How to Use a Drawing Tablet

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @JMulvy
    @JMulvy 2 года назад +186

    I love the humor and animation in these videos. Even though a lot of this will no longer be of use to me at this point, I am still going to watch every video. Thanks Brad! btw, I played a dungeon of Elder Scrolls Online on my tablet once, no problem. My tip: learn how to properly hold your pen. The way we are taught to hold it for writing, to make small, precise, detailed curves, is not conducive to the free, flowing, sweeping movements needed in drawing and or painting. If you only move your fingers or finger tips you will limit your range of motion and fatigue your hand and wrist to the point of pain. Relax your grip, try a different grip, include your elbow and possibly even your shoulder if needed. It took me just over a year of practice but I finally feel like I got it down and I even have a nice new callous to show for it. 😅

  • @johnhoskins7335
    @johnhoskins7335 Год назад +31

    This video made me feel sooo much better! Watching Brad, the pro, made the same wobbly lines I do was awesome. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong, besides not having enough practice. Turns out, it's just a very sensitive device.

  • @eddiewestdraws8197
    @eddiewestdraws8197 Год назад +10

    I'm a digital artist myself and just got a tablet today, got to say I'm surprised on how quickly I picked it up, and I really enjoy how drawing on the tablet feels rather than just my screen

  • @elescritornomada
    @elescritornomada 2 года назад +58

    Very useful information, thanks.
    I use an Huion tablet and Krita.
    I still learning but I'm doing better every week, I love to try and experiment with the different types of pencils.

    • @animegurlmbp
      @animegurlmbp 2 года назад

      I just bought a drawing tablet (the green one he was using but the blue version [Deco MW]) and I also use Krita for both my laptop and tablet

    • @bigbrainsheep9083
      @bigbrainsheep9083 9 месяцев назад

      same :D

  • @Kogami
    @Kogami 2 года назад +58

    This is a great roundup of advice, great job! I mostly use the tracing pencil sketch and playing with Osu advice when I first started out and I'm glad to see it recommended here!
    And for those learning: Don't sweat if it takes some time to get used to your tablet! I know most of my friends got used to theirs within a week or two but I frankly took a month to get used the hand eye coordination. We all learn things at a different pace, so the key is to keep using your tablet :)

  • @xnajx
    @xnajx 2 года назад +17

    Even though I'm not a beginner I still love watching your videos and how you explain it simply to the audience. I'm a designer and the best part about using a tablet for me is that is takes pressure off my hands. For a period of time I stopped using it and just used a mouse which caused my hand to really hurt from all the clicking and moving. The soft tissue between the thumb and first finger has become quite tense which has caused some thumb stiffness. YAY RSI!

  • @ZekLullaby
    @ZekLullaby 2 года назад +23

    I hope the art class kids come back in future videos. Do they have names?
    This is very valuable information, even with years of experience in digital art it's really nice to sit down and enjoy a fun refresher. I'm always looking forward for more videos.

  • @Cryptic0013
    @Cryptic0013 2 года назад +71

    One of my favourite bits of early PC gaming lore is that Microsoft started putting Solitaire on computers back in the 80s because nobody had ever used a mouse before, and they were having a heck of a time getting to grips with it (no pun intended).
    And yet somehow it never occurred to me to actually try playing some card games and whatnot with my tablet. Gonna start doing that and these other exercises *today*.
    Thanks for the video, Brad! This is a huge help, and has actually spurred me to get back to practising with my tablet after I got discouraged in the early going by the steep learning curve and how awful my sketches looked in digital.
    I knew I should keep at it, but everything looked so gnarly that it was hard to get motivated because there were no 'wins'. Perhaps getting some literal wins in a CCG while chalking it up as 'training eye-hand coordination' will get me back on track!

