I thought this was going to be a series that never finishes like all the other crazy builds, and then you uploaded the completed thing. This is very hype.
It's the ryzen 7 5700x and Radeon RX 6750XT a good combo, I bought with them a Corsair 650w psu, and 32gb 3600mhz kit of ram. You helped me massively building my first pc thank you ❤.
@@eboethrasher True, coz he compare the mobile version GPU to an actual GPU that we typically use on PC. like ofc there is some drawback when using a compact ver of that specific GPU, bro didn't realize how big and powerful the 4090 compare to a laptop GPU (4090 is almost a laptop size tho HAHA). but still, this dude is nuts to make his own laptop.
I love how you literally build something no company ever wants to build, make it seem useless even thought it's the most portable desktop and then after going through all that, didn't even benchmark just to mark it as good enough. Savage
This is awesome, and I've been waiting for someone to do this for ages. When I was in high school I spent a lot of time trying to design a DIY, "thin" laptop based around the thin-mini-itx standard. I've been planning on revamping my design for years, but there were just some things I couldn't figure out how to do well enough, mostly cooling related. If I ever get to it, I definitely will return to this vid. Thanks!
The '90s Toshiba laptops I have are 'Duracell Laptops', or 'Energizer Laptops' if you live in the US. Energizer invented the 'Energizer Bunny' that just keeps going and going and then, before Energizer could trademark it globally, Duracell stole the concept. So in the UK, when I lived there in the '90s, I thought it was strange when I saw my first 'Duracell Bunny' advert. Anyway, they keep going and going. This homemade laptop will probably cook itself to death within a few years.
Cheat code: JW H610i-P motherboard. It is a board that natively takes 18-20v and has a 160w modular GPU power header. It also lays the video card down flat off the top of the board with no risers. There is also another cheaper (80 vs 100-140) board that only has 120w power for a video card. Either way, simpler. Nice job finishing the project! Looks great.
Amazed that it actually runs. A couple of things. 1. You are brave sir to trust the structure of this thing to 3d printed parts heat-welded together. An aluminum frame would go a long way to making it stronger, but it does seem to hold together for now. 2. Usually, heat-pipes are brazed together with their heat-sinks, but if it works it works. 3. Totally understand the battery bit. Granted, without a battery I donno if it's still a "laptop" but overall it's kinda insane that this idea worked at all.
Posting for safety Do not try to use regular solder or high temp brazing on sintered heatpipes. Use proper solder with REALLY LOW MELTING POINT. The stuff manufacturers use goes liquid before leaded will soften. Severely oveheated vapour chamber will swell, might even burst.
This is really History in the making....Dude really brought in a heck of a revolution......Now just as Armstrong once said "One small step of a man is one giant leap for mankind"....Dude literally proves it true...... Congratulations to the youtuber who posted the first ever "Gaming Laptop Build" on RUclips and through his contribution....I can say that the day in not far behind when one will be able to build his/her own custom laptop.....And all this started from here....... A grand hatsoff to you......
Yeah, if Forrest Gump were considered a genius engineer. OP doesn't even know how to properly de-solder some ports on a MB. This should have used hybrid Peltier/forced air cooling with PTM7950 as the TIM. When you put a desktop GPU in something like this, you had better be monitoring hot spot temp because the overall board temp sensor will likely run a lot cooler than it would with the heatsink and shroud on it. There's probably a 30C differential between the 'GPU Temp' and the hot spot, when it is usually around 10C for normal use with a desktop RX 6600. I also don't think he even came close to properly cooling the VRAM. You can always undervolt the core without much performance loss but the VRAM must be adequately cooled because it will end up using more power than the GPU die in a GPU like this. He needed a large copper plate clamped to the board which covers both the die and VRM as the primary heat spreader. There also needed to be double the number of heat pipes, which should have been brazed to the copper plate and then cast into lead. On the finstack side, the heatpipes should have been soldered to the aluminum with indium and then cast into lead. The thermal conduction path cross sectional area is far too small. JB weld is completely insufficient for thermal transfer in this application and he might as well have duct taped everything together. If I can't properly cool a large desktop replacement gaming laptop with a 10300H that draws a max of 25W and a 1650Ti that draws a max of 50W, he's screwed. His abomination will be drawing more than double that, with ad-hoc coolers that won't be anywhere near as effective as a factory cooling solution because of the half-assed way it was built. Go Peltier or go home.
They've gotta be planning a followup video. No way they'd go through the process of making that custom cooling solution and not show off how well it performs.
Theres 2 major things i take away from this project. 1 being the amount of time designing and planning this took, which many people fail to realize. 2 just how competitive a retail version of something like this could be. I like the idea of gaming laptops and their portability, but at the end of the day, they have miniscule upgradability and are generally very overpriced compared to their desktop counterparts. With that being said, i applaud this build and keep up the awesome work!
There were a few gaming laptops with desktop hardware a few years ago but you can imagine how well those sold. We do have 18in laptops that are massive but even then they look thin compared to those
@@crestofhonor2349Yeah the Area-51M line of laptops from Alienware are probably the most notable. They had actual desktop CPUs and the GPUs were higher tdp variants (in the R2 at least, the 2080 super could use 200 watts). They were actually pretty good but the upgradability wasn't amazing, and Alienware pretty quickly abandoned it. Intel just changes sockets too often to warrant the high price too, AMD would've been a much better option
@@crestofhonor2349 - A lot of people just want portable gaming desktops though. That said, it MIGHT be possible to get the best of both worlds - battery life and gaming performance, by using a hybrid system with an arm based Raspberry pi, so you're technically carrying two computers instead of just the one, and they link together for sharing data.
@crestofhonor2349 fair enough, much like itx pc's, this would definitely be a niche product but it's definitely a concept I can get behind. Either way as a one of one custom project it's pretty awesome.
The best thing of this laptop is you uploaded all progress in one video. And trust me, when I didn’t see any “EP” thing in title, I didn’t skip a second.
