Neil Godfrey there was a guy with 8/7off also involved. So it is less possible to hit the set, though he obviously hit his set. He also wanted to make the preflop-potsize bigger because of this.
I don't think he's cheating. I think he's meditating when he stares at his lap like that, and derives the best move from the cosmos. My proof? Geez, he wins all the time!!!
this guy should've watch negreanu's masterclass doesn't he know that everything at the table conveys information especially looking at your crotch in the middle of a hand
Just be sure you DO NOT SKIP the "How to Flop Sets and River Quads" module in the later stages of Core Lab concepts. Another gem is guest coach Berkey's "Thinking Outside the Solar System, Let Alone The Box" module is a must for dealing with unconventional players such as Postle. Finally, Chicago Joey's "2-Card PLO: The Essential Guide to Reverse Blockers, Quadruple-Merge Ranges and Making the Most of Backdoor Quad Draws" rounds out some spectacular Lab content.
If you know statistics and probability, you know what he does is impossible without some sort of "extra" tool not eligible to all other players. If you accept that every system/process has an output and it's output (in this case winning at cards) follows a bell curve, and you see that you have an outlier from the bell curve, you know something isn't right, that there is a special cause. The use of phones and electronic devices have become so proliferated at various casino poker rooms that I haven't walked into a poker room in over 1 year for a cash game or tournament over $50. There are just too many ways to cheat now that the casino allows. This too is interesting, because basically a lot of these same casinos ABSOLUTELY DONT allow these devices when you're playing at their house games (against the house card games). Hmmm, this speaks volumes to me that they allow this differentiation to occur within the same casino. Wonder why?
Hes pressing his bone induction headphones closer to his head so he can hear what to do. If you see the photos of his hat when he plays you can see there is something hidden in his hat. Bone induction headphones connected via bluetooth he thinks hes fucking genius
honestly he woudlnt even need headphones, all anyone has to do is communicate to him a few simple details like "strong, weak, bluff". He could have a device that just thumps or vibrates a certain way for each scenario, then let mike decide how he wants to approach.
This. 100%. Presses them whennhe doesnt hears very well. Hence the commentators recapping everything so literally. He presses his cap always the same way. The chat to his accomplice is the general status. Not the hand. It s do more. Do less. Lose.money next hand. The audio is what gives the god mode. The hive mind can.figure everything out. From tbe globalist agenda to enslave us all to this alleged scam. This is almost too easy. Where we go one we go all.
I think there's something to the hat speculation. He may either be adjusting the headset or it is a signal to his accomplice to send information on his opponents hand. It happens much too often in key spots.
interesting. Doug needs to see if he was all-knowing on the hands from is collage, if you will, and mention what his accuracy percentage is for those hands. got me curious, dt. good observation
@@maybenot7298 The headset is supposed to go in front of your ear, so yeah, he's probably having issues hearing. Pushing it on his skull probably helps with resonance. But he also uses the move to look less suspicious when he looks at his crotch. After every crotch stare he will grab the tip of the cap to signal he understood and often look into the camera to his left, probably to communicate with his accomplice.
With only one or two exceptions none of these hands really stand out as impossible. It’s when you put them all together that the cheating simply becomes undeniable.
It struck me as odd that the commentators so heavily sound like hype men for Postle. Until I realized they're giving him all the pertinent information he needs and also telling him exactly what to do.
Yes, 30 minutes after the hand ends. I don't think Postle has a time machine in his lap. I don't think the commentators were in on this at all - they're just humans trying to make sense of Postle crushing it, night after night. He had the hole cards in his lap. The only question to me is whether that was configured by somebody on the inside, or by Postle himself.
@@iamamish it’s got to have been done by someone on the inside, tbf it might not have anything to do with commentary, but if your that used to Mike making godly reads like this and are so confidant he is going to fold then they themselves should be suspecting this shit and the fact that they just continue to play the ‘mikes a god card’ just makes it more suspect.
@@ctom6068 2 points: 1. I don't really fault the commentators. By most measures they weren't fantastic poker players, and when you see Mike do this day after day, you're not thinking he's cheating. 2. I agree re: inside job but a few things to ponder. A. we know from Veronica that JFK had the live stream on his phone (not the delayed one), so it was broadcasting, and it was a generally known. B. Postle had info on his LinkedIn that suggested he helped set up the live stream originally. He deleted his LinkedIn page the day after the accusations were made public (which imo is quite suspicious). C. There was zero security around the peek room, and it would have been quite easy for Postle to gain access and figure out what the stream URL was
@@iamamish yeah good points tbf, that definitely makes sense and I do remember hearing that. However you'd have thought the commentary team would have a good enough understanding of poker to realise the plays he is making are completely impossible. They are commentating poker at the end of the day. It doesn't take long to have a basic understanding of it and I'm sure some people started to click on. Didn't the guy have like 60 consecutive winning sessions. I just can't get my head round how everyone who watches these videos can immediately almost guarantee that he is cheating but the commentary team couldn't figure it out over 60 consecutive winning sessions. Doesn't really make sense to me.
@@ctom6068 yeah I think though that if you're not an expert, you're just trying to make sense of what you're seeing. You assume Postle just gets great reads. You've heard that he crushed online poker (of course, nobody actually knew that - Postle just told people). Never underestimate the power of humans to come up with explanations for things they're seeing that otherwise don't make sense.
What if you don't look at your cards at all, then start firing? I'm just wondering what would happen if you do that. Would it just mind fuck him, or what?
This hand is a pure pure mistake by postle. I think when he started cheating the game he set rules for himself like accepting coolers, make -ev plays, etc. But greed is a powerfull drug and postle addiction to it makes him fold here. This hand made it clear for me that postle is cheating, thanks for pointing this one out Polk!
The simplest solution is usually the correct one. One text = call Two text = raise Three text = fold. Someone in the commentary room could be texting him. Doesnt even have to read the phone.
I love getting to watch this all unfold from the sidelines! I hope that this shows people that no matter what, you WILL get caught if you cheat! Can't wait to find out how deep this rabbit hole goes!