    • @BenjaminAlternate
      @BenjaminAlternate Год назад

      I know the family of the individual who made the solitare game for microsoft! XD

  • @PapiDimple
    @PapiDimple Год назад +17

    If I’m being completely honest, I just ran across your page have watched three videos and absolutely love them all. You’re very open. Very kind very informative. I’ve always wanted to get to into digital drawing, etc. I love anything that has to do with technology and being able to create. I must say it’s not easy in the beginning but your words are so encouraging to get us started. I want to create logos. I want to create digital custom illustrations for my mother. She is a yorkie breeder and having her own website/social media in style it’s just something I would love to do. I’m probably writing so much but I just wanted to thank you I’m going to continue watching you. You have gained a loyal subscriber.🎉❤

  • @eternal1803
    @eternal1803 2 года назад +8

    Sir please post videos regularly at least in a gap of 2 weeks because you are such a good teacher

  • @catrplrstudios5790
    @catrplrstudios5790 2 года назад +4

    Just bought my tablet few days back , there was no better timing for release of this video .thanks Brad ❤️❤️❤️

  • @ghost_twig
    @ghost_twig 2 года назад +12

    This is actually really great. I've had an old tablet like these sitting for years, gathering dust. Thank you for this

  • @Sifter2D
    @Sifter2D 2 года назад +1085

    Everybody talks about drawing tablets, but nobody talks about drawing a tablet.

  • @matthewpeluso6505
    @matthewpeluso6505 2 года назад +5

    replacing my mouse all together helped me. Like for example, I would use it to navigate the web and just learn the boundary of the live area. This is one reason why I recommend a medium tablet over a small one. That being said, you can always make it work if all if can afford is a small one.

  • @czerwonygozdzik3915
    @czerwonygozdzik3915 2 года назад +6

    It's always a joy to watch and learn from you - thanks for the new tips !

  • @cold_horizon
    @cold_horizon 2 года назад +5

    This is exactly what I wanted help with thanks dude. BTW the extra effect on the hair movement was a nice touch

  • @Pufferzsola
    @Pufferzsola 2 года назад +2

    I was so glad that you brought up Huion HS611 as an example! I have one too, and i really love it!

  • @daijishinomori9161
    @daijishinomori9161 2 года назад +9

    Love this! I've use two Huion tablets of different sizes, though I didn't have that big a learning curve somehow. I'm not sure if it helped since I didn't do it very often, but I used to do drawings using a mouse on MS Paint, just for funsies. They don't look great, but they weren't terrible, either.
    I do have a preference of using the smaller tablet, Huion's H430P. I find that navigating the screen is faster because of the smaller work area. As someone who has wrist problems (tenosynovitis), I have the benefit of smaller movements, i.e. minimal strain, with this tablet.
    The exercise you discussed here is new to me. I think I'll benefit from this with my larger tablet. Thanks for sharing!

    • @yunan9610
      @yunan9610 2 года назад +1

      Well, you can adjust the work area with bigger tablets. I have H950p myself. The good thing about the bigger tablet is that I could place the tablet on my lap whenever I have no table and just place my laptop on the ground and I don't have to hunch over

  • @terrymead2122
    @terrymead2122 2 года назад +3

    Outstanding! Your humorous sharing of information is great!

  • @TNGraFix
    @TNGraFix 2 года назад +13

    Tomorrow I'm getting my Drawing Tablet. Thanks for the video mate! 😊

    • @Prukings
      @Prukings 2 года назад +1

      That’s nice

    • @TNGraFix
      @TNGraFix 2 года назад

      @@Prukings Thanks 😊

    • @ultimatpower9143
      @ultimatpower9143 2 года назад +1

      Same inshallah 😂♥️♥️♥️

    • @TNGraFix
      @TNGraFix 2 года назад

      @@ultimatpower9143 Congrats brother ✨

    • @shreyaunnecessarilylonglas607
      @shreyaunnecessarilylonglas607 7 месяцев назад +2

      Did you learn how to draw digital art? I'm having difficulty learning after getting the tablet.

  • @Shorrey
    @Shorrey 10 месяцев назад +1

    Practice helped. And I was surprised how fast it came!

  • @AbelA.García
    @AbelA.García 3 месяца назад +1

    Man this video took me from a 0% to about a 60% proficiency in less than a week! Of course I practiced a lot, but knowing what to expect from the tablet and doing the exercises is a game changer. I appreciate this video, thank you!

  • @Tom_and_Lulu
    @Tom_and_Lulu 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Brad, just what I needed to get the tablet out of the box and have another go. Cheers.

  • @NoobZylis
    @NoobZylis 11 месяцев назад

    im definitely coming to this guy again, i haven’t even got my drawing tablet yet but this guy explained stuff to where i can understand, thanks Brad! ^^

  • @nicetrayyy
    @nicetrayyy 2 года назад +3

    Love your humorous approach Brad. Keep it up!!!

