This Panda-Colored Sedan Is Fantastic | 2023 BMW 7-Series Review
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- The front end might be controversial, but aside from that the 7-Series is simply the best full-size luxury sedan in America at the moment. From comfortable seats to an easier to use infotainment system than the S-Class, tons of power and an available electric model, this is the luxo-barge of your dreams. You know, if you dream of luxo-barges....
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HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER ALEX🙏.... HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FRIDAY EVERYONE ✌️
Somebody needs to show the BMW people how to do a digital rear view mirror.
Crazy how that rear view mirror was overlooked.
Yup
No digital rear view mirror!!! They get dirty, fog up, and get tons of sun glare when driving. However, it would be good when the screen is in use.
BMW never fails to amaze. In this new model, they've managed to come up with an impressive list of additional systems and features that will cease to function shortly after they're out of warranty.
You give BMW lots of credit. They will cease to function long before the warranty expires.
If the goal was to make it look like an appliance, they succeeded.
If the goal was to make it look like a panda, they failed.
Let's talk about opulence with just a bit of appliance.
What kind an electric or gas stove 😭💀
I currently drive a Mercedes; this is more attractive and has better infotainment/ controls and function (back sear headroom) than the new S class which is all gloss /glass. Salute BMW for getting it right.
I’d definitely like to buy this used and outside of the warranty period.
Haha
It'll be a fantastic investment...along the lines of buying SVB bank stock a year ago.
I’ve got a bridge for sale.
This will lose 90% of its value in like 5 years
95%
Mr Magoo has taken over the job as chief exterior designer of BMW for the current year's releases.
I thought Lexus' front ends were bad...
Concerning that a $100K+ BMW 7 Series has a rear window screen you cannot see through and does not have an electronic rear view mirror, or an adjustable height seat belt for the front passenger.
But turn signals pulsate, so no biggie!
I’m not sold on the front design. I like the look of the headlights, and even though I’m not a big fan of divorced lights, I think it’s necessary for turn signals when LED lights are on - a lot of the time the headlights are brighter than the turn signal and you can’t see if someone is signaling to turn.
That said, if I was loaded, I’d get one because… why not? Sounds like BMW actually made a comfortable road trip car that doesn’t have a pelvis shattering ride.
Yeah the accent lights still totally suck ass *STILL* I agree...it's official. Need to be wrap around and maybe tear drop as absolutely *ZERO* flair go on here. Still as Flagship Sedan remain wholly impressed by the German offerings with only Cadillac still winning once excluding all of the marketing gimmickry.
The non M version BMW has always had one of the most comfortable ride found anywhere. It's the M and the ridiculous 21+ inch tires with aspect ratio of less than 45 that has created the pelvis shattering rides...not just for BMW but all vehicles. Tires and suspension system have more to do with comfortable ride than the combination of everything else....and low profile tires will always have stiff and pelvis shattering rides irrespective of the vehicle.
Couldn’t agree more. I was riding in a friend’s Telluride that had the 21” wheels and the ride was very disappointing. Jarring to say the least.
It's design is outstanding and very impressive.
Love big sedans but man that front end is a lot to process
That’s longer than a Smart ForTwo!
The presence this car has when you see it irl is incredible
Correct, I saw it an auto show a couple months back and it really stands out. And the inside is crazy, even my wife who doesn't give a shit about cars was impressed and noticed it was very expensive looking and feeling. Cars are bought in person, not online.
it sure sticks out... like a sore thumb!
Have to disagree. I know looks are subjective but I park next to a black one everyday and it’s just an attractive design to me. It’s not classy or elegant. It looks cheap to me.
@@TheBreakfastLover have you seen it though
@@zhiyako4032 I have, and it's an eyesore.
Yes, it is fantastic, short-term. 😊
I'd rather the boring Audi A8 than the "adventurous" 7-Series in terms of looks.
The BMW i7 EV has a quieter cabin and better handling more fun to drive ! Wait until you review one !
