LS forgot to see the bugfixes this patch to realise that both Graves' Fleet interaction got fixed and LDR's Giant Slayer's bonus got fixed from affecting you vs anything to you vs champions (it granted you with bonus dmg against turrets/minions/monsters).
@@taro5311 fleet footwork gives you increased healing if you hit a champion, with graves targeting the champion but hitting a minion will also give you increased healing
Mana tank item could be good for maokai too. Has constant access to slows/immobilizes and can extend his durability to get his passive off once or twice more.
@@davidv5584 I've honestly not had too many issues with mana once I leave lane with maokai top, that was way at the beginning of the year though, not sure if they've changed that. But if it's true then yeah doubly good for maokai!
I was thinking abouth nautilus top, i use to play it ap mid in season9 and it was op, but i dont know like a hibrid tanky ap build be useable in the top lane..
New tempo for sure not a Twitch rune, you die before it's stacked, assuming you have Fence on Lulu for you, even if you do stack it, you can't R to open and the attack speed loss limits your DPS and the range increase doesn't really matter as you have enough already (and extra range means R bolts will miss even more) and if R runs out then you do no damage anyway. First strike on the other hand... Rat jungle maybe comes back? Or you get insane gold after getting tiamat ruunans by teamfighting without even winning it?
Showing dragon in draft is better, both ways show skill expression, one dramatic reduces variance in a skill based game by removing RNG which is good for competition
Hear me out on this one. Buy tear finish Riftmaker on Sylas. Buy Fimble Winter then you go Demonic and then go like Frozen Heart or Magic resist item. Its either turbo broken from the get go or you are turbo inting but this idea piped in my head lol
Want to mention that Turbo Chemtank is NOT like DMP, it stacks up with autoattacks too which actually makes it far more like Stormrazor or RFC but for tanks. This means that champions who typically build tank but also autoattack really fast (like trundle) gain a lot of value from removing the immolate and putting it on attack instead - and in combination with lethal tempo you can get a lot of procs.
Morde is really benefitting from those ap item changes too, cosmic drives procs at the same time at his passive, he can build rylais -> horizon focus and new demonic embrace is perfect for him
If trundle Q counts as a slow, that new tear item would be very good on him, having a shield constantly up plus grasp would make it difficult for any melee champ to properly duel him, it would also synergize well with shield bash.
It does count as a slow, and it is really good on lane trundle, solves quite a bit of his issues early (where he wants to fight but can't because he is OOM after 2 pillars)
I think fimbulwinter has potential on singed since you already want Rylai's and it lets you keep poisoning near constantly as the game goes on. You also get multiple procs from the poison so you get it stacked pretty effeciently.
Isn’t the cosmic drive changes just a straight up nerf? You’re never gonna build the item as a first item and therefore the requirements from s11 of 160 ability power don’t matter as you would achieve this with everfrost and cosmic drive even as a second item. But now you have to hit 3 separate attacks to achieve the passive. So the first 3 attacks don’t receive the bonus and also the stats lost on the item makes it just worse, I’m not saying it’s not a good item for specific champions but I can really see it falling out of favour by alot
Poppy can maybe use the mana. The Q spam will really easily let you push waves and use mana in lane. Especially if you're using W a lot in lane in a counter-matchup.
