I shared the stage with Buddy when I was 5 years old and he was much nicer to me than he was to his band. lol Was at his show sitting in the front row when he fired (jokingly) his piano player during the concert, asked if there were any piano players in the audience and I raised my hand 'cause I started taking lessons when I was 4. He called me up onstage, asked me what song I knew and I told him, "Tiny Tiger!" He told me to "hit it" and I started playing and the band jumped in. Everyone got a kick out of it. He invited my whole family backstage after the show and was super cool. He also lived in my hometown (Palm Springs, Ca.).
Man, I wish I lived in Palm Springs!! Do they still have all the pools, chicks in bikinis, parties, etc?? Sounds like fun.. If it gets 130 degrees, you can always jump in a pool, or something!!
After Buddy died one of these oppressed musicians phoned his widow and asked "can I speak to Buddy please". "Buddy's dead" she replied. A few minutes later he phones again, same thing "can I speak to Buddy please?" "I've just told you, Buddy's dead". Minutes later and he phones again "may I speak to Buddy please?". "I'm telling you for the third time, Buddy's dead, he's dead! Why do you keep ringing and asking the same thing over and over again?". "I just like hearing you say it" was his reply. Not a joke ... a true story btw.
I like the story where Buddy Rich once called Dusty Springfield, "a fucking broad" so she slapped him in the face so hard his toupee flew off. Then afterward his band gifted her a pair of boxing gloves as a thank-you.
I've heard more swearing in 5 minutes of Buddy Rich talking to his band than in two hours of movie with Samuel L. Jackson. Now I am impressed. This guy was really talented.
He was an asshole he has no right talking to grown ass people like that I would have told go straight to hell buddy rich or no buddy I don't give a shit if he was a Star kiss my ass
Buddy was at new Windsor music shop many yrs ago.l was about fifteen then. he showed me for different beats at same time! what a day for a drummer like me.
No, he is NOT an ass!! Try being in a band, doing all the writing, organizing, composing, all the effort, while some lazy musicians you are working with, show up sometimes, play like they dont give a fuck, and show no enthusiasm, but expect full pay, but they act like they dont give a fuck, and put in the bare minimum effort. He is not being a dick, think how much bullshit he may have already put up with! Imagine you had a business and your workers did the bare minimum, or even less.. while you did everything!! He is the employer, he has a right to bitch about it..
Bottom line, Buddy was one of the most amazing drummers in the history of music. He was astounding every time he played. He had a big heart, and championed young musicians like myself. He had one of the quickest wits you would find anywhere, and a great sense of humor to boot. All this far outweighed the periodic temperamental outbursts (which were also very funny most of the time). I am forever grateful for the opportunity to play in Buddy’s band. Bob Mintzer, March 25, 2013
I know some of these musicians that suffered this personally. You want to know how much of a perfectionist Buddy was? All of these guys he's lambasting are bonified prodigies.
Buddy rich lines are used as some of the funniest Seinfeld lines ever! "Step outside and I'll show you what it's like!!!!!" Outstandingly vague and hilarious.
I met a sax player who played with Buddy for 2 years. He said Buddy yelled a lot but wasnt wrong. He would compliment you if you played well and this is what you get if you didn't. A real legend.
Samdara L I wonder if Buddy was pushed to perfection as a child prodigy, so that either his parents or the vaudeville theatre owners could make more money. As they say "He who is bullied becomes a bully." "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition." (1 Timothy 6:9)
Buddy was known to be a really self-absorbed and a very mean band leader just like the music director in the movie Whiplash. Apparently both the student and the professor in the movie are character traits of Buddy. It is what happens when you have too much passion for what you do. This is from an old friend
I've heard these tapes many times. I was a student of Buddy's back in the early 80's, and had a conversation about this with Steve Marcus. I was about 21, Steve I believe was 40 or so, and Buddy was about 60. From what I understand, Buddy went through these rants as his way of trying to discipline his band when he did not feel they were tight, as he did not know how to otherwise handle them. He would pull everyone back onto the bus and go at it. I can tell you that from my time with him, he had a temper as he was impatient, but I never heard anything like this while with him. I do know that if you review clips of the band, you will see that whenever Buddy soloed, the players had their eyes peeled on Buddy. I was told that he had ordered this, as the players were not always watching or paying attention as the solos ended, and were otherwise missing their entrances. This is what I know about that. Brian Choper
Brian Choper Try his disiplin today with the 'Snowflakes' and you'd be sued by the fashist police. Buddy is one of my favorite percussionist because he was self taught and flamboyant with confidence nobody could match. Just an observation from afar.
@@denverdanoreno - Confidence does not require rudeness and lack of empathy. The latter two demonstrate a clear shortcoming on his part that is the opposite of admirable.
6:01 "you all... you're not my kinda people" quasi-Seinfeld line (The Understudy) 6:40 "up there without all the assistance" Seinfeld line (The Butter Shave) 11:20 "or I'll show you what it's like" Seinfeld line (The Opposite)
Ive been leading bands all my life and Im embarrassed to say that years ago I used to equate being an asshole with being a good bandleader. So grateful I finally saw the light. In no way shape or form is anyone ever deserving of this kind of verbal abuse. Im the luckiest person to share the stage with such great people/musicians today and could never go back to being the ungrateful person I was. Every one of these musicians shdv walked rt the fk out on Rich. Integrity is everything. I dont care who you are.
I absolutely agree. I don't care if he's right or wrong in what he's saying. People should not be treated like that,and I would have been gone the first time, preferably if he did it on stage.
The other point is how self-defeating it is. Nobody plays a wrong note on purpose. So you’re not going to improve their performance by lambasting them. It’s going to have the opposite effect. Nobody ever played better because they felt terrified, nervous, or lacking in confidence.
Not sure where a couple people here are getting their impression of Ramsay, but I doubt you've watched, read, or heard enough about him to make an accurate call. A lot of what you see from Ramsay on Hell's Kitchen USA, I believe, is contrived to a degree, and I remember reading that Ramsay himself admitted that he adds a little bit extra to spice it up for the audience. If you watch any other show with him on it, he doesn't come off anywhere near the same way a vast majority of the time...he's got the same demanding standards, but it's done in a much more calm way. I've also heard he's quite nice in person; not what I'd call egotistical, and he certainly has a gigantic amount of talent (albeit in food, not music).
