German vs Other Germanic Languages

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @BahadorAlast
    @BahadorAlast  4 месяца назад +6

    In this video, we take a look at how well non-native German speakers whose mother tongue is a non-Germanic language can understand other Germanic languages. Please contact me on Instagram if you have any suggestions or if you would like to participate in a future video: instagram.com/bahadoralast/

    • @TariqOmer-y5j
      @TariqOmer-y5j 4 месяца назад

      Bahador can you do Somali and Gujarati similarities

  • @shevchyc
    @shevchyc 4 месяца назад +18

    Thank you for having us, Bahador! :)

    • @BahadorAlast
      @BahadorAlast  4 месяца назад +7

      My pleasure! Thank you for being a part of it!

  • @erezlipelis
    @erezlipelis 4 месяца назад +11

    I would like to add a couple of notes regarding the second Yiddish sentence:
    Levuneh - The moon. In modern Hebrew the moon is called Levana which literally means “white” in modern Hebrew, while in Arabic LBN لبن root is associated with milk and diary products (Which are white).
    Erd- Which means land or ground is the same in Arabic (Ard ارض) and Hebrew (E-rrets ארץ) and Aramaic (Arr’a)

    • @SchmulKrieger
      @SchmulKrieger 4 месяца назад +2

      It's also the same in German, Erde means ground, earth, land, etc.

    • @pierreabbat6157
      @pierreabbat6157 4 месяца назад +4

      @@SchmulKrieger Erde and ارض are not cognates, they just sound like them. They're false cognates. Arabic ارض, Hebrew ארץ, and Aramaic ארעא/ארקא are cognates. When an Aramaic word is spelled both ways, with ע and with ק, which I suspect represent /ɢ/, it's very likely that a Hebrew cognate has צ and an Arabic cognate has ض.

    • @SchmulKrieger
      @SchmulKrieger 4 месяца назад +2

      @@pierreabbat6157 I just was referring to the meaning, not that they were cognates.

    • @erezlipelis
      @erezlipelis 4 месяца назад

      @@pierreabbat6157 You are wrong. I suggest that you refer to the following article which discusses the phenomenon that you just dismissed
      Frederick E. Greenspahn, An Introduction to Aramaic, Second Edition, Society of Biblical Literature pages 13-15.
      I’m providing some examples:
      קיימת תופעה של חילוף אותיות בין עברית ובין ארמית[2]: עברית שלוש = ארמית תלת (משם המילים תלת-ממד, תלת-אופן), עברית זהב = ארמית דהב, עברית זו = ארמית דא (משם המילה הדדי), עברית קיץ = ארמית קיט (משם קייטנה), עברית רוּץ = ארמית רהט (משם שפה רהוטה), עברית שמונה = ארמית תמנה (משם תמנון, מתומן), עברית שני = תניין (משם המילה תנייני).
      השתלשלות האותיות מפרוטו-שמית מסבירה את תופעה זו: 4 עיצורים בפרוטו-שמית השתלשלו לאותיות שונות בעברית ובארמית (למשל ṯ = ת֗ הפך לשׁ בעברית אבל ת בארמית, משם פרוטו-שמית ṯalāṯ ← שָׁלוֹשׁ בעברית, אבל ← תְּלָת בארמית). דוגמאות:
      עברית שׁ ↔ ארמית ת: עברית שלוש↔ארמית תלת[3], שמונה↔תמנה, שֵׁנִי↔תניין[4], חדש↔חדת[5], שקל↔תקל[6] (משם הכתובת על הקיר מנא מנא תקל ופרסין[7]).
      עברית ז ↔ ארמית ד: עברית זהב↔ארמית דהב[8], זבח↔דבח[9], זרוע↔דרע[10], זו↔דא[11], זכר\זכרון↔דכר[12]\דכרון[13].
      עברית צ ↔ ארמית ע: עברית ארץ↔ארמית ארע[14], צאן↔עאן[15], צלע↔עלע[16].
      עברית צ ↔ ארמית ט. דוגמאות: עברית קיץ↔ארמית קיט[17], ציפורניים↔טופרנא[18], צל↔טלל[19], צבי↔טביא[20]

    • @exampleemail848
      @exampleemail848 4 месяца назад

      ​@@pierreabbat6157
      It came from Arabic to Germanic languages as "Eardh". In German it became ärd and then erd, in English it became earth and today is pronounced something like "urth"