Only a face a mother could love 😅
Blind mother
That's debatable.
I actually like the design, especially in a darker color. My wife's dark red one is going to be delivered later this week. We're excited to finally get it after weeks of waiting.
BMW needs to resurrect Paul Bracq and re-apply 1980s 5 and 7 series design to modern tech. Upright and clean lines, round headlights, the hammerhead front end.
Amazing that they did not include a digital rear view mirror. It’s available on many lesser cars when it’s not really needed. It’s essential on this one for safety and drivability.
Eventually bmw will come back to their senses aesthetically
If you're going to make LED signal lights faded in and out, why not just use old incandescent bulbs???
People like the way LEDs look, and they are much more customizable. I suspect incandescents over 25-30 years of use would be cheaper for the user compared to LED (if/when the LED module fails), but no one cares about the fifteenth owner.
The Genesis style lights are nice.
How long will last this car and how about resale value ?
About split front light design : correct me if i'm wrong.
Curious that german designers move to Korea in the past apply this style and now the best flagship korean design is the G90 with much cleaner art-deco streamline look.
I saw and identical one (black on white) a few days ago. It certainly has presence. Just not the good kind for me.
The 7 series and S Class use to be inspirational cars. But there's nothing in this car that appeals to me, at all. Screens everywhere, no buttons, no manual vent controls, plastic everywhere that will scratch very easily. And iDrive8 sucks. Climate control buttons are gone. Heated seats and ventilated seats are now have to be turned on / off in software. Even the HEATED STEERING WHEEL BUTTON is gone. No one can dispute that having to navigate a software menu to do simple tasks is safer than a switch you can locate and turn on, without looking, by memory. The fact the common sense has been lost around this is totally mind boggling. Kool Aid drinkers will say use voice commands. But the voice commands are slow and half baked, at best. You can easily press a button and have your attention back on the road before the voice command system is even ready to take your command.
im not sure why but the front reminds me of the 2nd gen mirai
Looks cool but many older cars from most brands are doing opposite of Hyundai/Kia/Genesis
Mercedes does have a Rolls-Royce counterpoint with the Maybach line, right?
They`re trying. It`s just not working.
here's how I rank S Class and & series in terms of exterior design: (1) S Class (2) 7 Series (3) EQ Series. But the 90s versions are so much better
I, also, would prefer amber turn signals. Thanks for the review!
5:57 The 121.4 combined legroom for the Tahoe is obviously for all 3 rows. Apples to oranges. Or it's a typo.
Superb review, Alex, reflecting the consistently high standards of AoA. Between 23:02 and 23:05 you say 'I love the way the S Class drives' when you probably mean 'I love the way the 7-series drives', unless I've misunderstood. If it's a slip of the tongue, you could always add a visual on-screen correction. Excellent anyway.
In all black is the way to go
Just noticed the rear end looks exactly like the pre refreshed Chevy Volt 😂
Design looks like guys from Genesis and ones from BMW had been drinking together and mixed up design sketches...
My first impression is that it is one of the most hideous things I’ve truly ever seen. I get Nissan from it. Yikes.
Nissan… Murano convertible level.
@@afcgeo882 I want to see that now haha.
@@Jojoba-wz6ri It’s a thing. Google it.
The features are astounding. I hope the vehicle electronics and mechanicals are reliable.
Need powered sun visors now.
Current manual sun visors force you to raise your hand like a commoner.
You know people are hung up on styling but if you gave them the car for a couple days. Theyd realize if a car is truly excellent behind the wheel. The styling youll get over it quick.
Besides, which 7 Series buyer cares what the peasants think.
I'm sure it drives great. It's Fugly on the outside, and the interior is chintzy. All that bling is directly aimed at where they want to sell the most, China. Personally, I find it gauche. Its less precise than usual handling character is also a kowtow to the Chinese market, where the softest ride is king.