I used to play this in my workshop at a music store in the 90's. A friend who also worked there, would come by and hang- and after a while, we'd memorized this word for word.. first- for our amusement, we'd lip synch it, and then, after we got tired of doing that- we'd recite it in Lou Ferrigno voice.
This is exactly how every school band director acted from 5th to 12th grade. Now, I don't tolerate raging drama in a band. If I'm not smiling and loving the peeps I'm playing with, then I just can't do it. I won't play with assholes no matter how good they are. Music is Love.
My high school band teacher was like this. Your Freshman year everyone was intimidated. By your Senior year you were like “fuck this mother fucker” and you knew he couldn’t do anything to you. It really was a mess.
I met him when I was 7 or 8yrs old...he gave me the sticks he used in the show! it made the local paper (I have that pic/article) ...but I wish I still had the drum sticks..
He reminds me of my highschool choir teacher. He always expected the best from us, no exceptions, and if we screwed up badly he would call us out just like this.
I had the "pleasure" of meeting him once in Savannah GA when he did a show on River Street. Though he was polite, you could sense the energy and anger boiling within him.
Yeah, remember the time he was conducting the premiere of his ninth symphony, and he kept waving his hands after the piece ended? Wasn't that a thing? And then we took him to dinner afterward to celebrate and he threw a fit? Ah, those were the days.
Me too. Ol’ Ludwig could barely hear me when I told him his music lacked a back beat and some feel. It was just a myriad of string runs with nice dynamics...however, I had to move on. I wanted to play a dance groove and he broke his foot trying to move along to it. Ol’ Ludwig.. Music is still around, but just old folks about to die listening to it. Oh well.
Here's the thing. He was a true vaudevillian who demanded nothing less than perfection. Also, some instances he did this to try and motivate his band (whether it works or not). Sometimes it was to try and impress his wife when she was walking by, or maybe it was due to him not getting a smoke. Also, that trombonist worked for a year more after this instance, because he was an Aussie who didn't shirk away from Rich's rant. Actually gained a ton of respect from Rich for not backing down. Lastly, Buddy really was a great person under it all. The only time he EVER got violent was when defending some of the saxophone players in a band when Sinatra ripped them a new one when, in Buddy's words, "they weren't at a level to take that kind of criticism." And then Sinatra threw a water pitcher at Rich, and the fight happened.
Michael Ozayu don't you mean nothing less than perfection? you have no business on this comment board, none, get the fuck off . Now. !!!we are professionals having intelligent conversations and you are talking like a child. You don't even know your clichés. how dare you? Do you know who your talking to, and so on
Er...Michael Ozayu is right, he couldn't tolerate drinkers & preferred the herb. I hope your playing is better than your command of diction... This child's a professional the last 25 years - you?
This is exactly what he was like. I worked for him for about a year. He used to yell at people on the band stand in front of the audience, too. Ego and an anger problem. I did hear some great music, but whoa...
I think it is a shame when we condone the bad behavior of people who are considered to be "somebody", when we would scorn the same behavior in a "nobody".
That's a fight I'd pay to see. They were both jerks. If I had to favor a winner, I'd go with buddy. Faster hands and feet in general, and a black belt in karate. I don't know if ginger Baker had any kind of martial arts training. I could see it already. Budweiser presents along with Don King promotions: the fight of the century... Hailing from England in the red corner Ginger Baker. And in the blue corner Hailing from Brooklyn new York. The drum wonder: Buddy Rich. They step to the center of the octagon. Alright men, I want a good clean fight. Obey my instructions at all times. Protect yourself at all times. We went over the rules in the dressing rooms. Are the fighters ready. Are the judges ready. Air horn sounds. We all know that rest.
Buddy Rich's delivery is flawless. His tapestry of four letter words extraordinary. And his cadence, ah, exquisite. It's a rare talent to cut people down to size the way Buddy Rich does. He's no longer the master of the beat, he's the king of verbally beating others to a pulp with his floriant words.
This reminds me of the story Rupert Holmes tells about turning down the chances to be introduced to Cary Grant and John Lennon, as he did not want to risk a bad encounter spoiling his appreciation of their art. You don't want to meet public figures you love!
My band director I had 20 years ago said this and I never forgot it.. “Every band needs 2 drummers just in case one ends up in jail...” Buddy was quite the tyrant.. it’s funny to hear these audio clips, but I’m not so sure Buddy was disappointed exclusively with their playing. It’s likely he clammed a couple times too. I mean nobody is perfect. It’s also possible he did these rants, in part, simply to spew out all the negativity he had welled up inside. None the less, these clips are extremely entertaining. He definitely kept the egos trimmed down while he worked on puffin his up.
Reminds me of a boss I had in my youth. My first day on the job, I was asked to do some volunteer work for the company. A few days later, I showed up at the place and started to do my bit. Somehow I was in the wrong area. He, the boss, came around (my first time meeting him) and started hollering at me for being such a fuck up. I took his abuse and found the right location. He was a bully who used his position as leverage against people who didn't have his kind of power. He always would from time to time threaten each and every one of us with termination. It's scary when you're trying to pay the bills. Some of us had kids to support. And we had no union. We basically all hated him and still do. The best day was when he got fired by those higher up because he was stealing funds from the company. I later met him in the street and he was a fat nobody. Never even cared to cuss at him back. Left him far behind. I wonder how some of Buddy's hired band players thought of him. Sure Buddy was the best, but was he still a somebody after they were no longer playing for him and met him in the street? A job is a job.
Just remember, Charles Mingus used to punch out his sidemen. Benny Goodman used to "glare" menacingly at his band. Glenn Miller used to be real "rough" on his band.
+eaglestrike1000 mingus threatened to punch out Oscar Peterson, but when face to face he asked Oscar why they never played together drugs--you are not dealing with a rational being
The Dorsey brothers fought with each other. Before becoming a full time arranger, Nelson Riddle played trombone with them and sometimes had to physically stand between them. And they were blood brothers. They later, of course, went their own ways - Tommy and Jimmy.
And this is why I’m glad to be a jazz guitarist. No one pays attention to the guitarist in a big band. Just stay out of the bassist’s and pianist’s way, and you’re golden. It’s all 3rds and 7ths for this guy right here, and maybe an upper extension if I think the pianist isn’t paying attention. Haven’t been yelled at once!
Back when I was in music college , my roommate got called to play with Buddy Rich's band . He was gone for a couple of weeks then one day he just returned to the apartment. I asked what happened , he said it was just a short term gig but he heard him flipping out on the bus .