  • @antonwiiala221
    @antonwiiala221 4 месяца назад +5

    "As a native Swede, I can easily understand the meaning of many Scandinavian words that might sound distant to non-natives. They’re often relatively close, and mutually intelligible IF you’re fluent enough in either. I suspects it's true for other Germanic languages too (Dutch/German etc.)
    Here’s a few examples:
    “Morgenmad” in Danish literally means, and sounds exactly like, “morgonmat” (morning food = breakfast). This isn't a word in Swedish, but we get the gist of it.
    “Lufthavn” in Danish is surprisingly close to “flygplats”. Danes describe airports as “sky harbors” or “air ports” while Swedes describe it as “flying place”. Both nationalities can probably guess the meaning with little effort. All four components are mutually intelligible and used in other air traffic-related words like "flyve/flyga" (to fly) and "flyvemaskine/flygplan" (aircraft) Only real difference is that, for a Swede, "luft" means "air" like the one you breathe, and "havn" (hamn in Swedish) is usually reserved for seaside ports.
    “Hovedbanegård” can be deduced if you know German (hauptbahnhof = central railway station). The Swedish word (centralstation) is closer to English, but all three words in the compound are perfectly intelligible to a Swede (huvud, bana, gård). It just takes a bit of creative thinking or exposure to German to get what they're talking about. It's almost a literal translation of haupt (hoved/huvud) bahn (bane/bana)) and hof (gård).
    “Fabrikk” in Norwegian is just a different spelling of “fabrik” (factory). While “fabric” is a false friend for English-speakers, it’s definitely not for Swedes. The word has no other meaning. You get it straight away.
    “Tallrik” is just a different spelling of “talrik”. This is a compound word, not to be confused with “tallrik”, that exists in both languages. “Tall (number) + rik (rich)” in Norwegian versus “tal (number) + rik (rich)” in Swedish.
    Once your aware of the differences between our languages you kind of expect that Norwegians spell things funnily while Danes are a bit more influenced by German.

    • @ramamonato5039
      @ramamonato5039 4 месяца назад +1

      Indonesians understand "fabrik" and "apotek". We use these words to say "a place where something is produced" and "a place where medicine is sold" respectively.

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 4 месяца назад +2

      We also use _morgonmål_ in Swedish, very close to Danish _morgenmad._ And just 50 years ago, we still said _frukost_ about the food we eat in the middle of the day ca 11:30-12:30 (instead of the american "lunch" most commonly used today). The English "fabric" for fine woven "clothing sheets" is because the latter are manufactured in a _fabrik_ in the Scandinavian sense, hence the similarity. So that false friend is just semantic gliding.

  • @SchmulKrieger
    @SchmulKrieger 4 месяца назад +5

    Tunisian woman is cute.
    The second Swedish sentence was bloody easy to understand for as native German speaker when written even more.

  • @LiorSultanov
    @LiorSultanov 4 месяца назад +5

    In German we have "Sprechfertigkeiten" which is closer to språkfärdigheter

    • @arvidsfar1580
      @arvidsfar1580 19 дней назад +1

      That sounds very awkward to me (German). I would rather say "Sprachkenntnisse".

  • @NummerVier4
    @NummerVier4 4 месяца назад +3

    Really interesting video, It would be cool if you ever do one about the different "slang-languages" in the big cities across southamerica

  • @user-zh7yr1up8g
    @user-zh7yr1up8g 4 месяца назад +2

    Well done guys. I learned Dutch as my 4th language and I found German was very easy to learn after that. Aside from English, I didn't know any Germanic languages, but I don't think English helped me that much in learning Dutch or German. I can say upon hearing Yiddish that it's easier to understand than any other Germanic language I have heard. The most difficult being Icelandic imo

  • @markomiljkovic1137
    @markomiljkovic1137 4 месяца назад +6

    What's interesting that I have been learning German for a few years now and it helps me with Dutch and Afrikaans which are very close, but I don't find too much of a strong connection with Nordic languages. I have not heard Yiddish much anywhere but I think I can pick up more from Yiddish than Scandinavian languages.

    • @SchmulKrieger
      @SchmulKrieger 4 месяца назад

      A lot of words got shortened from Proto- to Old-Norse. Proto-Norse is considered merely now a dialect of West Germanic.

    • @jonarthritiskwanhc
      @jonarthritiskwanhc 4 месяца назад

      Nordic languages are more conservative. They have kept plenty of Proto-Germanic languages that have not been preserved in West Germanic languages, and they sometimes also share some interesting similarities with the Gothic language

    • @SchmulKrieger
      @SchmulKrieger 4 месяца назад

      @@jonarthritiskwanhc for example?