Honestly, this feels alike the results of a "If I cannot find it, I shall do it myself", and its quite impressive! Congrats, definately earned a subscriber.
This has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever come across. I've always wondered if something like this was possible, I'm glad you bought it into reality. Mad respect for your patience and effort on this build!
There's no point, just get silver solder and look around for a business that does silver soldering locally. You support a local, and you get exactly what you want with 100% performance AND resilience. Solder can break from stress, silver solder ... does too, when you put a lever on it.
Brazing is better, and not much more difficult. The aluminium finstacks should be attached to the copper blocks with indium and the heatpipes should be brazed to the copper blocks for best results. But he really should have gone with PTM7950 and hybrid Peltier cooling. The best solution here would have been to cast the heatpipes into a thin lead block and sandwiching that between the copper plate and aluminum finstacks with indium solder.
no they are totally a scam. every. last. one. i had one up and quit 3 days after the warranty expired. it was in pristine condition too. then when you consider that the things are ewaste in 2 years, and you cant reuse anything neatly. i cant just upgrade core components /gpu / everything else in alternating fashion every 2 years. in fact i think i have 20 years of desktop builds in the house and they all still work. that's before you consider things labeled as things they are not.
@@LordOfNihil same. Exactly the same. £2000 laptop died immediately after warranty expired.... Never buying a laptop again... i took great care of it for nothing... Now i have a PC from 2019 and works like a charm. Recently upgraded to 5700X3D and with a 3070ti feels like a brand new one.. hell i can do another gpu upgrade and prolong its life some more. I expect 10 years of usage from it before motherboard or psu fails
@@barbusbogdan7 You do need to consider the cpu bottleneck when upgrading gpus... I'd hate to see a wasteful setup running a high end recent gpu along with a 10-year-old cpu and mobo... ;)
Dude I have to say you did something that I have thought about for years and did a pretty damn good job doing it as well I love the look and the corner coming out less than perfect actually looks perfect for what it is
Aerospace Engineering Lecturer here and this has given me a brilliant idea after seeing the segment on cooling... You know those Briefcase Laptop Bags? There's always this section either side of the laptops for tools etc... Just... make the whole briefcase the laptop. Gives you room to slap in even the stock heatsinks / coolers for components, have slats you open (or bonus points for auto opening when you turn it on) to keep it weather proof...
Time truly is a flat circle You described what the first portable computers were like, and I have always wondered why that form factor totally died off. Like, I can see how it isn’t ideal for all use cases, but a portable gaming solution/heavy duty media processing machine sounds like just large enough of a niche that I can see someone trying to make it happen. Pretty much essential equipment for any RUclipsr that does a lot of traveling.
I was literally talking with someone else about how crazy this was yesterday. And I wake up to this at the top of my recommendations. Incredible. Have a good day
Wow, this is absolutely incredible! The amount of dedication, creativity, and sheer problem-solving that went into this project is mind-blowing. I love how you turned what could have been a nightmare of thermal management and compact design into something functional and unique. The copper accents and the cracked finish on the lid give it such a personal, industrial vibe-almost like a piece of art. Your humor throughout the video made the technical details even more engaging. This really challenges the norms of what a 'laptop' can be. Can’t wait to see what wild project you tackle next!
If this man can do it there's no reason those big companies can't put the same desktop level hardware in their laptop. Imagine if you can change any of the component to your own liking.
they used to do it till 1060, gtx 1060 in laptops were actual desktop cards and the battery life wasnt even that bad compared to currrent gaming laptops!
they don't because then their gaming laptops would cannibalize the sales of their desktops. they need to maintain a hierarchy within their different devices. would be cool tho
@@discerningcucumber7559 that was because the difference in power limits between laptops and desktops got bigger in Turing(desktops raised it and most laptops hadn't caught up at that point), but it wasn't Nvidia's fault, more like of laptop manufacturers for not improving cooling on time. But they were still honest GPUs, exactly the same as in desktops. And laptop 2080 was only 10-12% slower than the desktop 2080. But since 3000 series, Nvidia started scamming laptop buyers and naming laptop GPUs 1 tier above their actual desktop counterparts which often resulted in massive difference in performance. Laptop 3080 was basically slightly better binned desktop 3070.
look at Nvidia 1000 and 2000 series, they were literally that. Heck, even now 4060 is exactly the same in both laptops and desktops, and laptop 4090 has(mostly) desktop 4080 specs. They are just named wrong.
I love the idea but this is stupid lowkey. I agree with nice work but I don't think it's worth a "good shit." Making me think about tit restored my faith in the people engineering laptops, cause making a good enough battery system to support the hardware must be impossible with what batteries are capable of now and days. Need a pass through that avoids the batteries when plugged in and an automatic declock to get it to run right when switching back to the onboard battery if you want to make it portable with how much power it would consume if the specs are from brand new high end components.
Totally impressed with this. I've the attention span of a gnat yet i watched the whole thing through, even with at least 4 annoying adverts. This guy has a sense of humour as well, which makes the content even more interesting. I lost count of how many times I chuckled. Your mum inside actually made me spill my tea. This is most excellent work, buddy.
0:40 They aren't the same GPU at all, a desktop 4090 uses the AD102 chip, while the laptop 4090 uses the AD103 chip. It's actually a desktop RTX 4080, then binned, downclocked and equipped with GDDR6 instead of GDDR6X memory. But long story short, yes it's absolutely a scam by Nvidia.
It was bad enough when they just called it XXXX Mobile. Or even just XXXXm. At this point I'm seriously questioning how they're getting away with this, especially in Europe where stuff like this doesn't fly often.
As a mini pc enthuisiast, i love this, would like to see one with the batteries aswell though. Also on a gaming laptop, who ever uses the trackpad? I think a good solution to my problems is a all in one screen based pc, with a kickstand and my own keyboard and mouse, can be thicker so as to not cut off or desolder the rear mb ports. Would love to see if @socketscience will make one like that.
