This has been such superb racing from all these ladies - I hope the race organisers continue to make this race keep improving on the same trajectory as the last 2 years and it will be better than the men's race in no time at all! It's already better to watch as it is just so competitive!
Enjoyed the coverage. Are there any plans to make the TDFF longer than 8 stages? With the men doing 21 stages, it seems like the women should be doing at least 14.
ASO were being far too slow to restart the women's TDF, but they can't expand the race to quickly - if the majority of the calendar is one day races and 3 and 4 day stage races with the grand tours a bit longer. If the TDF was 2 or 3 weeks it would make it really difficult to train for - would the teams target a once a year longer race or for the majority of the season? I hope the race grows organically, with a few extra stages added so that's avoided. Lets hope this happens though and the race gets longer - the racing is great to watch.
The producers of the femmes tour are terrible. They just cut away at all the wrong times constantly. Lets not see the riders cross the line. No lets see someone in slow motion for a minute instead. Or yesterday lets not see riders try and get away from the pack. No lets see air shots of the mountain. I'm sorry but hopefully next year it will be better produced.
I was considering that SD Worx might be so dominant that the Tour would be boring; but it was wonderful and exciting. Highlights coverage and commentary was excellent and hopefully will continue to become even better in the future. Thank you.
How could the "experts" not go all for Marlen Reusser as the winner of stage 8? Yes, she did it again: Well done, Marlen Reusser! Impressive 1-3 by Team SD Worx in the TT! Congrats Demi Vollering for winning the Tour and Lotte Kopecky winning the points classification! It was a little sad to see Kasia Niewiadoma losing place 2 overall. But winning the climb classification was nice! Congrats also to Cédrine Kerbaol for winning at the young riders!
Great race, and what a shame seeing AVV blowing up towards the end of the race. Hardly surprising when she was smashing the giro whilst everyone else was preping for this race. She will be missed for sure. PS: Is it just me or is AVV riding in a strange position? Hips rocking, toes pointing, shifting in the saddle constantly... I wonder how much more could she push if the position was dialed in, which is rather scary. Still, she doesn't seem the type who would take expert advice on this...
It's true, her position is very strange. A bit block-ish, slow cadence, wide arms. But still she's always ridden like that and there's probably not much benefit to be gained by changing it so late into her career.
@@Tibovl Yes, she has clearly been having the results, even though it doesn't look very efficient. I'm amazed she doesn't get saddle sores either with that much much hip rocking. I imagine there would be benefits to improving her position, but it would certainly feel strange in the short term. I guess when results are there there is no incentive to change.
@@nluisa Since she is retiring after this year and she is one of the top female racer of all time in term of GT win and win in general, I guess her style of riding work well for her! why fix/change something that is working so well for her?
There's an Australian guy that does videos on fitting and such, and recall seeing one in which he specifically discussed AVV's saddle being too high, which resulted in the awkward look on the bike. Can't imagine she even considered making a change, once she established herself as a star in the sport.
Lotte Kopecky placed second in a grand tour! Let me write this again. Lotte Kopecky. I am talking about Lotte Kopecky. Lotte Kopecky came in second place in a grand tour. Two riders from SD Worx stood on the two highest step. Say what you will. Say what you may. That is an indictment on women cycling. Lotte Kopecky, what the deuce!
Her climbing have improve a lot, otherwise they wouldn't have let her go on stage 1 and led by a minute! I doubt they will let her go on stage race again so easily!
@@mracer8 Becoming a better climber that is an Armstong explanation, anyway. Are there any excellent climbers in the women's peloton with the exception of Annemiek? What I mean is a climber such as Pantani who could destroy the GC contenders in the mountains. Back to the topic, Kopecky coming in second in the women's tour is no different than Cancellara coming in second in the men's tour. Both are unthinkable.
The passing of the torch is official. All hail queen Demi. What an illustrious career Annemiek Van Vleuten has had. Legendary. 103 victories. And all epic. The greatest of all time.... And Kopecky is definitely switching teams.
She should if she have any GT ambition! MovieStar might be looking for somebody with AVV retiring next year! I wonder if SDW budget is really so much bigger then other team?
I'm sad tgat Annamiek is retiring from pro road she's such a good personality and competitor. Will be hard to not ride her bike i think as she likes cycling so much.
