Thank you for the review. Regarding the charging handle, you do not need the bottom piece when in the P-IX, just make sure the top piece is full on before inserting the firearm in to the P-IX. As for front bolt and accuracy, I think you described the use case scenario and reasons for using and not using it very accurately. We are actively addressing implementing everything you have mentioned that you are not on board with 100%, and we appreciate the support. Thank you ReCover Tactical
I appreciate the feedback. It’s good to know the charging handle works that way. I hadn’t tried it like that. It impressive to see a company actively listening to its community, and taking feedback in to consideration. I’ve always been very impressed with your products. Great work.
Great review! I have the PIX and have my Glock 22 ( 40 cal ) in it. I’m not planning on taking it in and out. It’s staying in the chassis for home defense. The best thing and what you left out…. Is the coolness factor. It looks great, feels great, shoots great… if you don’t have an AR, but you have a particular Glock, this is the way to go!
I think you are specifically the type of person this gun is made for. I’ve seen a lot of hate surrounding it without knowing it’s true purpose. If you have an extra Glock around, and you want to take advantage of a “rifle style” platform this certainly fits the bill
Of all the large chassis systems, I think it's probably the best thought thru. Most seem to lack a lot of basic options whereas this unit has them. Typical Recover Tactical product, it's cool and it works!
I dig the look of that KIDON folder. It actually looks and seems to work better on that Pi. Than it does for the system that it was originally designed for.
The Recover Tactical 20/20 Brace/stock can be used as a true PDW. This looks like total mall ninja kit. I get why they made this and was not for the US market. This was made for countries where owing a rifle is banned and owning a pistol is legal, like Israel.
Have the bolt with a snarled nut ir big wing nut and maybe thread taper at the last thread or too for locking that would be a simple fix like a supressor taper mount
Looks kind of silly but can see it for restrictive areas where getting an AR is difficult I hope they continue further development of the 20/20 instead of this
@@code4defense745 the 20/20 just needs a couple changes 1 make the brace hang lower so it's easier to use iron sights 2 remove the dead space in the front rail that makes attachments hang low This could be done by moving the screw to that notch kinda how most lights are Atacand
The third mag holder is a little silly but it’s cool. In the video it seems like the suppressor is wobbling around a bit, or perhaps the chassis is wobbling around the suppressor
So basically this turns your Glock into a scorpion. With more mags. Cool idea if you already have a Glock. This platform with a g31 or 32 would be a great SBR.
I was interested until about the 5 minute mark. I'm sure that trigger is garbage. I know the Roni isn't the best but I like mine. I was looking to change but not to this. I'm not a fan of bullpups because of the crap trigger. But he did a good job of reviewing this platform.
So I picked up that you claim it is accurate less than 25 yards? So are you saying with a riffle optic it is only accurate for - 25 yards? That's expensive for basically a pistols range.
Thank you so much for the review. It was very informative, educational and significantly help me make my decision on whether to purchase one of these devices. Regarding the Kidon folding stock, you mentioned registering P-IX as an SBR and I was curious how you did that. The P-IX is a non NFA item and doesn't come with a serial number, so did you use the Glock's serial number on the AFT forms when you registered it as an SBR? I appreciate your insight on how to register the P-IX as an SBR because I'd like to do the same thing. KUDOS again on your review!!
You are correct with the registering the Glock serial number. Technically this is the firearm and that is what becomes the SBR. I also appreciate the feedback on the review.
I can see why people would want it, but it doesn’t seem like the type of long gun I would grab if in need. I own a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 (rare now) however I never use it. If I needed a long gun even in home defense, I would grab my Mini-14 or even a Shotgun. It is neat though. I like Recover Tactical products, I own 1 of everything they have for the 1911 and like their products but I just don’t see the need for this. A nice toy, I suppose.
I agree with you completely. I have one of their other systems and other 9mm options. This seems bulky and just not very much the option I would choose, as it doesn't even add barrel length to justify the increased size.