Yeah and I feel the same way too the new s class rear turn signals amber when you activate them I think it would have looked great on this car but I know the euro one has amber rear turn signals forsure
I was sssooooooo waiting for this review wow this just made my day 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Alex I’d love to see a video about rolls Royce and Bmw! How they work together and if they share any parts! Love the vids homie! 💪🏽
In China, they already have camera screen on rear mirror - $150 add on their party option. Uses the existing cameras but warranty might be void.
No digital rear view mirror!!! They get dirty, fog up, and get tons of sun glare when driving. However, it would be good when the screen is in use.
I like the front side
The design is HIDEOUS. I don’t care if the car has laser rays, a fax and makes coffee, is horrible. Compare that to the delicate, muscular, perfectly proportioned MB S550 and that brick looks like a joke.
Is BMW still locking installed features behind subscriptions, or did they stop doing that?
The theater screen isn't available in most dealer lots and dealers can't spec it in their next allocation. Can't justify a mortgage, I mean a vehicle without all the features available.
I love it-Grill and all❤
Love it, need the electric version
Niche opinion: As a tall driver, I can't wait for windshield mounted rear view mirrors to become a thing of the past. They constantly block a very relevant portion of my frontward view.
(You have to duck under them to see things frequently which requires a disruption of your side views mirrors, rear view mirror, and distant front view).
Having always been used to panel vans
I removed mine but a problem remains : most windshields have a black dot shade integrated into the glass at this level which will cut your upper periphery. Also several manufacturers integrate their EyeSight there like subaru.
@@oi32df , it prevents shattering of the glass from a thermal stress. The glass is under very high tension internally.
Lemme guess..chrome accents are now an option?
boy o boy what is this car going to be like in 15 years with all that technology.
The front end looks weird, imo. I do like split-light designs, even on the Juke which sort of kicked off the modern trend, but it doesn't always work. Especially when a car is going for classy over cute. I think what they should have done is delete the top headlights, flattened off the top of the kidney bean grill so the black housing for the lights and grill has 1 continuous line across the top, and rake the hood more from the cowl to the front making the front end slightly lower in appearance. I think that would make it look reminiscent of the i8 which is appropriate for their flagship.
Actually the Jeep Cherokee started the trend of divorced headlights & was an epic failure so they went back to reg headlights
The black helps the oversized grill... but it's still ugly.
Really beautiful and luxury but the the big tablet looks display is way more worst than the integrated displays in Mercedes…🤔
Pay all that money for that front end design???? Alex failed to report the same idiots who designed the last versions of the Avalon and Prius, have so obviously been hired by BMW. As for no rear digital camera, how the hell are you supposed to see the rear when you are driving. I'm afraid people get carried away by marketing and image. Plus, their latest trend of not having height adjustable seat belts!!! BMW have made some wonderful cars over the years: 328 in the 30's, M1, 3.0 SI in the 70's, and 5 series in the 80's etc. But to me over the last 10 years, they have ballsed thing up completely with their designs.
Do you have to pay a subscription fee for heated seats, carplay, etc.?
If you’re spending this much money you shouldn’t be complaining about subscriptions for this kind of stuff
@@naveenthemachine or… if you’re paying this much, you should not need to pay for subscriptions… there’s two sides to that argument.
@@wg5331 but it’s not like you can’t afford to do that
@@naveenthemachine just because you can doesn’t make it right though. Faulty logic
The second and third owners might not be able to afford the heated seat subscription. And regardless, the 4G or 5G radios in this car will eventually become outdated and unused -- so how you going to subscribe to the heated seats when the telematics no longer function? Subscriptions for heated seats are dumb.
