THE TROGGS TAPES FULL EXTENDED 11 MIN VERSION WARNING! VERY STRONG LANGUAGE!
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2011
- The members of the pop group "The Troggs" have some artistic differences of opinion whilst recording the song "Tranquility". WARNING...Very strong language!
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This Is Spinal Trogg.
lol thats what we all were thinking lol
a band of Nigels !!
"he cant play the guitar anymore"
Ted to Dougal - "Just play the F**kin note!"
The first note..........?
@@TheTsar1918 NO, NOT THE F**KING FIRST ONE!!
@@obscureentertainment8303 the f***ing one you were just f****ing playing there a minute ago
You can forget about Icy T and Scoopy Scoopy Dogg Dogg
*12 string plays* "YEAH!" *12 string continues exactly the same* "NO!"
That kills me every time!
Agreed. it sounded perfect before he interrupted. All this could have been avoided if he’d simply been thrown out in the street
if Derek and Clive had formed a group....
*11 minutes of swearing and arguing.*
*Song is called TRANQUILITY.*
Was the song never released? Mad if they didn’t ever finish it!!!
Really? That's funny.
That I didn't know. Now that is what I would call fucking irony.
More Spinal Tap than Spinal Tap.
Spinal Tap row was based on this
It's the west country accents and more swearing than 11 minutes of goodfellas..superb stuff. Not a minute wasted.
+armalyte Yes!!!!.....those accents are defo the icing on the cake!
+Greg Patterson As far as I can tell, they're not from the West Country either. But they are definitely rural accents. It does make it funnier.
+Luke Daniels just got your reply Luke - i'm goin to listen to it again RIGHT NOW :)
@martyn rhodes The album they did with REM was called Athens Andover.
@@lukedaniels7750 they're from Andover, Hampshire!
"I know that it needs strings, that I DO know."
Bloody hell... I had a copy of this when I was an engineer in the '70's. Used to wheel it out every so often to reaffirm our sanity...
Brilliant.
And a really good audio file too, thanks for this!!
As did I, way back then. (In the studio it was a rich source of quotes... "wobble-board"... "it needs strings, that I DO know"... "sprinkle some fairy-dust over the bastard"... "dubba-dubba-dubba chuck"...)
Wonderful to have it archived here.
same, although it was the early 2000s
The wobble board probably homage to the ADT being used at EMI in the 60s... John Lennon had tired of double tracking, so the engineer created a tape delay that he could "wobble" a bit so the second delayed vocal would differ in pitch, and accidentally discovered phase, flanging and chorus effects. The wobble board was the thing they would move to create the differences in pitch. Various underlings would be used as "wobblers" adding the "wobble" to the delayed sound as it was recorded live. The engineer present when Clapton played the solo on "While my Guitar gently Weeps" has owned up to the over-wobbling of certain parts, as he wasn’t able to appreciate or hear the end result until it was played back, and since there was a kind of permanence to it, it was done live on the fly, it had to stay... causing generations of music fans and engineers to ask "how did they get that sound and how can I get it?" The technique would cost tens of thousands today, to use the machines that they used at Abbey Road, buy can be gotten with any tape deck... but the practicality was more obvious when tape speeds of 15-30 IPS were used. Flanging and phasing only occur at higher speeds, or very short delay times, flanging being the fastest and most difficult... they also require some foldback or feedback to accentuate the tones... and create the cycles in which certain frequencies phase and chorus pleasantly while others disappear from phase cancelation in a kind of swallowing effect.
ADT = Automatic Double Tracking.
@@seansweeney3532 I think it's more likely a reference to Rolf Harris's "wobble board".
this has been floating around in the music biz as long as i can remember... people giving copies on tape back in the seventies... one of the first 'viral' recordings... still great
Re: the band's remarks about Larry Page running through one take of everything - Years later, Page himself claimed he rushed the band through recordings on purpose because they would start arguing with each other if he didn't keep them busy. Apparently he was right.
Now THAT made me laugh! I can well believe it after listening to this. Some great music was made sure, but they sounded like an absolute nightmare to try and wrangle, so your comment Garrett doesn’t come as too big a surprise! LOL
I bet their reputation preceded them and they were on many a Producers shit-list!
Or got them to do 1 take, then had a studio musician come in and play it right then make out that was what they did lol.
I’m just reading *Me: The official Elton John Autobiography* and it mentioned this. I got curious and looked it up and, Elton was definitely right.
My Bookish Addiction omg same!!!
Cody Brockway are you enjoying it? And what page are you on?
My Bookish Addiction yes very much ! Page 58
Hbu??
Cody Brockway well I’m currently on page 131. But continuing tomorrow. Can’t wait. The section I’m on is starting to get quite sad, I love Elton, and this book helps me realize what a sad life he had behind the scenes
There is no studio tape in existence that is as funny as this. I can't breathe when this is playing, and I have heard it a thousand times since the 60's. They are all just ridiculous! LOL
Put some f--king fairy dust over it...
