Everything this guy is saying is so accurate and literally explains my ex. Monkey branchers tend too date or downside with people that are of less value then their former partners. Physically at least and with people that don’t have much dating experience to see the red flags.
This is so true. Another aspect:: my FA had planned to keep me as a friend. He had not planned for my walking away without a tear or drama. NC forever for me. He was stuck with his new love, without me. It didn't go as planned. I have healed and moved on with my life. It took one year of inner and outer work, but I did it. I watch your videos in order to be sure I recognize the red flags. Never again!!!
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I bet before you met your FA. You had never heard of such a despicable character flaw in a companion. I hadn't, and oh what a surprise I had coming😅😅😅😅
@@whiggygirl 18 month seemingly good relationship here. Without any warning, dumped, replaced & ghosted. 6 months now. Poof. I've been tormented but I'm through the hard part thanks to youtube videos and reading comments. I'm now empathetic towards her. I'll always love her for the best year and a half of my life, but I have no desire or connection left. I wish her the best and bid that chapter farewell.
25 years. 3 kids wonderful life. I thought wonderful wife. She hasn't been right after covid. Deep issues she never healed from childhood. I thought my unconditional love would conquer all. It didnt. When i found out she was unhappy i got needy and doubted myvalue. Blamed it all on me for taking her for granted and me being complacent. I tried so hard to be better. Spent thousands on mens courses which helped in alot of ways but didnt bring her back. She monkey branched and there is no changing that mindset once it starts. Shes left me with kids. Moved the next state over and wants to stay friends. No lawywrs. Gonna divorce just us and the process has started. Im still heartbroken a year after i realized we werent good and 6 months since she moved into an apartment in town. I now have to get strong so i dont accept her broken self to come back and repeat history. We had love then it turned into a lesson so i have to learn as hard as it is to hear. Thanks for this content
Ha! This is me and my ex to a T. Crazy how formulaic it is, but, yeah, it’s awful to experience. That guy really had me thinking for a long time that I was this awful person and that I did something to deserve it somehow. It was simply a decision he made. It hurt a lot, but he had no remorse, he just didn’t care and it baffled me so much. I get it now, I dodged a bullet, but man, I really did care for the guy. . .
after one month of our breakup, she started t date this new guy, when i see her new guy I felt something relief coz thats way more ugly than me lol haha
@@Collectork1k13 not for personality,instead its about money. im a good partner for her i support her for everything her dreams, school and career. i can only take her out in fast food chains, but when she met this guy he can take her to fancy resto which i couldnt
What a great analysis- I won't bore anyone with my experience but I will say that anyone who can do this (MB) literally has no soul. Are you out now with no children involved? No legal entanglements (marriage, mortgages loans) ? If so, you need to get on your knees and thank the Almighty with your whole heart. Confront, embrace and process the pain. Wear it like a badge of honor. No one will ever know but you how bad it hurts sometimes. And that's a good thing. Do not accept their calls, texts or overtures of any kind. Do not creep on their social media. Get on your knees again. Thank him for what you have. And for what you don't.
‘Let’s be friends’ is their bucket of water on your fire for a romantic relationship. If you’re interested in them, they already know you are a friend.
One of the best I have seen on this topic, very detailed and nuanced breakdown of the subject matter and accurate info, and matches up with reality of what I have seen in my romantic/dating experience dealing with this stuff throughout life. I’m sure the channel will blow up and grow over time
I wouldn’t put a time frame for the honeymoon phase. Knowing my ex, he’ll go above and beyond to extend it to force-convince himself it’s working out and the grass is greener. The longer he drags the more painful his fall will be
I guarantee you're spot on. I believe my ex will do the sane. She doesn't know how to have a long term relationship.. She never knew how to handle discomfort, conflict resolution and issues. She actually told me at one point, that communication isn't attractive! 😅 That blew my mind...
You speak so honestly. Love your videos and wise advice. Sometimes people do stay with the rebound person or someone they cheated on their spouse with. It may be rare like LeAnn Rimes who was said to have cheated on her husband with her co-star who was also married. They got married and are still together years later. We can only move on after being dumped and try not to compare or look back.
My ex went back and forth between me and another guy several times, since august. This guy doesn’t even know anything. She is now with him again for 3 months already, funny thing is, at the beginning of the month she unblocked me and started stalking my stories again, She does not even follow me. Several days ago even congratulated on my graduation. and she is still with that guy. So basically Paz explained what is happening there. She is again starting to do same things all over again, wishing for the different result, but relationship built on lies is doomed to fail.
Thank you so much for your acknowledgment of the hard work I put into my videos to explain it in the best possible way for you guys 🙏🏽🤍 Always here to support you! By the way, if you want you can also check out my Online Healing Coaching Program ➡️ pazgoldman.com/theriseofthephoenix Use the coupon code HEAL to get 50% OFF! (72 hours time-limit) Sending much love & healing 🤍💯
Thanks, this video had a lot of key markers. Seeing that they are clearly a cluster really helps to not take it personally. Its natural to make your partner feel good, its just sad in this case it accelerates thier devaluation phase and makes them even more selfish.
