Demi Vollering DESTROYS Van Vleuten on Tourmalet | Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift 2023 Stage 7
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2023
- Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift 2023 Stage 7
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Vollering is no longer demi. She is now complete
She is now Vol Vollering. Vol = Full in dutch.
💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉
@@sudsehuncry harder 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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very impressed by kopecky today. She kept up way longer then i thought.
She is the female WvA ;)
Longer than anyone thought I guess
@@MarvinWestmaas Totally. Did you catch that she was doing that bird flap WvA motion at the start line while she was joking with someone? I wonder what she was saying.
Lotte has improved on many levels this tour. And her coming along not too far behind (third place and maybe second even, still possible) the rest... very impressive. If she can hold on to this level... Glasgow, here she comes!
@@theobolt250The anthem you'll hear after Glasgow will be Dutch, the only question is how likely is it Demi will do the same to those 2km 10% Glasgow street climbs as she did in the Ardenes earlier this year, or that she might turn out to be human and proofing she can't win everything in one year ( ... vuelta was stolen, I love AvV but it was a bit of a dirty move.. which is legal, I mean that's part of cycling as well ).
Love how Vollering announces her attack. Just looking AVV in the eyes basically saying "I go now and there is nothing you can do!"
My favorite part was when Kasia Niewiadoma was almost caught by the group, and she looked over her shoulder, took a drink from her bottle, then put her head down and made everyone chase her to the top. Besides Demi Vollering's dominant ride, it was a gutsy performance. Sadly, she'll most likely get knocked off of the podium in tomorrow's TT.
I'm really happy Niewiadoma is getting the QOM out this ride. So often she makes the gusty - bordering on foolhardy -attacks that never quite pan out for her. And yeah, she didn't get the stage. And yeah, Kopecky and AVV are almost certainly passing her in the TT. But even if not a win, this attack feels like a success.
@@andrewclark8129 you never know, all depend on how AVV feel after losing this year tdf to Demi, maybe she will be motivated to get second, maybe she don't care anymore! as for Kopecky, almost 2 min might be a bit too big a gap for a time trial of 22.6km or 14 miles. weather might be a factor however! there is a chance of wet course
@@mracer8 I don’t think Kopecky can win yellow, but she’s only 45 seconds behind Niewiadoma. At the Tour de Suisse this year, KN dropped about 2 minutes on a similar length ITT.
@@andrewclark8129 yeah. She can probably do that. But will she be able to beat AVV on a tt depend on how much motivation they both have.
@@mracer8 That's depending on the motivation, because all things being equal, Annemiek is a much better time trialist than Kopecky.
I would bet on Kopecky beating Niewiadoma and Moolman-Pasio, but never against van Vleuten.
I wish there were more mountain stages in the women's tour, I understand that there isn't funding for a full 21 stage race, but 1 or 2 more mountain stages would've made the GC race much more of a battle, or at least enjoyable to watch.
Yeah. Maybe next year
Next year will actually be shorter (7 days) due to the Olympics in Paris etc, doubt there will be too much mountain as the first two days are spent in The Netherlands
It’s unfortunate because it would be super entertaining but I’d imagine that aso worries about massive time gaps after the first mountain stage. Who knows, maybe if they had back to back mountain stages, that might make Vollering suffer from her effort today and give AVV a chance to claw back time.
I'd like to see a 10day 9 stage race wrapping two weekends.
we never know though. we won't always have a Tadej/Jonas battle. it is possible that gc favorites will just chill in the first few mountain stages to preserve their legs.
The fog/cloud was too much fun, made it really challenging for the time keepers, who had suggested Niewiadoma was suddenly coming back with super speed, until the announcers said, "Wait, I think it's wrong". Super cool stage. Mad props to Kopecky and her climb, keeping herself within contention for at least a podium finish tomorrow.
6:30 Niewiadoma being pursued by the Hound of the Baskervilles on a Tarmac SL7.
it was pretty obvious the time was inaccurate
The torch officially passed today 👏
Demi rageclimbed the tourmalet, I thought she had waited too long to catch Kasia, boy was I wrong.