Trying to listen to this late at night on my phone is impossible cause I have to choose between hearing fudge super loud and waking someone up or not being able to listen to ls at all
24:16 I feel like this will be a really nice twitch 4th item with the hp+ability haste also adcs buff is always nice so they can keep up with the rest of the lanes
Am I supposed to look at these changes and not say that Cass is gonna be z tier next year. I mean they gave her extra healing on seraphs and demonic embrace could be good if you build more bruiser with horizon focus also
It's so hard to watch these videos with this audio, why the fuck is ls wearing a mask while alone in a room, he's like 30% of the volume of fudge. the editor didn't even match their volume wtf
I have an idea for lethal tempo near me out It’s basically the same as old tempo the gain 6 second attack speed when in combat but when you get a kill or assist your attack speed steroid time decreases by x% but your attack speed permanently increases by x% and this stacks until you basically have no rust one anymore but you will have a lot ( maybe not a lot but a decent amount) of extra passive attack speed. Feel like this helps everyone not just adc’s The new lethal tempo doesn’t do shit for champs like azir and being azir on trick myself is sad
I doubt he'll be OP. (As a singed main) I think he'll have actually items to buy and kinda be able to fight in toplane without turbofeeding. Kinda the same opinion that minishcap1 and other challenger otp's have about the items. Just opinion though, we'll see after a few days how it goes. :)
This bounty system is literally the most broken thing ever. If they want to reduce the amount of snowballing, then they should really just lower the amount of gold that's coming in (Plates etc.) and *not* throw all these different cash-systems on top of one another and hope that it'll balance each other out. I think scaling is great, most of my favorite champs are late-gamers. But this is absolutely ridiculous because games just yoyo back and forth now and the objective system is heavily bugged or random.
Blade on ranged still sucks, cutdown + ldr was already mandatory for most ADCs anyways, now with mages getting their damage decreased and ho increased for no reason just reinforces this
Cosmic is absolutely not an Ori item. She already takes Phase Rush so the mobility component of the Spelldance passive is mostly redundant, and you only get the AP bonus AFTER you land three spells, which, in a lot of fights in mid-late, are going to be your Q-W-R. I just don't see myself ever wanting to invest 3000g into Cosmic when I can just go Shadowflame and blow people up. The value just isn't there.
Why would shadowflame be a niche item? If enemy team doesn't stack mr, with shadowflame and sorcerer's boots, you pretty much get magic pen you need. I really think it would be more popular in solo q than void, maybe even in pro scene too.
@@kaheichan6228 still, many champ don't want to stack mr. It's vaible for engage sups and tanks mostly and i doubt any tank jungler will be good because of they lack jungle clearing speed. I really think shadowflame will be prior item.
First strike sounds like a really good akali rune. She had no rune since fleet was removed from melee champs, now she has predator and this. As soon as you get rockbelt on akali if you perma try trading with rockbelt into ult if you hit everything even if you dont kill your opponent you gain 100-150gold/ult. Its not a laning rune but an after first item one.
I dislike the fact that you ignored the Item shattered Queen and the Everfrost (buff?) change. I think those are huge changes to mages aswell. Otherwise, it was really interesting to hear your opinions on the patch.
kinda weird that ls usually says that 1 mountain drake which gives like 7 mr and armor is HUGE but if sunfire gets a flat +5 mr and armor and a couple of hunderd extra health its worthless. I mean im not saying that sunfire is gonna be amazing now i just think its a bit ironic
@@AM-we1es you dont get 7 armor/mr on a squishy untill like 3rd mountain drake lol, first one is litterly +2 armor at thats at lvl 18 unless you end up building GA but lets be honest thats a pretty shit item.
I mean yes this is a big patch but I feel like this is how mid season patch notes should look maybe a little less big but something similar for mid season
I really don´t like that now only sunfire cape has immolate. Immolate now executing minions is excelent, but now that only sunfire has it makes so chemtank is only for junglers and frostfire is worse in lane
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Get well soon!!
As far as the tanks needing mana, would maokai be a tank that comes to mind?
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Why is Fudges mic always bad no matter where he is
the vid is almost unwatchable due to the volume difference between him and LS
He is bad cause he is freezing
Stop being such a baby watch if u want they ain’t making u
Actually fudges Mike is way better than ls in the sound factor. I forgot my headphones and I can't hear ls at all
@@Wanagi12 smooth brain thinking
Waiting for the next Patch notes to be with C9 Fudge and C9 LS
LS forgot to see the bugfixes this patch to realise that both Graves' Fleet interaction got fixed and LDR's Giant Slayer's bonus got fixed from affecting you vs anything to you vs champions (it granted you with bonus dmg against turrets/minions/monsters).
