I was expecting wear and tear of the interior. You did show some movement and one can see the status of some of the interior but a detail tour will be great. In any case, thanks for sharing pretty useful.
What are you on THAT BATTERY will go bad and have to be replaced at some point.. even if you don't drive it batteries degrade over time no matter what you do. I don't care about your mileage see me in 20/30 years and then talk shit..
@@marcasswellbmd6922 Fucking what? 20-30 YEARS? Are you driving a 30 year old car? And how much gas and oil do you pour into it? Battery replacement isn't even a thing, but even after 700,000 miles replacement would still be a bargain vs a gas car.
Your battery is down 6.8%. Tesla, via a software update, added 15 miles to your car in 2019 to 325. 325 down to 303 is 6.8% degradation. Still an average degradation rate so not bad.
@@teslakiller6959 His misleading 2.2% degradation gets clicks and views. He won’t correct it. Even though he’s literally the only person with less than 5% degradation in a Tesla after 100k miles.
I wish the energy meter showed us how many kW were actually in the battery pack. I live in FL, RWD LR, mostly highway miles at 78-80mph, and can never get 240 actual miles comfortably.
I feel the same. I have a dual motor. almost 3 years old with 80.000 km. I live in Denmark and have had 2 trips to southend Europe. So smooth - and cheap. Also my best purchase : )
@@JM-kv2kn I know Jay Leno said he had had his for 7 years when he traded it for a new model and from what he could tell he only had 5% degradation. Said power output was the same as original just a few last miles.
I dont want this to come off wrong (for the other reviews I’ve seen) bu this is by far the best review I’ve watched due to the fact you answered many questions that other missed, you’re shear humility & honesty, & the fact that you made every topic relatable. The other reviews I’ve seen have sounded like rich snobs complaining about every little detail when comparing it to other luxury vehicles & the topics they touched on were mostly in regards to things of that nature, which obviously is no real help lol thank you for this, I am now more interested in making the switch than I was before & its all thanks to your quality review 👍🏽
I think the barrier to entry for so many people is the very high initial cost when purchasing and EV of any kind. Especially if you are a younger person like myself in their early 20s where any vehicle above 10-15k is extremely unreasonable.
Prices will come down, just try to drive as cheap as possible until then or even better avoid having a car if possible. We brought an old Hyundai when I was like 26/27 and a cheap apartment, 3 years later we had money for a Model 3. The Model 3 cost about half the price per mile as the Hyundai (not including devaluation). When used EV prices comes down owning a car will come way down in price.
@@Project2457official Yeah me working 10’s 7 days a week is parents money bro yeah you got me 🤣🤣 Yall will do anything but work hard for what you want. Dont project you being a bum onto me ✌🏻
Mine is almost 300000km, I got it in June 2019. It’s still very good ! Everyone is impressed when I tell them my mileage. It’s a Dual Motor Long Range. I’m French by the way.
@@dexterstanley4185 yes and now it’s 385000km. I’m changing it at the end of the year for a Volvo EX90. I also bought an EQV300 in October (I’m a private driver in the Champagne area).
Excellent review, Andy. I think this is one of your more important video, because it shows how the Tesla is as it "ages". New car reviews are nice, but most cars are nice when they are brand new. The real proof of a car's quality and reliability is when the car has some years and mileage on it. Good work, Andy.
As always Andy, you are the best when it comes to Tesla. I am too old to get into the Model 3 as it sits too low for my back getting in and out. I have been waiting for the 4680 batteries before ordering a model Y. The prices increased so I held off and now they are back down a little so I may bite the bullet and just order one now and get it in August, hopefully from GIGA Texas. Thanks for all you do. I hope Tesla recognizes you and gives you a Model S Plaid!
@@Ob1Love it was! It sounds like you’ve had a fulfilling life thus far. I think you owe yourself a model Y or whatever dream car fits your budget! I’m taking delivery of my model 3 next Tuesday and couldn’t be more excited. Have a good one!
@@aslye Andy this kind of advertising is so first level, and direct! Thanks for the tire tips! Our gas is 4.30 a gallon or more for regular gas. For transmission oil and filter changes are 300- 700$ every 40-50K. Don't forget timing belts for 600-1500 every 50-60K. Brakes 300-1200 every 60K plus depending on location and driving habits. Great review! Thanks!!!
Great review. Best car ever! I’m in it for the long haul also with my 2018 (red) LR RWD Model 3. Picked it up April 15, 2018. My last two ICE cars made it for 20 years before I donated one to PAWS Chicago, still looked new, and replaced it with the Model 3. As of yesterday it had a max range of 315 miles so no battery degradation at this point. That said I only have 39,825 miles on it. Enjoy the ride and keep up the great videos! ❤️ Side note; I’m in the FSD beta program. One of the numerous reasons I got this car was I thought it would be smoothly driving me around the heart of the big city (Chicago) by now. I drove for the rich & famous for 36 years and knew I’d eventually need to be driven around. At age 67 it doesn’t look like I’ll live to experience that… My FSD beta experiences in the big city are anything but stellar. Who knows maybe a big tech jump will happen.
Never thought i would see a 100k review for at least for a few years. I don't own a Tesla but want one in the near future so this answers a lot of questions about used car ownership
I was into tesla when the model s was revealed. I watched live as they revealed the model 3 prototype and looked forward to the time they were common. Now I'm enjoying that time. One day I'll own one I don't doubt. Pick up a used one for 10k
I bought a 2018 Model 3 LR AWD in early 2019. My real-world range on a full charge has been more like 265 miles. During winter, that is more like 210. Like the person in the video though, I've not seen any appreciable degradation from charge/discharge cycles. I've seen some other issues like my rear right tail light fogging up occasionally, something even my 28 year old Toyota doesn't do despite Tesla claiming that is normal. There is speaker grille in the front left that squeaks during driving. The control arms are starting to groan. There were multiple flaws in the paint such as debris trapped under it on the driver door and the rear right quarter panel not having had enough paint applied to it. They managed to dent the chrome trim above the driver door before delivery. The rear right passenger door is misaligned. The phone key feature is unreliable and will eventually leave you stranded if you don't keep a backup key card on you. The driver side window doesn't auto-up correctly. It goes up a couple inches and then back down, a process which repeats a variable number of times until eventually it goes up as expected. It's a misconception that these cars are heavy compared to gas cars, but the high torque does lead to quicker wear. My first set of tires wore out at about 25K miles, and from what I gather that is ballpark for what a lot of people tend to get. Those original tires had a tread wear life of 500 iirc. Service isn't that convenient if you don't live somewhere with a service center, and that is a problem since these things seem to almost universally have issues. The build quality in general is just not great and is more like what I'd expect from a $25K econobox than a $50K luxury sedan. I still like the car, but it makes me worry for the long term.
My dad does work with Tesla, his company sells them machines that produce some of their parts. . He says his biggest complaint is the build quality, materials used. These things should get better with time and experience, supplier relations, leverage, etc. The cost of ownership explained here almost negates the initial price difference in 4 years. If it goes a decade at the same rate, it's on par or better than the best automobiles ever built.
Luxury brands are almost never reliable. It’s usually the opposite. A $20k Toyota Corolla has legendary reliability but almost every single $50k+ car has horrible reliability. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. all have abysmal reliability and always have (despite German engineering supposedly being superior to every other manufacturer).
Yep, the Supercharger network was what convinced me to buy a new Model S way back in March, 2014. I waited until over a year AFTER Elon announced his nationwide Supercharger network to make sure he was serious. When it became clear he WAS serious, I jumped in wholeheartedly. And I’m so glad I did. I’m currently driving a 2016 Model S P100DL. I bought it because my 2014 Model S P85 didn’t have dual-motor AWD (I live in snowy Michigan); and also because it was just before 2017 after which Elon had announced Tesla was ending free unlimited Supercharging for its cars. So, I got in just under that deadline. Ever since, wherever I drive in the US and Canada, I never have to pay for Supercharging. And the car still runs perfectly fine after 5 years and only 53,000 miles. It doesn’t get any better than that! My next car will definitely be another Tesla!
@@domk2993 Yes, but a couple big if’s: 1) The original car purchaser bought access to the Supercharger network when the car was first purchased. Access to the Tesla Supercharger was a $2,000 option for new Tesla S & X car purchases in the early 2012-2014 model years. Most bought it, but a few car buyers didn’t! And… 2) You buy your pre-2017 Model S or X from a someone other than Tesla. I think you should get the car with continued access to free unlimited Supercharging. For example, if I traded in my 2016 Model S in to Tesla, they may not pass on the free unlimited Supercharging benefit to the subsequent purchaser. The best thing to do is contact Tesla before you buy a Model S or X from a private seller and ask if the VIN # has and still qualifies for free, unlimited Supercharging - and get that answer in writing from Tesla.
I’ve had my LR over 40,000 miles with very few issues that were minor. The joy of driving the car far outweighs the issues. Got FSD when it was cheaper and very much enjoy being part of the future as a tester.
And here I am with a 2021 M3 with 60,000 miles already in 10 months. The car is dual motor, and my battery is still reading 324 miles with a full charge. I charge up to about 88% to 90% everyday but will generally top it off right before I leave out, and I use the 48amp Tesla home charger. I use this car to drive anywhere from 150 to 400 miles a day, sometimes more. But average out to around 6k miles a month give or take. In the Winter at 10 to 20 degrees fahrenheit, I average about 210 to 220 miles of realistic mileage on a full charge, but last spring summer and fall, I had a few full charges actually got me more than 350 miles of range. ( That was at cruising speeds of around 70mph and normal driving habits) I removed the 19s for a set of artisa 18s and taller tires, roads where I live are terrible, and my 19s have been bent and repaired. Since going to the 18s, my efficiency has gone up, and ride quality went wayyy up, and better yet haven't bent a wheel!! So to anybody out there that don't think a electric car "has enough range" for what they do, take it from me, you should consider one because I do almost 6x the amount of driving to the average person. I'm paying .07 cents per kw on super off peak hours, so it costs me anywhere from 4 to 5 bucks for a full charge, and when you work out the math, it's like 140 to 200 extra to my electric bill each month. Hope this comment helps anyone!
Finally some real numbers. It is one thing to say your max range is that, because you never drop to 0% if you want to preserve your battery. I knew you'd have to charge only to 85% but you made a good point. You could top up to 100% just before you are heading out because - I think - staying at 100% hurts the battery only if it stays like that a long time. So driving right away would minimize the issue. So you could schedule it. Charge it to 85%, and 30min before heading out top up to 100%. Brilliant
Yup and I'm also doing a full battery cycle too. Meaning doing that I'm nearly full charging it, but then I'll nearly drain the battery during my drive on that same day, versus letting the car sit there for a day or 2 at 85% then 2 days later it's at 50% then 2 more days it's nearly dead, needing a full charge. I put the car through full battery cycles daily, which is what those batteries were designed for, deep cycles.
Watching in 2024, also live in Louisville. Hey, that looks like lower Brownsboro Rd. And hey, thats Zorn Ave! Then I read the description and see you're in Lou as well. Thanks for the update!
Very good video Andy. Probably one of the clearest and most concise ownership videos I have seen without it being sidetracked with non-important info. I must say this has changed my mind about Tesla ownership and I much appreciate your sharing of your experience over the years
2021 Model 3 owner here....great review and very on point. My one and only complaint is the phantom braking, which makes Autopilot mostly unusable on the two lane roads we drive (especially in low light conditions). I sure hope this gets resolved, or at least improved, through software updates. Glad to see how well your M3 has held up after 100k miles - thank you for sharing!!
@@fatal510 No it is not. He is calculating wrong. His full rated range based on a specific constant is 325 miles. His odd 300 miles (because the gauge in the app is not accurate) gives him about 92% from the initial range. You can watch my channel to understand the math behind this...
