The fact that these grown yt women are crying and throwing a fit over a fan cast of Rapunzel but not giving a single f*ck about the genocide in Gaza, speaks volumes
Can’t the same be said of you? You’re out here crying about not being the center of media that white people create, while you do jack about Gaza. All of you will still buy American products and contribute to this system you endlessly complain about, while doing nothing but consume.
I feel like people who bring up that point, were like... 'born yesterday' or some shit. They are really extremely ignorant. Makes me think that they may not even be adults, yet. If they are adults, then it's even worse. tsk.
that whole rebuttal is flawed. the fact that they can only name one black princess to “race swap”vs the numerous white princesses that have always been white in the disney continuity is telling of how white everything has been for centuries.
also there has only been ONE live action casting by disney that has been a different race and it’s literally just halle as ariel 😭 why do those brain dead racists think disney has been doing for ever because they just found out about the word “woke.”
I am so tired. "What if Tiana was-" like shut up 😭. Tiana's race literally is central to her character. Also why would you change the only black princess, and strip away the single representation we have.
These be the same people who don’t watch original stories created by POCs when they say stupid shit like, “CREATE YOUR OWN STORIES” with a fucking fan casts of all things. 😒
These grown women really got nothing better to do than bitch over fictional characters. It's sad. And I bet they've never even picked up a book containing older iterations of the characters pre-disney either.
@@sissysovereign1294 exactly! When I rant about fictional characters, I do it in Discord or with social media friends, away from the actress. That's called manners.
Y'all, people are so freaking weird. Brandy's Cinderella movie is one of my comfort movies, and she and the prince are the only reason I will be watching Descendants 4. Well, that and Uma is returning, and Dara Renee is in it. But like, when I heard that Brandy and Paolo were cast, I just assumed Chad was adopted. It's not that hard. My only confusion was how people as great as them created someone like *that*. Even if Chad is erased as a character, it doesn't matter, a bunch of the main cast isn't coming back for the forth movie, so there's no point in throwing a fit over Chad.
TBF, Cinderella, and Prince Charming technically did appear in Descendants 1 and 2, and the extras they had for them were clearly white. Chad's parents were clearly the 1950s version of Cinderella and Prince Charming, not the 90s version. Unless both versions somehow exist in the same universe, I don't see how any of this is supposed to make sense.
The way people get so butt hurt over these fictional characters, fan castings and pretend they're a die hard fan of these disney princesses like really? All of a sudden, the rapunzel and snow white fan club emerged out of nowhere. The way they're treating Avantika and Rachel Zegler is so absurd and hella weird. Just say you're racist and/or find it hard to see yourself as a character that's not white.
invalid argument. if anything its the black and brown people that are racist for wanting to blackwash out of spite. as its done out of a racial hatred against white people. POC are the first to cry whenever their race isnt "represented", even if its characters that arent theirs. so you are projecting badly. normalize realizing that its the black and brown people that are racist for wanting to appropriate characters that arent theirs.
i also saw ppl being colorist like crazy. the "keep rapunzel white" crowd kept bringing up her blonde hair as a defense, and when people brought up hair dye, wigs, and extensions, they were so quick with the "yeah but it wouldn't suit her/she won't look good" 🤨 and why is that? why do you think she won't look good with blonde hair? ugh i hate it here
Also it’s hilarious because they’re conveniently forgetting that a) Rapunzel is a natural brunette anyway, not blonde and b) ANY actress would need a wig, no one has hair that long
Right. They did the same thing when Nico Parker was cast to play Astrid in How to Train your Dragon. Like so what she's a 1/4 black? It's really not that deep....
Tbf I would like her to keep her dark hair for the role if she ever does play it, I actually do think she would look better with black hair and Rapunzel is the embodiment of hegemonic generic white femininity, casting a dark-skinned brown woman and the LETTING HER rock her natural dark features(such as hair) would help subvert the popular societal message that blonde hair and thus whiteness is the standard of beauty. Plus it would actually be a pretty big "fuck you" to the people who are upset that she's not white, by not forcing her to be adjacent to whiteness. It is for this reason that I am glad that they didn't make Annabeth Chase white when they casted a Black girl, Leah Sava Jeffries, to play her. They allowed her to be unapologetically Black and didn't try to dilute her features with typically "white" traits such as blonde hair. Because it's about the actress' talent, not how they look. I'm fine with Halle Bailey's Ariel still being a redhead, though, since red hair is further from the standard of beauty than blonde hair is, Ariel's hair being red has a very good reason behind it, and you're more likely to meet a Black natural redhead than a Black natural blonde.
invalid argument. using your own logic, then it makes no sense to make Rapunzel brown. yall just want justify you blackwashing to appropriate white culture because black and brown people are fervent racists full of hatred. Yall just use codewords and dog whistles like "diversity" and "inclusion" to cover it up.
I always did tbh. Rapunzel, Tiana and Mulan are my favourite three Disney princesses and their princes are my favourite three Disney princes. It's been that way since I was little and I still watch their movies today.
Right! It also annoys me that people were upset over HER playing Belle because she's Black and Filipino, but eat up Emma Watson who talent wise, was not right for the role because she can't even sing, and a lot of people were mad when she got the role at first because of that, but now they stan her as Belle just because they don't like HER playing Belle. Not to mention, when HER was cast they said Belle had to be played by a French woman, but Emma Watson is British.....
