Electabuzz VS Jynx VS Magmar - Solo Challenge - Pokémon FireRed
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Challenge Rules:
- I can only use my starter in battle.
- No items in trainer battles except held items.
- No glitches, exploits, or RNG manipulations.
First playthrough:
- No Double Team until level 100
- 31 IVs across the board
Second Playthrough:
- All bets are off. Complete the game as fast as possible
- Max 31 IVs unless pursuing Hidden Power
- The option of a single egg move
- I will be playing these runs at 4x game speed
My footage will be edited to give what I consider a better viewing experience. This includes making cuts, fades, and adjusting the speed of the footage to match my commentary.
I use a software called "PKHeX" to edit my starter, setting things like it's Nature, and IVs to be perfect 31s, or marginally reduced to give specific Hidden Power typing to optimize strategy. All of the Pokémon I use are 100% attainable in the base game. The software allows me to create my "perfect" egg Pokémon in a much shorter timeframe.
PKHeX also allows me to set my Pokédex total to max after the Round 1 Elite 4. A requirement of Round 2 is catching 60 species and I am only interested in the potential of the Pokémon that I'm running instead of my ability to catch Pokémon optimally.
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For some unfortunate reason, there was no Flamethrower TM in Gen 1 😢
I messed that one up :( TM35 is Metronome? What!? Not in my books. Flamethrower all the way!
@Eggsceptional It should have been Flamethrower. Hell, SOMETHING should have been Flamethrower. We had Thunderbolt and Thunder, Ice Beam and Blizzard, then Fire Blast and... and... what the flip, Gamefreak?
Yes, I am still sour about it.
@@travisalexander6440 Thunder was really bad gen 1, low accuracy in a gen rife with sand-attack and no rain, so both electric and fire both really only have one good TM. Same with... what do you mean, Blizzard had 90 accuracy with a 10% chance to remove a pokemon from the game...
Praise Lord Helix, I've been waiting for this one 🙏🏾
I hope you enjoy :)
Eggcellent run egg as always. Masterful work here that will be studied for millennia
Masterful indeed. Aside from forgetting my type interactions... a lot. Thanks ;)
Loved this video! I like the choice of including an egg move. Jinx def got the short stick on that but being the only one to learn Calm Mind made up for it for sure, that's prob the best setup move imo.
I love including the egg move. I find it really helps level the playing field and add diversity to the runs. Calm Mind/Bulk Up are so good in these games. Swords Dance too. Really any set up :)
It's been too long, I have quite the eggy backlog to get through and this was a great reintroduction to the channel for me :D great vid as always mate!
As long as the eggy backlog hasn't started smelling funky... :D Thank you!
WOOOOOO 2 hour video!!! Glad to see another video pop out. Phenomenal as per usual. Hopefully I'll be able to catch a stream again at some point!!
Thank you sir :) We miss you at the streams. I'm sure we'll find the opportunity again :)
I love your timeline tier list. That's an awesome design! 👍
Thank you! It took a few versions to get there ;)
A warm smile crests my face whenever Egg Person uploads a video
Well shucks :) Thanks!
I love when you - or other pokerubers - train for max ev its just so satisfying to see a mon's full potential.
It wasn't exactly max EVs, but it definitely got me a good few additional stats by the end :) It really helps!
Been a hot minute since I've caught a video. Always enjoyed these three. Honestly, I prefer Magmar and Electabuzz over their evolutions. Strangely, I kinda prefer Jynx out of the three.
Electabuzz has some kind of strange hold on me. I don't have enough eggsperience with Electavire to comment :)
@@Eggsceptional It's an okay derp, but it just didn't get enough "oomf" that typically comes as an evolution. everything it does, other things can do better.
Definitely prefer Electabuzz in design.
Also its sound in the anime is forever stuck in my noggin.