@eboethrasher the hinges on consumer model lenovos are just terrible, thinkpads have largely been spared on account of being the expensive business models, but the T530 is a 2012 machine and let's just say the hinge designs on modern thinkpads have worsened quite a bit in those 12 years
You can use up to 15% of water or water-alcohol mix on petrol engines and they will still work somewhat normal. With proper tuning you can even run more boost/ keep timing advanced as the mixture lowers intake temps nicely when evaporating. The answer to most engine problems has been literally vodka since before leaded fuel was invented. But then what would DuPont, GM and some mining company sell. Profit margin was more important than health to them. Then NOx emissions were a big talk... turns out you could halve them by just using a bunch of water.
Nvidia wouldn't allow him. desktop GPUs are better value because Nvidia are trying to scam laptop buyers by naming laptop GPUs 1 tier above what they actually are. Laptop 4090 is basically a desktop 4080 with slower memory and lower power limits, other than that they are exactly the same GPUs. But if they called it a 4080 they wouldn't be able to sell it for 4090 prices, now would they?
@@TabalugaDragon its just naming thing, its not that serious and gaming laptops are made for those that want portable power so its good for knowing the level of power you are buying and basically gives you a general idea of what to expect. For people like me that travel globally and I have a 4080 laptop, im not disappointed. I personally have owned two DTR laptops with desktop internals and ive given the same argument that those laptops are out of the price range of pretty much everyone except people like me that have the spare money to afford them. I bought one with dual 2080s and a 9900k and 128gb of ddr 4 ram and at times even with one 200w 2080 OC i was either on par or beating a desktop counterpart and when I used freesli I would destroy the desktop side on benchmarks.
@@prodigy455 naming makes worse value is what I'm saying. 4090M would be way cheaper if it was called a 4080. But due to high end name it has according pricing. And desktop 4060 ti 16GB and 4070 basically don't exist in laptops at all due to Nvidia's greed, because they are best value GPUs.
@@TabalugaDragon I still get the issue, if someone is buying a laptop then they should know theres sacrifice in performance and that branding just means as for the 4090 that you are getting the best of what they could put in it, even if means its only slightly better. Im glad they dont make multiple names because theres already more than enough. Its like the 4080 in my laptop, its a 4080 in mobile form, its plays everything I want and I can edit videos no issue. I just dont get people being upset about a name when whatever gpu delivers and if people cant afford the latest and greatest then theirs budget laptops that work just fine.
10:49 my gaming laptop lasts 6-8 hours on battery during office tasks, browsing, watching movies etc. So even if you're not gaming, you'd carry a huge, bulky charger with you anyway? Interesting.
@@qoloc You probably have your Nvidia GPU enabled all the time. Switch to iGPU(Intel integrated GPU) and it'll last much longer(either using Alienware software or bios). Ryzen laptops last up to 2 times longer on battery though, some even reach 10-11 hours, like Asus TUF A15 with 90 watt hour battery.
@@qoloc you can always select the desired GPU for each game in Nvidia control enter or Nvidia app. So Nvidia GPU would only work when you are playing games and the laptop would use a low power iGPU when you're doing non-demanding tasks like browsing.
This is incredible man! Also I always keep my laptop plugged in and removed my battery. Batteries in laptops will bulge over time so removing it makes more sense or not having one at all. You need to have your own custom laptop company. I know this took 14 months but imagine a stream line process with parts you know will work after trial and error like this 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 massive kudos man
i know this is not going to sound as much of a praise but it truly is: this is a dude i would let build me a pc i haven't trust anyone to build my machine since the 80s but this dude, he gets me
It would be great to see how this pc performs in terms of temps, could you test it with heavy load maybe in another vid?? Pretty interested in this project though you did incredible job and i'm speechless...
Thanks for proper captions❤❤ Its still missing for a few of the memes/gags but thats fine imo. Honestly baffles me that much larger channels put no effort into this.
You are on another level. Thank you for being awesome. Next time you feel like a complete failure remember how much you blessed all of us with this actual modern masterpiece.
Wow! I was planning to build a much more bulky version of this that would house a desktop gpu with its stock cooler, using the fans as intake. Very fun to see that somebody else made a more elegant version even if it is not as upgradable/repairable.
As a pc, cellphone, tablet, console, drone, laptop, repair dude I can say this is amazing, there's little that wasn't accommodated for and accomplished. I'm curious about the os and drivers. I'm more familiar with hardware rather than software.
Good job. You put a lot of work into this, and the results are amazing ! As for the names of laptop CPUs and GPUs - they have the M affix, which allows the manufacturer to legally reduce their performance. And if someone is looking for a laptop with real desktop CPU and GPU, I recommend Alienware, or at least they used to have them before Dell took over.
Let me start with wow, well done. When I first saw this video I didn't realize when you say "My DIY gaming Laptop" that you meant to say you actually MADE your own Laptop so major Kudos for that. As the video begins I thought you just hollowed out some old Laptop and stuffed it with other Laptop Parts; but no, you made EVERYTHING and that's impressive to say the least. You've redefended laptop making and if anything exposed Laptops as the frauds they are for charging what they do. Of course your design in not perfect only a fool would expect it would be; but the foundation is solid. You may morph into making custom laptop cases that folks can add their own parts to or something like that. At the very least you're proving Laptops are serious money makers for those that produce them. If you can make this, I'd venture to say it's much cheaper then if you buy something already made. Of course R and D are astronomical but that's way it's called R and D because it's Research and Development and not Final Product. Now that you have a blue print I'm sure you can reproduce this and make a 2.0 version/flavor much easier and much cheaper now that you have all, or at the very least most, of the bugs worked out. Overall this is great to see someone do such a thing as I'm sure you're giving inspiration to others to DYI their own Laptop. I've tried making PC Cases over the decades and failed every time because I could not reproduce a PC Case cheaper then what I could just buy one for. regardless of what materials I would use. Again Major Kudos, this is a great project and I look forward to seeing what you get into next... Cheer's...
