying 600cc racers on the road... ; of course, people (luckily) are all different and have different needs/desires... it's absolutely fantastic that you find your Kawa comfortable and easy to ride in town though! My personal experience is different: rode a Pani 959 on the road and hated every second of it... fun at the track, a nightmare on the road ;)
@@joeridestrijcker445 huge differences between a zx6r and a Panigale 959 mate that’s a silly comparison to make. In fact, Panigale’s are well known for being awful road bikes so I’m not surprised at that anyway. May aswell just ride a wild lion through a field. 600 sports bikes are also widely different to 1000cc sports bikes, it’s not a case of just being a smaller engine, everything is different from the comfort to the clutch.
@@Boy.of.wonder the 959 was, if I interpreted correctly, aimed primarily at customers who like the Pani look but wanted something road-oriented... and I was just using it as example because it has clipons and seat/peg ergonomics that feel like a racing bike; you're right though, I haven't tried a 600cc Japanese bike on the street yet
I think I read or heard elsewhere that it has cruise control? Can you confirm this?
It does.
it's an option
Yes it have cruise control and it isn't an option.
i can see a factory version coming with more power and all the bling suspension brakes
It already comes with good Brembo brakes that work well for its weight, perhaps an upgrade to the master cylinder, and yea likely öhlins all around. That bike will be a true weapon on the track.
@@Real_MisterSir I’m intrigued to see if a tuono factory will appear as well that will be my pick
@@mr1982davies I don't see why that wouldn't become an option down the line - probably after the Tuono has been in the market for a while and they need to generate some new hype. Probably a year later or so. KTM is doing the whole 890 r thing, I'm sure Aprilia will follow suit with a Factory Tuono 660.
@@Real_MisterSir I can see a doc placement increase later on it’s got potential this model for sure people will buy even if the price is what it is I’d defiantly look into buying a tuono version
I'm still out here with my 1999 Yamaha TRX850..
Parallel twin, 270 degree crank, trellis frame, perfect power and torque to have fun every day, and the soft suspension makes it.. interesting
The only problem I have with this bike is the fact that the closest dealership is about 130 miles away!
We have one about 60 miles away, after that good luck. KTM, Husky are the same. Shame they don't do more to get more mainstream.
Matt Read. EXACTLY! And if you have tech problems with the bike, will the dealer be able to fix it?
Owned a 750 Shiver for 3years and loved it.
Got cold weather starting problems after the 10k service.
Dealer couldn't fix it.
Poor service by dealer network saw me deciding not to upgrade to a new Tuono.
Ended up with a New MT10 instead and love it.
Out of all features it has, I just like the Yamaha reliability.
Nice vid. I'm not sure the RS660's real rivals have even been made yet.....but they will. I've no doubt other manufacturers are looking at this & thinking how can they emulate it. Honda could sharpen the CBR650 up a bit & Yamaha & Kwack can use the R6 & ZX platforms to come up with softer siblings & Suzuki could soften their GSXR600 & reintroduce it to Europe & call it a GSXS600. Triumph's new Trident engine could also come to the party in a different guise down the line too. Voila, middleweight class reborn.....in theory lol.
Yep! Either weaken the ZX6R, R6, or CBR600RR. Or strengthen the CBR500R, Ninja 650, or Yamaha create a whole new bike (maybe a full faired MT-07 but weaker?)
@@sambeezy007 I think a faired as is or even sharpened MT-07 would be a great competitor to the RS660 if Yamaha spent a bit of money on brakes & suspension if they really wanted to compete. Also don't really feel cutting edge electronics is the way to go in this class despite Aprilia deserving credit for trying it.
@@ragerider6283 i agree. Electronics tend to be problematic at times
@@sambeezy007 And just not necessary or worth the extra expense or complexity with bikes of this type & power imo, other than ABS from a safety & legal perspective in Europe.
@@ragerider6283 that's what pushes me away from it. I believe you don't need ride modes etc. These higher cc bikes are high powered for a reason I think. Technology in bikes and cars will/are becoming more not worthy of buying because of cost. Electric rides are even more expensive if I'm correct
I'm very much an Aprilia guy. This is everything you said. Look forward to the next gen big bores too
They will sell as many as they can make i suspect, it hits right home :-)
I can't wait til they update the V4 with this body style... 😍 best looking version of aprilia so far
Simple explanation: Minimal requirements for a sportbike but also a bunch of user friendly assistance. It's a hand hold into the scary world of sportbikes and I respect that!