Buddy Rich was blessed with incredible talent. One of the best drummers ever. Unfortunately not so much as a human being. I have no respect whatsoever for 'leaders' who cannot lead without expressing themselves in this manner. I had management responsibilities over my working career and one of my principles was never to dress down or correct subordinates in front of the rest of the group. True the musicians in his bands were paid to do their jobs but that is no excuse for the disrespect and temper outbursts Buddy was infamous for.
@@AzlanValentine Abuse in a professional setting is never justified. If he's upset with a band's performance he could have just fired any problem members, there was no shortage of musicians at the time that would rip their nuts off to play for Buddy Rich.
Estiendo su postura, pero estos músicos además de tocar tenían vicios, alcohol, drogas, etc, normalmente en una fábrica la gente no va drogada o bebida a trabajar, por eso usted tuvo un trato educado con sus subordinados, pero en la música es otra cosa, mire la historia de los grandes artistas muertos por la droga.
@@timstanford3220 : Buddy NEVER Worked for Frank Sinatra!The incident you were referring to was when Buddy and Frank both worked together as featured members of Tommy Dorsey Orchestra in the 1940s!
Watch interviews with him. He was a real jerk. Especially in his mid life, he was a real pretentious, stuck up person. Plenty of guys with his talent didnt act like this.
My dad took me to a concert back in about 1975. I was about 10 years old. He fired a tenor player right off the bandstand in the middle of the concert. Unreal.
Also wanted to add that I think Buddy Rich was the type of guy that thought "If you're not going to do it the right way, then don't do it at all." That's just my opinion though.
One of my all time favorite videos. From wikipedia: Rich's temper was documented in a series of secret recordings made on tour buses and in dressing rooms by pianist Lee Musiker, who concealed a compact tape recorder in his clothing while on tour with Rich in the early 1980s. On one recording, Rich threatens to fire trombonist Dave Panichi for having a beard (can be heard at 9:10)
With the utmost respect for Buddy Rich's accomplishments and amazing playing ability I write this: If Jack Webb from Dragnet and Drill Sgt Hartman from Full Metal Jacket were combined and had a band, this might be what they sounded like. I can see why Jerry Seinfeld wrote three of the bits into his show. It is hilarious, but a tad Fascist, to put the description mildly.
Good point. He is definitely frustrated. My use of the term "Fascist" was an exaggeration for comedic effect. Rich was a great drummer, an emotional guy, and maybe a bit psycho. But I love that about him. I can listen to these tapes over and over.
Even better, thanks. I saw Buddy and his band when I was in college (early 80s), it was winter time in Illinois, and somehow the whole band didn't make it to the gig because of very bad snow on the roads. At any rate none of the trombone players made it to the hall, and Buddy's attitude on the mic was, in so many words, fuck the bone section, you came to see me. It was quite a moment for a kid who was still doe-eyed about the music business...
I saw him play as a teenager @ The Electric Factory in 1969 (Phila) We went in his dressing room signed an autograph for me. The guy I was with was also a drummer he asked him about "financial trouble" and Buddy got really pissed. I knew he was this way. He taught karate in the Marines during World War II So he could back up his big mouth.
I wish I could remember the guy's name,from south Philly. He chased buddy out of a club in A.C. Ya can't mouth off at everyone,there's always that one guy...what a strapper he must have been to work for.
According to Musiker, “These tapes were made because I knew that they were historic.” “Through it all the message was excellence and perfection and bringing your best talent to the bandstand. Buddy always played at 200%. He just pushed it to the max and that’s exactly what he demanded from everybody.
He makes Chef Gordon Ramsay sound like a sweet kitten. I've heard that Tommy Dorsey was really tough as well. Anyone think that Buddy had a mood disorder (BP), perhaps?
I saw Buddy play around twenty times. He always gave one hundred per cent. At times he gave a drum clinic in the afternoon and was wasted by that and then went to Scotts in the evening and gave it all again. I saw him bawl out third trumpet at Scott’s and made him play all the trumpet solos for the rest of the gig. Not an easy boss I guess.
You have to remember that at Buddy's playing level, it starts in his head and just transferring through his hands to the drums. So he's got a certain level of perfection in his head, and we all know how good he was. This means that perfection level that he strived for was likely beyond the normal backup player that he had on other instruments. So the little imperfections that they may not be aware that they were doing as they played, those were all clear as a bell to him. And as a player, when he got in front of an audience, he wanted all other players to match the same level of perfection on their instruments as he was on drums in order to present the music to the audience at a perfection level as a whole. If an instrument or two faltered at some point, the whole song is ruined, at least in his mind. I play guitar but I'm not good at it. If I was actually good at guitar, I wouldn't have to work so hard to learn to play what I play. That stuff comes easy to guitar players who really are good. Anyway, with that said, I've played in bands with others locally. And when other players don't put in the time and effort to learn a song on their instrument to the level that I did on mine, it is quite frustrating. They do a half-ass version, then want to actually go gig! I'm not going to get in front of an audience with the songs sounding like that. So I know where Buddy is coming from. Its important to him for every instrument to play at the level he knows he's playing at on the drums. And when it doesn't happen, especially at his level playing on TV and such, that would be frustrating. In reaction to this vid, if you want to see Buddy pleased with the performance of other band members, go find Buddy playing with Johnny Carson's band on the Tonight Show. After he's done playing and goes and sits by Johnny, one of the first things he says is a compliment about how good of a job they did backing his playing. I'm sure that is what he strives for, to play along with others who ace their parts as well. For a player, nailing that song is a feeling that can't be matched. That's what he strived for and wanted, and obviously blew his stack when he couldn't get it, as this vid proves.
As a drummer who idealized buddy, I met him in Cincinnati at Beverly hills supper club, beef and boards, the zoo, Bogart's ECT. I was a teenager hanging out with my second father Jack Volk the T V show drummer for Ruth Lyons and Bob Braun as his student we were like brothers. Jack knew all the famous jazz drummers. One night Louie bellson called to say he mailed some charts to jack to use in his band and I nervous as hell when jack handed me the phone, I couldn't believe who I was talking to. Jack always included me in everything he did God rest his soul. Buddy on the other hand was an inexcusable asshole, always nice to me signed autographs ECT. But the he cussed Ross konikof and Steve Marcus so Beverly hills right in front of us made me and jack sick. From 1980 on, many guys could play up to him. Father time got buddy to. R I p buddy .