Hi, to facilitate the sanding, use a rectangular piece of wood, tighten your sand paper band along the wood length and use 4 pins (2 on each side of the wood height) to keep it in place, it is mush better for flat surfaces (keeps them real flat). Nice contraption ;-)
This is one of the best DIY concepts I've ever seen, executed by an ignoramus who thinks JB weld is thermally conductive enough to substitute for precision machining, brazing and indium soldering. I would have soldered or brazed heatpipes to the copper plates and aluminum heatsinks and then cast it into lead to simulate heatpipes properly fitted into a production heatsink with precision machining. His solution results in a woefully insufficient thermal conduction path. He wanted something better than an off the shelf solution and convinced himself he was doing just that, when it isn't actually the case. I can almost guarantee that factory produced solutions, while they might not have fit the case, would have cooled better.
I really like what you did here. Iv'e always wanted to do something similar. I wanted to create a case just like the laptops in Cyberpunk 2077. If you wanted a quick easy way to add ports to the "laptop" you could purchase a USB docking station which would only need 1 connection and would provide, usb, hdmi / display port, card reader and more. It would be cool to see you add a battery in the future. Great work!
I thought this was going to be a series that never finishes like all the other crazy builds, and then you uploaded the completed thing. This is very hype.
ikr he is actually a genuine person not an algorithm obsessed youtuber
Same i thought so
@@jamncheese-2024 Fr fr
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yup not like ETAPRIME whose build never finishes, it just make me mad 😅
Super impressive man, very cool!
I literally thought building laptops wasnt possible
I came from your recommendation
Yeah man has talent I see him becoming big 😀
I love you
It's the ryzen 7 5700x and Radeon RX 6750XT a good combo, I bought with them a Corsair 650w psu, and 32gb 3600mhz kit of ram. You helped me massively building my first pc thank you ❤.
bro i love how he says "built at home by an idiot"
yeah totally ironic!
bro no one cares stfu
he's not wrong.
@@eboethrasher True, coz he compare the mobile version GPU to an actual GPU that we typically use on PC. like ofc there is some drawback when using a compact ver of that specific GPU, bro didn't realize how big and powerful the 4090 compare to a laptop GPU (4090 is almost a laptop size tho HAHA). but still, this dude is nuts to make his own laptop.
@eboethrasher Spoke like the guy who didn't build himself a gaming laptop
I love how you literally build something no company ever wants to build, make it seem useless even thought it's the most portable desktop and then after going through all that, didn't even benchmark just to mark it as good enough. Savage
-diy gaming laptop❌️
-building a whole freaking improved gaming laptop✅️
honestly I'm tired just by watching this , genius and impressive work
Finally, someone answered my question: "Can you use desktop parts for a laptop?"
I mean im pretty sure alienware used to make laptops with desktop parts ages ago
Eurocom and Clevo have been doing this for years.
@@deathdrop I mean I'm pretty sure in 1000 and 2000 series Nvidia used exactly the same GPUs in both laptops and desktops.
@@TabalugaDragon no they were not the exact same
@@TabalugaDragonand i’m also pretty sure they used the desktop cpu’s too
thanks RUclips for recommending me this hidden gem of a channel
I’m still waiting for RUclips to comment np
Agreed
@@moji3812 true
Hidden gem is an understatement, much respect to all work put into setting this laptop up
There are lots of hidden gem out there and what I’m fascinated right now is customizing or building a gadget from scratch just like this one
This is awesome, and I've been waiting for someone to do this for ages. When I was in high school I spent a lot of time trying to design a DIY, "thin" laptop based around the thin-mini-itx standard. I've been planning on revamping my design for years, but there were just some things I couldn't figure out how to do well enough, mostly cooling related. If I ever get to it, I definitely will return to this vid. Thanks!
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8:15 Ahh yes, *Duracell Laptop*
LMAOOO
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The '90s Toshiba laptops I have are 'Duracell Laptops', or 'Energizer Laptops' if you live in the US. Energizer invented the 'Energizer Bunny' that just keeps going and going and then, before Energizer could trademark it globally, Duracell stole the concept. So in the UK, when I lived there in the '90s, I thought it was strange when I saw my first 'Duracell Bunny' advert.
Anyway, they keep going and going. This homemade laptop will probably cook itself to death within a few years.
@@Lurch-Bot duracell bunny certainly looks like a ripoff. like a freakish little pink thing. the energizer bunny looks professionally designed.
this dude is making things that high budget companies dont, mad respact bro
Cheat code: JW H610i-P motherboard. It is a board that natively takes 18-20v and has a 160w modular GPU power header. It also lays the video card down flat off the top of the board with no risers. There is also another cheaper (80 vs 100-140) board that only has 120w power for a video card. Either way, simpler. Nice job finishing the project! Looks great.
I think he mentioned something like that in the last video and said it was too rare to be reliably upgradable.
That's sick! Is there any video of anyone doing anything with it??
there are also slim ITX motherboards, he wouldnt have needed to hack the back IO off to make it fit.
I also make a custom from scratch laptop, it was a difficult task. I designed cnc (aluminium chassis every single pars)
@@mikejaques4702will there be a video about this?
Things I learned from this project series:
-JB Weld is OP af
It's the duct tape for serious builders 😤
Right???? 😂
rome could've been built in a day if they had jb weld
This is probably one of the more successful uses of JB weld I've ever seen. It is one of the most widely misused products in the world.
Amazed that it actually runs. A couple of things.
1. You are brave sir to trust the structure of this thing to 3d printed parts heat-welded together. An aluminum frame would go a long way to making it stronger, but it does seem to hold together for now.
2. Usually, heat-pipes are brazed together with their heat-sinks, but if it works it works.
3. Totally understand the battery bit. Granted, without a battery I donno if it's still a "laptop" but overall it's kinda insane that this idea worked at all.
It's still a portable one at very least
Posting for safety
Do not try to use regular solder or high temp brazing on sintered heatpipes. Use proper solder with REALLY LOW MELTING POINT.