Yes! I was praying for another Dutch 1-2 punch on the Tour de France as in 2022. I was hoping Annemiek van Vleuten would be on the podium but Demi Vollering really earned this. Thank You GCN Racing for covering this!
Unfortunately, it’s the money at the end of the day. I don’t believe that the camera man or woman is doing such a thing on purpose, it’s the quality of the staff and camera operators that are fitted within the budget.
but that only happen like once in every 200 years, all other time the winner was ahead by minutes and you need a motorbike to catch up after the mountain stage!
Until the women's tour is ridden on major roads and not back lanes, it will remain a 3rd class event. In the 3 weeks of the men's tour, I never saw as many team cars and motorcycles having to push through the peloton as there were on the 7 days of this event. This made the race far more dangerous than the men's race.
More dangerous? I do t think it's more dangerous probably more technical. You don't see the fast descending in the women's race as the men's and that's more dangerous imo.
@@glennoc8585 If the women's course used a faster descent, they would race down it. To claim otherwise is beyond contempt, especially as we all know MTB downhill courses are the same for both men and women.
@@PdronQ Cause she got 2nd on overall standings while working for her teammate in the mountains (+ held the jersey for the entire race against all odds)
@@spartianj but because Volering was around people didnt race her like they would have. If van Vleuten didnt have Volering in here wheel she would have beaten Kopecki. Both riders are impressive, but to me winning gc is still more impressive.
@@spartianj 1. Kopecki is a top rider and could see improvement in the future in GT. 2. Kopecki got away in stage 1 and stay away because nobody think she is a GT contender! in the future they won't let her took off so easily. 3. She didn't really work for her teamate in the mountrain beside mental support! she is basically sucking wheel at the back of the front group in the mountain! she would also lost minutes more if Demi and AVV not to decide who can do a better track stand down the mountain while 1 minute up the road with a huge mountain ahead! 4. Vollering would have blow Kopecki away if they were racing for a different team this year, future? nobody know! Vollering improve a lot this year, I suppose Kopecki could also!
Is not the length, is the quality of the race that matter! I rather have 8 exciting and demanding stages then 15 stage of rolling peloton and field sprint at the end
@@mracer8 1- The women can't race 15 stages (yet) 2- Mens tdf was over 3000 k's, womens under 1000 3- Mens had 8 mountain stages, womens had 1 4- there was little field sprinting because the women couldn't get their sh*t together to catch a breakaway 5-Don't get me wrong I enjoy quality cycling events, men or women but like tennis, women play 3 sets & men 5 in the majors for a reason. If the women played 5 sets the quality would be awful. 6- I thiink organizers would have a hard time extending the race beyond 8 stages (Sat to Following Sunday) which didn't go an entire extra week & like you said, the quality would drop significatly.
@@stevemahoney1733 I am fine with man tdf shorten to 10 stage. Most of the stage is boring as hell and certainly don’t need more then 2 to 3 really long hard mountain stage.
@@mracer8 I see. So tell me, where will the money come from to support the TdF once it's been shortened to 10 days ? You know you're signing its death warrant right? Thats pretty much what the female tennis players said as well. Men don't need to play 5 sets, we want the same money though.
@@stevemahoney1733 these women can race 15 stages. Not sure what leads you believe they can't. I was glad to see the breakaways be successful on the flat stages but I think at least three climbing stages is in order
I’m enjoying the bike so far ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
Race Crews Please Take Note: Stand back a bit to help racers get all the O2 they can. Your CO2 will delay their recovery and possibly cause a collapse. Annemiek had some serious JVD. Not Good Please save the celebration for later. Maybe have a small tank of O2 on hand to help with recovery with a non-rebreather mask. Thanks!
Seems like she always looks like that on the podium. Maybe she doesn't really like being in front of big crowds. In interviews though she has a nice personality and does smile.
With the blatant drafting when approaching the rider in front and then the rider drafting after being passed, I'm surprised the passed rider doesn't hang on for very long with the large reduction in aerodynamic drag. Oh, drafting in a TT is okay, drafting for a long time in a TT is not okay. Right...
Kopecky was in the slipstream of Moolman-Pasio only for the few seconds prior to overtaking her, what she immediatly did when she was close enough. This was a completely normal situation and absolutely legal afaik. It would have been a completely different situation if Kopecky would have taken a big effort to chase down Moolman-Pasio and then slow down to take a rest on Moolmans wheel and let her drag to the finish. Also, it is a completely different story if a rider is overtaken by an opponent and then stays on its wheel. This is because in doing so, you are profiting from a faster rider.
