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Diabolical Diagnosis - Hemi Ram Stuck at 1500 RPM with P2128 and P2138

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  • Опубликовано: 15 апр 2022
  • This 2011 Ram 2500 with a 5.7 Hemi intermittently goes into a limp mode where it sticks at 1500 RPM until you cycle the key. It has codes P2128 and P2138 for APP2 voltage correlation and APP2 circuit high.
    Thanks to ‪@L1Training‬ and ‪@SouthMainAuto‬
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  • @WatchWesWork
    @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +426

    Sorry guys, our donkey powered internet has been on the short bus to Struggle Town. Hopefully it uploaded correctly...

    • @jamessimmons5066
      @jamessimmons5066 2 года назад +10

      Hahaha 😆

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 2 года назад +19

      Is Starlink available in your location? Steve Summers ran a stream on his Starlink connection a couple of week back and that is something that was just impossible with his previous internet provider. It's just a thought.
      *Thank You* for the videos Wes. They really are greatly appreciated due to the time taken to make then to edit them and especially the inevitable _Wesisms_ of humour (knowledge?) dispensed along the way. 👍

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 2 года назад +8

      Alright, who put the struggle bus on the Wi-Fi route?

    • @williambrown319
      @williambrown319 2 года назад +14

      Wait you're working with donkey power? Where do I get such luxury

    • @eliotheasman5378
      @eliotheasman5378 2 года назад +3

      Not to worry

  • @BY504A
    @BY504A 2 года назад +320

    $500 for a true diagnosis and permanent fix of an intermittent problem sounds like a steal to me. Great job tracking down the issue.

    • @RubenKelevra
      @RubenKelevra 2 года назад +17

      I think Wes just underestimates the value of his work. I mean, if the customer isn't happy, he will just not return. But I doubt that's a problem by the quality of work he's doing. (just look at his parking lot) 😬

    • @alanprather8399
      @alanprather8399 2 года назад +16

      most shops would have just replaced computer for $1000+ and not truly fixed the issue. then they would have gone through part monkey swap at another $1000 and still not fix the issue. Intermittent electrical issues are the worst, once i had an issue with Solder joints expanding once heated up on main relay. took forever to find problem trying to waiting for it to fail on a hot day. great job wes.

    • @RubenKelevra
      @RubenKelevra 2 года назад +3

      @@alanprather8399 agreed, hard to track down requires a good shop. The average shop will fire the parts canon at it without finding the cause and just eventually give up and let you pay anyway or fix it by surprise.

    • @felixchaus
      @felixchaus 2 года назад +1

      I'we paid 500 in a dealer, and still didn't get the problem fixed. Next owner for the tractor called and said it was the switch that was broken inside and causing malfunction really randomly. I wasn't getting that malfunction since I turned the switch just enough not to short out and blow the fuse

    • @Steve_Just_Steve
      @Steve_Just_Steve 2 года назад +9

      @@RubenKelevra Almost impossible to find a mechanic this good and this honest.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 года назад +113

    Wow that was an epic diag, Wes! Intermittent issues can be an absolute bear lol. Definitely key to determine what conditions make the car act up, and test it in those conditions... Even in the snow or rain or brutal cold 😉

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +38

      Plus no parts required!

    • @keithhastings4092
      @keithhastings4092 2 года назад +8

      Yeah….very nice job there. I doubt even a dodge dealer would’ve fixed it the first time around. They probably would’ve thrown an ECM at it first…

    • @eric_seguin
      @eric_seguin 2 года назад +1

      Hazardous duty pay.

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 2 года назад

      @@eric_seguin Danger pay more like, this is a job worth the danger pay for sure

    • @gwpsr58
      @gwpsr58 2 года назад

      @@WatchWesWork You didn't charge him for the 3" of heater hose?

  • @willb5272
    @willb5272 2 года назад +2

    You know. Most people would just write issues like this off and just give up. Pay for wildly and outrageously overpriced new parts and harnesses.
    You’re a man’s man Wes. Putting up with it to find the issue, that, in all reality minus your time, cost dollars to fix.

  • @zomie1
    @zomie1 2 года назад +47

    When you start to see your truck on Watch Wes Work ... you know it is time to buy a new truck. I hope you feel better sir.

    • @gunners4129
      @gunners4129 2 года назад +1

      Nearly every Chrysler product after 2005-2006 uses drive by wire.. and after 08 its nearly every manufacturer. Not vehicle specific and no need to worry and more than any other vehicle... unless of course you mean this specific truck in the video is yours lol then yes, maybe a new truck is in order

    • @zomie1
      @zomie1 2 года назад

      @@gunners4129 it was mostly a joke but ... It does show that year and generation is starting to age out.