The thing that bothers me about these conversations is that all it takes is the perception of white people feeling like marginalized people are getting some kind of agency, education, or even comfort on a larger scale platform like published Television to see it as a threat on their hold over power. That's really the driver for these kind of angry reactions and accusations of "Blackwashing" every time these conversations come up. Never mind the overwhelming evidence like the data from the McKinsey and Company study showing the massive racial disparities in Hollywood, both in front of and behind the camera showing it's an overwhelmingly white, male wealthy industry especially at the director's level. Never mind that Black off-screen talent is primarily responsible for creating opportunities for other Black off-screen talent. It WILL keep happening again. Miles Morales, Ariel, April O'Neil, it keeps happening over and over again. It's all about the perceived threat on power from racial minorities "taking over." "I'm not racist, I just want to see originally Black/South Asian/Whatever" is basically the evolution of the "forced diversity" talking point. "Tiana can be white, what if they whitewashed her?" They already did do Tiana dirty in her own movie. They lightened and had to reanimate her in Wreck it Ralph 2. I love Tiana, but Princess and the Frog is already a whitewashed take on 1920s New Orleans, a sanitizied of Misogynoir toward a real Black woman, and the white Hollywood vilified portrayal of African religion. It's so frustrating because most of the Black movies they keep throwing in our face are already deeply flawed or still support white supremacy in many ways even if Black people still like them or support them. Black Panther is one of the most blatantly imperialist stories to come out in how it frames its conflict. People were so wildly colorist, misogynistic, and fatphobic toward the concept of April O'Neil being fat and dark-skinned in Mutant Mayhem when she's one of the best parts of the movie. The movie itself has the most anti-Black narrative in how the entire movie is built around the Black brute caricature in how Superfly is portrayed as violent and angry with the motivating factor of fighting against a violent, prejudiced society. The movie is a scarily accurate recreation of the model minority myth in how it utilizes an Asian father (who himself is racist caricature) is portrayed as more sympathetic for thinking himself "prejudiced" for disliking people for...literally almost killing his children out of their prejudiced violence? The Proud Family was repeatedly decried as "woke" despite it repeatedly mishandling and misrepresenting the very topics it continually brings up at almost every single corner. So this idea that racial minorities are taking over represents the white anxieties to the threat over power of access to be able to publish media on a wide-scale to a large audience. According to the McKinsey study of 2021, the Racial and gender mix for C-suite executives is 92% white and 80% male and they know it's a predominantly wealthy white industry in power. But they'll stay being racist toward South Asians and only see them as worth looking at when it's the most blatantly Orientalist portrayal of Asian people imaginable and get upset when they talk about their grievances with the portrayal. They'll stay being Anti-Black unless the movie is basically a minstrel show that supports their views and whims. They're not just angry at racial minorities existing, but specifically take issue with anything that seemingly does not specifically center a white gaze of how a non-white person is perceived.
Wow your comment was so insightful, I love tmnt mutant mayhem and looking back on it, there are some problematic aspects to it sadly:( I agree, I’ve always thought that the reason white people get so angry when we’re pushed to the front is because they’re afraid of some minority takeover or something. Like, they’ve been so afraid of us gaining more recourses and power that they fear that we’ll treat them just as badly as they’ve treated us? It’s honestly scary that they know what they’re doing is bad but they continue to spread bigotry like it’s nothing. Like, I feel they complain about us getting rep cause they know it’s gonna challenge their already racist viewpoints on poc. But wow, you articulated everything so perfectly
Just to break the “but I grew up with that character” argument down more: Ariel was my favorite character growing up and i saw a lot of myself in her and she still means a lot to me. When it was announced Halle Bailey was playing her in the live action, I saw it as now young Black girls could grow up and see themselves in the same character I did. But it was especially for them, and you know what, I’m completely ok with that. I got more adult matters to worry about. Same with a south Asian Rapunzel. I actually think like a Bollywood inspired remake of Rapunzel could be a lot of fun.
One of the biggest aspects of the Brandi Cinderella movie WAS the colorblind casting. They could keep the white boy if they wanted and it would still be true to the originating universe. (Or did people actually think a white king and a black queen would pop out an Asian baby?!? That's not how genetics work folks.. ) Brandi's Cinderella is a childhood favorite and I'm so glad she gets to reprise her role.
I loooooved the Brandi Cinderella back in the 90s. I watched it as a kid and I'm still mad that the soundtrack is not readily available to buy. I had to rip the audio of the film to listen to it on my MP3 player back in the day. I bought it on DVD during lockdown and made all of my friends watch it. Excellent video as always 💜
Honestly, that beautiful girl Avantika, was one of my favorite characters of the Mean Girls 2 movie. She was perfect, in a very cute and ditzy way. And hold up!? Brandy is returning as Cinderella!? I'm so gonna watch that then! I have never seen Descendants, but to see Brandy, I'd go watch it!
It’s not Mean Girls 2, It’s Mean Girls 2024 or Mean Girls the Musical. Js wanted to let u know cus mean girls 2 came out it 2011 and is like a Disney channel horrible version of mean girls but with swearing
I can’t with the internet constantly tearing down young women and ruining their image for no reason. Halle Bailey, Rachel Ziegler, Avantika, the list goes on.
Thank you, Harriyanna for being an Ally to darkskin South Asian artists like myself. 📣 👏 LEAH 👏 CHASE 👏 and Brandy Cinderella foreverrrrrrrrrr in the kingdom of Blasia
speaking of hair, i remember when i heard someone say that baljeet was part black because of his curly hair. ppl genuinely dont realize that curly hair is actually very common amongst south asians and that they dont all have bone straight hair.
The outrage is not justified. There are bigger issues going on and people are arguing about this? Where is the outrage when a White person portrays a Black or POC character? These fandoms… Thank you for making this video, Harriyanna⭐️🫡 !
“Where is the outrage when a white person portrays a black or pic character?” Then they say it’s “not that deep” or use the few instances of POC and black people playing white characters as a reason as to why race swapping is ok. Of course being obtuse to the difference between POC/black representation and erasure.
they act like they didnt do halle’s hair for the character. disney did it once, and they can do it again 💀 the hair is magical + the character is not a natural blonde sooo i think it makes sense if the actor isnt a natural blonde either. but honestly they should just give it to someone with the best acting and singing abilities! hair (and skin color, since thats what they ACTUALLY care about) shouldnt be the end all be all for why someone should be casted
I loved Brandi as Cinderella and that movie is a comfort movie. I loved retelling stories as a kid too. I remember there being i believe a Cinderella with koi slippers.