I have the same thought and after thinking about it I came to the conclusion that it is because of the barrel moving at every shot for cycling (sorry for my bad English)
Id consider this thing nothing more that a range toy. great idea.. poor design / execution. while i never had any functionality or cycling issues, overall there is a lot to be improved on. Mainly the trigger mech. it is god awful. it's comparable to that of a nerf gun. i beefed up the section that meets the glock trigger, installed a stronger spring on the rear. those mods only made it slightly better. the Top rail being sectioned rather than continuous is another issue. it's way too flimsy. i was able to push my red dot to the side with about 1/4" of flex using a single finger. to alieviate this i ran a riser/bridge along the entire top. which must be taken off everytime i wish to remove my pistol. Roni may not look as cool but functionality and construction and the fact that it uses the glocks actual trigger is far more important to me than looks. I'll choose the roni any day over the pix.
I don't see the point. I have a chassis for my glock, which you folks made and sold, that only holds the glock itself. So, why add more unnecessary plastic and bulk and weight? Seems well enough engineered but self defeating. Your 20 20, 20 21 systems do this same job more efficiently. And far more discreetly. Just my 2 cents.
There actually isn’t anything wrong with the barrel. It’s just the barrel tilting in locking block It only looks so drastic from the length of the can.
Man I'm surprised you have so many positive things to say about this. I know you had a lot of negatives too, but damn this thing in nothing but a crappy toy, in my opinion. I was so exited about it when I saw it at shot show and pre ordered as soon as pre orders were open, but this junk is probably the most disappointing gun product I have ever bought. I will likely sell it, with the Glock I built specifically for it. Now, the reason I will NEVER buy anything from Recover again, is I left a review, reflecting my disappointment only to find out that they choose to approve them, or not. Of coarse they didn't approve mine, or anyone else's who was anything less than five stars. Just another shit gun accessory company with no integrity. Anyway, thanks for the fair video.
You know what they say, you can't please all the people all the time. One guy likes a product and finds a use for it, another one thinks it is a "crappy toy". I can only comment on my own personal experience of firing thousands of rounds through one over the last few months, it is not a toy, and it is accurate and flawless when the instructions and recommendations for use are followed. It is a "Catch 22", we make the P-IX out of a very high grade, lightweight glass reinforced polymer, and you call it a "crappy toy", or we can make it out of heavier material that is not as sturdy and people will say "it is too heavy", it is a “lose lose” sometimes. I am not looking for sympathy, I am just trying to explain our position and logic behind why something is designed and made a certain way. As for the integrity, we offer an unconditional 90 day return policy, you do not like it, send it back for a full refund (minus shipping). We list that return policy all over our website, no one here is trying to make you keep something you are not satisfied with, money is hard to come by, you don't like something of ours simply request a return by emailing service@recovertactical.com. A lot of time, effort and money goes into making a complicated product like the P-IX, you call it a "crappy toy", but there is a ton of R&D (2 years’ worth) that goes in to making it as lightweight with as few moving parts as possible. Everything on the P-IX is there for a reason and everything not on the P-IX is not there for a reason. There are many ways to make it more complicated, but then it would defeat the purpose of the product which is a lightweight tool designed to enhance the usability of your firearm in CQC situations. If you are looking for an overly complicated product, then this is not for you, if you are looking for a simple product that works and is durable then the P-IX fits that bill. As for your review, it was not approved (two of the comments you made in your review were due to you not following the instructions, not because of the product itself, ie not securing the grip with the supplied hardware then complaining that the grip is loose), we moderate comments on our website as do most other companies, 99% of reviews we do let through (and if you look at our products on Amazon you will see thousands of reviews with almost all over a 4+ star average), but the reality is that it is our website and our platform, and we are allowed to control the message. Once again, if you feel you were “ripped off” or if we sold you a product you are not 100% satisfied with then you are encouraged to return it, no one is trying to fool you or to steal your money. We do our best to think outside of the box and make innovative products, this take a lot of time, money and effort and we all know how much the gun community likes change (that was sarcasm). Once again, while I am not looking for sympathy, I am looking for a little understanding, we are constantly modifying and tweaking our products to improve them and the P-IX is no different. All I ask is that you remain civil, no need to throw insults. Thank you for the purchase Mr. Sheepdog, sorry we let you down and I look forward to seeing your return.