Nicely done, Andy. Informative and comprehensive, minus all the hyperbole and breathless enthusiasm. Teslas are great, and don’t need to be overhyped - the facts, as you brilliantly lay out, are compelling on their own. I’m at nearly one year of ownership, and 10,640 miles (love that app!), so I’ve got a ways to go yet to 100,000 miles. But I too am looking forward to many miles of EV ownership! Keep up the great work!
By far the best and most honest review. Got to the point, stayed on track with a car review and left politics and left nitpick nonsense out of it. I’m nearly sold on my first EV.
Great review. I’ve been driving my son in laws model S (all the extras), and have loved it, but felt that there were a few things that weren’t up to par for (in terms of price) a premium vehicle. You mentioned them in your review, I.e. road noise, sloppy Ill conceived manufacturing etc. but, with all that, I love it. I love driving it , looking at it and being in it.
Your range current range is amazing. My 2020 M3P was 310 now down to 275 miles estimated. But in the sub 10°C I'm lucky to reach 200 miles. Oh, and only 18,000 miles covered in 2 years.
100% agree that highway road noise is my biggest complaint with my 2018. Also, I have FSD Beta and it’s not worth $12k in its current implementation, fingers crossed for the future.
I look at FSD as an investment. Yes its expensive but with most other manufacturers you will need to buy a whole new car for an updated system. Your model 3 will be state of the art of probably the next 10 years. Maybe longer
I commute 90 miles round trip every single day plus personal driving and got a 2023 Model 3 long range and it has been a game changer since i also work for an electric company that has chargers at my office not superchargers but just like normal charge point chargers and its 100% free for employees i save 200+ a month on gas compared to my subaru and my commute is 99% 2 lane highway in a rural area and normal auto pilot works amazing.
Thank you Andy! It’s good to hear from you who has owned the car for four years now. I got mine LR March last year. I also enjoy it very much and will not go back to gas car. I don’t have a house but live in an apartment. So, I have to rely on superchargers. Even this is not an issue for me. Thanks for continue to make video like this to share your experience. I did not buy FSD. I also drive a lot. About 70-135miles a day.
That was an awesome analysis of your 4 years with the model 3. Thank you so much for the break down and honest concise information. If anybody is sitting on the fence about purchasing a Tesla, they shouldn't be now!
@Yeah I’m sure i mean yeah, to charge an Ev its cheap now but i think that price will triple if more and more would buy Ev cars eventually, so if you would look gas price vs energy price right now its 100% worth it, also i would go for tesla for this reason, charging Ev car from where i am is around 40% cheaper than a ICE car
Perfect breakdown! It was well-organized, informative, and interesting, without any annoying frills. I never thought I'd be convinced it's smarter purchase financially than a $20k gas car but you brought all the facts.
The department of energy has the real stats on the cost difference between the 2. for the initial cost difference you would have to drive the EV nearly 400,000 miles before saving money. i.e. my ice gets 31mpg average = average cost per mile at $5.00 = $.16 a mile. EV is averaging $.08-.13 a mile per the Department of energy. Not worth it at all considering the power grid of every city and suburb in the country would need ~160% more electric energy bandwidth to charge them all. This would raise your taxes by a considerable amount and also raise everyone electric bill by more than 2x.
@@LucidVisionMane That's your choice of course but they are out there. In the video the guy is saving around $2500 a year in fuel costs but he does a lot of mileage. You're not going to get anywhere close to that unless you do the mileage and if you don't do a lot of mileage you're not likely to be saving anything. And none of this takes into account the potential cost of new batteries. I don't even know if he's factored in the higher buying cost compared to an ice car and the higher cost of tyres and insurance. I know there are claims of very high mileages but if they do fail - and some will - the replacement cost probably wouldn't be worth it. For an older ICE car you can get reconditioned replacement engines quite cheaply.
Thanks Andy! I watched a lot of your videos before I purchased my first Model 3 in March of 2021. So far I love it and don't regret my purchase at all.
@@nxp22 I drive a 2017 bolt ev it driving good . Basic car and gets the job done. Currently at 52500 miles on it. And they can be bought for anywhere in between from 18k to 24k out the door. And 230 miles of range and 55kw on electrify America chargers.
@@jakedank2746 Well, Jake, let's just say that if we ARE mind children, we are smart enough to know a good thing when we find it. Right now, my 'gas mileage' is infinity. And, since I charge my Tesla with solar power, my co$t per mile is pennies for the power. What are you paying at the pump?
@@nxp22 $52,000 now. I got my Model 3 LR in December just in time before the price hike yesterday. Still spent $56,000 after taxes and stuff. Base price was $48 I think
I am completely comfortable driving a 1940 John Deere hand clutch, a real hands on mechanical do it yourself type. My second day of owning a '22 model 3, I have adapted to it and love it.
That’s phenomenal! 2.2% deterioration after 100,000 miles. On average, I’d say my Nissan leaf will deteriorate 2.5% every year, however I suppose that’s relative to the battery. You must be very please with your car.
Hi, Andy! I'm in the same boat as you. 5/2018 M3 LR RWD, 106,000 miles, 304-ish miles rated range at 100% in the app. To be fair, though, we did get a 5% range boost as reported by Teslarati on 2/18/2019 to get us nominally up to 325 miles on a fresh battery by reducing the buffer size. So, It's physically closer to 7%, but 2% relative to what we bought. Couldn't be happier. And, yes, my 2013 24kWh Nissan Leaf is 9 years old with 99,800 miles and down to 78% SOH, so active cooling does make a big difference.
Andy, you nailed every single points from the best to the worse of the early adopters model 3. Great 👍 Job with video ! We purchased the exact same vehicle & colour back in 2018 in Canada and now has over 72,000km without any issues and counting, we still love the vehicle and would not give up for anything.
@@jlb7707 I am in southwestern Ontario which is about 125 miles from Detroit Michigan, I never had any issues in winter with a good set of winter tires,
I rented a model 3 to go to south Ga. It was the best ride have ever experienced. Drove almost 450 miles and felt like I had just driven around the corner. Cost for my charges ….$11.87. I will only buy a Tesla even though Kia,Volkswagen, GM, have great electric cars but the charging network is unmatched.
You covered the 100,000 miles on point. When people ask me questions or start nagging, I’ll be telling them to watch this video. I also hate the update, removing the seat warmer buttons and defroster, feels dumb having to click here and there for pop up menus, also not making it easy to switch between FM radio and my phone.
Winter kills the battery and these are not made for Cold Canadian winters. At -20C the power is 50% less if not in a heated garage. The batteries are Not Recycled. Green Dream ?
I purchased a model s 2 yrs ago for my wife and for the 1st yr she struggled with the range with in real world is a little over 300 miles. Today she loves it because she now realizes all of the places we travel are less than 300 miles from home and on the few trips over 100miles we stay overnight and charge at the location for free. To date we have only paid for home charging because friends relatives and hotels have always allowed free charging. Tesla app estimates that we save close to $250 per month by not using gas which is about $3k a yr plus to date we don't have any out of pocket maintenance expenses.
Love the concept of electric cars but like you said, fiscal savings is only 10k every 4 years over a traditional car. I bought a motorcycle and was net positive on the purchase price from fuel savings after only 3 years. It's a good start but EV's still have a ways to go.
@@Jaydoublyou The other big problem is that after 100k miles the battery warranty expires; You could get a faulty cell and that could be potentially 5-15k to fix. Then there are wearable suspension components; ball joints, bushings, replacing shocks, etc, This stuff would need to get replaced eventually. This video doesn't touch on any maintenance like this.
Thanks for this long-term owner's update. Our 2020 LR AWD with the Performance Boost UpgradeY is 18 months old with just 15K mils and it's been flawless. I didn't buy it to SAVE any money I just loved how they drive (my last vehicle was a 2014 Stingray). But any savings for me is just a bonus which I can confirm is REAL and CONSIDERABLE over any ICE vehicle in its category. My plan was to keep our Y for 3 years and by then Tesla would have made enough improvements to make that the sweet spot to trade UP. That's still my plan, I want a new Y from Austin with the 4680 batteries and the latest features/upgrades. I'll be 71 years old by then and that might be the Tesla we keep for a longer period of time as their manufacturing capability should be greatly improved, plus am hoping for some new paint/interior color options. Regarding the cost of FSD, I agree purchasing it OUTRIGHT is not a wise financial decision now that you can "RENT" it on a monthly basis for $200. We take 4 to 5 long road trips a year where we might try it out, but for us, basic AP works just fine. Cheers from southern Illinois.
Yesterday I got back from a road trip vacation to Michigan from my home of St Louis, Missouri. I went from STL all the way up to the top of Michigan in Mackinaw Island, and I spent only $218 for supercharging. I have a standard range model 3, so I really felt those extra 2-3 chargers I had to use since my range is only 224 miles on full. I second what Andy says about getting the most range you can, however rest assured, you can still easily make these trips, even in a standard range model 3.
Appreciate you breaking it down Andy! You made a very valid point. Pre pandemic (early 2020), I was going to buy a Tesla Model 3 but instead I went with the 2017 Mercedes E300 due to thinking I might run out of a charge and Not being able to just pull up to a gas station. Back in 2020 there were some “super chargers” but not how there is today. My Mercedes’ interior is ridiculously nice and luxurious, but the Tesla model 3’s interior is simple, but still very nice. I call it the Apple iPhone of cars. If I could go back to 2020, I would’ve gotten the Model 3. The maintenance on my E300 is not cheap. Oil changes (full synthetic) are anywhere from $130-$150 depending on where you go, which hold for 5,000 miles. The service A is around $800, while the service B is $2,300. They check all your fluids, top them off, change the spark plugs, and that’s pretty much it. And that labor is what hikes that price up. Also, I’ve had to change my tires multiple times. The E300 does not come with a spare, but it has Pirelli run flats which are costly. They run about $350-$375 per tire. Only good part about them is if you get a nail or the tire goes flat and loses all tire pressure at 0, you can still drive on it for about 50-100 miles no faster than 55mph. My air vent makes a minor clicking sound that I can hear because I drive my car alot, but it’s not noticeable to someone who’s not paying attention to it. I brought it in to Mercedes’ and they for one charged me $215.00 just to “run a diagnostic” on it, and for two said in order for them to fix the minor issue they have to replace the entire air vent panel - they told me $3,000. It’s not effecting the air or anything, you just hear a small click on full blast so I left it as is. My point is, the maintenance is a lot. The Tesla Model 3 doesn’t have maintenance. Thanks for the video!
Hi Dom-I have the exact same Mercedes you do. Maintenance fees are insane. I’m thinking of switching to regular tires because run flats are so expensive. I did get a flat tire and it was very uncomfortable and loud driving on these tires. I only drove 2 miles but very slowly and on the shoulder of the road. I Live in a condo so cannot charge at home. If I could I would definitely trade Mercedes for the model 3.
@@lorihamilton9821 I agree. Run flats come in handy but too expensive. I drove about 25 miles on the run flat at 50mph on the freeway 1st lane. Mercedes is expensive to maintain. That also played a part in why I didn’t get the Model 3 back in 2020 was because my complex doesn’t have a charging station
I absolutely loved my 3 and it led me to the new S. Build was mediocre but the pros outweighed the cons by far. So comfortable, fun to drive, easy on long trips, economical, reliable, the list goes on. Could have kept it for much much longer if I had to.
So in conclusion nothing special most car a fun to drive reliable and confortable But the built quality is shit the part are super expensive and never in stock super long wait time for an appointment to the dealer and you can't do any work on the car easily without Elon making a tantrums about it
@@legros731 most cars are nowhere near as fun to drive as an EV (that’s right, most any EV. Chevy Bolt is more fun than ‘73 Trans Am). Service appointments are maybe a week out, comparable to other mechanics. In a pinch, I’ve driven to the service center for an immediate emergency fix.
