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Day 3 of asking Can we get an f-35b vs av8b harrier dogfight? A vtol showdown
Probably been spammed many times but id like to see how you would handle an f35 flying it against some flankers or something like that
F-35 B Vs J-11 👍
gripen VS F-14 tomcat
Yes! A 2v2 finally! I would love to see a guns only 2v2.
Would love to see this from the Gripen perspective or more Gripen content in general
Definitely
Meteors are Allied Missile???? So why wouldn't the USAF use them until they had an equivalent???
@@krismurphy7711 Yes, Meteor is a European developed missile.
Yeah me 2! LOVE JAS 39 Gripen!
@@krismurphy7711 its a missile originally developed by the UK, France and Sweden, Later on more countries such as Germany joined to develop it and thereby making it the european answer to the AMRAAM. I think the UK is the largest Contributing partner to the project. America is developing its own equal to the meteor and i think the main reason for not using it is because they want to support american companies.
That would be terrifying watching a Meteor track you down like a bloodhound.
Just wants to talk to GS about his F-15's extended warranty.
here while it has 127 likes, 2nd reply
"WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?"
More like a bloodhound riding a cheetah! 💯
It would be a short terror.
Missiles really need to come with a health warning label: "Warning: merging with this object can be hazardous to your health."
😂😂😂
Note to self: Don’t merge with a Meteor missile…
The question is: when do you read the label…
Ideally before you merge with the missile. Not while you're merging, and definitely not after 🤣
@@Ankhobo Thanks. Good to know😉
It's crazy to believe that most of the 15s engineering was done with paper, rulers, and a pencil.
That was before CAD was mainstream.
It's crazy to believe today's engineering is done with a few electrons running back and forth somewhere
Maybe that’s exactly why it is so great 👍🏼
@@HuyV Crazy for a completely different reason.
The advanced versions of the Gripen are probably the most underrated and dangerous EuroCanard fighters.
Nope.
@@clownsallaroundyou yep.
@@andreabindolini7452 Nope.
@@clownsallaroundyou ok
seems to be some heavy cope and seethe on your part mister@@clownsallaroundyou
The Gripen is such a fascinating fighter for it's distributed defense strategy. So unique, would love to see more content on it!
And looks awesome too
And its sooo small !! @@ceboz
@@BullittMacDaddyThats why its radarsignature is so low.
@@BullittMacDaddyit needs to be small. Here in Sweden the placement of these aircrafts are "decentralized". Instead of being concentrated to airfield the enemy can bomb, the entire highway road system here is build so Gripen (and it's predecessor Viggen, way back in the 70s) could start and land. Built into this system along the highways are small concealed 1-plane bases, so the plane can land, back in and dissappear. So it needs to fit... 😉
The turnaround on these babies within this system is also ridiculously fast. 10 minutes to full re-armament and refueling, and it can be done with only one trained technician aided by 4-5 untrained conscripts. It's entirely built to strike hard and then disappear. Pop up from nowhere and strike again... Hit - dissappear. Over and over.
It's basicly guerilla warfare with airforce, brought on by the need to defend against the much larger Russia.
@@Malsum it may not be designed to stay up and tough it out against the red army, but god dude, the thing is great at doing it. it was given the nickname of "flanker killer" for a good reason. love the Gripen, by far one of my favorite jets
You know it’s bad when you look over and the missile you’re defending from is flying in formation with you 💀
*And it's closing in*
Not having a long-range air intercept capability _really_ holds the F-15 back. It's still an impressive airframe, but if it had JATMs or even Meteors combined with that radar....
That is what AIM-120Ds are for with an estimated range of 87-100mi depending on the source (true range is classified).
The AIM-260 JATM's range of at least 120mi will be a bit of an improvement though.
oh dude the Ds and the 260s have to be insane compared to the C, I mean, they literally HAVE to in order to compete with missiles such as the meteors@@Iwillfigureoutanamelater
@@IwillfigureoutanamelaterAs far as I know, the AIM-260 should be double the range or more of the AMRAAM (and the 120D's range is likely pretty understated with how the US releases information.) So the AIM-260 could definitely be a 200+ mile missile.
