The way dead 🌽✨ are treated when we discover they die always makes me sick. Like even in death these people can’t be at peace. Thanks for letting me be apart of this video 💞
I'm ready for this vid because the way people (a lot of the times other black people) make jokes about Whitney Houston's substance abuse pisses me off. I remembered this when Remy Ma was doing "Rate the Bars" on BET's youtube channel. Joe Budden's cornball self said he was "higher than Whitney Houston," and she immediately gave it a 0, saying don't talk about Whitney.
EXACTLY! I've been increasingly fascinated with Whitney and her music/performances. I'm saying this because I am a singer myself and I've always appreciated her voice even before she died. I didn't know what was going on in her personal life until I saw Oprah's interview back in middle school. I knew bits and pieces about the abusive Bobby and Whitney relationship and the drug use, but I didn't know it was THAT bad until I watched a documentary about her and then re-watched her 09 interview with Oprah years later and... It all unfortunately makes sense why coke and Marijuana were her unhealthy coping mechanisms. She also had very complicated family dynamics too. I will admit that I willingly bought a shirt from Etsy with her face on it, but I did so because of the admiration I still have for her as a performer and a musician
I feel like Ellie from UP was one of the few cases where the dead women served a major positive influence on the story and male protagonist. The whole story was centered around Carl’s grief over her death, which motivates him to go find paradise falls and eventually learn to let go and move on with his life. Despite being dead, her presence still contributes to the story and embodies the movie’s theme of learning to deal with loss and moving on. Also they actually show us what she was like when she alive and makes us care for her.
I’ve been waiting for someone to discuss this topic, Whitney, Aaliyah, and Selena Quintanilla will always be treated differently from their other counterparts. Women who die early will NEVER be respected, these women are still treated like Sara Baartman. These women died early, they still, in death, have to deal with male artists in the industry still sexualizing or mocking them, their faces being plastered onto everything without their consent, people taking their life and making them into fan fictions, and them being used to play in these fan wars to discredit other female artists. And don’t get me started on their holograms. Aaliyah and Selena are a whole different topic since they died very young, they’re not regarded to also be child stars despite their careers starting when they were literal kids, they’re more likely to be sexualized than mocked, with the need for people to try to humble them and so the multiple accusations of them being fast also suddenly appear. The way people treat Selena and Aaliyah shows a bigger issue in society that’s been going on before, during, and after their lives and shows how people treat young women like them.
everytime i see something with marilyn monroe's face plastered over it i roll my eyes because that girl went through hell but people are still objectifying her even in death it's sad
He literally took his wife's last name when they got married. I thought her role in the story was gonna be important. Maybe a mystery we gotta solve, like Yuji's mom
@@adamas5925 because it comes down to the conclusion of lazy writing, that they don't want to add any storyline for these characters to have both parents or any parents .
Toji's wife says, we should treat women better period. This video really opened my eyes to how flawed society is when it comes to women, both living and dead, and we gotta be better period, this is gonna take a cultural reset and seeing women as people and giving them proper and respectful treatment, period. Also the jjk thing really upset me like nah, fuck gege
Kurt Cobain had horrific lows with his drug addictions and his actions affected so many people around him but rock media glosses over that and deifies him while we're made to never forget the drug problems Whitney Houston went through. A lot of the Gen X former grunge dudes don't like to be reminded that Kurt was.... just a 27 year old guy.
The profound effect Megumi's mother had on Toji's life is only shown whenever Toji stops being a "Bad Dad"™, which in the totality of the manga isn't much.
Toji’s wife seems like a plot device so he would turn evil. Her death was needed for him to become a assassin and for the later events to happen (geto turning evil, gojo becoming the honoured one, riko dying, the breakup of the friendship etc)
It sucks we never got to see any flashbacks or episodes with her since you’d have to be a pretty interesting person yourself to not only get with Toji, but also make him give up being a sorcerer hunter and start a family with you. I’ve seen fanart and fanfics that added way more to her character than the small crumbs gege left.
Sarah Baartman's story genuinely makes me so sad, the way she was treated in life and death is unacceptable. I'm glad that she's finally at rest in her homeland.
I was so mad when Yuki died and Choso lived. I love Choso but I thought everything was set up that he was putting his life on the line. Or if anything both of them died but just Yuki. Also it made me frustrated just because it felt like Gege wrote Kenjaku to just always have a one up on these characters that are supposed to be competent.