@@brendykes6599 you compare a 73 trans am to an ev what a moron why don't you compare them to a Ford model T Personally a like my car of the 3 pedal variety A will take my s2000 before any ev it's small lightweight and convertible with no stupid driving aid this is a fun car that you can push to is limit in the corner Straight line acceleration is fun for the first week but after you get accustomed to it it's no more fun you will want more but guest what you can't modify it to make it faster Ice car can easily be modified to make them faster or better handling I don't see tesla or any other ev manufacturers selling better motor/battery/bms and where do you use 1000hp (tesla plaid)it way more fun to drive a slow car fast that a fast car slow If they where so fun to drive can you tell my why people's waste 10 000$ on autopilot for the car to drive itself lol So mazda(miata,rx7,rx8)/honda(civic,integra,s2000,nsx)/wv(golf r32)/porche/bmw all model but particularly the m model/Nissan(s13,s14,s15,300zx,skyline,350z,370z,400z) and Toyota (brz/86,supra) are not fun to drive a chevy bolt is surely way more fun lol😅😂🤣 And the best part of normal car is tinkering with them to make them better to your liking and unique and guest what no need for a appointment a can do all the repair myself with easy to get part Want something fun the 2 step on my turbo civic is the definition of fun spit 2 foot flame and sound like a shotgun is stupid fast and can do burnout in 4 gear on the highway it's at 600hp but can raise the boost for 900hp if a want but it's useless on the street unless you want to burn the tire at 900hp a can destroy a tesla plaid super easily in a roll race 1000hp and 5000lbs vs 900hp and 2500lbs
Excellent video. All three main aspects of owning a Tesla are presented here, no bias. I am glad I bought a Tesla 50 ... days ago. I really enjoy it with its autopilot, Traffic Awareness and Auto Steer. I only have near 300 miles on it total. Still learning on how to maximize its range. City driving at speed below 45 miles/hour seem to consume less battery energy than highway driving. the trip's reports are great to monitor this aspect. Blown tire on long trip when I am in no where location is a concern, so I bought a spare tire kit (weighting 50 lbs) to bring on long trip JUST IN CASE. That gives me peace of mind.
From my understanding city will always be better than highway. Because highway driving, your regenerative braking won’t be used as much. You’ll be at a constant speed = using more power
After 50k+ miles in my model 3, the only problem I had was a suspension arm failed that was covered under warranty, and some creaking noises from the steering column. My battery has not held up as well as Andy's, I have about 296mi range. I suspect the degradation started getting worse after I no longer had the ability to charge it every day. I changed my tires at about 45k miles, which is much longer than I should have waited. The road noise is a thing at highway speeds, but I also hear motor whine between 20 and 30mph. Maybe that's only on AWD cars with a front motor. I can usually get 225mi on a 100% charge at highway speeds by which I mean 80mph or so. I don't find the computer that accurate when it comes to stop times and such. I frequently drive faster than it says I should and still reach my destination with charge to spare. That might be due to the navigation system not having elevation data. The worst range I ever had was driving highway speeds in Chicago in 15f weather. I think I managed barely 160mi of range that way on a full charge. I have a 2018 I bought before autopilot became standard, and I don't miss it. I would not have bought a $50k+ car if I did not like driving. All in all, its an excellent car.
Why doesn’t Tesla advertise their running changes to their cars? Sounds to me that the Model Y for instance has undergone many under the skin changes that are not visible but make a huge difference in driving dynamics and range! Tesla is not a stationary target like many people think they are. They might only offer a handful of car/crossover models but they sure do change and improve them over the years!
Thank you. Great report that I listened to over my lunch break. I bought a Y in September 2020. I’ve owned easily 30 cars. This one’s the best, for all the reasons you mentioned. But, my insurance is very expensive mostly because when first owning her, I was driving to the ramp in my parking garage and hit the left rear door as I turned too tight and the repair was super expensive and then my insurance increased dramatically. This was my first accident in 30 years. So, repair of the body is more expensive than I’ve been told comparable cars cost. And they recommend that you go to certified body shops.
My 2020 M3 had a similar situation. The big problem with Tesla's is repair time. It took 2+ months to repair a damaged rear fender. This is my only car and $1200 was spent on a rental vehicle (Insurance covers 30 days). From what I've read, 2 months is normal repair time on Tesla's. Also be warned, my M3 which is always parked in a garage, was left out in weather, under a tree, and with birds in that tree. Probably another $200+ to have it polished and I'm sure my insurance will go up.
I am a new driver and I have a 24-year-old car. There was water flooding the engine and I paid 900€ after 4 months of owning the thing! Luckily it doesn't appear to have any other mechanical issues, it has 283.500km on its back after all. I plan to keep it for 3-4 years and get something better and newer when I start making my own money.
Nice review. I think owners find they want to drive everywhere after purchasing the car, just so much fun! Autopilot plus amazing supercharger network makes me a habitual road tripper.. I have a 2021 Model 3, already several improvements and looking forward to 100K+ miles driving. Also, an owner of a Model S since 2014 - well over 100K miles and still going strong. Thanks for the content.
Great stuff, Andy? I think you covered most of the questions future owners of Tesla vehicles have on their minds. 1) Was it a good purchase for your use case vs lesser initial cost ICE vehicles 2) Is it reliable over long term/high mileage - especially post Tesla warranty and 3) Is it still an exciting daily driver 4 years in. I’m waiting for a LR Model Y, due for receipt sometime later this fall and I’m still shopping the options out there - including the Ionia 5 and EV6. But I keep coming back to the Model Y as providing the most value for dollar. Sure, it’s very expensive - all of these cars are - and that’s the biggest barrier for most shoppers. But if you can afford it, it sure looks like the 3 and Y are the route to go. Thx for your continued efforts in keeping us in the know about your Tesla ownership journey!
My Subaru will last me 30 years with basic maintenance and I can switch to alcohol as a cleaner fuel. My model 3 DM had issues from the gate.... Tesla has too many factory and service problems for me to take EVs from them seriously.
Nice review Andy, I don't think your battery longevity is abnormal. I put around 90K miles on a Chevy Bolt EV in 2 years, and degradation was 7% at 146K miles when I completed the GM buyback. My experience with tires and cost of ownership are similar to yours. I don't think everyone should be pushed to the biggest battery possible - I got a 40 kWh Nissan LEAF after the buyback, I live in Minnesota where it's cold 5 months, do rideshare, and it's perfectly fine. For me saving $20K buying within my budget was more important than a big battery for the reason you state - at home charging!
I’m really happy that you’ve had a positive experience so far. I have a 2021 Model Y, although in a year I only put on 8,000 miles. Holy smokes you drive a lot! I watched your previous videos so I’ve been caring for my battery in the same way you’ve cared for yours (charging at home, taking it easy on the HVAC, and not charging past 80% for almost 99% of the current life of my car. Here’s to 200,000 miles to you! And as for me, here’s to maybe cracking 50,000 miles one day 😂😂
Fantastic review! This has swayed me to buy a Model 3. I am currently a Jeep Wrangler owner and, given my Wrangler is worth about the same as a newer Model 3, it is clear to me - just from financial standpoint - a Model 3 would save me so much in gas, oil, and maintenance, I have only owned a hybrid (Prius) and I think the Tesla gives you even more value than a Prius but so much more in terms of performance. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. So may Tesla bashers out there giving out misinformation. It was nice to hear from a long-term owner. Thanks again!
Your video caught my attention for a reason. It concerned me so much that the vehicle would be so expensive. The maintenance and being stuck on the side of the road was definitely a concern, but you did a great job of breaking down the car. You have inspired me to purchase this car for my birthday in September, thanks to this video.
This basically proves the long term reliability and cost advantages. When you consider the $12k in gas savings over 100k miles, and the $7500 tax credit, it all makes sense.
Then it doesn’t make as much sense when a similar spec petrol car would only cost 30k in the first place and not start dropping to bits in only 4 years
@@georgeoliver8300 Dropping to bits? And what similar spec car is $30k? Keep in mind you can get a model 3 S performance for $50K that runs 3 sec 0-60 and has an incredible safety rating, not to mention the Tesla curb appearl. There isn't a similarly speced $30K car.
Fantastic breakdown. Saving 25k over the life of the vehicle makes the actual cost of the car around 25K as well. What a steal! there are only a handful of cars in the world less expensive than that new.
Don't think that would work for me. A model 3 costs around $70,000. I spend $35 per week on fuel. Even assuming electricity is free and zero maintenance, a model 3 would be more expensive over the long term than my current car because of the up front costs, financing and insurances wouldn't be offset by the small weekly fuel savings. Purchase price need to drop by 50% to get me intetested.
@@toby9999 The common math works out that if you drive 15K a year, you basically break even, and only if you drive more than that do you see significant savings. The problem is the people who drive 5-8K a year. They won't ever see a benefit over just getting a nice Civic Hatchback or similar. $25K and $3K a year at most - you'll be 10K under the base MSRP after a decade. Add in insurance, financing, 7-10% registration fees and taxes, and so on and it's closer to 20K less simply because a $25K car is so much less money tied up than a $55K car. Which also is a much smaller payment, netting you better cash-flow. I am personally a huge EV fan, but economically I can see why they still are a luxury item and Honda and Toyota still sell every gasoline powered car that they make.
1st time viewer and 1st time I've seen a video on a "old" Tesla. You're probably the first to make me actually feel more comfortable with the idea of owning an EV. I don't drive much now so may not be worth it but you gave me more to think about especially the repair costs.
I leased a Tesla for a couple years, and now looking to buy one. Those two years completely converted me and I simply cannot go back to any other car, it's just a different animal. Held up so well, and really felt bad letting it go. Try the lease option if you're willing, that way you spend much less and see whether you would enjoy the car over a longer term.
@@Ultimateum23 Never leased before but something to think about. Probably would purchase if I really do convert. Now got to think about adding PV panels to the house.
I have looked everywhere and I can not find anyone that have really considered ALL costs of ownership, including depreciation, tires, etc. While it MAY be true that you are saving $ on gasoline and engine oil changes, those are the smallest costs of a car ownership. My son have a Mazda 3 with 190K miles and his girlfriend have a Mazda 6 with 250K miles, both cars still do 30mpg in city and ~45mpg on highway and the engines do not leak or burn oil but in comparison the tires last 60K miles and because they cost less than $30K when new and are Japanese, the depreciation (both are more than 10 years old now) is really low. A model 3 is around the same size but around here we have 2 year old Model 3s being sold for ~$25K.... That is a heck of a depreciation cost ($12K/year) that no savings in fuel and or regular maintenance can compensate for....
I have been researching this and what I've found is that if you have the charge port at home and you rely on that to charge for a majority of your charges, this will save you tons BUT i do not have the option for this and I would heavily rely on superchargers for my almost 90 mile commute daily. My situation would not be very good to invest in an electric vehicle
that's why you always buy second hand. Value drop in 3-4years is massive, but battery degradation just minor. Here in China new tesla3 cost 30k usd, 4 years old cost 15k usd.
Totally agree, biggest issue for me too is the phantom breaking and in my opinion it happens quite often. No fun when cruising on the highway at 130kph (80mph) and someone is behind you... Have you had many issues with your car? I only have about 22.000 km (14.000 miles) on it and already had two sensors for the airbags malfunctioning, had one of my driver door henges replaced, have enough consensation in my rear light to keep a goldfish in it, my charging port won't open manually and my automatic trunk only functions half the time... I still love the car, but I'm a bit worried about all the 'small' issues I'm experiencing.