I shared the stage with Buddy when I was 5 years old and he was much nicer to me than he was to his band. lol Was at his show sitting in the front row when he fired (jokingly) his piano player during the concert, asked if there were any piano players in the audience and I raised my hand 'cause I started taking lessons when I was 4. He called me up onstage, asked me what song I knew and I told him, "Tiny Tiger!" He told me to "hit it" and I started playing and the band jumped in. Everyone got a kick out of it. He invited my whole family backstage after the show and was super cool. He also lived in my hometown (Palm Springs, Ca.).
wow what a story!
That is a neat story:)
that's way too cool daddio.
Man, I wish I lived in Palm Springs!! Do they still have all the pools, chicks in bikinis, parties, etc?? Sounds like fun.. If it gets 130 degrees, you can always jump in a pool, or something!!
That. Is. AWESOME.
This is my favorite Buddy Rich album.
Definitely one of the most entertaining and insightful albums.
Yea especially his hit. Get off my f***ing bus.
@@willmurray222That was the bside to You Wanna Fuck With Me on the Bandstand?
He'd make a good rapper.
@@ericme4767 MC Get Off My Fuckin' Bus
Most impressive part is how he keeps that drum roll going the whole time too.
Those are the 3 bass drums.
bratsampson .......I don’t hear a drum roll, I hear a running diesel engine and he does say “now get off my fuckin bus”. ....Not a drum roll.
theyre on a bus........
LOL
just sitting there screaming his head off and still doing his drum roll consistently
"Buddy's Greatest Fits"
Send away for the Buddy Rich motivational tape today!
Rooooofl Gold!!!!
Dude If I want AI to do something is this. I would love this ahhahaha
For all of those who don't know:
Clams = Wrong notes.
+metallicarocks911 or clammies
Lenin Luna Not just drummers are like this. Charles Mingus, a known upright bassist and songwriter, had a hot temper as well.
Thanks. I thought it was when your Sax squeaked. That would drive a band leader nuts.
FUNNY CUZ IT'S TRUE:)
Did not know that seriously. Thanks.
60 fpm (fucks per minute).
Genius comment
+Suprematista hahaha! Good one! :)
+Suprematista made my day
+Suprematista accurate assessment....
The moral: speed was reaaaly good in the 60s. Don't do speed and play music, is.
is he still tremolling on the snare while he is cursing them?
themuulen haha top comment
themuulen that's the proper way to curse at somebody, it's even better with a crescendo
Hahaha I hear that
+themuulen nah he's doing Triple Ratamacue's
Either that or a violent air conditioner.
Buddy talked like 1920's Hollywood gangsters 😁
He was from Brooklyn lol
After Buddy died one of these oppressed musicians phoned his widow and asked "can I speak to Buddy please".
"Buddy's dead" she replied.
A few minutes later he phones again, same thing "can I speak to Buddy please?"
"I've just told you, Buddy's dead".
Minutes later and he phones again "may I speak to Buddy please?".
"I'm telling you for the third time, Buddy's dead, he's dead! Why do you keep ringing and asking the same thing over and over again?".
"I just like hearing you say it" was his reply.
Not a joke ... a true story btw.
How many times will people post this story? Jeez. Every RUclips video of the Bus tapes, someone post this. We Know!!!
Well it turns out I didn't so.. @@walterrooks
I like the story where Buddy Rich once called Dusty Springfield, "a fucking broad" so she slapped him in the face so hard his toupee flew off. Then afterward his band gifted her a pair of boxing gloves as a thank-you.
LOL
Then she ended up fucking him. Oh the irony.
drumtravelfun no. He wasn't her type.
Dusty wasn"t in to guys.
She was a lesbian. She gave Mr Rich a good slapping.
I've heard more swearing in 5 minutes of Buddy Rich talking to his band than in two hours of movie with Samuel L. Jackson. Now I am impressed. This guy was really talented.
Good one! I was thinkin of Pulp Fiction while listening and then saw your comment
He was an asshole he has no right talking to grown ass people like that I would have told go straight to hell buddy rich or no buddy I don't give a shit if he was a Star kiss my ass
Sorry, I thought I passed out and was remembering my childhood at home...
slow clap
Geniuses are usually assholes.
Buddy was at new Windsor music shop many yrs ago.l was about fifteen then. he showed me for different beats at same time! what a day for a drummer like me.
lol....me too.
No, he is NOT an ass!! Try being in a band, doing all the writing, organizing, composing, all the effort, while some lazy musicians you are working with, show up sometimes, play like they dont give a fuck, and show no enthusiasm, but expect full pay, but they act like they dont give a fuck, and put in the bare minimum effort. He is not being a dick, think how much bullshit he may have already put up with! Imagine you had a business and your workers did the bare minimum, or even less.. while you did everything!! He is the employer, he has a right to bitch about it..
Bottom line, Buddy was one of the most amazing drummers in the history of music. He was astounding every time he played. He had a big heart, and championed young musicians like myself. He had one of the quickest wits you would find anywhere, and a great sense of humor to boot. All this far outweighed the periodic temperamental outbursts (which were also very funny most of the time). I am forever grateful for the opportunity to play in Buddy’s band.
Bob Mintzer, March 25, 2013
Well you, sir, are a true gentleman.
I know some of these musicians that suffered this personally. You want to know how much of a perfectionist Buddy was? All of these guys he's lambasting are bonified prodigies.
DEEP
“Prodigies” = 90% spoiled brats who thought they knew it all already.
Just fyi it's "bona fide" lol
@@RoboSlaughter nobody cares.
@@american_cosmic They should.
Buddy rich lines are used as some of the funniest Seinfeld lines ever! "Step outside and I'll show you what it's like!!!!!" Outstandingly vague and hilarious.
“No one could write that! Only Buddy Rich could have threatened physical violence with that particular terminology.” --Jerry Seinfeld.
Seinfeld discussing this brought me here.
Buddy had a hard time pulling good players in his later years, and an even harder time keeping them.
Anyone wonder why?
yeah, because they sucked, and were lazy!!
maybe this is the inspiration for the maestro in the drums movie
whiplash
Whupplash!!
Michael Craig right, this audio really made me remember JK Simmons...
Buddy have a Snickers!
You know how you get when you see a beard.
"Don't point that beard at me, it might go off!!!!" --Groucho Marx
hahahahahahahahahaha
😂😂😂😂
YeahNaaahhh that was for when he was calm...