Sorry your experience hasn’t been a great one. I like to try and come at these things from a truly unbiased perspective. Like I said in the notes we bought this on our own, and recover never actually reached out to us to bring a review.
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Thank you for the review. Regarding the charging handle, you do not need the bottom piece when in the P-IX, just make sure the top piece is full on before inserting the firearm in to the P-IX.
As for front bolt and accuracy, I think you described the use case scenario and reasons for using and not using it very accurately.
We are actively addressing implementing everything you have mentioned that you are not on board with 100%, and we appreciate the support.
Thank you
ReCover Tactical
I appreciate the feedback. It’s good to know the charging handle works that way. I hadn’t tried it like that. It impressive to see a company actively listening to its community, and taking feedback in to consideration. I’ve always been very impressed with your products. Great work.
Can you make one that is compatible with Glock 40 10mm?
Can you guys release a version that is compatible with the PSA Dagger? Like what META Tactical did with the Apex?
@@code4defense745 yeah it's crazy to see a company respond like this, very very cool. I have more faith in this product now
Great review! I have the PIX and have my Glock 22 ( 40 cal ) in it. I’m not planning on taking it in and out. It’s staying in the chassis for home defense. The best thing and what you left out…. Is the coolness factor. It looks great, feels great, shoots great… if you don’t have an AR, but you have a particular Glock, this is the way to go!
I think you are specifically the type of person this gun is made for. I’ve seen a lot of hate surrounding it without knowing it’s true purpose. If you have an extra Glock around, and you want to take advantage of a “rifle style” platform this certainly fits the bill
@@code4defense745 is this PIX legal or do we need extra paperwork for this. 😮
Need one for my gen 1 Glock 22.
They use fake buffer tube can’t fit to many stocks on it
Not to mention the trigger
@@code4defense745😮
Of all the large chassis systems, I think it's probably the best thought thru. Most seem to lack a lot of basic options whereas this unit has them. Typical Recover Tactical product, it's cool and it works!
I dig the look of that KIDON folder. It actually looks and seems to work better on that Pi. Than it does for the system that it was originally designed for.
It looks pretty sick in my opinion
The Recover Tactical 20/20 Brace/stock can be used as a true PDW. This looks like total mall ninja kit. I get why they made this and was not for the US market. This was made for countries where owing a rifle is banned and owning a pistol is legal, like Israel.
Not so sure about that in Canada
Have the bolt with a snarled nut ir big wing nut and maybe thread taper at the last thread or too for locking that would be a simple fix like a supressor taper mount
Glock 24 357 sig barrel and one of these… yessss
That whole rig w that extended barrel + surpresser took that $300 pix into almost $2000 at least, not counting the glock
Looks kind of silly but can see it for restrictive areas where getting an AR is difficult
I hope they continue further development of the 20/20 instead of this
I’m kind of with you. I think the 20/20 is a very good option.
@@code4defense745 the 20/20 just needs a couple changes
1 make the brace hang lower so it's easier to use iron sights
2 remove the dead space in the front rail that makes attachments hang low
This could be done by moving the screw to that notch kinda how most lights are Atacand
@@Senator-Wary it does get your hand away from tip of barrel
@@Senator-Wary get suppressor sights and rmr
@@cd0130 got my hands on a 20/20 yeah the dead space is necessary
Good job man
Excellent video, thank you. What scope and mounting system are you using? Thanks.
Will recover tactical make a full metal chassis or tighten up the trigger mechanism?
