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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +21

    Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

    • @Plane_pancake
      @Plane_pancake Год назад +1

      Love your videos keep the amazing work up

    • @kf91274
      @kf91274 Год назад +1

      Pretty please???

    • @mikeyplayzwrld
      @mikeyplayzwrld Год назад

      More SU-57 and F-22 please

    • @tmytyson
      @tmytyson Год назад +2

      Rally your buddies for the Battle of the Canards: A dogfight battle royale featuring (at a minimum) the SU30SM Flanker-H, Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, and JAS39 Gripen. May the best 'nard win.

    • @Matisaro
      @Matisaro Год назад +1

      Any particular reason why once you lose a wing or something and KNOW the fight is over you don't empty the gun and spray and pray as you spin out of control for a lucky double kill before you eject?

  • @sogerc1
    @sogerc1 Год назад +295

    Toxic always puts on a good show. You should've done a 3rd round to have a winner of the day.

    • @tarn1135
      @tarn1135 Год назад +4

      Spoiler! 😂

    • @alphazuluz
      @alphazuluz Год назад +5

      Yeah the two round 1 to 1 videos drive me crazy.

    • @wren7195
      @wren7195 Год назад +4

      Came down here to see and say this, GS made a lot of mistakes, but Toxic did some of his best flying today too. REALLY stuck with it and held firm, made some great reactions. Good vid.

    • @0BuLLeT01
      @0BuLLeT01 Год назад +3

      I think the idea was to show that either aircraft could win.

    • @sogerc1
      @sogerc1 Год назад +1

      @@0BuLLeT01 And I think the idea was that a 14 minute video was long enough.

  • @Webbamaet
    @Webbamaet Год назад +129

    Love to see you explain your opponents mistakes, but love hearing you call your mistakes out as you make them even more. Goes to show you have extensive dogfighting knowledge and as someone who is learning to fly on dcs for the first time thats super helpful. Keep up the great work and thank you for the constant education its spot on.

    • @localracer
      @localracer Год назад +4

      “Extensive dogfighting knowledge” “Dcs n real life is totally diff” What a time to be alive!

  • @idiedoof4339
    @idiedoof4339 Год назад +46

    Day 25 of asking for Viper vs Jeff BVR

    • @Lord_Frogsford
      @Lord_Frogsford Год назад +2

      This needs to happen!

    • @steve390gold
      @steve390gold Год назад +4

      Who is Jeff?

    • @idiedoof4339
      @idiedoof4339 Год назад +8

      @@steve390gold Jeff is the nickname GS gives for the JF-17

    • @albclean
      @albclean Год назад +2

      Day 26,
      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @idiedoof4339
      @idiedoof4339 Год назад +1

      @@albclean You kept count?🤣

  • @treeWasNice
    @treeWasNice Год назад +18

    Day 111 of asking for AH-64 Apache versus Su-57 Felon

    • @Casual7646
      @Casual7646 Год назад +5

      Let me tell you, 111 days of asking this is totally crazy. but I respect you

    • @Of_Your_Volition
      @Of_Your_Volition Год назад +1

      I hope this is to come soon as you have been asking for a while

    • @Of_Your_Volition
      @Of_Your_Volition Год назад +2

      I may not be the Lorax and I don’t speak for the trees but this tree wants a remake of top gun starring an Apache!

  • @section8usmc53
    @section8usmc53 Год назад +56

    Being on one of those rooftops and watching a low altitude, within visual range dogfight dogfight would be so friggin epic. Unless of course you happen to catch some stray rounds or, you know, a missile.

    • @steve390gold
      @steve390gold Год назад +10

      In San Antonio, about 20 years ago, I watch 2 F16s conducting BFM WAAAAAAAAAY low to the ground. Like 200 feet off of the deck....which is odd considering they have a 5000' elevation hard deck.
      About blew my eardrums out.
      This was northwest of the city off of Roft Road. Back then there were minimal developments out there and no sea world

    • @grimwaffle5272
      @grimwaffle5272 Год назад +1

      Souvenirs. Now you have a story and a memento

    • @panachevitz
      @panachevitz Год назад

      Or those two wings from Round 1.