I would like to see them compared on the track and road. I hope the big 4 wakes up, because this bike is truly gonna change the game. Proving you don't have to get a litre bike to get all those electronic goodies with a proper display, and at the same time not breaking the bank. Well done
This comment shows you have no Idea what you are talking about. First of you don't need half the electronics packed on this bike especially with 100hp. The big 4 bikes will stay ahead of this on the track without all the wizardry. There is also the layer of reliability that Aprilia doesn't have and even with a cheaper to produce parallel compared to Inline 4s the price is still as close as the 600s.
@@diamondheat9 wow, I don't know what I'm talking by giving an opinion. Never claimed to be an expert, as matter of fact im just trying to learn as much as I can, didn't mean to offend anyone with my opinion.
@@tokyorick79 giving you my opinion and saying the big 4 don't need to wake up as this isn't competition
@@diamondheat9 sir, I own a kawasaki zx6r, and wish my bike had a tft display. I don't need all the other assists just the display. From what I've seen and read even the new zx10r still has that old school gauge cluster. A shop down south installs AIM displays on customers ZX10r's so im sure im not alone in wanting that display. Thats why I said what I said. If im going to go purchase a bike these things are going to be a factor. I see Honda must of gotten the memo because the 2021 or 2022 honda CBR 600r has a color tft display like the 1000, although its rumored the US isn't getting it. My apologies if you took offense to my statement. Have a peaceful day
@@tokyorick79 sit I own a zx6r as well and yes a tft display is nice but hardly a necessity when analog are proven and tft displays are still super new so no one knows how long they will last before they burn out. Also, analog are more responsive and precise than tft displays.
So it's a Ducati Supersport with 660cc?
Pretty much
Yeah, while not costing over 13k (Europe).
Great comparison! While I welcome all the rider aids, I wonder if they’re really necessary on a 660/100 horsepower bike?
Also, how is the handling? Is it more toward the Ninja 650 or the ZX-6R end of the spectrum?
Maybe a class of it's own. Ninja 650 is around 424lbs and the ZX6R is around 427. The Aprilia is 403.
@@sambeezy007 gsxr 600 k6 had better dry weight/power ratio (354/125) than aprilia (372/100). It hadnt any electronics, because on that power you really dont need any, maybe except abs. And it was 14 years ago. So i think today 650cc class is step down comparing to older 600cc.
@@paweleq19 Yeah it is a step down
..best closing words of any motorcycle review i`ve seen!
Curious to see how this bike compares to other roadsters like the Duke 890, Street Triple RS, & F900r. If I was considering this bike, I'd probably be looking at those bikes rather than SuperSport bikes or bikes like the Ninja 650. Great video, look forward to more content on this bike!
Exactly. Not sure why they aren’t comparing with those...
I agree, I was looking to get a street RS but this has caught my eye!
@Thgt Ggyh what are you talking???
I'm stoked for a front-end redesign now for their bigger bikes. They're so dated.
This is the true successor of the SV650S!
It needs to be bulletproof and have parts to last til eternity to put it back together to be an sv650. I knew a guy who wrecked his twice in a day, one time with it literally flipping 4 or 5 times, and it rode home from the track no problem. Well no problem besides the fact the clutch lever broke and I needed to push him at lights. Meanwhile, my last trip to a specialized dealer (you can't even go to an aprillia dealer in america) i slipped on a puddle of coolant, leaking out of a 0 miles rsv41100s water pump. Still have the pics too. And thats when its new, can't wait to see what happens when the highly questionable aprillia warranty runs out. You'll be stuck with a 12,000 dollar slow 600 that needs 2500 dollars in work when any Japanese manufacturer would probably charge half of that for a whole new engine, and probably work with you if you're the original buyer of the bike even if its off warranty, aprillia meanwhile will try and screw you out of your entitlement in the warranty
And we haven't even started talking about the feel and performance of a bike, you've not only never ridden, you've never seen.
I seriously think there's a subtle racist element in the euro bike craze, I think you're either ignorant or a racist.
im riding a 2001 yzf600r , i had to learn how to handle the power without the help of all the computers, it makes you a better rider,
and you respect the power and the bike allot more.
It's closer to a Ninja 650 than a ZX6R. A good first sporty bike, or perhaps for the older gent looking for something more comfortable. No way I'd swap my ZX6R for one.