Boski how do you feel playing against this guy in sessions and not coming out on the v positive side? Have you gone back and rewatched your sessions at stones?
I would really like to know how many people were in this together. I don't believe that everyone including commentators were included, there is just to big of a risk that someone would spill the beans, and there is not enough money to go around, 250k is a lit, but when you divide it by 5, 6, 7,..... It doesn't sound so attractive any more.
it doesnt even have to be someone in the booth who can see cards. Someone could have hidden a camera in that room and is standing around outside. Or just has a backdoor to the system (this would allow the casino to blame outside party to maintain reputation).
@@codmott286 Sure, maybe has just has a signal receivers in his keys and he is intercepting the signal from RFID reader built in to poker table, but my guess is that TD must be working with him. I think they should inform the gaming commission and police before going public, so that they could catch them red handed.
Bluetooth Bone conduction Headset in a Hat. the microphone is located inside the Bill/RIM. Bone conduction transducers transmit sound directly to the inner ear through vibration and are located under the brim just above the ears (one side or 2 sides depending on if you want to listen in just one ear and you can configure this). The controller that lives in the bill (it's also where the 1,000 mAh battery is housed) has three buttons on it. You can quickly learn their functions to pause/play music, answer or end phone calls, and adjust volume. It's in a convenient spot to reach up and push the buttons, though it's also big enough to feel a bit obtrusive hiding under the bill.At first, listening to music on Cynaps seems very ordinary. This is because it sounds like there's a tiny speaker in the hat, which everyone around you can hear. But take the hat off, or give it to a friend to use, and you can barely hear anything. You hear about as much as you would from a friend wearing headphones. That's when it really sinks in that the sounds you were hearing were transmitted through your skull.Sound is a bit muddy, without a lot of crisp separation between trebles, mid-range, and bass. You can make it sound better by tightening the Velcro strap (as much as is comfortably possible) and adjusting the angle of the rim. You can also improve the audio by covering your ears, or wearing earplugs - though that basically defeats the entire purpose. These are available as bare bones self-install modules which can be used to install into any hat.
Yes he called it Postle Hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the best thing to happen to poker in years.... at least since Black Friday. I kid. Still, it's so entertaining.
The solution is to let him play (since now) in other circumstances - I mean in other rooms, and check his whole body before. And we'll see how good he is.
That's what's so funny. He claims that everyone is just jealous that he is the greatest player ever and he has this amazing live read ability, but he only plays $1/$3 and $2/$5 games... If he is such poker god, why is he wasting his time at these stakes? He should be rich as fuck playing high stakes all the time.
Plus ban hats (specially white ones) and phones🤣 Also how can he read his opponents by bet size alone and never watching their body language or facial tells?
I think in criminal cases there are other solutions. Don't you think he will be jailed for something like 2 tot 5 years at least? Organized stealing from people, maybe even 7 to 10 years??
In Matusow’s interview last night, Postle presented quite a few defenses; my takeaways: Local players in Sacramento are jealous of him - you know, the people who have been cheated and are the only group of people sticking up for him Joey and Doug wanted their names mentioned on Sport Center. Something about Russ Hamilton not being mentioned on Sports Center. He and the other players on the Stones live stream are all losing money so fast they are continually rebuying and adding to their stacks, even in the 10 minutes before the broadcast starts It is a lie that he is up $250K in the past year, it is more like $125K. So he won consistently for a year at only 30BB per hour, which is only im-Postle-able, not doubly so. He has been crushing the game for 16 years and 100 people know it, just ask them The reason he is such a big winner is his secret strategy, and that is: He is a fun-loving guy. He plays 54o against Chris Moneymaker, T2 if someone mentions Doyle Brunson, 95o against a friend who busted another friend with it; that explains why he plays as if he could see his opponents’ cards. The bulge that can be plainly seen in his hat is not there, and therefore not worth talking about so he quickly changed the subject He’s always been on his phone more than anyone else. He used to watch the broadcast stream while playing to see his opponents cards. Q: People ask how you can Soul read your opponents when you are always staring at your crotch? A. I’ve always sat with my left hand under my crotch. (You couldn’t make this stuff up, and this means he’s actually sitting on his phone).
The take that multiple of the commentators are in on it seems far-fetched to me. What's that conversation even like? Mike walks up to the commentators and he's like, "Yo, so I'm cheating the game for thousands of dollars, and I'll pay you all to say good things about me in the booth." The idea that 5 or 6 people were in on this, but nothing came out about it for a year is a lot less likely than it being a 2 person job.
Yeah my opinion on the commentators is that it’s like any sort of poker content. Take Andrew Neeme vlogs. Everyone loves Andrew. And the way he portrays poker makes it look like the losers are having a good time gambling it up, and the winners are all fair fighting and clean. This is exactly what we’d all like poker to be: in the long run, the bad players still enjoy themselves while the good players get the money in a clean, respectable way. So, poker: it’s fun! It’s gambling! Don’t question how mike would manage to find a jam here with 99 if btn had like KJ and the bb was jamming Th7h himself and was promoting his hand to first place, but in this scenario he just knows he’s against a set. Also if everyone was in on it, why was Veronica commentating for a year? Wouldn’t they want to get her out of the booth if she was a threat to kill the golden goose? Also, these commentators are stones employees (I think). They don’t want to be saying things on video that might deter people from coming. So it’s credible to just tell people that mike Postle is a former OL superlag smasher who brings that style to the live felt now. So just ignore the insane results. Mike is just a god of reading people.
One thing to go after Postle, where the proof is his crazy win rate and uncanny reads, claiming the commentators are suspect for nothing more than doing their jobs is bullshit. Don't let this become a witch hunt where you accuse ANYBODY with ZERO proof. You're treading into libel grounds here Doug.
HoboJoeWitness you don’t think it’s funny how they are saying what will happen, that no one in there right mind would play the way the goof is playing without knowledge of cards he can’t see.?