My girlfriend of almost 4 years, which also gave me two beautiful twin boys that are 2 1/2 left me for the guy that she cheated on me with this video is helping me so much realize the things I already knew the idea of her getting into another relationship is so wild to me because she told me if it wasn’t for this guy, she’d already be back with me. We used to fight all the time and I’d always just pack my stuff up and put it in the car and go park somewhere and look at my phone until she called she always used to call and we’d make up. I’ve been looking at my phone now for almost 2 months. I’ve only been in no contact for like a week.
This is 100% correct. I recently took my ex back after two months. After she dated another guy. We re-connected and things were amazing. Two weeks later she walked through my door. Her face, the energy, everything was off. She started a fight that day out of nowhere from the past and was completely blind sided. Come to find out she went on a date with another guy the night before!l from a mutual friend. After the fight and asking her if she was talking to someone else she offered friendship and cut off emotional/physical contact between us. I declined her offer. Went no-contact and my mutual friend a week later that she continues to see the new guy.
The devaluation phase is good to keep an eye out for as a key indicator. Its interesting that its necessary, like why not date 2 people you like? They have to pull one down.
My ex-wife didn’t start acting out of character until about 23 years into the relationship. 4 years later divorce. It was when she hit 40 and all her childhood shit came up.
My ex wife I believed Monkey Branched.... Broke my darn heart and spirit. But, I'm also happy that I see what type of person I was with for 5 years!!!!!
How long has it been for you. I been with my girl 16 yrs. Married 4. 2 girls. Still live in same home. I don't see her crawling back. She's cold as hell and seems happy in this monkey branch relationship. Changed phone plans, bank accounts, everything.
@bmore9088 She reached out a while back, to be honest. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but looking back, I can tell that she actually didn't want or divorce.... and really, neither did I. She reached out the other day in fact and wanted me to come and see everyone. Im not sure if she's with this other person or not, I simply don't bring it up into our conversations. Told me not that long ago that she still loves me. Im sorry to hear about your situation. I know that it's hard, especially when kids are involved. We have 3 together.... and they're always on my mind. Im still in love with her, and that doesn't help. I've healed and learned, but even then, I cant get her off my mind. I waited roughly 15 years to get married and have kids with her. Ive had opportunities with other woman, and I walk away from them all. You still living in the same house is, Im sure hard. Is there not anywhere else that you can go? And just because she "looks" happy, doesn't mean she truly is. You were with her for a very long time! Did you see your split up coming? Or was it out of nowhere.
I went through everything you just discussed. I went no contact two years ago. I would assume they probably with the monkey branch they left me for. I wouldn’t know. I never been reached out to.
He was alredy going on a trip within a month and living together in 3-4 .were sexting for 2 I fòund out called him out on it I never talked to him. after almost 2 years he tried emailing I didn't respond they seem happy good for them in love, and all
Majority of women do not come back. Also, what if the person is their person. Age comes into factor and coworkers. They connect through work experience. I just want the pain to submerge. Also, I don’t talk to ex 11years.
I fully understand when you suggest that l move on, but this is not an ex gf l am dealing with. I am dealing with letting go of a 20 year marriage with now almost adult children. I could easily walk away from a ex gf, but not so easily from a spouse that l have loved and committed to for twenty years.
I feel your pain. NC from the moment she walked, just got out of a 13yr relationship. Its been hard but its what i got to do for my mental being/not just to try and get her back. Weave broken up and got back together 4 times over the years, its a straight up mess. Wishing you the best in whatever the future brings for you 💪. -Cheers
I'm sorry to hear this man. What is the situation tho? Is your wife talking about reconciliation? Or is she still with the other guy? If the latter, i would aim to move on, and IF she comes back you need to set the rules and boundaries and not just let her straight back into the bed. Counselling (for her personally, then maybe marriage counselling) is probably a must if it's going to ever become a healthy relationship again. I'm not saying this is your fault at all, but there may have been things that you should have paid more attention to early on to keep this marriage going successfully. Be strong.
@@IvanSladoja-tj5cx its tough but its essentially the same situation whether its a 1 year relationship or 20 year. Yeah she was married to you for 20 years but now shes cheating on you with another person and planned the whole thing out
@thomasthetankengin7722 my condolences, brother. This shit isn't easy. But after a couple weeks I found my traction and have got a new job, house, car, and added 12 lbs of muscle. My goal is now to be both my best self and her greatest regret. How are you doing lately?