@@F22Lover That's insane. Goes to show how important data link is in this future battle space.
@@Iwillfigureoutanamelater yea it seems more modern day engagements are really about who has the longer range missiles (that still have a high probability of kill of course). The AIM-260 is such a huge step up.
You have to take your hat off to little Sweden (population about the same as North Carolina) for having such a robust, independent fighter jet program.
Shoutout to the Gripen for just looking sexy as hell
the term “Swedish Supermodel” is so on point
I love how the F15 is so overly engineered that all these years later it is still impressive
no such thing
U.S. fighter doctrine in general is like "Alright, in 40 years we'll be fighting UFOs. Let's prepare for that"
I mean the airframes are following simple design rules. Aerodynamics are not that different today. But they keep upgrading them. New engines, new missiles, new computers, new radars... So yeah, they are still "fresh", because they are upgrading them.
@@Gentleman...DriverYet there's no F-14's out there today.. we know. You're arguing semantics. Not many platforms are wildly successful many decades later like the Eagle.
Every aircraft to me is impressive
Man the standoff capability of that meteor is nuts
That shit was terrifying to watch, it was like that video where GS was in the flanker against the raptor and it formed up behind him
Like Great Aunt Ethel used to say: "Don't bring AMRAAMS to a Meteor fight." Everyone thought she was crazy, but in hindsight...
A suggestion GS, make these combats in two videos, one from each plane, so we can see the tactics from both perspectives.
I'm glad the Swedes are our allies.
I'm sad that sweden airforce is down from 700 fighters in the 1970 to 70 fighters.
❤
Damn, those Swedes don’t mess around.
I love the communication between you two.....[I merged with a Meteor], ....."Are you alive?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Impressive performance from the Gripen considering how much cheaper it is.
Prices in find is 30ish million for strike Eagle and 85 million for Gripen. Czechia just a few days ago choose the F35 over Gripen because it was cheaper.
@@Gunfreak19 F35 go for 200 mil a pop, so... not cheaper
@@barsanted lol where did you get $200 million? The flyaway cost of an F-35 is about $85 million, cheaper than the Gripen, Eurofighter, Rafale or F-15EX.
The Gripen is a very good plane but I think it's the meteor that made the difference here. It is without any doubt the best air to air missile in the world.
It's a pretty apples to oranges comparison. You have an air to air platform, reoptimized redesigned for ground target - deep strike and interdiction. Vs a small, high mobility TRUE multirole fighter.
The TRUE analoge US opponent to the Grippen is a current model Viper C with comparable loadout.
Cool 2 missions with both of you guys on both of your different channels! Thanks guys! Love the content GS!
I'd love to see this with 2 F35s. We all know they can't hold up in dog fighting very well, but would be great to see them up against strong non-stealth combatants in BVR.
@@logicplagueI agree, especially from what I've read from the Norwegian pilots' anecdotes they've got pretty good sustained turn rates whilst having excellent slow speed maneuverability. From what I understand it's got a slightly worse sustained turn rate than a clean f-16 but has significantly better acceleration, allowing for more options
Holy shit the anticipation from that first round of meteors was insane, just loitering in the air like that 💀
Please more videos with these two guys. They make me happy
just wanna take the moment to thank you for your incredible content
Formation flying with a Meteor. Now I’ve seen it all 😂😂😂😂😂
New wave of 2 vs 2 battles? Dreams really do come true
GS + LS energy is just contagious haha, it's always funny when these 2 get together for a video. Those meteor missiles really are something man, I only watch DCS, but they seem like the hardest missiles to defeat. Imagine the nerves looking at your 8 o'clock and seeing that thing sneak up on you. 💀💀💀
You two are an absolute hoot when you get together. Great fun to watch.
We have the facit from the real world: 3 F15s against a single Gripen C. Two F15s shoot down and one runs away! Don´t take my word for it, Google!
The meteor missile's range definitely played a big part in the 1st round, this is one of the many situations where a super long range missile can prove advantageous. Nonetheless great duo!
I love when you guys work together. The absolute best.