The stuff manufacturers use goes liquid before leaded will soften. Severely oveheated vapour chamber will swell, might even burst.
It could work for a socket science laptop gen 2
The battery situation would be solved pretty easily with power tool batteries, since they are self-contained and have built in bms
The first laptops and portables in the 80s often required wall power
This is really History in the making....Dude really brought in a heck of a revolution......Now just as Armstrong once said "One small step of a man is one giant leap for mankind"....Dude literally proves it true......
Congratulations to the youtuber who posted the first ever "Gaming Laptop Build" on RUclips and through his contribution....I can say that the day in not far behind when one will be able to build his/her own custom laptop.....And all this started from here.......
A grand hatsoff to you......
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What a genius engineering. Great work mate 👍👍
Yeah, if Forrest Gump were considered a genius engineer. OP doesn't even know how to properly de-solder some ports on a MB. This should have used hybrid Peltier/forced air cooling with PTM7950 as the TIM.
When you put a desktop GPU in something like this, you had better be monitoring hot spot temp because the overall board temp sensor will likely run a lot cooler than it would with the heatsink and shroud on it. There's probably a 30C differential between the 'GPU Temp' and the hot spot, when it is usually around 10C for normal use with a desktop RX 6600. I also don't think he even came close to properly cooling the VRAM. You can always undervolt the core without much performance loss but the VRAM must be adequately cooled because it will end up using more power than the GPU die in a GPU like this. He needed a large copper plate clamped to the board which covers both the die and VRM as the primary heat spreader. There also needed to be double the number of heat pipes, which should have been brazed to the copper plate and then cast into lead. On the finstack side, the heatpipes should have been soldered to the aluminum with indium and then cast into lead. The thermal conduction path cross sectional area is far too small. JB weld is completely insufficient for thermal transfer in this application and he might as well have duct taped everything together.
If I can't properly cool a large desktop replacement gaming laptop with a 10300H that draws a max of 25W and a 1650Ti that draws a max of 50W, he's screwed. His abomination will be drawing more than double that, with ad-hoc coolers that won't be anywhere near as effective as a factory cooling solution because of the half-assed way it was built. Go Peltier or go home.
Would love to see a video which goes into a bit of the specifics and your testing on it! Like playing games and showing us its performance and temps.
I second this
Read my mind
This. As well as a a better look at the final build itself. Do a 360 on the laptop and whatnot.
They've gotta be planning a followup video. No way they'd go through the process of making that custom cooling solution and not show off how well it performs.
Me too
Theres 2 major things i take away from this project. 1 being the amount of time designing and planning this took, which many people fail to realize. 2 just how competitive a retail version of something like this could be. I like the idea of gaming laptops and their portability, but at the end of the day, they have miniscule upgradability and are generally very overpriced compared to their desktop counterparts. With that being said, i applaud this build and keep up the awesome work!
There were a few gaming laptops with desktop hardware a few years ago but you can imagine how well those sold. We do have 18in laptops that are massive but even then they look thin compared to those
@@crestofhonor2349Yeah the Area-51M line of laptops from Alienware are probably the most notable. They had actual desktop CPUs and the GPUs were higher tdp variants (in the R2 at least, the 2080 super could use 200 watts). They were actually pretty good but the upgradability wasn't amazing, and Alienware pretty quickly abandoned it. Intel just changes sockets too often to warrant the high price too, AMD would've been a much better option
@@crestofhonor2349 - A lot of people just want portable gaming desktops though. That said, it MIGHT be possible to get the best of both worlds - battery life and gaming performance, by using a hybrid system with an arm based Raspberry pi, so you're technically carrying two computers instead of just the one, and they link together for sharing data.
@crestofhonor2349 fair enough, much like itx pc's, this would definitely be a niche product but it's definitely a concept I can get behind. Either way as a one of one custom project it's pretty awesome.
Framework laptops seem like the best option however the cost is just too high.
The best thing of this laptop is you uploaded all progress in one video. And trust me, when I didn’t see any “EP” thing in title, I didn’t skip a second.
Same
What's an ep thing?
@@MrGamelover23episode
this is part 2, if u check the channel there was a part 1
Honestly, this feels alike the results of a "If I cannot find it, I shall do it myself", and its quite impressive! Congrats, definately earned a subscriber.
This has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever come across. I've always wondered if something like this was possible, I'm glad you bought it into reality. Mad respect for your patience and effort on this build!
Tip: You can use solder to put the heat pipes and heatsinks together with no performance loss
There's no point, just get silver solder and look around for a business that does silver soldering locally. You support a local, and you get exactly what you want with 100% performance AND resilience. Solder can break from stress, silver solder ... does too, when you put a lever on it.
Brazing is better, and not much more difficult. The aluminium finstacks should be attached to the copper blocks with indium and the heatpipes should be brazed to the copper blocks for best results. But he really should have gone with PTM7950 and hybrid Peltier cooling.
The best solution here would have been to cast the heatpipes into a thin lead block and sandwiching that between the copper plate and aluminum finstacks with indium solder.
You Mad Man i thought he would break this into like 20 episodes after the first one but he just uploaded it all and finished it in 2 episodes
0:47 laptops arent scam.. nvidia naming is
no they are totally a scam. every. last. one.
i had one up and quit 3 days after the warranty expired. it was in pristine condition too.
then when you consider that the things are ewaste in 2 years, and you cant reuse anything neatly.
i cant just upgrade core components /gpu / everything else in alternating fashion every 2 years.
in fact i think i have 20 years of desktop builds in the house and they all still work.
that's before you consider things labeled as things they are not.
Could just use a mini PC, egpu, portable monitor, mouse, and keyboard
@@LordOfNihil same. Exactly the same. £2000 laptop died immediately after warranty expired....
Never buying a laptop again... i took great care of it for nothing...