@@jaycole6824 I'm in the same boat man. I'm adding muscle every day, I'm working on my anxious attachment style, I'm finding myself slowly but it isn't easy. I don't even want her but I think my ego is hurting. Strength to both of us. Keep me posted on your progress brother. I'll do the same
@thomasthetankengin7722 yeah we definitely are in the same boat. In hindsight I'm an anxious attachment as well and she's an avoidant. She didn't cheat or monkey branch as far as I know so bro, no homo, but my heart feels for you man I can't imagine that pain. Speaking of the gym. I assume your strength is through the roof given the emotional drive behind it. Shit I almost cried in the gym a few times and that's when I grin and bear it and fucking push the limits to transform the negativity into productivity. Luckily this hasn't been my first rodeo, yet this time it's definitely hard, yet easier from experience on how to handle it. That first love though is always the worst, and hope this isn't your first love. My first I became depressed for years and didn't know how to cope
@@jaycole6824 man, we got to work on our self esteem dude. Anxiety has ruined so many relationships for me, I know it. But, I also think I've never been with a fully secure woman. So maybe we just need to weed out the avoidants and anxious types early! Have a read of Attached if you haven't. Fascinating audiobook. Glad yours didn't monkey branch, that is my situation but like you, not my first rodeo either and luckily not the love of my life... That time I ate porridge once a day for a month and lost muscle. This was always a difficult relationship so even though it's horrible thinking about her and my "friend" I just tell myself I dodged a bullet and now know who my friends are. There are some f***ed up ppl around I tell you. Sorry it's this painful my brother, keep pumping that iron and become the best version of yourself physically and spiritually! I will too! ✌️
It's strange then that there is so much anecdotal evidence of monkey branching turning into long term relationships amd marriage. The fact is the vast, vast majority of relationships fail and relationships borne out of monkey branching really do not have a significantly higher rate of failure than relationships in general.
If a man quickly enters a rebound relationship (resulting in an accidental baby) to avoid loneliness after the breakup of a strong but impossible love that lasted 10 years, and if this man is still attached to his ex, tries to maintain their connection, but is considering marrying his rebound partner after 4 years of the relationship, is it still considered a rebound relationship?
What if this ex is a covert narcissistic female? We lived together for 5 years and she left from one day to another, was very inexpected. She started secretly dating a guy for about a month, so met a few times only and she moved to his place straight from mine. Absolutely crazy! No closure no nothing. By the way we were engaged. @Coach Paz - Do you think this new relationship will last longer her being a covert narc? Do you think a covert narc will go through these phases as well? Can she feel guilt and remorse at all? She moved to a city 150km away, she knows nobody there and her work is in the city we lived together in. She barely knows this new person who by the way is about 20 years older than her, could be her father.
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My wife monkey branch to her co-worker and she now divorcing me to be be him. Her new lover knew about me. Its been 8 months that I know of, but he said he been dealing with her a year. Will it last
It may or may not last but one thing is sure that whenever they will have a hard time in the new relationship they will think about u and how good u were. Whereas once u move on you will not think of them ever bcoz you know deep down she has wronged you. But as coach paz said I haven't seen a monkey branched relationship ever happy. They were technically long lasting and called successful but they were miserable with each other their whole lives.
You’re not alone. My wife of 19 years is now dating her boss. Pretty sure that started well before she mentioned divorce. Perimenopause seems to be a common theme.
Its possible to monkey branch for a normal relationship to a long distance one? I think my ex gf didi that but it makes no sense in my head, she is probably never going to see the other guy, or 2 times in a year ( we are from spain, the guy is from usa)
Coach Paz, what can you say about a common friend of mine and my ex started massaging me for asking about me and my ex. These friends chatted me suddenly asking how they can help me and my ex bring back together.i hope you can make a video about it too since i don't understand what is happening. My ex is still with his gf(my replacement) but these friends is asking me how can they help me. My ex seems happy and contented and actually blocked me, but there's our friends trying to get info from me out of no where. Im not communicating these friends for a while. I just don't understand. I hope you can make an honest content about it.
🗣️ I mentioned this in few of my videos about the “Indirect direct approach” that an ex will take in order for them to try getting you back. I would suggest that you MOVE ON due to the fact that he has been with someone else. Now all you need to do is to take this time for you to DO THE WORK! Heal & grow from this! 🐦🔥Feel free to check out my Online Healing Coaching Program ➡️ pazgoldman.com/theriseofthephoenix Use the coupon code HEAL to get 50% OFF! (72 hours time-limit) ☎️ Also, if you want to talk to me to get a better understanding about your situation and to build a healing plan, feel free to check this link to book a 1-on-1 video consultation call with me ➡️ bit.ly/coachpazgoldman
@@PazGoldmanOfficial I just don't understand why they're sending people to soften me but kept me on their blacklist coach. And they're not single. It's a dick approach for me
@Tashapantasia Yes it is a dick and a cowered approach! But he act like this because he is emotionally immature, he can’t handle you directly… In any case as I already said, focus on yourself now and move on, HE IS NO GOOD FOR YOU, YOU ARE WORTHY OF SO MUCH MORE 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🥊
Coaz Paz, shalom! What are usual dymanics when they branch to Long Distance Relationship? My ex monkey branched to LDR and is with that person for 14 months already. She posts their trips but never posts him.