@@CasualVideoGamer I need to find what Electabuzz sounds like in the anime. All I hear is that pretty grating GBA sound it makes :P
Because Krispizz asked what it is:
3 1/3 Cups of Flour
2 packets of onion soup mix
1/2 teaspoons of baking soda
2 cups of buttermilk
1 cup of cheese, shredded (don't use pre-shredded cheese)
Mix the dry ingredients into a bowl
Add in the buttermilk and work until you get a semi-stiff dough
Mix in the cheese until well incorporated into the dough and evenly distributed
grease a loaf pan and press the dough gently into it so it's flat, leaving no gaps at the bottom
Optional: top with a thin layer of shredded cheese
Bake on the center rack at 350 for 50 minutes
Tanks!
Delicious :D
dafuq is onion soup mix
@@franz009franz In the United States (and probably elsewhere but I can only speak with authority about the US) there are prepared soup mixes you can purchase at grocery stores that give you essentially all the dried ingredients of a soup in one package. You then just add it to hot water or hot stock and let it rehydrate and bam, you've got a passable (if not great) soup. Onion soup mix in particular is often used to make dips for chips or for recipes like this one.
@@franz009franz Delicious...
Very nicely done Egg man or should I say Eggcellent. sorry for the late comment, been a busy boy and haven't been able to watch.
you ran all 3 of them beautifully, my only notes are the lack of HP on all of them, thats a new one on me, I sense Scott whispering in your ear about how absolutely necessary HP is in a run. fair enough with these 3, how much did you really need it in the end, not much, but still, mostly the R2 each one of them could of made use of a HP to make at least one battle easier each. Magmar, could of used something for Lance, maybe Ice whereas Jynx could of used something better than Thief for Lorelei, I assume IV's were perfect so Dark might of been good, but Electabuzz is a different matter. it is a good, but the added HP would improve it, I think massively, HP fire or water to get through Bruno quicker, especially water so you could do some rain dancing and have thunder for some added power and I think help with Tyranitar and its sandstorm. saying that, I would of given it fire and ice punch as egg moves for near perfect coverage from the off, but I'm bias and love having all the punches.
there's something else with Electabuzz, the physical side, its access to meditate as an egg move is an option, yes I know it will make Brock a nightmare, but if you can get through Brock, you will have that ever so beloved combo of sub and set up for the leagues, throw on brick break and HP rock for the coverage and you do your thing. Electabuzz is good and I think could take the crown from Mrs. Popo (as I call her) but it is too reliant on having more than one of its egg moves at a time to do it, if you tried it, any of the above i've mentioned, I think its possible. after all, whenever you breed for an egg move in game, its not like it can only get one and thats it, my Drowzees are hatched with all 3 punches nearly every time
Thank you thank you. Don't worry about the late comment! I'm terrible at replying promptly :P
I thought a while after completing the video if my choice to exclude HP was a good one or not. I thought it was at the time, but a couple of key problems in each run might have been a little more simple with the flexibility. I think HP Water would have done well for Magmar, both for Bruno and for Champ 1's Rhydon. Likely Water would have been a good addition for Electabuzz too, but I agree. That Ice Punch/Thunderpunch coverage from the start was glorious.
I did consider using Meditate as an egg move with Elec. After my Lapras video though I was so scared of going for a physical set up move on a 'mon that seems much more specially inclined, at least in Gen 3. I've taken a look at the options for HGSS and I think these three really need a re-match. Belly Drum for Magmar instantly puts him back in the competition I think. That's a fair point, maybe I should consider using more than 1 egg move. That might start skewing things though. Some get trash egg moves while others (let's say Abra-line) would be unstoppable with a full suite.
@@Eggsceptional thats ok egg, I know Scott keeps you busy, I can imagine its overtime over there right now getting ready for October and the rest of the year.