...not feeling himself :-/
Every young musician should listen to this on the way to every gig...
Yeah
why
There's at least one RUclips video of compilations of band fights onstage. That's also a good reminder of the dark, sleazy side of things.
@@michaelmurphy987
Maybe so they won't suck (like you must).
No!
“You’re breaking my heart out there!” Every line is gold.
I met a sax player who played with Buddy for 2 years. He said Buddy yelled a lot but wasnt wrong. He would compliment you if you played well and this is what you get if you didn't. A real legend.
makes sense. he is saying something here. it's not just a bunch of ad hominem.
It was not quite his tempo :/
Lololol
He said, "What are you trying to play, clams?!!!!"
Classic. LOL
Joe Domingo Mmmm....Interesting... How do you actually play clams?? -- Aren't they something like, err.... shellfish??
Samdara L I wonder if Buddy was pushed to perfection as a child prodigy, so that either his parents or the vaudeville theatre owners could make more money. As they say "He who is bullied becomes a bully." "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition." (1 Timothy 6:9)
Buddy was known to be a really self-absorbed and a very mean band leader just like the music director in the movie Whiplash. Apparently both the student and the professor in the movie are character traits of Buddy. It is what happens when you have too much passion for what you do. This is from an old friend
What do you play, CLAMS????
What is a clam?.....(what is a burn note?). Not finding the answer through googling
an off note, out of tune, not on the chart.
ha! Ok, that makes sense, of course. Just never heard of clams. Thanks. I am officially, more hip!
The entire time I thought he was saying, "flams."
glad im not the only one
“I can hear everything, fuck what you hear..”
That shit is awesome
I first heard these in 1998 when on tour. We drove across the country listening to these over and over. Still amazing 20 years later.
I've heard these tapes many times. I was a student of Buddy's back in the early 80's, and had a conversation about this with Steve Marcus. I was about 21, Steve I believe was 40 or so, and Buddy was about 60. From what I understand, Buddy went through these rants as his way of trying to discipline his band when he did not feel they were tight, as he did not know how to otherwise handle them. He would pull everyone back onto the bus and go at it. I can tell you that from my time with him, he had a temper as he was impatient, but I never heard anything like this while with him. I do know that if you review clips of the band, you will see that whenever Buddy soloed, the players had their eyes peeled on Buddy. I was told that he had ordered this, as the players were not always watching or paying attention as the solos ended, and were otherwise missing their entrances. This is what I know about that. Brian Choper
Was my impressions as well
Brian Choper
Try his disiplin today with the 'Snowflakes' and you'd be sued by the fashist police.
Buddy is one of my favorite percussionist because he was self taught and flamboyant with confidence nobody could match. Just an observation from afar.
what was your first impression when you were in his band for the first time
You say you were one of his students
When did Buddy teach??
@@denverdanoreno - Confidence does not require rudeness and lack of empathy. The latter two demonstrate a clear shortcoming on his part that is the opposite of admirable.
6:01 "you all... you're not my kinda people" quasi-Seinfeld line (The Understudy)
6:40 "up there without all the assistance" Seinfeld line (The Butter Shave)
11:20 "or I'll show you what it's like" Seinfeld line (The Opposite)
Thank you sir.
Classic, love how Jerry reused these lines
I stumbled upon this video after searching “this guy .. this is not my kind of guy” 😂
Seinfled loved these tapes for sure/
This comment should be the most upvoted. Many thanks
Ive been leading bands all my life and Im embarrassed to say that years ago I used to equate being an asshole with being a good bandleader. So grateful I finally saw the light. In no way shape or form is anyone ever deserving of this kind of verbal abuse. Im the luckiest person to share the stage with such great people/musicians today and could never go back to being the ungrateful person I was.
Every one of these musicians shdv walked rt the fk out on Rich. Integrity is everything. I dont care who you are.
I absolutely agree. I don't care if he's right or wrong in what he's saying. People should not be treated like that,and I would have been gone the first time, preferably if he did it on stage.
@@stewartfenton7660 100%
@@stewartfenton7660 100%
The other point is how self-defeating it is. Nobody plays a wrong note on purpose. So you’re not going to improve their performance by lambasting them. It’s going to have the opposite effect. Nobody ever played better because they felt terrified, nervous, or lacking in confidence.
"You're breaking my heart out there!"
I saw him live when I was about a 12. He kicked one of the sax players off the stage and made him sit in the front row. Yikes.
Jeeez
Good Fuckin lame ass jazz players compared to Buddy
He was just mad people calling him buddy all the time
@@iansolo3402 He's not your buddy guy
@@Gregbaltzer I'm not your guy buddy
The Gordon Ramsay of the drum world haha
johnny_schwifty.soundcloud ... he had talent not the asshole Ramsey
Nope. Buddy was truly talented. Not some twat with an over-bloated ego.
@@zombywoof9188 Is it not possible that he was a truly talented twat with an over-bloated ego?
Not sure where a couple people here are getting their impression of Ramsay, but I doubt you've watched, read, or heard enough about him to make an accurate call. A lot of what you see from Ramsay on Hell's Kitchen USA, I believe, is contrived to a degree, and I remember reading that Ramsay himself admitted that he adds a little bit extra to spice it up for the audience. If you watch any other show with him on it, he doesn't come off anywhere near the same way a vast majority of the time...he's got the same demanding standards, but it's done in a much more calm way. I've also heard he's quite nice in person; not what I'd call egotistical, and he certainly has a gigantic amount of talent (albeit in food, not music).
No Gordon Ramsey is the Buddy Rich of the food world
Now we know where the heart attacks and brain tumors came from.
It might just be me, but I don't think he sounded too happy.
I used to play this in my workshop at a music store in the 90's. A friend who also worked there, would come by and hang- and after a while, we'd memorized this word for word.. first- for our amusement, we'd lip synch it, and then, after we got tired of doing that- we'd recite it in Lou Ferrigno voice.
This is exactly how every school band director acted from 5th to 12th grade. Now, I don't tolerate raging drama in a band. If I'm not smiling and loving the peeps I'm playing with, then I just can't do it. I won't play with assholes no matter how good they are. Music is Love.
I’m sure you could admit Buddy Rich’s situation is a lot different it was much more than just having a good time.
shut up wiliam and just come back to the band..we had something special....