Hooray, ADC nerfs, just what we wanted. Graves definitely could use the nerfs, but what did most of the other adcs do to deserve this? 😢
The one patch LS doesn’t look at the bug fixes to see the Graves fleet change
what was the graves fleet interaction before the bugfix?
@@taro5311 fleet footwork gives you increased healing if you hit a champion, with graves targeting the champion but hitting a minion will also give you increased healing
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Barely being able to hear LS while Fudge is making my ears bleed
Mana tank item could be good for maokai too. Has constant access to slows/immobilizes and can extend his durability to get his passive off once or twice more.
He also has huge mana issues
@@davidv5584 I've honestly not had too many issues with mana once I leave lane with maokai top, that was way at the beginning of the year though, not sure if they've changed that. But if it's true then yeah doubly good for maokai!
I was thinking abouth nautilus top, i use to play it ap mid in season9 and it was op, but i dont know like a hibrid tanky ap build be useable in the top lane..
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New tempo for sure not a Twitch rune, you die before it's stacked, assuming you have Fence on Lulu for you, even if you do stack it, you can't R to open and the attack speed loss limits your DPS and the range increase doesn't really matter as you have enough already (and extra range means R bolts will miss even more) and if R runs out then you do no damage anyway. First strike on the other hand... Rat jungle maybe comes back? Or you get insane gold after getting tiamat ruunans by teamfighting without even winning it?
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23:31 y'all kinda forgetting the W Viktor enhancement makes all his spells apply a slow
Can be a nice third item!
Showing dragon in draft is better, both ways show skill expression, one dramatic reduces variance in a skill based game by removing RNG which is good for competition
I agree, Gala is too strong we have to get rid of him and his team.
LS reading patch notes while cosplaying Talon is the best thing ever.
Maokai needs mana. It's why I don't play him top anymore.
And his support role got nerf last patch- RIOT logic 101
And his support role got nerf last patch- RIOT logic 101
btw shen could build demonic embrace, his mythic+Q would proc it, and his ap/hp scalings are really good
Hear me out on this one. Buy tear finish Riftmaker on Sylas. Buy Fimble Winter then you go Demonic and then go like Frozen Heart or Magic resist item. Its either turbo broken from the get go or you are turbo inting but this idea piped in my head lol
When he talked about Fimblewinter, I immediately thought about Sylas
Want to mention that Turbo Chemtank is NOT like DMP, it stacks up with autoattacks too which actually makes it far more like Stormrazor or RFC but for tanks.
This means that champions who typically build tank but also autoattack really fast (like trundle) gain a lot of value from removing the immolate and putting it on attack instead - and in combination with lethal tempo you can get a lot of procs.
Loved watching fudge discussing patch notes with Darth sidious
Had me dying when he said ''so they are helping out the bronze players'' with the dorans changes xDDD
Sigh, we iron 4 players are still screwed.
Morde is really benefitting from those ap item changes too, cosmic drives procs at the same time at his passive, he can build rylais -> horizon focus and new demonic embrace is perfect for him
the end just cutting off fudge 😂
Feel better soon LS ❤
Abyssal mask swain go brrrrrrr
Hope you recover well LS!
lethal tempo is gonna get gutted so quick
its already shit for most adcs. its actually very niche for ranged even though it doesnt seem like it
If trundle Q counts as a slow, that new tear item would be very good on him, having a shield constantly up plus grasp would make it difficult for any melee champ to properly duel him, it would also synergize well with shield bash.
It does count as a slow, and it is really good on lane trundle, solves quite a bit of his issues early (where he wants to fight but can't because he is OOM after 2 pillars)
I think fimbulwinter has potential on singed since you already want Rylai's and it lets you keep poisoning near constantly as the game goes on. You also get multiple procs from the poison so you get it stacked pretty effeciently.
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Fimbulwinter is actually a Kassadin item (and probably Cassio too) + blitzcrank ofc
i was just waiting for this, thanks LS
the ending was great lmao
I actually love the fact now champ select tells you soul. I'm hoping it will derversify team comps in Pro. Not right away but over time.
