Ya, dont be fooled you spent more money fixing crap than my 160k 2014 honda crv LX FWD. The k24/2.4 liter is a 1 million mile motor. There is a guy with his original transmission/motor with a 2007 honda crv with k24 engine and 1 million miles. There is no ev on the planet that has made it to 1 million with the original motor/traction battery.
We have 64K miles on our 2018 M3 Mid Range. First set of tires was replaced at 43K miles. Battery is at 90% of original capacity. Control arms have started creaking in cold weather, but a shot of grease shuts them up. Otherwise, no significant problems whatsoever. My only complaint is road noise, which is really pronounced on coarse pavement at highway speeds. Conversely, the car is whisper-quiet in most other circumstances. After nearly six years, it looks great inside and out, and drives as new. Easily the best car I’ve owned in my almost 50 years of driving.
Damn, that's a hell of a statement at the end. After 50 years of driving. I've been driving for 18 years and I'm honestly seriously thinking of buying a tesla. Thank you for your post.
@@mannycub98 I previously owned 3 bmw 5s and I enjoy my Tesla model Y at least as much for driving. It’s faster than 99% of other vehicles, not counting teslas, and it’s incredibly smooth and handles beautifully. Add the screen, AI hardware, and FSD (subscription) and it IS the best car I have owned. It’s not luxurious inside, but who really needs leather or other miscellaneous premium details? I charge at home and with just a wall outlet I can add 60 miles of range overnight. I have done several long trips of over 4,000 miles round trip with no issues. I love it. 😎
I have the exact same car with the same mileage. Decided to test drive the new model 3 a couple days ago. Seriously considering upgrading due to wind noise / suspension. Being able to transfer FSD also makes it very tempting. After watching your video I might just keep mine too.
@@harveypaxton1232I'll argue that point. I went from a 2023 M3P to a 2024 M3P and the NVH difference is huge. People that ride with me every few weeks commented on how much quiter my new one is at highway speeds.
Awesome, my model 3 also has 150,000 miles on it and still works perfectly. Full charge gets me 290 miles, more than enough to do what I need. These cars are seriously underrated and lasting far longer than anyone expected in my opinion.
I’m no mathematician so I used chat gpt to see what the savings would be “1. Electric Vehicle (EV) Costs: • Electricity Rate: Assuming $0.15 per kWh. • EV Efficiency: Assuming 4 miles per kWh. EV Cost Calculation: \text{Energy needed} = \frac{150,000 \text{ miles}}{4 \text{ miles/kWh}} = 37,500 \text{ kWh} \text{Total EV cost} = 37,500 \text{ kWh} \times 0.15 \text{ dollars/kWh} = 5,625 \text{ dollars} So, the cost to drive 150,000 miles with an EV would be $5,625. 2. Modern Honda Civic Costs: • Gas Price: Assuming $3.50 per gallon. • Fuel Efficiency: A modern Honda Civic averages around 36 miles per gallon (MPG) combined. Civic Cost Calculation: \text{Gas needed} = \frac{150,000 \text{ miles}}{36 \text{ MPG}} = 4,167 \text{ gallons} \text{Total Civic cost} = 4,167 \text{ gallons} \times 3.50 \text{ dollars/gallon} = 14,584.5 \text{ dollars} So, the cost to drive 150,000 miles with a modern Honda Civic would be $14,584.50. 3. Cost Difference Over 150,000 Miles: \text{Savings} = 14,584.5 - 5,625 = 8,959.5 \text{ dollars} Conclusion: Over 150,000 miles, you would save approximately $8,959.50 by driving an EV compared to a modern Honda Civic, assuming the specified costs of electricity and gas, and the respective vehicle efficiencies.”
I'm 5 years in and 73k miles on my 2019 Model 3 long range. I just put my 3rd set of tires on for under $700, have only added washer fluid once. Had the 12v battery replaced just past 4 years old and replaced the cabin filter about 2 years or so in. The car is totally amazing, I want to drive it to the end of the battery life to see how far it will go.
Just hit 200k km. 4 upper control arms and 1 LF bearing. On my 3rd set of tires recently. No fluid changes yet. Battery degradation 92%. Ingenext boost sr at 110000km
@@robertbourke8618I recommend doing it at 150k, but many people mistakenly believe that an electric drive unit never needs an oil change, which is not true. You can get it done at any third-party mechanic, as oil changes are quite simple. If you have AWD, the rear drive unit almost always has black oil, while the front drive units oil is usually in much better shape.
Well done for not selling - many of us bought TM3 because of you. I don't have any regrets whatsoever, and very happy that you are making these videos which reinforces satisfaction that we have many years ahead to enjoy our purchase. Thank you and keep up the good work
We're at 75,000 miles on our 2022 model 3 rwd LFP. It's been amazing. Just got back from a 3,000 mile road trip, averaged 70 miles / hour including charging stops. Removed the rear seat bottom cushion and we slept in the car at KOA on the way down. Perfect experience. Total cost for 3,000 miles was $235
You can prevent curb rash by running wider tires. OE tire spec is really narrow (more efficient) so running 10mm wider tires will give you a sidewall buffer before the curb hits your rims.
Just bought a 2020 with 23K miles. We paid $11,700 plus a 2015 Honda Fit in trade, after the $4K gov incentive and all taxes and fees. High depreciation is just another benefit if you buy used.
One thing you didn’t mention Andy was brakes. I’ve got a ‘16 MX P90D with 300k miles and I haven’t needed brakes but I think I’ll have them replaced anyway soon. A huge expense on an ICE car, doing them at least twice in that 150 thousand miles. The fabulous part of regenerative breaking.
We have 2 Model X P100s- 140k miles on one, 100k on the other. Amazing vehicles that have been almost perfect. Lowest cost maintenance of anything we’ve ever owned. Looking to buy a 3rd for our college bound kid.
How many years of driving got you there? I use my M3 for Lyft and I’m at 26k miles, but I bought it with 20k miles & I just started doing Lyft a month ago. So far, the car runs well and I’ve had no issue.
Great video and congrats on making it past 150K miles! I have this exact configuration of the Model 3, including the color, so this video is very encouraging to see. I bought mine used with FSD from Tesla last year and realize I got a steal lol. My control alarms and suspension links literally just got replaced as well, which happened at around 61Kmiles, so I’m glad to see the price you paid is around what I had to pay as well. That’s the only repair needed so far. Seeing this video has encouraged me that, with continuing to take care of the car, that I can get well over 150K miles on it.
The paint chips in the rear side of the vehicle is because you had no mud guards/splash guards and unless you drove the entire 150,000 at 25 mph, trust me there's definitely paint chips underneath the vehicle due to lack of mud flaps/splash guards. I learned this after just a few months and a few thousand miles.
Dang you got me beat, I've put on 148,000 on my red model 3 RWD LR I also have PPF on my entire car too lol I did the chrome delete, it's worth it for sure! Never replaced washer fluid?! That's crazy, I'm guessing it's been replaced by Tesla if you ever brought it in for service or something. I've replaced mine at least 5 times
I’ve had my 2019 RWD Model 3 for almost 5.5 years, only 41k miles, and experienced about 8% range loss. No significant issues or service at all. I’ve driven many cars, and Teslas are the best by far.
I like the idea of the EV and would love to own one. Being retired and seldom driving long distances would make it almost perfect. However... I generally only buy gas once a month like I did yesterday, it was $49.00 and almost 1 month exactly. Being retired means I have almost no tax liability, thus the $7500 tax credit doesn't do me any good, and I would be paying full price for a car. Then add in another thousand or so for a level 2 charger. I checked with my USAA insurance and it would be almost triple the cost of my current ICE car. Thus, the added costs of EV ownership would likely never be offset by savings over buying gas and routine maintenance. I'm in Arizona and the infrastructure just isn't that good yet. Living just outside of Phoenix, the nearest supercharger is about a 30 minute drive and it gets worse farther out of the metro areas.