My high school band teacher was like this. Your Freshman year everyone was intimidated. By your Senior year you were like “fuck this mother fucker” and you knew he couldn’t do anything to you. It really was a mess.
I met him when I was 7 or 8yrs old...he gave me the sticks he used in the show! it made the local paper (I have that pic/article) ...but I wish I still had the drum sticks..
Ouch...
I have them I grabbed them from you and I stole your lunch money too..haha
3 years late to ask: what happened to them?
He did the same with me....I was 14 and still have mine. :)
He also did the same with me 3 years ago
This is exactly how James Taylor spoke to his band before he mellowed out and went solo.
He reminds me of my highschool choir teacher. He always expected the best from us, no exceptions, and if we screwed up badly he would call us out just like this.
you can get the same quality without having to resort to being an unhinged dickhead.
@@michaelmurphy987 your feelings get hurt that badly? Really?
lol i sense Whiplash
If your high school choir teacher was like this, he was insane
Its different when it is in the professional realm and the school realm with kids.
This sounds like me talking to my phone or computer. I don’t talk to people like that.
I had the "pleasure" of meeting him once in Savannah GA when he did a show on River Street. Though he was polite, you could sense the energy and anger boiling within him.
he's performing even when he's not playing drums
I worked with Beethoven. He was a bit irascible at times.
Yeah, remember the time he was conducting the premiere of his ninth symphony, and he kept waving his hands after the piece ended? Wasn't that a thing? And then we took him to dinner afterward to celebrate and he threw a fit? Ah, those were the days.
Yeah, me too.. he got mad and said I was just a Bach and Roller!
I met him during my campaign, I asked him to sign my violin and he bit the strings off. Dude's a dick.
Yeah rage makes anyone exaggerate.
Me too. Ol’ Ludwig could barely hear me when I told him his music lacked a back beat and some feel. It was just a myriad of string runs with nice dynamics...however, I had to move on. I wanted to play a dance groove and he broke his foot trying to move along to it. Ol’ Ludwig.. Music is still around, but just old folks about to die listening to it. Oh well.
This is hilarious. It's easy to understand why Larry David was so fascinated.
i agree. it is hilarious. i wouldn't have taken it personally.
“Keep your mouth shut, or I’ll close it for you!” - opposite George.
I worked as a stage hand for Buddy once as a kid.
He screamed at us the whole time.
It was amazing,he was my hero.
Certainly the best drummer in the world.
Huh 🤔
@@dibaz1 wha?
You must enjoy being belittled. Might want to see a shrink...
i know this is a joke because an old boomer wouldnt have a sense of humor to write this comment in such a way...funny story though
"WHO PUT THESE HOLES IN MY BELTS!!!?"
How is this not the top comment!?
Lol!!!!!! I was late to this party..... i was busy building a fort
@@regretfully77 Great job, NONE OF YOU!
What was scary was that there was NOBODY in the room when he was cursing them out.....he was by himself!!!!!
lol
Seriously?
That's really funny
@@jeremywong1688 haha no, he just didn't allow anyone to speak when he is chewing them out
Rofl
Here's the thing. He was a true vaudevillian who demanded nothing less than perfection. Also, some instances he did this to try and motivate his band (whether it works or not). Sometimes it was to try and impress his wife when she was walking by, or maybe it was due to him not getting a smoke.
Also, that trombonist worked for a year more after this instance, because he was an Aussie who didn't shirk away from Rich's rant. Actually gained a ton of respect from Rich for not backing down.
Lastly, Buddy really was a great person under it all. The only time he EVER got violent was when defending some of the saxophone players in a band when Sinatra ripped them a new one when, in Buddy's words, "they weren't at a level to take that kind of criticism." And then Sinatra threw a water pitcher at Rich, and the fight happened.
haha she msut be a piece of work if she found this impressinve!
Michael Ozayu don't you mean nothing less than perfection? you have no business on this comment board, none, get the fuck off . Now. !!!we are professionals having intelligent conversations and you are talking like a child. You don't even know your clichés. how dare you? Do you know who your talking to, and so on
You having fun?
I'd rather trust the word of Mel Tormé, one of Buddy's closest friends, than anyone else. Just saying.
Er...Michael Ozayu is right, he couldn't tolerate drinkers & preferred the herb. I hope your playing is better than your command of diction...
This child's a professional the last 25 years - you?
Well said, sir!
J.K. Simmons studied these rants I'm sure
"Not my tempo" is strokin' compared to this.
Gordon Ramsay must've learned from Buddy Rich.
Buddy’s best spoken word album
Worthy of a Grammy for spoken word category.
This is exactly what he was like. I worked for him for about a year. He used to yell at people on the band stand in front of the audience, too. Ego and an anger problem. I did hear some great music, but whoa...
What year did you work with him?
Hey Nadler, name the dates and places you worked with Buddy...never saw your name on a record with B or saw you live.
I think it is a shame when we condone the bad behavior of people who are considered to be "somebody", when we would scorn the same behavior in a "nobody".
I never knew Buddy Rich was in Terminator Salvation....
Quinn Rollen Ooohh Good for YOUUUU!!!! 😂🤣
The Bobby Knight of music....
6:01 Seinfeld
6:40 Seinfeld
11:19 Seinfeld
He was a real perfectionnist. He was really demanding towards himself and towards his musicians. Not tolerating any mistakes or flaws.
Really ? 😆
I heard he was a motivational speaker on the side
Lol
"THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES"
IN the big band world this is called quality control.
J'Mac ! Amen to that!
My Dad talked to my brother and I like that daily. Especially when mowing the lawn. OUR LAWN WAS IMMACULATE. Thx Dad!
Ours too, but it wasn't a good approach. It worked, but it wasn't good.
In all fairness, 50++ years of leading a band and playing night after night, this is bound to happen with almost anyone!
Of course not.
Imagine Buddy Rich and Ginger Baker in the same room.🤣🤣
Bruh they would throw hands foshizzle
It would come to blows , Buddy , how dare you play that kind of sh## on stage !! Ginger , what , I'll tear you limb from limb.
That's a fight I'd pay to see. They were both jerks. If I had to favor a winner, I'd go with buddy. Faster hands and feet in general, and a black belt in karate. I don't know if ginger Baker had any kind of martial arts training.
