Elegant, High Quality & Lightweight Build
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- This is the bike for the modern curious. All the mod cons, but with respect to the heritage and feel of the bikes from the 2000s.
This Build:
@TheTimeSport Alp D'Huez 23 (size M, Carbon Black)
Shimano 12speed Ultegra 50/34 and 11-34
@rotoruk3259 4624 Ceramic Bottom Bracket
VENN 30 TCD SL Disc Rims (24 hole)
@TuneDe KillHill and ClimbHill 24 hole Hubs
Sapim CX Ray Spokes with 12mm Hex Brass Nipples
Continental GP5000 clincher tyres
Pirelli Smarttube TPU Tubes
Deda SuperZero Carbon Seatpost
Deda Superbox Stem (100)
Deda DCR Headset
Deda Zero 100 Handlebar (40cm)
ProLogo Naga Saddle
ProLogo OneTouch Bar Tape
Total Weight without Pedals, 7.45kg (might of weighed without bartape now I think about it)
Customer Supplied Pedals, LOOK Keo Max (260g)
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I'd take the Alp D'Huez over the S-Works SL8 any day of the week!!!
Love watching this chap at work! His clear love of cycling coupled with amazing technical knowledge and skill make it so entertaining. Best thing is, I don’t have a bike! #betterthanNetflix
Thank you
Forgive me, I believe your mic is peaking. Try turning down the gain or make sure the cable is fully isolated and clean at the connectors. You only hear the beeps at the beginning of sylables, that's why I think it may be the gain. Cheers!
Oh, super helpful, thank you
@@Mapdec same in one of the last vids too!
Absolutely stunning, the colors match so well. Great analogy with the mini coopers and the 911s
This is probably my favorite build from the ones you’ve shown
Thank you
I prefer to be further over the pedals and open up my hip angle, I'd go inline post and integrated bar and stem. As nice as the Superbox stem is it is quite heavy and something with a tiny bit more flex wouldn't worry me. You guys are right to bang on about the quality of Time, I think riders can get swept up in the marketing of high end and to some extent lower end carbon bikes and take for granted that they've a well finished frame. The first shop I worked at sold custom made steel bike frames and builds, there's nothing better than riding something knowing how much care and attention to detail has gone into it. Not only that but theses ride really well.
I really look forward to your Time updates! I’m still trying to decide how I’ll build mine this winter.
ADHX vid live on Sunday
I have exactly the same TIME 2023 S frameset, with DT Swiss PR1600 wheels, and Ultegra mechanical groupset, (yes, mechanical, you can install it) and Rotor Vegas crankset, Wheels Manufacturing BB 386, alu DEDA handlebar, stem and seat post, Fizik Arione Open saddle, also TIME pedals. Bike is about 8.3kg. With a few expensive tweeks, I could go below 7.5kg. Bike fenomenal to ride. My first carbon road bike was Focus Cayo disc (with very light frame 950g). Total costs below 5K.
Yes. Mechanical works really well. We usually just run continuous outlets rather than ask for the mounts.
I had to use 3D printed cable routing part, in order to work for front derailleur only, oter wise comressionless Jagwire does the job. @@Mapdec
Mine is a similar build and haven’t weighed it. Main differences are Deda Alenara bars and Superleggaro seat post, Campy Hypéron wheels, SRAM red cassette and rotors, Prologo Dimension Nack PAS saddle, and Hambini BB. Fortunately, buying from EU online sellers saved me a lot of $ over US pricing and avoided duty and state sales tax
That is my next frame, omg it won't get any better than that! It looks understated and even the vast majority of cyclists won't know much about the gem of a bike that you're riding, love that.
WTF there is literally NOTHING "old school" about this build. It''s just another modern build. To be specific, it's a modern climbing build
@@buffalobilly6046 Mate... for goodness mate... where on earth do you get the idea that I think there is anything 'old school' about this bike? Please buddy learn to read please, thank you.
Stunning, love those wheels, it's not always about deep section "aesthetics" look, definitely a good climbing bike with those shallow depth rims. Superb build.
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This is a good looking bike. The only gripe i have with it is the weight, 7.4kgs without pedals man. I guess this is the new light weight!
What are you expecting? You’ll be hard pressed to find a rim brake bike at that weight with similar kit. Sure Dura Ace and some fancy German carbon bits gets any bike to the magic numbers.
@@MapdecDA and Lightweight Meilenstein will indeed bring it to sub 7 and simultaneously make you many $$$$$ poorer. 😂
No excuse for over 7kg for a top end race bike
The improved power transfer and handling of a quality frame is far more significant than around 0.6% increase in total weight. (O.45Kg/75Kg bike+rider+kit)
I’m looking at the Darimo Nexum integrated cockpit with their 3D printed fairing. Also a Darimo seatpost as I’ve come to really like those and have one on my Aethos. I’m still searching hubs, wheels and those look very interesting.