    • @juangallegos6786
      @juangallegos6786 Год назад +3

      @@steve390goldI work at San Antonio aquatica as a lifeguard and about 2 months ago I was on stand watching the water when out of nowhere, 2 vipers in close formation flew directly over my head at about 1200 feet elevation (or what felt like it) and only around 250ish knots. And then proceeded to split off and fly around chasing each others tails over the park for a few minutes. Never seen something like that happening over aquatica and it was the highlight of my day.

    • @doom3d45
      @doom3d45 Год назад

      Safe to say catching a missile would not be epic 😞

  • @NoName5589
    @NoName5589 Год назад +52

    I can't get enough of the F-15, it's such a glorious plane. The fact we push so much performance out of a tennis court sized airplane is amazing

  • @Majima_Nowhere
    @Majima_Nowhere Год назад +48

    Comparing the F-15C to F-15E is like comparing a Flanker to a Fullback. They look similar, but that's about it.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +28

      This is actually a great comparison. Couldn’t agree more with this.

    • @nobeltnium
      @nobeltnium Год назад +5

      i never know there was a Su34 vaiant. That's so cool

    • @Majima_Nowhere
      @Majima_Nowhere Год назад

      @@nobeltnium Yeah man, I love the Hellduck. After the F-4, it's my next wish for an official module in DCS.

    • @nobeltnium
      @nobeltnium Год назад +1

      @@Majima_Nowhere oh now its hellduck. Jeez these guys at NATO really do love making names arent they 😂

    • @Majima_Nowhere
      @Majima_Nowhere Год назад +4

      @@nobeltnium Fullback is the NATO name, Hellduck is the Russian nickname. Like how the Su-25 is the "Frogfoot" to NATO, but the Russians call it "Rook"

  • @bluered3228
    @bluered3228 Год назад +4

    Anything can kill anything if fought properly? Sopwith Camel vs F22

    • @stevepreskitt283
      @stevepreskitt283 Год назад +2

      It counts if the Camel can catch the Raptor on the ground!

  • @wren7195
    @wren7195 Год назад +28

    12:42 can we take a moment to appreciate DCS making the effort to show rounds WAY off in the distant ocean continuing to drop as GS floats down? The splashes from those heavy rounds still heading back to earth... impressive attention to detail, and necessary for a combat sim (those things stay dangerous, obviously).

  • @TwistedSheriff
    @TwistedSheriff Год назад +13

    I doubt DCS has a module for it but it would be interesting to see a "what if they actually tried it" scenario with the XF-85 Goblin. The idea of sitting under a B-17 waiting for the enemy then launching off of it in a tiny jet is so strange and yet cool

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp Год назад +10

    Nice throttle control by the F-15 driver in that last fight.
    He had to know you would try and force the overshoot and managed things nicely.
    Good fights.

  • @NavajoMX
    @NavajoMX Год назад +7

    GS at 11:25: I'll try spinning - that's a good trick!

  • @abot4694
    @abot4694 Год назад +9

    YOOO that second fight was siiiiick!!! Watching him offset the circle to get nose-on (like you said in a previous video when the other aircraft is a better 2 circle) and some connections then you immediately swing back and nick his wing, was like an intense boxing match. Sick fight man, loving these daily uploads, always looking forward to it when I get a break.

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 Год назад +14

    Fantastic dogfights by both pilots!

  • @murph3194
    @murph3194 Год назад +9

    My guy, that was some exciting desperation trying to shake him from your 6. Very impressive dogfighting from the Eagle. I've seen you in desperate situations before when you manage to get the overshoot but ya never gave up. Great fight.

