The main purpose for the mounting screw on the rotors is for safety on the assembly line in the factory. The rotors can fall off and seriously hurt or kill workers in the factory. The screw has nothing to do with the performance or use. You’re good.
Hey brother I recently bought a 2012 x5m like yours, and I thought same thing as you, those original rotors are just too simple looking, I was searching for rotors to install and i didn’t know I could use original rotors from a different chassis, it looks amazing your video helps a lot and I really love the way you made the video without waisting time, straight to the purpose of the video my respect ✊
Thank's Alex for your help. I hope you can find a fix. The car l'm getting is carbon black I will be changing the chrome to shadow chrome. I'm a retired panel beater, spray painter & restorer. I'll be painting all the chrome I have no choice because I'm should I can't buy them like you did & it will be the only one around with the shadow chrome. The brake's have 11ks to go & I'm thinking the original pad's & rotors are the way to go because there cross drilled & the pad's have to match. If everything is the same size it should be all good & I will test drive a used f85 to see if there's any noise.
Hello, this is a very nice video thank you for sharing. I have an E71 X6M was just thinking about same upgrade. 04:38 the E70 screw was too big for F85 rotors, did you ended up buy F85 screws? Or maybe its like you said even without screw it should be fine? Again super nice video, and glad you uploaded them!
Hello! Thank you for your comment. I had bigger screws in my garage. Not sure where I got them, but I had them. In regard to brake rotors backing shim, I did not buy it. I used a parts list that I found on BMW forums. That list of parts didn’t have it.
Are they f85 (x5m) brake pads? And are the brake pads from bmw? Because I don't like the brake's to make noise. My one's are still original & don't make noise but I have to change them soon & I like what you did but I'm worried about noise. You do a good job every time & clean too.
Thank you for your comment. No these are E70 X5M pads, and they are not by BMW. They do make noise. I'm looking for better solution as well. The noise from these pads drives me nuts :) sounds like school bus :)
How well are they performing since the installation? I know they tend to vibrate a little even slightly in the beginning still. Thanks for sharing the insight on installing the newer brake discs on the older E70
Hello, I really like the way they perform. Much better than old ones. They look awesome. No vibration. Even my wife says new brakes work much better than old ones. But, "school bus" e70 x5m squeaking brakes noise still there :)
Thanks for sharing this amazing video, could you please share a link of the shop from were u ordered ur items, and also please mention exactly what are the exact items needed for rotors and pads, also whether they are Bmw genuine brand or something else. Thanks
Thank you for your comment! Here are the links to all parts and prices: All parts are BMW genuine except the rear brake sensor and pads. www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/front-brake-rotors-pair-395x36/34112284901kt/ www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/front-brake-pad-set/34116799964/ www.ecstuning.com/b-uro-parts/rear-brake-pad-wear-sensor/34356789505~uro/ www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/front-brake-pad-wear-sensor/34356792568/ www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/rear-brake-rotors-pair-385x24/34212284904kt/
I looked up the invoice and these what I have now: www.ecstuning.com/b-pagid-parts/front-brake-pad-set/34116799964~hla/ They were a little bit cheaper than OEM (genuine BMW).
Nice video!!! I have a e70 trying to do this same conversation. Dealer said the f85 rotors won’t fit in the e70 brake calipers, did you have to change the calipers too? Also did you have to do any calibration to the brake? Do you have the item number for the rotos and brake sensor?
@@tonitovazquez87 They will fit, there are several forum threads on various BMW forums with people running F85 rotors on E70 X5Ms. Dealership won't do it because on F85 rotors mounting bolts are a little bit different, and of course, part numbers are different.
All that is needed to do the full conversion is the x5 m f85 rotors, x5 m front and rear brake pads, plus the brake pad sensors? Did you have to add brake fluid ? Did you need to replace o purchase “rotos backing shim”?
Yes, those are the parts that you need. You don’t have to add brake fluid because you don’t have to disconnect tubes from calipers. I had mine secured in a wheel well.
Do the f85 brake pad's fit the x5m e70? If they do I would buy the original one from bmw. I had a skyline r34 gtt with the original brake's never made any noise till I replaced all the brake's it was unbearable to put up with & after one month I went back to the shop & he exchanged for heavy duty one's no difference. Nothing makes me so angry like nosey brake's.
When I was buying all the parts it showed a different part number for F85 pads vs E70 X5M. But, I assume they would work, because rotors and calipers are the same size as on E70 X5M. I read on forums that some owners had this issue escalated to BMW of North America, and several people had their pads replaced for free. I will definitely address this annoying issue, saving it for my video of "5 things I hate about our X5M" haha :)
Hi, I know from another video of yours you complained about the brakes squeaking. Maybe some plasti lube on the piston side f the brake pads could help.