It was sooo absurd to see people thinking Karen Shetty was unrealistic for being a popular brown girl when I went to school in an ethnically diverse county. I remember a very pretty girl in my 9th grade gym period (so pretty that another girl gave her the _very_ backhanded compliment of "you're too pretty to be in the STEM magnet program," as she was in the STEM magnet program), and she was relatively popular: she hung out with other popular kids and did popular kid things like running for student council. Actually, a significant portion of the popular kids were socially adept (but with varying levels of niceness...) Asian and wasian kids who got elected for student council and did sports. Like, RIP to y'all for growing up in a monoracial area, but I'm different.
I’m so glad that you have made a video on this because I have also been pissed off! Avantika had to deal with a lot when she was Karen in the recent mean girls movie musical and now she has to deal WITH THIS NONSENSE!!! People need to know it’s not that serious because people have also been making a big deal out of the recent casting of Juliet in the West end production of Romeo and Juliet in the UK when in reality, WHEN DID PEOPLE START CARING ABOUT ROMEO AND JULIET BECAUSE IF YOU ASK THE AVERAGE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT ON THE MOST OVER-TAUGHT ASSIGNED READING THEY WILL PROBABLY SAY ROMEO AND JULIET!!! The backlash got so bad that not only did the theater issue a statement on their account but they had to turn the comments off. There are also people who seemed to be okay with fan casting Gal gadot as Esmeralda when Esmeralda is of Romani descent and it’s tiring. The only thing they need to cry over are the social issues going on in the world like what’s happening in Palestine, Congo, and Sudan.
European features of beauty like blonde hair and blue eyes been portrayed in every movie,TV show,etc for the longest time. They also draw black hairstyles on non black characters in fan arts
I get where you’re coming from but, Disney’s little mermaid doesn’t take place in Denmark. It takes place in Italy, I saw it in a random Disney facts clip. People are more focused on Ariel being ginger than anything else, they want everything accurate to the Disney film not the original source material.
@@lreneewell9154 to me i don’t think i can have a say in Nani’s casting because I’m not Hawaiian. Funny enough I seen some Hawaiian RUclipsrs defend the casting. And to me as long as they’re happy it’s what matters. Personally I’m just tired of live actions but 🤷♀️
@@moondivine2288 thats fair. though ive seen the same defending over nani's casting, i also have seen a lot of outrage considering how nani being a native hawaiian affects her, and how having someone who is just hawaiian nationally rather than ethnically is disrespectful to the many native hawaiian actresses out there. more often than not, i think people have an issue with representation in media when their background matters to the story. the reason tiana could never be white in a live-action of the princess and the frog (despite what many like to say) is because her being a black women in 1920s america does in fact matter to her story. the reason ariel could be black in the live-action is because the story being danish in origin does not affect the story in a major way.
cinderella and rapunzel are two of my favorite princesses, and i one hundred percent support these actresses! people need to chill, rapunzel's important trait was having very long hair, not the fact that she was blond....
I never saw Brandi as Cinderella, but I think, aside from the 2015 actress (i think its Lily?), she is the most adorable Cinderella I've ever seen!!!! Why do people care so much?
It's wild too because when it first came out in the 90s when I was a little girl, NOBODY seemed to care! I even remember a cartoon series on HBO family around that era called "Happily Ever fairy Tales for every child!" That revolves around showing urbanized retellings of familiar fairy tales of all races and NOBODY CARED! One of the segments I remembered the most was their Chinese little mermaid,Chinese red riding hood, and Black Princess &The Pauper/Black Steadfast Tin Soldier. Hell in Japan they had a blonde little mermaid in the 70s named Marina but nobody cared. Social media didn't exist for people to openly bitch about it back then. But If they didn't like it, then they'd probably just roll their eyes,flick to another channel,and that would be that. Why can't people still do that now 3 decades later!? It's like the more time progresses the more people want to act like babies over the most pointless things. Yes Disney made them popular to modern audiences, but the characters themselves have been in the public domain with different designs for centuries.
Yeah I’m somebody whose named Tiana before the Princess and the frog came out (I love the fact it represented my name in there) I have a Princess Tiana doll thinking of an idea I wanted to play her as one (well maybe one day I can try although I’m also a real person but a different time period setting) even however I came across videos talking about the same subject and I read people’s comments saying mean stuff about fan casting especially the Snow White one of Rachel Zegler (I used to agree with some of the comments and idk why) I came to your video to know that it was wrong of me believing to agree with the mean comments and so I agree with you more than what I did and I still love representation of WOC in all diversities as I grew to change for the better especially being open minded to conversations like these
Yt people throwing a fit over a fan cast is super ridiculous there are plenty of Rapunzel adaptations so the fake outrage has to stop i think people need to go outside and touch grass and leave avantika alone
I would love Avantika as Rapunzel , and this racist reaction happen before when Alexandra Metz ( An Beautiful Actress Of Color ) played Rapunzel on Once Upon An Time in Season 3 Episode 14 The Tower , cinderella , ariel , snow white , rapunzel can look whatever they want , they're fiction , colorblind casting is okay
Growing up I LOVED Brandy's Cinderella. It was definitely diversity done right and I love Brandy especially since she's the only Black woman from that time who I really saw rock braided hairstyles as opposed to pressing their hair. I also would love to see Rapunzel being played by a Woman of color, we as a whole need more representation in media that is not stereotypical. I hate when white people and non white conservatives cry about these race swaps because the race of these characters have absolutely Nothing to do with the story and white people are not the only ones with long and/or blonde hair. And either way most people don't have hair as long as Rapunzel, so they'd probably use CGI anyway
Im so glad you talked about this. I thought Avantika wouldve been such a good casting and her energy was so fun in mean girls! I hope we can get to a place where people are open minded and excited about new things
I really love Brandy Cinderella (my favourite) and also Halle as Ariel because she gives Arien energy. I really love both of them and I think they are amazing (also I love that they used Brandy in Descendants 🥰). I am so sad when some people hate them just because of their skin color. Halle was amazing Ariel and people hated her and didnt even see how talented she was because of her skin color. Even with Snow White I dont have big problem with Rachel playing her if they make Snows personality kind and caring in the movie but well see (I know she is supposed to be white as snow but in my opinion her personality was more important for her and I am not going to hate on something just because of skin color of actress, I have my doubts about the plot but who knows maybe it wont be that bad). So if Avantika (or any other indian girl) gets the role of Rapunzel I would be okay with it and will look forward to see new Rapunzel 💜. Personally the color of the actress shouldnt be the first thing you notice about her, it should be her talent and definatelly dont write mean things about them. And I am saying this as a white girl who loves Rapunzel (even had her on cake) and would be happy for any talented actress who will play her (if there will ever be live action) And for everyone reading this, you are soop amazing and beautiful 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Nvm how people are being harassed for fan casts of all things, but also like... Cinderella or Rapunzel being black doesn't change anything about the story. I get being upset if they change the race of a character whose initial race is important to the plot (or, obviously, if they're part of an under represented race), but these? The story has nothing to do with that, they can be any race... I mean, we all know why they get so worked up over that, but it's extremely stupid.