@@HoboJoeWitness I know this is an old post but you’re insane The commentators acted like they were certain he’s going to fold before he folded And that’s suspicious as all hell That’s not libel that’s a TOTALLY reasonable (and dare I say ONLY reasonable) interpretation of the commentary video If you think think that’s libel, you have no business talking about law
There's also a huge tell with the commentators -- as soon as Postle folds, the commentary STOPS. But the hand isn't over. There's still players in the pot. Why did the commentators stop talking about the hand as soon as Postle folded? You can even see/hear that they realize, "Oh, we should still be talking here."
Not a apologist but this could just be a good fold. This screams set and he's basically drawing dead to a set. He's also a slight dog to 54 hearts. And maybe he has a read on this player? I just want to know has anyone seen a cell phone on his lap? Or does he have LED pants? Do the people sitting next to him in these games have eyes? They can't see his lap?
Yea seems a decent fold,Doug comes from a HU nosebleed online background where folding anything on a flop rarely happens. This is low stakes live multi-way,totally different. His insane bluffs on rivers and turns are waaaay more shocking
I lean towards cheating too, but come on any low stakes NL game there is at least 2 or more NITs. If they made this play on me I would put them on top 2 or better. I honestly think there is a little too much cred being given to the players at the table, there are literally tons of these players on low stakes that only move in when they can beat a pair. The analysis confirms this a bit as the players are doing the exact opposite of what Doug (or any good player) should do. I mean last time I played there were two guys at my table that if they three bet I could put them on AA, KK, QQ or AK(there is a 2nd group you can add JJ,10s,AQ). They tend to always hold on for dear life on boards that don't flop over cards. Giving some clear ways to exploit. I could be wrong but I feel at some level we are trying to compare the NFL to a Middle School Football game! Again I think he does have some cheating angle, but as I watch these each day I'm actually getting less convinced.....
@@waltmartin92 hard to tell if we are looking at it with bias. I wished Veronica the whistleblower would consult this with other people first to come up with a plan. Like have security to screen his hat after a game or something
“Mikes gonna fold” anyone would be folding too much here if it’s jus standard to fold toptop against a check raise that you cover more than 4x over lol
Honestly cheating is kind of hard when spectators can see everyone's hand. The cheater didn't even try to "mix it up" to cover his cheating. I'm surprised he wasn't caught earlier. Good job on outing this guy. I live in Vegas and I have a shovel. I'll be in the desert digging a hole. Edit...ahhh I just heard what you said about the commentators. I'll dig more holes.
My theory.... He has an RFID reader/booster on his phone and/or key fob & a bone induction speaker in his hat. He intercepts the RFID data being sent from the table to the production system and sends the data via the booster to a nearby accomplice. This way, they don't necessarily need the management to be in on it. After a few orbits the accomplice on the laptop can determine which RFID codes are for which cards as he watches the stream and each card is exposed. He simply has to match the code being sent to him to the cards he is seeing on the stream. Once he has matched all of the cards in the deck to the RFID codes that Mike is intercepting and sending to him, he then knows exactly which cards each player is holding and he simply relays that information to Mike via his hat-based bone induction speaker. This is why Mike presses the side of his head in key situations because he needs a good connection to be able to hear his accomplice clearly. And he likely checks his phone on occasion to make sure the interceptor/booster is still running or to restart/turn it on/off. This makes technological & logical sense as it explains pretty much all of his odd physical movements, his habit of having his phone/key fob out & on the table & his absurdly unrealistic win rates.
You too can do it. Here is the kit. Boneinduction headsets and caps. 2 accomplices. One being in the commentator team. A live feed into your phone streamed into your bluetooth induction headset. Some kind of record.playing poker so you can claim you ve always been good at the game and no remorse. Now you re good to go. Oh yes and you need a live stream to do it on with your accomplices. Id your 3tlrd accomplice is a poker room official, then you are top of the range for the scam. Good luck. Just try to make enough mistakes you dont win an unrealistic amount of bbs per hour. Because that is ultimately the big flaw in that scam idea.
Stones should be boycotted as well. Obviously in on it specially with their fake investigations that find... NOTHING! 🤣 Can’t understand why people would still sit down at a table with this cheating pond life???
@@OutfoxedYa Yeah if they don't find any proof he was cheating, they might as well shut down their poker tables because no one is going to play there again. It would make the whole casino look guilty.
theDiReW0lf....Too late I reckon. With their FAKE commentary from their FAKE so called experts and their FAKE investigations, Stones already looks like a place to avoid if you want a fair game! I know casinos have to stack the odds in their favour but to go to these lengths could undermine the whole gambling community/industry.
LOLFLUSHDRAW because wisdom can always be gained from the winner. I was already involved in the hand by watching this video; I might as well have had the pleasure of seeing how it finishes. Do you not see the value in this?
Doug, Joey, and last but not least Veronica, you guys are warriors On and Off the felt, I am so thankful for you guys putting your necks on the line for the poker community. The commentators straight buttering up postle are nothing short of disgusting. This is all so dirty that at this point when folks like Negreanu and Matusow, two people who have helped me to shape my poker game and that I have tremendous respect for are blindly defending postle they themselves look shady and at the very least arrogant and ignorant.. Some things in life never change. Now when I watch the hands with postle, knowing that other players are playing by the rules, something that doesn't typically cross my mind, has made it a joy to watch players like Marle at the same table as postle while she plays her best. Seeing the guy next to Bart Hanson with JJ on AAQ take it to the river. I grew up playing hockey and at the end of the game there's a line of handshakes from both teams. Camaraderie in poker exists. I actually think Jamie Gold may have the greatest poker quote. " For me, It's always been about how much I could raise. How much I could give back. "
I lost a 2k pot last night. Ak. Flop KQ7. I opened pre one caller. I c bet he calls. I jam turn a 4. He calls. Q4o. Maybe I overplayed but you bet for value with these turds and var just goes up. I'm no Postle.
What you need is VAR. video assistance referral. The camera or magnetic card reader tells the house the cards and a scum bag inside man tells you what to do. Either through your phone or a blu tooth vibration device.
i dunno, Mike is the guy we should be going after. It's a little circumstantial to start questioning the commentators. It's much harder to prove anything. If we end up finding out they were in on it, then absolutely we should go after them. Until then, I'd rather just go after Mike. Seriously, what's going to happen to that?