  • @theempireofstud
    @theempireofstud 2 года назад +5

    I love these animations and these videos are very useful!

  • @punkbuster2004
    @punkbuster2004 4 месяца назад

    Oh wow , i only just started looking at digitizer tablet and you helped me a lot for the first steps. Now i am not going toy use it daily, only as a rookie designer for my own stuff

  • @Gloomy_Rain_
    @Gloomy_Rain_ Год назад +1

    Itsy really interesting how you make us understand with easy way and your animation is very nice learned a lot thank you😊

  • @LemonEyesNL
    @LemonEyesNL 2 года назад +1

    Yay finally a video about hoooow to learn to use! Awesome!

  • @nsgames24
    @nsgames24 2 года назад

    2:14
    Dude, that background music was awesome.
    I honestly didn't think I would get into these, but I learned how to get used to mine by using it as a computer mouse for a week.

  • @mactube72
    @mactube72 Год назад

    Best way to teach..funny and easy to understand. Thanks!!

  • @RodrigoDAgostino
    @RodrigoDAgostino 2 года назад +3

    Love your teaching style, Brad!

  • @rahatulation
    @rahatulation 2 года назад +2

    I'm using XP Pen G960S for around 1 year. It is really helpful.

  • @artofk118
    @artofk118 4 месяца назад

    In my experience, getting rid of undo while sketching helps with mastering the pen tablet since it forces me to think about where my line goes next which helps with the control of the tablet.

  • @chrisjpndala7576
    @chrisjpndala7576 2 года назад

    the way you present your videos nice and funny that's why I love them

  • @tegistardis69
    @tegistardis69 Год назад

    an addition to lightining round tip 1 "try ditching your mouse!":
    a couple rounds of Osu! is a good way to get the connection down if you're having problems on the hand-eye coordination disconnection. could likely get the same effect across as a couple days of casual computing/browsing in an hour or two just because of the pace and context being more applicable to real-time tracking and placement, while looking at the cursor on the screen only.
    its like practicing touch-typing but for handwriting and drawing. learning to do it without looking at your hands, but rather the output of your inputs.

  • @helenanilsson5666
    @helenanilsson5666 16 дней назад

    I haven't used a tablet in many years (I quit drawing not long after high school), but now I'm kinda thinking of getting one again. What's mainly holding me back is that one of the more frustrating things about these tablets is that I couldn't rotate my work surface the way I could a plain paper, which is one of the reasons why I quit the tablet even before I quit drawing, and learned to do lineart with the path tool (click on point A, click on point B, adjust the anchors so that the line gets the right curve). With the obvious downside that all lines had completely even thickness unless I put in the extra effort to manually erase a bit of the lines at the thin parts or add ore lines where I wanted them thicker.
    The way I understand it, if I use a drawing pad with a screen I'd be able to swirl around the work surface in a way more similar to how I'd move the paper? Or is it better to just bite the bullet and learn to draw in a static position?

  • @premd8983
    @premd8983 2 года назад

    love the new animation on the mouth keep posting amazing videos

  • @r3ckl3ssofficial
    @r3ckl3ssofficial Год назад +3

    No one really touches on this topic but it feels like I can never do anything I could basically do before. Emphasis on the basic. It’s hard for me to close circles. It’s hard to make a straight line. I can’t make shapes as easily. I use this tablet for Osu but when it comes to drawing I’m terrible. I’m using a small gaimon tablet I heard was good for Osu as I’m a big fan of the game originally. And went ahead to use it for drawing and bleh. My drawingings suck. I’m good at sketches on it but when it comes to using a pen option I can’t go back and erase it, because if I do it doesn’t look as nice as when I use a real life pen. And watching you draw on your tablet that looks like mine gave me hope. Your drawings look amazing and you don’t go back or redo. How’s you master this? I draw on Medibang. I know I won’t get a response on this youtuber but to anyone who also uses a tablet with not screen built into it. How did you overcome this? Please I need help.