I love the fact that if alone, they both probably would’ve killed both gripens first time. I swear they’re -50 INT to each other and it’s the best part of my day
The closer they get to each other, the stronger the INT penalty. When they're in the same cockpit, that's when the real chaos begins.
You are superior at merging with meteors! Not many that has that unique skill. Nice to see as a Swede, even if we are on the same side.
Suggestion for a mission. Israeli F-35's doing bombing mission on Syrian territory bombing Iranian bases, but have to deal with Iranian SU-35's as well. I think that will be a great challenge! Love your guys' content!
The Gripen flatfrom is really impressive.
I flew them and had a lot of fun. Very capable aircraft.
Gripen content automatically gets a like.
That radar return is doing the F-15 no favors against such a good missle. If it had a missile to keep its opponents at bay, it would hold its own a lot better. I kind of wish the F15 2 would have taken some of the stealth aspects from the Silent Eagle, like the slanted tail fins, to help conceal that massive return hotspot.
Love to see more Gripen content!
Yeay! A Longshot partner video!
DIdn't know meteors could fly escort....
😂😂😂
Damn, those Meteors are scary good
Highly enjoyable fight. Great seeing you and Longshot as a flight. Thos meteors were no joke.
Would love to see more Tacview analysis, esp with these BVR fights.
Last time I was this early to the comments, AltaVista was still a thing. Awesome videos dude.
The radar and gripens ewar compabilities is just astounding for its age
Loving some 2v2 action 😊
Meteor flying in formation with you!! LoL
at 11:39 it's the perfect example of the Doppler effect . when traveling the same speed the missile can't see him but as soon as he changes speed it reacquires him.
It tracks him all the way up until he puts in the burner. Once he equalises speed it loses him for a second (doesn't make any attitude change). It then reacq's and I guess freaks out with that direction change compared to its last update. Not sure how well the stuff is modelled, but I wonder, why can it not see him. If the seeker is pulsing and looking for frequency shift within the returns then why does it not also use the negative? If the ground is really fast (relative vel) and the echoes from the air and clouds are also fast, why not look at the spot that is not coming toward you at all? I wonder if real Fox3's do this, or if there is an issue with it like the sky being a huge negative space. It's the same idea as Submarine's being a black hole with no sound compared to the water around. Don't look for something, look for the lack of something else?
I think the missile had track that whole time, especially because it sees him against the sky and not ground clutter so it doesn't need to rely on doppler. When he changes speed, the missile tries to change course to the new intercept point. I think the reason the missile pitches violently is because that's the precise instant when the missile can no longer calculate an intercept path, and we're basically watching it have a 'divide by 0' error.
I love the videos with you and Longshot. Keep it up guys. We need you in the AirForce ;-)
Would love to see a couple of Gripens against a couple of Su-35
In round 2, how would the meteor react if you climbed 30sec earlier? would it still have enough KE to climb with you?
We need to see more videos from the missiles perspective added to videos from now on. Those were cool to watch.
Another great video guys! You guys do good together, and at least have fun cause your usually both laughing...
Seriously, Canada should have chosen the Gripen over the F-35.
We are stil pissed you didn't ;)
“I’ve merged with a meteor”…
A Gripen came into a hangar
Tecnician asks: What kind of Fox 3s do you want?
Gripen: Yes
What a disadvantage to not be able to match the range on missiles. Tons of radar advantage but useless without the ability to attack from range.
F15 have a bigger radar but also have a bigger RCS.
The Gripen has a very low RCS, similar to a Stealth B2 Bomber.
Love the 2 v2 play, more of that please!
Amraams meteors And IRSTs?
Yeah, they were stacked beyond belief, I would want the f15EX, not the E- so I could Chuck 10 amraams at each foe literally...
/ EX is the true king of SPAMRAAM
The diamond on the TEWS represents a fox3, the closer it is, the closer it actually is. So if it's on top of you, it's on you.
Great dogfights! Modern air war is unbelievably tense.
First a fingertip merge with a meteor, then a formation merge with a meteor. All in the same vid. Impressive.
Hope you’re never gonna get tired of people saying “love seeing you and longshot together”
2023 study confirms that wings are essential for flying
2024 study confirms that if you strap enough trust to an object, it will fly.