The way y'all care and argue about your Disney princesses as adults is very wild and funny to me but my solution for y'all is to seek help from your therapists cause the hate/racism is now becoming a disease please i beg of you but it's a fact THANK YOU😂😂🙏🙏🙏
Why is it racist if people want a white girl to be cast as Rapunzel instead of an Indian girl? Why is it racist if people don't approve of raceswapping in general? Just so you know, a lot of black people don't approve of race swapping white characters to black characters. If you really think about it, Hollywood isn't raceswapping white characters out of the kindness of their hearts or because they're trying to allies in the race issue or because POC actors were "the best person for the role". Hollywood is doing the raceswapping thing as a publicity stunt because it gets them high praise from the media and pats on the back, so to speak. It's another form of clickbait. Futhermore, Hollywood raceswaps white characters to boost their ESG scores, not because they genuinely want to do it. As a female POC don't you feel the least bit insulted that Hollywood is using cheap and lazy gimmicks just to get your hard earned money? Wouldn't you rather see a Indian princess from an Indian fairytale instead of an Indian girl cast as a white European character? I know it's just a rumor but why would you settle for hand-me-downs like a black Ariel or an Indian Rapunzel? Don't you have any self respect?
Nah don’t come into her comments with this,”as a poc, shouldn’t you feel ashamed?” argument to shame a black women into feeling bad for nothing, yall have been doing it for centuries and it’s getting old. Us black women should not have to apologize to you just because you feel uncomfortable and threatened by a woc getting praise.
Funny how whyte ppl in fandoms always quite and use the "its just a character " line when black characters skin tones get lighter like Amanda the Adventurer
@@lilysflower9685 I'm not demanding for any woman to feel ashamed. Nobody should apologize for simply existing. Just so you know, I'm black. I'm kindly suggesting that people like Harriyanna to use their common-sense and not drink the Kool-aid. Wouldn't it feel more of an accomplishment if women of color play diverse characters that were diverse characters in the source material rather than ride on the coattails of white characters? With race swapping it's basically saying that people of color can't stand on their own two feet and always need somebody to spoon feed them or throw them a bone. Consider this: there was a mini-series about Anne Boleyn where Ann Boleyn was played by a black woman despite the fact that Ann Boleyn was white with no evidence of her having any kind of black ancestry. How are black girls supposed to be inspired to be better versions of themselves by watching that mini-series if the real Anne Boleyn wasn't black? Race swapping to me is another form of blackface. It's basically saying that in order for POC to be validated they must live a lie. No POC in their right mind should ever appreciate being an ESG stooge. The truth is race swapping is not being done for the benefit of POC. It's being done to fatten the pockets of studio executives. An Indian Rapunzel is not being done in the name of racial equality or representation. It's being done in the of the ESG farce. Open your eyes!
I swear you seem to always make the nastiest comments known to man about Harri/what she talks about in a video. In the words of Martin Payne, "Get to steppin!" 🤦🏽♀️🙄
The fact that these grown yt women are crying and throwing a fit over a fan cast of Rapunzel but not giving a single f*ck about the genocide in Gaza, speaks volumes
This! Thank you👏🏾!
I always thought that!!
Right. Nor are they concerned about the situations with those tech companies (Apple, Google, etc) and DRC
Can’t the same be said of you? You’re out here crying about not being the center of media that white people create, while you do jack about Gaza. All of you will still buy American products and contribute to this system you endlessly complain about, while doing nothing but consume.
Exactly
The weak and tired "-Tiana should be then." point is so annoying.
I feel like people who bring up that point, were like... 'born yesterday' or some shit. They are really extremely ignorant. Makes me think that they may not even be adults, yet. If they are adults, then it's even worse. tsk.
that whole rebuttal is flawed. the fact that they can only name one black princess to “race swap”vs the numerous white princesses that have always been white in the disney continuity is telling of how white everything has been for centuries.
also there has only been ONE live action casting by disney that has been a different race and it’s literally just halle as ariel 😭 why do those brain dead racists think disney has been doing for ever because they just found out about the word “woke.”
Rights it debunked times and times again on how you can’t use Tiana as an example and yet they still don’t learn 😭
I am so tired. "What if Tiana was-" like shut up 😭. Tiana's race literally is central to her character. Also why would you change the only black princess, and strip away the single representation we have.
These be the same people who don’t watch original stories created by POCs when they say stupid shit like, “CREATE YOUR OWN STORIES” with a fucking fan casts of all things. 😒
Exactly
invalid argument that makes no sense. If you are creating you own stories, then WHY are you blackwashing white ones??
And it was about a rumor on a Rapunzel live action movie. I just… lord.
These grown women really got nothing better to do than bitch over fictional characters. It's sad. And I bet they've never even picked up a book containing older iterations of the characters pre-disney either.