  • @thcrtn
    @thcrtn Год назад +1

    It's definitely a 2 left feet situation the first time, I tried to use the lasso ... (More responsive ya!) Turns out it just didn't wanna start. it Made a lil circle of a cursor then started to lasso... But it wasn't the same each time 🤣 I gotta stick to it... I remember learning pliers for jewelry... Now they are like extended fingers with good grip lol so it's possible... The practice drills seem amazing... I'll be doing those b4 I get back to attempting other activities

  • @AlphaGamer1981
    @AlphaGamer1981 Год назад +1

    can you do one about hands? They are probably the hardest to get right, both back hands and front hands

  • @chileanyways196
    @chileanyways196 2 года назад +4

    please do a tutorial on how to draw still life's! like how to draw cubes, pyramids, and any other shape on top of each other

  • @FabehaMohsin-d7n
    @FabehaMohsin-d7n 9 месяцев назад

    The intro was so entertaining 🎉 keep up the good work

  • @ellie_cr
    @ellie_cr 2 года назад +2

    To Do: Accidentlyforce quit chrome he says... 🤣🤣🤣 Done!
    Also, I'm really excited to try your new course! I did your procreate course before & it was awesome. Loved it!

  • @FireflyX5L
    @FireflyX5L Год назад +2

    I swear, if I use one of those tablets I’ll be tapping the actual corner of it (the inactive area lol)
    I have a pretty old Wacom. Rather than having corner marks like that, it’s evident that it’s separate from the inactive area (plastic). Those, on the other hand, only shows you the active area with lil corner marks :)

  • @josiahflenor2257
    @josiahflenor2257 Год назад +2

    You literally need to come back I thought you weren’t cancelled 😭😭😭😭

  • @thill6482
    @thill6482 2 года назад +1

    Can you please make a video on how to draw hands & feet? I feel like these are some of the hardest things to draw.

  • @Lively-Shiro
    @Lively-Shiro 9 дней назад +1

    Me with my yoga laptop holding it like a cave man, and using the pen

  • @minilopkastudios4711
    @minilopkastudios4711 7 месяцев назад +2

    0:38 Wow! It's the exact same tablet I have!

  • @АртемГірман
    @АртемГірман Год назад +1

    I like your advice to use a pen instead of mouse for some time - it really helps you get a graps of movements and your working area on a tablet, thanks you)

  • @mercy7640
    @mercy7640 Год назад +9

    rooke question incoming: do i have to learn how to draw before learning how to use a tablet OR can I learn how to draw while using a tablet? save me someone

    • @mercuryon8608
      @mercuryon8608 2 месяца назад +4

      I hope its not too late but you can learn drawing while also learning how to use the tablet
      Its easier to learn to draw with paper and pen cuz ofc youre already used to them, its like using sticks instead of a fork to eat. To eat you have to learn how to use the tool. I hope this helps (10 months later)

    • @DebarghaBhattacharjeeDB
      @DebarghaBhattacharjeeDB Месяц назад +1

      ​@mercuryon8608 it's helpful for me and others like me that are starting out and watching the video now. Thank you.

    • @animehair05silently88
      @animehair05silently88 26 дней назад

      I'm not an expert yet but there's no reason you can't just do a little with a tablet and a little with just paper too when you start out, yeah

  • @AveryChristmas-f8h
    @AveryChristmas-f8h 10 месяцев назад

    I recently bought a laptop and am considering buying a drawing tablet to connect to it for animating. I have an iPad that I normally use for animating but there are limitations to what software I can use with that. at first I was worried about the learning curve with a non-display tablet as that is what I'm used to, but I came across this video in my researching pen tablets and now I'm not so scared of trying :) thanks a lot this video was very helpful. (and funny too)

  • @ndesanaARTa
    @ndesanaARTa 2 года назад +1

    the way of carrying in the video is very fun, I really like it 🤩🙏

  • @Scoundrel_Plays
    @Scoundrel_Plays Месяц назад +1

    Is there no way to move the cursor with the pen before drawing so you know where it is? Or do you have to guess and then keep erasing if you’re not in the right place

  • @Mii..
    @Mii.. Год назад

    Can you do a tutorial on how to draw different hairstyles, and maybe hair types?