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 2 года назад +2

      @@zomie1 They still sell that body style as the RAM Classic, now I see why they call it classic. Christ I'm getting old...

    • @gunners4129
      @gunners4129 2 года назад +2

      True, and the routing is less than ideal. But out of experience I honestly would worry more about a mouse jumping up in there overnight during winter. I'd say a quarter of my wire repairs are winter rodent related. And that can happen on any generation and in alot of cases its upper intake harness related and could cause this exact scenario. I see it alooot on Chrysler minivans under the engine cover. Same with chevy traverses.
      None of this is me trying to be corrective, just saying I miss working on cars from before 05 😂

  • @MrAPCProductions
    @MrAPCProductions 2 года назад +153

    Fellow wrench thrower here. That spot is very common to rub through on the fuel rail and cause typical chrysler fire problems. Usually after the 5th or 6th hemi engine swap the tech will notice both sides doing the same thing. One of the wires in that loom is 12v Batt on a 20amp fuse... metal fuel rail, hemi tap, becomes hemi torch.

    • @dev-debug
      @dev-debug 2 года назад +20

      Wrench thrower is an appropriate term for intermittant problems like this one lol

    • @flir67man84
      @flir67man84 2 года назад +1

      Wow..

    • @shanepowers7566
      @shanepowers7566 2 года назад

      The knock sensor loom where it comes up and around the front of the engine and into the harness is, also, a common area for rub through problems. Passenger side front.

  • @DarkFlamage
    @DarkFlamage 2 года назад +56

    Naturally you get stuck with some of the toughest problems, cuz if it was easy, people would fix it themselves. Thanks for sticking with this one, Wes.

    • @stevanrose7439
      @stevanrose7439 2 года назад +2

      I worked on my truck to the tune of around a thousand dollar’s chasing a open circuit that the scan tool was telling me. Ended up taking it to a dealership for another 450.00. They found it 😡.
      So it’s not always easy but I tried.

    • @DarkFlamage
      @DarkFlamage 2 года назад +1

      @@stevanrose7439 When I was in my early teen years, for a brief period, I had a neighbor named Steve Rose!

    • @willb3018
      @willb3018 2 года назад

      Or maybe take it to a dealer.....for a lot of money.

  • @Potoum
    @Potoum 2 года назад +19

    Wes is like the Sherlock Holmes of electrical mystery.
    "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
    2 wires shorting against plastic, however improbable, must be cause by moisture, and must be the truth!

  • @fetus2280
    @fetus2280 2 года назад +90

    I think i can safely say this ... We would NEVER bail on you Wes... No matter How hard it gets we will Stick with you throughout and do our best to Help You along the way . Although i cant help ya im an i.t guy but im here to Learn from the best :) Cheers mate .

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 2 года назад

      Very similar thought process between IT and mechanicing, just apply it to the vehicle, it's parts, wiring, and computer(s) instead of whatever electronic gizmo we have to look at

    • @kevinknight470
      @kevinknight470 2 года назад

      I T Techs have their own nightmares to deal with, so thank you for your service and a good review for Wes. I used to work installing fiber optic cable for Verizon, we had diagnostic nightmares too.

  • @MarshallBF
    @MarshallBF 2 года назад +95

    "The problem is extremely intermittent..." man, that is always such a pain... you are really good at what you do Wes! Respect to you! (and I strongly believe your thoughts about moisture are correct)

    • @seanwieland9763
      @seanwieland9763 2 года назад +4

      “How am I supposed to fix something that won’t stay broken?”

  • @Qusin111
    @Qusin111 2 года назад +13

    You are 100% correct the dealer always replaces parts and then makes repairs if the new parts does not fix it. You saved him lots and maybe even the truck.

  • @martehoudesheldt5885
    @martehoudesheldt5885 2 года назад +8

    Scotty was right. " The more complex the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain"

  • @larrywalker7759
    @larrywalker7759 2 года назад +8

    The most often used phrase I have heard regarding electrical problems in my career is "It must have a short in it." Universal catch all comment. Heard it from customers, mechanics, managers etc. Sometimes that has been used to convey the idea that it can't be diagnosed, or it can't be fixed.
    Along comes Wes to really study the nature of the "short" and pick out identifying clues and details that blow away the camouflage and "There you are you little troublemaker"!!!
    Well done Wes!

  • @rsmith3062
    @rsmith3062 2 года назад +56

    Nice to hear the shout out's and acknowledgments to the other you tubers that helped or contributed to this complicated diagnosis. Wes is right dealer would have replaced thousands of dollars in parts and still not have fixed the problem.