Very impressive, but once again I want to call attention to the fact that the starting range for your car wasn't 310 miles, but 325 miles, as Tesla issued a software update to reflect this sometime after you bought the car. Going from 325 miles or range to 280 miles of range is actually a loss of about 45 miles, or about 14%....which lines up pretty closely with what the Tesla battery test indicated....and the average degradation for the "herd". Looking forward to the 200k report!
My 2018 LR-RWD never got that update to 325, that bump was always a little suspect... not sure if just BMS or what... and mine is also about 290mi now after 6yrs/50k... I haven't done the battery health test, but have done a couple down below 10% then full 100% cycles...
Yes, but that 325 was EPA estimated range, and Tesla's range estimates are very optimistic. They were even more so in 2018. Real world range of 280 or 290 is still very impressive.
@@jamespaul2587 but it is not real world 280 to 290, watch the video again as seconds after that estimate is the real world range of 171 to 254 I love my M3 but this guy glosses over issues and talks around some important shortcomings
I have about t0k miles on my 3 and the aero caps and aftermarket styling covers ive had have completely destroyed my wheels. Im never getting an aero cover tesla again. Wheel covers on alloy wheels is a horrible idea.
I think the car estimates range based on your driving habits because mine never said the range was 315 even when new. Mine has always been about what yours is as well the whole time and hasn't ever changed.
You saved a lot more money then you realize. You didn't had to change spark plug, Differential Oil, engine belt, oil filter, Petroleum filter in the tank, less break changes thanks to regen brakes, radiator fluid, and 10 more things. Not to mention as you use the car over time you have lot of wear and tear in the piston rings which causes you to lose some horsepower. With Tesla thanks to the software update, you gain more horsepower and efficiency over time. Modern Tesla cars have hairpin motor and better lithium ion graphite battery. Which means your battery will last longer and your motor will give you a lot more horsepower and last longer. And with hardware 4 It can identify things further away.
If you buy a Tesla, then drive it until it turns to dust, only Tesla owners understand its true value. They are severely under appreciated in the used market.
@@jstar1000this. Used model 3 is the best car you could buy. People are clueless “EVs are too expensive ! And they catch fire and unreliable” just non sense. 110k miles I’ve had only new tires that’s it. Nothing else. No oil changes, no timing belt
@@double_joseph327 Just wait, the $15,000 battery bill is coming...........just like it has for some of the 2012 Model S owners. Tesla owners love to talk how they went so long without paying for anything, but when they do it's going to be expensive. I really like Tesla, and everyone is rightfully positive about them but they will have a large drawback at the end. Not to even mention the shit resale value compared to Japanese vehicles.
@@philipf2705 sure lol you realize there’s a Tesla fleet service doing LA to Vegas and putting 500k plus miles on their teslas with close to zero maintenance? Google it. Don’t forget your transmission going out and I’ve already saved over 3 grand on oil changes and over 3 grand a year on a gas. But keep talking about the battery. You are talking about 12 year old vehicles …. A gas car in 12 years will spend more then Tesla 100% even with the battery replacement
I just put 100k miles on my 2020 Model Y, so doing about 25k miles a year, roughly double what the average driver in the US does. Had the control arms replaced under warranty at 49k miles, and other than that, only repairs I had to do out of pocket was a new 12v battery for $128 a few weeks ago which the mobile tech did right at my workplace parking lot. The other major repair I've had to do was to fix a front air louver due to a piece of wood knocking a wire out and corroding it. Cost around $700. The only thing I noticed was the fans would scream at superchargers, but it otherwise charged fine. Last time I ran the battery health test in January 2024 it said I had about 85% health left. I was able to pull about 63 kWh out of it and drive it around 267 miles on a recent 65-70 mph test on the freeway. I also noticed I stopped caring about the absolute range on a charge when doing road trips, and being more interested in how fast I can get in and out of superchargers instead. I generally drive 1 and a half to 3 hours, and then add more superchargers along the way to minimize how long I have to stay at them, averaging 10-20 minutes vs the 30-40 the car usually wants me to do.
One thing people often forget is that while the battery range reduces slightly with time, the charging infrastructure and software improve, meaning the overall experience gets better, not worse. My Model 3 is better now than when I got it.
This is great. Mine was a 2018 log range rail wheel drive white with 175,000 miles on it but it was totaled back in January now I have a 2018 long range all-wheel-drive and it has 78,000 miles on it and purchased with 50 K miles on it
@@jstar1000 the new three is definitely tempting all model threes are very reliable but if you want the best one get the real wheel drive long range absolutely bulletproof. I only had 10% battery which is crazy if I had to do it all over again I would.
Thank you for sharing I am divided on a new one due to the federal tax credit but given on how reliable they are maybe a 3-5 year old one would make sense. Are you familiar with the LFP batteries? Wondering if I should stick to those.
@@speedbird7976 yes the lfp batteries can charge to 100% daily while the LR or performance charge to 80 or 90% for daily use but if you get a used one for 25,000 or less, you can get a 4000 used EV tax credit
I plan on getting my first Tesla in 2025. Going for a 2021+ Model 3/Y LR for around $21,000-23,000. The LR rwd is very enticing in the next 4-6 years for an upgraded daily. Once they depreciate it’ll be the same situation finding ones under that $25,000 ev tax credit is amazing for second hand buyers.
One of my Teslas is a 2018 Model 3 Long Range Rear Wheel Drive. It has 126,051 miles on it. Though this was the early edition with single-pane window, we are still very happy with it. The max that I can charge on it is now 275 miles which isn't bad considering it is already 6 years old. In terms of maintenance, I change the air filters once every 7 to 8 months. The 12-volt battery was replaced once in 2021 for about $120. The panels on the side of the driver and passenger seats are falling apart, more cosmetics than functional. That's pretty much all I had spent for maintenance. Now we have 4 of them (3 Y's and one 3's).
Always enjoy your videos. With numbers like that it's no wonder why the Model 3 is so popular. The depreciation may be bad, but the fact I don't have to buy gas anymore is a huge incentive. I live in California. $3.92 per gallon at Costco, $4.39 at Shell for regular. Please, take it easy on the road.
Just purchased a 2021 long range AWD Model 3 and we love it. Seeing videos like this make me feel very confident about our purchase. Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts.
I've never had to replace the control arms on any vehicle I've owned even our 250,000km X-Trail 4x4, and it was only when we bought our Model Y did I discover that its a common issue across all the Tesla range. Some owners here in NZ have had to replace them in as little as 60,000km.
I have a 2006 Acura tsx with 210k miles on it. Never had to replace control arms. Ive never had to replace them on any other car I've owned and never heard my friends replacing it on their cars either.
2016 Model S owner here. Bought the car with 42K miles, 3 years in I’m at 167K miles. Over half of my charging has been with Superchargers. Tesla’s hold up extremely well for those that drive more than average. Not perfect, but still great. Thank you for bringing this to light!
I've just bought a 2nd hand 2021 long range Tesla Model 3 and videos like this really help me confirm I've made the correct decision. The purchase was driven coming from a 2018 Mercedes C-class with only 30k miles on the clock, which although lovely started to really mount up on servicing costs and maintenance, I want a car that is reliable and will not get more and more expensive as time goes on. Model 3 it is :)
Pretty much exactly like mine. Almost 6 years, and the only repair (out of pocket) was the control arms at the same price point. The white interior has held up remarkably well. Not worried about depreciation because I intend to keep the car until it falls apart.
Save money. There is no need to change the windshield washer fluid. It contains alcohol, which is a preservative, so it will last a very long time. Just add washer fluid if the reservoir is low. ;-)
Have you never changed rear drive unit oil? It is advisable every 40k miles or so (tesla does not tell you to do that and replaces the drive unit under warranty even if you don't, BUT take notice on that if you want the drive unit to not fail in the long run).