I just wanted to know if you ordered it without the stock and did you need any special equipment to install the brace
You can order it without the stock portion. There are no tools needed for a brace. It just uses a standard buffer tube.
The third mag holder is a little silly but it’s cool. In the video it seems like the suppressor is wobbling around a bit, or perhaps the chassis is wobbling around the suppressor
its because the glock is a tilt barrel platform, hence why the suppressor seems like its wobbling. More exaggerated because of the added length
Does it work with G20? I could spend 500 on a optic ready slide or 500 on a nice chassis
This is so awesome. Id get one if i didnt have to register it as an sbr....
You don't. you can get it with a pistol brace instead
When is the p80 version coming out???💙❤💣💥
Meta tactical apex!
@@Synistercrayon $499 I'll pass...
@@2bad4uxxtwobad4uxx2 it ain't cheap, sadly....but an upgrade I'm barrel alone can be 300 bucks
This is cool. If I want to SBR it, does my pistol become the SBR or is the chassis the SBR?
The pistol becomes the SBR
So basically this turns your Glock into a scorpion. With more mags. Cool idea if you already have a Glock. This platform with a g31 or 32 would be a great SBR.
It says the IMI Defense Kidon stock isn't available in the USA does anybody know what's up with that?
I was interested until about the 5 minute mark. I'm sure that trigger is garbage. I know the Roni isn't the best but I like mine. I was looking to change but not to this. I'm not a fan of bullpups because of the crap trigger. But he did a good job of reviewing this platform.
Do you have to register this with the ATF?
How is the supressor mounted it looks like the barrel isnt even close to the end of the chassie
Why don't they make one with a brace instead of a stock?
It's sad that amazing things like this are coming out as we see pistol brace registration in the pipeline
Well this aged well…
@@thepeoplesupdates676 :(
So I picked up that you claim it is accurate less than 25 yards? So are you saying with a riffle optic it is only accurate for - 25 yards? That's expensive for basically a pistols range.
Thank you so much for the review. It was very informative, educational and significantly help me make my decision on whether to purchase one of these devices. Regarding the Kidon folding stock, you mentioned registering P-IX as an SBR and I was curious how you did that. The P-IX is a non NFA item and doesn't come with a serial number, so did you use the Glock's serial number on the AFT forms when you registered it as an SBR? I appreciate your insight on how to register the P-IX as an SBR because I'd like to do the same thing. KUDOS again on your review!!
You are correct with the registering the Glock serial number. Technically this is the firearm and that is what becomes the SBR. I also appreciate the feedback on the review.
@@code4defense745 Thanks for the confirmation!!!
Why would it have to be registered as an SBR?
Looks like the can is moving and shifting A LOT. Does it stay on target? Looks wonky
It looks that way because the barrel on a Glock tilts back as the action cycles. It isn’t unstable.
Hello Code 4 Defense question for you Sr. I have a recovery tactical but I would like to add that Strike Dual Folding stock! Where I can find it.
You can order a threaded AR butt stock hindge
I see the can moving when you shoot I guess haven’t noticed it when I hold the handgun regular looks exaggerated in the kit
It does a bit. It’s just the tilting barrel action of the Glock. This system just allowed for you to account for recoil much easier.
@@code4defense745 yeah Ik that was why I figured it wasn’t just flopping just seems more visible now that you have a more controllable weapon
Sir do u have chasis pix for cal.45 1911 standard n high cup ?
Hello
do you think this platform can fit the Glock igb 16in barrels if installed in the Glock?
Yes
@@Recovertactical
Thanks a lot !!!
Nice to see the company reach right out.
@@code4defense745
I know man that’s really dope. Definitely getting 1.
does it have enough empty space in the kit that would allow the fitting of a glock switch?
Not unless you modify or mold a larger charging handle
Does the charging handle need to OEM size sights or will it fit over aftermarket sights?