I had to be in a certain headspace to watch this, but Black women especially are expected to be the perfect victim, and even then they still often get mocked.
Omgg I loveee Selena!! I'm so glad you mentioned her in this video as the way she is talked about is starting to be quite disturbing. I hate the fact how they gave that old hag her own documentary..it's so disrespectful. her death is starting to disturb me more as time goes on as it reminds me a lot of the way many treat Marilyn.
(Spoilers warning for JJK) On the subject of JJK, the deaths are more annoying than they are heartbreaking because it feels like they are done out of shock value. With the exception of Nanami, when characters die, it feels like it's done out of spite and not to make any meaningful impact. I feel like Nobara's death embodied that the best. It was so out of nowhere and had no reason to happen that there are still people who believe she's alive. Her death was completely pointless and unnecessary. At that point, why should we care about characters or the story if you're just going to kill them off without elaborating?And it is frustrating that nearly the entire female cast gets the worst of this treatment
Bringing up a series where it was so coded for one of the main female characters to die, Gundam: Witch From Mercury, and it being the main 3 girls, Suletta, her mom Prospera, and her girlfriend Miorine. Yet they didn't, and even had a beautiful ending for them (despite the anime not being afraid to kill quite a few girls off)
You could do another video on whθrephobia alone. Especially intersecting with misogynoir and transmisogynoir. Multiple cereal k€llers have targeted Black textworkers specifically or women suffering from addiction. Also not to be critical of Bobby Brown, but I feel like he gets the most grace out of his family despite Whitney and Bobbi Kristina both passing for similar reasons. Hardly anyone cares about their daughter. I get annoyed when people see a death as a tragedy for a man but not the victim. Like their suffering is secondary. It's one of my nitpicks about the Apothecary Diaries anime when it comes to MaoMao's mother. It feels like she is a background object for her daughter and the general.
Growing up the people who listened to Aaliyah loved her as an artist and when she died it was an emotional loss (especially in Chicago). We didn't grow up with Marilyn Monroe so she felt more like a product (which is something she would have absolutely hated). I think when it comes to R. Kelly, a lot of people throw women like Aaliyah under the bus to defend him and his so-called legacy and reputation. And they attack all of his victims. I didn't know Aaliyah but I always feel bad for how she was harmed and not protected as a child. And she wasn't the only one. There are so many predators in music and film (e.g. P Diddy, Mary J, Nickelodeon, Bill Cosby, Woody Allen, Prince, etc.).
Also, Bryony Claire has an excellent 2 part series that delves into the life of Marilyn Monroe. It's long, but highly fascinating. She also had another video where she did a full rant on the Blonde movie. She also has a video essay about Whitney, Amy Winehouse, and Pamela Anderson too
HarriYAWNna amirite? Looks like Toji's wife needs get some sleep or sum. I love Whitney so much! She got treated terribly and I feel still gets joked about because of how black communities often joke on something aggressively when they're uncomfortable with how it relates to them. I rarely get shirts with people on them, but when I went to the store and saw the one I ended up buying, my brain went "Whitney! That's going in the cart". And it's inch resting how Marilyn gets a completely different presentation in media, often with an "I could've fixed her" lens. They both had very similar issues. If there's an afterlife, I'd love to hang out with them for dinner because the three of us would be so funny. But in my time here on this rock, may no one slander the name of Eartha Kitt. Amen 🙏
I had to watch this again. This was such a well constructed video Toji's wife. And thx for putting me on Zombieland Saga. When I think about not only how these women coundn't escape dehumanization even after death it makes me. Especially when I remember what happened to Marilyn Monroe's body after she died, and how Sarah Baartman's body was left on desplay for YEARS. It honestly makes me sick.
i don't know if you've ever read chainsaw man but i'd love your perspective on the female characters. to many fujimoto tatsuki is a shounen author who /actually/ does write good women, and interestingly almost just as many of his protagonists are women as they are men (mostly in one shots he's written). in both part 1 and 2 of csm the women play a pretty unique role to the story but anyway i just don't know how the hell gege managed to get crowned as the pinnacle of female character writing. they ate with maybe that one scene and then fucked up the rest of the kitchen, it just unsettles me deeply. but your cosplay ate downnnnnnn
Tojis Wife ! also thank you for this I literally complain about this all the time especially when female characters only exist to give purpose or drive to a male characters plot or character growth its so common as a writing trope! Side note I did enjoy the movie lisa frankenstine for this reason since it had to do with that of the story of a girl dealing with grief and trauma after loosing her mom. I love that movie so much but even then I do wish the movie spoke about her mother even a bit more
My wish for anime or action shows etc is that no female characters are ever killed off or harmed for the plot to progress. No mom is killed and now I have to become the strongest sorcerer etc
@@harriyanna why is the default women=good people/morally superior? Y'all whine about anything. As if a alot of male characters don't die to further the plot in this story.