They just set out to make the street bike everyone wanted
On point analysis. Good job!
A more rounded road orientated sports bike than all of the rest. April has knocked it out of he park with this one. I hope they get the sales to match their sterling effort to bring something like this to the market.
I think the best seller will be the touareg 660 , if it has the same tech with the rs and for about the same price, then it will have no competition in a very popular category since the rest of the middle cc adventure bikes don't even come close to this tech and features or come as optional with a big price hike.
I'm still attempting to understand the need for a Tuono model when the RS660 is already comfortable to ride, unlike most sport bikes. There isn't even that much less bodywork than the RS on the upcoming Tuono. What's the point of the Tuono?
Such a great production value in your videos.
You'll be to 1M subscriberd soon if keep at it !
TV grade !
Could it be just the Italian spirit of "Because we can"? 😄
Or, they just thought they wanted to make a middleweight bike, and because they are a brand who is proud of putting the most tech and the highest quality handling gear on their bikes, it was a natural road for them to take. Perhaps they didn't even consider whether they should make it "equal to" a Ninja 650 or CBR650R. And they already have a high powered alternative in the RSV4.
Seems that Aprilia never gave a flying f00k about making something equal to competition. Just look at RS125 two strokes, chassis alone was much more refined than some japanese big bikes
It is an intriguing design package. And it's pretty safe to assume it will be an absolute blast to ride in the twisties!
I reckon Aprilia's range of RSV4-powered bikes could use a third model, similar in design concept to the RS660, with a more street-focused aim.
You predicted the rs457😂
Excellent analysis.
What about price?
I have a question. Why Suzuki isn’t included? It seems like there isn’t any videos mentioning the Suzuki.
The bike looks and sounds amazing, but i much prefer to see that engine on a Tuono 660. About the rivals, this is aimed at Honda and Ducati. I don't think its competing against R6 and ZX-6R. I wouldn't trade my ZX-6R for that bike.
@@LuckyPause3d the question is: do you really need all this sophisticated electronics in bike with only 100bhp. 8 step traction control? Overkill. Wheelie control? Overkill. IMU? Overkill. Cruise control on bike which is not highway cruiser? Maybe in US, in Europe definitely overkill. Engine braking power setup? Total overkill. And so on and on. It is just 100hp, 600cc made that power 20+ years ago, my first bike, honda hornet from year 2000 had 97,5 hp and only thing i wanted to have was abs and quckshifter. But abs is now standard in bikes and quickshifter is something you can buy with bike or same aftermarket kit.
@@LuckyPause3d 2stroke bike have different power curve than any of 4 stroke bikes and 125cc 2 strokehave around 50hp with less then 100kg. You wont wheelie 170kg/100hp 4stroke bike by mistake or just by opening full throttle. You just cant. I rode 100hp/172kg inline 4, 4 stroke, 600cc for almost 5 years. And all of those electronics is just overkill. Period. Except abs.
100% wouldn't trade my ZX6R for a parallel twin with 30hp less. Not for all the electronic wizardry in the world.
Love it, but it's just a little underpowered for my taste... closer to 120hp and I'd buy it instantly.
You need to search for RS660 Trofeo
@@simod5723 It's nice, but I like street bikes. For track only use, I'd cut up an RC390.
Are you living on the Autobahn or something? 🤔
@@Porkycheun I I only drive the exact posted speed limit of exactly 35mph everywhere I go. I've never been faster than 65mph, I have seen the light. Time to buy a vespa.
@@MikeB-ng3ol Or walk, I am sure you could walk up to 65 mph, you’re so fast!
Who else wants the Tuono 660 Factory!
Yess. Might even trade my tuono 1100 in.
Frank Eichhorn wow that’s a big call. I rode a Tuono 1100 RR for the first time last weekend and have to say that it was one of the best bikes I’ve ever ridden. Just phenomenal! But way over powered for an everyday road bike. Hopefully the 660 Tuono has more torque than the RS 660! That would make it interesting, but not sure if you’d be disappointed after the 121 Nm your bike has.
@@samiam5326 Although i love my tuono 1100 and it is very rewarding on track, 175hp is just too much for the road and it can get you into big trouble.
I think the tuono 660 factory will be perfect for the road!
Frank Eichhorn I hear you. It definitely was a weapon. I could see how you could easily get into trouble if you weren’t careful. Thanks for the replies.
The trouble is not just keeping the licence. But more the constant fear of grannies driving their grocery shopper onto the street. Fuck.