No because part of knowing your opponents hands means even if you are behind you can still win the pot by bluffing your opponent out. Unless they have the nuts they mite start getting scared at your huge bets. You ofc know your bluffing but they don't.. And if they do call losing that hand won't hurt your earnings at the end of the night because you know all opponents whole cards. Been done before, You will always win even as a slightly average player.
He doesn't get the information on their hands until after he already lead out on the flop and got raised. Looks to me that he starts moving his hat around once the set of 8's moves all in.
What was the guy in blue typing before Postle looked down? He also does two fidgety things immediately after, finger crack and chapstick. Specifically you can send SMS with computer. He goes type, fidget, deadpan he'll fold. I would look at other hands where you side by side to see if he is typing in chat right before the hat grab look down.
Mike Postel is the greatest poker player of all time and everyone is sour grapes because they're a losing fishcake compared to Mike Postel. Mike Postle is my poker hero. And I want to one day play with the same level reading abilities and psychological skills and develop his uncanny instincts.
Lmao @ the “push it to the limit” beat from scarface when he shows the montage of postle doing his strange hat grab and stare into his lap. Great music choice
So funny how the commentator instantly says the guy with the gutter shouldn’t be calling etc etc. never heard that once when Mike has a gutter. Or even FIVE FOUR OFF.
Everyone: no way Mike P is folding Top Top.
Mike P: hold my phone...
Holding Mike’s phone is the last thing he’d want anyone to do
If mike knew he had 888 then why did he lead out for $160 in the first place?
He lead out because it would look incredibly sketchy not to bet with top pair top kicker
C Sauce folding top top is even more sketchy
Neil Godfrey there was a guy with 8/7off also involved. So it is less possible to hit the set, though he obviously hit his set. He also wanted to make the preflop-potsize bigger because of this.
I don't think he's cheating. I think he's meditating when he stares at his lap like that, and derives the best move from the cosmos. My proof? Geez, he wins all the time!!!
"Let's wait until he checks his phone to confirm his opponent's hand before we see what he does."
this guy should've watch negreanu's masterclass doesn't he know that everything at the table conveys information especially looking at your crotch in the middle of a hand
Barr3LtoURdome You wanna focus on not chewing gum
@@moneymikz lol i don't know why my brain took so long to process your joke feels bad man
Hahahahhahha
why is this the funniest comment of this entire ordeal?
he was folding crotch time gives you strength.
He listened, lol. “Welcome to postle hands!
Maybe if we suggest him to change "Poker Hand" to "Polker Hands"(like "Polk" and "Poker" combined for "Polker" haha!) he'll do that too?
@@tony16546 neverrrrrr !!!!!
polka hands with polka music please
@@tony16546 that's genius!!!
@@mikehascats26 Love it
I showed my friend who doesn’t play poker this video and he was dying at Doug’s great commentary and trolling abilities. GOAT!
Doug, will upswing make me crush like postle? Can we have the god on as a coach ?
Just be sure you DO NOT SKIP the "How to Flop Sets and River Quads" module in the later stages of Core Lab concepts. Another gem is guest coach Berkey's "Thinking Outside the Solar System, Let Alone The Box" module is a must for dealing with unconventional players such as Postle. Finally, Chicago Joey's "2-Card PLO: The Essential Guide to Reverse Blockers, Quadruple-Merge Ranges and Making the Most of Backdoor Quad Draws" rounds out some spectacular Lab content.
@@TraneFrancks LMFAO! the Backdoor Quad Draws are the absolute tits!
I'm not sure if upswing could afford to pay the god himself
@@TraneFrancks I really really need that first module you mentionned
“Not an open ended straight draw” ignoring the fact there was a flush draw wtf
Thanks for Postling these awesome hand analysis vids Doug!
wow wow 2:57 when the king is out raise all in the guy in the announcer booth wearing blue sends a short text
This guy is so obvious, ban him from everything.
Jail time for game’s fraud
and yet another day went by and you still haven't hired him as a coach in the lab... What's up with that??
Need to balance our cheating range!
Doug doesn't want people working for him who can own him at heads up no limit
😂😂😂
The “Fundamental Theorem of Poker” says that statistically impossible positive results require you to know your opponents cards.
If you know statistics and probability, you know what he does is impossible without some sort of "extra" tool not eligible to all other players. If you accept that every system/process has an output and it's output (in this case winning at cards) follows a bell curve, and you see that you have an outlier from the bell curve, you know something isn't right, that there is a special cause. The use of phones and electronic devices have become so proliferated at various casino poker rooms that I haven't walked into a poker room in over 1 year for a cash game or tournament over $50. There are just too many ways to cheat now that the casino allows. This too is interesting, because basically a lot of these same casinos ABSOLUTELY DONT allow these devices when you're playing at their house games (against the house card games). Hmmm, this speaks volumes to me that they allow this differentiation to occur within the same casino. Wonder why?
Wow! What a fold! How did he know that?! It's like he knows their hole cards..
He can see their souls.
Yeah, that's definitely what that is!
I have folded TPTK/overpair many times against a shove or big raise. This hand is not that suspicous.
It is when they are talking about his movements again...grabbing his hat, staring down at his crotch
HE'S A GOD!
Hes pressing his bone induction headphones closer to his head so he can hear what to do. If you see the photos of his hat when he plays you can see there is something hidden in his hat. Bone induction headphones connected via bluetooth he thinks hes fucking genius
honestly he woudlnt even need headphones, all anyone has to do is communicate to him a few simple details like "strong, weak, bluff". He could have a device that just thumps or vibrates a certain way for each scenario, then let mike decide how he wants to approach.
This. 100%. Presses them whennhe doesnt hears very well. Hence the commentators recapping everything so literally. He presses his cap always the same way. The chat to his accomplice is the general status. Not the hand. It s do more. Do less. Lose.money next hand. The audio is what gives the god mode. The hive mind can.figure everything out. From tbe globalist agenda to enslave us all to this alleged scam. This is almost too easy. Where we go one we go all.
amomymous mymous You are a genius. Teach me how to live.
They are Bone Conduction just used wrong word.