Better get any problems resolved while the car is still under warranty. Anytime a traditional automaker release a new generation of the same model, reliability goes down as they work out the kinks. Tesla built a brand new car from the ground up, so I fully expect that there would be plenty of small issues. So far there aren't any complaints about the drive train, and sounds like they over-engineered it for durability, which is appreciated.
I have a lower income because I’m 21 working retail and school ect but with my gas car that gets under good circumstances 17 city and 22 highway along with insurance being the same amount or more then a model 3 it’s seeming like a solid option I drive 20k+ a year and spend probably $500 per year on maintenance pluse tires ect when that’s needed. I spend $7,000 a year give or take on insurance gas and maintenance. Financing a Tesla plus insurance I’d be at $8000 a year roughly
At the price point of $40,000 I expect a lot more from production quality. I’m interested to see how the market will shift once Toyota and Honda get into the game. Great video nonetheless a lot better than I expected
Toyota is wasting time and money on Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. They won't be in the game for another five years minimum. Honda is making the same mistake. I wouldn't expect Japanese imports to be good competitors in the EV market until 2030.
@@randomman057 Researching alternatives is never a waste of time, Hydrogen is one of the most abundant elements on Earth. Charging EVs consumes fossil fuels while pumping Hydorgen doesn't.
I appreciate you touching on Autopilot vs FSD. My work commute is about 300mi/week and a big factor in considering a Model 3 for me is whether autopilot would be sufficient for for those long stretches of interstate. Sounds like it! Great review 👍🏾
I tend to describe it as AP handles the boring parts of driving pretty well. It's not something I'm willing to take my attention away from for more than a few seconds at a time but it's nice to have it keep the car in the lane and keep with the flow of traffic. I have an 80 mile commute each way (so only drive it once a week) and it's great to have. I don't think I'd actually gain anything from FSD.
Could you please el\aHborate on what yogñu mean by the rnonad noise is barely an issue for your 2021 Model 3. Do you think it’s because Tesla has added more sound deadening material? Has there been any design changes that you know about that would have helped to alleviate the noise issues ? Has Tesla addressed their paint, body gaps and other quality issues that have plagued the brand for some time now? I’m extremely impressed with the battery pack and I don’t think you got lucky with a great battery pack. I believe that they are all designed to go about 1Million miles before serious reduction in performance becomes an issue. This is a tremendous relief for anyone who is new to the Ecar game. Your Model 3 appears to have much life still in the battery pack as well as the car itself. Any additional thoughts on interior quality? Like the durability of the fabrics and plastics? Isn’t it true that Tesla is working on getting the recycling of the LI battery packs to be a closed loop system, meaning that they want to be able to recycle the entire pack almost to the point of 100%. That would be truly incredible and certainly end the discussion about how Electric Cars still pollute the earth just in a different way. Overall, I think this was a really well thought out review of a Tesla after some real world driving done to it and real world wear and tear done to the paint, seats, suspension…..Everything seemed to hold up well. I am very interested in more long term reviews of all of the Tesla models to see what they are like after say 150K Miles or 200K miles of real world use. What are the weak points of areas that need to still be addressed? Again, well done review!
I agree. You should upgrade just for the quietness of 2021 model 3. It has dual pane glass in front and makes huge difference, thus lead me to purchase that model year. Previous to 2021, model 3's just did not meet my expectations.
great recap of your 100k miles experience Andy. The battery degradation was particularly interesting as this is the first question I’m asked when someone inquires about my 2022 Y. Not sure why so many people are nervous about this. There are tons of people who have a lot of miles on their EVs with similar results as yours. My wife and I plan on driving our Y for at least 10 years and hope to get the same service as you have experienced. Thanks again! PS: I am one of the few people who was in the first wave of Ford F-150 Lightning reservation holders who got to convert to an order. Should get it around May (hopefully!). Will be interesting to see how it does as well! 👍🏼
Congrats on the F150 lightning purchase, very intriguing EV and will be interested to see how it performs and holds up over time. I'm a tesla owner and love the car even with the shortcomings but it doesn't stop me from appreciating other EVS,
Excellent Review - and to think its one of the first off the production line and you had an overall positive experience from it. You have totally convince me to buy a Tesla over any other EV, hands down
Really excellent vid Andy! I've been fixing my own cars for over 25 years. I'm tired of it. Tired of the waste it generates, time it consumes, and the cost. So far my '20 MYP (22K mi) has required zero service other than replacing the carbon trim that was slowly becoming detached and the rear hatch had to be realigned (would not longer automatically open/close). Both extremely minor fixes, covered by warranty. I live in northern Vermont, it gets very cold here, January was pretty cold this year. Lots of low single digits and some below zero. The car has always performed well. We use it to go skiing which is about 100 miles round trip. We have two other ICE vehicles that we are going to replace, they very rarely get used since the MYP arrived. Was hoping CT would start prod EOY, but guess that's not gonna happen. Might have to sell my truck and buy another MY in the meantime. Your review was really comprehensive...nice job!!
Lol any new car will be trouble free for most of is life unless you buy the first year of a new model or get a lemon which can happen to any car manufacturer
@@IanSfirebirdflame Advertised was 310mi I think. Highway range I'd say is 200mi in the very cold, there's also decent elevation change where I live. Less than highway speeds you'll get more range. I'm not trying to set records so my highway speed is between 75 - 80. Supercharger network has been awesome. I don't do what the car tells me to as far as charging. I have my own strategy that I prefer. I arrive super low, my best was 1% SOC, but typical is 5%, winter time I'm more conservative, aim for 10% (I'm talking road trip charging). Get awesome charging performance. Less waiting, more driving. I installed a 240V 50A outlet at my in-laws who live 300 miles away. We make one stop for 15 minutes to super charge and really don't even need that long. Plug in when I get to their place. It's great! Anyway, happy to share my experience if you have any other questions.
@@johnleeuw3022 Thank you so much for that info! A family member of mine is possibly considering a M3, and cold weather performance was the biggest drawback.
Andy, loved the snapshot of you / your car and the 100K. It really caught my eye. Your coverage of this topic was great as to how solidly Teslas are built. 👍👍👍
Hey! Great video! I was already feeling great about my recent model Y purchase. This really help me put it in perspective as I start making payments. Keep doing what you're doing! I really enjoy the content.
Awesome video Andy! Thanks for sharing all that experience. I am on my 2nd Model 3 in the last two years, was lucky to exchange it for 0 cost to a now 21 model. But I love driving it and friends have had the same experience as you had. Sadly, here in Germany, we are really really lucky if we can charge below 25 Euro cents...on the road it is more like 50, at superchargers as well. So the actual driving cost here comes close to a gas car. And... With all the energy price hikes here... We will see what 22 brings. Hugs to Kentucky! Been there, love it 🤗
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You Should get the 2022 base Model 3 and trade your in to get it!
I was expecting wear and tear of the interior. You did show some movement and one can see the status of some of the interior but a detail tour will be great. In any case, thanks for sharing pretty useful.
What are you on THAT BATTERY will go bad and have to be replaced at some point.. even if you don't drive it batteries degrade over time no matter what you do. I don't care about your mileage see me in 20/30 years and then talk shit..
Andy.
Please check out my reply to mullman. I’d like to know your thoughts on including depreciation in your number.
@@marcasswellbmd6922 Fucking what? 20-30 YEARS? Are you driving a 30 year old car? And how much gas and oil do you pour into it? Battery replacement isn't even a thing, but even after 700,000 miles replacement would still be a bargain vs a gas car.
Your battery is down 6.8%. Tesla, via a software update, added 15 miles to your car in 2019 to 325. 325 down to 303 is 6.8% degradation. Still an average degradation rate so not bad.
Exactly this. This needs to be upvoted more.
@@teslakiller6959 His misleading 2.2% degradation gets clicks and views. He won’t correct it. Even though he’s literally the only person with less than 5% degradation in a Tesla after 100k miles.
@@ampedampson5140 Sad world we live in. Misinformation and stupidity is being honored...
@Donald except he was replying to comments of the same age.
I wish the energy meter showed us how many kW were actually in the battery pack. I live in FL, RWD LR, mostly highway miles at 78-80mph, and can never get 240 actual miles comfortably.
I feel the same. I have a dual motor. almost 3 years old with 80.000 km. I live in Denmark and have had 2 trips to southend Europe. So smooth - and cheap. Also my best purchase : )
How do you feel about the battery decrease?
@@JM-kv2kn I know Jay Leno said he had had his for 7 years when he traded it for a new model and from what he could tell he only had 5% degradation. Said power output was the same as original just a few last miles.
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@@williamscoggin1509 but was he actually driving it? That guy has a zillion cars I bet some cars don’t get his driving attention.
Do you have any problems with the cold and the snow?!
I dont want this to come off wrong (for the other reviews I’ve seen) bu this is by far the best review I’ve watched due to the fact you answered many questions that other missed, you’re shear humility & honesty, & the fact that you made every topic relatable. The other reviews I’ve seen have sounded like rich snobs complaining about every little detail when comparing it to other luxury vehicles & the topics they touched on were mostly in regards to things of that nature, which obviously is no real help lol thank you for this, I am now more interested in making the switch than I was before & its all thanks to your quality review 👍🏽
I think the barrier to entry for so many people is the very high initial cost when purchasing and EV of any kind. Especially if you are a younger person like myself in their early 20s where any vehicle above 10-15k is extremely unreasonable.
Prices will come down, just try to drive as cheap as possible until then or even better avoid having a car if possible. We brought an old Hyundai when I was like 26/27 and a cheap apartment, 3 years later we had money for a Model 3. The Model 3 cost about half the price per mile as the Hyundai (not including devaluation). When used EV prices comes down owning a car will come way down in price.
I definitely agree. The average person is not paying 50 K for a car.
I’m 21 and paid off my Tesla model 3, yall just lazy
@@nalsra0 “y’all just lazy” nah you just have rich parents 😂
calling everyone lazy in such an awful housing and job market is wild.
@@Project2457official Yeah me working 10’s 7 days a week is parents money bro yeah you got me 🤣🤣 Yall will do anything but work hard for what you want. Dont project you being a bum onto me ✌🏻
Mine is almost 300000km, I got it in June 2019. It’s still very good ! Everyone is impressed when I tell them my mileage. It’s a Dual Motor Long Range. I’m French by the way.
Still have it?
@@dexterstanley4185 yes and now it’s 385000km. I’m changing it at the end of the year for a Volvo EX90. I also bought an EQV300 in October (I’m a private driver in the Champagne area).
Holy shit. That’s pretty good. Does it still have some life left? How’s the battery?
@@dexterstanley4185 The battery is fine, I think I lost 15%. Still can do long distance trip with no problem.
@fabfabcemoi That's a lot of milage for a 2019 car. My 2009 Jetta is still sitting on 280 000 km yet I'm driving it pretty much every day.
That was by far the best 19 minutes I've spent on youtube in my life!
Excellent review, Andy. I think this is one of your more important video, because it shows how the Tesla is as it "ages". New car reviews are nice, but most cars are nice when they are brand new. The real proof of a car's quality and reliability is when the car has some years and mileage on it. Good work, Andy.
As always Andy, you are the best when it comes to Tesla. I am too old to get into the Model 3 as it sits too low for my back getting in and out. I have been waiting for the 4680 batteries before ordering a model Y. The prices increased so I held off and now they are back down a little so I may bite the bullet and just order one now and get it in August, hopefully from GIGA Texas. Thanks for all you do. I hope Tesla recognizes you and gives you a Model S Plaid!
Thanks Dennis!
I think it’s awesome how much you’ve researched these cars. Most people I know above 50 won’t give Tesla the time of day
@@LawnMowerFan If you reply was to me ... thanks. I am 71 and will be 72 this summer. I am a techno geek, retired Pilot and love gadgets!