getting through without HP is always a flex, but for some it is the best and occasionally the only way to get through and where all 3 of them didn't need it, it would of made things a lot easier, the amount of training you did as well I think would of given you at least one TM10 from a meowth army so its not like you would of lost time or much time looking for one. HP water has proven to be oddly one of the best for fire red and would of been a big help for magmar and for Electabuzz, electric, ice, water coverage is very nice after all, I still think fire has its place though and as niche as it sounds I think HP Dragon has a use, any time that R2 Kingdra just refuses to drop, I had a solo Butterfree with HP Dragon once and somehow it worked
HGSS 3 way VS is going to be quite different, the shift in how they each play is massive. Magmar gets Belly drum and I know you, you'll use it, but your physical set isn't the best fire punch, brick break and thunder punch but thats only if you use move tutors. Electabuzz is similar, you can have all the punches via move tutors or egg moves, but you'll need meditate for it. if your evolving either of them then fair enough the move set expands a little but thats not fair on Jynx in a VS. Jynx might do very well though, it gets nasty plot for an egg move and I know you've been wanting some special boosts in these runs, special shadow ball, energy ball, psychic, ice beam and any HP type you want as all HP is special, Jynx might get that sweet sweet 0 reset swag.
as for the multiple egg moves, might be worth trying just to see, to be fair, not many Pokemon get to make use of multiple egg moves at once so its a niche addition that I don't popping up much in Gen 3, Gen 4 is a different matter, you get some straight up broken combos in Gen 4, seriously look at Charizard in Gen 4 and you'll see what I mean. just for fun try something can get a few egg moves at once in Fire red and see how it affects a run, Electabuzz with all 3 punches for example or that tantalizing Abra you mentioned, calm mind, STAB Psychic, 3 elemental punches and a HP of your choice and its straight up broke.
speaking of straight up broke, I tried something similar, just to test it in comparison to a physical set, I did a Hypno VS the R2 league with all 3 punches and calm mind, it was awesome, lose fire punch for Psychic after Bruno and you'll sweep, I went in at 73 with EV's for defense and speed (most common in a standard run so not far off ev's in a standard run and I swept the league, straight up swept, try it, you'll love it. make it a VS punching Abra VS punching Drowzee, it'll be fun
I am the real Jhan and I only come to say that I am sorry for having abandoned this masterpiece, I really don't know how I could spend so much time asking for this and when it is achieved I forget and well anyway (day 1 of returning to the channel)
It's just a shame it isn't Palkia, eh? :)
I remembered when these were streamed! Cant wait
It's all new footage in this video :D
This kept me awake. 😂 Fantastic as always! I hate to that Jynx is better than Zangoose.
Do the Legendary birds next!
They're on the list :) How close Jynx and Electabuzz were kept things interesting for sure. Thanks!
1:55:32 accepting the fate of a ghost is cathartic.
Especially when you're forced to wait for it
Some more top tier egg content.
Thank you :) I try my best
What acid mushrooms was Gamefreak eating when they decided not to have Flamethrower as a TM in Gen 1?
I know! Metronome? METRONOME!?
I love how mono Ice/Fire/Electric can be countered by the starter types of Fire/Water/Grass. It makes Champion Blue extra tough as well. Really well rounded for a 3-way versus.
Obviously Jinx is also a psychic-type, but that's not a big deal. If anything Charizard being part flying-type is the most disruptive. But these differences are what the race so much more interesting!
It actually balanced itself quite nicely I feel with these three! It's rough when I'm doing VS videos with Pokemon that all go against a single team. I enjoy the variety :) Thank you!
1:22:59 Gen 3 Ice Beam is stronger than Gen 3 Psychic. Also, neutral STAB on either is stronger than super effective Water Pulse. There’s no late game scenario where Water Pulse is useful on Jynx because there are no scenarios where it has a 4x advantage over Jynx’s STAB moves (e.g. vs. Aggron, Camerupt, Houndoom, or Magcargo).
You are correct! I was definitely not remembering STAB and Charizard's typing multiple times throughout these runs. Water Pulse was a dead slot on Jynx. The premiere chat really wanted Lovely Kiss in that spot. Possibly Thief. Good looking out :)
Hot, cool, electrifying
That's my favourite Friday night!
I really liked the journey that these three had to go though,in order to became the best that they can be.😊 The egg moves made them better than I thought, they basically made thier primary weakness in game much more bearable,and sometimes even easier than planned. But in the end Kanto ,will be Kanto . Fire types are going to struggle,and clam mind is one of the best moves in the game,and Magmar and Elctrabuzz can't compete with that,but they managed to be on par with some legendaries,which is amazing in its own way.😊
That video was really interesting and relaxing at times. Thanks for making the grind for Gyarados more bearable 😂😂😂.