I think there's something to the hat speculation. He may either be adjusting the headset or it is a signal to his accomplice to send information on his opponents hand. It happens much too often in key spots.
Maybe the hands on the hat is a signal that he needs information
I guess he works with the casino! They share the money.
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100% agree......hand (hands) on hat mean, “Please help”
interesting. Doug needs to see if he was all-knowing on the hands from is collage, if you will, and mention what his accuracy percentage is for those hands. got me curious, dt. good observation
@@maybenot7298 The headset is supposed to go in front of your ear, so yeah, he's probably having issues hearing. Pushing it on his skull probably helps with resonance. But he also uses the move to look less suspicious when he looks at his crotch. After every crotch stare he will grab the tip of the cap to signal he understood and often look into the camera to his left, probably to communicate with his accomplice.
He needs to know if his suck out cards are coming before he calls.
Call it "Impostable Hands"
Arlyn Roberts good work.
With only one or two exceptions none of these hands really stand out as impossible. It’s when you put them all together that the cheating simply becomes undeniable.
Impostable Polker Hands, woah
acehole you’re missing the beauty of the original post.
lozgod no i didn’t
the commentators r in on this too. take them all to court
Negative...you literally have no clue what your talking about sit down.
This story made ESPN last night...
Alaskaguyd again? It was on Thursday night too.
You know its a big story when your friends who couldn’t care less about poker are all of the sudden talking about poker.
@@Acehol449 I believe the ran a second story claiming that Justin Kuraltis is probably involved.
If he isn't God, he's at least apostle
2:40 what's the commentator in blue shirt doing? Hmmm
sends text - fold , says mikes gonna fold without even looking at camera lol. wtf is going on in that place.
There isn't an opened ended straight draw, never mind the flush draw.
It struck me as odd that the commentators so heavily sound like hype men for Postle. Until I realized they're giving him all the pertinent information he needs and also telling him exactly what to do.
Yes, 30 minutes after the hand ends. I don't think Postle has a time machine in his lap.
I don't think the commentators were in on this at all - they're just humans trying to make sense of Postle crushing it, night after night. He had the hole cards in his lap. The only question to me is whether that was configured by somebody on the inside, or by Postle himself.
@@iamamish it’s got to have been done by someone on the inside, tbf it might not have anything to do with commentary, but if your that used to Mike making godly reads like this and are so confidant he is going to fold then they themselves should be suspecting this shit and the fact that they just continue to play the ‘mikes a god card’ just makes it more suspect.
@@ctom6068 2 points:
1. I don't really fault the commentators. By most measures they weren't fantastic poker players, and when you see Mike do this day after day, you're not thinking he's cheating.
2. I agree re: inside job but a few things to ponder. A. we know from Veronica that JFK had the live stream on his phone (not the delayed one), so it was broadcasting, and it was a generally known. B. Postle had info on his LinkedIn that suggested he helped set up the live stream originally. He deleted his LinkedIn page the day after the accusations were made public (which imo is quite suspicious). C. There was zero security around the peek room, and it would have been quite easy for Postle to gain access and figure out what the stream URL was
@@iamamish yeah good points tbf, that definitely makes sense and I do remember hearing that. However you'd have thought the commentary team would have a good enough understanding of poker to realise the plays he is making are completely impossible. They are commentating poker at the end of the day. It doesn't take long to have a basic understanding of it and I'm sure some people started to click on.
Didn't the guy have like 60 consecutive winning sessions. I just can't get my head round how everyone who watches these videos can immediately almost guarantee that he is cheating but the commentary team couldn't figure it out over 60 consecutive winning sessions. Doesn't really make sense to me.
@@ctom6068 yeah I think though that if you're not an expert, you're just trying to make sense of what you're seeing. You assume Postle just gets great reads. You've heard that he crushed online poker (of course, nobody actually knew that - Postle just told people).
Never underestimate the power of humans to come up with explanations for things they're seeing that otherwise don't make sense.
Postle with the old 'bone conductor hat squeeze' move.
Doug, you need to hire Postle as a Coach and the rebrand as Godswing Poker
Poker Tip: When playing Postle on a livestream, DO NOT put your cards on the RFID :)
He would still win most players here.
thought the same thing haha
What if you don't look at your cards at all, then start firing? I'm just wondering what would happen if you do that. Would it just mind fuck him, or what?
One dislike on the video.hmmmm wonder whoe it might be
Haha I said the same thing when I noticed
i've been following Mike Postle for over 12 years now. This man is a GOD.. A GOD I TELL YOU ! ! !
Dave Nantais this is the first vid I’ve seen of this scandal This doesn’t look like cheating?
@@CharlesUFarley778 do more digging. The man is definetly cheating.
@@CharlesUFarley778 Mike Postle is a God!
I’ve never wanted to break someone’s face more than mike p.
Polk you deserve some type of Primetime Emmy for the deep dive you've done on this case. You must be auditioning for 60 minutes 😂
He looks in his jacket, where his phone is sitting almost like it was hidden. Hmmm, then folds top pair top kicker. Interesting.
This hand is a pure pure mistake by postle. I think when he started cheating the game he set rules for himself like accepting coolers, make -ev plays, etc. But greed is a powerfull drug and postle addiction to it makes him fold here.
This hand made it clear for me that postle is cheating, thanks for pointing this one out Polk!
So when will the new upswing poker course featuring Mike "The Apostle" Postle be released and will there be a discount code? Thanks Dug
Freeze at 4:19. Look at the hat squeezing and adjustment
Same at 2:00 minute mark
Listening to the audio device hidden in his cap...
The simplest solution is usually the correct one.
One text = call
Two text = raise
Three text = fold.
Someone in the commentary room could be texting him. Doesnt even have to read the phone.
You're on fire Doug!
Nice work Doug, could you also post the stream and timestamp of these hands and any you do in the future so we can look into them ourselves?
You should call this Postle Hands
He literally does in the first 3 seconds of the video
Commented before watching
Alex Arsenault working on a video now
I love getting to watch this all unfold from the sidelines! I hope that this shows people that no matter what, you WILL get caught if you cheat! Can't wait to find out how deep this rabbit hole goes!