@@nikolausschallhart8654 I wouldn't want to draft a rider who was already 2 min slower then me for long anyway, I would want to pass that rider and keep on trucking!
Well, Demi is strongest all year! AVV already win so many GT the past 2 yrs, there is no reason to think she can win it all or not have a bad tour/days!
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Loved watching these highlights both the women and mens tours. Thanks guys.
Congrats!!! What a display yesterday in the mountains, and a great TT finishing 2nd!! Great overall TdF race.
Congratulations Demi! 🥇 What a fantastic career Annemiek!
This has been such superb racing from all these ladies - I hope the race organisers continue to make this race keep improving on the same trajectory as the last 2 years and it will be better than the men's race in no time at all! It's already better to watch as it is just so competitive!
Enjoyed the coverage. Are there any plans to make the TDFF longer than 8 stages? With the men doing 21 stages, it seems like the women should be doing at least 14.
Bingo! 14 stages would be nice.
i agree, sadly it is not possible. for 2 reasons.
21 stages
Hopefully in time this will come. Right now, I suspect there is not enough audience and therefore advertising money to justify this.
ASO were being far too slow to restart the women's TDF, but they can't expand the race to quickly - if the majority of the calendar is one day races and 3 and 4 day stage races with the grand tours a bit longer. If the TDF was 2 or 3 weeks it would make it really difficult to train for - would the teams target a once a year longer race or for the majority of the season? I hope the race grows organically, with a few extra stages added so that's avoided.
Lets hope this happens though and the race gets longer - the racing is great to watch.
The producers of the femmes tour are terrible. They just cut away at all the wrong times constantly. Lets not see the riders cross the line. No lets see someone in slow motion for a minute instead. Or yesterday lets not see riders try and get away from the pack. No lets see air shots of the mountain. I'm sorry but hopefully next year it will be better produced.
I thought it was pretty good coverage in my country. Possibly a different coverage visually in different places?
Nieviadome Reusser Kopecky and de vollering anr amazing, all champions
Great event coverage GCN!
Some great talent racing! Love it!👍🏼👍🏼
I was considering that SD Worx might be so dominant that the Tour would be boring; but it was wonderful and exciting. Highlights coverage and commentary was excellent and hopefully will continue to become even better in the future. Thank you.
12 stages would be PERF😗🤠
Yara Kastelijn won the combativity award.
How could the "experts" not go all for Marlen Reusser as the winner of stage 8?
Yes, she did it again: Well done, Marlen Reusser!
Impressive 1-3 by Team SD Worx in the TT! Congrats Demi Vollering for winning the Tour and Lotte Kopecky winning the points classification!
It was a little sad to see Kasia Niewiadoma losing place 2 overall. But winning the climb classification was nice! Congrats also to Cédrine Kerbaol for winning at the young riders!
This TDFF needs to be longer, 8 days is not enough😢
Well France finally has a Tour de France champion ! The first since Hinault in 1985!
Who would that be? Demi is Dutch.
@@scottbaker5851 . Yes she is ! My Bad ! Don't know what I was thinking.
The white jersey is French
Well, then you are still wrong. In the 2000's Ja Ja won the KOM a couple of times.
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It's cool.
Great race, and what a shame seeing AVV blowing up towards the end of the race. Hardly surprising when she was smashing the giro whilst everyone else was preping for this race. She will be missed for sure.
PS: Is it just me or is AVV riding in a strange position? Hips rocking, toes pointing, shifting in the saddle constantly... I wonder how much more could she push if the position was dialed in, which is rather scary. Still, she doesn't seem the type who would take expert advice on this...
It's true, her position is very strange. A bit block-ish, slow cadence, wide arms. But still she's always ridden like that and there's probably not much benefit to be gained by changing it so late into her career.
@@Tibovl Yes, she has clearly been having the results, even though it doesn't look very efficient. I'm amazed she doesn't get saddle sores either with that much much hip rocking.
I imagine there would be benefits to improving her position, but it would certainly feel strange in the short term. I guess when results are there there is no incentive to change.
@@nluisa Since she is retiring after this year and she is one of the top female racer of all time in term of GT win and win in general, I guess her style of riding work well for her! why fix/change something that is working so well for her?