The egg moves brought the challenges to a whole new level of enjoyment for me. I love having that flexibility. It's true though.. Kanto is going to Earthquake, and Calm Mind is going to win. I'm always happy to share my pain with certain opponents. That way you don't have to :) Thanks!
@@Eggsceptional 100%! That's the Kanto way! I wonder if the next vs video can compare between swords dance users and clam mind users , which one will be better?
@@bateltheassistant I do have a video like that chambered, comparing the same Pokémon with both physical and special set up to see which is best. I have so many projects on the to do list :P
@@Eggsceptional Maybe it's a great time to check these videos out at some point.🤔
Yup, because there are so many aspects to explore in Firered,in general in Pokémon games.
Been a while since you last posted, and man, this was a gd one and 2hrs long, it was nice seeing a 3-way VS. Will just do my usual post-review on what I think could be improved.
Electabuzz: honestly, nthing much in regards to moveset/EM, however, since there is no HP this round for sake of a more consistent run, I will say if HP is allowed, HP fire will help quite a bit against the steelixes, piloswine and heracross, not sure if u will need psychic for agatha but that is a thing for u to maybe think about.
Magmar: Man, gen 1 really did fire types dirty and tbh, Magmar has the best base move coverage, u could maybe consider HP ice for Magmar just to make Lance slightly easier.
Jynx: The best, hence no need for evolution in gen 4 compared to the above 2. Only thing I may change is the final moveset for R2 league. U could maybe clear with a slightly lower level if you run the following moveset: Ice beam, lovely kiss, substitute, calm mind, since champion 2 does not resist ice at all. It will mean bruno and agatha could be more challenging but it may be well worth it for the setup, the 75% accuracy will be annoying to play against though for lovely kiss, Jynx may be the only one that does not need HP here, but HP grass/dark may be useful for lorelei/Ttar if u need.
Thank you! I think you're right about Electabuzz. I'm guessing that with a Sub and Thunderbolt I could have made it through Agatha just fine opening that slot for HP Fire.
That's a fair point with Magmar. HP Ice would also help with that Rhydon problem that he had. I was worried about the time investment costing me too much :P
In the live chat it was brough up multiple times that I messed up my type interactions. Ice Beam was the best choice MOST of the time, and Water Pulse was pretty much a dead slot. Lovely Kiss would have changed things for sure.
It's finally here! We cooking today!
I wonder what Electabuzz smelled like after that overheat 🤔
@@Eggsceptionalwell... After watching the video, I can safely say... MAGMAR IS THE BEST!
@@PedroSilva-tt4tn Belly Drum as an egg move in HGSS... this matchup needs another game to eggsperience ;)
Horseshoe (or Pokemon equivalent) should be a held item that increases the chance of secondary effects from moves 10% or something.
Ooo kind of like a held Serene Grace. That would be so powerful.
@@Eggsceptional Yeah... 10% might even be too much for certain mons. But a fun idea!
Jynx, the wtf is that Pokémon 😂
Jynx, the controversy Pokémon :P
The FireRed Omega starters
Oh cool! I didn't play that hack. Maybe I should check it out :)
Why is Jinx holding BlackGlasses for so long after you replaced Thief? Sadge.
The reason is that I didn't need another held item so there was no need to spend time removing the Blackglasses. They stuck around a long while :)
Jynx being the winner was an interesting result! I thought the physical fragility would've been more limiting
I thought it would limit her more as well but Calm Mind is too good.
Egg,
Is the amulet coin not avaliable for you to get double money for battle wins? Feel like this would have given you a quicker time to ice beam on jynks
Amulet Coin is tied to the Pokedex, and iirc, he explains why he doesn't do that during the run
You need to fill 40 pages in the Dex before you can get it from one of Oak's aides.