  • @colddiesel
    @colddiesel 2 года назад +3

    I have watched this twice and will probably go for a third. At 83+ we had never heard of computers when I was being trained. I found this absolutely fascinating and it is so pleasing to learn new stuff - from someone 45 years younger! Well done , great job.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад

      There were some shops using scopes long ago. The local Dodge dealer had a primitive scope and diagnostic machine that ran on a rail down the center of the shop. It had secondary ignition probes and a gas analyzer. Pretty sophisticated really. I would think it was from the late 1970s.

  • @davidfarrish3768
    @davidfarrish3768 2 года назад +11

    Wes I’m amazed at what you have to know and the electronic tools you need. I worked as a licensed mechanic in my own business in the 70’s. My diagnostic tools consisted of my ears, a stethoscope,

    • @lustfulvengance
      @lustfulvengance 2 года назад +2

      You guys were SO lucky! I'm so envious of the mechanics of yesteryear!

  • @malanvogt
    @malanvogt 2 года назад +58

    Your skills never cease ro amaze me. Wish you were close enough to be my mechanic

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 2 года назад +4

      No s**t. He's 2 1/2 hours from me but I'm a' thinkin'...... hmmmm...

    • @86FxBdyCpe
      @86FxBdyCpe 2 года назад

      Amen to that Matt.

    • @mikflo2403
      @mikflo2403 2 года назад

      Yep- he about three counties south west of me. I been a thinking also:)) no
      I

    • @mikflo2403
      @mikflo2403 2 года назад

      Yes

  • @longrider8265
    @longrider8265 2 года назад +56

    Wes, this one was epic. Intermittent electrical issues are the hardest and almost impossible to track down. You may have wanted to blow it to bits a few times but you stuck to it and did not resort to the parts canon. I would think an accel pedal sensor(s) plus a computer would have been easy to justify based on what was seen. Keep up the fantastic work.

  • @JohnG6
    @JohnG6 2 года назад +25

    Awesome job, Wes, similar to a recent SMA episode where the dealer wanted the customer to buy a $2000 harness and Mr. O traced the problem down to a bad alternator. Except in your case a new harness would have fixed the problem.

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 2 года назад +3

      They had already pretty well scammed her on a new car anyway so it pretty well would've gotten sold at this point regardless

  • @rustyrods8535
    @rustyrods8535 2 года назад +30

    Wes when I was a younger man working at a friends shop he always told me that anyone can fix the easy stuff but when those types give up and take the problem to guys like you and him that take the next step diagnose before throwing parts at it , we saw lots of cars and trucks come in with lots of new parts , the parts throwers had thrown at it …literally hundreds of dollars of new parts and the same issues they had before all their check book had been spent . Barry would actually diagnose and confirm the problem with lots of times very little more spent . Thanks for being Barry .👍👍

  • @foamermetal
    @foamermetal 2 года назад +15

    As a novice watching I have no problem following along with your explanation of the diagnosis. Keep up the good work you do. Those folks you help I'm certain are singing your praises to those around them.

  • @spacemanspiff85
    @spacemanspiff85 2 года назад +4

    That was fantastic. Watching an engineer who is also a mechanic troubleshoot some of these issues is .... well, no words. Your combination of an engineering mindset combined with experience as a mechanic allows for some of the most intelligent automotive troubleshooting I think I've seen anywhere. Thanks much, man. I really appreciate you on my Sunday mornings.

  • @elmustachio3683
    @elmustachio3683 2 года назад +2

    Another excellent diagnosis Wes. I always learn something from your videos.
    Invoice:
    2 butt splices $1
    Knowing where to put butt splices $499
    😉

  • @JohnSmith-tv5ep
    @JohnSmith-tv5ep 2 года назад +1

    WES, Ya lost me at APP1, ! At 67 years old, I learned points And condensers , leaded gas carburetors and manual transmissions from... Motor Manuals!
    YOU my friend are at a different level with mechanical abilities!
    Computers in vehicles and Computer diagnostics! Hats off to you!
    I can't fix this stuff, nor even want to try! Good stuff!!!

  • @FarmCraft101
    @FarmCraft101 2 года назад +11

    Great fix. Rewarding to figure something difficult like that out and then find the smoking gun. Great work Wes.

  • @4knanapapa
    @4knanapapa 2 года назад +9

    Retired wrench 5 years and just went through a reduced engine power situation on my gsons 06 Sierra,multiple U codes and throttle control codes , 2 weeks with my 140.00 amazon scan tool here's what I found, a corroded ground wire to the Under hood modual, u code fix and a flat lined downstream O2 sensor causing a emission concern putting the truck in limp mode, wow I feel your pain, am in salty Michigan as well.
    Your channel, Eric O.and Diesel Creek are my favorites, always good info.