Nah women climb very slowly, they can make up 1’ per km easy bc every km is 5’ long
@@pato20995 I guess you must be very fast on the mountain
@@pato20995I'm sure you could keep up with Oli Bridgewood right ?
Oh wait, no you can't.
And he got destroyed by them.
@@gamma_dablam 1) Who? 2) How would you know what I can do? 3) Did I do anything but state facts?* 4) I fail to see the relevance of my cycling ability.
*Compare the speed of the men to that of the women, it's readily available on Strava and apparently you need help understanding what I am saying.
Gutted for Niewadoma though, fantastic showing today
If wout van aert and lotte kopecky had a child, he could win the tour before his 10 birthday
We just need to know, to further the human race!
@@smeetsnoud1sadly he is married and has 2 Kids, we will never see what kind of power it would have
Yea I no your joking , but name one Olympic champion were there children have done the same???
@@rubenv5722use Remove then
Nah, too heavy for GC. Even at 9yo 😉
Not 9:30 at night, just very foggy and not that cold - chilly for summer - but a good temperature for hard climbing.24-25C at the base of the climb and 17C at the summit.
Yeah was 7 20 at night lol
Been thoroughly enjoying the female TDF. The peloton more likely not to bring back the breakaway than actually bringing the breakaway back was a bit weird. But beyond that it has been good.
Hey @LanterneRougeCycling as with lots of people I watched the TDF last year and got hooked by the Netflix show. Now I found your channel and I love it. One piece of content that I am looking is for an explainer of all tactics. There are plenty of videos talking about the lingo, but not how tactics work. This video with Vollering and van Vleuten was one of the many examples where tactics came in play. If you ever have the time for it I would appreciate in advance. Keep doing your great work!
I was very confused and impressed. Confused that van Vleuten already went on the Aspin. That was way too early. And confused that van Vleuten and Vollering let Niewiadoma go. Impressed by the attack of Vollering and that Kopecky was able to stay competitive untill the end.
Let me help you out! The plan was for MovieStar and Vleuten to attack early because that in theory the longer/harder style work for Vleuten more while Demi is stronger and have better kick!! but unfortunately she found out she don't quite have the leg today and Demi is simply too strong! As for the reason they let Niewiadoma go is because Vollering refuse to work with Vleuten to pull back Niewiadoma on the valley when she got a small gap, Vallering reason was she have 2 team mate in the chasing group and one of them is already in yellow jersey, so no reason for her to waste energy, if you want to close the gap, that's fine. The reason I think AVV want Vollering to help close the gap was yes, you have 2 team mate behind, but one of them is on yellow jersey, so unless you are good with 2nd or 3rd place at the end, that's ok with me since I already win the tours before! I think that's her thinking/saying!
Van Vleuten didn't go on the Aspin, she just wanted to make it a tough race which would be in her favourite because she has stamina.
Unfortunately Vollering was just too good that day.
And Van Vleuten clearly wasn't at her best, which she realised when she shook her head on the tourmalet
great race coverage by you again this year. thank you. I learn from each race you highlight.
What a ride by Vollering... I hoped AVV could win this race (again), being her last year, but wow
Let’s not forget AVV is 40 going on 41. Still damn good.
I passed the test. I will diminish, and go into the west, to the Grey Havens, where I will race gravel.
yup, I wish I was that good when I was 21
Don't mind the age. She just had a bad day. Maybe a bit ill.
@@peterslegers6121 Is ok, nobody can win forever or be on all the time! she have a career few can match!
your commentary is exactly what women’s cycling needs, first time m following the women’s tour because you make it easier to digest and you did a great job with the tour too 👏🏿
As exciting as any mens TDF stage. Maybe a 2 week tour next year.
Why?
Are you joking?
Enjoyed your analysis, thanks.
I can't wait for the increased attention to women's cycling to start paying professionalization dividends! As more women can ride as their full-time gig, we'll see better, more competitive racing. The sport is already leaps and bounds ahead of where it was even a few years ago. If things keep developing as they have, the next four or five years are gonna be outstanding to watch.
I have no idea who is how strong in the time trial tomorrow. And it is realy tight for second and third place. It will be realy interesting to watch. My bet is: Kopecky will be the strongest tomorrow, and get second place in GC.