Now i have a PC from 2019 and works like a charm. Recently upgraded to 5700X3D and with a 3070ti feels like a brand new one.. hell i can do another gpu upgrade and prolong its life some more. I expect 10 years of usage from it before motherboard or psu fails
@@barbusbogdan7 You do need to consider the cpu bottleneck when upgrading gpus... I'd hate to see a wasteful setup running a high end recent gpu along with a 10-year-old cpu and mobo... ;)
@@barbusbogdan7 what laptop it was? I got hp omen with 3070 and an older y530 legion and got no issues..I also of course got a desktop gaming pc
The algorithm doing you justice sir, got a new subscriber 🙌🏾
Dude I have to say you did something that I have thought about for years and did a pretty damn good job doing it as well I love the look and the corner coming out less than perfect actually looks perfect for what it is
Aerospace Engineering Lecturer here and this has given me a brilliant idea after seeing the segment on cooling...
You know those Briefcase Laptop Bags? There's always this section either side of the laptops for tools etc...
Just... make the whole briefcase the laptop. Gives you room to slap in even the stock heatsinks / coolers for components, have slats you open (or bonus points for auto opening when you turn it on) to keep it weather proof...
And all of a sudden, the laptop isn't much of a laptop anymore.
@@eboethrasher probably? But a portable pc sounds dope. And I can't hear you over the sound of my Solidworks booting up 😂
People already do this with pelican cases look on sffpc forums
Time truly is a flat circle
You described what the first portable computers were like, and I have always wondered why that form factor totally died off.
Like, I can see how it isn’t ideal for all use cases, but a portable gaming solution/heavy duty media processing machine sounds like just large enough of a niche that I can see someone trying to make it happen.
Pretty much essential equipment for any RUclipsr that does a lot of traveling.
Just use a flight case instead.
i always wanted to see a custom laptop build and never found a video about that , then you came, this series is better than most bigger creators
I was literally talking with someone else about how crazy this was yesterday. And I wake up to this at the top of my recommendations. Incredible. Have a good day
Its because our phones are listening.
as an electrician i want to try this for myself. gonna be quite the experience.
Wow, this is absolutely incredible! The amount of dedication, creativity, and sheer problem-solving that went into this project is mind-blowing. I love how you turned what could have been a nightmare of thermal management and compact design into something functional and unique.
The copper accents and the cracked finish on the lid give it such a personal, industrial vibe-almost like a piece of art. Your humor throughout the video made the technical details even more engaging.
This really challenges the norms of what a 'laptop' can be. Can’t wait to see what wild project you tackle next!
I loved the last vid and i love this one as well. His videos are top notch when it comes to quality. Socket Science deserves more views and subs.
If this man can do it there's no reason those big companies can't put the same desktop level hardware in their laptop. Imagine if you can change any of the component to your own liking.
they used to do it till 1060, gtx 1060 in laptops were actual desktop cards and the battery life wasnt even that bad compared to currrent gaming laptops!
they don't because then their gaming laptops would cannibalize the sales of their desktops. they need to maintain a hierarchy within their different devices. would be cool tho
@@discerningcucumber7559 the whole 1000 and 2000 series were, actually, including 1070 and 1080.
@@TabalugaDragon i though the 2000 series was underpowered compared to it's desktop counterpart!
@@discerningcucumber7559 that was because the difference in power limits between laptops and desktops got bigger in Turing(desktops raised it and most laptops hadn't caught up at that point), but it wasn't Nvidia's fault, more like of laptop manufacturers for not improving cooling on time. But they were still honest GPUs, exactly the same as in desktops. And laptop 2080 was only 10-12% slower than the desktop 2080. But since 3000 series, Nvidia started scamming laptop buyers and naming laptop GPUs 1 tier above their actual desktop counterparts which often resulted in massive difference in performance. Laptop 3080 was basically slightly better binned desktop 3070.
I always had the idea to do a laptop with desktop parts in my head
They do exist
look at Nvidia 1000 and 2000 series, they were literally that. Heck, even now 4060 is exactly the same in both laptops and desktops, and laptop 4090 has(mostly) desktop 4080 specs. They are just named wrong.
@@TabalugaDragon I was meaning like creating a project like him in the video
@@_frayzzen there are laptops like that. You can get slightly older laptops with desktop grade CPU and GPUs. They never sold well though
@@crestofhonor2349 guys i think this is santa claus ^^^
Nice work!
No comments is wild
I love the idea but this is stupid lowkey. I agree with nice work but I don't think it's worth a "good shit." Making me think about tit restored my faith in the people engineering laptops, cause making a good enough battery system to support the hardware must be impossible with what batteries are capable of now and days. Need a pass through that avoids the batteries when plugged in and an automatic declock to get it to run right when switching back to the onboard battery if you want to make it portable with how much power it would consume if the specs are from brand new high end components.
Totally impressed with this. I've the attention span of a gnat yet i watched the whole thing through, even with at least 4 annoying adverts. This guy has a sense of humour as well, which makes the content even more interesting. I lost count of how many times I chuckled. Your mum inside actually made me spill my tea. This is most excellent work, buddy.
This guy deserves 100k subs
"your mom inside" might be the greatest thing ever. I legit busted out laughing at work hahaha
Such a 'we have Framework at home' vibe. I guarantee this guy has mommy issues.
0:40 They aren't the same GPU at all, a desktop 4090 uses the AD102 chip, while the laptop 4090 uses the AD103 chip. It's actually a desktop RTX 4080, then binned, downclocked and equipped with GDDR6 instead of GDDR6X memory. But long story short, yes it's absolutely a scam by Nvidia.
It's not a scam it's a buisness practice, in the industry we call it a feature
@@darrenstone3406 ew
It was bad enough when they just called it XXXX Mobile. Or even just XXXXm. At this point I'm seriously questioning how they're getting away with this, especially in Europe where stuff like this doesn't fly often.
@@Hendlton I feel if you could put those things in a desktop they'd run as expected
His point still stands, is NOT a rtx 4090 🤷
This is the coolest thing i have seen for months !! I admire you bud.