    • @dans_Learning_Curve
      @dans_Learning_Curve 2 года назад +4

      Yep, those guys are my entertainment also!
      Great channels!

  • @yako0000
    @yako0000 2 года назад +16

    amazing diagnostic skills Wes. you're right, a dealer would have fired the parts cannon. this is why we watch your channel.

  • @paulwomack5866
    @paulwomack5866 2 года назад +1

    Second comment - the way you got the shot of the wire rub area (back of the compartment, tricky to light, inspection mirror and manual focus) was superb.
    And putting the relevant diagrams and error codes "on screen" during the video edit must take you a lot of work.
    Easy for the viewer to take for granted. I am grateful.

  • @stephenbridges2791
    @stephenbridges2791 2 года назад +23

    Good job. Even back in my day, an intermittent electric problem has always been the bane of a mechanic. In the analog day, you sometimes had to make your best guess.

    • @JoeHynes284
      @JoeHynes284 2 года назад

      ...parts canon loading...

  • @frederich_9254
    @frederich_9254 2 года назад +26

    In addition to wiring tug tests and such for intermittent issues, maybe we now need to spray water along harnesses and connectors.
    Great job Wes!

  • @cheeto4493
    @cheeto4493 2 года назад +6

    I like these hide-and-seek problem diagnostic videos just as much as your wrench cranking videos. I'm just sorry you had to go through all the headaches.

  • @jcanzurlo
    @jcanzurlo 2 года назад +9

    WOW, I am impressed with your diagnostic skills. I was a Avionics Electrician in the Navy back in the 80s and chased wires on F14s and and seen all sorts of crazy stuff that sea water can do to wires. But that was crazy and outstanding work. Great job Wes.

  • @FeralPreacher
    @FeralPreacher 2 года назад +6

    The absolute best part of this is that you reached out for help with the problem.
    Nobody knows everything, and we all need help and should help others.
    Great job in finding and fixing the problem.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @luke.m
    @luke.m 2 года назад +43

    Thank you for bringing us along on these sorts of frustrating investigations. These sort of videos are where I gain the most insight!

  • @paulwomack5866
    @paulwomack5866 2 года назад +1

    If ya' can't reproduce it, ya' can't fix it.
    A fundamental truth, and it applies to software debugging too (lifelong professional coder here...)
    Kudos on your persistence and insight.

  • @billsimmons7754
    @billsimmons7754 2 года назад +2

    I have been an electronics guy all my life (and I am old) and consider myself to be an excellent trouble shooter. What impressed me most about your skillset is not once did I hear a mistake in any terminology or the logic you used during this entire video. That is incredibly rare even among skilled electronics techs.

  • @ralphmillais5237
    @ralphmillais5237 2 года назад +12

    That was an incredibly interesting video. I would never have figured that out in a month of Sundays. That customer did well to find you!

  • @OSXMan
    @OSXMan 2 года назад +10

    With everything I've seen you do, you're more than fair on the pricing. Anybody that would do these crazy difficult jobs for less isn't likely to do a very good job. The dealer or a shop with an aloof attitude would have charged thousands and thrown a bunch of un-necessary parts at it. And it still might no be fixed. You do thorough work and when it's done, it's done right.

  • @eric_seguin
    @eric_seguin 2 года назад +1

    Your deductive reasoning(?) is beyond me. I would have never figured it out. Mostly because you're a genius and I'm an old school freak wishing for more knowledge. Thanks for taking the time to teach us.

  • @bradgeiser8032
    @bradgeiser8032 2 года назад +2

    wow !! Fixed the old chevy truck carb and still find a needle in a haystack and know what caused the sensor differences in app1 and app2. No one could have done any more for such a hard to find problem. I'm glad someone is happier finding the problem instead of just throwing parts until its too late. Being able to diagnose these type of problems enables your "fix it" power to be about the best around. Keep it up , and don't let those corp people tell you different

  • @biggooddad
    @biggooddad 2 года назад +5

    "Intermittent" is a dirty word in the repair world. Good work Wes

  • @sweetpeaz61
    @sweetpeaz61 2 года назад +7

    Man you are good! that was very interesting..Humidity does weird things, I had Fax machine years ago that would 'ding' the outside phone bell whenever it rained or was foggy..turns out a spider had got in and died with its legs accross the phone wire terminals and in damp weather dead spider became conductive lmao .. Great chanel Wes.Thanks for sharing your pain with these jobs.