AVV is still a better TT'er and she will want to do a good last TT in her career, especially after today.
Mind games blowing my mind. Epic ride by Vollering.
Thanks for commentary the first thing I watch in the NZ morning
Actually the title should read Vollering DESTROYS the field on Tourmalet!!
Epic, just fantastic! Thanks
"Vollering hits van Vleuten with "the look". 5.6k's to go and absolutely l a u n c h e s the last 6k & 20minutes of the tourmalet."
"We knew a new Queen was going to be crowned with Niewiadoma being chased in the fog by the spectre of Demi Vollering."
"And Vollering just smashing it, with a new champion elect, riding away with the Tour de France avec Zwift GC in the fog. Iconic images, historical level performance, and much deserved from her, taking the yellow Jersey off her teammate, winning the stage."
See now, THAT's why this is the best cycling summary channel on RUclips!
I'm shocked that Kopecky only lost about 3:30 on this stage. How does she stay with the pure climbers on these gradients?
Was the pace that slow for most of the climb? She dropped many pure climbers.
Reminds of WvA, they're just better
She did well, she only lost 3:30 because Demi/AVV decided to take a nap and wait for the chasing group which was 1 min plus behind after the first mountain and before the Tourmalet, but still a good effort!
That is quite a big gap in cycling, but I also think the jersey has a psychological effect where cyclists push harder to try to retain the jersey and show respect to the Tour (everyone is watching you after all), particularly if the cyclist has mental toughness to push through the pain.
Epic battle which kind of ended how i thought it would but still an awesome final stage before the TT. Chapeau to the directors, the parcours was spot on!
Feel sorry for van Vleuten, she’s a beast of a rider and not a whiner. She’s won a heck of a lot.
I don’t feel sorry for her, I admire her and her gutsy efforts this tour. She is just brilliant but clearly getting tired.
Nice palate cleanser after how the Vuelta ended
Thanks Patrick
It's a bit like Pogi vs Jonas, AVV(Pogi) had a bit of a sub-par day, which happens to be the same day that Vollering(Jonas) had the best legs that anyone has ever had.
Thanks 🙏
Dare we whip out "Thermo-Biblical"?
Amazing Tactics by SD Worx while Movistar, like classic Movistaron the men's side, burned way to many matches too early trying to brute force a win
what choice do they have when the other team have the strongest GC rider this year and also with a second rider already in yellow jersey with a 55 second lead?
The plan made sense: Vollering was thought to be a more short steep punchy climb rider ( HA!) and they had to try and weaken her, and remove her big power 'domestiques'. Age just finally caught up on AVV, and she didn't have her best day. This was on the cards all year.
@lantern rouge. The race finished at 7:30 pm not 9:30.
Wolf in the fog avec Zwift edition
Absolutely epic stage.
This was an epic race with the early attacks, the surprise letting go of Niewiadoma, the tactics, the look and attack, the fog and the obviously wrong timing.
One more thing to highlight: what the hell were Uttrup Ludwig and Labous doing?
Why the hell were they pulling for kms while everybody else was sitting on their wheels?
They must know they are not the best climbers & they must've known other people had more to lose -> more motivation to pull?
I was thinking that Vollering (and maybe AVV) were setting up Niewadoma to do lots of extra work riding solo.
Brutal performance by Vollering, but I'm mostly impressed by Kopecky. Did not expect her to finish 4th today. Wow, what a race!
So happy for the competition! Also goes to show the importance of team work. Once again Newiadoma having no help, but giving it her all. Van Vloutin putting it all on this one race and Vollering showing the beginnings of a new era in woman;s cycling as she takes over and Van Vloutne gets dropped.
Kopecky was the ride of the day, if you look at the leg turnover on the Aspin, you can see Vollering was super smooth, whereas AVV was muscling the gear. AVV should have just shadowed Vollering all day and gambled more, she used way too much energy against a rider who's been fairly dominant all year. It's over for the win.
I didn't understand why and was very frustrated with Labous pulling from that group behind Niewiadoma. Like, there are 2 SD Worx there, let Kopecky pull for Vollering if she wants, but don't work for them. Then her attacks were very weak and fruitless and later she paid for them. I was screaming at my screen: "Let them work for it! you just sit there on any SD Worx wheel"
Kopecky doesn't need to pull. She's in yellow...