@@Ob1Love it was! It sounds like you’ve had a fulfilling life thus far. I think you owe yourself a model Y or whatever dream car fits your budget! I’m taking delivery of my model 3 next Tuesday and couldn’t be more excited. Have a good one!
@@aslye Andy this kind of advertising is so first level, and direct! Thanks for the tire tips! Our gas is 4.30 a gallon or more for regular gas. For transmission oil and filter changes are 300- 700$ every 40-50K. Don't forget timing belts for 600-1500 every 50-60K. Brakes 300-1200 every 60K plus depending on location and driving habits. Great review! Thanks!!!
This is honestly one of the most informative and enjoyable RUclips videos I’ve ever come across
Great review. Best car ever! I’m in it for the long haul also with my 2018 (red) LR RWD Model 3. Picked it up April 15, 2018. My last two ICE cars made it for 20 years before I donated one to PAWS Chicago, still looked new, and replaced it with the Model 3. As of yesterday it had a max range of 315 miles so no battery degradation at this point. That said I only have 39,825 miles on it. Enjoy the ride and keep up the great videos! ❤️
Side note; I’m in the FSD beta program. One of the numerous reasons I got this car was I thought it would be smoothly driving me around the heart of the big city (Chicago) by now. I drove for the rich & famous for 36 years and knew I’d eventually need to be driven around. At age 67 it doesn’t look like I’ll live to experience that… My FSD beta experiences in the big city are anything but stellar. Who knows maybe a big tech jump will happen.
Lemme know when you are going to donate that model 3 🙏
Never thought i would see a 100k review for at least for a few years. I don't own a Tesla but want one in the near future so this answers a lot of questions about used car ownership
I was into tesla when the model s was revealed. I watched live as they revealed the model 3 prototype and looked forward to the time they were common. Now I'm enjoying that time. One day I'll own one I don't doubt. Pick up a used one for 10k
It’s almost time, they’re selling for 20k now
I bought a 2018 Model 3 LR AWD in early 2019. My real-world range on a full charge has been more like 265 miles. During winter, that is more like 210. Like the person in the video though, I've not seen any appreciable degradation from charge/discharge cycles. I've seen some other issues like my rear right tail light fogging up occasionally, something even my 28 year old Toyota doesn't do despite Tesla claiming that is normal. There is speaker grille in the front left that squeaks during driving. The control arms are starting to groan. There were multiple flaws in the paint such as debris trapped under it on the driver door and the rear right quarter panel not having had enough paint applied to it. They managed to dent the chrome trim above the driver door before delivery. The rear right passenger door is misaligned. The phone key feature is unreliable and will eventually leave you stranded if you don't keep a backup key card on you. The driver side window doesn't auto-up correctly. It goes up a couple inches and then back down, a process which repeats a variable number of times until eventually it goes up as expected.
It's a misconception that these cars are heavy compared to gas cars, but the high torque does lead to quicker wear. My first set of tires wore out at about 25K miles, and from what I gather that is ballpark for what a lot of people tend to get. Those original tires had a tread wear life of 500 iirc.
Service isn't that convenient if you don't live somewhere with a service center, and that is a problem since these things seem to almost universally have issues. The build quality in general is just not great and is more like what I'd expect from a $25K econobox than a $50K luxury sedan. I still like the car, but it makes me worry for the long term.
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maybe had a fender bender on the rear right before delivery
My dad does work with Tesla, his company sells them machines that produce some of their parts. . He says his biggest complaint is the build quality, materials used. These things should get better with time and experience, supplier relations, leverage, etc. The cost of ownership explained here almost negates the initial price difference in 4 years. If it goes a decade at the same rate, it's on par or better than the best automobiles ever built.
Buy a Ford. They make great cares that last forever and problem free.
Luxury brands are almost never reliable. It’s usually the opposite. A $20k Toyota Corolla has legendary reliability but almost every single $50k+ car has horrible reliability. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. all have abysmal reliability and always have (despite German engineering supposedly being superior to every other manufacturer).
Yep, the Supercharger network was what convinced me to buy a new Model S way back in March, 2014. I waited until over a year AFTER Elon announced his nationwide Supercharger network to make sure he was serious. When it became clear he WAS serious, I jumped in wholeheartedly. And I’m so glad I did. I’m currently driving a 2016 Model S P100DL. I bought it because my 2014 Model S P85 didn’t have dual-motor AWD (I live in snowy Michigan); and also because it was just before 2017 after which Elon had announced Tesla was ending free unlimited Supercharging for its cars. So, I got in just under that deadline. Ever since, wherever I drive in the US and Canada, I never have to pay for Supercharging. And the car still runs perfectly fine after 5 years and only 53,000 miles. It doesn’t get any better than that! My next car will definitely be another Tesla!
Awesome
The free supercharging is still on models up to 2017, right?
@@domk2993 Yes, but a couple big if’s:
1) The original car purchaser bought access to the Supercharger network when the car was first purchased. Access to the Tesla Supercharger was a $2,000 option for new Tesla S & X car purchases in the early 2012-2014 model years. Most bought it, but a few car buyers didn’t! And…
2) You buy your pre-2017 Model S or X from a someone other than Tesla. I think you should get the car with continued access to free unlimited Supercharging. For example, if I traded in my 2016 Model S in to Tesla, they may not pass on the free unlimited Supercharging benefit to the subsequent purchaser. The best thing to do is contact Tesla before you buy a Model S or X from a private seller and ask if the VIN # has and still qualifies for free, unlimited Supercharging - and get that answer in writing from Tesla.
We will see if it can get to 200k like you know real cars can
@@Hallowsaw there's always that negative guy in the comments.
My battery life on my 2016 MS is around 230; 245 new. Almost to 100K
I’ve had my LR over 40,000 miles with very few issues that were minor. The joy of driving the car far outweighs the issues. Got FSD when it was cheaper and very much enjoy being part of the future as a tester.
I had my model 3 for 3 years and then just sold it
@@RealGodfromheaven can i ask why?
fsd will never happen
@@johnshera3935 still takes some time. They wont start it off in crowded cities.
@@johnshera3935 Neither will returning a rocket to earth and landing it on a rolling ship.😂.
And here I am with a 2021 M3 with 60,000 miles already in 10 months. The car is dual motor, and my battery is still reading 324 miles with a full charge. I charge up to about 88% to 90% everyday but will generally top it off right before I leave out, and I use the 48amp Tesla home charger. I use this car to drive anywhere from 150 to 400 miles a day, sometimes more. But average out to around 6k miles a month give or take.
In the Winter at 10 to 20 degrees fahrenheit, I average about 210 to 220 miles of realistic mileage on a full charge, but last spring summer and fall, I had a few full charges actually got me more than 350 miles of range. ( That was at cruising speeds of around 70mph and normal driving habits)
I removed the 19s for a set of artisa 18s and taller tires, roads where I live are terrible, and my 19s have been bent and repaired. Since going to the 18s, my efficiency has gone up, and ride quality went wayyy up, and better yet haven't bent a wheel!!
So to anybody out there that don't think a electric car "has enough range" for what they do, take it from me, you should consider one because I do almost 6x the amount of driving to the average person.
I'm paying .07 cents per kw on super off peak hours, so it costs me anywhere from 4 to 5 bucks for a full charge, and when you work out the math, it's like 140 to 200 extra to my electric bill each month.
Hope this comment helps anyone!
Finally some real numbers. It is one thing to say your max range is that, because you never drop to 0% if you want to preserve your battery. I knew you'd have to charge only to 85% but you made a good point. You could top up to 100% just before you are heading out because - I think - staying at 100% hurts the battery only if it stays like that a long time. So driving right away would minimize the issue. So you could schedule it. Charge it to 85%, and 30min before heading out top up to 100%. Brilliant
Yup and I'm also doing a full battery cycle too. Meaning doing that I'm nearly full charging it, but then I'll nearly drain the battery during my drive on that same day, versus letting the car sit there for a day or 2 at 85% then 2 days later it's at 50% then 2 more days it's nearly dead, needing a full charge. I put the car through full battery cycles daily, which is what those batteries were designed for, deep cycles.
Little update, my battery now reads 330 miles at full charge and I'm at 71000 miles now
Watching in 2024, also live in Louisville. Hey, that looks like lower Brownsboro Rd. And hey, thats Zorn Ave! Then I read the description and see you're in Lou as well. Thanks for the update!
Very good video Andy. Probably one of the clearest and most concise ownership videos I have seen without it being sidetracked with non-important info. I must say this has changed my mind about Tesla ownership and I much appreciate your sharing of your experience over the years
Great long term review Andy 🙏
Thanks! Hope you’re still enjoying yours as well 👍
I just bought an almost identical 2023 model 3 Red rear drive black interior silver wheels. So far after 1 week we are very happy. Thank you 👍
How is the battery when driving In the summer time ?
@@great4ever845 I haven't noticed much difference. My 3 has a heat pump so ac and heater have little affects on range. Thank you
2021 Model 3 owner here....great review and very on point. My one and only complaint is the phantom braking, which makes Autopilot mostly unusable on the two lane roads we drive (especially in low light conditions). I sure hope this gets resolved, or at least improved, through software updates. Glad to see how well your M3 has held up after 100k miles - thank you for sharing!!
It is not as good as he points out. The real degradation is 8%.
@@teslakiller6959 no… it is as good as he pints out. That’s his experience.
@@fatal510 No it is not. He is calculating wrong. His full rated range based on a specific constant is 325 miles. His odd 300 miles (because the gauge in the app is not accurate) gives him about 92% from the initial range. You can watch my channel to understand the math behind this...
My '17 A4 also phantom breaks. Though I changed the settings from Early to Normal warning (also late available) and the problem went away.
Nicely done, Andy. Informative and comprehensive, minus all the hyperbole and breathless enthusiasm. Teslas are great, and don’t need to be overhyped - the facts, as you brilliantly lay out, are compelling on their own.
I’m at nearly one year of ownership, and 10,640 miles (love that app!), so I’ve got a ways to go yet to 100,000 miles. But I too am looking forward to many miles of EV ownership!
Keep up the great work!
By far the best and most honest review. Got to the point, stayed on track with a car review and left politics and left nitpick nonsense out of it.
I’m nearly sold on my first EV.
Great review. I’ve been driving my son in laws model S (all the extras), and have loved it, but felt that there were a few things that weren’t up to par for (in terms of price) a premium vehicle. You mentioned them in your review, I.e. road noise, sloppy Ill conceived manufacturing etc. but, with all that, I love it. I love driving it , looking at it and being in it.
Thanks for sharing, Martin!
It's too expensive for what it is and its build quality is horrendous, however, I love the Model S.
Your range current range is amazing. My 2020 M3P was 310 now down to 275 miles estimated. But in the sub 10°C I'm lucky to reach 200 miles. Oh, and only 18,000 miles covered in 2 years.
Haha I ride my Triumph 15,000/ yr
well, looks like it's a temperature and how much time you keep it a high charge problem. It's a batteries characterstic not a tesla's.
Same with my car, I’m tempted to trade it in for a long range model 3.
Thanks Andy, I’ve just bought the base Model 3 and since I live off-grid on solar power I guess my savings will be even higher!
BTW, I live on an off-grid community in Australia, and in the past two years 7 of the 30 households have switched to EV’s
100% agree that highway road noise is my biggest complaint with my 2018. Also, I have FSD Beta and it’s not worth $12k in its current implementation, fingers crossed for the future.
Not yet. I wish I could buy it now and buy my car later. 👀
I look at FSD as an investment. Yes its expensive but with most other manufacturers you will need to buy a whole new car for an updated system. Your model 3 will be state of the art of probably the next 10 years. Maybe longer
@@andrewrossnagel9433
It's not an investment, you're getting conned if you think it is...
@CrazyWeeMonkey Thats an interesting outlook that I will surely consider
Really good content, well thought out, practical, and just well laid out - enjoyment, reliability and cost. Thanks Andy!!