  • @drummingriffin
    @drummingriffin 2 года назад +1

    Bail??? Who's gonna bail?? Like it or not Wes, you're stuck with us. Great bit of detective work there. If the floor ever drops out of mechanics, you can always get a job working for the Police as an investigator 😁🤣😂Oh, and get well soon Wes 😊

  • @ronicard
    @ronicard 2 года назад +1

    Dude, that is some ninja level diagnosing there. If the customer complains about that very reasonable charge, fire the customer because he doesn't deserve to be able to come back. Outstanding work there, Wes!

  • @cesargallo7424
    @cesargallo7424 2 года назад +11

    Wes, your dedication to this repair is incredible. Don't ever give up, there is always some logic behind the problems!

  • @Adamsadventures83
    @Adamsadventures83 2 года назад +11

    Every new vehicle confirms to me just how superior old school mechanical systems are.

    • @MichaelSteeves
      @MichaelSteeves 2 года назад +1

      You missed the videos on the carb issues eh?

    • @Adamsadventures83
      @Adamsadventures83 2 года назад

      @@MichaelSteeves nope, I'm very familiar with carbs myself.

  • @geraldmccuistion1469
    @geraldmccuistion1469 2 года назад +1

    nicely done. Crysler products used to be noted for not starting when wet. They used to say a dog could pee on the wheel and they wouldn't start. Good vid.

  • @trevorkerr9536
    @trevorkerr9536 2 года назад

    Hi Wes...I watch you videos all the time, and you have unbelievable patience when it comes to diagnostic issues...making you "the wizard of mechanilectrical diagnostricky" !!! Now for your health...and here I speak from over 40yrs experience...go to your local shop and get yourself a few large bottles of bitter lemon, or tonic water (generic brand will do). For your first "dose", drink a glassful...after that, every time you walk past a bottle just have a swig. I am nearly 69yrs old, and have been using these products for over 40yrs in the above manner, and it is very rare that I ever get caught by the flu or other similar illnesses. The only thing I can put it down to is the small amount of quinine content in both of these products (in Australia, anyhow). 25yrs ago I told a doctor about this, and he tried it for himself. He was that impressed that not only did he try it for himself, with same results as me, but he now advises his patients to try it. I hope this helps you. Cheers for now...Trev, from QLD, Australia.

  • @MatIocks
    @MatIocks 2 года назад +6

    Props to you for having great patience and restraint to not deploy the parts cannon on that truck. So many people immediately fire the cannon at issues like this and say it's "fixed". Only to end up with the same problem down the road.

  • @tda2806
    @tda2806 2 года назад +6

    Much respect. My father who started as mechanic in the 1950's, hated electrics with a passion, when there were only a few wires and the most complex part fitted was either the voltage regulator or the dynamo. I'll get him to watch this with me soon and I'll add what his reaction is.

    • @joegustin7158
      @joegustin7158 2 года назад +1

      Iam With Your Dad Give Me Flathead Ford

  • @jacquejecker4435
    @jacquejecker4435 2 года назад +1

    Your diagnostic ability is awesome. Another thing you accomplished on this one was to have the sound and your lip movement get way out of sync for the last few minutes. Awesome!!! 😃 UPDATE; I just went back and viewed that part again and now it is correct. Musta been my own donkey power provider.

  • @johndeerekid167
    @johndeerekid167 2 года назад +1

    Gotta love it when the invoice reads parts 5$, labor $500. Just got through a simple brake job that turned into a whole front end rebuild.

  • @Thebowzer221
    @Thebowzer221 2 года назад +11

    Hang in there Wes, don't let it kick your ass. It's bound to happen from time to time.
    Keep the videos coming.

  • @0ADVISOR0
    @0ADVISOR0 2 года назад +34

    Love the tech stuff, I could continue to listen to you hours long. Love the videos.

  • @riccroft710
    @riccroft710 2 года назад +1

    Really like the way you stick with it until you find the problem. That kind of perseverance is what makes you stand out. Well done.

  • @shermanbird3248
    @shermanbird3248 Год назад

    My father was a computer systems engineer for IBM from 1961 thru 1991. He frequently stated that it is WAY more desirable to be lucky than good when it comes to intermittent problems! ;)

  • @alanrobison1758
    @alanrobison1758 2 года назад +5

    Great job Wes. Like the old man said in the movie "Little Big Man", You must endeavor to persevere. That is what you did.

    • @MrX-fb9uy
      @MrX-fb9uy 2 года назад +1

      Actually Chief Dan George said that same line to Clint Eastwood in the movile "Outlaw Josey Wales"
      FWIT.

  • @josephking6515
    @josephking6515 2 года назад +9

    Wow, Wes, just WOW! Man you are incredible. 🤟

  • @bill8by5
    @bill8by5 2 года назад +1

    From a health standpoint, check out Dr. Bryan Adris - I've been following his philosophy for 2 years now and at 69 with heart problems, and diabetes, I feel great. I enjoy watching your analyses of problematic vehicles - particularly with the newer computer driven crap. Keep up the good work Wes!