@@Tibovl the point was more about making sd worx work, Kasia is up the road and going into virtual yellow at that time if no one pulls and sd worx don’t either
When you know, that you re not the absolut best climber, it is better to ride steady and secure your place in the top 10 in GC. And to be fair, at 8-10 %, there is not much draft anyway
Labous was quite frustrating. Surprised it wasn't included in this recap. Vollering can quote Mercx with her legs today.
Attack: attack once.
Labous is a diesel. I think she wanted to set her own tempo and hope AVV and Vollering watch each other and let her go. She isn't a snappy climber so may have been afraid with a more tactical climb where she could get gapped.
Perfect time for Vollering to take over the reins when AVV retires this year.
Nothing really change, From a Dutch to another Dutch to another Dutch female racer
Demi Vollering DESTROYS Van Vleuten on Tourmalet -- We dont know that, because - like some comments say - we saw just one (!) mountain stage. And it is no exception (for the outstanding riders), that one can win one mountain stage, but cant stand an other one (or three in row) after that. So technically speaking it is just one day ride what DV has won. -- May be (I don't know that) the organisers set just one mountain stage to give (for AvV sake) other riders a change to compete. And because Tourmalet is spectacular...
The Ghost of the Tourmalet. Vollering has fully arrived and everyone is fucked.
mracer8 --> "I hope my m0m does not get pregnant🤰"
@@savagepro9060 ask your mother
@@savagepro9060 your real mother was one smart lady. She is smart enough to take one look at you and dump you.
I feel like another mountain stage mid way in the tour would have made it more intresting for the GC contention. It seemed there was very little separating the riders up till today, with none in the GC really making a move until today. Maybe I'm wrong, have I missed something or would anyone else have liked another mountain stage?
Labous pulling the favorites and yellow jersey up the Tourmalet was the facepalm of the day for me. Truly puzzling.
Maybe she's auditioning for a spot on SD Worx. 😂
nucklehead
She wasn't pulling for the favourites. She wasn't in it to beat Vollering and Van Vleuten. She pulled because she benefits most from setting a high pace and crawling back time on the GC. It's not a facepalm at all.
Well that was very smart from SD to save their entire team all week at cost of several stage wins, just to see most of them getting dropped in the first 3k of the first climb of the day. What an intelligent teamleader they must have when they are not nearly crashing into other cars while guiding their riders back to the front
Devastating performance by Demi Vollering. The new and undisputed queen. What a year she has had. Dominant is an understatement. Destroying. Can she add world champion to her palmares ?
What a way to put the DS drama to bed. Anna Van der breggen is all they need anyway. She is a master tactician. She knows what it takes to beat the goat.
It seems a formality that Demi take this Tour de France. She's a great time trialist. But Annemiek is a two time world time trial champion and current olympic champion. Could she possibly pull that sizeable lead back ? History has shown. Never ever write Annemiek Van Vleuten off. She has the heart of a champion. And as she has done throughout her illustrious career. She will come out fighting.
Nobody can pull Demi back 2:30 in a 14 miles tt unless something happen! however we don't really want to see someone win or lose a race that way if possible!
@@mracer8 Anything can happen. Look what happened to american world champion Chloe Dygert. Leading by a commanding margin and on her way to her 2nd time trial world championship when she entered a corner on a bad angle carrying to much speed, tried to correct along the guardrail sliced her thigh like a steak, and sent her tumbling over the rail and down a steep bank.
Another time Annemiek Van Vleuten was in the All powerful Rabobank team at the World championships, back when team time trial was raced by teams and not countries. They were the favourites, but Annemiek took a technical s curve too tight and crashed the team out of contention.
Anything can happen.
What I really like to know is how did SDW M Reusser who was at the leading group with around 13km left and looking strong manage to finish 88 and 26min behind in 14km? yes I know she finish her job at the early stage of last mountain and probably take it easy after her last pull, but getting pass by almost everyone in such a short time while doing so well just minute before is amazing?!! did she have a mechanical?
saving her legs for the TT
@@JonathanvG-wj1ro is she going for a win? Otherwise what is the point of losing 30 min to gain 30 second in tt
@@mracer8 She's one of the best TT riders so why wouldn't she go for it...
