Poker Math: Using the 2x4 method to convert from outs to percentages

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @Pokernerve
    @Pokernerve  6 лет назад +1

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    • @chefmikeankh6434
      @chefmikeankh6434 Год назад +1

      Thank you. Can you explain why you use the x2 and x4? The reason and formula please.

  • @shivasirons6159
    @shivasirons6159 2 года назад +6

    Whats the most outs you can have? A flush draw with open ended plus 2 overs? So 21 ?

    • @smack311magic
      @smack311magic 2 года назад +4

      Flop is 776 with two clubs. You have 98 clubs. Assuming the opponent is on an under pair you have 24 outs since if another six comes it counterfeits his underpair. On the turn you could have 27 outs if another overcard comes since if it pairs on the river it also counterfeits his underpair.

  • @drgregoryhouse1470
    @drgregoryhouse1470 7 месяцев назад

    @2:04 If you say the opponent has a small pocket pair, i would say you have 16 outs, 4 queens, 3 Aces, 3 Kings, 3 jacks and 3 Ts

  • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
    @user-yg1dg6xm2g Год назад +4

    The ability to calculate pot odds is highly stressed, but in No-Limit (NL) poker, situations where you can make a favorable call based on these odds are few and far between.

  • @johnconnor2053
    @johnconnor2053 Год назад +1

    Thanks M8, it’s a great refresher. 👍

  • @kadenvaillancourt8997
    @kadenvaillancourt8997 5 лет назад +7

    watching you at the final table in 109 bounty builder right now! GL

  • @DJcyberslash
    @DJcyberslash 2 года назад +4

    The best video on this strategy

  • @WilfredVyvyan
    @WilfredVyvyan Год назад +1

    When do you calculate these?

  • @skildal87
    @skildal87 4 дня назад

    why is AK Hearts only 9 outs? What about the 6 outs to hit pairs? Is pairs not worth looking at?

  • @Goodthief
    @Goodthief 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks i needed this

  • @taf8903
    @taf8903 2 года назад +2

    The second example hand also has a possible straight. How many outs would this add? Would I take 4 Q and 4 T and divide by 2 for 11 total outs?

  • @andrewdelacalzada6802
    @andrewdelacalzada6802 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this!

  • @egeayvala1799
    @egeayvala1799 2 года назад +2

    okay imagine this heads up
    one player has King of Hearts and King of Clubs
    i have 87 Diamonds
    flop is 5 (diamond) 6(diamond) and 8 (heart)
    computer tells me i have 64% chance of winning with 20 outs
    which should be 20x4=80
    from 8 to 20 the difference is 12
    so 80-12=68%
    but computer says its 64%
    because of some Tie probablities
    how does it calculate the tie possibilities
    also in the same example-if player with kings has-KIng of diamonds
    my outs become 19-
    so same will apply 19x4=72
    difference being 72-11
    63%
    but computer says its 61%
    i dont get the Tie thing

    • @egeayvala1799
      @egeayvala1799 2 года назад

      i mean i can visualise what can happen but i dont know how does it calculate it

    • @demorogaming8835
      @demorogaming8835 Год назад +1

      If you’re asking how you calculate tie odds effectively, you don’t. The computer does it by simulating every possible turn and river combination.

  • @kevinross1998
    @kevinross1998 2 года назад +4

    Very nice. Quick and easy to understand.

  • @gzorgyy
    @gzorgyy 6 месяцев назад

    why do we minus 1 and 2 from 9 and 10 jus bcos theyre above 8? i dont understand

  • @chefmikeankh6434
    @chefmikeankh6434 Год назад +7

    I’d rather play in person. Online uses bots and superbots

  • @clipmania42
    @clipmania42 2 года назад

    I need to know how to calculate percentage of WINNING a hand based on number of players still in

    • @taf8903
      @taf8903 2 года назад

      There are a lot of other factors involved than just the number of players involved (eg. opponents range)

    • @clipmania42
      @clipmania42 2 года назад

      ​@@taf8903 I know but I'm trying to make a script and am trying to think of a formula

    • @demorogaming8835
      @demorogaming8835 Год назад +1

      @@clipmania42there is no single formula that will be accurate unless you know the definitive range and pattern tendency’s of your opponents.

    • @michaelgonzalez4819
      @michaelgonzalez4819 11 месяцев назад

      @@clipmania42so after a year did you find out your formula

  • @harryew
    @harryew 6 месяцев назад

    Have I misunderstood?
    With 8 outs and 47 cards left in the deck, that's 17% not 32%...?

    • @turel528
      @turel528 28 дней назад

      Percentage to river, man. River is 5th street. Your chances are basically doubled. You'd be right if it was to percentage to turn - the fourth street

  • @TripDadLife
    @TripDadLife 3 года назад +7

    This is fuckin brilliant

  • @janvdplaat3067
    @janvdplaat3067 3 года назад +4

    Calculating without explaining is difficult to follow. Calculated:
    9 outs on 47 (52 -3 -2) remaing cards on flop= 19% to turn
    missed? 9 outs on 46 remaining cards on turn = 19,5% to river
    19% + 19,5% = 38,5% 😁
    According to you it should be 35%. That could be right if you explained that this 3,5% reduction is because the villain hit the nuts. But how do we know he hits it?
    And calculating pot odds two steps ahead is dangerous. What if the villlain raises the turn, after we missed???
    😉.
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    • @michaelberkery7081
      @michaelberkery7081 3 года назад +3

      Hey what’s the calculation for the 4th poker flop at 4:06

    • @StorasSenis
      @StorasSenis 3 года назад +2

      Your calculations are incorrect. You cannot add probabilities like that.

    • @dr.greenthumb5092
      @dr.greenthumb5092 3 года назад

      These calculations are based on your own perspective on the game. You are unaware of what the villain will have, you will never know until the showdown. Therefore we use maths with numbers and probabilities that we can confirm are 100%. The OP could have many different hands with many different ranges, bet sizing is also a big thing to understand too, so that you can begin to gain a proper feel for what people are playing in their hand. Instead of thinking, maybe they have A,Ko or something, you could be trying to understand their play style, what ranges would the OP be betting for? What could the OP have tried to play, possibly failed, and now is trying to pull a bluff. All reads are possible at the tables, its just weather or not you can read their plays. Some people online play crazy, Live poker will always be profitable as long as you have your study down. Hope this helped, and happy hunting at the tables, GL and HF

    • @DJcyberslash
      @DJcyberslash 2 года назад

      @@michaelberkery7081 It's 13 hearts minus 3 = 10 outs × 4 = 40% - 2% = 38% chance of hitting the flush on the turn

  • @chefmikeankh6434
    @chefmikeankh6434 Год назад

    Online poker is a rip off. Cheaters

  • @onlyonearmy2521
    @onlyonearmy2521 Год назад

    Had to watch it multiple time to follow along. Maybe use a better presentation? 😂😂😂

  • @stanleyprayther7651
    @stanleyprayther7651 Год назад

    This doesn't explain a thing 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 next time explain it better