It fits some aftermarket, but mostly oem. Not tall suppressor sights
I can see why people would want it, but it doesn’t seem like the type of long gun I would grab if in need. I own a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 (rare now) however I never use it. If I needed a long gun even in home defense, I would grab my Mini-14 or even a Shotgun. It is neat though. I like Recover Tactical products, I own 1 of everything they have for the 1911 and like their products but I just don’t see the need for this. A nice toy, I suppose.
I agree with you completely. I have one of their other systems and other 9mm options. This seems bulky and just not very much the option I would choose, as it doesn't even add barrel length to justify the increased size.
Do you think you increase wear and tear on the pistol with that large suppressor?
Eh… maybe. The handgun in this video already has about 10,000 rounds through it though so I doubt it.
Was it me or was that extended barrel moving independently when being shot🤔
I have the same thought and after thinking about it I came to the conclusion that it is because of the barrel moving at every shot for cycling (sorry for my bad English)
Do they make one for a Glock 20?!
Wantdat lighter smaller version wit light tan or grn stead of black parts or grey
Does it fit a Glock23 Gen5?
how did you put those stock? is it supposed be for normal M4stock!?
It threads in where the buffer tube would go
Great for Glocks but what about Beretta m9's??
What stock have you installed on your P-IX?
It’s the folding stock from the Kidon series of Glock chassis
@@code4defense745 Thanks dude 👍🏻
Does this conversation considered an SBR now?
Yes
Is this legal in cali
12:45
Is it me or is your suppressor shaking?
It just looks that way. The action on the Glock barrel moves, and causes the suppressor to tilt between shots
is this compatible with a G21 Gen 4? Thanks.
I am not sure. I think you would have to refer to their website.
Where can i order that folding stock ?
I just searched Kidon folding stock on google and found what I needed. Unfortunately the RUclips gods won’t let me link accessory’s like this.
@@code4defense745 thank you 👍
Where are the issues sights that come with the kit??????????????????? Incomplete review
Is this considered an SBR now?
Yes
Is this compatible with glock 17L?
Not sure
isn't this a SBF i see a stock and no 16 in barrel ??? any clarification on this isn't this illegal, because i want to get one ASAP??
It’s a short barreled rifle
put the glock switch in and you'll have a good times
compatible for 19x ?
Yes they are
Is this legal in California ?
I’m not sure that anything is legal in California
That suppressor too flimsy
Id consider this thing nothing more that a range toy. great idea.. poor design / execution. while i never had any functionality or cycling issues, overall there is a lot to be improved on. Mainly the trigger mech. it is god awful. it's comparable to that of a nerf gun. i beefed up the section that meets the glock trigger, installed a stronger spring on the rear. those mods only made it slightly better. the Top rail being sectioned rather than continuous is another issue. it's way too flimsy. i was able to push my red dot to the side with about 1/4" of flex using a single finger. to alieviate this i ran a riser/bridge along the entire top. which must be taken off everytime i wish to remove my pistol. Roni may not look as cool but functionality and construction and the fact that it uses the glocks actual trigger is far more important to me than looks. I'll choose the roni any day over the pix.
I don't see the point. I have a chassis for my glock, which you folks made and sold, that only holds the glock itself.
So, why add more unnecessary plastic and bulk and weight? Seems well enough engineered but self defeating. Your 20 20, 20 21 systems do this same job more efficiently. And far more discreetly.
Just my 2 cents.
I am actually planning on doing a video for this exact topic
Both of them have there pros and cons
@@IWinY0UL0se that's very true. I just prefer less bulk and complication to meet the same end.
Well I tried to force a gen 4 in it…no go…😞👎
That’s interesting. What model. The one in the video is a gen 4 22 with a 9mm conversion barrel
@@code4defense745 Also wondering what type of gen 4? I am thinking he had suppressor sights or something similar
I have a 19 gen 4 and mine works flawlessly! This thing is honestly very accurate and so much fun to shoot.
Caa Mck is WAY better!