@@neodistinct that’s a great question brother and I think you already know the answer if she doesn’t post him she’s keeping her options open and the fact that this is a long distance relationship just means that it’s an unhealthy relationship that will not last for long even if they are 14 months together, doesn’t mean that this is a healthy relationship or successful one. I would highly encourage you to stop tracking how long they’ve been together or if she posts him or not focus on yourself and heal ! I’m here for you, my friend if you need help
Same here. LDR. Cheating for 2 years. Now hiding him. We have been together for 28 years. 4 sons. She ist trying to use me as a saftybranch. Nocontact for 1 month. We met yesterday. She is reconsidering now. But cannot let him go. Because it feels so good. 🥲 NC again.
doesnt mean anything some people are private and dont want people all in their business. theyll just share a few harmless vaca pics. im like that. like coach said move on
I see that many ex will monkey branch and move in with a coworker. Is a coworker relationship more likely last longer or end quicker since they will be together almost 100 percent of their time ?
i think so. i think monkeybrachers are generally searching for purpose and work can give that purpose. co workers can have a shared purpose and bond on vasoprofen instead of oxitocen
Mine left with my friend and is in the honeymoon phase. I went straight into no contact and haven’t heard anything. But, it’s not time and by the time she comes around ( because our mutual friend is a loser) I will be over it
Literally the same thing happened to me. Ex and I lived together for 2 years, she is now with my friend of 25 years who I believe just casually swooped in there and flirted with her when he could see things were rocky. She does actually seem confused and remorseful. Not brazen and bold about it, but still doing it because she can't handle the pain of being alone. Low value people like this don't deserve our presence
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you can extend a relationship with a monkeybrancher if you bounce at the first sign of disengagement/abnormal behavior/disrespect . this reals them back in before they can vet your replacement. this would only work if you have avoidant tendacies yourself. i dont think an anxious can pull it off.
Same here. 19 years married. 27 years together. She used to be so sweet and loyal but did get jealous from time to time. I never had eyes for other women. I thought I had won the lottery. I guess I was the only one who knew what love was.
you are really good at analyzing. however,monkey branchers are good for guys that are continuosly self improving. especially if you can involve them in your improvement and give them a purpose. they push you to achieve because if you stop they start looking for someone else. this only works of course if lifetime achievements is something you want for yourself.
my current chick monkeybranched to me from her baby daddy and she hasnt looked back. the keys continuously add value to her personal growth and be quick to bounce at the slightest disrespect.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but how would you accept that to yourself? To make matters worse, what makes you so special? You know, she's gonna do the same thing to you. 😂😂😂
@@Californialovet i'm redpill so i believe that is women's true nature so i expect it, prepare for it and use it to my advantage. 1. no leverage, no kids, no joint assets that can be used against me. 2. i'm digital so i date in countries where i am more "special". 3. i don't tolerate even the slightest disrespect. 4. last but not least i changed my mindset to If she monkeybranches that's not a problem, but an opportunity. the opportunity to either find someone better and do the honeymoon phase of a relationship again, or we get back together stronger, she learns my boundaries are non negotiable and that the other options aren't as great. so far have a wonderful 3 year relationship that gives me 95% great experiences.
Baby mamas are the worse. What are you thinking? Guys that get with baby mamas are very beta that’s why most single mothers struggle in the dating market. No man wants raise another man’s child
Everything this guy is saying is so accurate and literally explains my ex. Monkey branchers tend too date or downside with people that are of less value then their former partners. Physically at least and with people that don’t have much dating experience to see the red flags.
This is so true. Another aspect:: my FA had planned to keep me as a friend. He had not planned for my walking away without a tear or drama. NC forever for me. He was stuck with his new love, without me. It didn't go as planned. I have healed and moved on with my life. It took one year of inner and outer work, but I did it. I watch your videos in order to be sure I recognize the red flags. Never again!!!
I bet before you met your FA. You had never heard of such a despicable character flaw in a companion. I hadn't, and oh what a surprise I had coming😅😅😅😅
Did your ex return?
@@whiggygirl
18 month seemingly good relationship here. Without any warning, dumped, replaced & ghosted. 6 months now. Poof.
I've been tormented but I'm through the hard part thanks to youtube videos and reading comments. I'm now empathetic towards her. I'll always love her for the best year and a half of my life, but I have no desire or connection left. I wish her the best and bid that chapter farewell.
I'm so sorry to hear what she did, but goad you are recovering
25 years. 3 kids wonderful life. I thought wonderful wife. She hasn't been right after covid. Deep issues she never healed from childhood. I thought my unconditional love would conquer all. It didnt. When i found out she was unhappy i got needy and doubted myvalue. Blamed it all on me for taking her for granted and me being complacent. I tried so hard to be better. Spent thousands on mens courses which helped in alot of ways but didnt bring her back. She monkey branched and there is no changing that mindset once it starts. Shes left me with kids. Moved the next state over and wants to stay friends. No lawywrs. Gonna divorce just us and the process has started. Im still heartbroken a year after i realized we werent good and 6 months since she moved into an apartment in town.
I now have to get strong so i dont accept her broken self to come back and repeat history.
We had love then it turned into a lesson so i have to learn as hard as it is to hear.
Thanks for this content
@@dr.weirdbeard2840 Keep going bro it will get better
Best coach out there. No BS. Helping me heal and seeing things for what they are!
Thank you so much my friend!