Will this bike ever launch in india ?
Exciting new bike from Aprilia!
Aprilla sounds an exciting machine!
Hmm so this is exactly like a 600 in terms of features(from brakes, suspension up to electronics) but with 25ish less horsepower then the rest and a sitting position that looks a bit more comfortable? If I had the money I would get one ngl, it looks awesome
Search olso the weight...
@@simod5723 169kg... noice
Great overview, though it does beg the question... Does a 100 BHP sporty bike NEED all that expensive tech? I'm inclined to still go with the CBR650R because of it's proven reliability and lower cost per BHP. It also helps that I love the look of the CBR, though the Aprilia is now my second favorite looker. Hopefully Aprilia will have incentives that bring the price closer to the CBR650R or they offer a lower cost stripped down version without all the tech for those of us that prefer ABS and little else.
Honda is way too expensive for what it offers. Made in Thailand and has absolutely nothing to offer. You have to rev it so high to get any power and is heavy as an elephant. Wakeup from this Japanese dream, they no longer make good bikes. These bikes put together are not half as good as the rs660.
@@aprilthetortiecat807 I won't disagree that the CBR650R is overpriced, it should probably cost around $7,500. The same can be said for the CBR500R, which retails for $6,800 and should cost at least a grand less. Cost issues aside, I personally like that the CBR650R can rev higher and I prefer the inline 4 sound over parallel twins. The 650R has sufficient power down low for city and canyon riding but is also satisfying as engine speed builds. Most twins hit a fall off point around 8 to 9k where spinning any faster is a waste of time and stops being fun around 8k RPM. It seems like Aprilia have remedied some of the issues I have with parallel twins but I still think an I4 would be more my style. YMMV of course. Also, if I'm spending $11,300, I'm going get a Ninja 1000 SX. The Aprilia NEEDs to be less than $10k or I just don't see that many people buying it.
@@glsracer The problem is that the Japanese bikes have nothing new to offer anymore. Covered with lots of nasty plastic, no longer made in Japan and left behind in electronics and safety features. CBR's brakes are just unacceptably soft. Its steel chassis is moo stiff and has no safety features. It has a very jerky torqie control.
Most people think that it's still 1970 and Japanese bikes are the best. Japanese bikes sell only because of the past glories. CBR which is the best of Japanese bikes has no excitement and is too bland. You change the gear, to 2md 3rd 4th and you feel absolutely nothing. Throttle is on and off and you have to find an infinity long straight to get it go fast. RS660 on the other hand weighs less, has more power at lower rpm, more torque at lower rpm and is a high quality bike(RSV4 s measuring stick) Those Brembo 4.3 brakes makes a world of difference when it comes to stopping and you actually ride the bike with comfort. You know, if I wanted to buy a similar bike, it'd be the rs660. Lots of bike for the money. What engine configuration it has is totally irrelevant, how it makes you feed matters the most. I personally love the L-twin of Ducati, not the V4. I can't wait to see the 660.
@@aprilthetortiecat807 I dunno my CBR500R is built really well and I've had no issues with it despite installing a full system, modified airbox and filter, and a custom ECU flash with unlocked rev limit. It still needs cams but is a great bike. I just had to do all the work in unlocking all the stupid European A2 bullshit. New riders can handle 75 or 100 BHP, the EU and Australia need to STFU. I feel so bad for new riders overseas. Rant ended...
I don't really have a problem with it being made outside Japan, though I do think it's greedy to charge Japanese production prices for bikes built in third world countries. Saving cost on labor should lower the MSRP significantly.
I also don't disagree that the Aprilia RS660 is a great bike, I just think there needs to be a stripped version for around $9k without all the electronic nannies. 85 to 90 WHP can be managed by hand IMO, though rider assists might be nice for new riders who want to start with a bike they won't grow out of and live in a reasonable country without engine size limitations.
@@glsracer I see... You know, where I live, a motorcycle with more electronics/safety features is much much cheaper to insure. I must tell you that here is not a question of whether you can afford a bike, it's more question of can you afford the insane insurance and road tax?
I know some people don't like electronics, but this extra electronics once will be the distance between death and life. Better to have them than not.
Are we really comparing actual 600ccs like the r6 to this?
Read my mind. The ZX6R and R6 are in a different class than this. R7 and Ninja650 are the right bikes to compare. Idk how you put a ZX6R and R6 in the comparison, but then use a CBR650R instead of a CBR600RR... Im cnfused by what class people think certain bikes are in...
do you recommend this bike for beginners ?