The way dead 🌽✨ are treated when we discover they die always makes me sick. Like even in death these people can’t be at peace. Thanks for letting me be apart of this video 💞
Or they suddenly deify them even though they clowned and made fun of their pain when they were alive...
@@rebeccassweetmusic4632 yup this
@@ellapastoral Wendy Williams is a great example of this, but luckily Whitney clocked her every time in that "interview" lol
Its entitled men who say dumb stuff like
“Where is she a
Buried” like tf is wrong with you…
I'm ready for this vid because the way people (a lot of the times other black people) make jokes about Whitney Houston's substance abuse pisses me off.
I remembered this when Remy Ma was doing "Rate the Bars" on BET's youtube channel. Joe Budden's cornball self said he was "higher than Whitney Houston," and she immediately gave it a 0, saying don't talk about Whitney.
EXACTLY! I've been increasingly fascinated with Whitney and her music/performances. I'm saying this because I am a singer myself and I've always appreciated her voice even before she died. I didn't know what was going on in her personal life until I saw Oprah's interview back in middle school. I knew bits and pieces about the abusive Bobby and Whitney relationship and the drug use, but I didn't know it was THAT bad until I watched a documentary about her and then re-watched her 09 interview with Oprah years later and... It all unfortunately makes sense why coke and Marijuana were her unhealthy coping mechanisms. She also had very complicated family dynamics too. I will admit that I willingly bought a shirt from Etsy with her face on it, but I did so because of the admiration I still have for her as a performer and a musician
I feel like Ellie from UP was one of the few cases where the dead women served a major positive influence on the story and male protagonist. The whole story was centered around Carl’s grief over her death, which motivates him to go find paradise falls and eventually learn to let go and move on with his life. Despite being dead, her presence still contributes to the story and embodies the movie’s theme of learning to deal with loss and moving on. Also they actually show us what she was like when she alive and makes us care for her.
I’ve been waiting for someone to discuss this topic, Whitney, Aaliyah, and Selena Quintanilla will always be treated differently from their other counterparts. Women who die early will NEVER be respected, these women are still treated like Sara Baartman. These women died early, they still, in death, have to deal with male artists in the industry still sexualizing or mocking them, their faces being plastered onto everything without their consent, people taking their life and making them into fan fictions, and them being used to play in these fan wars to discredit other female artists. And don’t get me started on their holograms.
Aaliyah and Selena are a whole different topic since they died very young, they’re not regarded to also be child stars despite their careers starting when they were literal kids, they’re more likely to be sexualized than mocked, with the need for people to try to humble them and so the multiple accusations of them being fast also suddenly appear. The way people treat Selena and Aaliyah shows a bigger issue in society that’s been going on before, during, and after their lives and shows how people treat young women like them.
What I hate is that these famous women had terrible lives yet society milks it off when they’re dead. Like wtf?!
The only thing they're remembered for :/
everytime i see something with marilyn monroe's face plastered over it i roll my eyes because that girl went through hell but people are still objectifying her even in death it's sad
Toji’s wife that for some reason still doesn’t have a name 😭🥴
like!?!?! that's so fowl come on BARE MINIMUM
I know right? That sucks!
He literally took his wife's last name when they got married. I thought her role in the story was gonna be important.
Maybe a mystery we gotta solve, like Yuji's mom
Some people call her mamaguro 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@gertrudesatekge2635 bro plz🤣
In Disney movies, it seems like every protagonist must have a dead parent, especially if it's a mother. It just seems really old hat nowadays.
True
In shounen, it's often the main characters being fatherless or completely parentless though
It's very overdone.
@@adamas5925 because it comes down to the conclusion of lazy writing, that they don't want to add any storyline for these characters to have both parents or any parents .