I never knew about monkey branching until it happened to me I think more people need to be aware of this thanks for this video
Ha! This is me and my ex to a T. Crazy how formulaic it is, but, yeah, it’s awful to experience. That guy really had me thinking for a long time that I was this awful person and that I did something to deserve it somehow. It was simply a decision he made. It hurt a lot, but he had no remorse, he just didn’t care and it baffled me so much. I get it now, I dodged a bullet, but man, I really did care for the guy. . .
My ex got engaged after eight months dating the new guy. Just move on, people. It's not worth the pain holding on to them
Sorry that has to be painful
after one month of our breakup, she started t date this new guy, when i see her new guy I felt something relief coz thats way more ugly than me lol haha
@@vonrey12 isnt that worse? Cuz she fell for personality instead?
@@Collectork1k13 not for personality,instead its about money.
im a good partner for her i support her for everything her dreams, school and career.
i can only take her out in fast food chains, but when she met this guy he can take her to fancy resto which i couldnt
My ex too got engaged within 8 months. Didn't Even give me a proper closure or reason or break up.
What a great analysis-
I won't bore anyone with my experience but I will say that anyone who can do this (MB) literally has no soul.
Are you out now with no children involved? No legal entanglements (marriage, mortgages loans) ?
If so, you need to get on your knees and thank the Almighty with your whole heart.
Confront, embrace and process the pain. Wear it like a badge of honor. No one will ever know but you how bad it hurts sometimes. And that's a good thing.
Do not accept their calls, texts or overtures of any kind.
Do not creep on their social media.
Get on your knees again. Thank him for what you have. And for what you don't.
they have souls, you just arent the man for them. learn and improve. i dont think coach paz is teaching victimhood
‘Let’s be friends’ is their bucket of water on your fire for a romantic relationship.
If you’re interested in them,
they already know you are a friend.
One of the best I have seen on this topic, very detailed and nuanced breakdown of the subject matter and accurate info, and matches up with reality of what I have seen in my romantic/dating experience dealing with this stuff throughout life. I’m sure the channel will blow up and grow over time
I wouldn’t put a time frame for the honeymoon phase. Knowing my ex, he’ll go above and beyond to extend it to force-convince himself it’s working out and the grass is greener. The longer he drags the more painful his fall will be
I guarantee you're spot on. I believe my ex will do the sane. She doesn't know how to have a long term relationship.. She never knew how to handle discomfort, conflict resolution and issues. She actually told me at one point, that communication isn't attractive! 😅 That blew my mind...
Same with my ex. Goodluck to her and the new toy. Popcorn on me when all hell breaks loss
Indifference has never felt better
Honestly 100percent accurate.Even the months .Great analysis bro
You speak so honestly. Love your videos and wise advice. Sometimes people do stay with the rebound person or someone they cheated on their spouse with. It may be rare like LeAnn Rimes who was said to have cheated on her husband with her co-star who was also married. They got married and are still together years later. We can only move on after being dumped and try not to compare or look back.
I love how you have the visual aides. Its a dope reference and I'm a visual learner.
My ex went back and forth between me and another guy several times, since august. This guy doesn’t even know anything. She is now with him again for 3 months already, funny thing is, at the beginning of the month she unblocked me and started stalking my stories again, She does not even follow me. Several days ago even congratulated on my graduation. and she is still with that guy. So basically Paz explained what is happening there. She is again starting to do same things all over again, wishing for the different result, but relationship built on lies is doomed to fail.
Have some respect for yourself and kick her out of your life man
Block that shit out of your life. You are a King 👑 and kings don't tolerate shit around their lives.
Why ain't you blocking this person? I mean do you like this person to use you and others?
@@sunnykhan5451 funny thing she blocked me out of nowhere several days ago, but throughout whole July she was stalking my stories.
you are not over her and you are just her back up option. sorry... not sorry...
Paz, it’s really great how good you explain all what happens in a breakup!!!
Thank you so much for your acknowledgment of the hard work I put into my videos to explain it in the best possible way for you guys 🙏🏽🤍
Always here to support you!
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Thanks, this video had a lot of key markers. Seeing that they are clearly a cluster really helps to not take it personally. Its natural to make your partner feel good, its just sad in this case it accelerates thier devaluation phase and makes them even more selfish.
My girlfriend of almost 4 years, which also gave me two beautiful twin boys that are 2 1/2 left me for the guy that she cheated on me with this video is helping me so much realize the things I already knew the idea of her getting into another relationship is so wild to me because she told me if it wasn’t for this guy, she’d already be back with me. We used to fight all the time and I’d always just pack my stuff up and put it in the car and go park somewhere and look at my phone until she called she always used to call and we’d make up. I’ve been looking at my phone now for almost 2 months. I’ve only been in no contact for like a week.
Great video 👏🏽 helped me so much! Very clear explanations and examples
Wow. This guy is very good. Explained my person exactly
@@AdamMcAuliffe05 thank you so much for acknowledgment, my friend I appreciate it! 🙏🏽
Thank you! Exactly what I needed to hear to understand.