@@sissysovereign1294 exactly! When I rant about fictional characters, I do it in Discord or with social media friends, away from the actress. That's called manners.
Y'all, people are so freaking weird. Brandy's Cinderella movie is one of my comfort movies, and she and the prince are the only reason I will be watching Descendants 4. Well, that and Uma is returning, and Dara Renee is in it. But like, when I heard that Brandy and Paolo were cast, I just assumed Chad was adopted. It's not that hard. My only confusion was how people as great as them created someone like *that*. Even if Chad is erased as a character, it doesn't matter, a bunch of the main cast isn't coming back for the forth movie, so there's no point in throwing a fit over Chad.
That lol or maybe even Paolo's dad genes kicked in. 🤣 Easy quick fix.😂
TBF, Cinderella, and Prince Charming technically did appear in Descendants 1 and 2, and the extras they had for them were clearly white. Chad's parents were clearly the 1950s version of Cinderella and Prince Charming, not the 90s version. Unless both versions somehow exist in the same universe, I don't see how any of this is supposed to make sense.
The way people get so butt hurt over these fictional characters, fan castings and pretend they're a die hard fan of these disney princesses like really? All of a sudden, the rapunzel and snow white fan club emerged out of nowhere. The way they're treating Avantika and Rachel Zegler is so absurd and hella weird. Just say you're racist and/or find it hard to see yourself as a character that's not white.
Exactly and Rachel’s White herself. Sure, she’s Latina but she’s White. They just do not like her or they mention how “olive” her complexion is🤦🏾♂️…
invalid argument. if anything its the black and brown people that are racist for wanting to blackwash out of spite. as its done out of a racial hatred against white people.
POC are the first to cry whenever their race isnt "represented", even if its characters that arent theirs. so you are projecting badly. normalize realizing that its the black and brown people that are racist for wanting to appropriate characters that arent theirs.
i also saw ppl being colorist like crazy. the "keep rapunzel white" crowd kept bringing up her blonde hair as a defense, and when people brought up hair dye, wigs, and extensions, they were so quick with the "yeah but it wouldn't suit her/she won't look good" 🤨 and why is that? why do you think she won't look good with blonde hair? ugh i hate it here
Also it’s hilarious because they’re conveniently forgetting that a) Rapunzel is a natural brunette anyway, not blonde and b) ANY actress would need a wig, no one has hair that long
@violetlavi2207 EXACTLY, these people refuse to think
Right. They did the same thing when Nico Parker was cast to play Astrid in How to Train your Dragon. Like so what she's a 1/4 black? It's really not that deep....
Tbf I would like her to keep her dark hair for the role if she ever does play it, I actually do think she would look better with black hair and Rapunzel is the embodiment of hegemonic generic white femininity, casting a dark-skinned brown woman and the LETTING HER rock her natural dark features(such as hair) would help subvert the popular societal message that blonde hair and thus whiteness is the standard of beauty. Plus it would actually be a pretty big "fuck you" to the people who are upset that she's not white, by not forcing her to be adjacent to whiteness. It is for this reason that I am glad that they didn't make Annabeth Chase white when they casted a Black girl, Leah Sava Jeffries, to play her. They allowed her to be unapologetically Black and didn't try to dilute her features with typically "white" traits such as blonde hair. Because it's about the actress' talent, not how they look. I'm fine with Halle Bailey's Ariel still being a redhead, though, since red hair is further from the standard of beauty than blonde hair is, Ariel's hair being red has a very good reason behind it, and you're more likely to meet a Black natural redhead than a Black natural blonde.
so many of the white blonde actresses people are saying should be casted instead of avantika aren’t even german and aren’t natural blondes
These people are a joke. Literally👽
nor have they questioned their acting skills
EXACTLY LMAO
@@shel4516exactly
invalid argument. using your own logic, then it makes no sense to make Rapunzel brown. yall just want justify you blackwashing to appropriate white culture because black and brown people are fervent racists full of hatred. Yall just use codewords and dog whistles like "diversity" and "inclusion" to cover it up.
I’m saying…. When did y’all care about rapunzel’s storyline so much
Surprisingly Tangled does have a fandom especially after the TV series happened. They're always fighting with Frozen fans online.
I always did tbh. Rapunzel, Tiana and Mulan are my favourite three Disney princesses and their princes are my favourite three Disney princes. It's been that way since I was little and I still watch their movies today.
Right! It also annoys me that people were upset over HER playing Belle because she's Black and Filipino, but eat up Emma Watson who talent wise, was not right for the role because she can't even sing, and a lot of people were mad when she got the role at first because of that, but now they stan her as Belle just because they don't like HER playing Belle. Not to mention, when HER was cast they said Belle had to be played by a French woman, but Emma Watson is British.....
They don't.
RIGHT 👀
The thing that bothers me about these conversations is that all it takes is the perception of white people feeling like marginalized people are getting some kind of agency, education, or even comfort on a larger scale platform like published Television to see it as a threat on their hold over power. That's really the driver for these kind of angry reactions and accusations of "Blackwashing" every time these conversations come up.
Never mind the overwhelming evidence like the data from the McKinsey and Company study showing the massive racial disparities in Hollywood, both in front of and behind the camera showing it's an overwhelmingly white, male wealthy industry especially at the director's level. Never mind that Black off-screen talent is primarily responsible for creating opportunities for other Black off-screen talent.
It WILL keep happening again. Miles Morales, Ariel, April O'Neil, it keeps happening over and over again. It's all about the perceived threat on power from racial minorities "taking over."
"I'm not racist, I just want to see originally Black/South Asian/Whatever" is basically the evolution of the "forced diversity" talking point.
"Tiana can be white, what if they whitewashed her?"
They already did do Tiana dirty in her own movie. They lightened and had to reanimate her in Wreck it Ralph 2. I love Tiana, but Princess and the Frog is already a whitewashed take on 1920s New Orleans, a sanitizied of Misogynoir toward a real Black woman, and the white Hollywood vilified portrayal of African religion. It's so frustrating because most of the Black movies they keep throwing in our face are already deeply flawed or still support white supremacy in many ways even if Black people still like them or support them.