This patch is built for Trick2g for sure. Obj bounties, Fimbulwinter for voli, udyr. Tank item updates
i love how fudge was cut in the end
In the bug fixes section, they removed the Graves fleet footwork interaction. Thoughts? Will Graves just go electrocute into lethality everywhere now?
loving the emperor palpatine cosplay LS!
hello hope you recover soon
This is the season brand will take over!!!
Lethal Tempo Taric Toplane Pog
Wait
1.Liandrys
2.Demonic embrace
3.Horizon Focus
Teemo? Would that punch like a fuckin truck
Thanks again for the precious dark side of the force knowledge, master darth LS
Drafting arounding a soul would be really interesting
Winter's Approach/Fimbulwinter sounds like an absolutely amazing Nasus item, considering how much he struggles with mana into the mid game
Hope you feel better soon ^
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Isn’t the cosmic drive changes just a straight up nerf? You’re never gonna build the item as a first item and therefore the requirements from s11 of 160 ability power don’t matter as you would achieve this with everfrost and cosmic drive even as a second item. But now you have to hit 3 separate attacks to achieve the passive. So the first 3 attacks don’t receive the bonus and also the stats lost on the item makes it just worse, I’m not saying it’s not a good item for specific champions but I can really see it falling out of favour by alot
Poppy can maybe use the mana. The Q spam will really easily let you push waves and use mana in lane. Especially if you're using W a lot in lane in a counter-matchup.
Swain was dog fk bad for an entire year but now he gets to buy items :)))
shadowflame might be good to rush in the early stages of a game but obviously it doesnt have the late game scaling compared to void
4:25 finally an item for the church
Singed VGU update possibility
didn't think about that
I used to play a lot of singed so I might have to get back in the groove
Singed
getting so many buffs here damn
Trying to listen to this late at night on my phone is impossible cause I have to choose between hearing fudge super loud and waking someone up or not being able to listen to ls at all
"I don't know one tank that goes oom"
Maokai ejaculates mana. Literally, the saplings drain it entirely.
Also of course, Warwick.
All new runes are judged by how much Ezreal can abuse it.
24:16 I feel like this will be a really nice twitch 4th item with the hp+ability haste also adcs buff is always nice so they can keep up with the rest of the lanes
Axiom Arc on Nocturne seems great
new cosmic drive on cassio and ryze will be insane
Cho’gath will enjoy these new items for sure.
11:00 its huge for maokai and nunu
note for the editor: it would be nice if we can see the image of the item, fudge cam is making really difficult to see. :)
Am I supposed to look at these changes and not say that Cass is gonna be z tier next year. I mean they gave her extra healing on seraphs and demonic embrace could be good if you build more bruiser with horizon focus also
It's so hard to watch these videos with this audio, why the fuck is ls wearing a mask while alone in a room, he's like 30% of the volume of fudge. the editor didn't even match their volume wtf
The tank mana item is very good on Taric and Alistar
9:35 - Maokai?
Taric Jungle / Top gonna be fun!
Wouldn't Zac love the new abbysal mask?
I have an idea for lethal tempo near me out
It’s basically the same as old tempo the gain 6 second attack speed when in combat but when you get a kill or assist your attack speed steroid time decreases by x% but your attack speed permanently increases by x% and this stacks until you basically have no rust one anymore but you will have a lot ( maybe not a lot but a decent amount) of extra passive attack speed. Feel like this helps everyone not just adc’s
The new lethal tempo doesn’t do shit for champs like azir and being azir on trick myself is sad
Singed is going to be so OP now with all these good AP/tank items and predator buff
I doubt he'll be OP. (As a singed main) I think he'll have actually items to buy and kinda be able to fight in toplane without turbofeeding. Kinda the same opinion that minishcap1 and other challenger otp's have about the items. Just opinion though, we'll see after a few days how it goes. :)
FIMBULWINTER TARIC JUNGLE AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Where is the skin review ? I always look forward to them
This bounty system is literally the most broken thing ever.