I could see it already. Budweiser presents along with Don King promotions: the fight of the century... Hailing from England in the red corner Ginger Baker. And in the blue corner Hailing from Brooklyn new York. The drum wonder: Buddy Rich. They step to the center of the octagon. Alright men, I want a good clean fight. Obey my instructions at all times. Protect yourself at all times. We went over the rules in the dressing rooms. Are the fighters ready. Are the judges ready. Air horn sounds. We all know that rest.
God almighty lol
oh no!
Were you rushing or were you dragging?
+Don Blackburn I dont know
+Orko Sen lol
+Orko Sen Sure you do
LOL
Fuck off johhny utah turn my pages BITCH
Pfft... He's an angel of mercy compared to my mom when she yelled at me... true story. :)
I thought you meant he would use some ancient jazz ritual to curse his bandmates
Buddy Rich's delivery is flawless. His tapestry of four letter words extraordinary. And his cadence, ah, exquisite. It's a rare talent to cut people down to size the way Buddy Rich does. He's no longer the master of the beat, he's the king of verbally beating others to a pulp with his floriant words.
This reminds me of the story Rupert Holmes tells about turning down the chances to be introduced to Cary Grant and John Lennon, as he did not want to risk a bad encounter spoiling his appreciation of their art. You don't want to meet public figures you love!
Yep, never meet your heroes.
This is what happens when you're constantly under a lot of pressure, real and imagined. Walk a mile in my shoes
No excuse. Me, pro
I'm Buddy Rich when I fly off the handle.
What could it be? It's a mirage!
You're scheming on a thing, that's SABOTAGE!!!! 😂
beasties!
Ive heard that song so many times but never realized thats the lyrics.
well played!!!!
Buddy really needs to speak his mind once in a while, holding in his frustrations just isn't healthy.
Bro he dead lmfao
He needed to take up boxing then, not try to box his musicians.
Hahaha
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Buddys personality perfectly mirrors his drumming and his drumming perfectly mirrors his personality
My band director I had 20 years ago said this and I never forgot it.. “Every band needs 2 drummers just in case one ends up in jail...”
Buddy was quite the tyrant.. it’s funny to hear these audio clips, but I’m not so sure Buddy was disappointed exclusively with their playing. It’s likely he clammed a couple times too. I mean nobody is perfect. It’s also possible he did these rants, in part, simply to spew out all the negativity he had welled up inside. None the less, these clips are extremely entertaining. He definitely kept the egos trimmed down while he worked on puffin his up.
Haha. Very Good. that drummer - jail stuff.
Reminds me of a boss I had in my youth. My first day on the job, I was asked to do some volunteer work for the company. A few days later, I showed up at the place and started to do my bit. Somehow I was in the wrong area. He, the boss, came around (my first time meeting him) and started hollering at me for being such a fuck up. I took his abuse and found the right location. He was a bully who used his position as leverage against people who didn't have his kind of power. He always would from time to time threaten each and every one of us with termination. It's scary when you're trying to pay the bills. Some of us had kids to support. And we had no union. We basically all hated him and still do. The best day was when he got fired by those higher up because he was stealing funds from the company. I later met him in the street and he was a fat nobody. Never even cared to cuss at him back. Left him far behind. I wonder how some of Buddy's hired band players thought of him. Sure Buddy was the best, but was he still a somebody after they were no longer playing for him and met him in the street? A job is a job.
Just remember, Charles Mingus used to punch out his sidemen. Benny Goodman used to "glare" menacingly at his band. Glenn Miller used to be real "rough" on his band.
+eaglestrike1000 mingus threatened to punch out Oscar Peterson, but when face to face he asked Oscar why they never played together
drugs--you are not dealing with a rational being
The Dorsey brothers fought with each other. Before becoming a full time arranger, Nelson Riddle played trombone with them and sometimes had to physically stand between them. And they were blood brothers. They later, of course, went their own ways - Tommy and Jimmy.
And in the Euro-centric Classical Music World, don’t forget Maestro Toscanini’s famous temper tantrums.
Where's the part where Buddy discovers he's being recorded?
9:37 “I got a right hand to your fuckin brain if you want it” lmaoo this dude
And this is why I’m glad to be a jazz guitarist. No one pays attention to the guitarist in a big band. Just stay out of the bassist’s and pianist’s way, and you’re golden. It’s all 3rds and 7ths for this guy right here, and maybe an upper extension if I think the pianist isn’t paying attention. Haven’t been yelled at once!
“I’m a swell guy, I’m a reasonable guy”
Back when I was in music college , my roommate got called to play with Buddy Rich's band . He was gone for a couple of weeks then one day he just returned to the apartment. I asked what happened , he said it was just a short term gig but he heard him flipping out on the bus .
This is what happens when you're a true perfectionist...it's never good enough!
This is what happens when you're a true asshole
Buddy Rich was blessed with incredible talent. One of the best drummers ever. Unfortunately not so much as a human being. I have no respect whatsoever for 'leaders' who cannot lead without expressing themselves in this manner. I had management responsibilities over my working career and one of my principles was never to dress down or correct subordinates in front of the rest of the group. True the musicians in his bands were paid to do their jobs but that is no excuse for the disrespect and temper outbursts Buddy was infamous for.
Ha, in your country management refuses to talk to working men at all... They just take all the money, and ignore the people who do the actual work.
Buddy’s behavior is always justified he’s simply a god and deserves to have a band that can match his greatness
@@AzlanValentine Abuse in a professional setting is never justified. If he's upset with a band's performance he could have just fired any problem members, there was no shortage of musicians at the time that would rip their nuts off to play for Buddy Rich.
Estiendo su postura, pero estos músicos además de tocar tenían vicios, alcohol, drogas, etc, normalmente en una fábrica la gente no va drogada o bebida a trabajar, por eso usted tuvo un trato educado con sus subordinados, pero en la música es otra cosa, mire la historia de los grandes artistas muertos por la droga.
@@AzlanValentine You're completely delusional
Haha now we know why Buddy was the ONLY person who could shut Frank Sinatra up
I believe him and Frank almost came to blows when Buddy was working for him. I heard they had a bad argument one night on the bandstand.
@@timstanford3220 Quarreling with Sinatra could be bad for your health. Even joking with him could get yer ribs broken.
@@timstanford3220 : Buddy NEVER Worked for Frank Sinatra!The incident you were referring to was when Buddy and Frank both worked together as featured members of Tommy Dorsey Orchestra in the 1940s!
Watch interviews with him. He was a real jerk. Especially in his mid life, he was a real pretentious, stuck up person. Plenty of guys with his talent didnt act like this.
joshua lutz I heard worse than this from our high school basketball coach.