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Год назад +2

    Please fly The F-16I Sufa with Python 5's VS Gripen with IRIS-T's!👍

  • @natf5869
    @natf5869 Год назад +4

    Always look forward to seeing what's next. That F-15 is a totally different animal than the E. Howabout a F-4 vs F-16

  • @97BuckeyeNut
    @97BuckeyeNut Год назад +6

    The F-15 is such a pretty jet. I just love its angles.

    • @PyroBlonde7777
      @PyroBlonde7777 11 месяцев назад +1

      Me too. Its my favorite jet of all time. The color is somehow nostalgic as well. We have nothing that can go faster or climb harder than an F15!

  • @000-z8n
    @000-z8n Год назад +4

    Two really fun fights, even by your standards, GS.
    Toxic extending that circle was particularly interesting.
    Great commentary as usual.

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Год назад +1

    AV-8B VS F-35B
    MIG-29K VS SU-33
    F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II
    J-10 VS SU-27
    MB-339 Aermacchi VS MIG-15
    P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot
    Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado
    F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K
    Please fly Planes on the left!🙏👍

  • @RandyAlterReviews
    @RandyAlterReviews 6 месяцев назад +1

    3:46 he explained in this video it's F16C VS F15C , F15E is not a good at dog fighting

  • @Jay-O_Carlow
    @Jay-O_Carlow Год назад +1

    Love to see one more Phoon Vid bud ,, The Bandit unknown would be Fucking Mint
    And you been The ACE you are flying the Typhoon.. Would make for one Amazing Video , Plus keep all Us Europeans Super Happy!

  • @cszabo8899
    @cszabo8899 Год назад +4

    I expected some nice flying from Toxic, and that's exactly what I got. Great show!

  • @danielayers3054
    @danielayers3054 Год назад +3

    Man...that F-16 is ah 2 circle beast. I mean I haven’t seen something rate so quickly on that Eagle...just crazy. Hats off to Toxic for repaying the favor. Great job gentlemen.

  • @davecolwell725
    @davecolwell725 Год назад +2

    I love your videos so much. Damn what a beautiful thing to watch two beautiful aircraft in the F16 and the F15, especially with that beautiful water and beach below. Stunning.

  • @Fearless0813
    @Fearless0813 Год назад +2

    F-15 has been my favorite since I was a teenager back in the 70's.

  • @larsgottlieb
    @larsgottlieb Год назад +1

    'No worries there'? Dude, that family of squirrels had lived in that tree for Five generations! Five! And you just wipe out the lot of them for a less than 15 minute RUclips video.
    ..
    Monster ..
    /jk

    • @adasaddas
      @adasaddas Год назад +2

      Not to mention the fire hazard of those darn missiles!

  • @bitkarek
    @bitkarek Год назад +1

    GJ Toxic! my boi! ... i still like you GS :) GG

  • @FastHouseGaming
    @FastHouseGaming Год назад +2

    Ok, i knew i got the F-15's mixed up. And yeah, i think its all about how you actually fly the jet in my opinion, the air craft is as good as your ability will make it on any fighter jet. The pilot must know how each fighter works and how you use that aircrafts ability to get the best performance out of it.

  • @terminalfx
    @terminalfx Год назад +1

    Now stick that F15 against the EF2k, bvr or dogfight. A sight to behold, I'm sure.

  • @mrblablablabla
    @mrblablablabla Год назад +2

    That was some fantastic airmanship by Toxic. Bravo!

  • @TheThewulasvegas
    @TheThewulasvegas Год назад +1

    As a former 16 pointy head. Go Falcon!

  • @robertmuller279
    @robertmuller279 Год назад +2

    You show us how dominant the F-16 is in gun fights all time it’d be cool to see a modern dogfight with fox2s to see if the F-16 is still competitive at all

  • @kaijugaming2857
    @kaijugaming2857 Год назад +2

    Neat

  • @miirakk
    @miirakk Год назад +1

    You videos are amazing, greetings from Russia!!