Side Bar; this is also a requirement for this writers 2019 Kia Niro BEV, and Kia tells you to change it in the handbook. And more surprise, its an easy DIY job for even a novice mechanic DIY sort of owner. And its further curious that Tesla does not state it. Rather like the ICE cars that tell the owners NEVER replace the transmission fluid-we want your money to replace the transmission when it fails. Many will not the LACK of a dipstick to check the trans, fluid on MANY ICE cars, for that reason
Thank you for these long term ownership reviews. Your ownership experience led me to purchase my 2023 M3 RWD and I couldn’t be happier. 30k miles in and I’ve loved every mile.
I thought the same. I think someone could buy a new car today and never do it ever simply by using FSD 99%+ of the time and then washing the car back at home... which for sure, some people will do more and more as time goes forward haha
The reason your depreciation has been so extreme is because of price cuts on new Tesla vehicles. Those buying a new Tesla today shouldn’t experience as much depreciation (although the next-gen platform could affect that).
Deprecation sucks, but I don't plan on getting rid of my Tesla. If you don't plan on trading in/selling your Tesla and just want to keep it until the wheels fall off, then you shouldn't have to worry about depreciation.
Great vid, thanks so much for sharing. I love my model 3 and I think for all the reasons you stated its a no brainer to be a Tesla owner. 150k miles, amazing.
I still love the Chrome trim. Guess I'm old school. I miss my 18 Model 3. Traded it last year for a 23 Model Y. I took advantage of the FSD transfer and the gov tax credit. Great deal and put the car back under factory warranty.
@aslye Have an OG 17 100DS - still running like a bear after a 9000 mile trip about the US. Sad about the values taking a dip, but our cars are paid for. Repairs for me were minimal while the warranty was in effect. I bought mine used from Tesla with 41k back in 2020 - came with FSD. Did upgrade to MCU2. The battery and drivetrain warranty are good till Nov of 25, so I have some catching up do. My range at 80% SOC before our trip was 252 miles- after supercharging for our entire cross country trip, it's now down to 249. When motoring at 85 - 90, there's some wind intrusion around the delta window, so I just turn up the radio. lol Car now has a Recurrent range score of 91 with 92,259 miles. If you have a car with RWD, expect more life out of your tires, esp with an EV. That's go to be the biggest recurring expense with a dual motor car. I found the Michelin Cross Climate 2's to be wearing perfectly. After a rotation at Discount Tire in Las Vegas in June, and another rotation upon returning to Pittsburgh, PA a few weeks ago, I'm down to 8/32. It did rain when when we stopped by the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green...Continue to drive it like you stole it. Discreetly
However, doesn't Tesla have an App Store? as so you can choose, for example, the Radio app. or if for example you want a streaming app that is not Spotify or Apple music or Tidal on my Android TV Box, Tunein doesn't actually have as good a sound as another radio app for some reason
Great report Andy. I'm looking forward to seeing how my Mach-e compares at 150K. BTW, It's been a while since I've watched one of your videos. You've obviously spent time in the gym in the meantime. Good job 👍.
My mother bought a model y in 2020 its currently at 135,000 miles and its been pretty reliable considering as soon as i hit those mileages in my gas car thats when they need major maintenance
Hi Andy, Thanks for Sharing. Our Red April 3rd, 2018 M3 has 92,000 and my experience mirrors yours. My upper control arms were making noises a few months and the cost at the Michigan Clarkston Tesla Service center cost $311. Tire replacement costs were about the same as yours. At 84, I am not in a rush and don't corner or accelerate hard so the tires will last longer. We have used Discount Tire for years and tire rotations and balancing is free. I also use very Wiper fluid. It is hard to understand why so many drivers shy away from EV's when they are so easy to drive and the Safest car on the road had much less likely to have an accident of Full Self Driving {FSD). I am still waiting to get beyond Version 12.3. How about you? I was thinking of Calling her "Hal", but being Multicoat Red, our California Daughter & Wife said she was too beautiful for that & named her "Ruby". We taken her to Florida for the Winters, so very little signs of rust. I had Ruby's entire Body & Glass Ceramic Coated early on at a Chevy Dealer here in Flint. Even the Wiper blades as original. I wonder if the slickness of the coating makes blades last longer? Would you please share the link on measuring Remaining range and a list of options you have purchased.
On depreciation how much would a BMW 6 years old with 150,000 miles have depreciated. I used CARFAX and found 5 Series 530i which had MSRP of $50,000 miles with 117,000 miles and it was selling for less than $15,000 All premium priced cars suffer premium class depreciation.
My 2019 Model 3 Performance has been surprisingly problematic around the suspension. Have spent over £5k on suspension and steering issues out of warranty. I’m certain these issues were there whilst in warranty but Tesla refused to acknowledge them then but become super attentive to everything once I had to pay. Disappointing with the servicing, ride and build quality. Good performance and handling.
2021 M3 LR AWD. 100 000 km. Just one minor fix. Original tyres are still showing little wear. It seems I'll have to replace them due to age, not because of wear. Braking pads and disks are as new. Very impressed with this car, never driven better in my 30 years driving experience. It brings me pleasant surprises from time to time, the last one was software update, after which automatic high beam became segmented!
Loved My 2022 Model Y and did not regretted getting it. Got a full PPF for the entire car just liked Andy said. We are all looking for long terms rather than just short terms. I’m fully invested into my vehicle and planning to put a lot of miles on it.
At that rate you'll be getting a new car every 2-3 years! That's some serious miles. I only have 19,000 miles on my 2023 Model Y LR (March build, Fremont)
@@burnx45 LFP battery should go 500,00 without breaking a sweat. At this rate, even gas cars can hit half a million, but the model 3 STD range will get that all day long!
Very informative and extremely helpful, Andy! And you're a fellow Kentuckian! Looking to purchase a 2021 M3 myself here soon and I can't stop hearing good things everywhere I look!
Good review - people really underappreciate and under report the need for almost no maintenance. I've driven my Model 3 for 70K miles and recently switched it out for Model Y, Model Y is a much more comfortable car to drive.
I wonder if the high depreciation of EVs will start going away once the public realizes that they have far more useable life left than an ICE car at comparable mileage. The Leaf and other early EVs have done damage to the public perception, but as these later gen EVs (2018-now) start aging, I think that image will reverse and potentially EVs will be known to hold value better than an ICE car
I think you're absolutely right. The reason these cars aren't holding their value is the publics false beliefs about EVs. I think there are people out there assuming an electric vehicle will fail them like their cheap Ryobi leaf blower or something
My model 3 with 100k kms has needed: Both rear knuckles replaced Front lower control arms (did it myself) Upper control arms Headrest replaced due to bubbling
I can’t believe you never added windshield wiper fluid or replaced your blades!!! That’s insane. I saw how you stood on your roof and tried the same & got an instant crack. I would NOT recommend standing on there to anyone. 😂
I'm not sure what cars need new control arms at 100k lol... the fsd is awesome and battery replacement seems okay. the new model 3s updated suspension probably addresses a lot of these issues. wait did you say bushings? ahhh ball joint reseal... yeah, that's not normal. but at least they did a recall.
I have a 2019 long range dual motor with almost 90 k mi . I purchased it used during the pandemic and did get gouged due to the shortage. Love my car but mi milage range is dipping fast. When I purchased it there were 10k on it. It would give me 288 range at 100% its now only giving me 248
Great review! Makes me feel better about having just ordered a M3 LR RWD. I was considering a Corolla or Prius given their reliability track record and was a little unsure about the longevity of the Tesla in comparison. But, this shows they are reliable cars that can be trusted for a long time
Just so much fud out there about Tesla's or Ev's in general. Great car, engineered beyond belief. FSD is a game changer. Quality is on par with all mass-produced cars now. Thanks, for the update. And thanks to Elon for making, it a reality!
Fun fact, I have Tesla Energy for my home and I get free unlimited overnight charging on my Tesla which is paid for so other then insurance and tires every couple of years or so I drive for free now.