Black Panther is one of the most blatantly imperialist stories to come out in how it frames its conflict.
People were so wildly colorist, misogynistic, and fatphobic toward the concept of April O'Neil being fat and dark-skinned in Mutant Mayhem when she's one of the best parts of the movie. The movie itself has the most anti-Black narrative in how the entire movie is built around the Black brute caricature in how Superfly is portrayed as violent and angry with the motivating factor of fighting against a violent, prejudiced society. The movie is a scarily accurate recreation of the model minority myth in how it utilizes an Asian father (who himself is racist caricature) is portrayed as more sympathetic for thinking himself "prejudiced" for disliking people for...literally almost killing his children out of their prejudiced violence?
The Proud Family was repeatedly decried as "woke" despite it repeatedly mishandling and misrepresenting the very topics it continually brings up at almost every single corner.
So this idea that racial minorities are taking over represents the white anxieties to the threat over power of access to be able to publish media on a wide-scale to a large audience. According to the McKinsey study of 2021, the Racial and gender mix for C-suite executives is 92% white and 80% male and they know it's a predominantly wealthy white industry in power.
But they'll stay being racist toward South Asians and only see them as worth looking at when it's the most blatantly Orientalist portrayal of Asian people imaginable and get upset when they talk about their grievances with the portrayal. They'll stay being Anti-Black unless the movie is basically a minstrel show that supports their views and whims. They're not just angry at racial minorities existing, but specifically take issue with anything that seemingly does not specifically center a white gaze of how a non-white person is perceived.
Wow your comment was so insightful, I love tmnt mutant mayhem and looking back on it, there are some problematic aspects to it sadly:( I agree, I’ve always thought that the reason white people get so angry when we’re pushed to the front is because they’re afraid of some minority takeover or something. Like, they’ve been so afraid of us gaining more recourses and power that they fear that we’ll treat them just as badly as they’ve treated us? It’s honestly scary that they know what they’re doing is bad but they continue to spread bigotry like it’s nothing. Like, I feel they complain about us getting rep cause they know it’s gonna challenge their already racist viewpoints on poc. But wow, you articulated everything so perfectly
Spitting nothing but facts
So much invalid blacksplained nonsense.
Invalid logic and framing all around.
Black people truly do not know how to think or argue.
The crazy thing about this whole thing is that Rapunzel casting isn't even official, they are raging over a fancast.
Fr, that’s how racists they are
Imagine how these people would act if they found out about Blacktober 🙄🙄🙄
Just to break the “but I grew up with that character” argument down more: Ariel was my favorite character growing up and i saw a lot of myself in her and she still means a lot to me. When it was announced Halle Bailey was playing her in the live action, I saw it as now young Black girls could grow up and see themselves in the same character I did. But it was especially for them, and you know what, I’m completely ok with that. I got more adult matters to worry about. Same with a south Asian Rapunzel. I actually think like a Bollywood inspired remake of Rapunzel could be a lot of fun.
One of the biggest aspects of the Brandi Cinderella movie WAS the colorblind casting. They could keep the white boy if they wanted and it would still be true to the originating universe. (Or did people actually think a white king and a black queen would pop out an Asian baby?!? That's not how genetics work folks.. )
Brandi's Cinderella is a childhood favorite and I'm so glad she gets to reprise her role.
I loooooved the Brandi Cinderella back in the 90s. I watched it as a kid and I'm still mad that the soundtrack is not readily available to buy. I had to rip the audio of the film to listen to it on my MP3 player back in the day. I bought it on DVD during lockdown and made all of my friends watch it.
Excellent video as always 💜
Honestly, that beautiful girl Avantika, was one of my favorite characters of the Mean Girls 2 movie. She was perfect, in a very cute and ditzy way. And hold up!? Brandy is returning as Cinderella!? I'm so gonna watch that then! I have never seen Descendants, but to see Brandy, I'd go watch it!
It’s not Mean Girls 2, It’s Mean Girls 2024 or Mean Girls the Musical. Js wanted to let u know cus mean girls 2 came out it 2011 and is like a Disney channel horrible version of mean girls but with swearing
I can’t with the internet constantly tearing down young women and ruining their image for no reason. Halle Bailey, Rachel Ziegler, Avantika, the list goes on.
I’m white but I’ve noticed it always tends to affect women of color the most, it just screams casual racism.
Thank you, Harriyanna for being an Ally to darkskin South Asian artists like myself. 📣 👏 LEAH 👏 CHASE 👏 and Brandy Cinderella foreverrrrrrrrrr in the kingdom of Blasia
speaking of hair, i remember when i heard someone say that baljeet was part black because of his curly hair. ppl genuinely dont realize that curly hair is actually very common amongst south asians and that they dont all have bone straight hair.
The outrage is not justified. There are bigger issues going on and people are arguing about this? Where is the outrage when a White person portrays a Black or POC character? These fandoms… Thank you for making this video, Harriyanna⭐️🫡 !
“Where is the outrage when a white person portrays a black or pic character?” Then they say it’s “not that deep” or use the few instances of POC and black people playing white characters as a reason as to why race swapping is ok. Of course being obtuse to the difference between POC/black representation and erasure.
Tangled and the TV series has always had a fanbase, they stay beefing with the Frozen girlies.
Can't say the same for Cinderella.
They literally cousins, so I find that funny.