  • @ulrichminky9495
    @ulrichminky9495 2 года назад +1

    I am an old man now. I have owned two Dodge trucks in my life because I was too damn stupid to learn the first time. Cheers from Canada. ~ulrich

  • @mikegoggin570
    @mikegoggin570 2 года назад +11

    Love seeing these kinds of videos. Troubleshooting and diagnosis is a skill we share and I love seeing how the pros do it. It gives me ideas for how I can improve my own processes when working on problems.

  • @6minutemedia543
    @6minutemedia543 2 года назад +5

    Tenacity, experience and a mental attitude that will not be beaten. Thanks for taking us on the journey. Customer lucky to have you onboard.

  • @wabump8072
    @wabump8072 2 года назад +1

    An old mechanic friend once told me that the definition of Dodge is “to avoid.” I own a couple and have chased electric issues all over my fathers Town and Country. Great diagnostic work!

  • @abauto5408
    @abauto5408 2 года назад +1

    That's actually pretty common but none the less your diag was spot on and for 5 hours worth of time that is money well spent. He got an honest diagnosis and not one part cannon was fired. Great job!

  • @clintprice2123
    @clintprice2123 2 года назад +7

    Outstanding job, the fact you’re willing to ask for advice shows how good you are. You also asked Eric who I was thinking about when the video was just starting. He thinks he’s not that smart, he’s just plain wrong. 😉 He has such wonderful skills at narrowing things down. You taught us all some new here too. Your price seems plenty fair as you eliminated many parts and extra hours of labor so for the customer it’s a huge win!

  • @brycelund4112
    @brycelund4112 2 года назад +20

    Wow man. Impressive diagnostic skills. I need to get me one of those scan tools.

    • @Steve_Just_Steve
      @Steve_Just_Steve 2 года назад +5

      I need to get one of these mechanics!

    • @RandallFlaggNY
      @RandallFlaggNY 2 года назад +5

      You mean $can Tools.

    • @terryswann2592
      @terryswann2592 2 года назад +4

      U have to learn how to use the scan tool will take a long time if not working with the scan every day

    • @paulwomack5866
      @paulwomack5866 2 года назад +2

      But in this case it was the digital storage scope that was the key...

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed 2 года назад +1

    The Pintal Hump. I can’t believe I missed that. :)
    I don’t know how you pick this stuff but it’s fun to watch from our side.
    I wish I had half your skill. Well done :)

  • @Strike86
    @Strike86 2 года назад

    It's these kind of videos I learn the most from. Diagnosing tricky problems like this is a real art and not something everyone can do - firing the parts cannon and turning wrenches is pretty easy by comparison. Less satisfying to watch maybe, but no less valuable especially to your customers.

  • @richardwarfield7386
    @richardwarfield7386 2 года назад +3

    Incredible detective work Wes. Moisture makes the most sense because after the moisture evaps due to heat the problem would go away and explains the intermittent issue.

  • @jasonmorgan3709
    @jasonmorgan3709 2 года назад +9

    That was pretty awesome to watch Wes. I compliment your dedication and I’m impressed.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 2 года назад +1

    Mind blowing the things modern vehicles need to operate. I love me some intermittent can bus problems on the heavy equipment. Might spend 2 days trying to replicate a problem and still never have it happen.

  • @brick_m
    @brick_m 7 месяцев назад

    im so incredibly grateful for posting these hard diags, i get the knowledge without the night mare. if i ever stumble into you, i owe you a beer wes!

  • @adammb2
    @adammb2 2 года назад +4

    wooow... i wish my mechanics were even able to hook up a lab scope in addition to a OBD interface... huge respect

  • @Rosiesgrandad
    @Rosiesgrandad 2 года назад +4

    Your videos are super informative. I did an apprenticeship as a mechanic in the late 70’s, I would be lost trying to diagnose modern vehicle electronics. Keep up the great work, Wes.

  • @mickgrimes9078
    @mickgrimes9078 2 года назад +1

    this is the kinda stuff that separates a good mechanic from a GREAT mechanic. fantastic as always man.

  • @johnz8210
    @johnz8210 2 года назад +1

    I watch several channels similar to this one, most of the viewers here probably do also.
    This is probably the best diagnosis with a scope video I've seen, ever. There's other great ones, but this one is outstanding.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +2

      Thanks. I wasn’t sure how people would react.

  • @Camhin1
    @Camhin1 2 года назад +16

    Great job Wes! Incredible problem solving skills.