Nearly every car needs control arms at 100k miles? You must mean every Tesla. I have never replaced a control arm or link, and that includes my 290k Maxima and my 130k Mazda3. That said, great report on the car. Shows how well engineered they are. Not only solid mechanicals and battery life, but your screen is also100% more responsive than my 4 year old tablet has become, the over the air updates are brilliant.
lol trust me as a full time technician, if you have never replaced your control arms on multiple 100+k mile vehicles. They are shot and you are just use to it and don’t notice. Same goes for motor mounts
Great review! Been watching your Tesla videos since before I got my model 3 back in June of 2021! You even gave me a recommendation on where to eat once when I drove through Kentucky! Mine is a little over three years old and I have already passed 100k miles! Good to see yours is holding up!
Re-sale value only matters if you sell. I'm not selling because I drive it for free now, why on earth would I give that up? Anyone who is looking to buy a used vehicle and can charge at home or at work would be a total fool not to buy a used Tesla in my opinion.
Oh boy, this video was phenomenally made. I wish my car fared the same as yours, I've just hit 99000 miles and somehow am on my THIRD battery, I cannot explain to you how or why 😭😭, my drivers side door hates to open but other than that I love my car sm, it's given me some trouble but my newest Battery was acrually an upgraded battery and even though my car is slower now, I have to say the new battery after 10k miles has given me zero priblems so im praying i can make it to 150k like you man! (19 sr+ model 3)
Hi Andy, I was on my news feed and they had an article about your story regarding your Tesla, the article tbh wasn't the best as there were quite a few mistakes i.e age of the car and mileage. So after reading it I thought ild watch a few of your videos and see for myself. I'll agree Tesla is a great brand and love the cars Elon has created (only thing I'm not liking is he likes to show what is in R&D and either not make it or takes 6/10 years to come out now) Anyway what I wanted to bring up is a main flaw that we have in the UK.... You have said that it cost $0.11 per kWh to charge, in the Uk the minimum household is $0.70 (£0.52) kWh and almost double that at a supermarket charger. If my calculations are correct for 38,000 miles of drive range for you that works out roughly $4180 Here the minimum it would cost is $26,600 and that's the minimum price in the UK. So for the USA electric is the way forward but here it costs 5 times as much to run, let alone the price of a new Tesla is much more expensive too.... There seems to be no pros to owning one here
Great review and update Andy, thanks! I still refer people to your Ultimate guide for the UI/features, though those get stale w/ major updates :) My 2018 LR-RWD is 6yrs old also, but only 50k... I'm still on hw2.5.. how has yours been on HW3? Any phantom braking on recent AP/FSD updates? I'm worried about losing the radar on upgrade and getting phantom brake events... I've only had a handful ever so far. I don't think HW3 will give me much advantage, beyond sub to FSD, and green light chime? W/ Atom CPU, we can't get the great high-def park assist, zoom etc... did you see other benefits? Did you lose any data/history/preferences, when they upgraded the computer? driving profiles, song favorites etc? PS also did you get new side repeater cameras? Mine are still the old ones w/ light bleed at night from turn signal, might get those updated, but not sure worth $$.. My upper control arms seem ok so far (knock wood), but.. my suspension seems to have gotten noticeably firmer/harsher, so I'm getting some 3rd party adjustable shocks installed... oddly, we got used 2023 RWD 3, and its suspension is a lot nicer? Not nearly as good as the to-drool for Highland Model 3, but... I can't justify such a pricey upgrade, when the 2018 is so good. Keep on driving & reviewing, thanks!
Just seen your video from 1 year ago where your battery health test said 7%. Was that a false result or did you replace the battery? I'd love to know as I am looking at a 100k mile used model 3.Thanks!
THANK YOU for mentioning the tires! I got the performance version. I have 24K miles and I am on my 3rd set of tires. $2000 each set of Michelin. Looks like I am changing my rims in the next 30 days and getting some Vredestein tires.
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Ya, dont be fooled you spent more money fixing crap than my 160k 2014 honda crv LX FWD. The k24/2.4 liter is a 1 million mile motor. There is a guy with his original transmission/motor with a 2007 honda crv with k24 engine and 1 million miles. There is no ev on the planet that has made it to 1 million with the original motor/traction battery.
these are panasonic battery.
very different from some chinese battery tesla currently use,
This is what I like to see. The long lifecycle of the car. I want to know the car will last and I don’t need a new car every other year. Thank you.
Meeeeeee toooooo
My 2015 model s has 225k original battery and dual motors. Amazing car
Yes, talk of resale value is pointless. These things will last for a million miles.
@@matthewp1682should be able to double those miles
@@coreym5072 hope so. Been an amazing car and any issues that come up I will fix them to keep it running
We have 64K miles on our 2018 M3 Mid Range. First set of tires was replaced at 43K miles. Battery is at 90% of original capacity. Control arms have started creaking in cold weather, but a shot of grease shuts them up. Otherwise, no significant problems whatsoever. My only complaint is road noise, which is really pronounced on coarse pavement at highway speeds. Conversely, the car is whisper-quiet in most other circumstances. After nearly six years, it looks great inside and out, and drives as new. Easily the best car I’ve owned in my almost 50 years of driving.
Damn, that's a hell of a statement at the end. After 50 years of driving. I've been driving for 18 years and I'm honestly seriously thinking of buying a tesla. Thank you for your post.
@@mannycub98 I previously owned 3 bmw 5s and I enjoy my Tesla model Y at least as much for driving. It’s faster than 99% of other vehicles, not counting teslas, and it’s incredibly smooth and handles beautifully. Add the screen, AI hardware, and FSD (subscription) and it IS the best car I have owned.
It’s not luxurious inside, but who really needs leather or other miscellaneous premium details?
I charge at home and with just a wall outlet I can add 60 miles of range overnight.
I have done several long trips of over 4,000 miles round trip with no issues.
I love it. 😎
That seems to be quite high battery degradation for that mileage….
Have you looked at any other door seals to help with road noise or is it the matting they use?
@@stephencrowther524 Most of the battery degradation happens very early on, and then it slows down. It also depends on how well you treat the battery.
Imagine blaming the car for the curb rash
Facts😆😂😂😂
😂😂 Had to laugh when she said that
NOO doubt!
Can't the cameras or sensors show the distance to the curb so you can prevent curb rash?
The rims are obviously way too wide for the tires they are spec'ing.
I have the exact same car with the same mileage. Decided to test drive the new model 3 a couple days ago. Seriously considering upgrading due to wind noise / suspension. Being able to transfer FSD also makes it very tempting. After watching your video I might just keep mine too.
I test drove the new 2024 and it has the same wind noise as my 2022. Not sure if its worth upgrading.
@@harveypaxton1232 the 2022 has double pane windows, or at least mine does. So the sound is not that different, if basing it off of the windows alone.
@@harveypaxton1232I'll argue that point. I went from a 2023 M3P to a 2024 M3P and the NVH difference is huge. People that ride with me every few weeks commented on how much quiter my new one is at highway speeds.
@@ericn3221 if it works for you.
@@ericn3221 I’m sure that’s why all the new owners are adding the aftermarket weatherstripping and noise reduction kits?
Awesome, my model 3 also has 150,000 miles on it and still works perfectly. Full charge gets me 290 miles, more than enough to do what I need. These cars are seriously underrated and lasting far longer than anyone expected in my opinion.
how much cost have you saved in gas
I’m no mathematician so I used chat gpt to see what the savings would be
“1. Electric Vehicle (EV) Costs:
• Electricity Rate: Assuming $0.15 per kWh.
• EV Efficiency: Assuming 4 miles per kWh.
EV Cost Calculation:
\text{Energy needed} = \frac{150,000 \text{ miles}}{4 \text{ miles/kWh}} = 37,500 \text{ kWh}
\text{Total EV cost} = 37,500 \text{ kWh} \times 0.15 \text{ dollars/kWh} = 5,625 \text{ dollars}
So, the cost to drive 150,000 miles with an EV would be $5,625.