    • @ramamonato5039
      @ramamonato5039 4 месяца назад

      @markomiljokovic1137 Wow! If it is so, I think you understand Willeke Alberti's song "De Winter Was Lang". Take this line:
      "De winter was lang zonder jouw liefde. De winter was koud zonder jouw lach."
      Can you guess the meaning?

    • @ramamonato5039
      @ramamonato5039 4 месяца назад

      ​@@jonarthritiskwanhcOh I know. The most famous example would be "Thor's day". In English, we say it "Thursday". In Swedish, Norwegian and Danish, they say "torsdag". That word "Thor" is the key. Am I right?

  • @samspear8772
    @samspear8772 4 месяца назад +7

    If you included Dutch it would have been easier for them.

    • @shevchyc
      @shevchyc 4 месяца назад +2

      That's true, but I meant to Bahador, that I learn some Dutch and that this would be cheating for me to include Dutch in the video 😅

    • @ramamonato5039
      @ramamonato5039 4 месяца назад +1

      English-speaking people do not need to learn Dutch so hard. The first line of Heintje's song must be very easy for many people:
      "De storm is over, weg is nu de regen..."

  • @Bob94390
    @Bob94390 4 месяца назад +1

    21:00 In the word "nødvendigheten", the stress should be on the second syllable, not the first. Further, the "g" is silent.

    • @beorlingo
      @beorlingo 4 месяца назад

      Thank you, that was my guess! (Svensk)

  • @andrew_be1379
    @andrew_be1379 4 месяца назад +3

    Yiddish is a West Germanic language I guess. So that's how it's closer to German and even German sounding.

    • @SchmulKrieger
      @SchmulKrieger 4 месяца назад +3

      Yiddish is in fact MiddleHigh German of the Middle German region. That's why it sounds German, because it is.

  • @AHmastalb-xp5fq
    @AHmastalb-xp5fq 2 месяца назад +2

    12:25 this is not true, levana was used in ancient Hebrew, though less frequently, to refer to the moon. Isaiah 30:26 for example.

  • @ekmalsukarno2302
    @ekmalsukarno2302 4 месяца назад +2

    Hi Bahador Alast, can you please make a video titled 'Can Malay speakers understand Javanese?'. Thank you very much.

    • @faizullah6671
      @faizullah6671 4 месяца назад +1

      What about Javanese with Bengali?

    • @ramamonato5039
      @ramamonato5039 4 месяца назад

      In Malaysia, Brunei and Singapore, Malay is the national language and they made the standard form. In Indonesia, here we have Malay, too. However, it is considered to be a group of local dialects. Here, Standard Indonesian is our national language. Actually, Standard Indonesian was Malay which was given a different name in order to make many people happy and satisfied. Then, it gradually became different from Malay. Javanese is a dialect in Indonesia. It failed to be our national language since it was very difficult with its letters like Thai and it has three social dialects and many geographical dialects.

  • @pierreabbat6157
    @pierreabbat6157 4 месяца назад +1

    I recognized "våg" from French "vague".

  • @hassanalast6670
    @hassanalast6670 4 месяца назад

    Good to know Non-Native German Speakers

  • @hrvatska8786
    @hrvatska8786 День назад

    Scandinavic languages blow my mind as a native German speaker. Slavic languages are so much more similar to each other…

  • @meestanaef1109
    @meestanaef1109 4 месяца назад +1

    The colour of the waves? 🤔

  • @MrAllmightyCornholioz
    @MrAllmightyCornholioz 4 месяца назад +3

    WODEN BLESS 🇩🇪 🇳🇴 🇸🇪
    YHWH BLESS 🇮🇱

  • @Bob94390
    @Bob94390 4 месяца назад +2

    7:30 "Farg" is not a Norwegian word. It should be "farge".

  • @Vitamins152
    @Vitamins152 4 месяца назад

    Please do Arabic and Punjabi next.

  • @faizullah6671
    @faizullah6671 4 месяца назад +1

    Could you please kindly organize Bengali with Sinhalese

  • @ИсламРамазанов-ч6ч
    @ИсламРамазанов-ч6ч 4 месяца назад +1

    Bro. Please compare the two peoples. The Lak Caucasian people and the Iranian Lak people. It seems to me that these are our people who have been on the territory of Iran for a very long time. I am a native of the Caucasus. I would like to check if the Iranian Laks still have something of our language.

  • @Sheepheadz
    @Sheepheadz Месяц назад

    modern german has nothing to do with any actual germanic languages