I was betting on Annamiek van Vleuten winning the TDF Femmes avec Zwift and just yesterday, was feeling disappointed that she wasn't making a mark. What a change a day in the mountains can make! It is kind of strange, however, that the video makes no mention of Marianne Vos.
@@commonsensethecynosure1639 Are you me? Because Fabian Cancellara is my most favorite cyclist of all time. And I always knew Annamiek was special. I shouldn't have doubted her. Hopefully, Movistar do a good job of protecting her lead now.
For those of us not familiar with the female riders it would have been nice to hear that information from the coverage. I wondered the same thing. Could the Yellow Jersey’s team not pull her through? I guess they didn’t even try.
@@jeffmaccheyne4952 there's no way a team can pull a rider like Vos, who's not a pure climber, through 3 Category 1 climbs. If this was possible, Peter Sagan would have won multiple Tour de France races.
@@wujekg vos is not a climber, she wasn’t going for the yellow jersey at the end, but for the sprint races which she did brilliantly and with that came the yellow jersey.
@@wujekg Yes, it is a shame. Maillot Jaune is not just something, normally it is part of honor to defend it till the end or at least try to and also look at it even if change is clear. Anyway, it is difficult to stop van Vleuten when she is willing to win, but the rest should consider their tactics. It is one thing that she often wins and the other how she wins. However, it starts to become a serious tour now dominated by the competition more than crashes and strange events. It could become a great final now. Hopefully, there are some ideas how to at least anoy the leader a bit.
It's the same for Paracycling (for people with disabilities). The Dutch clean up. They don't mess around when it comes to bike racing. Lots of support for their athletes. Not unlike Scandinavian countries and Nordic skiing, I guess.
wth?! there is zero coverage of Marianna Vos, and zero explanation of her having yellow jersey to finishing 10 minutes back, AND losing the race in total... what happened?
Wow, what a disparity in abilities in that peloton. That was indeed a mountain time trial. How come there is such a difference between one rider, then another rider, then a few and then the rest? Can we expect the same tomorrow? Epic win to get the Mailloy Jaune. Well done
Because that's the way it is with most sport, why did Hamilton is 8 time WC with over 100 win when most other driver couldn't get 1 podium in their career? Why did Sydney Mclaughlin is over 1 second over everyone else in 400M hurdles when most other is within few hundredth? Why did New England Patriots win so many SuperBowl compare to all other? Why did Usain Bolt dominate 100M for decades? What a disparity in sport in general!!
There are several continental teams in there with much less experience. Also, most women aren't paid, or paid enough to train full-time outside of a FT or seasonal job, while some earn enough from sponsors to train FT.
@@mracer8 erm .. comparing Hamilton to the rest of F1 is nothing like this. There simply isn't the depth of talent in the women's peloton (as yet) a lot of these riders are basically amateurs. There are a handful of strong riders and then that's it. The whole point of the TDF is to let young girls see the racing and want to be doing it. it will be 10 years before it's anywhere near as competitive as the men. But this is a start
There are definitely not as many consistently great all-around riders in the peloton as others have said, due to the disparity in sponsorship opportunities that allow for more training and financial support to the men compared to the women. However this was also a different stage compared to the last stages, requiring different types of abilities. Also a smaller team of support riders compared to the men, and the women only have 8 stages to build points and wins while the men have nearly three times that. Lots of room to grow and achieve for these amazing women, can't wait for next year!
In this Tour de France Femmes 2022 there are 32 (8 stages times 4 jerseys) different jerseys. Only 2 of these 32 jerseys were NOT given to Dutch riders. TDFF is an all-Dutch show...
Right? The two top climbers hail from the flattest country in Europe, and if you scan the team rosters, you'll find a disproportionately large number of Dutch riders. An all-Dutch show indeed.
@@hollandmeester347 And AG Insurance-NXTG, Liv Racing Xstra, Team DSM, Parkhotel Valkenburg and SD Worx are Dutch as well. That identifies where the money originally comes from but it doesn't really matter for national representation (unless you look at the total number of teams from The Netherlands...wow). Pro cycling is definitely not the Olympics. The team rosters are truly international.
AvV is in a class by herself. I do not think she could be neutralized with even the tactics and a strong team like JV in the men's race. Her climbing ability is that much better. I, however, am not sure why the team tactics are not more sophisticated in the women's race. Everyone was predicting AvV to gap the field when it came to the mountains. It did not look like there was even a team attempt to challenge that. I may just no be seeing it though.
I think it's due in general to the lower competitiveness compared to the men's race, the men's tour de france attracts a lot of sponsors and money and is treated in a maniacal way by all the teams and in general the possibilities that are offered to the various athletes are better (like the quality of the athletes themselves, on the other hand). To this we must add that for men, going faster uphill, the importance of slipstream is greater and it's more difficult to escape alone against a well organized team.