@@candicoated2001 Them being cousins is a popular headcanon, but it's never actually been confirmed as canon.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 meant the fandoms
@@candicoated2001 oh ok 👍🏾
I like that rapunzels hair color matched the flower but its not really that serious
they act like they didnt do halle’s hair for the character. disney did it once, and they can do it again 💀 the hair is magical + the character is not a natural blonde sooo i think it makes sense if the actor isnt a natural blonde either. but honestly they should just give it to someone with the best acting and singing abilities! hair (and skin color, since thats what they ACTUALLY care about) shouldnt be the end all be all for why someone should be casted
@@sleepy.timaeus.arts. exactly, especially since there's no real reason for her hair to be blonde. It just has to do what its supposed to do
The original story didn't even have the godamm flower lol
Disney only put that so they could make Rapunzel more interesting
@@luizacomzSemAcento i didn't know that but either way the hair literally doesn't have to be blonde
I'm gonna start recasting disney fans at this point. It's ridiculous. Just for this, Aurora gonna be black today
LETS GOO. Imma make belle black too
I loved Brandi as Cinderella and that movie is a comfort movie. I loved retelling stories as a kid too. I remember there being i believe a Cinderella with koi slippers.
Good reminder that white women also participate and are complicit in racism but it’s often looked at as closely than when white men do it.
Preach.
It was sooo absurd to see people thinking Karen Shetty was unrealistic for being a popular brown girl when I went to school in an ethnically diverse county. I remember a very pretty girl in my 9th grade gym period (so pretty that another girl gave her the _very_ backhanded compliment of "you're too pretty to be in the STEM magnet program," as she was in the STEM magnet program), and she was relatively popular: she hung out with other popular kids and did popular kid things like running for student council.
Actually, a significant portion of the popular kids were socially adept (but with varying levels of niceness...) Asian and wasian kids who got elected for student council and did sports. Like, RIP to y'all for growing up in a monoracial area, but I'm different.
I’m so glad that you have made a video on this because I have also been pissed off! Avantika had to deal with a lot when she was Karen in the recent mean girls movie musical and now she has to deal WITH THIS NONSENSE!!! People need to know it’s not that serious because people have also been making a big deal out of the recent casting of Juliet in the West end production of Romeo and Juliet in the UK when in reality, WHEN DID PEOPLE START CARING ABOUT ROMEO AND JULIET BECAUSE IF YOU ASK THE AVERAGE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT ON THE MOST OVER-TAUGHT ASSIGNED READING THEY WILL PROBABLY SAY ROMEO AND JULIET!!! The backlash got so bad that not only did the theater issue a statement on their account but they had to turn the comments off. There are also people who seemed to be okay with fan casting Gal gadot as Esmeralda when Esmeralda is of Romani descent and it’s tiring. The only thing they need to cry over are the social issues going on in the world like what’s happening in Palestine, Congo, and Sudan.
European features of beauty like blonde hair and blue eyes been portrayed in every movie,TV show,etc for the longest time. They also draw black hairstyles on non black characters in fan arts
Dude I hate it when people get harrassed over fan casting/headcanoning. It's so unfair, and stupid.
Edit: Also your Tiana is so pretty!
EXACTLY. especially on the headcanons part but that’s for another time.
"We care about accuracy!" Then why didn't you express outrage over the little mermaid LA featuring little to no Danish actors?😛
I get where you’re coming from but, Disney’s little mermaid doesn’t take place in Denmark. It takes place in Italy, I saw it in a random Disney facts clip. People are more focused on Ariel being ginger than anything else, they want everything accurate to the Disney film not the original source material.
Right. They also defended Nani's casting so they don't actually care about representation as long as they are still represented
@@lreneewell9154 to me i don’t think i can have a say in Nani’s casting because I’m not Hawaiian. Funny enough I seen some Hawaiian RUclipsrs defend the casting. And to me as long as they’re happy it’s what matters. Personally I’m just tired of live actions but 🤷♀️
@@moondivine2288 thats fair. though ive seen the same defending over nani's casting, i also have seen a lot of outrage considering how nani being a native hawaiian affects her, and how having someone who is just hawaiian nationally rather than ethnically is disrespectful to the many native hawaiian actresses out there.
more often than not, i think people have an issue with representation in media when their background matters to the story. the reason tiana could never be white in a live-action of the princess and the frog (despite what many like to say) is because her being a black women in 1920s america does in fact matter to her story. the reason ariel could be black in the live-action is because the story being danish in origin does not affect the story in a major way.
Can we talk about the fact that there are so many white Disney princesses and 0 Indian Disney princesses
The thing about Chad having fans now is crazy. It's like they didn't even see the movie.
cinderella and rapunzel are two of my favorite princesses, and i one hundred percent support these actresses! people need to chill, rapunzel's important trait was having very long hair, not the fact that she was blond....
Great more racisim over casting chocies. Just let these woman play the character. You still have the animated version.
I never saw Brandi as Cinderella, but I think, aside from the 2015 actress (i think its Lily?), she is the most adorable Cinderella I've ever seen!!!! Why do people care so much?
It's wild too because when it first came out in the 90s when I was a little girl, NOBODY seemed to care! I even remember a cartoon series on HBO family around that era called "Happily Ever fairy Tales for every child!" That revolves around showing urbanized retellings of familiar fairy tales of all races and NOBODY CARED!
One of the segments I remembered the most was their Chinese little mermaid,Chinese red riding hood, and Black Princess &The Pauper/Black Steadfast Tin Soldier. Hell in Japan they had a blonde little mermaid in the 70s named Marina but nobody cared.
Social media didn't exist for people to openly bitch about it back then. But If they didn't like it, then they'd probably just roll their eyes,flick to another channel,and that would be that. Why can't people still do that now 3 decades later!? It's like the more time progresses the more people want to act like babies over the most pointless things. Yes Disney made them popular to modern audiences, but the characters themselves have been in the public domain with different designs for centuries.