If he keeps making content like this the channel will easily blow up to 1 mil subs.
ITX enthusiasts will either be fuming or loving this lol
As a mini pc enthuisiast, i love this, would like to see one with the batteries aswell though. Also on a gaming laptop, who ever uses the trackpad? I think a good solution to my problems is a all in one screen based pc, with a kickstand and my own keyboard and mouse, can be thicker so as to not cut off or desolder the rear mb ports. Would love to see if @socketscience will make one like that.
Your hinge design will still hold up better than an Acer Nitro lol
But not better than Lenovo ThinkPad T530 series (2012). Just saying. I've had mine for 5 years and the hinges still work like new.
@@mikestanley9176 Yeah obviously not. But most modern gaming laptop hinges (specifically the Acer Nitro and MSI laptops) have hinge problems.
@@mikestanley9176 Funny, I had a lenovo before that and there could have been a class action lawsuit from how many people had fucked up hinges.
or H.P.
Hinge problem
@eboethrasher the hinges on consumer model lenovos are just terrible, thinkpads have largely been spared on account of being the expensive business models, but the T530 is a 2012 machine and let's just say the hinge designs on modern thinkpads have worsened quite a bit in those 12 years
4:27 You could have soldered them together! perfect for durability and heat transfer.
Happy that youtube suggested this hardwork and awesomeness to me
I wanted to do this years ago with a 9700k. Didn't even think about a gpu. Really great work you've done here!
0:45 only reason their limited like that is bc temperature, they legally cant let a laptop go above a certain temp to prevent burns
legally?
@@notsosian1161 yes?
if you're planning on making a water-powered car just remember what happened to the last guy
fr
damn true tho
You can use up to 15% of water or water-alcohol mix on petrol engines and they will still work somewhat normal.
With proper tuning you can even run more boost/ keep timing advanced as the mixture lowers intake temps nicely when evaporating.
The answer to most engine problems has been literally vodka since before leaded fuel was invented. But then what would DuPont, GM and some mining company sell.
Profit margin was more important than health to them.
Then NOx emissions were a big talk... turns out you could halve them by just using a bunch of water.
yeah dude careful
my first thought when i finished the vid, hope he stays anon
maybe this video could help: Powering a Mini PC with Lithium Battery using a DC-DC Step up converter
This thing is not a candidate for battery power. This uses like 4-5 times the power of a mini.
Awesome video! I could watch this all day, I was sad when it was over.
My friend and i planned to do this thing i while ago with lower end parts this is one of my dream thank u so mutch for making it
nah baking soda car engine gonna be funny as hell
0:09 countless curse words 💀💀💀💀
I don't get why you would reply to that part.
@@Gaetano.94 coz it's funny bro
12 year old?
@@NeoEarthCollectibles wdym
@@CYB3R_Officials Because it's something that a 12-year-old would probably find funny, but pretty much no one else who has any more maturity
6:29 Every time he says "and then i used JBWeld to secure it" he had my full attention 😅
it's super talented people like you that inspire me to diy every day.. my dream is one day reaching your heights
2:07 I love Vice Grip Garage! Great channel.
2:08 I thought it was an ad😂
hear me out , you should become a laptop manufacturer , you look smarter than whoever designs modern laptops nowadays , you got a real shot at it.
This is the strangest comment here lol
Nvidia wouldn't allow him. desktop GPUs are better value because Nvidia are trying to scam laptop buyers by naming laptop GPUs 1 tier above what they actually are. Laptop 4090 is basically a desktop 4080 with slower memory and lower power limits, other than that they are exactly the same GPUs. But if they called it a 4080 they wouldn't be able to sell it for 4090 prices, now would they?
@@TabalugaDragon its just naming thing, its not that serious and gaming laptops are made for those that want portable power so its good for knowing the level of power you are buying and basically gives you a general idea of what to expect. For people like me that travel globally and I have a 4080 laptop, im not disappointed. I personally have owned two DTR laptops with desktop internals and ive given the same argument that those laptops are out of the price range of pretty much everyone except people like me that have the spare money to afford them. I bought one with dual 2080s and a 9900k and 128gb of ddr 4 ram and at times even with one 200w 2080 OC i was either on par or beating a desktop counterpart and when I used freesli I would destroy the desktop side on benchmarks.
@@prodigy455 naming makes worse value is what I'm saying. 4090M would be way cheaper if it was called a 4080. But due to high end name it has according pricing. And desktop 4060 ti 16GB and 4070 basically don't exist in laptops at all due to Nvidia's greed, because they are best value GPUs.
@@TabalugaDragon I still get the issue, if someone is buying a laptop then they should know theres sacrifice in performance and that branding just means as for the 4090 that you are getting the best of what they could put in it, even if means its only slightly better. Im glad they dont make multiple names because theres already more than enough. Its like the 4080 in my laptop, its a 4080 in mobile form, its plays everything I want and I can edit videos no issue. I just dont get people being upset about a name when whatever gpu delivers and if people cant afford the latest and greatest then theirs budget laptops that work just fine.
10:22 but connectors hehe
This deserves way more than 500k views. Great job
Wow it turned out good. Itll perform better than most other morden laptops. I subbed. Im gonna wait for the future plans.
10:49 my gaming laptop lasts 6-8 hours on battery during office tasks, browsing, watching movies etc. So even if you're not gaming, you'd carry a huge, bulky charger with you anyway? Interesting.
How do you make your gaming laptop last that long. Longest I can do is around 1-2 hours. I have the Alienware x17 R2 with a 3070ti and an i9 12900h.
@@qoloc You probably have your Nvidia GPU enabled all the time. Switch to iGPU(Intel integrated GPU) and it'll last much longer(either using Alienware software or bios). Ryzen laptops last up to 2 times longer on battery though, some even reach 10-11 hours, like Asus TUF A15 with 90 watt hour battery.