So tomorrow is the last day? This race is nowhere near long enough if it can be entirely decided in one stage. What was the point of all the previous stages?
SDW not nearly as strong as I thought that team would be. No help for Vollering today, Kopecky with back-to-back weak sprint finishes. The team did win one stage, but overall expected more from that group.
About 15 years ago there was a rider who also pulled a stunt like this. His famous words the day before: "you better drink some coke because I am leaving on the first climb". We all know how that turned out....
Anne Van Vleuten just was a little too good today. Im sure alot of eyebrows has been raised. A performance like that and at the age of 39 ...crazy, unreal, unnatural.
@@bikeamour some of the other riders in the peleton refer to her as an alien. Her performances drastically changed around 2016 and she was 33 at the time. Cyclists normally start to decline at 31.
Facts 8 isn’t enough when the men had like 20 plus the women should at least get 16 to 15 I feel the days don’t even start getting tough until like day 10 with them only doing 70-90 miles each time. I think these ladies can definitely do 100 miles plus for sure
I dont know much about women racing but could it be that the space is currently still not "professional" enough? I mean in the sense of that it appears there is no real team afford to stop ppl like van Vleuten once they break out. It seems to me, that women racing is way more about some outstanding personalities who basically are alrounders and dominate the rest of the field. 10-15women who are just better in basically everything than the rest.
I think it maybe comes down to smaller budgets and smaller teams. Teams can’t afford to have specialists like dedicated sprinters/climbers etc so they focus on really strong all-rounders. Maybe? I dunno?
We have to admit that the interest for the sport by young girls as the perspective to be part of a decent pro team has only started in the last decade. Look at the videos of bike and equipment sponsors of DCRainmaker and you will see that this year saw a major improvement in terms of sponsorships. This Tour de France for women is most certainly a major reason for it. Has time goes by and TV exposure increase, the number if young girls competing will grow and the selection pools of young women will increase and will deepen. The women hockey has gone through the same stages and is now impressive. Based on that, in the next 10 to 15 years we will see a massive improvement of the overall performance if the money keeps coming.
I was betting on Annamiek van Vleuten winning the TDF Femmes avec Zwift and just yesterday, was feeling disappointed that she wasn't making a mark. What a change a day in the mountains can make! It is kind of strange, however, that the video makes no mention of Marianne Vos.
Do you know who Annemiek van Vleuten is? Do you really know, O Ye of little faith. She and Fabian Cancellara are my favor racers.
@@commonsensethecynosure1639 Are you me? Because Fabian Cancellara is my most favorite cyclist of all time. And I always knew Annamiek was special. I shouldn't have doubted her. Hopefully, Movistar do a good job of protecting her lead now.
She was no where. Why mention her. Lol
@Franklin Swimmbladder3 People watch it and they enjoy it, so yes. And if that irritates people like you, so much the better.
@Franklin Swimmbladder3 Of course it was. Judge women cycling accordingly and if you do, then they give one hell of a spectacle.
Just as exciting as the men's.
Stay safe ladies.😊👏👏👏
Ahahahahah
@@christopherludlam1602and?
@@christopherludlam1602 just appreciating their efforts, do you?
If you don't, then do not watch.
Simple as that.
How the hell can they not even mention what happened to Vos? No shots of her. No mention at all. Two stages in yellow and now not even in Top 10!
5 stages in yellow. Vos is not a climber. Nobody expected her to compete today.
For those of us not familiar with the female riders it would have been nice to hear that information from the coverage. I wondered the same thing. Could the Yellow Jersey’s team not pull her through? I guess they didn’t even try.
@@jeffmaccheyne4952 there's no way a team can pull a rider like Vos, who's not a pure climber, through 3 Category 1 climbs. If this was possible, Peter Sagan would have won multiple Tour de France races.
Look at 2:50 you see Vos on the right corner of your screen
It’s like asking why Wout van Aert is out of the GC after the first mountain stage.
Go Shirin! 20 years old and already so good!
WHAT AN AMAZING STAGe. Its shows the different skills of all the women participating in this amazing TOUR DU FRANCE!!!!
Yep...a "Climbing Masterclass" like only AvV can give!!!
6 riders finishing OOT is worth a mention, as well as Lorena Wiebes not finishing
Meaning the cut-off time limit is 36 minutes?
Where is Vos now???
Thanks for posting.
What happened to Vos?
@@savagepro9060 no shit.
Was asking what actually happened, have they chase, when she gave up, etc. The commentary totally omitts the race leader !!
@@savagepro9060 you should be a professional commentator!
@@wujekg vos is not a climber, she wasn’t going for the yellow jersey at the end, but for the sprint races which she did brilliantly and with that came the yellow jersey.
Dropped on the first climb. Finished 24+ mins back.