That's correct! The Amulet Coin needs the catches, so it would likely result in a time loss. Thanks all for replying :)
Part two.
1:00:42 for the onixiseseseses and steelixeseseses
1:18:10 and 1:40:34 and 1:43:52 and 1:47:38 ooooo 69 nice... and ya missed it 😞 ope wait nevermind ya got it.. sort of.. at 1:18:33 and 1:40:36 is all Scott's Thoughts style 😂
1:43:08 and 1:45:08 more onixiseseseses
1:44:29 oooo 69 nice
1:49:43 for the Gyaradoseseseses
1:54:08 for the brunononono
1:54:28 for the steelixeseseses
Oh yeah there were a few in this one ;)
I need to comment this because I can't unhear it, but everytime you say "____ clocks in with a round 1 time" I think of the lyrics "when a girl walks in with .. a round thing in your face"
Now I too will struggle to not Sir Mix Alot at the end of my runs 😅
These are the starters in Drayano's Fire Red Omega.
Oh cool! I might have to try that one out :)
Who approved the Gen 1 TMs? Why is Egg Bomb and Razor Wind (The bad one) TMs and not moves like Sludge and Jump Kick?
Gen 1 is Gen 1 man. 🤔
Right!? I even got it wrong in this one, TM35 was Metronome. Metronome!!
In Gen 1... Gen 3 I know what I'm talking about. Mostly
TOMBSTON...y??? Oh, brother...
Brother, please. 😅
I don´t know why, but I´m rooting for the fire type every time.
I do love me some Flamethrower. Kanto doesn't though :(
This was muy eggselente
Ahh, grazie!
A VALID frlg challenge?! That's new. Seriously, FRLG challenges don't count if you don't do the rematches
That's what I thought!
I love jynx and smoochum
Ice/Psychic was a blast to play! Jynx is strong.
11:18 and 43:24 for the onixiseseseses
20:49 and 25:48 he said electabuzzeseseses 😂
25:32 and 48:54 oooo 69 nice... and ya missed it :( ...sort of.
26:25 *TOMBSTONER, BROTHER!!!!!* ....Erm, tombstony. 😂
30:09 for the paralysiseseseses 😂😂😂
48:45 oooooo 69 nice
Sometimes they just happen 😅 Other times I think "adventureoflinkmk2 will appreciate this"
@@Eggsceptional and/or his fiancee 😂
Jynx the purple face pokemon
Seriously 😅
YOOO NEW VID
This one took a minute to make ;)
@@Eggsceptional Worth the wait. 3 great mons. I was curious, you brought up magmar losing to charizard bc of belly drum, but magmar gets it too. Was it added to magmar's moveset after gen 3?
@@spencerbrummett6712 As far as I can tell the first time that Magmar is able to learn Belly Drum is via egg move in HGSS, but not in the other Gen 4 games. Belly Drum would have changed that run BIG time.
@@Eggsceptional yeah, it's a shame. Magmar is so close and just needs a little boost to shine.
Yay!
Enjoy :)
@@Eggsceptional started watching this last night as I was falling asleep I click it to see how much longer it is and realize it's a feature-length movie that I'm only 30 minutes through LOL
@@Silvitewolf Heh... yeah. I've really enjoyed the larger scale projects lately.
Jynx is the MOST useful BUT its LOW physical defense means against Brock it SUCKS.
At least Jynx had great special damage against him. Brock's biggest weakness :)
Say egg again
Egg :D
There are lots of pokétubers out there, and the best ones have some kind of a USP. Yours seems to be... Pronouncing 'egg' at the start of relevant words. To be honest, I feel like you're selling yourself short. People don't tune into these for wordplay, so maybe try to find something a little less puerile to make you stand out. You're a good player, so focus on that and I'm sure the channel will grow more quickly.
Thank you for your feedback! I never really thought of having a USP. I've been focused on honing the multivarious skillset a successful creator needs. The egg theme is just my personality coming through. What can I say? Maybe I'm just a puerile person :) I'd rather be my genuine self than some fabricated persona. You've given me some things to chew on. Cheers!