@@TabalugaDragon that’s true I usually don’t have it enabled because it will swap to it when I’m playing games
@@qoloc you can always select the desired GPU for each game in Nvidia control enter or Nvidia app. So Nvidia GPU would only work when you are playing games and the laptop would use a low power iGPU when you're doing non-demanding tasks like browsing.
9:00 slay queen
bro did what framework couldn’t
Amazing job man, I've always wondered what it would take to do this and don't think I'd have the patience or brains to finish such a project.
I really appreciate your time and effort, I think with a little bit sanding and polishing it will turn out great
LOL, butt connecter.
0:26 like me
Real
Same same 🍻
This is wild. It turned out way better than I thought it would and still looks fairly thin. You got a sub from me!
This is incredible man! Also I always keep my laptop plugged in and removed my battery. Batteries in laptops will bulge over time so removing it makes more sense or not having one at all. You need to have your own custom laptop company. I know this took 14 months but imagine a stream line process with parts you know will work after trial and error like this 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 massive kudos man
i know this is not going to sound as much of a praise but it truly is:
this is a dude i would let build me a pc
i haven't trust anyone to build my machine since the 80s but this dude, he gets me
ztt just made a short on this, cool to see you given a shoutout by big youtubers
It would be great to see how this pc performs in terms of temps, could you test it with heavy load maybe in another vid?? Pretty interested in this project though you did incredible job and i'm speechless...
Thanks for proper captions❤❤
Its still missing for a few of the memes/gags but thats fine imo.
Honestly baffles me that much larger channels put no effort into this.
This guy is the definition of done is better than perfect
this is where creative and talent combined! keep it up bro!
You are on another level. Thank you for being awesome. Next time you feel like a complete failure remember how much you blessed all of us with this actual modern masterpiece.
Amazing work bro, i would buy it without even blinking...
HATS OFF BRO
This is super cool. Keep on being creative and sharing your work.
Wow! I was planning to build a much more bulky version of this that would house a desktop gpu with its stock cooler, using the fans as intake. Very fun to see that somebody else made a more elegant version even if it is not as upgradable/repairable.
how the heck this channel haven't had 1 million subs?? this is awesome man
What i got from this video - "a man that has nothing to lose, has nothing to fear" or "Trial and error breeds Innovation"
every tip you shared is a gem, thanks for being so generous!
your channel is a staple for anyone looking to learn with fun!
As a pc, cellphone, tablet, console, drone, laptop, repair dude I can say this is amazing, there's little that wasn't accommodated for and accomplished. I'm curious about the os and drivers. I'm more familiar with hardware rather than software.
I'm surprised that the person who uploaded this objectively amazing video doesn't have over 1 million subscribers yet.
This project was absolutely fantastic, amazing work dude!
Can’t wait to see what else you make 😁👍🏻
Amazing work, congrats ❤
Aaaand now for the benchmarks!
i’m always excited to see your new videos, they’re fantastic!
yooo, for a diy project this is insane... well done brother
Good job. You put a lot of work into this, and the results are amazing !
As for the names of laptop CPUs and GPUs - they have the M affix, which allows the manufacturer to legally reduce their performance.
And if someone is looking for a laptop with real desktop CPU and GPU, I recommend Alienware, or at least they used to have them before Dell took over.
Let me start with wow, well done. When I first saw this video I didn't realize when you say "My DIY gaming Laptop" that you meant to say you actually MADE your own Laptop so major Kudos for that. As the video begins I thought you just hollowed out some old Laptop and stuffed it with other Laptop Parts; but no, you made EVERYTHING and that's impressive to say the least. You've redefended laptop making and if anything exposed Laptops as the frauds they are for charging what they do. Of course your design in not perfect only a fool would expect it would be; but the foundation is solid. You may morph into making custom laptop cases that folks can add their own parts to or something like that. At the very least you're proving Laptops are serious money makers for those that produce them. If you can make this, I'd venture to say it's much cheaper then if you buy something already made. Of course R and D are astronomical but that's way it's called R and D because it's Research and Development and not Final Product. Now that you have a blue print I'm sure you can reproduce this and make a 2.0 version/flavor much easier and much cheaper now that you have all, or at the very least most, of the bugs worked out. Overall this is great to see someone do such a thing as I'm sure you're giving inspiration to others to DYI their own Laptop. I've tried making PC Cases over the decades and failed every time because I could not reproduce a PC Case cheaper then what I could just buy one for. regardless of what materials I would use. Again Major Kudos, this is a great project and I look forward to seeing what you get into next... Cheer's...
Hi, to facilitate the sanding, use a rectangular piece of wood, tighten your sand paper band along the wood length and use 4 pins (2 on each side of the wood height) to keep it in place, it is mush better for flat surfaces (keeps them real flat).
Nice contraption ;-)
Perfect upgradability score for all components
You mad man! You're telling me there's a whole series on this. Awesome.
This is one of the best diy projects I've ever seen
This is one of the best DIY concepts I've ever seen, executed by an ignoramus who thinks JB weld is thermally conductive enough to substitute for precision machining, brazing and indium soldering. I would have soldered or brazed heatpipes to the copper plates and aluminum heatsinks and then cast it into lead to simulate heatpipes properly fitted into a production heatsink with precision machining. His solution results in a woefully insufficient thermal conduction path. He wanted something better than an off the shelf solution and convinced himself he was doing just that, when it isn't actually the case. I can almost guarantee that factory produced solutions, while they might not have fit the case, would have cooled better.
Such an incredible build. Truly impressive!
Man, exactly what I need! I don't have enough money to allow myself for making mistakes, but a portable desktop is a dream of mine!
I really like what you did here. Iv'e always wanted to do something similar. I wanted to create a case just like the laptops in Cyberpunk 2077. If you wanted a quick easy way to add ports to the "laptop" you could purchase a USB docking station which would only need 1 connection and would provide, usb, hdmi / display port, card reader and more. It would be cool to see you add a battery in the future. Great work!
Nice job brother!
Give this man proper tools! Im hoping this chanell Will become next "diy perks" chanell