If they want to reduce the amount of snowballing, then they should really just lower the amount of gold that's coming in (Plates etc.) and *not* throw all these different cash-systems on top of one another and hope that it'll balance each other out.
I think scaling is great, most of my favorite champs are late-gamers. But this is absolutely ridiculous because games just yoyo back and forth now and the objective system is heavily bugged or random.
Fudge really isn't adding much to this vid. But great to hear him repeat whatever you said.
maokai and taric both go oom really fast.
They added so much HP to the game that Blade of the ruined king + Cut down might be new meta.
Blade on ranged still sucks, cutdown + ldr was already mandatory for most ADCs anyways, now with mages getting their damage decreased and ho increased for no reason just reinforces this
Cosmic is absolutely not an Ori item. She already takes Phase Rush so the mobility component of the Spelldance passive is mostly redundant, and you only get the AP bonus AFTER you land three spells, which, in a lot of fights in mid-late, are going to be your Q-W-R. I just don't see myself ever wanting to invest 3000g into Cosmic when I can just go Shadowflame and blow people up. The value just isn't there.
Why would shadowflame be a niche item? If enemy team doesn't stack mr, with shadowflame and sorcerer's boots, you pretty much get magic pen you need. I really think it would be more popular in solo q than void, maybe even in pro scene too.
Because the buffed mr options and merc treads are pretty hard to pass up against mages
@@kaheichan6228 still, many champ don't want to stack mr. It's vaible for engage sups and tanks mostly and i doubt any tank jungler will be good because of they lack jungle clearing speed. I really think shadowflame will be prior item.
First strike sounds like a really good akali rune. She had no rune since fleet was removed from melee champs, now she has predator and this. As soon as you get rockbelt on akali if you perma try trading with rockbelt into ult if you hit everything even if you dont kill your opponent you gain 100-150gold/ult. Its not a laning rune but an after first item one.
You completely skip over glacial augment support morgana. The aoe slow procs with q for a massive 5.5 seconds of slow and damage reduction
I dislike the fact that you ignored the Item shattered Queen and the Everfrost (buff?) change. I think those are huge changes to mages aswell.
Otherwise, it was really interesting to hear your opinions on the patch.
kinda weird that ls usually says that 1 mountain drake which gives like 7 mr and armor is HUGE but if sunfire gets a flat +5 mr and armor and a couple of hunderd extra health its worthless. I mean im not saying that sunfire is gonna be amazing now i just think its a bit ironic
Mountai gives 7 armor/mr on a squishy, sunfire buff gives it on a tank. Because of the logarithmic way armor scales, that makes more of a difference
@@AM-we1es you dont get 7 armor/mr on a squishy untill like 3rd mountain drake lol, first one is litterly +2 armor at thats at lvl 18 unless you end up building GA but lets be honest thats a pretty shit item.
They didn't mention the removal of Caitlyn mechanics in the notes. Any thoughts?
Man im feeling a bit BASED ngl, I might build Collector with Graves on my next game 😎
Imperator LS & Fudge Skywalker
People are saying Palpatine but I was thinkin Kylo Ren ? :c
AP cho LOVES new demonic
I mean yes this is a big patch but I feel like this is how mid season patch notes should look maybe a little less big but something similar for mid season
The man just came from the hospital and still delivers like nothing, get well soon LS
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Thank you for the upload, but please be okay ._.
I really don´t like that now only sunfire cape has immolate.
Immolate now executing minions is excelent, but now that only sunfire has it makes so chemtank is only for junglers and frostfire is worse in lane
Gauntlet has immolate
Isn't Fimbul Winter pretty good on Ryze or Cassio?
will first strike keystone or lethal tempo be good for darius?
Diving right in
watching this on way to school using car speakers and sounds like ls is much quieter than fudge so I’m barely hearing ls with fudge ringing in my ears
The audio balance huh
LS looking like malzehar out here
Hey guys what about tank ekko and tank fizz meta with the new items winter and abyssal mask are we giving them another shot at tanks
Any news bout the new client/lobby?