This is 100% correct. I recently took my ex back after two months. After she dated another guy. We re-connected and things were amazing. Two weeks later she walked through my door. Her face, the energy, everything was off. She started a fight that day out of nowhere from the past and was completely blind sided. Come to find out she went on a date with another guy the night before!l from a mutual friend. After the fight and asking her if she was talking to someone else she offered friendship and cut off emotional/physical contact between us. I declined her offer. Went no-contact and my mutual friend a week later that she continues to see the new guy.
Don't accept any shit from her by blocking her first. That will be healthy for your spirit.
bro respext your self, she betrayed you but why do you still acept her?
The devaluation phase is good to keep an eye out for as a key indicator. Its interesting that its necessary, like why not date 2 people you like? They have to pull one down.
You are absolutely right. Thank you for speaking the truth. It is human nature to hurt and heal anything outside of that is a mental situation hidden.
Theses are also narcissistic trades.i went through all these and more,and she was a big downgrade.
Another excellent video Brother Paz!! very true and point to point explanation 👍
My ex-wife didn’t start acting out of character until about 23 years into the relationship. 4 years later divorce. It was when she hit 40 and all her childhood shit came up.
God exactly the same with me, exactly the same!
So grateful, thank you . Your videos are really helping me understand what has happened 2.5 moths ago when my ex MB to greener grass.
My ex wife I believed Monkey Branched.... Broke my darn heart and spirit. But, I'm also happy that I see what type of person I was with for 5 years!!!!!
How long has it been for you. I been with my girl 16 yrs. Married 4. 2 girls. Still live in same home. I don't see her crawling back. She's cold as hell and seems happy in this monkey branch relationship. Changed phone plans, bank accounts, everything.
Your wife reach out yet or no?
@bmore9088 She reached out a while back, to be honest. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but looking back, I can tell that she actually didn't want or divorce.... and really, neither did I. She reached out the other day in fact and wanted me to come and see everyone. Im not sure if she's with this other person or not, I simply don't bring it up into our conversations. Told me not that long ago that she still loves me.
Im sorry to hear about your situation. I know that it's hard, especially when kids are involved. We have 3 together.... and they're always on my mind. Im still in love with her, and that doesn't help. I've healed and learned, but even then, I cant get her off my mind. I waited roughly 15 years to get married and have kids with her. Ive had opportunities with other woman, and I walk away from them all. You still living in the same house is, Im sure hard. Is there not anywhere else that you can go? And just because she "looks" happy, doesn't mean she truly is. You were with her for a very long time! Did you see your split up coming? Or was it out of nowhere.
Great and good atep towards reunion
Thank you for your explanation and help
You got it brother 🙏🏽💪🏽 Tnx for the acknowledgement!
Great video!
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I went through everything you just discussed. I went no contact two years ago. I would assume they probably with the monkey branch they left me for. I wouldn’t know. I never been reached out to.
He was alredy going on a trip within a month and living together in 3-4 .were sexting for 2 I fòund out called him out on it I never talked to him. after almost 2 years he tried emailing I didn't respond they seem happy good for them in love, and all
Would be cool to see the estimated timelines for each stage
I love your videos you keep it real it makes me laugh thank you
Majority of women do not come back. Also, what if the person is their person. Age comes into factor and coworkers. They connect through work experience. I just want the pain to submerge. Also, I don’t talk to ex 11years.
no such thing as their person. thats that anxious attachment fantasy talk.
@collettekingrodriguez4492 The statistics suggest you are wrong. Many women return
Thank you Paz! This has helped me a lot! ❤
This is absolutely brilliant.
I fully understand when you suggest that l move on, but this is not an ex gf l am dealing with. I am dealing with letting go of a 20 year marriage with now almost adult children. I could easily walk away from a ex gf, but not so easily from a spouse that l have loved and committed to for twenty years.
I agree. Not easy at all, but still just as necessary. Fiance left after 9 yr relationship. I should've went NC from the beginning
I feel your pain, stay strong. That's all we can do
I feel your pain. NC from the moment she walked, just got out of a 13yr relationship. Its been hard but its what i got to do for my mental being/not just to try and get her back. Weave broken up and got back together 4 times over the years, its a straight up mess. Wishing you the best in whatever the future brings for you 💪. -Cheers
I'm sorry to hear this man. What is the situation tho? Is your wife talking about reconciliation? Or is she still with the other guy? If the latter, i would aim to move on, and IF she comes back you need to set the rules and boundaries and not just let her straight back into the bed. Counselling (for her personally, then maybe marriage counselling) is probably a must if it's going to ever become a healthy relationship again. I'm not saying this is your fault at all, but there may have been things that you should have paid more attention to early on to keep this marriage going successfully. Be strong.
@@IvanSladoja-tj5cx its tough but its essentially the same situation whether its a 1 year relationship or 20 year.
Yeah she was married to you for 20 years but now shes cheating on you with another person and planned the whole thing out
Thanks coach yiu do a nice job in providing detail.. I am heartbroken but I needed to hear this as I thought I was going crazy.
Damn... She got me good then. The week before our 5th anniversary too. Why is hindsight so clear? Time to heal.