Boski how do you feel playing against this guy in sessions and not coming out on the v positive side? Have you gone back and rewatched your sessions at stones?
Agreed Doug. Commentary is definitely sketchy.#takingteamplaytothenextlevel
Wrong graphic again,they said he have 7 2 of,that’s why he fold
1:45, the hand rubbing is a tell by the commentators for the texter. Similar to the eye rubbing in one of Doug Selbts previous videos
Got to do the PLO hand where the table didnt read the cards and he knew it live.
Polk please keep up the great work. The poker community really appreciates you. You bring tremendous value to us all.
Please start every Postle video with the Joey Ingram/Eminem intro!
Postle Hands is all we will ever need. No more begging for Polker Hands!
I would really like to know how many people were in this together. I don't believe that everyone including commentators were included, there is just to big of a risk that someone would spill the beans, and there is not enough money to go around, 250k is a lit, but when you divide it by 5, 6, 7,..... It doesn't sound so attractive any more.
it doesnt even have to be someone in the booth who can see cards. Someone could have hidden a camera in that room and is standing around outside. Or just has a backdoor to the system (this would allow the casino to blame outside party to maintain reputation).
@@codmott286 Sure, maybe has just has a signal receivers in his keys and he is intercepting the signal from RFID reader built in to poker table, but my guess is that TD must be working with him. I think they should inform the gaming commission and police before going public, so that they could catch them red handed.
Bluetooth Bone conduction Headset in a Hat. the microphone is located inside the Bill/RIM. Bone conduction transducers transmit sound directly to the inner ear through vibration and are located under the brim just above the ears (one side or 2 sides depending on if you want to listen in just one ear and you can configure this).
The controller that lives in the bill (it's also where the 1,000 mAh battery is housed) has three buttons on it. You can quickly learn their functions to pause/play music, answer or end phone calls, and adjust volume. It's in a convenient spot to reach up and push the buttons, though it's also big enough to feel a bit obtrusive hiding under the bill.At first, listening to music on Cynaps seems very ordinary. This is because it sounds like there's a tiny speaker in the hat, which everyone around you can hear. But take the hat off, or give it to a friend to use, and you can barely hear anything. You hear about as much as you would from a friend wearing headphones. That's when it really sinks in that the sounds you were hearing were transmitted through your skull.Sound is a bit muddy, without a lot of crisp separation between trebles, mid-range, and bass. You can make it sound better by tightening the Velcro strap (as much as is comfortably possible) and adjusting the angle of the rim. You can also improve the audio by covering your ears, or wearing earplugs - though that basically defeats the entire purpose. These are available as bare bones self-install modules which can be used to install into any hat.
Watch him touch his hat at 1:58,
Yes he called it Postle Hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the best thing to happen to poker in years.... at least since Black Friday. I kid. Still, it's so entertaining.
This is one of my favorite series.
The solution is to let him play (since now) in other circumstances - I mean in other rooms, and check his whole body before. And we'll see how good he is.
That's what's so funny. He claims that everyone is just jealous that he is the greatest player ever and he has this amazing live read ability, but he only plays $1/$3 and $2/$5 games... If he is such poker god, why is he wasting his time at these stakes? He should be rich as fuck playing high stakes all the time.
Plus ban hats (specially white ones) and phones🤣
Also how can he read his opponents by bet size alone and never watching their body language or facial tells?
I think in criminal cases there are other solutions. Don't you think he will be jailed for something like 2 tot 5 years at least? Organized stealing from people, maybe even 7 to 10 years??
Invite him as a coach... the god-coach, who can feel the sets in milliseconds.
He is a cyborg with implanted headphones.
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In Matusow’s interview last night, Postle presented quite a few defenses; my takeaways:
Local players in Sacramento are jealous of him - you know, the people who have been cheated and are the only group of people sticking up for him
Joey and Doug wanted their names mentioned on Sport Center.
Something about Russ Hamilton not being mentioned on Sports Center.
He and the other players on the Stones live stream are all losing money so fast they are continually rebuying and adding to their stacks, even in the 10 minutes before the broadcast starts
It is a lie that he is up $250K in the past year, it is more like $125K. So he won consistently for a year at only 30BB per hour, which is only im-Postle-able, not doubly so.
He has been crushing the game for 16 years and 100 people know it, just ask them
The reason he is such a big winner is his secret strategy, and that is: He is a fun-loving guy.
He plays 54o against Chris Moneymaker, T2 if someone mentions Doyle Brunson, 95o against a friend who busted another friend with it; that explains why he plays as if he could see his opponents’ cards.
The bulge that can be plainly seen in his hat is not there, and therefore not worth talking about so he quickly changed the subject
He’s always been on his phone more than anyone else. He used to watch the broadcast stream while playing to see his opponents cards.
Q: People ask how you can Soul read your opponents when you are always staring at your crotch? A. I’ve always sat with my left hand under my crotch. (You couldn’t make this stuff up, and this means he’s actually sitting on his phone).
The take that multiple of the commentators are in on it seems far-fetched to me. What's that conversation even like? Mike walks up to the commentators and he's like, "Yo, so I'm cheating the game for thousands of dollars, and I'll pay you all to say good things about me in the booth." The idea that 5 or 6 people were in on this, but nothing came out about it for a year is a lot less likely than it being a 2 person job.
Yeah my opinion on the commentators is that it’s like any sort of poker content.
Take Andrew Neeme vlogs. Everyone loves Andrew. And the way he portrays poker makes it look like the losers are having a good time gambling it up, and the winners are all fair fighting and clean. This is exactly what we’d all like poker to be: in the long run, the bad players still enjoy themselves while the good players get the money in a clean, respectable way.
So, poker: it’s fun! It’s gambling! Don’t question how mike would manage to find a jam here with 99 if btn had like KJ and the bb was jamming Th7h himself and was promoting his hand to first place, but in this scenario he just knows he’s against a set.
Also if everyone was in on it, why was Veronica commentating for a year? Wouldn’t they want to get her out of the booth if she was a threat to kill the golden goose?