I heard worse when I was in basic training .
It's more entertaining than anything. Take with a grain of salt
No drummer/bandleader has had the raw talent/fame he had before or since.
Wouldn't make an Irish parish priests blink.
My dad took me to a concert back in about 1975. I was about 10 years old. He fired a tenor player right off the bandstand in the middle of the concert. Unreal.
tonybell7 ....🤘🏻Bad Ass 🤘🏻
@@caseyplooy1696 that is far from badass dude
Also wanted to add that I think Buddy Rich was the type of guy that thought "If you're not going to do it the right way, then don't do it at all." That's just my opinion though.
“You’re breaking my heart out there!”
One of my all time favorite videos.
From wikipedia: Rich's temper was documented in a series of secret recordings made on tour buses and in dressing rooms by pianist Lee Musiker, who concealed a compact tape recorder in his clothing while on tour with Rich in the early 1980s. On one recording, Rich threatens to fire trombonist Dave Panichi for having a beard (can be heard at 9:10)
Buddy is still cussin' 'em down in his grave
With the utmost respect for Buddy Rich's accomplishments and amazing playing ability I write this: If Jack Webb from Dragnet and Drill Sgt Hartman from Full Metal Jacket were combined and had a band, this might be what they sounded like. I can see why Jerry Seinfeld wrote three of the bits into his show. It is hilarious, but a tad Fascist, to put the description mildly.
Good point. He is definitely frustrated. My use of the term "Fascist" was an exaggeration for comedic effect. Rich was a great drummer, an emotional guy, and maybe a bit psycho. But I love that about him. I can listen to these tapes over and over.
Imagine all the stuff that was said before someone decided to start recording :)
I just wish someone recorded his arguments with Frank Sinatra... Dude would beat his drums to the max just to piss off Frank
I was going to play a clam tonight but... well, not now
"Sir, this is a-Wendy's"
Even better, thanks.
I saw Buddy and his band when I was in college (early 80s), it was winter time in Illinois, and somehow the whole band didn't make it to the gig because of very bad snow on the roads. At any rate none of the trombone players made it to the hall, and Buddy's attitude on the mic was, in so many words, fuck the bone section, you came to see me.
It was quite a moment for a kid who was still doe-eyed about the music business...
I saw him play as a teenager @ The Electric Factory in 1969 (Phila)
We went in his dressing room signed an autograph for me.
The guy I was with was also a drummer he asked him about "financial trouble" and Buddy got really pissed.
I knew he was this way. He taught karate in the Marines during World War II
So he could back up his big mouth.
Buddy Rich was in the Marines ? Wow no wonder he was like he was.
Like Ginger Baker; an unpleasant human being.
I'm real glad that Ginger and Buddy didn't end up in a drum battle. Someone would have died there.
Perfectly put. There’s no excuse for behaving this way. No humility. The greatest leaders don’t shout like this.
@@jamesandrade1668nonsense
...the REAL version of "not quite my tempo".
I wish I could remember the guy's name,from south Philly. He chased buddy out of a club in A.C.
Ya can't mouth off at everyone,there's always that one guy...what a strapper he must have been to work for.
According to Musiker, “These tapes were made because I knew that they were historic.” “Through it all the message was excellence and perfection and bringing your best talent to the bandstand. Buddy always played at 200%. He just pushed it to the max and that’s exactly what he demanded from everybody.
He makes Chef Gordon Ramsay sound like a sweet kitten.
I've heard that Tommy Dorsey was really tough as well.
Anyone think that Buddy had a mood disorder (BP), perhaps?
The movie Whiplash is definitely based on this guy... Amazing!
I saw Buddy play around twenty times. He always gave one hundred per cent. At times he gave a drum clinic in the afternoon and was wasted by that and then went to Scotts in the evening and gave it all again. I saw him bawl out third trumpet at Scott’s and made him play all the trumpet solos for the rest of the gig. Not an easy boss I guess.
You have to remember that at Buddy's playing level, it starts in his head and just transferring through his hands to the drums. So he's got a certain level of perfection in his head, and we all know how good he was. This means that perfection level that he strived for was likely beyond the normal backup player that he had on other instruments. So the little imperfections that they may not be aware that they were doing as they played, those were all clear as a bell to him. And as a player, when he got in front of an audience, he wanted all other players to match the same level of perfection on their instruments as he was on drums in order to present the music to the audience at a perfection level as a whole. If an instrument or two faltered at some point, the whole song is ruined, at least in his mind. I play guitar but I'm not good at it. If I was actually good at guitar, I wouldn't have to work so hard to learn to play what I play. That stuff comes easy to guitar players who really are good. Anyway, with that said, I've played in bands with others locally. And when other players don't put in the time and effort to learn a song on their instrument to the level that I did on mine, it is quite frustrating. They do a half-ass version, then want to actually go gig! I'm not going to get in front of an audience with the songs sounding like that. So I know where Buddy is coming from. Its important to him for every instrument to play at the level he knows he's playing at on the drums. And when it doesn't happen, especially at his level playing on TV and such, that would be frustrating. In reaction to this vid, if you want to see Buddy pleased with the performance of other band members, go find Buddy playing with Johnny Carson's band on the Tonight Show. After he's done playing and goes and sits by Johnny, one of the first things he says is a compliment about how good of a job they did backing his playing. I'm sure that is what he strives for, to play along with others who ace their parts as well. For a player, nailing that song is a feeling that can't be matched. That's what he strived for and wanted, and obviously blew his stack when he couldn't get it, as this vid proves.
Yes, like a capricious child
As a drummer who idealized buddy, I met him in Cincinnati at Beverly hills supper club, beef and boards, the zoo, Bogart's ECT. I was a teenager hanging out with my second father Jack Volk the T V show drummer for Ruth Lyons and Bob Braun as his student we were like brothers. Jack knew all the famous jazz drummers. One night Louie bellson called to say he mailed some charts to jack to use in his band and I nervous as hell when jack handed me the phone, I couldn't believe who I was talking to. Jack always included me in everything he did God rest his soul. Buddy on the other hand was an inexcusable asshole, always nice to me signed autographs ECT. But the he cussed Ross konikof and Steve Marcus so Beverly hills right in front of us made me and jack sick. From 1980 on, many guys could play up to him. Father time got buddy to. R I p buddy .
That’s all well and good, until you have to get of the fuckin bus