That line never ceases to make me laugh ^.^
BTEC music technology course explained in one sentence!
It would probably sound better recorded in Dobly.
It would be better in 'Dolby'!
I always thought the Troggs were musical geniuses for limiting themselves to 3 chords and writing some of the most brilliant music in history within those minimalist limitations... Now I realise that it probably wasnt intentional lmao!
Haha!!!!!
A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with 2 watches is never quite sure....
Also don't forget that nothing ever came of this session and the band split up for several years afterward. This is NOT (as some fans and/or amateur musicians seem to think) what a healthy band sounds like in the studio!
or a boring band
"DUBBA DUBBA DUBBA CHA!"
(plays random Hawaiian improv riff)
"NAOW!!"
Ian Michalski othwise known 1 +. 2 +. 3. + 4....(1/4 note on 4 the rest are 8th notes . To me it goes to the inability of speaking the language of music. They must of made some cash though...
Someone needs to do an Animation for this.
they have mate!
@@krisscanlon4051 link?
@@babybison quite easy to find: ruclips.net/video/so21yysv0cA/видео.html
@@fang_uk ta!
'Fuckin' drummer, I shit 'im.' RIP Reg.
I'm not knocking it but their accents make this 100 times funnier.
I want to thank the uploader for adding multiple exclamation points in the title of this video; for, if it hadn't been for those exclamation points, I would have never decided to click on it to watch it. So, thank you, uploader. Your marketing brilliance swayed me to click on your video.
I like your sarcasm *_! ! ! ! !_*
And I like the multiple fancy slant, PAULLONDEN.
Also reading Elton’s “Me” and came to explore. Thanks for posting! Feels like this is how me and a bunch of my buddies would sound in a recording studio… and why we would almost definitely never survive as a band.
I remember listening to a bootleg copy of this tape in the 1980s that was doing the rounds, long before the Internet.
Hilarious classic of *audio-verite* underground recording. Reg's molasses-thick West Country accent just makes it better: "You have PLOYED it TONOYTE!"
Reg lived in Andover, which meant that he was within striking distance of the crop circle hotspots. Apparently, he was working on a local building site when he heard that 'wild thing' had hit the charts. At that moment, he walked off site.
It's the "ya big ... pranny!" in the middle that always gets me.
Thanks for this Elton.
Every band needs a leader to make decisions....this is why
11 minutes of studio time wasted, still worth it haha
Jimmy Tee Rex goes up to 11
5:18 'YOU HAVE PLAYED IT TONOITE' gets me every time
Me too :)
I'd sure love to hear the full song if they ever finished it...
Kim Runic love that line. that and "fucking drummer, i shit him."
@@dummytree ; I think this is it.
ruclips.net/video/SbN6JXYnes0/видео.html
The drums at 10:55 sound like someone stretched a piece of leather over a Campbell’s Soup can and started beating on it with a dead twig.
😂
And I think we should call the album _Vim Fuego._
"I'm sorry I called you the Andrew Ridgeley of heavy metal."
It'd be funny if someone recorded The Banana Splits carrying on like this! "You've got to f@#king put fairy dust on it,fleegle! "
My productions teacher played this at the end of our semester. Both times.
“Ya big pranny” 😂
This got lampooned on Father Ted
The record company cashed in on it (of course!). We heard about The Troggs Tapes not long after they were recorded, but with no internet or anything else, we didn’t know where to get them. Then I went to what is now called a pop-up record seller, and there it was - an LP called The Troggs Tapes! I paid my couple of quid, rushed it home and put on the Dansette. It was just a cheapo compilation - no swearing or anything else, just B sides or album tracks, thrown together to cash in. ‘Twas ever thus…
What c***s, eh?
Every band argues like this !!!
inspiration for the Spinal Tap argument!
⚡️🤘
This must be what Spinal Tap was based on. At least the inspiration.
First time I've heard this.
Steve Wright in the Afternoon sent me.,..
"yer big Pranny!" thanks for posting, great stuff!
Yes..I was just thinking how much this sounds like the clips of bad news arguing.....I'm sure they heard this for inspiration.
Great quality recording. I've got this on the B-side of a 12-inch single, but it's a bit crackly these days
They just needed some lukewarm water to help smooth it all out.
4:26 rosskolnikov “...what about a fuckin’ 12-string on it” a similar moment to this actually made it into Spinal Tap, but it was a cut scene
Or a well preserved moose!
I live in Somerset, so proud
When ego surpasses talent.
I think it's more stress over mortgage repayments, wives & children to support, rather than egos in this case.
Any honest artist knows how much luck and serendipity plays a part in success...and you can't just turn those things on in the studio.
Anger is an energy!
We all came here for the "Dubba dubba dubba cha"
Here because of bad news
Apparently this audio clip was the inspiration for 'Spinal Tap'. I can see that.
I didn't know that "The Trogg Tapes" existed until today.
Listened to a old Iain Lee podcast and he mentioned this...So thought I'd listen to it, bloody priceless.