What about the Tuono 660?
For the same money I can get a gsxs-1000 with remapped ecu that gets to 180hp and smooth throttle
180hp stock. Remapped would be well over 190
@@jponz85 Since when does a gsxs1000 have 180bhp stock?
@@frankeichhorn7979 the older models make 180, the new model makes 199hp. You're welcome
@@frankeichhorn7979 even a 10yr old gsxr 1000 makes 184hp stock. Wtf are you on? Lmao. My old ass zx10r makes 180hp stock
@@jponz85 Who's talking about gsx-r?? The gsx-s has 145bhp
Guess we need to wait and see more details and real comparisons, specially vs the Street Triple
The more I see of the RS660, the more I'm thinking, "Take my money!!!"
A faired Triumph Trident or Speed Triple S variant with less electronics and a lower price tag please Triumph. I was never fussed by the styling of the slightly ungainly Daytona
Aprilia is aiming for white space between the entry level and the super sport middle-weights mentioned in the video, but also trying to hit white space around some more expensive bikes that were also aiming at customers who wanted a little more comfort with their sport bike (Ducati Supersport and Kawasaki Ninja 1000). Those bikes push somewhat into the sport-touring category, but many people won't use them that way, but as a sporty bike that doesn't kill your joints.
Aprilia seems to be aiming between the CBR650R (close-ish power but much less sophisticated suspension and electronics) and the Ducati Supersport (more powerful, but similar levels of electronic goodies and chassis componentry). Here is the US, the RS660 also splits right down the middle in price.
It is nice to see manufacturers coloring outside the lines. I haven't seen them coloring into territory that will get my butt on the seat of something, but that's a whole other discussion in a completely different category of motorcycle. Perhaps the upcoming Toureg will oblige, but I think it will be a nicer, Italian Tenere...which isn't bad, just not exactly what I am looking for.
Ditch all but the ABS and traction control and chop a grand off list price please Aprillia 🙏
And while at it, make a high-spec Factory version ;)
And more Aprilia shops around the US.
@@joeridestrijcker445 The high quality version is available, we speak about "RS660 Trofeo", i don't know when will go out but it's very intresting bike
@@simod5723 that's not street legal, is it?
@@joeridestrijcker445 i don't Know, bit i Think that Is street legal.
I do not understand the power worries on the street? Have ridden an MT-07 around The Big Island for a couple of years at about 75/hp and 50/ft/lbs. Plenty of power. Close in weight. 100hp? That thing will fly. Just saw USA Pricing and it's about the same as a Desert Sled aka a couple grand less than expected. I'll wait for The Tuono but if The RS-660 is as comfy as stated might be time for sports bike.
When is Yamaha going to make a comfy faired MT-07, and why didn't they do it years ago.
I own an MT07 and would instantly swap it for a comfy faired version. Rode the R6 and it broke my back on the street. So I need to swap brands to get what I’m looking for.
You can put a comfy seat on it for 200 odd and taller fairing for 50 so there you go...
@@pkmkb007 Where do I get street legal fairings? I know they make race track fairings (no headlights)
@@xorbe2 Puig Touring windscreen can do ok job if you are 5' 8" and under. about $100 on amazon I got mine from ebay for 23 bucks.
For seat options you have yamaha comfort seat and astech seat can do the job for around 250 and 180 odd respectively.
Is it suitable for track riding or is it then a bit under powering compared to a zx6r or r6
@Vanessa Xoax it’s more if he can stand against 600cc 4 inline bikes in a competition
Ducati v2? Is that a fair comparison?
NOOOOOOO
100 hp parallel twin vs 150 hp V twin. Er, no.
Looks like it’s about 4K cheaper too
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could we get a POV video with only the engine and exhaust sound? :)
Xsr900 a good comparison?
They speak about zx6r 636 like it is somehow bad for longer trips. I understand this is an Aprilia vid, but my experience that the 636 is much better than Ninja 650 since its Showa USD front thats much more stable on windy highways. Id like to hear how the Aprilia stands out in this respect, I feel much safer with the 636 than 650 on the road, and if the Aprilia is closer to the 650 I wouldnt propably buy it - maybe I just need to try it out myself.
What about the MV 675..only thing is how much more that costs..
the F3 bikes are quite race-oriented, more like the R6 and CBR600RR: relatively uncomfortable on the street, making power quite high in the rev range etc
Well I was hoping for a comparison video but I guess it's to early for that.