@@wujekg Yes, it is a shame. Maillot Jaune is not just something, normally it is part of honor to defend it till the end or at least try to and also look at it even if change is clear. Anyway, it is difficult to stop van Vleuten when she is willing to win, but the rest should consider their tactics. It is one thing that she often wins and the other how she wins. However, it starts to become a serious tour now dominated by the competition more than crashes and strange events. It could become a great final now. Hopefully, there are some ideas how to at least anoy the leader a bit.
Gee, no mention of Vos or Persico. Kasia goes from third to third...
is there any information the jumbo-visma women team using ketones, too?
Looks like all the jerseys go to the Dutch!
It's the same for Paracycling (for people with disabilities). The Dutch clean up. They don't mess around when it comes to bike racing. Lots of support for their athletes. Not unlike Scandinavian countries and Nordic skiing, I guess.
wth?! there is zero coverage of Marianna Vos, and zero explanation of her having yellow jersey to finishing 10 minutes back, AND losing the race in total... what happened?
AVV is a true champion.
Van Vleuten does not 'kleuten'......
Amazing good......
Great video, very beautiful. I'm a big fan of you＋👍🔔
No one has the attack of Van Vleuten from the group?
More professionalism will lead to closer racing in the future.This is great for women’s cycling long may it continue.
It doesn't mention ANYTHING about Marianne Vos. what happened to her?
Wow, what a disparity in abilities in that peloton. That was indeed a mountain time trial. How come there is such a difference between one rider, then another rider, then a few and then the rest? Can we expect the same tomorrow?
Epic win to get the Mailloy Jaune. Well done
Because that's the way it is with most sport, why did Hamilton is 8 time WC with over 100 win when most other driver couldn't get 1 podium in their career? Why did Sydney Mclaughlin is over 1 second over everyone else in 400M hurdles when most other is within few hundredth? Why did New England Patriots win so many SuperBowl compare to all other? Why did Usain Bolt dominate 100M for decades? What a disparity in sport in general!!
There are several continental teams in there with much less experience. Also, most women aren't paid, or paid enough to train full-time outside of a FT or seasonal job, while some earn enough from sponsors to train FT.
@@mracer8 erm .. comparing Hamilton to the rest of F1 is nothing like this. There simply isn't the depth of talent in the women's peloton (as yet) a lot of these riders are basically amateurs. There are a handful of strong riders and then that's it. The whole point of the TDF is to let young girls see the racing and want to be doing it. it will be 10 years before it's anywhere near as competitive as the men. But this is a start
@@russellis6993 I guess in Merckx time there were no strong riders and no depth of talent too right...
There are definitely not as many consistently great all-around riders in the peloton as others have said, due to the disparity in sponsorship opportunities that allow for more training and financial support to the men compared to the women. However this was also a different stage compared to the last stages, requiring different types of abilities. Also a smaller team of support riders compared to the men, and the women only have 8 stages to build points and wins while the men have nearly three times that. Lots of room to grow and achieve for these amazing women, can't wait for next year!
Fuarrkkkkk AVV!
This was expected
What happened to Vos
25 minutes down. She's not a climber.
2016 Olympic crash still horrible to remember. I hope van vleuten win this tour.
The Vos Cracked 😌
In this Tour de France Femmes 2022 there are 32 (8 stages times 4 jerseys) different jerseys.
Only 2 of these 32 jerseys were NOT given to Dutch riders.
TDFF is an all-Dutch show...
Right? The two top climbers hail from the flattest country in Europe, and if you scan the team rosters, you'll find a disproportionately large number of Dutch riders. An all-Dutch show indeed.
@@dlbutler Don't forget Jumbo Visma is Dutch too.
@@hollandmeester347 And AG Insurance-NXTG, Liv Racing Xstra, Team DSM, Parkhotel Valkenburg and SD Worx are Dutch as well. That identifies where the money originally comes from but it doesn't really matter for national representation (unless you look at the total number of teams from The Netherlands...wow). Pro cycling is definitely not the Olympics. The team rosters are truly international.
Who's surprised? The Netherlands is the Mecca of cycling.
@@alexseguin5245 Even Wout van Aert has a Dutch (grand)father...
highlights?
Serious question: How is it possible that the peloton is that weak to lose such crazy amounts of time to one rider? Is there no depth in the field?
maybe she is just that good and her team is that strong! it could be much wider gap if she wasn't so sick during first 3-4 days of the tour!
The same thing happened in the men’s TDF this year. The peloton got destroyed in every high mountain stage.
AvV is in a class by herself. I do not think she could be neutralized with even the tactics and a strong team like JV in the men's race. Her climbing ability is that much better. I, however, am not sure why the team tactics are not more sophisticated in the women's race. Everyone was predicting AvV to gap the field when it came to the mountains. It did not look like there was even a team attempt to challenge that. I may just no be seeing it though.