  • @stevenlatham4397
    @stevenlatham4397 2 года назад +7

    I love these scope/extremely difficult electrical videos. I’ll admit, electrical problems are not my forte, and I’ve given up on a few of them. Great job as always. You fix some nearly impossible problems.

  • @jonkinney1067
    @jonkinney1067 2 года назад

    You are smart enough to know that each problem must be looked out from all angles and then the proper problems be dealt with. You sir do not load a parts cannon, fire it, charge a ton of money and ship it. No your integrity and humbleness to search for answers from others is loud and clear. This is why people trust you and respect you. Thank you for the lessons in fixing things and the lessons in honesty and integrity. We appreciate you. And your respect and acknowledgment to everyone who helped you is exactly what I am talking about. Have a great Easter.

  • @Itsjustme-Justme
    @Itsjustme-Justme 2 года назад

    Last week: Wes complaining about careburators not being suitable for millenials
    This week: Millenial Wes complaining about electronics doing strange things.
    I really appreciate that you are willing to go down the rabbit hole, working together with other other car guys to find even the obscurest problems and do actual repairs instead of just shooting the parts cannon.

  • @LeMecanoDuDimanche
    @LeMecanoDuDimanche 2 года назад +6

    man, your diagnosis skills amaze me. wow. just, wow.

  • @kc360awareness
    @kc360awareness 2 года назад +8

    Hey Wes, love the variety of your content. i dont ind the more technical "looking at computer screen" type of videos
    Not to mention your sketches and hand drawn schematics are top shelf even though a bit "SKETCHY" lol keep it coming!!!

  • @billsitser5639
    @billsitser5639 2 года назад

    The biggest problem was is Chrysler has never admitted that their wiring harnesses are junk Generally they burn up before something like that happens Awesome video love you channel

  • @jimbos1567
    @jimbos1567 2 года назад +1

    Am enjoying this channel immensely. You and Eric O are my favorites to watch and enjoy. I do enjoy others, but personalities and sense of humor really add to the experience. thank you for sharing your time Wes.

  • @TheFossil999
    @TheFossil999 2 года назад +13

    Amazing work Wes. You have a real talent. Well done mate.

  • @SteveRivett
    @SteveRivett 2 года назад +13

    The NAG1 transmission in my Jeep was going into limp mode whenever the Jeep got moist. I eventually had to test all of the wires in the harness and run an overlay between the TCM & Transmission. It was a frustrating but rewarding fix...still works 5 years later. It takes about 15 minutes to reset the codes and took a month to sort it out so lots of time sitting on the side of the road doing resets.

  • @kongchingpow
    @kongchingpow 2 года назад

    I think you're a rarity, Wes. With the knowledge you have from experience...and the fact that you have a steel trap mind for that knowledge...you are able to diagnose and track down the smallest things. It is simply amazing, and i don't think 99.999% of mechanics can do what you do. So many of them are like you described the stealership being...just misdiagnose and replace parts. I wish i lived in your neck of the woods.

  • @danhei
    @danhei 2 года назад +1

    Wes you are the Colombo of mechanics. Always figure out who the bad guy is in the end.

  • @benrosenbaum2962
    @benrosenbaum2962 2 года назад +5

    That was impressive detective work. Great job.

  • @jean-lucpicard8186
    @jean-lucpicard8186 2 года назад +3

    Wes, you are God damn BRILLIANT! I hope I will eventually be even a fraction of the diagnostic genius that you are, but I’m not sure I’ll ever be that good!

  • @calholli
    @calholli 2 года назад +1

    This would have been near impossible without seeing the scope signal.
    Scope for the win once again.

  • @mummabear01
    @mummabear01 2 года назад

    Wes, this is why I'd bring my vehicle to you instead of a dealership or another garage. As someone who repairs equipment and systems for a living, I can completely feel you about intermittent problems. I so appreciate the level of your diagnostic work. Sometimes OCD can be a benefit... speaking from experience here.
    Keep up the great work and continue inspiring other MacGyvers like myself.

    • @mummabear01
      @mummabear01 2 года назад

      P.S. I let the commercials play all the way through. Helps to make up for some of that time well invested.

  • @joshjablonicky171
    @joshjablonicky171 2 года назад +3

    Dear wess you absolutely kick ass!! Your troubleshooting skills are on a whole another level that I've never seen myself. As always another great video by The Almighty diagnostic King.

  • @chrisdidamo7675
    @chrisdidamo7675 2 года назад +3

    Good info on the redundant systems for pedal, nice find on the chaffed wires. Another truck out the door!