@@JonathanvG-wj1ro she did it, although Demi almost beat her after a all out effort the day before! WC tt will be interesting to watch in few weeks
Yeah boiii!
Estava torcendo por Niewiadoma, é uma ciclista incrível....AvV é uma lenda inquestionável...Demi venceu, mas não "destruiu" ninguém ,pois para isso teríamos de ver mais etapas na alta montanha...
Fascinating to see the top ten. This is like a world championships for climbers. When it was all on the line, it came down to this.
Devastating performance by Demi. The new and undisputed queen. Amazing and brave ride by the legend Kasia. Hearty efforts as per usual by the GOAT Annemiek and Ashley Moolman, and the consistency of Labous is impressive. She is elite. And Kopecky's outstanding climb signals to me that she will switch teams in the near future. She has proven she is a GC contender in her own right.
Santesteban will be over the moon and FDJ pair Uttrup Ludwig and Cavalli should be happy with their climb. And Ricarda Bauernfeind is the young star of the tour. She will be a contender in the future.
Interesting to note who wasn't there. Where were the Lidl Trek girls ? I thought Lizzie Deignan would lead out followed by Gaia Realini to launch Elisa Longo Borghini. I expected Lianne Lippert, Mavi Garcia, and Sylvia Persico to be there too.
Realini didn't go to the Tour, don't know why. ELB was DNS this morning with a skin infection (not heard that DNS reason before but sounds nasty). Lippert put a ton of effort into leading out AvV's attack on the Aspin and dropped herself. Garcia and Persico I can't explain, dropped early and finished 20th and 18th respectively.
@@ColinGLogan Appeciate the detail.
Kopecky should switch team because she will always be #2 with Demi around for awhile, she is not a GC contender with GT that have decent mountain stage, she only lose 3min to Demi is due to the 2 Dutch lady decide to play racing chess and end up waiting for the chasing group with was 1min+ behind at the time, under normal situation, Kopecky could easily lose 5 min plus in this one stage imo
KOpecky isn’t a GC contender.
@@cincydooley She could be.
No san sebastian highlights?
Demi Vollering went “Vol Vollering” on the Tourmalet; amazing!!!
Demigod 👑
woman used to do 18 stages, shame it's been shortened
I thought during both climbs, that avv looked like she was suffering very hard. However I thought as well, that she was faking it...
Reverse pogi like. But I was just wrong :(
Lippert leading out a group of 30 riders?
Thanks for posting! Really never had an interest in the women's TDF, your coverage keeps it interesting.
AvV looked as if she aged 20 years.
well she is almost 15 years older than Vollering tho
AvV will be 41 in a couple months. time will catch us all. which makes her performance these past few years even more staggering 🤯imagine if she had started sooner, she started amateur at 25 so to me she’s one of my favorite athletes ever
Why the cameran shows the wattage of the women but of the men?
Damn
Wow! Dropping AVV is the real deal.
As good as this was, I would have loved to see Gaia Realini ride this stage too. A Realini/Niewiadoma attack might have succeeded
AVV is 40 years old. It's her final year as a pro. I'd say she's doing rather well against the youngsters.
vollering has had vv number fo ages now
Very striking that the only big climbing stage just has 90km and 2 climbs. This stage profile looks like something that even I could ride in a day, and I'm not that fit. I wonder, why don't they give the women's race harder stages? Is it because they feel a stage like this is already differentiating enough in the women's race and they don't want to lose all the sprinters to time limit? Or is it just a traditional thing to make the women's races a bit less harsh than the men's races?
You could really ride that stage in around 3 hours, and ride like that for 8 days in a row? Because that's the only way your comment has vaguely any merit.
@@beejayvandegriendt3632 ?
I just noticed I could ride this in a day, and that's not the case for most of the men's stages. Just wondering why the big discrepancy.
No suffering in her face...