The front end is so ugly. I saw one in person and the first words out of my mouth were, “wow, its even uglier in person”. When we were complaining all BMW front ends have looked the same for the past 20 years, we didn’t mean make it look like BMW had a baby with a Hyundai. Its busy and just has bad aesthetics and proportions to me. Step in the wrong direction completely for me. On another note, I am really disliking the general trend in the industry to make rear LED turn signals do a fade in-and-out. The key advantage to LED arrays over previous halogen setups, besides brightness, was that instantaneous illumination. It is faster and was safer. It alerted drivers behind quicker, “Hey, I’m braking you should too” or “Hey, my hazards are on be cautious around me”. This fade in-and-out just gives me halogen rear turn signal vibes and I’m not a huge fan. BMW isn’t the only automaker doing this so this is kinda directed at all automakers going in this direction. Finally, I will never understand why automakers, who make cars globally, that need to make rear turn signals amber say in the EU jurisdiction, go ahead and swap them out for red signals in the US market. The German brands are the biggest offenders of this and BMW is no different in this model.
I would buy it over the S Class, but in a different color.
I guess I'm getting to be an ole fart! 😇 I mean, I love tech, but for me this is just WAY over the top and over complicated with things that just seem gimmick-y, at least to me. Plus, I've personally heard the Master 7 Series Tech in my town "talking cars" with other other "car people", and he often says the 7 Series are really great during the first lease, but whoa to those sho buy them after the lease and warranty is over. The 2nd owner needs more money than the first owner. ha ha 🤣
It kind of reminds me of my first car when I was young and really dumb (an '83 Isuzu Impulse... I know I know I will explain). In retrospect I should have bought a '84 Honda Prelude or a Toyota Supra for a few thousand more. But that Isuzu had those "Satellite Controls" all around the steering wheel, where a person could basically run everything on the car without taking a person's hands off the steering wheel. I thought it was so cool... and it was, until things started going wrong (like a row of lights on the center computer row). I thought, "oh that will be a cheap lil' bulb." WRONG it was going to cost $900 because there was no way to change the bulb. That is what finally did it for me. My next car was a slightly used '86 Honda CRX Si that I got from the Pacific Northwest Honda Parts Manager... it was quick, reliable, got great MPG's, handled great, and was super simple. So in a way, I'm glad my first car was a complicated piece of junk with a fuel injected Chevy Luv / Isuzu Truck motor. It saved me from working my up to complex stuff that will break from then on. 😇
Alex, It appears that you were so disoriented by FINALLY finding yourself in a sedan with ample headroom that you misspoke 5:09 and called it legroom. Please don't worry, I am sure many of us are just as awestruck by the first new sedan design since the original, swoopy Mercedes CLS where form actually follows function ie rear seats just as accommodating as the front row.🥳
I wonder if this radically functional BMW 7 Series will start a trend that eventually trickles down to sedans under $100,000.🤔 If it does, it might just save the sedan body style which has been decimated by the machinations of frustrated coupe designers. 🤨
Thanks for another great review. Will be useful after my Civic would be totaled.
I would say that’s I kinda would like front design of the I7 but seems like you can get that front end on the ICE model.
looks good
Yess yes yes Alex is the ONLY one those addresses the rear amber turn signals I think if bmw and these other high end manufacturers can offer all these options and won’t offer US customers the option of having either red and or amber rear turns finals is a shame
Love love love that glamorous interior!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
How much without the tv?
Excellent review. As always. Get well soon 😊
Rain again?
This is a 130k disposable appliance that uses gimmicks to sell. BMW can't get electric water pumps to last more than 65k miles. Many of these doo-dads will be broken by year 6 or 7. If you lease, enjoy! If you buy, good luck!
Who cares about reliability at $100k?
Oh yeah NO ONE 😂
BMW Ranks Third In Consumer Reports’ Most Reliable New Cars Study. Look it up. Just behind Toyota and Lexus.
@@naveenthemachine time is worth nothing to you? Interesting.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow lol, sure.
@@bassandtrebleclef Stay willfully ignorant then. This is easily googled.
Every angle shown manages to look uglier than the previous one. Well done, BMW.
Best sedan in the world is the s class with a v12
They now have 740i xDrive for 2024 which has inline 6
Front end is horrendous. BMW designers should be jailed for what they did to the brand lately.