  • @creativejoe_studios
    @creativejoe_studios 2 месяца назад

    This was very useful. Thank you

  • @alessandracaldeiradealmeid6827
    @alessandracaldeiradealmeid6827 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much, I really needed some help as beginner

  • @geanysoares3042
    @geanysoares3042 2 года назад +1

    Great video it’s fun and informative!!!!
    I’m looking into get something that will work with procreate, I have a Chromebook , so any advice on iPad with good amount of layers and not too old for updates that won’t break the bank? Thank you 😊

  • @SoulSearch11110
    @SoulSearch11110 Год назад

    Very entertaining video. What's that wrapped around your hand and what is it's purpose?

  • @user-op8fg3ny3j
    @user-op8fg3ny3j 2 года назад +2

    Where I struggle is when I need to rotate the canvas on screen but then I don't know what angle corresponds on the physical tablet

  • @joehoandroid
    @joehoandroid 2 года назад +2

    I like your videos very much!
    And I am still flabbergasted that animated Brad has now a mouth to talk.

  • @Camyhdz
    @Camyhdz 2 года назад +1

    Hey brad can you please do a video about eyes on paper drawing? Thanks

  • @sloth451
    @sloth451 2 года назад

    Great tips Brad! thank you 🖌

  • @rowl97865
    @rowl97865 11 месяцев назад

    really!! Thanks a lot!!
    just it took one video to clear mountains of confusion

  • @meowsers-h5f
    @meowsers-h5f 6 дней назад +1

    "i has your cat" LMFAO

  • @Middle_OfMay
    @Middle_OfMay Год назад

    thx so much I was actually ganna buy one of those for myself to start self-taught animating but I needed to know if they were good so this vid helped a lot 1+ sub!

  • @mort0303
    @mort0303 2 года назад +2

    What's a good set up for the tablet and screen? Should they be close together like a laptop, or spread apart? What about angles, should I tilt the tablet?

    • @Scruffi
      @Scruffi 2 года назад +1

      All that is probably going to come down to personal preference. You have to decide what works best for you. I would suggest that whatever setup you decide on, you should keep it consistent. You'll be developing a new sense of hand-eye coordination - drawing in one place while the art appears in another (I mean it's similar to using a mouse - your hand moves on the desk and the pointer moves on the screen). Personally, I would place my tablet to the right of my laptop so it was located where a mouse would be (I'm right-handed), and push the tablet up against the laptop edge so they would always be squared up with each other. That consistency helped me find that hand-eye coordination more quickly and felt more natural than other options. But a lot of people I've worked with would keep their tablet directly in front of them, between them and their keyboard. So it's a matter of preference.

  • @dj_nomen311
    @dj_nomen311 Год назад +1

    1:00 "when did we get a budget for a ladder?" 🤣💀

  • @ThatOneOddGuy
    @ThatOneOddGuy Год назад +2

    I have a huion g930L
    Give me tips
    It's difficult ot draw since ei can't rotate it when drawing curves

  • @ducksushi2427
    @ducksushi2427 Год назад

    Thanks man, I really needed that.

  • @sadev101
    @sadev101 10 месяцев назад

    you're the best on art

  • @drocaan8746
    @drocaan8746 Год назад +1

    You had me in the first 9 seconds of your video ! Well done 🫶🫶

  • @CursedLexy
    @CursedLexy Год назад +2

    I have two screens one is laptop and one us monitor every time I need to duplicate my screen lol

  • @carolinecheney
    @carolinecheney Год назад

    I have a drawing tablet on the way cause I want to learn to use one. For the past (almost) two years, I’ve been using my iPad to draw and animate (I got it for Christmas and I use IbisPaint and FlipaClip), but I want to learn to use one cause I know I’d have to use one in the future. Got one over a year ago, but I’ve only tried it two times and went back to my iPad. A few months later, it wouldn’t work, which is why I got another one now. Sorry for the rant.

  • @thphtr
    @thphtr 27 дней назад

    Hello Brad,
    When I open Krita app on a Samsung tablet, I don’t have the keyboard. I was wondering where the Control button is? I need it to “Control + Click” to set the source of the Clone engine.
    Thank you very much.

  • @barbarabarlee
    @barbarabarlee Год назад +1

    I got my daughter a drawing tablet and I didn't know how to help her learn to use it. I am sharing your videos to her now. Thank you for posting.