  • @pzapped
    @pzapped 2 года назад

    Cost of repair. You mentioned analysis time involved and how you bill. Think if a dealer changed out the Ecu but missed the shorted wire. The guy would have paid 1,020 for the ECU and labor. Then the guy gets it back, surprise the problem is still there. If you charge a hundred dollars per hour by 5 hours it cost him only 500. And the problem is resolved correctly and last, no surprises. That's a great value. Good work, impressed, really impressed. Thanks for educating us on what is involved in repairs the honest way. Most would prefer you going the analysis route. The difference is you have the detective tools, skills with expertise to get to the problem in a reasonable time frame.

  • @handyhippie6548
    @handyhippie6548 2 года назад

    and that's why i'm still driving my 1993 f150 4x4 with a 300 6cyl. and aod tranny. i don't need an electrical engineering degree, and $5000 worth of scan tools to find out what any problem it might ever have would be in order to then be able to repair it. nor will i ever have a repair bill greater than the value of my truck at a garage because i couldn't diagnose and repair it myself. i went to tech school in the mid '80s, but that $6000 worth of education didn't prepare me to deal with problems like this. without those scanners, and an adequate understanding of how that rather complicated system works, you would never have been able to get a handle on what the problem truly was, even though it was a relatively easy fix once you did. good on you for sticking with it, and not just bombarding it with the parts cannon until the customer cried uncle and signed over the title to escape the slaughter.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +1

      I've had a few of those OBD1 Fords really take me for a ride...

    • @handyhippie6548
      @handyhippie6548 2 года назад

      @@WatchWesWork that's why intermittent electrical issues are my least favorite repair job. i've spent hours trying to track them down on vehicles without a computer, only to find a broken wire inside the insulation from vibration that showed no indication of the break on the outside, that was buried in a harness bundle, or corrosion from a small crack in the insulation that turned the wire inside into green dust. that's the stuff of nightmares right there.

  • @robertklein9190
    @robertklein9190 2 года назад +23

    Wes, don't be afraid to charge your customers, you've got to make living and a ton of overhead too. If they go to the local parts store for a diagnosis and throw the kitchen sink at it, they get what they deserve. I think you went over the top on this, and I'm sure there are tech's scratching their heads even after viewing twice. Time to go back to cave man, sledge hammer and brake drum.

    • @hughwolfe8524
      @hughwolfe8524 2 года назад +1

      True, I lost by not charging enough.

    • @elbertfreeman8124
      @elbertfreeman8124 10 месяцев назад +1

      Charging the customer goes along with satisfaction, I strived for both! I had a repeat customer how waited for my expertise (some times weeks). Other mechanics/shops will be jealous but don't strive for equal results. "The mark of a true Craftsman".

    • @brendanhayes2752
      @brendanhayes2752 10 месяцев назад

      Agree, I do anesthesia for some cardiac electrophysiologists. They trace down wacky electrical pathways in the cardiac conduction system . This was truly amazing. You do amazing work.

  • @tekvax01
    @tekvax01 2 года назад +4

    Wes!! *That was some of the best diagnostics and analysis I have ever seen sir!*
    I tip my hat to you! _Now let your wife get you better, and get rid of that cold!_

    • @tekvax01
      @tekvax01 2 года назад

      The Oscilloscope is your best friend! It has saved my butt many times!

    • @dans_Learning_Curve
      @dans_Learning_Curve 2 года назад

      How did you do the italics text?
      *I know how to do bold.*

  • @TEAMCHARBAR
    @TEAMCHARBAR Год назад

    I've been a mechanic for 40 years, I currently have 18 ASE certifications I manage a shop that does about 5,000,000 a year And I know quality when I see it and sir you are quality. brilliant, simply brilliant deductions. Text book approach. I stand and Applaud you.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  Год назад

      Jesus. Where can a shop do $5 million a year?

    • @TEAMCHARBAR
      @TEAMCHARBAR Год назад

      Sacramento ca. 10 techs and 4 advisors. But there shops that are doing double that around me. So I don't believe it was water that was causing your short I believe it was salt water that was causing your shorts and salt from the Roads maybe? That's my experience and electronic repair sugar and salt are conductors and water is not so Who who who knows.

  • @thatguyb3rt
    @thatguyb3rt 2 года назад +1

    That was an impressive diag Wes, give yourself a pat on the back for that one. I think your charge for the diag time is more than reasonable if not undercutting your worth a bit but it's easy for us viewers to say that, we're not paying for it. Your repair was probably still far less than what that owner would have paid taking it to a dealership for the parts cannon treatment. I think you're onto something with the moisture causing the short hence why it was only doing it after it sat for a while in the elements and it went away as it warmed up. Either way, great video Wes, thank you for taking us along for the ride!