@@EliteBimmers 56k km (34k miles) ! Every option, 416 carbon black, black full leather. Only update is 21” style 612. Im doing the Android screen, but thats it
I know what you mean, but cannot remember the size. Looked on realoem, and it is not very clear: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=GY03-USA-05-2010-E70-BMW-X5_M&diagId=31_0786
No, if you just want to swap rotors. Yes, if you buy M calipers. More information: xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e70-forum/80882-does-x5m-brakes-fit-x5-4-8i-4.html
FYI - I did this and the car was not driveable. 2014 e71 x6m - I bought all OEM BMW f86 rotors installed them and the front ones shook so much under braking it was not driveable. Tried both the e71 and f86 set screws. Waste of nearly $2,000.
😳 sad that you had a negative experience with this. Screws don't do much. Older BMWs do not have any screws holding brake rotors. It is the first negative experience I hear about this swap. Sorry to hear that. I followed this forum thread: www.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1201412 As of right now over 20k miles with these rotors zero issues.
Intro 00:00 - 00:19
Unboxing 00:19 - 02:11
Overview 02:11 - 02:57
Front rotors installation 02:57 - 05:27
Front brake pads installation 05:27 - 07:46
Front suspension inspection 07:46 - 08:29
Rear rotors and brake pads installation 08:29 - 09:53
Service reset 09:53 - 11:09
Final look 11:09 - 11:47
The main purpose for the mounting screw on the rotors is for safety on the assembly line in the factory. The rotors can fall off and seriously hurt or kill workers in the factory. The screw has nothing to do with the performance or use. You’re good.
Hey brother I recently bought a 2012 x5m like yours, and I thought same thing as you, those original rotors are just too simple looking, I was searching for rotors to install and i didn’t know I could use original rotors from a different chassis, it looks amazing your video helps a lot and I really love the way you made the video without waisting time, straight to the purpose of the video my respect ✊
Thank you for your kind words!
Thank's Alex for your help. I hope you can find a fix. The car l'm getting is carbon black I will be changing the chrome to shadow chrome. I'm a retired panel beater, spray painter & restorer. I'll be painting all the chrome I have no choice because I'm should I can't buy them like you did & it will be the only one around with the shadow chrome. The brake's have 11ks to go & I'm thinking the original pad's & rotors are the way to go because there cross drilled & the pad's have to match. If everything is the same size it should be all good & I will test drive a used f85 to see if there's any noise.
Very good video, well structured and explained with good details. Thanks for posting
You're welcome!
Should be able to use a stud adapter kit for the wheels then you wont need the set screw for the rear
I dig the videos! Do yourself a favor and get some puck jacks for the jack points. Watching the lower side skirts flex had me holding my breath.
Will do! Thank you for the comment!
Hello, this is a very nice video thank you for sharing. I have an E71 X6M was just thinking about same upgrade. 04:38 the E70 screw was too big for F85 rotors, did you ended up buy F85 screws? Or maybe its like you said even without screw it should be fine? Again super nice video, and glad you uploaded them!
Also noticed F86 had a "Brake Rotor Backing Shim", i see you didnt buy this part, was it just not necessary or it wont fit E70 hub? thank you!
Hello! Thank you for your comment. I had bigger screws in my garage. Not sure where I got them, but I had them. In regard to brake rotors backing shim, I did not buy it. I used a parts list that I found on BMW forums. That list of parts didn’t have it.
Monster brakes, great SUV
Thanks!
Are they f85 (x5m) brake pads? And are the brake pads from bmw? Because I don't like the brake's to make noise. My one's are still original & don't make noise but I have to change them soon & I like what you did but I'm worried about noise. You do a good job every time & clean too.
Thank you for your comment. No these are E70 X5M pads, and they are not by BMW. They do make noise. I'm looking for better solution as well. The noise from these pads drives me nuts :) sounds like school bus :)
How well are they performing since the installation? I know they tend to vibrate a little even slightly in the beginning still. Thanks for sharing the insight on installing the newer brake discs on the older E70
Hello, I really like the way they perform. Much better than old ones. They look awesome. No vibration. Even my wife says new brakes work much better than old ones.
But, "school bus" e70 x5m squeaking brakes noise still there :)
Thanks for sharing this amazing video, could you please share a link of the shop from were u ordered ur items, and also please mention exactly what are the exact items needed for rotors and pads, also whether they are Bmw genuine brand or something else.
Thanks
Did u order the same original pads or it’s other brand and type
Thank you for your comment! Here are the links to all parts and prices:
All parts are BMW genuine except the rear brake sensor and pads.
www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/front-brake-rotors-pair-395x36/34112284901kt/
www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/front-brake-pad-set/34116799964/
www.ecstuning.com/b-uro-parts/rear-brake-pad-wear-sensor/34356789505~uro/
www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/front-brake-pad-wear-sensor/34356792568/
www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/rear-brake-rotors-pair-385x24/34212284904kt/
I looked up the invoice and these what I have now:
www.ecstuning.com/b-pagid-parts/front-brake-pad-set/34116799964~hla/
They were a little bit cheaper than OEM (genuine BMW).
@@EliteBimmers so u have installed not BMW genuine right ?