There's an Australian guy that does videos on fitting and such, and recall seeing one in which he specifically discussed AVV's saddle being too high, which resulted in the awkward look on the bike. Can't imagine she even considered making a change, once she established herself as a star in the sport.
Lotte Kopecky placed second in a grand tour! Let me write this again. Lotte Kopecky. I am talking about Lotte Kopecky. Lotte Kopecky came in second place in a grand tour. Two riders from SD Worx stood on the two highest step. Say what you will. Say what you may. That is an indictment on women cycling. Lotte Kopecky, what the deuce!
Her climbing have improve a lot, otherwise they wouldn't have let her go on stage 1 and led by a minute! I doubt they will let her go on stage race again so easily!
@@mracer8 Becoming a better climber that is an Armstong explanation, anyway. Are there any excellent climbers in the women's peloton with the exception of Annemiek? What I mean is a climber such as Pantani who could destroy the GC contenders in the mountains. Back to the topic, Kopecky coming in second in the women's tour is no different than Cancellara coming in second in the men's tour. Both are unthinkable.
The passing of the torch is official. All hail queen Demi.
What an illustrious career Annemiek Van Vleuten has had. Legendary. 103 victories. And all epic. The greatest of all time....
And Kopecky is definitely switching teams.
She should if she have any GT ambition! MovieStar might be looking for somebody with AVV retiring next year! I wonder if SDW budget is really so much bigger then other team?
@@mracer8 I'd say Movistar will see Lianne Lippert as a potential GC contender.
@@JaemanEdwards yes. But next year might be too soon
@@mracer8 Lippert will have Annemiek to mentor her. Nows her time to step up.
Would be interesting to know what's going on with that chain on the TT bike at the start.
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Encore!! Maybe a 2-week Tour next year...?
29 miles per hour? Damn what a TT.
Women's tour should go first. More prize $, Phil and Bob.
I'm sad tgat Annamiek is retiring from pro road she's such a good personality and competitor. Will be hard to not ride her bike i think as she likes cycling so much.
THAT WAS AMAZING FINISH BUT l thinK it should be at least 14 stages and few laps of Champs Elyeess to finish would make it a PROPER ENDING !!
Kasia Niewiadoma ❤🚴🏻♀️
Yes! I was praying for another Dutch 1-2 punch on the Tour de France as in 2022.
I was hoping Annemiek van Vleuten would be on the podium but Demi Vollering really earned this.
Thank You GCN Racing for covering this!
Something looks wrong with the derailleur in the very first shot. Alternatively the chain is too long but I think it is the former.
Unfortunately, it’s the money at the end of the day. I don’t believe that the camera man or woman is doing such a thing on purpose, it’s the quality of the staff and camera operators that are fitted within the budget.
The men's race concluding with an Individual TT produced the greatest Tour finish ever.
but that only happen like once in every 200 years, all other time the winner was ahead by minutes and you need a motorbike to catch up after the mountain stage!
Until the women's tour is ridden on major roads and not back lanes, it will remain a 3rd class event. In the 3 weeks of the men's tour, I never saw as many team cars and motorcycles having to push through the peloton as there were on the 7 days of this event. This made the race far more dangerous than the men's race.
More dangerous? I do t think it's more dangerous probably more technical. You don't see the fast descending in the women's race as the men's and that's more dangerous imo.
@@glennoc8585 If the women's course used a faster descent, they would race down it. To claim otherwise is beyond contempt, especially as we all know MTB downhill courses are the same for both men and women.
That was a wonderful race. Hopefully the poor management of Kopecky made it possible to have variety of winners
With Kopecky showing she have improve her climbing, I doubt they will let her go free in the future!
No explanation of 2nd and 3rd at same time? Get it together, GCN...
For me Kopecki more impressive than Vollering
Why?
@@PdronQ Cause she got 2nd on overall standings while working for her teammate in the mountains (+ held the jersey for the entire race against all odds)
@@spartianj but because Volering was around people didnt race her like they would have. If van Vleuten didnt have Volering in here wheel she would have beaten Kopecki.
Both riders are impressive, but to me winning gc is still more impressive.
3+ mins ahead is not impressive for you?