2. Modern Honda Civic Costs:
• Gas Price: Assuming $3.50 per gallon.
• Fuel Efficiency: A modern Honda Civic averages around 36 miles per gallon (MPG) combined.
Civic Cost Calculation:
\text{Gas needed} = \frac{150,000 \text{ miles}}{36 \text{ MPG}} = 4,167 \text{ gallons}
\text{Total Civic cost} = 4,167 \text{ gallons} \times 3.50 \text{ dollars/gallon} = 14,584.5 \text{ dollars}
So, the cost to drive 150,000 miles with a modern Honda Civic would be $14,584.50.
3. Cost Difference Over 150,000 Miles:
\text{Savings} = 14,584.5 - 5,625 = 8,959.5 \text{ dollars}
Conclusion:
Over 150,000 miles, you would save approximately $8,959.50 by driving an EV compared to a modern Honda Civic, assuming the specified costs of electricity and gas, and the respective vehicle efficiencies.”
Any regrets? Thinking of jumping ship on my Mercedes for a S since I'm worried about mechanical things.
6 years is a long time now? 😂
@@ovid4honestly? yes, considering all of the doom and gloom the anti ev cult spits out
I'm 5 years in and 73k miles on my 2019 Model 3 long range. I just put my 3rd set of tires on for under $700, have only added washer fluid once. Had the 12v battery replaced just past 4 years old and replaced the cabin filter about 2 years or so in. The car is totally amazing, I want to drive it to the end of the battery life to see how far it will go.
what kind of tires did you get and where? ty!!
Is car insurance more on EV’s? I heard it is.
@@billbradley2480 not much $200 a year maybe
So no aircondition service ?
@@waskus I did clean it myself with some foam spray then added a new cabin filter.
Just hit 200k km. 4 upper control arms and 1 LF bearing. On my 3rd set of tires recently. No fluid changes yet. Battery degradation 92%. Ingenext boost sr at 110000km
You should change the oil from the rear driveunit after 200k will never pop out on screen but the oil gets pretty dark at 200k.
@@OZA- ah thank you. I will make an appointment through the app right now
@@OZA-should I wait for 200k or is that good?
@@robertbourke8618I recommend doing it at 150k, but many people mistakenly believe that an electric drive unit never needs an oil change, which is not true. You can get it done at any third-party mechanic, as oil changes are quite simple.
If you have AWD, the rear drive unit almost always has black oil, while the front drive units oil is usually in much better shape.
Plot twist: the wife has been maintaining the wiper blades and adding fluid for 6 years.
Or possibly the Butler.. :)
It's incredible!!
Well done for not selling - many of us bought TM3 because of you. I don't have any regrets whatsoever, and very happy that you are making these videos which reinforces satisfaction that we have many years ahead to enjoy our purchase. Thank you and keep up the good work
Lesson:
Buy a depreciated 2yo Tesla and keep it until the battery warranty is about to expire....
I think you right! This should be the way to go
What’s a limit on buying a used Tesla miles wise because I’ve been seeing used teslas with 100k miles on it
I would buy the Tesla when the battery warranty has expired. Because the price would reflect that warranty status. Cheap drive!
We're at 75,000 miles on our 2022 model 3 rwd LFP. It's been amazing. Just got back from a 3,000 mile road trip, averaged 70 miles / hour including charging stops. Removed the rear seat bottom cushion and we slept in the car at KOA on the way down. Perfect experience. Total cost for 3,000 miles was $235
LFP batteries are currently the best for Teslas
You can prevent curb rash by running wider tires. OE tire spec is really narrow (more efficient) so running 10mm wider tires will give you a sidewall buffer before the curb hits your rims.
You can also avoid by not hitting curbs
You're absolutely right. I had tsportline wheels on my MYP that came with slightly wider tires and those tires saved my wheels many times.
Best cars I have ever owned EVER
Thank you Elon!
MAGA!
Absolutely agree. Got a 2020 M3 DM & 2023 S Plaid. Both magic cars. Both zero defect cars.
Just bought a 2020 with 23K miles. We paid $11,700 plus a 2015 Honda Fit in trade, after the $4K gov incentive and all taxes and fees. High depreciation is just another benefit if you buy used.
One thing you didn’t mention Andy was brakes. I’ve got a ‘16 MX P90D with 300k miles and I haven’t needed brakes but I think I’ll have them replaced anyway soon. A huge expense on an ICE car, doing them at least twice in that 150 thousand miles. The fabulous part of regenerative breaking.
We have 2 Model X P100s- 140k miles on one, 100k on the other. Amazing vehicles that have been almost perfect. Lowest cost maintenance of anything we’ve ever owned. Looking to buy a 3rd for our college bound kid.
180,000 miles Tesla Model Y Performance. One Million Miles here we come!
damn , what are you doing for work, thats a ton of driving?
@@airgunningyup instancart primary but might start Lift in the ghetto of Oakland sounds fun 😎
@@DxMilla instacart pays pretty well , I know Uber sucks , i did it for 6 months back in 2018
How many years of driving got you there? I use my M3 for Lyft and I’m at 26k miles, but I bought it with 20k miles & I just started doing Lyft a month ago. So far, the car runs well and I’ve had no issue.
Until you have to replace the battery pack at more than the cost of the car.
Great video and congrats on making it past 150K miles! I have this exact configuration of the Model 3, including the color, so this video is very encouraging to see. I bought mine used with FSD from Tesla last year and realize I got a steal lol. My control alarms and suspension links literally just got replaced as well, which happened at around 61Kmiles, so I’m glad to see the price you paid is around what I had to pay as well. That’s the only repair needed so far. Seeing this video has encouraged me that, with continuing to take care of the car, that I can get well over 150K miles on it.
The paint chips in the rear side of the vehicle is because you had no mud guards/splash guards and unless you drove the entire 150,000 at 25 mph, trust me there's definitely paint chips underneath the vehicle due to lack of mud flaps/splash guards. I learned this after just a few months and a few thousand miles.
Dang you got me beat, I've put on 148,000 on my red model 3 RWD LR
I also have PPF on my entire car too lol
I did the chrome delete, it's worth it for sure!
Never replaced washer fluid?! That's crazy, I'm guessing it's been replaced by Tesla if you ever brought it in for service or something. I've replaced mine at least 5 times
I only add washer fluid when low. You need to completely replace it?
@@Trust_but_Verify replace and add are the same thing for washer fluid
amazing video. i just bought a used 2019 model 3 LR. it has 190k miles and the battery is also 280 at 100%
how much was it , thats serious mileage ?
@@airgunningyup 13k with tax credit
Taking delivery of the refreshed LR RWD tomorrow! Thanks for the video
What year?
I’ve had my 2019 RWD Model 3 for almost 5.5 years, only 41k miles, and experienced about 8% range loss. No significant issues or service at all. I’ve driven many cars, and Teslas are the best by far.
You don't drive much. My gas engine car, same age at much cheaper price, driven twice as much and has had no issue.
I like the idea of the EV and would love to own one. Being retired and seldom driving long distances would make it almost perfect. However... I generally only buy gas once a month like I did yesterday, it was $49.00 and almost 1 month exactly. Being retired means I have almost no tax liability, thus the $7500 tax credit doesn't do me any good, and I would be paying full price for a car. Then add in another thousand or so for a level 2 charger. I checked with my USAA insurance and it would be almost triple the cost of my current ICE car. Thus, the added costs of EV ownership would likely never be offset by savings over buying gas and routine maintenance. I'm in Arizona and the infrastructure just isn't that good yet. Living just outside of Phoenix, the nearest supercharger is about a 30 minute drive and it gets worse farther out of the metro areas.