Yes, you’re right, non-BMW.
Awesome! so F85 rotors are exact fit on e70 M w/o modification or additional parts?
Almost. The only thing you need F85 mounting screws for front rotors. For the rear ones, you won’t be able to use any screws.
Nice video!!! I have a e70 trying to do this same conversation. Dealer said the f85 rotors won’t fit in the e70 brake calipers, did you have to change the calipers too? Also did you have to do any calibration to the brake? Do you have the item number for the rotos and brake sensor?
Hello, do you have E70 M model? The one with S63 engine (555hp)?
EliteBimmers yes I have the 2010 e70 x5M
@@tonitovazquez87 They will fit, there are several forum threads on various BMW forums with people running F85 rotors on E70 X5Ms. Dealership won't do it because on F85 rotors mounting bolts are a little bit different, and of course, part numbers are different.
All that is needed to do the full conversion is the x5 m f85 rotors, x5 m front and rear brake pads, plus the brake pad sensors? Did you have to add brake fluid ? Did you need to replace o purchase “rotos backing shim”?
Yes, those are the parts that you need. You don’t have to add brake fluid because you don’t have to disconnect tubes from calipers. I had mine secured in a wheel well.
Do the f85 brake pad's fit the x5m e70? If they do I would buy the original one from bmw. I had a skyline r34 gtt with the original brake's never made any noise till I replaced all the brake's it was unbearable to put up with & after one month I went back to the shop & he exchanged for heavy duty one's no difference. Nothing makes me so angry like nosey brake's.
When I was buying all the parts it showed a different part number for F85 pads vs E70 X5M. But, I assume they would work, because rotors and calipers are the same size as on E70 X5M.
I read on forums that some owners had this issue escalated to BMW of North America, and several people had their pads replaced for free. I will definitely address this annoying issue, saving it for my video of "5 things I hate about our X5M" haha :)
Hi, I know from another video of yours you complained about the brakes squeaking. Maybe some plasti lube on the piston side f the brake pads could help.
Thank you! I already bought new pads, went with different brand, need to replace them and will report back.
@@EliteBimmers i just bougt myself a X5m 2011, take delivery tomorrow :)
Nice! How many miles? Which color? Any upgrades/tunes already installed?
@@EliteBimmers 56k km (34k miles) ! Every option, 416 carbon black, black full leather. Only update is 21” style 612.
Im doing the Android screen, but thats it
@@farturinn Wow! What a find! Such a low km car! The android screen is on my list as well.
Hey you have 31000 miles on your xm how sid you get check light all ready?
Not sure I understand correctly, but these rotors were great on my X5M.
@@EliteBimmers I have them on my 2013 X5 m s63 no issues
How is it holding up now? any uneven warping?
I sold this car two years ago…
лайк =подписка!!!
I'm glad to see you here :) my friend
Where do u order all your brakes rotors and brakes pads I have x6M 2014 is it same
Hello, I got everything ordered from ECStuning.com. Yes, X6M is the same parts numbers as shown in the video X5M.
Can you use the stock carrier from the e70?
If it’s E70 X5M or E71 X6M car yes, the carrier can be reused.
But if it’s a regular E70/E71 you would need to upgrade carriers.
@@EliteBimmers what are you calling the 'carrier.'. hub , spindle, ?
The carrier as in the caliper.
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Did you reuse the rotor screw from your stock for the new f86 screw hole?
You cannot reuse old screws. New ones needed. I didn’t buy it because I had a spare set in my garage.
@@EliteBimmers but the new ones were for your original stock screws correct? or you got the f86 rotor screw?
Yes, new ones for F86 rotors.
Can you please provide the part number for those specific screws to those rotors
Where did you get your parts pls
I got mine from ecstuning.com
@@EliteBimmers they do not seem to be available on their website any longer.
What size was the carrier bolts?
I know what you mean, but cannot remember the size. Looked on realoem, and it is not very clear: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=GY03-USA-05-2010-E70-BMW-X5_M&diagId=31_0786
@@EliteBimmers so which one of them ? Can't tell from that diagram. thank you
mapcoxog Bolts on E70 X5M are E type, E18.
Would this work for non M e70?
No, if you just want to swap rotors. Yes, if you buy M calipers. More information: xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e70-forum/80882-does-x5m-brakes-fit-x5-4-8i-4.html
Where did you get the rotors from I have a 2011 X5M
I bought the ones on video from ECSTuning.
FYI - I did this and the car was not driveable.
2014 e71 x6m - I bought all OEM BMW f86 rotors installed them and the front ones shook so much under braking it was not driveable. Tried both the e71 and f86 set screws. Waste of nearly $2,000.
😳 sad that you had a negative experience with this.
Screws don't do much. Older BMWs do not have any screws holding brake rotors.
It is the first negative experience I hear about this swap. Sorry to hear that.
I followed this forum thread: www.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1201412
As of right now over 20k miles with these rotors zero issues.
Never once did he mention the tools used for the DIY.