Want1
Meta Tactical Apex
My guns are better
Fix that barrel please.. its realy anoying
There actually isn’t anything wrong with the barrel. It’s just the barrel tilting in locking block It only looks so drastic from the length of the can.
kewl idea but not for California
cuz DEMOcrats
Unfortunately not many cool things are for California
Man I'm surprised you have so many positive things to say about this. I know you had a lot of negatives too, but damn this thing in nothing but a crappy toy, in my opinion. I was so exited about it when I saw it at shot show and pre ordered as soon as pre orders were open, but this junk is probably the most disappointing gun product I have ever bought. I will likely sell it, with the Glock I built specifically for it. Now, the reason I will NEVER buy anything from Recover again, is I left a review, reflecting my disappointment only to find out that they choose to approve them, or not. Of coarse they didn't approve mine, or anyone else's who was anything less than five stars. Just another shit gun accessory company with no integrity. Anyway, thanks for the fair video.
You know what they say, you can't please all the people all the time. One guy likes a product and finds a use for it, another one thinks it is a "crappy toy". I can only comment on my own personal experience of firing thousands of rounds through one over the last few months, it is not a toy, and it is accurate and flawless when the instructions and recommendations for use are followed. It is a "Catch 22", we make the P-IX out of a very high grade, lightweight glass reinforced polymer, and you call it a "crappy toy", or we can make it out of heavier material that is not as sturdy and people will say "it is too heavy", it is a “lose lose” sometimes. I am not looking for sympathy, I am just trying to explain our position and logic behind why something is designed and made a certain way.
As for the integrity, we offer an unconditional 90 day return policy, you do not like it, send it back for a full refund (minus shipping). We list that return policy all over our website, no one here is trying to make you keep something you are not satisfied with, money is hard to come by, you don't like something of ours simply request a return by emailing service@recovertactical.com.
A lot of time, effort and money goes into making a complicated product like the P-IX, you call it a "crappy toy", but there is a ton of R&D (2 years’ worth) that goes in to making it as lightweight with as few moving parts as possible. Everything on the P-IX is there for a reason and everything not on the P-IX is not there for a reason. There are many ways to make it more complicated, but then it would defeat the purpose of the product which is a lightweight tool designed to enhance the usability of your firearm in CQC situations.
If you are looking for an overly complicated product, then this is not for you, if you are looking for a simple product that works and is durable then the P-IX fits that bill.
As for your review, it was not approved (two of the comments you made in your review were due to you not following the instructions, not because of the product itself, ie not securing the grip with the supplied hardware then complaining that the grip is loose), we moderate comments on our website as do most other companies, 99% of reviews we do let through (and if you look at our products on Amazon you will see thousands of reviews with almost all over a 4+ star average), but the reality is that it is our website and our platform, and we are allowed to control the message. Once again, if you feel you were “ripped off” or if we sold you a product you are not 100% satisfied with then you are encouraged to return it, no one is trying to fool you or to steal your money.
We do our best to think outside of the box and make innovative products, this take a lot of time, money and effort and we all know how much the gun community likes change (that was sarcasm). Once again, while I am not looking for sympathy, I am looking for a little understanding, we are constantly modifying and tweaking our products to improve them and the P-IX is no different. All I ask is that you remain civil, no need to throw insults. Thank you for the purchase Mr. Sheepdog, sorry we let you down and I look forward to seeing your return.
@@Recovertactical It's nice that you gave out your email address ... now, if you would only respond to emails from 3 days ago!!!
@@RealRickyRoss we reply to ever email within 24 hours Monday-Friday, did you check your spam folder? Please write again in case we missed it
Sorry your experience hasn’t been a great one. I like to try and come at these things from a truly unbiased perspective. Like I said in the notes we bought this on our own, and recover never actually reached out to us to bring a review.
Look up a real review these things are very junky and very cheaply made beware
Sadly the pix is garbage
Great review ..