@nes96 i mean if it works then it works.
Toji's wife says, we should treat women better period. This video really opened my eyes to how flawed society is when it comes to women, both living and dead, and we gotta be better period, this is gonna take a cultural reset and seeing women as people and giving them proper and respectful treatment, period. Also the jjk thing really upset me like nah, fuck gege
I was always ticked off when people sexualized sex workers even when they die but nobody talks about it. Thank you for bringing this issue to light
The treatment of Whitney is sick, her own family is milking her legacy a dollar it’s sad.
Kurt Cobain had horrific lows with his drug addictions and his actions affected so many people around him but rock media glosses over that and deifies him while we're made to never forget the drug problems Whitney Houston went through.
A lot of the Gen X former grunge dudes don't like to be reminded that Kurt was.... just a 27 year old guy.
The profound effect Megumi's mother had on Toji's life is only shown whenever Toji stops being a "Bad Dad"™, which in the totality of the manga isn't much.
Toji’s wife seems like a plot device so he would turn evil. Her death was needed for him to become a assassin and for the later events to happen (geto turning evil, gojo becoming the honoured one, riko dying, the breakup of the friendship etc)
It sucks we never got to see any flashbacks or episodes with her since you’d have to be a pretty interesting person yourself to not only get with Toji, but also make him give up being a sorcerer hunter and start a family with you. I’ve seen fanart and fanfics that added way more to her character than the small crumbs gege left.
Sarah Baartman's story genuinely makes me so sad, the way she was treated in life and death is unacceptable. I'm glad that she's finally at rest in her homeland.
I propose that we call her Madame Fushiguro since it was her name. Toji's name was Zenin at first
I was so mad when Yuki died and Choso lived. I love Choso but I thought everything was set up that he was putting his life on the line. Or if anything both of them died but just Yuki. Also it made me frustrated just because it felt like Gege wrote Kenjaku to just always have a one up on these characters that are supposed to be competent.
I had to be in a certain headspace to watch this, but Black women especially are expected to be the perfect victim, and even then they still often get mocked.
Omgg I loveee Selena!! I'm so glad you mentioned her in this video as the way she is talked about is starting to be quite disturbing. I hate the fact how they gave that old hag her own documentary..it's so disrespectful. her death is starting to disturb me more as time goes on as it reminds me a lot of the way many treat Marilyn.
(Spoilers warning for JJK)
On the subject of JJK, the deaths are more annoying than they are heartbreaking because it feels like they are done out of shock value. With the exception of Nanami, when characters die, it feels like it's done out of spite and not to make any meaningful impact. I feel like Nobara's death embodied that the best. It was so out of nowhere and had no reason to happen that there are still people who believe she's alive. Her death was completely pointless and unnecessary. At that point, why should we care about characters or the story if you're just going to kill them off without elaborating?And it is frustrating that nearly the entire female cast gets the worst of this treatment
OMG this!!
Bringing up a series where it was so coded for one of the main female characters to die, Gundam: Witch From Mercury, and it being the main 3 girls, Suletta, her mom Prospera, and her girlfriend Miorine. Yet they didn't, and even had a beautiful ending for them (despite the anime not being afraid to kill quite a few girls off)
You could do another video on whθrephobia alone. Especially intersecting with misogynoir and transmisogynoir. Multiple cereal k€llers have targeted Black textworkers specifically or women suffering from addiction. Also not to be critical of Bobby Brown, but I feel like he gets the most grace out of his family despite Whitney and Bobbi Kristina both passing for similar reasons. Hardly anyone cares about their daughter. I get annoyed when people see a death as a tragedy for a man but not the victim. Like their suffering is secondary. It's one of my nitpicks about the Apothecary Diaries anime when it comes to MaoMao's mother. It feels like she is a background object for her daughter and the general.
Growing up the people who listened to Aaliyah loved her as an artist and when she died it was an emotional loss (especially in Chicago). We didn't grow up with Marilyn Monroe so she felt more like a product (which is something she would have absolutely hated). I think when it comes to R. Kelly, a lot of people throw women like Aaliyah under the bus to defend him and his so-called legacy and reputation. And they attack all of his victims. I didn't know Aaliyah but I always feel bad for how she was harmed and not protected as a child. And she wasn't the only one. There are so many predators in music and film (e.g. P Diddy, Mary J, Nickelodeon, Bill Cosby, Woody Allen, Prince, etc.).