  • @clairecelestin8437
    @clairecelestin8437 Год назад +2

    That's the perfect reminder as we start into this Autumn season. If you get slow, he'll beat you in the rake fight.

    • @wurfyy
      @wurfyy Год назад

      It's rape fight*
      *if you're flying the F-16 with blackout disabled like he does, anyway.
      Otherwise it's not all that rapey.

  • @benjaminkim1
    @benjaminkim1 Год назад +1

    F18 vs f16 high off bore sight

  • @yellow_creeper11
    @yellow_creeper11 Год назад

    Day 1 suggesting a-10 vs f-15 eagle. Two ground attack planes dogfight ❤ . Also need more tac view debrief

  • @christianperez8037
    @christianperez8037 Год назад +2

    I miss the old IL2 videos, love me the old WW2 era fights and bloopers

  • @Feuerschaf
    @Feuerschaf Год назад

    Tbh I don't understand the logic of the F-15E to be "not capable of dogfighting". Compared to F-15C: same aerodynamics, 8% higher empty mass, 22% higher thrust. F-16C compared to F-16A: same aerodynamics (from F-16A block 15), 12% higher empty mass, 22% higher thrust.
    So can anyone explain why the F-16C is still THE dogfighter while the F-15E suddenly cannot dogfight anymore ?

  • @opper4325
    @opper4325 7 месяцев назад

    You know, I always associate Fighters generations with metals.
    The F14 is bronze
    The F15 is iron
    The F16 is Steel
    The F18 is Gold
    F22 is Diamond
    This fight is steel against iron.

  • @soulrippers5652
    @soulrippers5652 9 месяцев назад

    you say F-15 C but you are figting F-15 Eagle, so E? or not? sorry I'm new to this xD

  • @src6339
    @src6339 3 месяца назад

    How many f16's can one build, deploy & staff for the cost of an f15?
    If this were a strategic simulation, wouldn't this be a 3 x f16's vs. 2 x f15's fight?

  • @MarcusDrall
    @MarcusDrall Год назад

    Day 252, 307th time asking for a reenactment of Sam City in the A6 Intruder from Flight of the Intruder, movie version. Talk to HeatBlur about their A6E.

  • @vized2415
    @vized2415 Год назад +1

    Damn pity there were only 2 fights. Great video tho!

  • @lasselahti4056
    @lasselahti4056 Год назад

    About dogfight with f-15C: If and when one looks f-22 and f-15c silhouette from upside view, it is pretty clear in which planes reference analysis f-22 is made of... :) More or less they are confusingly same looking, when you once see it. (sry raptor fans). (the basic forms)

  • @svensvensson2724
    @svensvensson2724 9 месяцев назад

    F-15 is the best aircraft design ever.
    50 years later it's still cream of the crop.
    The performance they got out of stable design, huge payload carrying giant is incredible.
    And it looks like a 50's Chevy too. Gorgeous.

  • @benjaminkim1
    @benjaminkim1 Год назад +1

    Flanker dogfight competition. Su 27 vs 30 vs 33 and so on

  • @Warthunderispain
    @Warthunderispain Год назад +3

    Love your channel

  • @whosjulez1157
    @whosjulez1157 Год назад

    Day 23 of asking:
    Can you do F-117 Nighthawk mission?
    Like a stealth evasion deep strike mission maybe

  • @jameslanning8405
    @jameslanning8405 Год назад

    "GS," Salute,
    Just wondering, was your aircraft in reheater the entire time? Or does the F-16 just run that hot?
    What!? No 2 outta 3?

  • @Dv087
    @Dv087 Год назад

    I would like to see... You look like a dominant pilot. (Don't let it go to your head). Make a video with 3 fights in the F-15 then immediately 3 fights in the F-16 in one video. I can't think of any better way than to show if it's the pilot or the plane. Remember don't get a big head, but I can't think of anyone who would not enjoy a video like that.