Also, these commentators are stones employees (I think). They don’t want to be saying things on video that might deter people from coming. So it’s credible to just tell people that mike Postle is a former OL superlag smasher who brings that style to the live felt now. So just ignore the insane results. Mike is just a god of reading people.
One thing to go after Postle, where the proof is his crazy win rate and uncanny reads, claiming the commentators are suspect for nothing more than doing their jobs is bullshit. Don't let this become a witch hunt where you accuse ANYBODY with ZERO proof. You're treading into libel grounds here Doug.
HoboJoeWitness you don’t think it’s funny how they are saying what will happen, that no one in there right mind would play the way the goof is playing without knowledge of cards he can’t see.?
I mean if he knows the cards in this hand, why’s he betting to pair into a set?
@@HoboJoeWitness I know this is an old post but you’re insane
The commentators acted like they were certain he’s going to fold before he folded
And that’s suspicious as all hell
That’s not libel that’s a TOTALLY reasonable (and dare I say ONLY reasonable) interpretation of the commentary video
If you think think that’s libel, you have no business talking about law
There's also a huge tell with the commentators -- as soon as Postle folds, the commentary STOPS. But the hand isn't over. There's still players in the pot.
Why did the commentators stop talking about the hand as soon as Postle folded?
You can even see/hear that they realize, "Oh, we should still be talking here."
How dumb are you? Commentators are on a delay.
Hey Doug, have you considered calling it "Polkstler Hands"?
These Postle hand break downs are amazing, i can’t wait for his book release “ I used to 6 3 and now I RFID”
I hope all these Stones ppl end up in jail. #MafiaLive
Agreed!
It’s a civil case not criminal
@@jessecumbee6156 Should be criminal. They're cheating.
Not a apologist but this could just be a good fold. This screams set and he's basically drawing dead to a set. He's also a slight dog to 54 hearts. And maybe he has a read on this player? I just want to know has anyone seen a cell phone on his lap? Or does he have LED pants? Do the people sitting next to him in these games have eyes? They can't see his lap?
Yea seems a decent fold,Doug comes from a HU nosebleed online background where folding anything on a flop rarely happens. This is low stakes live multi-way,totally different.
His insane bluffs on rivers and turns are waaaay more shocking
Is stones still in business after this or have they changed name and management already?
I rarely play poker and barely pay attention to big games.. but I love these vids man. Can’t wait to see the outcome of this
I wish I could have such mind reading abilities as the one and only Mike Postle!
I lean towards cheating too, but come on any low stakes NL game there is at least 2 or more NITs. If they made this play on me I would put them on top 2 or better. I honestly think there is a little too much cred being given to the players at the table, there are literally tons of these players on low stakes that only move in when they can beat a pair. The analysis confirms this a bit as the players are doing the exact opposite of what Doug (or any good player) should do.
I mean last time I played there were two guys at my table that if they three bet I could put them on AA, KK, QQ or AK(there is a 2nd group you can add JJ,10s,AQ). They tend to always hold on for dear life on boards that don't flop over cards. Giving some clear ways to exploit.
I could be wrong but I feel at some level we are trying to compare the NFL to a Middle School Football game!
Again I think he does have some cheating angle, but as I watch these each day I'm actually getting less convinced.....
brent butler ok you created some doubt on one aspect of about 1000 clear cheating aspects of this guys game. Ok he’s not a cheat.
These hands are quite imPOSTLEable to believe. 🧐🧐🧐
You just showed us his inside man giving him his decision via commentary live.
7:16 he wants us to think he's pondering a call
Man, that neck stretch is akwark. It is like he is doing a checklist of neck stretching: 1. Squint eyes; 2. Roll neck; 3. In pain
can there be a smoking gun?
@@waltmartin92 hard to tell if we are looking at it with bias. I wished Veronica the whistleblower would consult this with other people first to come up with a plan. Like have security to screen his hat after a game or something
but all he's really thinking about is folding and the fucking mirage (that this is a legit poker game)
@@adorkable81 you're not wrong but hindsights 20/20 man she's obviously not in charge of security
Doug why you kill him with the push it to the limit! Had me dying!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
“Mikes gonna fold” anyone would be folding too much here if it’s jus standard to fold toptop against a check raise that you cover more than 4x over lol
Polk why did you stop commenting on the hand after the laydown?
Not mentioning the call from the flush-draw guy and letting the video play out.
Because it's irrelevant. Come on man,Use your brain
Honestly cheating is kind of hard when spectators can see everyone's hand. The cheater didn't even try to "mix it up" to cover his cheating. I'm surprised he wasn't caught earlier.
Good job on outing this guy. I live in Vegas and I have a shovel. I'll be in the desert digging a hole.
Edit...ahhh I just heard what you said about the commentators. I'll dig more holes.
This is great but not enough !! You got me hooked on the super long stream and deeper discussions
Doug said haren had middle pair before the flop when he had 87 off
U never mentioned his classic 2 hands on head move at 1:59 , why does he keep doing this too?
Mike activates millennium eye. totally fine ;D
Mike throws down his Magic card face down...in his crotch
My theory.... He has an RFID reader/booster on his phone and/or key fob & a bone induction speaker in his hat. He intercepts the RFID data being sent from the table to the production system and sends the data via the booster to a nearby accomplice. This way, they don't necessarily need the management to be in on it. After a few orbits the accomplice on the laptop can determine which RFID codes are for which cards as he watches the stream and each card is exposed. He simply has to match the code being sent to him to the cards he is seeing on the stream. Once he has matched all of the cards in the deck to the RFID codes that Mike is intercepting and sending to him, he then knows exactly which cards each player is holding and he simply relays that information to Mike via his hat-based bone induction speaker. This is why Mike presses the side of his head in key situations because he needs a good connection to be able to hear his accomplice clearly. And he likely checks his phone on occasion to make sure the interceptor/booster is still running or to restart/turn it on/off. This makes technological & logical sense as it explains pretty much all of his odd physical movements, his habit of having his phone/key fob out & on the table & his absurdly unrealistic win rates.