I'm sure if there were other riders to compete, they would be there
I think it's due in general to the lower competitiveness compared to the men's race, the men's tour de france attracts a lot of sponsors and money and is treated in a maniacal way by all the teams and in general the possibilities that are offered to the various athletes are better (like the quality of the athletes themselves, on the other hand). To this we must add that for men, going faster uphill, the importance of slipstream is greater and it's more difficult to escape alone against a well organized team.
Silvia Persico relegated for dangerous sprint on Stage 6.
Lol they edit the size of the yellow jersey
Do you know who Annemiek van Vleuten is? Do you really know, O Ye of little faith. She and Fabian Cancellara are my favor racers.
So tomorrow is the last day? This race is nowhere near long enough if it can be entirely decided in one stage. What was the point of all the previous stages?
SDW not nearly as strong as I thought that team would be. No help for Vollering today, Kopecky with back-to-back weak sprint finishes. The team did win one stage, but overall expected more from that group.
They won 1 stage, are second in GC (and will likely stay so) and have the polka dot jersey...
About 15 years ago there was a rider who also pulled a stunt like this. His famous words the day before: "you better drink some coke because I am leaving on the first climb".
We all know how that turned out....
127 km = 79 miles
Anne Van Vleuten just was a little too good today. Im sure alot of eyebrows has been raised. A performance like that and at the age of 39 ...crazy, unreal, unnatural.
Why unnatural?
@@bikeamour some of the other riders in the peleton refer to her as an alien. Her performances drastically changed around 2016 and she was 33 at the time. Cyclists normally start to decline at 31.
I truly believe AVV can outclimb male sprinters
Lol
M. Vos must have crashed or just had a bad day. Didn't even see her finish.
She was 24+ mins back.
@@scottbaker5851 I wished they had mentioned that. Love Vos and AvV!
She is not a serious climber like the GC contenders
Alpe d'huez and all the famous climbs of the alps next year for the femmes, why shouldn't they experience the crowds like the men.
🤓👍
This summary is way too short guys! Please fix that for tomorrow (and the bright future), some of us have to work you know...
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Vos is gone wtf 😒
If 1 stage can completely shake up 6 stages on hard work in the GC then we need more stages.
Facts 8 isn’t enough when the men had like 20 plus the women should at least get 16 to 15 I feel the days don’t even start getting tough until like day 10 with them only doing 70-90 miles each time. I think these ladies can definitely do 100 miles plus for sure
The men's race had a similar stage. 🤷♂️
@@Outsideville The men's race had also many different stages.
@@MrJhockley and yet a single stage, 11, completely shook up the results. More stages do not necessarily change this.
@@Outsideville but increase the chances. Conversely we should have less stages and put more down to luck.
Doper was barely hanging on a few days ago.
okay Landis
@@JonathanvG-wj1ro There should be weight classes in cycling like MMA. This is utter bullshit😄
@@floydwilliams8595 Their bicycles should also be a certain percentage of a rider's weight, not unfairly fixed at 6.8 kg.
TÁ COM NADA. A CHEGADA É ÍNGREME ONDE SE VIU ISSO, TÁ POR FORA TCHAU. NÃO ASSISTO MAIS.
AvV wins are just so boring. 70k solo wtf.
what a beast, too bad some trans will soon ruin this tour and competition
Why is a dude doing the commentary?
I dont know much about women racing but could it be that the space is currently still not "professional" enough? I mean in the sense of that it appears there is no real team afford to stop ppl like van Vleuten once they break out.
It seems to me, that women racing is way more about some outstanding personalities who basically are alrounders and dominate the rest of the field. 10-15women who are just better in basically everything than the rest.
I think it maybe comes down to smaller budgets and smaller teams. Teams can’t afford to have specialists like dedicated sprinters/climbers etc so they focus on really strong all-rounders. Maybe? I dunno?
We have to admit that the interest for the sport by young girls as the perspective to be part of a decent pro team has only started in the last decade.
Look at the videos of bike and equipment sponsors of DCRainmaker and you will see that this year saw a major improvement in terms of sponsorships.
This Tour de France for women is most certainly a major reason for it.
Has time goes by and TV exposure increase, the number if young girls competing will grow and the selection pools of young women will increase and will deepen.
The women hockey has gone through the same stages and is now impressive.
Based on that, in the next 10 to 15 years we will see a massive improvement of the overall performance if the money keeps coming.
Green jersey..?..... What a shite show......GCN GET A GRIP.
Green Jersey is still Vos and she only has to finish tomorrow to take it home.
Green jersey has been decided the moment Lorena Wiebes dropped out.
What a doofus! No explanation of Vos' disappearance. Not even a mention. Journalism is a lost art in the youtube age.