Isn't the Honda CBR650R the closest competitor? A faired do-it-all bike around the 100hp mark.
Fantastic bike. I just think that it doesn’t need all of the electronics given it only has 100hp
Every Italian MC has more than 8 rider modes..commonly know as electrical faults...including pushing mode lol
You didn't think of comparing it to the Ducati Supersport? Why would you compare it to an MV F3800?
I think that the weight is the most important factor of this bike
the only problem with Aprilia is the service. They dont respect warranty and you have to wait weeks and weeks for your bike to get fixed. Buyer beware. I had to sell mine out of desperation.
Aprilia could have hit a sweet spot in the market here.
Looks a great bike but would be better with basic electronics and a £8.5K price tag.
I dont care, there's no way this thing can even hold a candle to the zx6r in literally any category that matters to a rider
So I really feel there are blurred lines for what people actually want. So I think the most direct competitor is the ktm 790, yamaha mt09. Yeah they lack the fairing but both more comfortable position, ktm has a lot of electronics. And both those can be fitted with more wind protection. I think people are going to find it under powered compared to other options. I ride and love my aprilia just feel this bike might have mist the mark a little.
Honestly, this was maybe the best motorbike comparison video I've seen. Excellent, excellent commentary, wonderful visuals, it was so professional compared to many others. Thank you for this, highly enjoyable and informative
I know it's not in the same cc category but I would like to see how it compares to the Ducati supersport.
A comparison that doesn’t make any sense!Different typology of bikes ad the same Aprilia explained and also even ad a “ blind “ can see just looking at the bike...
Maybe and if ... Aprilia launches another version , track oriented, then we can talk
Ninja 650 quite a bit cheaper?
Curious when they say it’s a more everyday bike how are the ergos? I mean what kinda forward lean are we talking because the video looks like a lot
Probably similar to the CBR600RR. If you sit as far forward as the seat will let you it's very comfortable, like riding a little R3. If you sit all the way back you are put into a race position.
The Triumph 765 was and will be the only competitior and this undercut it for the pricing bang on. Sad to see the 765r go.
I just bought a Ducati V4S 2020 and i want this bike! I used to own an 18 RSV4 RF so i absolutely love the brand and the bikes, this excites me and given my Ducati is a fraking super dragon burning me with its fire breath every chance it gets. This would be a nice option for a harmless ride. LOL Dont get me wrong i love the V4, i wanted the new RSV4 Factory but they didnt upgrade the front end, the lights...i wanted all that. But id buy this and be a happy two owner rider.
Looking forward to seeing the Touno version. Factory.
Aprilia: we are not competing with supersports
Journalists: let’s compare it to supersports
Aprilia may not have been too well known before but, give it a couple years with the RS being out and the Tuono 660 and Touareg 660 and I think they could find themselves being the most desirable brand on earth! Lol, they already are for me as I have an '08 Shiver 750, '09 Mana 850, '07 SR50R Factory and '14 SR50R Factory (both scooters fully upgraded)!!
I'm sure of one not very obvious rival,
Triumph Street Tripple !
Maybe more of a rival for the upcoming 660 Tuono but I'm sure few would be split between these 2.
Similar price range, non Japanese, loaded with technology...
I'll take the 650 Ninja over the 660 if you also give me the difference in money.
The 650 Ninja is plenty for the street and way more reliable.
How do you know the reliable of this bike?
Simone Di Giuseppe - Its a European bike. It will perform well but it WILL give you problems.
Same as European cars.
If you want reliability AND performance, buy Japanese.
@@blipco5 What!? Lol. It's only prejudice. The Honda competitor of this bike was made for 10years in Italy, like this bike...
Simone Di Giuseppe - Not prejudice.....experience.
Kawasaki will be cheaper to maintain and replace parts. I track my rsv4 rf for a whole year with zero issues so i dont know where the reliability issue comes from? i also track my 899 for a whole year and the only issues were recalls paid for by ducati. I also had to deal with recalls with my ninja 300 and grom. For some reason, i dont have much issues with any of my bikes, I track and weekend ride them all year round.
R7 should be added to the new update ! Sorry this was 11months ago video 😳
The R7 isn't in the same race class as this bike, though tbf neither are any of the other bikes he listed here.
Zx6r with the ergonomics of the ninja 650 would be nice.
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