  • @paulybassman7311
    @paulybassman7311 Год назад

    6:10 that f15 splash killed 2 labradors and a squirrel.......🤣🤣🤣

  • @StarJackal
    @StarJackal Год назад +1

    You seem to really enjoy these F-16 vs F-15 Dogfights

  • @waldovantonder
    @waldovantonder Год назад

    Suggestion…. You and 3 other “Top Guns” in a 2v2 gun fight! Bring your own aircraft, swop on round 2.

  • @J_Flyer
    @J_Flyer Год назад

    Requeast: please make more video of the Mig-19 PLS~~

  • @potatoskunk5981
    @potatoskunk5981 Год назад

    A-10 vs F-86?
    A-10 vs different generations of jet fighter?

  • @tommytomas-fr3sh
    @tommytomas-fr3sh Год назад

    Make the fight between F-16A againts F-15c with all the available missiles.

  • @kfc41
    @kfc41 5 месяцев назад

    How do you counter an offset circle like the f-15 did? And how do you counter someone trying to counter two circle you?

  • @joelfrantz3189
    @joelfrantz3189 Год назад

    Day 6 of asking for F-35 vs SU-35 guns only dogfight. 😊

  • @sagigueta7294
    @sagigueta7294 Год назад

    The f16 is shit in the two circle fight, m2000 and the f18/14 are outrating it

  • @Andy47357
    @Andy47357 Год назад

    Day 45 asking for Huey Vs A-10

  • @mitch206
    @mitch206 Год назад

    Have you two been buzzing the "Calypso"??

  • @Override.Gaming
    @Override.Gaming Год назад

    Day 108 asking for a Gripen vs F18 fox 2 dogfight

  • @thepsychoticone615
    @thepsychoticone615 Год назад +2

    the crew on that warship is having one hell of a show

    • @stevepreskitt283
      @stevepreskitt283 Год назад +2

      "Tell the AA guys to stand down. Let them fight."

  • @icecardinal
    @icecardinal Год назад

    You should fly Eagle and Toxic the Raptor

  • @sorka7957
    @sorka7957 Год назад +1

    Nice fight, beautiful place

  • @SatchPersaud-sm1gc
    @SatchPersaud-sm1gc 4 месяца назад

    It's amazing how much stress and G these air frames can take on a daily basis..these engineers and designers are amazing

  • @The-tickle-pickle-worm
    @The-tickle-pickle-worm Год назад +1

    W

  • @davidnelson5381
    @davidnelson5381 Год назад

    Where is the 'Street Fighter' mirror match, Raptor vs. Raptor? When will I get to see that match?

  • @Prfactist
    @Prfactist Год назад

    I live in Saipan, you're fighting over my house.

  • @coquenomisticov5023
    @coquenomisticov5023 Год назад

    Now the same with Su27 and mig29 😁

  • @CaptainCalmer
    @CaptainCalmer Год назад

    Can't wait till I have a PC that can play this, great visuals 🤙

  • @MalletMann
    @MalletMann Год назад

    Would like to see F-15C vs F-22 dogfight.

  • @shamsunnabitaqib6180
    @shamsunnabitaqib6180 Год назад

    Please do more bvr fight rather than dog fight. We can seew different strategies on bvr

  • @FinFunnel68
    @FinFunnel68 Год назад

    ahh another great video here to watch as i’m sitting on the toilet celebrating my friend’s gf bday.

  • @Dimension2010
    @Dimension2010 Год назад

    GS forgot to move in relate to the opponent and was killed in offset two circle fight.

  • @mrprodigy7143
    @mrprodigy7143 Год назад +1

    I’m almost positive that plane hit somebody’s house

  • @subnine5
    @subnine5 Год назад +1

    That was a great dogfight. Both rounds.

  • @fruity2654
    @fruity2654 Год назад

    Bro Had to shoot both of his wings off just to be sure he gets the kill on that f15 lmao

  • @Monkey-556
    @Monkey-556 Год назад

    Day 10 of asking gs to recreate stroke 3 evading 6 sams

  • @cans2155
    @cans2155 Год назад

    Can you do a vid with the F-313 please?