The God gets it all in with 3rd pair but folds top top 😂 😂 😂 guess that’s why he is the pro playing poker and I’m working a 9to5
You too can do it. Here is the kit. Boneinduction headsets and caps. 2 accomplices. One being in the commentator team. A live feed into your phone streamed into your bluetooth induction headset. Some kind of record.playing poker so you can claim you ve always been good at the game and no remorse. Now you re good to go. Oh yes and you need a live stream to do it on with your accomplices. Id your 3tlrd accomplice is a poker room official, then you are top of the range for the scam. Good luck. Just try to make enough mistakes you dont win an unrealistic amount of bbs per hour. Because that is ultimately the big flaw in that scam idea.
You're a GOD for putting extra time at the end of your videos.
I hope he gets permabanned from everywhere.
At the least. He deserves much worse.
Stones should be boycotted as well. Obviously in on it specially with their fake investigations that find... NOTHING! 🤣
Can’t understand why people would still sit down at a table with this cheating pond life???
@@OutfoxedYa Yeah if they don't find any proof he was cheating, they might as well shut down their poker tables because no one is going to play there again. It would make the whole casino look guilty.
theDiReW0lf....Too late I reckon. With their FAKE commentary from their FAKE so called experts and their FAKE investigations, Stones already looks like a place to avoid if you want a fair game! I know casinos have to stack the odds in their favour but to go to these lengths could undermine the whole gambling community/industry.
There's about 95% chance it will be a criminial court case, especially because Stones is in on it to some extent, meaning jail time.
Love the freeze-frame of the "Postle peek" @ 4:02
Now you mentioned the cap thing, its almost too obvious!
the commentators are in on it
Who won though :( show us. Did a heart come ?
If memory serves me correctly the heart comes on the turn and the river bricks out.
I wish the rest of the hand was shown.
Why does it matter at all
They run it twice and it’s a chop, if I remember correctly.
LOLFLUSHDRAW because wisdom can always be gained from the winner. I was already involved in the hand by watching this video; I might as well have had the pleasure of seeing how it finishes. Do you not see the value in this?
Doug, Joey, and last but not least Veronica, you guys are warriors On and Off the felt, I am so thankful for you guys putting your necks on the line for the poker community. The commentators straight buttering up postle are nothing short of disgusting. This is all so dirty that at this point when folks like Negreanu and Matusow, two people who have helped me to shape my poker game and that I have tremendous respect for are blindly defending postle they themselves look shady and at the very least arrogant and ignorant.. Some things in life never change. Now when I watch the hands with postle, knowing that other players are playing by the rules, something that doesn't typically cross my mind, has made it a joy to watch players like Marle at the same table as postle while she plays her best. Seeing the guy next to Bart Hanson with JJ on AAQ take it to the river. I grew up playing hockey and at the end of the game there's a line of handshakes from both teams. Camaraderie in poker exists. I actually think Jamie Gold may have the greatest poker quote. " For me, It's always been about how much I could raise. How much I could give back. "
Ace , king then bets on the blind, a king comes out he has the highest pair then he folds. Yeah right
what happened in the hand afterwards ? did flush draw call and did 8s hold ?
I hate when i get a top pair & kicker & lose to a set.
I lost a 2k pot last night. Ak. Flop KQ7. I opened pre one caller. I c bet he calls. I jam turn a 4. He calls. Q4o. Maybe I overplayed but you bet for value with these turds and var just goes up. I'm no Postle.
What you need is VAR. video assistance referral. The camera or magnetic card reader tells the house the cards and a scum bag inside man tells you what to do. Either through your phone or a blu tooth vibration device.
hat adjust at around or just before 2:00 guess his reception is off in his hat. can't get all his channels
You can clearly tell he is cheating by his body language he looks uncomfortable
i dunno, Mike is the guy we should be going after. It's a little circumstantial to start questioning the commentators. It's much harder to prove anything. If we end up finding out they were in on it, then absolutely we should go after them. Until then, I'd rather just go after Mike. Seriously, what's going to happen to that?
Postle activates GOD MODE to SEE his opponent's CARDS
You can see the Caster in blue at 2:28 double-pressing on the keyboard something near the number 8.
It’s so obvious he’s cheating. Everyone knows he’s cheating. He needs to go to jail for a year and come back with a new scheme
I think a year is not long enough he stole 6 figures.
These are the two commentators who seemed to know something was going on but were also the most quiet about anything being weird.
If he knows the cards, doesn't he just fold the flop after checking....?
No because part of knowing your opponents hands means even if you are behind you can still win the pot by bluffing your opponent out. Unless they have the nuts they mite start getting scared at your huge bets. You ofc know your bluffing but they don't.. And if they do call losing that hand won't hurt your earnings at the end of the night because you know all opponents whole cards. Been done before, You will always win even as a slightly average player.
@@youneke I meant specifically when he had AK v. 88 on a K83 flop.
@@RFlavin One.. he can't make it too obvious.. two.. he does have long shot odds.
He doesn't get the information on their hands until after he already lead out on the flop and got raised.
Looks to me that he starts moving his hat around once the set of 8's moves all in.
What was the guy in blue typing before Postle looked down? He also does two fidgety things immediately after, finger crack and chapstick. Specifically you can send SMS with computer. He goes type, fidget, deadpan he'll fold. I would look at other hands where you side by side to see if he is typing in chat right before the hat grab look down.
Mike Postel is the greatest poker player of all time and everyone is sour grapes because they're a losing fishcake compared to Mike Postel.
Mike Postle is my poker hero. And I want to one day play with the same level reading abilities and psychological skills and develop his uncanny instincts.
@@normandparent7160 yeah it's me!
Lmao @ the “push it to the limit” beat from scarface when he shows the montage of postle doing his strange hat grab and stare into his lap. Great music choice
It’s all most like he’s got one of them cia ear pieces and just listens to the commentary
That would be smarter but usually these shows usually commentate on a delay.
@@Gorgula Or they just delay the actual streaming process and commentate in real-time.
@@ukrobochips8817 Incorrect.
The scarface music was brilliant!! great vid, loved it.
First. (Never done this before, won’t ever do it again).
So funny how the commentator instantly says the guy with the gutter shouldn’t be calling etc etc. never heard that once when Mike has a gutter. Or even FIVE FOUR OFF.