Thanks for watching!
I commute 90 miles round trip every single day plus personal driving and got a 2023 Model 3 long range and it has been a game changer since i also work for an electric company that has chargers at my office not superchargers but just like normal charge point chargers and its 100% free for employees i save 200+ a month on gas compared to my subaru and my commute is 99% 2 lane highway in a rural area and normal auto pilot works amazing.
Thank you Andy! It’s good to hear from you who has owned the car for four years now. I got mine LR March last year. I also enjoy it very much and will not go back to gas car. I don’t have a house but live in an apartment. So, I have to rely on superchargers. Even this is not an issue for me. Thanks for continue to make video like this to share your experience. I did not buy FSD. I also drive a lot. About 70-135miles a day.
That was an awesome analysis of your 4 years with the model 3. Thank you so much for the break down and honest concise information. If anybody is sitting on the fence about purchasing a Tesla, they shouldn't be now!
fake news. that computer is not truth. we need you to do actual live test. drive 303 miles and see if it lasts. that's how real tests are done.
Dumb iPhone car drive a v8 like an adult
Yep talked me right out of it
@Yeah I’m sure i mean yeah, to charge an Ev its cheap now but i think that price will triple if more and more would buy Ev cars eventually, so if you would look gas price vs energy price right now its 100% worth it, also i would go for tesla for this reason, charging Ev car from where i am is around 40% cheaper than a ICE car
There is a lawsuit pending now, because a self driving Tesla has killed a Motorcycle rider.
Perfect breakdown! It was well-organized, informative, and interesting, without any annoying frills. I never thought I'd be convinced it's smarter purchase financially than a $20k gas car but you brought all the facts.
The department of energy has the real stats on the cost difference between the 2. for the initial cost difference you would have to drive the EV nearly 400,000 miles before saving money. i.e. my ice gets 31mpg average = average cost per mile at $5.00 = $.16 a mile. EV is averaging $.08-.13 a mile per the Department of energy.
Not worth it at all considering the power grid of every city and suburb in the country would need ~160% more electric energy bandwidth to charge them all. This would raise your taxes by a considerable amount and also raise everyone electric bill by more than 2x.
There are no more 20 k cars
It's not 30 plus
@Atheistme I didn't know you wrote it so long ago
Buy new Cara costvactually 30 k
The 20 k car went out the window
@@ralphpalfacts can’t find any at 20k with low mileage and decent enough to see myself in.
@@LucidVisionMane That's your choice of course but they are out there. In the video the guy is saving around $2500 a year in fuel costs but he does a lot of mileage. You're not going to get anywhere close to that unless you do the mileage and if you don't do a lot of mileage you're not likely to be saving anything. And none of this takes into account the potential cost of new batteries. I don't even know if he's factored in the higher buying cost compared to an ice car and the higher cost of tyres and insurance. I know there are claims of very high mileages but if they do fail - and some will - the replacement cost probably wouldn't be worth it. For an older ICE car you can get reconditioned replacement engines quite cheaply.
Thanks Andy! I watched a lot of your videos before I purchased my first Model 3 in March of 2021. So far I love it and don't regret my purchase at all.
Great video Andy! I love my 2021 Tesla Model 3!
Thanks for watching, Randy! That’s great to hear.
@@nxp22 I drive a 2017 bolt ev it driving good . Basic car and gets the job done. Currently at 52500 miles on it. And they can be bought for anywhere in between from 18k to 24k out the door. And 230 miles of range and 55kw on electrify America chargers.
Ev car buyers are mind children,
Mind children are easily led - and easily misled.
@@jakedank2746 Well, Jake, let's just say that if we ARE mind children, we are smart enough to know a good thing when we find it. Right now, my 'gas mileage' is infinity. And, since I charge my Tesla with solar power, my co$t per mile is pennies for the power. What are you paying at the pump?
@@nxp22 $52,000 now. I got my Model 3 LR in December just in time before the price hike yesterday. Still spent $56,000 after taxes and stuff. Base price was $48 I think
I am completely comfortable driving a 1940 John Deere hand clutch, a real hands on mechanical do it yourself type.
My second day of owning a '22 model 3, I have adapted to it and love it.
That’s phenomenal! 2.2% deterioration after 100,000 miles. On average, I’d say my Nissan leaf will deteriorate 2.5% every year, however I suppose that’s relative to the battery. You must be very please with your car.
Hi, Andy! I'm in the same boat as you. 5/2018 M3 LR RWD, 106,000 miles, 304-ish miles rated range at 100% in the app. To be fair, though, we did get a 5% range boost as reported by Teslarati on 2/18/2019 to get us nominally up to 325 miles on a fresh battery by reducing the buffer size. So, It's physically closer to 7%, but 2% relative to what we bought. Couldn't be happier. And, yes, my 2013 24kWh Nissan Leaf is 9 years old with 99,800 miles and down to 78% SOH, so active cooling does make a big difference.
Andy, you nailed every single points from the best to the worse of the early adopters model 3. Great 👍 Job with video !
We purchased the exact same vehicle & colour back in 2018 in Canada and now has over 72,000km without any issues and counting, we still love the vehicle and would not give up for anything.
Where in Canada are you? How is it holding up in the snow and cold?
@@jlb7707 I am in southwestern Ontario which is about 125 miles from Detroit Michigan, I never had any issues in winter with a good set of winter tires,
I just ordered a 2020 red model 3 rear wheel drive standard plus that looks very similar to that. I'm so excited!
How u liking it so far?
I'm right at 15k miles on my M3P. By far the best car I've ever owned. I agree with all of your points, excellent video.
I love my M3 - the tech is incredible & it’s just so much FUN to drive!!
M3 is a BMW
@@Dad_of_War Done that too, but M3LR - better?
I rented a model 3 to go to south Ga. It was the best ride have ever experienced. Drove almost 450 miles and felt like I had just driven around the corner. Cost for my charges ….$11.87. I will only buy a Tesla even though Kia,Volkswagen, GM, have great electric cars but the charging network is unmatched.
You covered the 100,000 miles on point. When people ask me questions or start nagging, I’ll be telling them to watch this video. I also hate the update, removing the seat warmer buttons and defroster, feels dumb having to click here and there for pop up menus, also not making it easy to switch between FM radio and my phone.
Winter kills the battery and these are not made for Cold Canadian winters. At -20C the power is 50% less if not in a heated garage. The batteries are Not Recycled. Green Dream ?
@@petepenn1 references for claims?
@@lengould9262 that's how it works. Does your phone battery last the same if you leave it in the cold?
Its only 4 years old...
Use voice commands.
Completely agree with all these items, after owning my Model 3 for nearly 30,000 miles.
But I am only at 295 miles on 2020 LR at 100% looking at the Tesla app at 28,332 miles.
I purchased a model s 2 yrs ago for my wife and for the 1st yr she struggled with the range with in real world is a little over 300 miles. Today she loves it because she now realizes all of the places we travel are less than 300 miles from home and on the few trips over 100miles we stay overnight and charge at the location for free. To date we have only paid for home charging because friends relatives and hotels have always allowed free charging. Tesla app estimates that we save close to $250 per month by not using gas which is about $3k a yr plus to date we don't have any out of pocket maintenance expenses.
Love the concept of electric cars but like you said, fiscal savings is only 10k every 4 years over a traditional car. I bought a motorcycle and was net positive on the purchase price from fuel savings after only 3 years. It's a good start but EV's still have a ways to go.
I think it can be argued the savings are overshadowed by devaluation of the car
@@Jaydoublyou The other big problem is that after 100k miles the battery warranty expires; You could get a faulty cell and that could be potentially 5-15k to fix.
Then there are wearable suspension components; ball joints, bushings, replacing shocks, etc, This stuff would need to get replaced eventually. This video doesn't touch on any maintenance like this.
@@tpc01x All of that plus the eventual obsolescence of the tech in early EV cars make the long term savings questionable if quantifiable at all
Thanks for this long-term owner's update. Our 2020 LR AWD with the Performance Boost UpgradeY is 18 months old with just 15K mils and it's been flawless. I didn't buy it to SAVE any money I just loved how they drive (my last vehicle was a 2014 Stingray). But any savings for me is just a bonus which I can confirm is REAL and CONSIDERABLE over any ICE vehicle in its category. My plan was to keep our Y for 3 years and by then Tesla would have made enough improvements to make that the sweet spot to trade UP. That's still my plan, I want a new Y from Austin with the 4680 batteries and the latest features/upgrades. I'll be 71 years old by then and that might be the Tesla we keep for a longer period of time as their manufacturing capability should be greatly improved, plus am hoping for some new paint/interior color options. Regarding the cost of FSD, I agree purchasing it OUTRIGHT is not a wise financial decision now that you can "RENT" it on a monthly basis for $200. We take 4 to 5 long road trips a year where we might try it out, but for us, basic AP works just fine. Cheers from southern Illinois.
Yesterday I got back from a road trip vacation to Michigan from my home of St Louis, Missouri. I went from STL all the way up to the top of Michigan in Mackinaw Island, and I spent only $218 for supercharging. I have a standard range model 3, so I really felt those extra 2-3 chargers I had to use since my range is only 224 miles on full. I second what Andy says about getting the most range you can, however rest assured, you can still easily make these trips, even in a standard range model 3.
Appreciate you breaking it down Andy! You made a very valid point. Pre pandemic (early 2020), I was going to buy a Tesla Model 3 but instead I went with the 2017 Mercedes E300 due to thinking I might run out of a charge and Not being able to just pull up to a gas station. Back in 2020 there were some “super chargers” but not how there is today. My Mercedes’ interior is ridiculously nice and luxurious, but the Tesla model 3’s interior is simple, but still very nice. I call it the Apple iPhone of cars. If I could go back to 2020, I would’ve gotten the Model 3. The maintenance on my E300 is not cheap. Oil changes (full synthetic) are anywhere from $130-$150 depending on where you go, which hold for 5,000 miles. The service A is around $800, while the service B is $2,300. They check all your fluids, top them off, change the spark plugs, and that’s pretty much it. And that labor is what hikes that price up. Also, I’ve had to change my tires multiple times. The E300 does not come with a spare, but it has Pirelli run flats which are costly. They run about $350-$375 per tire. Only good part about them is if you get a nail or the tire goes flat and loses all tire pressure at 0, you can still drive on it for about 50-100 miles no faster than 55mph. My air vent makes a minor clicking sound that I can hear because I drive my car alot, but it’s not noticeable to someone who’s not paying attention to it. I brought it in to Mercedes’ and they for one charged me $215.00 just to “run a diagnostic” on it, and for two said in order for them to fix the minor issue they have to replace the entire air vent panel - they told me $3,000. It’s not effecting the air or anything, you just hear a small click on full blast so I left it as is. My point is, the maintenance is a lot. The Tesla Model 3 doesn’t have maintenance. Thanks for the video!
Hi Dom-I have the exact same Mercedes you do. Maintenance fees are insane. I’m thinking of switching to regular tires because run flats are so expensive. I did get a flat tire and it was very uncomfortable and loud driving on these tires. I only drove 2 miles but very slowly and on the shoulder of the road. I Live in a condo so cannot charge at home. If I could I would definitely trade Mercedes for the model 3.
@@lorihamilton9821 I agree. Run flats come in handy but too expensive. I drove about 25 miles on the run flat at 50mph on the freeway 1st lane. Mercedes is expensive to maintain. That also played a part in why I didn’t get the Model 3 back in 2020 was because my complex doesn’t have a charging station
I drive a Mercedes Class B Electric Drive. No maintenance -- the best of both worlds.
Tesla's services are as expensive as Mercedes is..