  • @heathb4319
    @heathb4319 Год назад +2

    Please do a video on the F8 Crusader.
    AKA...the last gunfighter.
    I would love your opinion on it.

    • @Cortana_longfall
      @Cortana_longfall Год назад

      Sadly the F-8 is still under development and it is unknown how much longer.

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 Год назад

      @@Cortana_longfall ...You mean the model for DCS?

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 Год назад

      @@Cortana_longfall ...He also has his mini docs channel that he can do the history of on it.

    • @Cortana_longfall
      @Cortana_longfall Год назад

      @@heathb4319 yes, that particular aircraft.

  • @RyzawaVT
    @RyzawaVT Месяц назад

    Battle of the C's over the seas!

  • @ussgrisham
    @ussgrisham Год назад

    In the word of the legend It’s the man not the machine

  • @grug6682
    @grug6682 Год назад

    Did he actually offset the circle? Or was it pilot error

  • @SketchyKidz
    @SketchyKidz Год назад

    Day 13 asking for F-35 vs J-20

  • @wileygates4348
    @wileygates4348 Год назад

    Is there bombers you can fly in dcs?

  • @gogofuntime_yt
    @gogofuntime_yt Год назад

    F-16 VS A-10 might be interesting

  • @knndyskful
    @knndyskful Год назад

    How are you looking backwards and flying the jet??

  • @Bagel472
    @Bagel472 Месяц назад

    I am both a real cat person and a tomcat person

  • @Averagecartilistener
    @Averagecartilistener Год назад

    Day 88 of asking for A-10 vs F-14

  • @Dwe-j8e
    @Dwe-j8e Год назад +1

    F-5 vs f-4 phantom

  • @Cuccos19
    @Cuccos19 Год назад

    F-16 cammo looks like those late 30s' experimental "dazzle" cammo - P-36 Hawk and Brewster F2A (wrongly known as the "Buffalo", but it never called like it within the US forces) come in my mind first about it. That frigate/corvette was neutral or what? Didn't shot on any aircraft.

  • @Zermattquattro
    @Zermattquattro Год назад

    Day 2 of A10 vs ME262 guns only.

  • @justsmallstuff4994
    @justsmallstuff4994 Год назад

    Toxic is always pretty decent

  • @georgeboyred
    @georgeboyred Год назад

    I honestly believe that the F-15 was the best Air superiority fighter of all the 4 Generation fighters, but we should take the 104 kills with a grain of salt. Just for a little perspective at least, 25 MiG-21, 25 MiG-23, 2 F-4E, 2 Su-25, 4 Su-22 and 1 Su-7 make up more than half of its air to air Kills, which were mostly early to late 2nd and 3rd Generation Fighters, although it also has kills against late 3rd Generation Dassault Mirage F1s, MiG-25s, and the 4th Gen MiG-29s as well so it is certainly a proven effective and formidable Platform. For me its like a Boxer who fought bums in his early career which inflated his resume a bit, however when he stepped up in competition he showed he really was the real deal and not a hype Job at all.

  • @anngo4140
    @anngo4140 Год назад

    Okay but an F-22 vs F-16 in a 2 circle fight, who wins?

    • @NATEDOG2024
      @NATEDOG2024 Год назад

      F22 because it can get you no matter what your doing it’s very capable of getting you in any situation it just depends on how good the pilot is because if you know how to fly it it’s very deadly that’s why you don’t want to get in a dog fight with a f22

  • @nathaniellazo5912
    @nathaniellazo5912 Год назад

    My bet is on the Eagle
    Day 28: Ukrainian F-35 vs Russian units like your Ukranian F-16 video, an unlikely "what if" they get the F-35 instead of the planned F-16.
    Idea from Binkov's Battlegrounds.