@@spartianj 1. Kopecki is a top rider and could see improvement in the future in GT. 2. Kopecki got away in stage 1 and stay away because nobody think she is a GT contender! in the future they won't let her took off so easily. 3. She didn't really work for her teamate in the mountrain beside mental support! she is basically sucking wheel at the back of the front group in the mountain! she would also lost minutes more if Demi and AVV not to decide who can do a better track stand down the mountain while 1 minute up the road with a huge mountain ahead! 4. Vollering would have blow Kopecki away if they were racing for a different team this year, future? nobody know! Vollering improve a lot this year, I suppose Kopecki could also!
Chapeau ladies. But for fuck sake can we get more than 8 stages next year?
Is not the length, is the quality of the race that matter! I rather have 8 exciting and demanding stages then 15 stage of rolling peloton and field sprint at the end
@@mracer8
1- The women can't race 15 stages (yet)
2- Mens tdf was over 3000 k's, womens under 1000
3- Mens had 8 mountain stages, womens had 1
4- there was little field sprinting because the women couldn't get their sh*t together to catch a breakaway
5-Don't get me wrong I enjoy quality cycling events, men or women but like tennis, women play 3 sets & men 5 in the majors for a reason. If the women played 5 sets the quality would be awful.
6- I thiink organizers would have a hard time extending the race beyond 8 stages (Sat to Following Sunday) which didn't go an entire extra week & like you said, the quality would drop significatly.
@@stevemahoney1733 I am fine with man tdf shorten to 10 stage. Most of the stage is boring as hell and certainly don’t need more then 2 to 3 really long hard mountain stage.
@@mracer8 I see. So tell me, where will the money come from to support the TdF once it's been shortened to 10 days ?
You know you're signing its death warrant right?
Thats pretty much what the female tennis players said as well. Men don't need to play 5 sets, we want the same money though.
@@stevemahoney1733 these women can race 15 stages. Not sure what leads you believe they can't. I was glad to see the breakaways be successful on the flat stages but I think at least three climbing stages is in order
I’m enjoying the bike so far ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
What happened to following the UCI TT helmet demension rules? 😂
i watched this entire video but still unsure. who won?
Marlen Reusser won the stage, Demi Vollering won the race
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Gripping watching folks…
Race Crews Please Take Note:
Stand back a bit to help racers get all the O2 they can.
Your CO2 will delay their recovery and possibly cause a collapse.
Annemiek had some serious JVD. Not Good Please save the celebration for later.
Maybe have a small tank of O2 on hand to help with recovery with a non-rebreather mask.
Thanks!
Did the polka dot jersey cost Katarzyna Niewiadoma?
Well Kopecky was wearing the green jersey so it shouldn't have been a factor
@@amosstarkey485 good point
The draft Kopecky got when passing Moolman might have done it though.
Kopecky doesn't look terribly pleased with her second place.
Yet she is, as she told in the post-race interview
She wanted what that other b**ch has.
Seems like she always looks like that on the podium. Maybe she doesn't really like being in front of big crowds. In interviews though she has a nice personality and does smile.
I reckon I’m not with it… first time tuning in to the women’s TDF. 8 stages? Surely the short race must be about $ and interest?
yes, women stage race usually is around 6-9 stages! there is only so many small town that can support bike racing!
I wasn't aware people could draft in the TT...
Kopecky should have been docked some time for that, right?
No
Nope, that happens literally every TT and is almost never deciding.
With the blatant drafting when approaching the rider in front and then the rider drafting after being passed, I'm surprised the passed rider doesn't hang on for very long with the large reduction in aerodynamic drag. Oh, drafting in a TT is okay, drafting for a long time in a TT is not okay. Right...
Huh?
Kopecky was in the slipstream of Moolman-Pasio only for the few seconds prior to overtaking her, what she immediatly did when she was close enough. This was a completely normal situation and absolutely legal afaik. It would have been a completely different situation if Kopecky would have taken a big effort to chase down Moolman-Pasio and then slow down to take a rest on Moolmans wheel and let her drag to the finish.
Also, it is a completely different story if a rider is overtaken by an opponent and then stays on its wheel. This is because in doing so, you are profiting from a faster rider.
@@nikolausschallhart8654 I wouldn't want to draft a rider who was already 2 min slower then me for long anyway, I would want to pass that rider and keep on trucking!
Great Demi. Very disappointing Annemiek van Vleuten.
Well, Demi is strongest all year! AVV already win so many GT the past 2 yrs, there is no reason to think she can win it all or not have a bad tour/days!