@@llambimico6833 but there’s no maintenance on a Tesla lol
I absolutely loved my 3 and it led me to the new S. Build was mediocre but the pros outweighed the cons by far. So comfortable, fun to drive, easy on long trips, economical, reliable, the list goes on. Could have kept it for much much longer if I had to.
So in conclusion nothing special most car a fun to drive reliable and confortable
But the built quality is shit the part are super expensive and never in stock super long wait time for an appointment to the dealer and you can't do any work on the car easily without Elon making a tantrums about it
@@legros731 most cars are nowhere near as fun to drive as an EV (that’s right, most any EV. Chevy Bolt is more fun than ‘73 Trans Am). Service appointments are maybe a week out, comparable to other mechanics. In a pinch, I’ve driven to the service center for an immediate emergency fix.
@@brendykes6599 you compare a 73 trans am to an ev what a moron why don't you compare them to a Ford model T
Personally a like my car of the 3 pedal variety
A will take my s2000 before any ev it's small lightweight and convertible with no stupid driving aid this is a fun car that you can push to is limit in the corner
Straight line acceleration is fun for the first week but after you get accustomed to it it's no more fun you will want more but guest what you can't modify it to make it faster
Ice car can easily be modified to make them faster or better handling
I don't see tesla or any other ev manufacturers selling better motor/battery/bms and where do you use 1000hp (tesla plaid)it way more fun to drive a slow car fast that a fast car slow
If they where so fun to drive can you tell my why people's waste 10 000$ on autopilot for the car to drive itself lol
So mazda(miata,rx7,rx8)/honda(civic,integra,s2000,nsx)/wv(golf r32)/porche/bmw all model but particularly the m model/Nissan(s13,s14,s15,300zx,skyline,350z,370z,400z) and Toyota (brz/86,supra) are not fun to drive a chevy bolt is surely way more fun lol😅😂🤣
And the best part of normal car is tinkering with them to make them better to your liking and unique and guest what no need for a appointment a can do all the repair myself with easy to get part
Want something fun the 2 step on my turbo civic is the definition of fun spit 2 foot flame and sound like a shotgun is stupid fast and can do burnout in 4 gear on the highway it's at 600hp but can raise the boost for 900hp if a want but it's useless on the street unless you want to burn the tire at 900hp a can destroy a tesla plaid super easily in a roll race 1000hp and 5000lbs vs 900hp and 2500lbs
@@legros731 poor lil triggered man boy.
average aggressive gas car user
Excellent video. All three main aspects of owning a Tesla are presented here, no bias.
I am glad I bought a Tesla 50 ... days ago. I really enjoy it with its autopilot, Traffic Awareness and Auto Steer.
I only have near 300 miles on it total. Still learning on how to maximize its range. City driving at speed below 45 miles/hour seem to consume less battery energy than highway driving. the trip's reports are great to monitor this aspect. Blown tire on long trip when I am in no where location is a concern, so I bought a spare tire kit (weighting 50 lbs) to bring on long trip JUST IN CASE. That gives me peace of mind.
From my understanding city will always be better than highway. Because highway driving, your regenerative braking won’t be used as much. You’ll be at a constant speed = using more power
After 50k+ miles in my model 3, the only problem I had was a suspension arm failed that was covered under warranty, and some creaking noises from the steering column. My battery has not held up as well as Andy's, I have about 296mi range. I suspect the degradation started getting worse after I no longer had the ability to charge it every day. I changed my tires at about 45k miles, which is much longer than I should have waited.
The road noise is a thing at highway speeds, but I also hear motor whine between 20 and 30mph. Maybe that's only on AWD cars with a front motor. I can usually get 225mi on a 100% charge at highway speeds by which I mean 80mph or so. I don't find the computer that accurate when it comes to stop times and such. I frequently drive faster than it says I should and still reach my destination with charge to spare. That might be due to the navigation system not having elevation data. The worst range I ever had was driving highway speeds in Chicago in 15f weather. I think I managed barely 160mi of range that way on a full charge.
I have a 2018 I bought before autopilot became standard, and I don't miss it. I would not have bought a $50k+ car if I did not like driving. All in all, its an excellent car.
Irani?
Lol evs have a long way to go
People that love driving generally don’t buy electric cars js
@@JustxLiving909 not true
Did you notice it when you turned?
Great video. I can't believe it's been 4 years. Wow. Still going great tho!
And I can confirm, my 2021 Model Y is leagues quieter than my 2018 3 was.
Why doesn’t Tesla advertise their running changes to their cars? Sounds to me that the Model Y for instance has undergone many under the skin changes that are not visible but make a huge difference in driving dynamics and range! Tesla is not a stationary target like many people think they are. They might only offer a handful of car/crossover models but they sure do change and improve them over the years!
@@metaljew4456 Because the internet is full of Tesla owners saying this for free. Most people discount advertising anyway. I know I do.
I really appreciate your efforts to inform us about this wonderful vehicle.
Many thanks for you from Baghdad Iraq 🇮🇶
Awesome video dude! I love my model 3 even more now! Did 16k miles in two years, absolutely no problems and going strong 😁
It better lol. You haven’t even broke your tires in
@@Kinghippi3 fr lol
Thank you. Great report that I listened to over my lunch break. I bought a Y in September 2020. I’ve owned easily 30 cars. This one’s the best, for all the reasons you mentioned. But, my insurance is very expensive mostly because when first owning her, I was driving to the ramp in my parking garage and hit the left rear door as I turned too tight and the repair was super expensive and then my insurance increased dramatically. This was my first accident in 30 years. So, repair of the body is more expensive than I’ve been told comparable cars cost. And they recommend that you go to certified body shops.
My 2020 M3 had a similar situation. The big problem with Tesla's is repair time. It took 2+ months to repair a damaged rear fender. This is my only car and $1200 was spent on a rental vehicle (Insurance covers 30 days). From what I've read, 2 months is normal repair time on Tesla's. Also be warned, my M3 which is always parked in a garage, was left out in weather, under a tree, and with birds in that tree. Probably another $200+ to have it polished and I'm sure my insurance will go up.
I am a new driver and I have a 24-year-old car. There was water flooding the engine and I paid 900€ after 4 months of owning the thing! Luckily it doesn't appear to have any other mechanical issues, it has 283.500km on its back after all. I plan to keep it for 3-4 years and get something better and newer when I start making my own money.
I don't own a EV, but headline caught my eye. This was an excellent, honest review , well done
Nice review. I think owners find they want to drive everywhere after purchasing the car, just so much fun! Autopilot plus amazing supercharger network makes me a habitual road tripper..
I have a 2021 Model 3, already several improvements and looking forward to 100K+ miles driving. Also, an owner of a Model S since 2014 - well over 100K miles and still going strong. Thanks for the content.
Nice if you have your own garage and you can get electricity for $0.07/kWh. At the moment electricity in the UK is about $0.30/kWh.
Great stuff, Andy? I think you covered most of the questions future owners of Tesla vehicles have on their minds. 1) Was it a good purchase for your use case vs lesser initial cost ICE vehicles 2) Is it reliable over long term/high mileage - especially post Tesla warranty and 3) Is it still an exciting daily driver 4 years in. I’m waiting for a LR Model Y, due for receipt sometime later this fall and I’m still shopping the options out there - including the Ionia 5 and EV6. But I keep coming back to the Model Y as providing the most value for dollar. Sure, it’s very expensive - all of these cars are - and that’s the biggest barrier for most shoppers. But if you can afford it, it sure looks like the 3 and Y are the route to go. Thx for your continued efforts in keeping us in the know about your Tesla ownership journey!
My Subaru will last me 30 years with basic maintenance and I can switch to alcohol as a cleaner fuel. My model 3 DM had issues from the gate.... Tesla has too many factory and service problems for me to take EVs from them seriously.
@@svenjorgensenn8418 Keeping a car for 30 yrs is a truly Green way to go. Practical way to save the planet and above all more muscles in your saving.
Nice review Andy, I don't think your battery longevity is abnormal. I put around 90K miles on a Chevy Bolt EV in 2 years, and degradation was 7% at 146K miles when I completed the GM buyback.
My experience with tires and cost of ownership are similar to yours. I don't think everyone should be pushed to the biggest battery possible - I got a 40 kWh Nissan LEAF after the buyback, I live in Minnesota where it's cold 5 months, do rideshare, and it's perfectly fine.
For me saving $20K buying within my budget was more important than a big battery for the reason you state - at home charging!
I have a 2005 Lexus ES330 and still runs great. Doubt Tesla will last past 15 years.
I’m really happy that you’ve had a positive experience so far. I have a 2021 Model Y, although in a year I only put on 8,000 miles. Holy smokes you drive a lot! I watched your previous videos so I’ve been caring for my battery in the same way you’ve cared for yours (charging at home, taking it easy on the HVAC, and not charging past 80% for almost 99% of the current life of my car. Here’s to 200,000 miles to you! And as for me, here’s to maybe cracking 50,000 miles one day 😂😂
One of the best vehicles you’ve purchased along with one of the best videos you’ve put out there! Awesome editing, story line & many rich details
Fantastic review! This has swayed me to buy a Model 3. I am currently a Jeep Wrangler owner and, given my Wrangler is worth about the same as a newer Model 3, it is clear to me - just from financial standpoint - a Model 3 would save me so much in gas, oil, and maintenance, I have only owned a hybrid (Prius) and I think the Tesla gives you even more value than a Prius but so much more in terms of performance. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. So may Tesla bashers out there giving out misinformation. It was nice to hear from a long-term owner. Thanks again!
Top notch video! My Model 3 RWD is coming in a couple months(2023 model with LFP battery), super stoked
How do you like it?
@@PassportGaming really enjoying it, it’s very hassle-free to own and drive!
Your video caught my attention for a reason. It concerned me so much that the vehicle would be so expensive. The maintenance and being stuck on the side of the road was definitely a concern, but you did a great job of breaking down the car. You have inspired me to purchase this car for my birthday in September, thanks to this video.
Don’t dude it’s cheap feeling trash
Thank you for a great review, you did not waste one second of my time. full of facts and details that I was wondering about!
Excellent content, as usual. You have such a calming presence and voice.
This basically proves the long term reliability and cost advantages. When you consider the $12k in gas savings over 100k miles, and the $7500 tax credit, it all makes sense.
Then it doesn’t make as much sense when a similar spec petrol car would only cost 30k in the first place and not start dropping to bits in only 4 years
@@georgeoliver8300 Dropping to bits?
And what similar spec car is $30k?
Keep in mind you can get a model 3 S performance for $50K that runs 3 sec 0-60 and has an incredible safety rating, not to mention the Tesla curb appearl. There isn't a similarly speced $30K car.
@@carsgunsandguitarsTesla curb appeal 🤣 Most boring looking car on the planet..
@hobo1704 if you think a model S or a Cybertruck are boring to look at you are high
@@carsgunsandguitars cyber truck 😂 Stupidest looking thing ever made, wouldn't be seen dead driving one..
Great review Andy! I got my model 3 six months before you and like you I still absolutely love my car.
Fantastic breakdown. Saving 25k over the life of the vehicle makes the actual cost of the car around 25K as well. What a steal! there are only a handful of cars in the world less expensive than that new.
Don't think that would work for me. A model 3 costs around $70,000. I spend $35 per week on fuel. Even assuming electricity is free and zero maintenance, a model 3 would be more expensive over the long term than my current car because of the up front costs, financing and insurances wouldn't be offset by the small weekly fuel savings. Purchase price need to drop by 50% to get me intetested.