Very impressive, but once again I want to call attention to the fact that the starting range for your car wasn't 310 miles, but 325 miles, as Tesla issued a software update to reflect this sometime after you bought the car. Going from 325 miles or range to 280 miles of range is actually a loss of about 45 miles, or about 14%....which lines up pretty closely with what the Tesla battery test indicated....and the average degradation for the "herd". Looking forward to the 200k report!
My 2018 LR-RWD never got that update to 325, that bump was always a little suspect... not sure if just BMS or what... and mine is also about 290mi now after 6yrs/50k... I haven't done the battery health test, but have done a couple down below 10% then full 100% cycles...
Yes, but that 325 was EPA estimated range, and Tesla's range estimates are very optimistic. They were even more so in 2018. Real world range of 280 or 290 is still very impressive.
@@jamespaul2587 but it is not real world 280 to 290, watch the video again as seconds after that estimate is the real world range of 171 to 254
I love my M3 but this guy glosses over issues and talks around some important shortcomings
I have about t0k miles on my 3 and the aero caps and aftermarket styling covers ive had have completely destroyed my wheels. Im never getting an aero cover tesla again. Wheel covers on alloy wheels is a horrible idea.
I think the car estimates range based on your driving habits because mine never said the range was 315 even when new. Mine has always been about what yours is as well the whole time and hasn't ever changed.
You saved a lot more money then you realize. You didn't had to change spark plug, Differential Oil, engine belt, oil filter, Petroleum filter in the tank, less break changes thanks to regen brakes, radiator fluid, and 10 more things. Not to mention as you use the car over time you have lot of wear and tear in the piston rings which causes you to lose some horsepower. With Tesla thanks to the software update, you gain more horsepower and efficiency over time.
Modern Tesla cars have hairpin motor and better lithium ion graphite battery. Which means your battery will last longer and your motor will give you a lot more horsepower and last longer. And with hardware 4 It can identify things further away.
Don't forget to zip up Elon's pants when you are done.
If you buy a Tesla, then drive it until it turns to dust, only Tesla owners understand its true value. They are severely under appreciated in the used market.
And the best buy anyone could ever want in my opinion.
I've been thinking this same thing.
@@jstar1000this. Used model 3 is the best car you could buy. People are clueless “EVs are too expensive ! And they catch fire and unreliable” just non sense. 110k miles I’ve had only new tires that’s it. Nothing else. No oil changes, no timing belt
@@double_joseph327 Just wait, the $15,000 battery bill is coming...........just like it has for some of the 2012 Model S owners. Tesla owners love to talk how they went so long without paying for anything, but when they do it's going to be expensive. I really like Tesla, and everyone is rightfully positive about them but they will have a large drawback at the end. Not to even mention the shit resale value compared to Japanese vehicles.
@@philipf2705 sure lol you realize there’s a Tesla fleet service doing LA to Vegas and putting 500k plus miles on their teslas with close to zero maintenance? Google it. Don’t forget your transmission going out and I’ve already saved over 3 grand on oil changes and over 3 grand a year on a gas. But keep talking about the battery. You are talking about 12 year old vehicles …. A gas car in 12 years will spend more then Tesla 100% even with the battery replacement
I just put 100k miles on my 2020 Model Y, so doing about 25k miles a year, roughly double what the average driver in the US does. Had the control arms replaced under warranty at 49k miles, and other than that, only repairs I had to do out of pocket was a new 12v battery for $128 a few weeks ago which the mobile tech did right at my workplace parking lot.
The other major repair I've had to do was to fix a front air louver due to a piece of wood knocking a wire out and corroding it. Cost around $700. The only thing I noticed was the fans would scream at superchargers, but it otherwise charged fine.
Last time I ran the battery health test in January 2024 it said I had about 85% health left. I was able to pull about 63 kWh out of it and drive it around 267 miles on a recent 65-70 mph test on the freeway.
I also noticed I stopped caring about the absolute range on a charge when doing road trips, and being more interested in how fast I can get in and out of superchargers instead. I generally drive 1 and a half to 3 hours, and then add more superchargers along the way to minimize how long I have to stay at them, averaging 10-20 minutes vs the 30-40 the car usually wants me to do.
One thing people often forget is that while the battery range reduces slightly with time, the charging infrastructure and software improve, meaning the overall experience gets better, not worse. My Model 3 is better now than when I got it.
Have a 2018 also, love the car!
This is great. Mine was a 2018 log range rail wheel drive white with 175,000 miles on it but it was totaled back in January now I have a 2018 long range all-wheel-drive and it has 78,000 miles on it and purchased with 50 K miles on it
So smart, you learned something owning a Tesla now didn't you? I would probably do the same but the new 3 is tempting.
@@jstar1000 the new three is definitely tempting all model threes are very reliable but if you want the best one get the real wheel drive long range absolutely bulletproof. I only had 10% battery which is crazy if I had to do it all over again I would.
@@BIGKickz23 That is what my neighbor just bought but I'm 5 years in on mine and zero issues so not sure how much better it can get then that.
Thank you for sharing I am divided on a new one due to the federal tax credit but given on how reliable they are maybe a 3-5 year old one would make sense. Are you familiar with the LFP batteries? Wondering if I should stick to those.
@@speedbird7976 yes the lfp batteries can charge to 100% daily while the LR or performance charge to 80 or 90% for daily use but if you get a used one for 25,000 or less, you can get a 4000 used EV tax credit
I plan on getting my first Tesla in 2025. Going for a 2021+ Model 3/Y LR for around $21,000-23,000. The LR rwd is very enticing in the next 4-6 years for an upgraded daily. Once they depreciate it’ll be the same situation finding ones under that $25,000 ev tax credit is amazing for second hand buyers.
Can you further explain your last sentence? Does the car have to be under 25k to get the credit?
One of my Teslas is a 2018 Model 3 Long Range Rear Wheel Drive. It has 126,051 miles on it. Though this was the early edition with single-pane window, we are still very happy with it. The max that I can charge on it is now 275 miles which isn't bad considering it is already 6 years old. In terms of maintenance, I change the air filters once every 7 to 8 months. The 12-volt battery was replaced once in 2021 for about $120. The panels on the side of the driver and passenger seats are falling apart, more cosmetics than functional. That's pretty much all I had spent for maintenance. Now we have 4 of them (3 Y's and one 3's).
Awesome! 👏
Always enjoy your videos. With numbers like that it's no wonder why the Model 3 is so popular. The depreciation may be bad, but the fact I don't have to buy gas anymore is a huge incentive. I live in California. $3.92 per gallon at Costco, $4.39 at Shell for regular. Please, take it easy on the road.
How much do you pay for electricity? Do you charge at home?
Just purchased a 2021 long range AWD Model 3 and we love it. Seeing videos like this make me feel very confident about our purchase. Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts.
And it is paid for. The best plus.
i've owned a lot of good cars, but my M3P is just next level.
I've never had to replace the control arms on any vehicle I've owned even our 250,000km X-Trail 4x4, and it was only when we bought our Model Y did I discover that its a common issue across all the Tesla range. Some owners here in NZ have had to replace them in as little as 60,000km.
I have a 2006 Acura tsx with 210k miles on it. Never had to replace control arms. Ive never had to replace them on any other car I've owned and never heard my friends replacing it on their cars either.
2016 Model S owner here. Bought the car with 42K miles, 3 years in I’m at 167K miles. Over half of my charging has been with Superchargers. Tesla’s hold up extremely well for those that drive more than average. Not perfect, but still great. Thank you for bringing this to light!
Love my Model Y Long Range. 3rd year and spent nothing on repairs or maintenance.
As time goes by, these cars are proving to be very durable.
I've just bought a 2nd hand 2021 long range Tesla Model 3 and videos like this really help me confirm I've made the correct decision. The purchase was driven coming from a 2018 Mercedes C-class with only 30k miles on the clock, which although lovely started to really mount up on servicing costs and maintenance, I want a car that is reliable and will not get more and more expensive as time goes on. Model 3 it is :)
Pretty much exactly like mine. Almost 6 years, and the only repair (out of pocket) was the control arms at the same price point. The white interior has held up remarkably well.