No we're not going to f***in' do Stone 'enge
"I know I ain't playin' it right, cos I'm the c*nt tha's playin' it - 'dubber, dubber dub, chuck" - brilliant - also 'split yer hands - one's doin' it on the floor tom ...' - then we have 'put some fairy-dust on the baasterd' - and every so often we hear this poor studio engineer trying to instill some kind of calm. I first heard this when recording in a studio in Dublin and I seriously nearly died, on the floor unable to catch my breath from laughing - it was a bit like seeing the Monty Python 'Biggus Dickus' scene for the first time.
Spinal Tap should have recorded their records in Dublin. ;-)
If the studio argument from Spinal Tap, between Nigel and David, isn't inspired by this I'll eat my hat! This is so funny though - hearing them bicker is like many bands I've been in....some bands just can't get it together!
I thought that the Spinal Tap argument was a verbatim copy of this.
If you’re in a band for more than five minutes there will be arguments - er, musical differences. A band I was in had a fight over a single chord. We were practicing a song I’d written, and there was a D - Bm progression with an intervening A/C#. I thought that was corny, so I said just go from D to Bm. But then someone said that I’d written in the passing chord, so we should play it. I said I’d changed my mind. He said that was what I’d originally written, so we should play it. That was the end of my involvement!
It's inspired a few... homages, shall we say? Spinal Tapp, the Bad News album, and the scene in Father Ted where they're trying to write the song "My Lovely Horse".
One of them actually sounds like Nigel..
Toms sound like cardboard boxes they found in the alley behind the studio.
hee hee, I love the bit near the beginning "you've gotta put a little bit of f****** fairy dust over the bastard!" in his west country accent. Made me chuckle. Thanks!
LOL omg this is great. Just waiting for "I do not, for one, think that the problem was that the band was down. I think that the problem may have been that there was a Stonehenge monument on the stage that was in danger of being crushed by a dwarf"
Reg Presley sounds just like Fred West!
"YEAHHH.....................NO"
This reminds me so much of Derek and Clive. Hilarious :)
First I heard about this tape was when I read about it in Elton John's book 'Me'. Had to listen. 😂
I'm listening to Ronnie James Dio's autobiography and he praises the Troggs Tapes.
This is the greatest thing I have ever heard. I am loving this. Holy fucking fuck.
This is better than any song they could have come up with. Maybe they should have recorded it in dubley.
Terese Hewitt No heavy metal in Dobly.
Terese Hewitt No heavy metal in Dobly.
All this haggling and arguing you’d think it’s gonna be this huge magna opus. And then you hear it
I'm the xxxx playing it. Classic stuff 👍
JUST PLAY THE FUCKING NOTE!
"One! Two! One Two Three Four!... And You're doing it fucking wrong! Dubba dubba dubba chah!!!"
This is bloody hysterical.
Malcolm Palm Fucking hysterical, actually.
bloody fucking brilliant, eh
“What about a f-king 12-string on it?”
"he cant play the guitar anymore"
This is the greatest thing ever.
Haha they make the Sex Pistols sound like choirboys! RIP Ronnie Bond.
Mr. Ball ("Presley"), the lead singer had a wife, kids and grandchildren. Lovely person by all accounts, too.
lol they're careless simplicity is what makes them magic!
Wonderful 😀
lol reminds me of Derek and Clive!! RIP Ronnie and Reg.
Except they never get The Horn !!
“Fucking drummer I shit em”
I don't believe we'd get a recording like this from Rush.
"What about a fuckin 12 String on it?"
Thx!
He put a little fairy dust in our lives. RIP Reg. DUBBA DUBBA DUBBA CHA!
Legendary!
I lost my copy along time ago ..but for anyone who is, has been,wants to be a producer, musician, writer this is REAL education....enjoy
Now we know the secret to making a hit record "
Youve got to sprinkle some fairy dust on the bastard,lol!!!
or indeed, piss on the tape :-)
fuckin' 'ell, this fucking song needs more than effin strings
"split your hands" :)
"Fuckin drummer I shit 'I'm..." 🤣 This is fucking class!
A One Two Three Four...'You're fucking doing it wrong' Dubbah, dubbah, dubbah ,cha.
YEAH!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!
Oh dear. Fairy dust
Natalie Noone from 60s-on-6 on Sirius brought me here!
The 'famous' Troggs Tape; this tape was doing the rounds of the London recording studios in the early seventies! "Just split yer hands...."
Still hysterical too me!
That fella is right. George Martin was always sticking the wobble-board on Beatles records and look how they turned out, eh?
Musical differences.
If the drummer had some sheet music, this could have all been avoided.
A drummer that reads music.... LOL
Re:Mel Fix As far as I know the song was ironically called Tranquility and I believe it still remains unreleased up until now.
strings or brass or f'ing wobbleboard.... I sympathize with the frustration.
this was on "THE TROGGS Archeology 1967-1977" and the tape would 'wiggle'
fairydust line was sampled by Black Grape on Shake your money!