But you already have, for lack of one, the 2 best sedans on the market... and clearly it's because they are MANUAL...
Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing
Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
Good one. Laughed all day.
@@michaelv6870 It's great that we all have our point of view, mine is simple, I only drive manual, therefore, the 2 best manual sedans are the Blackwing for me.
Coming from the investment world amazing to me someone would buy a vehicle that has the highest depreciation rate of any vehicle.
S class is outselling 7 series by a factor of 6~7 in Asia, ME and Emerging markets. 2023 stats.
I don't know why I can't stop laughing..... That grill.... Dear Lord....
BMW interior inlays need to be non reflective especially the stainless steel & now plastics
This isn’t a car you drive. This is a car you’re driven in
That front end is fugly, deal breaker, out of consideration. First Lexus went nuts with grills a few years back , now BMW with some of its models ?? Never bought a vehicle, quite a few in my 73 years, including BMW and Jaguar, that my eyes didn't fall in love with first. A lot of good high end design talent left Germany and England's marquis brands for Genesis, it's starting to show...........
I have a '20 Alpina B7 now. Wondering what to do next since there is not a new 7 series Alpina. What do you know about this new plug-in hybrid from them? Sounds interesting... My last car was a Panamera 4S e-hybrid plug-in and it was nice to have the power as well as great efficiency. If BMW did the same, that would be a nice option, and if they used the Alpina brand for that, it would be even better!
The 750e is available now.
Incredible machine
The best money pit in the world.
I cannot believe they are not issuing an immediate pause on production and recall on these to retrofit a digital rearview mirror. This is a huge safety issue
All blacked out, this thing is so gangster.
This generation is very reminiscent of the alfa romeo of old from the exterior.
I dare someone to say this looks cheap inside. Because clearly it doesn’t look cheap whatsoever
Looks kinda cheap with that colored light bar behind the trapezoidal plastic dash pieces under the faux carbon fiber type top plastics.
This looks cheap inside.
I third this, looks major gimmicky inside
@@sethgunn8256 but that doesn’t mean a thing. This things 100+k. You’d expect state of the art in literally everything
I'll wait until lease ends and buy it for 55k
Eek, might be close to losing warranty at that point and I’d be scared of owning anything like this without that.
@@ALMX5DP
Maintaining one of these will still probably be cheaper than the depreciation of a new one, and you'd probably be able to still buy a warranty if you're worried.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey probably is the keyword there.
@@ALMX5DP BMW Ranks Third In Consumer Reports’ Most Reliable New Cars Study - just behind Toyota and Lexus. Look it up.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow what about used car reliability rankings? And even one or two issues can be quite costly out of warranty, so even if largely reliable I still get scared thinking of if something goes wrong when not covered.
Alex calls any new car he reviews the best
The rs3 is a ton of fun. The 7 series is world class
The civic is a world class compact sedan etc etc
Because it’s rightfully justified
Hm, going back in order I didn't call the Corolla Cross, Impreza, CX-90, Outlander, Crosstrek, 330, Accord, CR-V, Pilot, Niro, G90, etc etc the best. Something can be solid, something can be the best value, and we will point out "best values" "best reliability numbers" etc, but very very rarely will I ever say "the best" without a qualifier.
I would buy the new G90, and save a lot !
No S Class/ 7 Series/ A8 buyer will ever cross shop those cars with a KIA. Me included.
The best sedan in the world doesn't look like a train hit it
Woah! This will be my first car to buy Alex.
I see you in every comment section saying the car in the video is your dream car. You are a liar
@PK there is no issue with dreaming of owning multiple cars
@@DaRevrinI agree with you about that dude, This person need to wake up, It's 2023 bro.
@@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219 No hate its just funny how you say that in almost video I see
These look much better in real life. Just saw one at my dealer.
As a BMW fan i think they could of done better with the front design.
I test drive an i7 at CES earlier this year. Great vehicle!
I find it hard to believe that an x5 is quieter inside than this top of the line vehicle.