Try on your birthday weekend bro... With my oldest "friend"
@thomasthetankengin7722 my condolences, brother. This shit isn't easy. But after a couple weeks I found my traction and have got a new job, house, car, and added 12 lbs of muscle. My goal is now to be both my best self and her greatest regret. How are you doing lately?
@@jaycole6824 I'm in the same boat man. I'm adding muscle every day, I'm working on my anxious attachment style, I'm finding myself slowly but it isn't easy. I don't even want her but I think my ego is hurting. Strength to both of us. Keep me posted on your progress brother. I'll do the same
@thomasthetankengin7722 yeah we definitely are in the same boat. In hindsight I'm an anxious attachment as well and she's an avoidant. She didn't cheat or monkey branch as far as I know so bro, no homo, but my heart feels for you man I can't imagine that pain. Speaking of the gym. I assume your strength is through the roof given the emotional drive behind it. Shit I almost cried in the gym a few times and that's when I grin and bear it and fucking push the limits to transform the negativity into productivity. Luckily this hasn't been my first rodeo, yet this time it's definitely hard, yet easier from experience on how to handle it. That first love though is always the worst, and hope this isn't your first love. My first I became depressed for years and didn't know how to cope
@@jaycole6824 man, we got to work on our self esteem dude. Anxiety has ruined so many relationships for me, I know it. But, I also think I've never been with a fully secure woman. So maybe we just need to weed out the avoidants and anxious types early! Have a read of Attached if you haven't. Fascinating audiobook. Glad yours didn't monkey branch, that is my situation but like you, not my first rodeo either and luckily not the love of my life... That time I ate porridge once a day for a month and lost muscle. This was always a difficult relationship so even though it's horrible thinking about her and my "friend" I just tell myself I dodged a bullet and now know who my friends are. There are some f***ed up ppl around I tell you. Sorry it's this painful my brother, keep pumping that iron and become the best version of yourself physically and spiritually! I will too! ✌️
It's strange then that there is so much anecdotal evidence of monkey branching turning into long term relationships amd marriage.
The fact is the vast, vast majority of relationships fail and relationships borne out of monkey branching really do not have a significantly higher rate of failure than relationships in general.
If a man quickly enters a rebound relationship (resulting in an accidental baby) to avoid loneliness after the breakup of a strong but impossible love that lasted 10 years, and if this man is still attached to his ex, tries to maintain their connection, but is considering marrying his rebound partner after 4 years of the relationship, is it still considered a rebound relationship?
Who does that? You have a child you lost the opportunity of your ex. Marry your rebound and that’s it. You made your choice
What if this ex is a covert narcissistic female? We lived together for 5 years and she left from one day to another, was very inexpected. She started secretly dating a guy for about a month, so met a few times only and she moved to his place straight from mine. Absolutely crazy! No closure no nothing. By the way we were engaged.
@Coach Paz - Do you think this new relationship will last longer her being a covert narc? Do you think a covert narc will go through these phases as well? Can she feel guilt and remorse at all?
She moved to a city 150km away, she knows nobody there and her work is in the city we lived together in. She barely knows this new person who by the way is about 20 years older than her, could be her father.
I am curious when reality sets in at a month or so how long do they stay in each of the stages for? Do they jump back and fourth between stages?
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My wife monkey branch to her co-worker and she now divorcing me to be be him. Her new lover knew about me. Its been 8 months that I know of, but he said he been dealing with her a year. Will it last
@@malvoguest9199 I don't think it will last my friend. They are both cheaters and will never have any trust. Without trust nothing will progress
whats your definition of "last"
@@moondogsundown8458 last it will not
It may or may not last but one thing is sure that whenever they will have a hard time in the new relationship they will think about u and how good u were. Whereas once u move on you will not think of them ever bcoz you know deep down she has wronged you. But as coach paz said I haven't seen a monkey branched relationship ever happy. They were technically long lasting and called successful but they were miserable with each other their whole lives.
You’re not alone. My wife of 19 years is now dating her boss. Pretty sure that started well before she mentioned divorce. Perimenopause seems to be a common theme.
Its possible to monkey branch for a normal relationship to a long distance one? I think my ex gf didi that but it makes no sense in my head, she is probably never going to see the other guy, or 2 times in a year ( we are from spain, the guy is from usa)
Well they have been 2 yrs tog. now and I've heard they have been off and on but still tog. Till now..
On again off again, it’s already toxic and will eventually blow up
I think he's been monkey branching between me and an ex GF. I'm trying to let the reality of that sink in. Need to get away from this pain.
How do you go radio silence when you have kids? I have to see my ex wife 4 times a week.
Right interesting
Really good analysis
Paz mines married her coworker became pregnant after 2 months. It's been almost 2 years now. We share a 9 year old son together.
Is she now happy in her marriage with her co-worker?
Sounds just like she got more problems. Doesnt mean her mind isnt shredded.
He jumped ship and drowned in the waves
Coach Paz, what can you say about a common friend of mine and my ex started massaging me for asking about me and my ex. These friends chatted me suddenly asking how they can help me and my ex bring back together.i hope you can make a video about it too since i don't understand what is happening. My ex is still with his gf(my replacement) but these friends is asking me how can they help me. My ex seems happy and contented and actually blocked me, but there's our friends trying to get info from me out of no where. Im not communicating these friends for a while. I just don't understand. I hope you can make an honest content about it.