Ouuu Harry!!! When you went all the way back to Sarah I knew you weren’t fucking around. You better come thru with the research 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
i don't play about sara now
@@harriyanna I remember hearing about Sarah in high school; it's still so devastating to think about it.
Also, Bryony Claire has an excellent 2 part series that delves into the life of Marilyn Monroe. It's long, but highly fascinating. She also had another video where she did a full rant on the Blonde movie. She also has a video essay about Whitney, Amy Winehouse, and Pamela Anderson too
That cosplay is the cutest you did amazing
The disrespect and jokes about Whitney Houston irk my soul. She’s a legend deserves and so much better. 💐🕊️
Thanks for talking about this. I also appreciated the guest commentator's thoughts.
HarriYAWNna amirite? Looks like Toji's wife needs get some sleep or sum. I love Whitney so much! She got treated terribly and I feel still gets joked about because of how black communities often joke on something aggressively when they're uncomfortable with how it relates to them. I rarely get shirts with people on them, but when I went to the store and saw the one I ended up buying, my brain went "Whitney! That's going in the cart".
And it's inch resting how Marilyn gets a completely different presentation in media, often with an "I could've fixed her" lens. They both had very similar issues. If there's an afterlife, I'd love to hang out with them for dinner because the three of us would be so funny. But in my time here on this rock, may no one slander the name of Eartha Kitt. Amen 🙏
Nicole. Brown. Simpson.
I had to watch this again. This was such a well constructed video Toji's wife. And thx for putting me on Zombieland Saga. When I think about not only how these women coundn't escape dehumanization even after death it makes me. Especially when I remember what happened to Marilyn Monroe's body after she died, and how Sarah Baartman's body was left on desplay for YEARS. It honestly makes me sick.
Toji's wife, amazing video as always!!♡
i don't know if you've ever read chainsaw man but i'd love your perspective on the female characters. to many fujimoto tatsuki is a shounen author who /actually/ does write good women, and interestingly almost just as many of his protagonists are women as they are men (mostly in one shots he's written). in both part 1 and 2 of csm the women play a pretty unique role to the story
but anyway i just don't know how the hell gege managed to get crowned as the pinnacle of female character writing. they ate with maybe that one scene and then fucked up the rest of the kitchen, it just unsettles me deeply. but your cosplay ate downnnnnnn
Toji’s wife!!! I love your content lololol. It gets better every video. Also shout out to chemical X by Cherish.
thank you so much 💙💙💙
Tojis Wife ! also thank you for this I literally complain about this all the time especially when female characters only exist to give purpose or drive to a male characters plot or character growth its so common as a writing trope!
Side note I did enjoy the movie lisa frankenstine for this reason since it had to do with that of the story of a girl dealing with grief and trauma after loosing her mom. I love that movie so much but even then I do wish the movie spoke about her mother even a bit more
My wish for anime or action shows etc is that no female characters are ever killed off or harmed for the plot to progress. No mom is killed and now I have to become the strongest sorcerer etc
I was looking forward to this video since you mentioned it
Side note, that hair really suits you!!! ❤
42:12 -> Thank you! Deeply appreciated. ❤
Toji's wife, I agree with this video. The way dead women are treating are annoying and bad
W video and your cosplay is gorgeous.
Toji's wife!
Very nice video overrall
Unrelated: but are you aware of Melanie Hamlett? She did a video (two part) to review Revolutionary Road.
Shonen anime barely treat their women with respect. So of course JJK killed off those women. 🙄
I love you glasses, where are they from?
you forgot about Hannah Montana
this video was long ENOUGH i had to pick and choose what to talk about lol i didn't forget anything
Can u give us the link to the wig please? It looks so good!!
yes of course! it's an anime wig that i styled a bit www.amazon.com/dp/B07P5BNSSQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Toji’s wife 💕
No because I LOVEEE zombie land saga so bad
You look like Toni Braxton
Yuji doesnt even get to shine and yall complaining about yuki and nobara? Maki literally exists.
The whole of the kyoto school is trash.
congratulations, you missed entire point of this video.
@@harriyanna why is the default women=good people/morally superior? Y'all whine about anything. As if a alot of male characters don't die to further the plot in this story.
Toji's Wife!!!
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