Yeah I’m somebody whose named Tiana before the Princess and the frog came out (I love the fact it represented my name in there) I have a Princess Tiana doll thinking of an idea I wanted to play her as one (well maybe one day I can try although I’m also a real person but a different time period setting) even however I came across videos talking about the same subject and I read people’s comments saying mean stuff about fan casting especially the Snow White one of Rachel Zegler (I used to agree with some of the comments and idk why) I came to your video to know that it was wrong of me believing to agree with the mean comments and so I agree with you more than what I did and I still love representation of WOC in all diversities as I grew to change for the better especially being open minded to conversations like these
Yt people throwing a fit over a fan cast is super ridiculous there are plenty of Rapunzel adaptations so the fake outrage has to stop i think people need to go outside and touch grass and leave avantika alone
I would love Avantika as Rapunzel , and this racist reaction happen before when Alexandra Metz ( An Beautiful Actress Of Color ) played Rapunzel on Once Upon An Time in Season 3 Episode 14 The Tower , cinderella , ariel , snow white , rapunzel can look whatever they want , they're fiction , colorblind casting is okay
Growing up I LOVED Brandy's Cinderella. It was definitely diversity done right and I love Brandy especially since she's the only Black woman from that time who I really saw rock braided hairstyles as opposed to pressing their hair. I also would love to see Rapunzel being played by a Woman of color, we as a whole need more representation in media that is not stereotypical. I hate when white people and non white conservatives cry about these race swaps because the race of these characters have absolutely Nothing to do with the story and white people are not the only ones with long and/or blonde hair. And either way most people don't have hair as long as Rapunzel, so they'd probably use CGI anyway
They literally believed jada smith was gonna play her and then this again
Im so glad you talked about this. I thought Avantika wouldve been such a good casting and her energy was so fun in mean girls! I hope we can get to a place where people are open minded and excited about new things
I really love Brandy Cinderella (my favourite) and also Halle as Ariel because she gives Arien energy. I really love both of them and I think they are amazing (also I love that they used Brandy in Descendants 🥰). I am so sad when some people hate them just because of their skin color. Halle was amazing Ariel and people hated her and didnt even see how talented she was because of her skin color. Even with Snow White I dont have big problem with Rachel playing her if they make Snows personality kind and caring in the movie but well see (I know she is supposed to be white as snow but in my opinion her personality was more important for her and I am not going to hate on something just because of skin color of actress, I have my doubts about the plot but who knows maybe it wont be that bad). So if Avantika (or any other indian girl) gets the role of Rapunzel I would be okay with it and will look forward to see new Rapunzel 💜. Personally the color of the actress shouldnt be the first thing you notice about her, it should be her talent and definatelly dont write mean things about them. And I am saying this as a white girl who loves Rapunzel (even had her on cake) and would be happy for any talented actress who will play her (if there will ever be live action)
And for everyone reading this, you are soop amazing and beautiful 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
I honestly don’t care what she looks like I just want to feel the same way I did when I watch tangled. Like I did with the live action little mermaid.
Nvm how people are being harassed for fan casts of all things, but also like... Cinderella or Rapunzel being black doesn't change anything about the story. I get being upset if they change the race of a character whose initial race is important to the plot (or, obviously, if they're part of an under represented race), but these? The story has nothing to do with that, they can be any race... I mean, we all know why they get so worked up over that, but it's extremely stupid.
This again…🙃
I thought it was real too bc of their reaction. Crying over a fan cast is crazy
I am Team Maitreyi for Rapunzel to be honest.
Avantika was Karen❤
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The way y'all care and argue about your Disney princesses as adults is very wild and funny to me but my solution for y'all is to seek help from your therapists cause the hate/racism is now becoming a disease please i beg of you but it's a fact THANK YOU😂😂🙏🙏🙏
Why is it racist if people want a white girl to be cast as Rapunzel instead of an Indian girl? Why is it racist if people don't approve of raceswapping in general? Just so you know, a lot of black people don't approve of race swapping white characters to black characters. If you really think about it, Hollywood isn't raceswapping white characters out of the kindness of their hearts or because they're trying to allies in the race issue or because POC actors were "the best person for the role". Hollywood is doing the raceswapping thing as a publicity stunt because it gets them high praise from the media and pats on the back, so to speak. It's another form of clickbait. Futhermore, Hollywood raceswaps white characters to boost their ESG scores, not because they genuinely want to do it.
As a female POC don't you feel the least bit insulted that Hollywood is using cheap and lazy gimmicks just to get your hard earned money? Wouldn't you rather see a Indian princess from an Indian fairytale instead of an Indian girl cast as a white European character? I know it's just a rumor but why would you settle for hand-me-downs like a black Ariel or an Indian Rapunzel? Don't you have any self respect?
congratulations! you missed the whole point of this video!
Nah don’t come into her comments with this,”as a poc, shouldn’t you feel ashamed?” argument to shame a black women into feeling bad for nothing, yall have been doing it for centuries and it’s getting old. Us black women should not have to apologize to you just because you feel uncomfortable and threatened by a woc getting praise.
Funny how whyte ppl in fandoms always quite and use the "its just a character " line when black characters skin tones get lighter like Amanda the Adventurer
@@lilysflower9685 I'm not demanding for any woman to feel ashamed. Nobody should apologize for simply existing. Just so you know, I'm black. I'm kindly suggesting that people like Harriyanna to use their common-sense and not drink the Kool-aid. Wouldn't it feel more of an accomplishment if women of color play diverse characters that were diverse characters in the source material rather than ride on the coattails of white characters? With race swapping it's basically saying that people of color can't stand on their own two feet and always need somebody to spoon feed them or throw them a bone. Consider this: there was a mini-series about Anne Boleyn where Ann Boleyn was played by a black woman despite the fact that Ann Boleyn was white with no evidence of her having any kind of black ancestry. How are black girls supposed to be inspired to be better versions of themselves by watching that mini-series if the real Anne Boleyn wasn't black?
Race swapping to me is another form of blackface. It's basically saying that in order for POC to be validated they must live a lie. No POC in their right mind should ever appreciate being an ESG stooge. The truth is race swapping is not being done for the benefit of POC. It's being done to fatten the pockets of studio executives. An Indian Rapunzel is not being done in the name of racial equality or representation. It's being done in the of the ESG farce. Open your eyes!
I swear you seem to always make the nastiest comments known to man about Harri/what she talks about in a video. In the words of Martin Payne, "Get to steppin!" 🤦🏽♀️🙄