The Meteor flying in formation with you! Fantastic.
I have had two Gripen go over my home slow on a low altitude, every car alarm in the neighborhood when off 😂
I'd love to see the Gripen NG in DCS, with that large digital screen, like the new brazilian Gripen.
I love Gripens, such a cool jet... Iam almost sad we dont get Gripens E/F even we will have F35 :D
Yeah Gripen E is truly trulynext level! An amazing aircraft
Gripen are one hell of a jet… if it had a lot of the sensors the f35 has it would be 10 times as lethal. A lot of these countries that picked the f35 over that made a mistake… from the things that are known about the f35.. I can’t see how they would do that. The classified stuff it can do must be very impressive
When I see you're doing a Longshot collaboration, I can't click fast enough.
@11:40 "Hello sir, do you have time to talk about our Lord and Saviour, High Explosiv-wait! Where are you going?!"
This battle was all about the quality of the missiles. The meteor is one of if not the best air to air missile.
Interesting to see aircraft from my last base (Seymour Johnson AFB, NC) on here! Especially the Eagles (blue) which are for the training side of ops along with the Lancers (red).
I was deployed with the Chiefs (green) and the other AMU (aircraft maintenance unit) that normally deploys for “real world” missions is the Rockets (yellow).
'What happened?'
'I merged with a meteor' xD
'Are you alive?'
Had me crying .
I'm a simple man... I see a new video from GS and I watch
You two are great fun. Always make me laugh 😂
I thought all current Swedish Grippens are grey...not painted like the Viggens... I could be wrong... Great vid!
Love your videos GS! Always a fun watch, dogfights or BVM :)
Gripen: “ÅÅÅÅÅÅH KASTA UT KASTA UT”
not sure if this will get seen, but it would be cool to see how the SU-57 stacks up against the russian 4th gen fighters like the mig-29 or a flanker
The Meteor makes any plane with a decent radar deadly to confront.
Jeez! Fly an F35 FFS!
It’s like musical chairs around the F35
Love those wingman videos. Keep it up! It’s also more realistic
Hard to fight the guys with the "I win" button. That's Perun's joke by the way, you know, the button which launches the Meteor.
Another video with Longshot. Thank you for this!!!
Honestly, I was expecting two losses, but great job.
those gripens with meteors are killers! more gripen vids :D vs F-35!
Now apply gripens with ghosting and all the sudden you get locked without even knowing there are planes in the air.
The Missiles are still able to track the target even after the rocket shuts off with those fins on it i didn't know that.
man imagine a real f15 pilot in wormation with a meteor missle man damn that missle is so good .
Love watching these two flights in a fight!
It will be very interesting for me to see F-35A vs. JAS-39. Since our army just decide to replace Gripens with F-35A. If F-35A will be able to use stealth and shot down Gripens before they get to close or merge and got shot down.
GREAT fights :) Thanks guys!
Curious, you both always team up to do great videos. Have you ever mentioned what setup you have and what you use to communicate? I assume you are not in the same room, state, or country?? Always great content with you both and funny too.
Hello, ya we are just talking over discord. If you're unfamiliar with it, it's like a free messenger service, can call, type, video as needed.
That DEATH TUBE or the Meteor missile is a vicious bloodhound that likes to stalk it's prey before it strikes.
Wish we had tacview for this one, I'd love to see how close all the meteors got
Two of my favourite aircraft in one video. 👍
Those gripens look so cool with that camo
There was different modifications of F-15, F-15E, F-15C, F-15AWACS, F-15SE, F-15EX, F-15STOL/MTD, F-15J, F-15I, F-15A...
But still... there was no F-15SEX
YOOOO THIS IS YOUR BEST VIDEO YET PLEASE DO MORE MISSLE POV THAT WAS FUCKING INSANE
fuck yeah it was
Our Gripen is a Great Aircraft but F15 is a couple of steps further! No doubt!
Idea for a new one: As you did a few weeks ago, one is Pilot and the other one is awacs Operator. But maybe this time do the video from the Operator sight. So you only got Radar screen sight and so on and only can hear the Pilots voice by radio and have to imagine the fight and his trouble.