Normal. They’ll send a mutual friend to soften you up. Just ignore them.
🗣️ I mentioned this in few of my videos about the “Indirect direct approach” that an ex will take in order for them to try getting you back.
I would suggest that you MOVE ON due to the fact that he has been with someone else.
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@@PazGoldmanOfficial I just don't understand why they're sending people to soften me but kept me on their blacklist coach. And they're not single. It's a dick approach for me
@Tashapantasia Yes it is a dick and a cowered approach! But he act like this because he is emotionally immature, he can’t handle you directly…
In any case as I already said, focus on yourself now and move on, HE IS NO GOOD FOR YOU, YOU ARE WORTHY OF SO MUCH MORE 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🥊
Btw, he broke up to me 4 yrs ago. But we're together for 13yrs and we have a son. He's acting cold everytime as well.
Coaz Paz, shalom! What are usual dymanics when they branch to Long Distance Relationship?
My ex monkey branched to LDR and is with that person for 14 months already. She posts their trips but never posts him.
@@neodistinct that’s a great question brother and I think you already know the answer if she doesn’t post him she’s keeping her options open and the fact that this is a long distance relationship just means that it’s an unhealthy relationship that will not last for long even if they are 14 months together, doesn’t mean that this is a healthy relationship or successful one.
I would highly encourage you to stop tracking how long they’ve been together or if she posts him or not focus on yourself and heal !
I’m here for you, my friend if you need help
Same here. LDR. Cheating for 2 years. Now hiding him. We have been together for 28 years. 4 sons. She ist trying to use me as a saftybranch.
Nocontact for 1 month. We met yesterday. She is reconsidering now. But cannot let him go. Because it feels so good. 🥲
NC again.
doesnt mean anything some people are private and dont want people all in their business. theyll just share a few harmless vaca pics. im like that. like coach said move on
This is basically me, my girl left me recently
I see that many ex will monkey branch and move in with a coworker. Is a coworker relationship more likely last longer or end quicker since they will be together almost 100 percent of their time ?
i think so. i think monkeybrachers are generally searching for purpose and work can give that purpose. co workers can have a shared purpose and bond on vasoprofen instead of oxitocen
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Mine left with my friend and is in the honeymoon phase. I went straight into no contact and haven’t heard anything. But, it’s not time and by the time she comes around ( because our mutual friend is a loser) I will be over it
Literally the same thing happened to me. Ex and I lived together for 2 years, she is now with my friend of 25 years who I believe just casually swooped in there and flirted with her when he could see things were rocky. She does actually seem confused and remorseful. Not brazen and bold about it, but still doing it because she can't handle the pain of being alone. Low value people like this don't deserve our presence
what about when he's been in a long distance for 2 years? and I didn't knw?
Do they always fail.
our EGO ~ especially as a man.
as Tate says; breakup hits a man harder, because a woman (especially in todays digital world), has instant abundance of options straight away.
Be strong ~ male ~ female or non binary types; listen to Coach Paz.
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get your passport and you can have that abundance also.
you can extend a relationship with a monkeybrancher if you bounce at the first sign of disengagement/abnormal behavior/disrespect . this reals them back in before they can vet your replacement. this would only work if you have avoidant tendacies yourself. i dont think an anxious can pull it off.
She did this to me after 16 years and 2 kids. The pain is unreal.
@@kingkunte3234 it is unreal, love and Light brother
@@kingkunte3234 same here.
Same here. 19 years married. 27 years together. She used to be so sweet and loyal but did get jealous from time to time. I never had eyes for other women. I thought I had won the lottery. I guess I was the only one who knew what love was.
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you are really good at analyzing. however,monkey branchers are good for guys that are continuosly self improving. especially if you can involve them in your improvement and give them a purpose. they push you to achieve because if you stop they start looking for someone else. this only works of course if lifetime achievements is something you want for yourself.
my current chick monkeybranched to me from her baby daddy and she hasnt looked back. the keys continuously add value to her personal growth and be quick to bounce at the slightest disrespect.
@@moondogsundown8458 bro have morals and integrity.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but how would you accept that to yourself? To make matters worse, what makes you so special? You know, she's gonna do the same thing to you. 😂😂😂
@@Californialovet i'm redpill so i believe that is women's true nature so i expect it, prepare for it and use it to my advantage. 1. no leverage, no kids, no joint assets that can be used against me. 2. i'm digital so i date in countries where i am more "special". 3. i don't tolerate even the slightest disrespect. 4. last but not least i changed my mindset to If she monkeybranches that's not a problem, but an opportunity. the opportunity to either find someone better and do the honeymoon phase of a relationship again, or we get back together stronger, she learns my boundaries are non negotiable and that the other options aren't as great. so far have a wonderful 3 year relationship that gives me 95% great experiences.
Baby mamas are the worse. What are you thinking? Guys that get with baby mamas are very beta that’s why most single mothers struggle in the dating market. No man wants raise another man’s child