Not worried about depreciation because I intend to keep the car until it falls apart.
how the heck have you not added wiper fluid? Did you treat the windshield? (ceramic/RainX)
driving in southern california.
Some people never use it
I’ve had my MY for 2 months and already changed washer fluid once. I couldn’t imagine 6 years.
Never replace the wiper blades?? I dont believe it. Must be always sunny there 😅
Save money. There is no need to change the windshield washer fluid. It contains alcohol, which is a preservative, so it will last a very long time.
Just add washer fluid if the reservoir is low.
;-)
Who is changing washer fluid xddd
@@dvader3263 change, add, replace the low fluid. All the same. Tomato tomAto
Treat every couple months with rainX ... carwash membership... better than wipers...
Have you never changed rear drive unit oil? It is advisable every 40k miles or so (tesla does not tell you to do that and replaces the drive unit under warranty even if you don't, BUT take notice on that if you want the drive unit to not fail in the long run).
Side Bar; this is also a requirement for this writers 2019 Kia Niro BEV, and Kia tells you to change it in the handbook. And more surprise, its an easy DIY job for even a novice mechanic DIY sort of owner. And its further curious that Tesla does not state it. Rather like the ICE cars that tell the owners NEVER replace the transmission fluid-we want your money to replace the transmission when it fails. Many will not the LACK of a dipstick to check the trans, fluid on MANY ICE cars, for that reason
Thank you for these long term ownership reviews. Your ownership experience led me to purchase my 2023 M3 RWD and I couldn’t be happier. 30k miles in and I’ve loved every mile.
You've never replaced the windshield wiper fluid wtf???
He probably washes his car everyday wtf 😂
I thought the same.
I think someone could buy a new car today and never do it ever simply by using FSD 99%+ of the time and then washing the car back at home... which for sure, some people will do more and more as time goes forward haha
Carwash membership - less than $20/mo...
The reason your depreciation has been so extreme is because of price cuts on new Tesla vehicles. Those buying a new Tesla today shouldn’t experience as much depreciation (although the next-gen platform could affect that).
True
Deprecation sucks, but I don't plan on getting rid of my Tesla. If you don't plan on trading in/selling your Tesla and just want to keep it until the wheels fall off, then you shouldn't have to worry about depreciation.
@@AngelTechno or if you lease it.
Great vid, thanks so much for sharing. I love my model 3 and I think for all the reasons you stated its a no brainer to be a Tesla owner. 150k miles, amazing.
I still love the Chrome trim. Guess I'm old school. I miss my 18 Model 3. Traded it last year for a 23 Model Y. I took advantage of the FSD transfer and the gov tax credit. Great deal and put the car back under factory warranty.
Agree. I love the chrome trim on my 2020. M3.
@aslye Have an OG 17 100DS - still running like a bear after a 9000 mile trip about the US. Sad about the values taking a dip, but our cars are paid for. Repairs for me were minimal while the warranty was in effect. I bought mine used from Tesla with 41k back in 2020 - came with FSD. Did upgrade to MCU2. The battery and drivetrain warranty are good till Nov of 25, so I have some catching up do. My range at 80% SOC before our trip was 252 miles- after supercharging for our entire cross country trip, it's now down to 249. When motoring at 85 - 90, there's some wind intrusion around the delta window, so I just turn up the radio. lol Car now has a Recurrent range score of 91 with 92,259 miles. If you have a car with RWD, expect more life out of your tires, esp with an EV. That's go to be the biggest recurring expense with a dual motor car. I found the Michelin Cross Climate 2's to be wearing perfectly. After a rotation at Discount Tire in Las Vegas in June, and another rotation upon returning to Pittsburgh, PA a few weeks ago, I'm down to 8/32. It did rain when when we stopped by the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green...Continue to drive it like you stole it. Discreetly
However, doesn't Tesla have an App Store? as so you can choose, for example, the Radio app. or if for example you want a streaming app that is not Spotify or Apple music or Tidal on my Android TV Box, Tunein doesn't actually have as good a sound as another radio app for some reason
Great report Andy. I'm looking forward to seeing how my Mach-e compares at 150K. BTW, It's been a while since I've watched one of your videos. You've obviously spent time in the gym in the meantime. Good job 👍.
My mother bought a model y in 2020 its currently at 135,000 miles and its been pretty reliable considering as soon as i hit those mileages in my gas car thats when they need major maintenance
Hi Andy, Thanks for Sharing. Our Red April 3rd, 2018 M3 has 92,000 and my experience mirrors yours. My upper control arms were making noises a few months and the cost at the Michigan Clarkston Tesla Service center cost $311. Tire replacement costs were about the same as yours.
At 84, I am not in a rush and don't corner or accelerate hard so the tires will last longer. We have used Discount Tire for years and tire rotations and balancing is free. I also use very Wiper fluid.
It is hard to understand why so many drivers shy away from EV's when they are so easy to drive and the Safest car on the road had much less likely to have an accident of Full Self Driving {FSD). I am still waiting to get beyond Version 12.3. How about you?
I was thinking of Calling her "Hal", but being Multicoat Red, our California Daughter & Wife said she was too beautiful for that & named her "Ruby". We taken her to Florida for the Winters, so very little signs of rust. I had Ruby's entire Body & Glass Ceramic Coated early on at a Chevy Dealer here in Flint. Even the Wiper blades as original. I wonder if the slickness of the coating makes blades last longer?
Would you please share the link on measuring Remaining range and a list of options you have purchased.
On depreciation how much would a BMW 6 years old with 150,000 miles have depreciated. I used CARFAX and found 5 Series 530i which had MSRP of $50,000 miles with 117,000 miles and it was selling for less than $15,000
All premium priced cars suffer premium class depreciation.
Picking my new Highland LRRWD Thursday. Plan to keep it for 8-10years fingers crossed. Thanks for this info!
Good luck!
My 2019 Model 3 Performance has been surprisingly problematic around the suspension. Have spent over £5k on suspension and steering issues out of warranty. I’m certain these issues were there whilst in warranty but Tesla refused to acknowledge them then but become super attentive to everything once I had to pay. Disappointing with the servicing, ride and build quality. Good performance and handling.
Great vid Andy. I've done about 35,000 kms in my '23 Model 3 and haven't spent a cent on servicing. Truely a remarkable car!
2021 M3 LR AWD. 100 000 km. Just one minor fix. Original tyres are still showing little wear. It seems I'll have to replace them due to age, not because of wear. Braking pads and disks are as new. Very impressed with this car, never driven better in my 30 years driving experience. It brings me pleasant surprises from time to time, the last one was software update, after which automatic high beam became segmented!
Congrats on making it to 150,000 miles. I plan to have my Model 3 by the end of October.
Tesla is going to be my next car for sure.
Save your money man. I made that mistake
Loved My 2022 Model Y and did not regretted getting it. Got a full PPF for the entire car just liked Andy said. We are all looking for long terms rather than just short terms. I’m fully invested into my vehicle and planning to put a lot of miles on it.
Your PCS hasn't started to fail? Lucky! 83% SoH is pretty good for 150K miles. At 78K miles when I sold my 2018 RWD Long Range, it was at 94.35%.
I put 90,000 miles on my June 2023 model 3 standard range. I'm way crushing it
At that rate you'll be getting a new car every 2-3 years! That's some serious miles. I only have 19,000 miles on my 2023 Model Y LR (March build, Fremont)
@@burnx45 LFP battery should go 500,00 without breaking a sweat. At this rate, even gas cars can hit half a million, but the model 3 STD range will get that all day long!
Very informative and extremely helpful, Andy! And you're a fellow Kentuckian! Looking to purchase a 2021 M3 myself here soon and I can't stop hearing good things everywhere I look!
Good review - people really underappreciate and under report the need for almost no maintenance. I've driven my Model 3 for 70K miles and recently switched it out for Model Y, Model Y is a much more comfortable car to drive.