@@toby9999 The common math works out that if you drive 15K a year, you basically break even, and only if you drive more than that do you see significant savings. The problem is the people who drive 5-8K a year. They won't ever see a benefit over just getting a nice Civic Hatchback or similar. $25K and $3K a year at most - you'll be 10K under the base MSRP after a decade. Add in insurance, financing, 7-10% registration fees and taxes, and so on and it's closer to 20K less simply because a $25K car is so much less money tied up than a $55K car. Which also is a much smaller payment, netting you better cash-flow. I am personally a huge EV fan, but economically I can see why they still are a luxury item and Honda and Toyota still sell every gasoline powered car that they make.
1st time viewer and 1st time I've seen a video on a "old" Tesla. You're probably the first to make me actually feel more comfortable with the idea of owning an EV. I don't drive much now so may not be worth it but you gave me more to think about especially the repair costs.
I leased a Tesla for a couple years, and now looking to buy one. Those two years completely converted me and I simply cannot go back to any other car, it's just a different animal. Held up so well, and really felt bad letting it go. Try the lease option if you're willing, that way you spend much less and see whether you would enjoy the car over a longer term.
@@Ultimateum23 Never leased before but something to think about. Probably would purchase if I really do convert. Now got to think about adding PV panels to the house.
I have looked everywhere and I can not find anyone that have really considered ALL costs of ownership, including depreciation, tires, etc.
While it MAY be true that you are saving $ on gasoline and engine oil changes, those are the smallest costs of a car ownership.
My son have a Mazda 3 with 190K miles and his girlfriend have a Mazda 6 with 250K miles, both cars still do 30mpg in city and ~45mpg on highway and the engines do not leak or burn oil but in comparison the tires last 60K miles and because they cost less than $30K when new and are Japanese, the depreciation (both are more than 10 years old now) is really low.
A model 3 is around the same size but around here we have 2 year old Model 3s being sold for ~$25K....
That is a heck of a depreciation cost ($12K/year) that no savings in fuel and or regular maintenance can compensate for....
I have been researching this and what I've found is that if you have the charge port at home and you rely on that to charge for a majority of your charges, this will save you tons BUT i do not have the option for this and I would heavily rely on superchargers for my almost 90 mile commute daily. My situation would not be very good to invest in an electric vehicle
that's why you always buy second hand. Value drop in 3-4years is massive, but battery degradation just minor. Here in China new tesla3 cost 30k usd, 4 years old cost 15k usd.
Totally agree, biggest issue for me too is the phantom breaking and in my opinion it happens quite often. No fun when cruising on the highway at 130kph (80mph) and someone is behind you...
Have you had many issues with your car? I only have about 22.000 km (14.000 miles) on it and already had two sensors for the airbags malfunctioning, had one of my driver door henges replaced, have enough consensation in my rear light to keep a goldfish in it, my charging port won't open manually and my automatic trunk only functions half the time... I still love the car, but I'm a bit worried about all the 'small' issues I'm experiencing.
Yeah you have a service visit in your future.
Better get any problems resolved while the car is still under warranty. Anytime a traditional automaker release a new generation of the same model, reliability goes down as they work out the kinks. Tesla built a brand new car from the ground up, so I fully expect that there would be plenty of small issues. So far there aren't any complaints about the drive train, and sounds like they over-engineered it for durability, which is appreciated.
Excellent video Andy! My gf and I have had our M3 for just over a year now. Gas here in Los Angeles is over $6 per gallon so the savings are nuts!
"Our?" Who paid for it?
@@elonmuskvideos2648 they share it
@@lahuntr4217 yes but who paid for it? It's always the man who pays but his simpy tendencies make him share what is his
@@elonmuskvideos2648 that’s fine
@@lahuntr4217 No. He's paying her to be with him. They have a name for that
Thanks for your info on your Tesla model 3 ? I'm getting one now , thanks....
What a great review! Thanks for this helpful info.
You thank him just Luke how your hoe kf a mum thanks me 😮
That’s great that you mentioned the insurance costs for this vehicle. Something I’ve never quite thought about it. Thanks for the great review!
I have a lower income because I’m 21 working retail and school ect but with my gas car that gets under good circumstances 17 city and 22 highway along with insurance being the same amount or more then a model 3 it’s seeming like a solid option I drive 20k+ a year and spend probably $500 per year on maintenance pluse tires ect when that’s needed. I spend $7,000 a year give or take on insurance gas and maintenance. Financing a Tesla plus insurance I’d be at $8000 a year roughly
"$100 per oil change" *spits coffee*
So true haha, mine cost around $25 since the labor is free 🤪
Pretty normal for what’s considered a luxury sedan. $75-$100. Most people aren’t doing it themselves.
It’s more for like a Camaro mine is 75 got an afford.
At the price point of $40,000 I expect a lot more from production quality. I’m interested to see how the market will shift once Toyota and Honda get into the game. Great video nonetheless a lot better than I expected
Totally agreed. Well said
Agreed. Their build quality is total shit and needs massive improvement before I even remotely consider one.
Toyota is wasting time and money on Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. They won't be in the game for another five years minimum. Honda is making the same mistake. I wouldn't expect Japanese imports to be good competitors in the EV market until 2030.
I would love hydrogen. Still able to fill up in a couple minutes vs and hour. One day lol
@@randomman057 Researching alternatives is never a waste of time, Hydrogen is one of the most abundant elements on Earth. Charging EVs consumes fossil fuels while pumping Hydorgen doesn't.
I was in doubt to whether get the Tesla or not. But this video definitely made me buy one
I appreciate you touching on Autopilot vs FSD. My work commute is about 300mi/week and a big factor in considering a Model 3 for me is whether autopilot would be sufficient for for those long stretches of interstate. Sounds like it! Great review 👍🏾
@Dude with Opinion the dude actually got fired for saying BS LOL
Autopilot does its best on the interstate. I use it all the time.
I tend to describe it as AP handles the boring parts of driving pretty well. It's not something I'm willing to take my attention away from for more than a few seconds at a time but it's nice to have it keep the car in the lane and keep with the flow of traffic. I have an 80 mile commute each way (so only drive it once a week) and it's great to have. I don't think I'd actually gain anything from FSD.
@Dude with Opinion you don't understand how ai works
@Dude with Opinion I trust a computer more than I trust a person.
Great video, Andy. Just wanted to let you know that road noise is barely an issue in the 2021 model 3
Could you please el\aHborate on what yogñu mean by the rnonad noise is barely an issue for your 2021 Model 3. Do you think it’s because Tesla has added more sound deadening material? Has there been any design changes that you know about that would have helped to alleviate the noise issues ? Has Tesla addressed their paint, body gaps and other quality issues that have plagued the brand for some time now? I’m extremely impressed with the battery pack and I don’t think you got lucky with a great battery pack. I believe that they are all designed to go about 1Million miles before serious reduction in performance becomes an issue. This is a tremendous relief for anyone who is new to the Ecar game. Your Model 3 appears to have much life still in the battery pack as well as the car itself. Any additional thoughts on interior quality? Like the durability of the fabrics and plastics? Isn’t it true that Tesla is working on getting the recycling of the LI battery packs to be a closed loop system, meaning that they want to be able to recycle the entire pack almost to the point of 100%. That would be truly incredible and certainly end the discussion about how Electric Cars still pollute the earth just in a different way. Overall, I think this was a really well thought out review of a Tesla after some real world driving done to it and real world wear and tear done to the paint, seats, suspension…..Everything seemed to hold up well. I am very interested in more long term reviews of all of the Tesla models to see what they are like after say 150K Miles or 200K miles of real world use. What are the weak points of areas that need to still be addressed? Again, well done review!
I agree. You should upgrade just for the quietness of 2021 model 3. It has dual pane glass in front and makes huge difference, thus lead me to purchase that model year. Previous to 2021, model 3's just did not meet my expectations.
I have replaced so much of the suspension on MY2020. Both front control arms, sway bar bushings and lower links in the rear. 61,000 KM's
It's great you've had such a positive experience with your Tesla. Informative and interesting.
Great review Andy. You are one reason I got a Tesla model 3 SR+. Best car I ever owned.
I hope that Tesla is reimbursing you for this, because you just made me want to buy a Tesla
great recap of your 100k miles experience Andy. The battery degradation was particularly interesting as this is the first question I’m asked when someone inquires about my 2022 Y. Not sure why so many people are nervous about this. There are tons of people who have a lot of miles on their EVs with similar results as yours. My wife and I plan on driving our Y for at least 10 years and hope to get the same service as you have experienced. Thanks again!
PS: I am one of the few people who was in the first wave of Ford F-150 Lightning reservation holders who got to convert to an order. Should get it around May (hopefully!). Will be interesting to see how it does as well! 👍🏼
Congrats on the F150 lightning purchase, very intriguing EV and will be interested to see how it performs and holds up over time. I'm a tesla owner and love the car even with the shortcomings but it doesn't stop me from appreciating other EVS,
Excellent Review - and to think its one of the first off the production line and you had an overall positive experience from it. You have totally convince me to buy a Tesla over any other EV, hands down
It’s had to going in for 4 problems
I never considered getting a Tesla car because it looks too futuristic but this video made me reconsider. It actually looks like a really great car.
Really excellent vid Andy! I've been fixing my own cars for over 25 years. I'm tired of it. Tired of the waste it generates, time it consumes, and the cost. So far my '20 MYP (22K mi) has required zero service other than replacing the carbon trim that was slowly becoming detached and the rear hatch had to be realigned (would not longer automatically open/close). Both extremely minor fixes, covered by warranty. I live in northern Vermont, it gets very cold here, January was pretty cold this year. Lots of low single digits and some below zero. The car has always performed well. We use it to go skiing which is about 100 miles round trip. We have two other ICE vehicles that we are going to replace, they very rarely get used since the MYP arrived. Was hoping CT would start prod EOY, but guess that's not gonna happen. Might have to sell my truck and buy another MY in the meantime. Your review was really comprehensive...nice job!!
My KIA petrol car has had zero faults in its 29,000 miles from new.
Lol any new car will be trouble free for most of is life unless you buy the first year of a new model or get a lemon which can happen to any car manufacturer
Question for you - what's the advertised range for your Tesla, and what's the range you usually got back in January with the very cold weather?
@@IanSfirebirdflame Advertised was 310mi I think. Highway range I'd say is 200mi in the very cold, there's also decent elevation change where I live. Less than highway speeds you'll get more range. I'm not trying to set records so my highway speed is between 75 - 80. Supercharger network has been awesome. I don't do what the car tells me to as far as charging. I have my own strategy that I prefer. I arrive super low, my best was 1% SOC, but typical is 5%, winter time I'm more conservative, aim for 10% (I'm talking road trip charging). Get awesome charging performance. Less waiting, more driving. I installed a 240V 50A outlet at my in-laws who live 300 miles away. We make one stop for 15 minutes to super charge and really don't even need that long. Plug in when I get to their place. It's great! Anyway, happy to share my experience if you have any other questions.
@@johnleeuw3022 Thank you so much for that info! A family member of mine is possibly considering a M3, and cold weather performance was the biggest drawback.
Andy, loved the snapshot of you / your car and the 100K. It really caught my eye. Your coverage of this topic was great as to how solidly Teslas are built. 👍👍👍
Great video especially when comparing the cost of gas.
Hey! Great video! I was already feeling great about my recent model Y purchase. This really help me put it in perspective as I start making payments. Keep doing what you're doing! I really enjoy the content.
Awesome video Andy! Thanks for sharing all that experience. I am on my 2nd Model 3 in the last two years, was lucky to exchange it for 0 cost to a now 21 model. But I love driving it and friends have had the same experience as you had. Sadly, here in Germany, we are really really lucky if we can charge below 25 Euro cents...on the road it is more like 50, at superchargers as well. So the actual driving cost here comes close to a gas car. And... With all the energy price hikes here... We will see what 22 brings. Hugs to Kentucky! Been there, love it 🤗
Nice non-clickbait honest video, there is too much fake news surrounding Tesla so it's so satisfying when the real facts are on the table.