  • @BenjaminAlternate
    @BenjaminAlternate Год назад

    I was adjusted immediately! I used to Swordfight with my brother a lot, as well as a bunch of other hand-eye coordination activities.
    So, I thought--Well, no use spending money on a fancy one if this works just fine for me! XD

  • @tx59DavidH
    @tx59DavidH Год назад

    I have never been able to figure out how you find a particular spot on your picture once you lift your pen up. If you need to be at a very specific spot how can you find it when the tablet is a blank page? It would be easier if the picture showed up on the tablet too.

  • @lymstudiosartistnbo
    @lymstudiosartistnbo 2 года назад +1

    Hi brad. This is very awesome.😀👍👍👍👍

  • @jonde_o
    @jonde_o 2 года назад +1

    I used to own a Cintiq 16 but i gifted it to my sister and started to use drawing tablet from XP Pen (one of those with bluetooth)
    One of the smartest choices i have made in my artist life as its so much better for my wrists and neck :)

  • @sauci-loop
    @sauci-loop 2 года назад

    Oh, I've been waiting for you to post again!

  • @SL2797
    @SL2797 9 месяцев назад +2

    3:30: We are going to practice drawing BOOBIES!!

  • @deltafour1212
    @deltafour1212 2 года назад +1

    This is a godsend!

  • @yunan9610
    @yunan9610 2 года назад +2

    Biggest thing about the tablets is that signing documents became so simple

  • @demonheart13
    @demonheart13 2 года назад +4

    I would love to see someone play elden ring on a drawing tablet and stream it

  • @wonskrad7240
    @wonskrad7240 11 месяцев назад

    subbed!
    i thought a drawing tablet, replaces a paper where you can just directly draw/right onto it as if you're using ipad or samsung note.
    but in reality, drawing tablets are just track pads/ touch-pads.
    or am i missing something here? is there a drawing tablet where i can use photoshop and directly draw onto it (without using another monitor)?

  • @angadsngh01
    @angadsngh01 9 месяцев назад

    How do you use animations? Would love to learn that along with digital sketching.
    Cheers!

  • @twebuas
    @twebuas Год назад +1

    What colour is your tablet?
    Pls gimme a link to the tablet u r using(Amazon link)

  • @mrakaardiansyah2472
    @mrakaardiansyah2472 2 года назад

    Dang,youre finally back. I thought there will be no more tutorials anymore

  • @BenjaminAlternate
    @BenjaminAlternate Год назад

    I highly recommend using it as a mouse for whatever you do on your computer to get used to it, for example:
    Play chess online with a tablet! the grid nature of chess helps you be accurate!

  • @canlevi9615
    @canlevi9615 2 года назад

    İ used so many years graphic tablet before cintiq was a thing, but man ur videos so good i am here watching and pretending like learning🤣😂

  • @pdhowler
    @pdhowler 2 года назад +1

    Brad, great stuff. I was wondering if you'd consider trying some drawing, inking, animating with dogwaffle. Project Dogwaffle. Such as PD Howler?

  • @vFrixtoNOp
    @vFrixtoNOp Год назад +1

    Which size of the graphic tablet is best for beginners

  • @aster8537
    @aster8537 Год назад

    really helpful advice, thank you

  • @daemeonation3018
    @daemeonation3018 2 года назад

    Yeah. This is good. Have to get used to this tablet.

  • @rivarogers7869
    @rivarogers7869 8 месяцев назад

    I need to know the brush you're using for the pressure one

  • @agauerm
    @agauerm 10 месяцев назад +1

    Having to guess where to put the pen is too much of a hassle, I prefer the tablets with screen.

    • @Froslev45
      @Froslev45 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah I tried with a screenless now for like one week. And its so uncomfortable, really annoying so I returned it ans got a Xppen 16 inch instead

  • @MrSonicTeam
    @MrSonicTeam Год назад

    It's interesting how people find graphic tablets to be a bit hard to learn
    When I got my very own, I was blasting through, I just needed to know how pressure sensitivity works and that's it
    It's very important to point out you don't NEED to look at your graphics tablet, It's literally a slab with nothing on it.
    it's better to just look at the cursor and see how it moves rather than feeling the margins.

  • @prathameshrana2099
    @prathameshrana2099 2 года назад

    Sir cam you make video of how to get used to any drawing softwar being a beginner i too complicated to use it

  • @bradleejames5859
    @bradleejames5859 2 года назад +1

    My name is Bradlee too!