I wonder if the high depreciation of EVs will start going away once the public realizes that they have far more useable life left than an ICE car at comparable mileage. The Leaf and other early EVs have done damage to the public perception, but as these later gen EVs (2018-now) start aging, I think that image will reverse and potentially EVs will be known to hold value better than an ICE car
I think you're absolutely right. The reason these cars aren't holding their value is the publics false beliefs about EVs. I think there are people out there assuming an electric vehicle will fail them like their cheap Ryobi leaf blower or something
excellent video !!!
Glad to hear people wanting to keep their Tesla cars even after 5+ YEARS of driving the same car
And that is in contrast to the current any car type ownership of circa 02 yr.
Getting the latest software updates after 6 years is amazing. Not many mobile phones can do this. Car UI even worse. Thanks for sharing
My model 3 with 100k kms has needed:
Both rear knuckles replaced
Front lower control arms (did it myself)
Upper control arms
Headrest replaced due to bubbling
I can’t believe you never added windshield wiper fluid or replaced your blades!!! That’s insane. I saw how you stood on your roof and tried the same & got an instant crack. I would NOT recommend standing on there to anyone. 😂
Lmao that’s a 2500 fix
I came to the comments soon as he said he’s never added windshield fluid. I’ve had my highland for 4 months and I’ve already had to fill it once
That's has nothing to do with the car it's is where he lives, in desert ?
@@ralanham76 Kentucky...
@r3x_delta30 well this just proves that you're a sprayer...and he's not
Well done. My 24 MYLR is by far the best car I have ever owned.
What specific color match did you use? We have the same rims I would love to try it out!
I'm not sure what cars need new control arms at 100k lol... the fsd is awesome and battery replacement seems okay. the new model 3s updated suspension probably addresses a lot of these issues. wait did you say bushings? ahhh ball joint reseal... yeah, that's not normal. but at least they did a recall.
You had an old video which showed 7% battery health, what happened to that result? Just curious!
Great job, Andy
Thanks!
I have a 2019 long range dual motor with almost 90 k mi . I purchased it used during the pandemic and did get gouged due to the shortage. Love my car but mi milage range is dipping fast. When I purchased it there were 10k on it. It would give me 288 range at 100% its now only giving me 248
yea, my 2019 m3p range kinda sucks , i think its the 65kwh battery pack,, I think it would do 235 real world miles.
@@airgunningyup 65kwh pack doesnt exist
@@Beowulf1222 so what size is the 2019 m3p
Great review! Makes me feel better about having just ordered a M3 LR RWD. I was considering a Corolla or Prius given their reliability track record and was a little unsure about the longevity of the Tesla in comparison. But, this shows they are reliable cars that can be trusted for a long time
Just so much fud out there about Tesla's or Ev's in general. Great car, engineered beyond belief. FSD is a game changer. Quality is on par with all mass-produced cars now. Thanks, for the update. And thanks to Elon for making, it a reality!
I have the model 3 for almost the same amount of years. FSD is a real game changer. I use it almost 99% of the time
2:05 No curbster, it’s your driving. We’re all guilty.
Was about to say the same thing lol
Speak for yourself, if you don’t have a wife that drives your car and all your wheels are curbed I’m judging you 😂
Fun fact, I have Tesla Energy for my home and I get free unlimited overnight charging on my Tesla which is paid for so other then insurance and tires every couple of years or so I drive for free now.
Nearly every car needs control arms at 100k miles? You must mean every Tesla. I have never replaced a control arm or link, and that includes my 290k Maxima and my 130k Mazda3. That said, great report on the car. Shows how well engineered they are. Not only solid mechanicals and battery life, but your screen is also100% more responsive than my 4 year old tablet has become, the over the air updates are brilliant.
lol trust me as a full time technician, if you have never replaced your control arms on multiple 100+k mile vehicles. They are shot and you are just use to it and don’t notice. Same goes for motor mounts
Great review! Been watching your Tesla videos since before I got my model 3 back in June of 2021! You even gave me a recommendation on where to eat once when I drove through Kentucky! Mine is a little over three years old and I have already passed 100k miles! Good to see yours is holding up!
Looks so much better without the wheel caps, how much does it help with range exactly?
Agreed, this is by far the best car I have ever owned. Tesla got me like apple, its gonna take something very special for me to move from Tesla.
Bro do you have knee cartilage problem?
Re-sale value only matters if you sell. I'm not selling because I drive it for free now, why on earth would I give that up? Anyone who is looking to buy a used vehicle and can charge at home or at work would be a total fool not to buy a used Tesla in my opinion.
Free?
@@behnamanisi1 Other then insurance, yeah.
@@behnamanisi1 I have free overnight charging.
@@behnamanisi1 some people have free charging at their work. It is a pretty common perk at most tech companies. (Along with the free food 24/7, etc.)
Thanks for update and review, i love Tesla
Oh boy, this video was phenomenally made. I wish my car fared the same as yours, I've just hit 99000 miles and somehow am on my THIRD battery, I cannot explain to you how or why 😭😭, my drivers side door hates to open but other than that I love my car sm, it's given me some trouble but my newest Battery was acrually an upgraded battery and even though my car is slower now, I have to say the new battery after 10k miles has given me zero priblems so im praying i can make it to 150k like you man! (19 sr+ model 3)
Hi Andy, I was on my news feed and they had an article about your story regarding your Tesla, the article tbh wasn't the best as there were quite a few mistakes i.e age of the car and mileage.
So after reading it I thought ild watch a few of your videos and see for myself.
I'll agree Tesla is a great brand and love the cars Elon has created (only thing I'm not liking is he likes to show what is in R&D and either not make it or takes 6/10 years to come out now)
Anyway what I wanted to bring up is a main flaw that we have in the UK....
You have said that it cost $0.11 per kWh to charge, in the Uk the minimum household is $0.70 (£0.52) kWh and almost double that at a supermarket charger.
If my calculations are correct for 38,000 miles of drive range for you that works out roughly $4180
Here the minimum it would cost is $26,600 and that's the minimum price in the UK.
So for the USA electric is the way forward but here it costs 5 times as much to run, let alone the price of a new Tesla is much more expensive too.... There seems to be no pros to owning one here
Great review and update Andy, thanks! I still refer people to your Ultimate guide for the UI/features, though those get stale w/ major updates :)
My 2018 LR-RWD is 6yrs old also, but only 50k... I'm still on hw2.5.. how has yours been on HW3? Any phantom braking on recent AP/FSD updates? I'm worried about losing the radar on upgrade and getting phantom brake events... I've only had a handful ever so far. I don't think HW3 will give me much advantage, beyond sub to FSD, and green light chime?
W/ Atom CPU, we can't get the great high-def park assist, zoom etc... did you see other benefits? Did you lose any data/history/preferences, when they upgraded the computer? driving profiles, song favorites etc?
PS also did you get new side repeater cameras? Mine are still the old ones w/ light bleed at night from turn signal, might get those updated, but not sure worth $$..
My upper control arms seem ok so far (knock wood), but.. my suspension seems to have gotten noticeably firmer/harsher, so I'm getting some 3rd party adjustable shocks installed...
oddly, we got used 2023 RWD 3, and its suspension is a lot nicer? Not nearly as good as the to-drool for Highland Model 3, but... I can't justify such a pricey upgrade, when the 2018 is so good.
Keep on driving & reviewing, thanks!
Just seen your video from 1 year ago where your battery health test said 7%. Was that a false result or did you replace the battery? I'd love to know as I am looking at a 100k mile used model 3.Thanks!
Good ideo. How much haxitcost I total for charging
Same car 75,000 miles in Cleveland OH. Similar results! Exceeding our expectations daily
THANK YOU for mentioning the tires! I got the performance version. I have 24K miles and I am on my 3rd set of tires. $2000 each set of Michelin. Looks like I am changing my rims in the next 30 days and getting some Vredestein tires.