Think Annemiek made a strategic error. Shouldn't have attacked on Col d'Aspin. All what Annemiek needed to do was follow Demi as long as possible. Just sit in her wheel. Annemiek should have known that Demi would recover faster from the efforts in the days before, because of her age. She still would have lost, but the damage would have been much less. Maybe 30 seconds.
AvV was too exposed to the wind when her team was pacing that climb.., for sure she burned some matches there, much needed for later
i think lotte's performance is not being recognized enough, she just beat all those climbers and finished '2' of the tour de France even tho she's not a climber, and she probably would have won it if Demi wasn't there, she would also get many more stages if not for wacky tactics.
The queen is dead. Long live AVV
the queen is dead . . . AGAIN? cries in 'fish and chips'
Movie star rode a very stupid race. They plan backfired. Movie star used up all they climbers on the first climb instead of dropping other in the GC when they were doing all this hard pull they ended up dropping they own which left they leader without any help even before they started the dreaded Tourmalet climb. Whomever came up with this movie star plan really did not see or know just how strong Vollering was. Also they should have stop the pacing on the climb after realizing they were not dropping anyone. Very very bad plan.
please suggest a new plan that can drop the SDW Yellow Jersey who LK who was leading by 55 second at the race start while their go to GC rider is known by everyone to have the strongest leg of anyone this year!
Actually it might be better if SD Worx launch Kopecky eariler since AvV is not in good shape, that can get way more time margin.
That's a after the fact idea, nobody know what kind of leg AVV have today before the race, you have to remember AVV win the Giro coming to this race easily!
Kopecky looks so not right in these groups of 55kg climbers :D
Labou totally bad tactics today
I strongly dislike using words like 'destroy' in the context of sports or social interaction. Why?
all-caps hyperbole in the title is LR's thing. the more ridiculous, the better, especially if it snares a few moaners in the comments pointing out AvV is coming to the end of her career, as if LR somehow wasn't aware.
Wow! 26 years young DESTROY 40 years old. Chapeau
Cannot believe this spoiling in beginner style
Why don't they run the race with the Tour de France, have the 1st women's race the day after the men's 1st race and so on.
You obviously don't understand the logistics and resources involved in stage racing.
Plus, the audience is very much the same, in cycling watching one Grand Tour at a time is more than enough.
There would be a large overlap. The women’s event last only 8 days. They won’t reach Paris in tandem. Next, the course for the men is mostly too demanding for the ladies: distance and gradient severity.
That's the only way to truly get people like me to watch women's racing. Same day, women start a couple hours earlier and have shorter stages. Same 3 week calendar. The do this in amateur racing and it works. Lower categories go early and pros go last.
Make the women's race run the final 8 days of the Tour de France, that way they end up in Paris on the same day.
Could you stop spoiling?
Slechte winnaar
VV was not good taticaly on thos stage
Remco vid remco vid remco vid
AVV is one of the greats but technically she's terrible. Very poor descender.
If Jonas Vingegaard marries Demi Vollering!
third!
first
NO MAS
What. A. Stage. TDFF > TDF
Not until they stretch it to 3 full weeks
Vann blow oten
💉💉💉
Hey if it makes the racing more exciting, I say let 'em go full juice.
is really anyone watching woman tdf ?
Lanterne Rouge
What an appalling title, what about Vollering & SDworx dominate on Tourmalet
Of course vollering was in very good form, and congratulations to her.
However, it is not a case of HER destroying (an offensive and superfluous word when commentating on sport) AvV.
AvV was definitely not at her best, and was also riding against SDworx as a whole, you say it yourself Vollering refused to ride and asked her team to help her, it took a team effort to beat AvV (and confuse everyone else), and that was probably their plan, AvV was seen to be the only person who could beat Vollering.
I don’t where you get that, “Vollering gave her the look”, what a absurd statement? How do you know?
But still, congratulations to Vollering!
A changing of the guard so to speak!
And AvV, 40 years old, cycling among women nearly young enough to be her own kids (and beating them), coming home in fourth place, still promoting women’s cycling (who’s going to replace her) and still doing so well, congratulations to AvV, just thought I’d mention that for you!
I’ll leave this up for a while, interesting to see the remarks
she is very rude
yes, 26 yo Demi “destroys” 40 yo AVV. impressive stuff. yawn.