Very good! Would be nice to see the whole build operation, especially the brake cable routing. Thanks!
Thanks. If you follow the channel long enough it will all come about. I think we showed this on the pink build.
@@Mapdec Thank you for the reply!
Great to see such vital attention to detail - particularly wheel build and BB install. It’s always nice to have a top end bike but pointless if the build isn’t up to scratch. Clearly a great team at work here, so reassuring for any potential customer! (…and my bank details are…😆)👍
PS. I’m guess around £7k build(?).
Good guess. And thank you Adrian
People complaining about the weight missed the point of the build, which was to have a high-quality, classic looking and pretty light bike. Nowadays even high-end bikes tend to be over 8 kilos. This Time is only built with smart components, looks retro and is a good chunk below the 8 kg, so it's spot on. If weight was the ultimate goal, here are some tweaks that could be made :
- Light Bicycle AR 25 rims, very wide at 24 mm internal so they should also be pretty stiff, less expensive, 750g - 500g = 250g saved
- Veloplugs instead of regular rim tape, similar price, 40g - 10g = 30g saved
- Elita One seatpost, it's a cheap Aliexpress item, but it has a hundred of good review. 215g - 130g = 85g saved
- Berk saddle, similar shape as the Prologo, a very fancy piece of kit nicely suited to a Time. 250g - 100g = 150g saved
- Classic Deda Zero 100 Stem, it doesn't look as smart as the Superbox but it's lighter and less expensive. 175g - 125g = 50g saved
In the end the price is pretty similar, and the total weight would drop from 7,7 kg to 7,15 kg. I think the lighter rims and the Veloplugs could be a good alternative. For the rest the build presented in the video probably makes more sense, apart from an owner who would be ready to save on Aliexpress or has a good amount of cash to spend on the fancy finishing kit.
All good ideas. Hard pass on the light bicycle from me. Good luck with that. You might talk me into a MCFK 25.
I got almost the same bike (red frame) with corima wheels (got a discount 😅) and hambini bb. Weight about the same. Consider changing the cassette when due for dure ace to save another 100+ g. Biggest saving on the belly though. Riding it is pure joy!
Nice!
How does it climb?
Can’t believe those wheels were only 1300! Great to see a modern bike still looking like a classic bike!
I've got a time vxrs that was in the pic montage, quality craftsmanship
Much as I think that Time would be absolutely perfect for a last, high end, rim brake, mechanical drivetrain bike, that setup is probably damn close to perfect for road riding in the Lakes. Anyone who's been down Hardknott or Wrynose in the rain on rim brakes on carbon rims is usually not in a hurry to repeat the experience.
Yeah. Carbon rims were terrifying
Lovely build and attention to detail.
Many thanks!
So much eye candy!!
what's with thebeeping sounds?
This is obviously not a secret mind control masterplan.
Oh crap.
Master we're exposed!
I wish I knew. getting some new mics
@@Mapdec good man, I'm just looking out for you
Thought it was my TV on the last video 😂
@@ogden99me too! Then I realised it only happens on Mapdec videos
I definitely would have spent too much time alone in the basement with that build...
My wife would hate it.
Love it, If you're not happy with that fine racy pinup you need another hobby 😂
Perfect build ❤️
AWESOME 👌 👏 👍
Love the whole selection of components especially the Ultegra Di2 and those custom wheels 🎉
Cool having the younglings involved, perhaps a detailed wheel build vid???
The standout modern day classic is the Specialized aethos. That's a beautiful bike and with some reserve 52/63 wheels it would be rapid as well. Threatened bb as well to keep things quiet. A quiet bike is a fast bike as we say in mtb :)
It’s a strong shout
One word ' Quality ' !
wow it's a beauty cycle weapon, good job man!
Super Hipper Mega Ultra light material and components and the result is 7.4 kg :\ my S-Works SL6 rim brake version with Mavic R-Sys SLR wheels has the weight of 6.5 kg :) And i am a fan of Time, and if i had the money i would buy one just for fun.
Very nice bike, the owner will feel good on that every ride.
Loved it. I’m a fan of the gloss.
Love it, will be on one soon!
It's a beautiful bike. I would love one. But no bike over 7 kg should be called lightweight.
What are you expecting?
Is Cannondale Supersix Evo 2 Lightweight? I just watched a vid showing 7.5 kilos for size 49. Ultegra Di2 build. You need to understand that the era of 6 kilos rim brake bikes is sadly over. With the disk brakes weight being a constant, the only way to bring the weight down is to make the frame lighter. Which means brittle. And I personally do not trust a 680 grams frame.
@@tonyg3091luckily you can still find new rim brake bikes and build to
Gorgeous bike !
Lugged Bianchi era. Got a dusty one sitting in the garage.
I’m signed up for the notice!
beautiful bike! beautiful build!
Thank you!
Lovely
Superb
One word Lovely🙂
Thank you! 😃
beautiful bike, but the color is kinda low key, could add some paint or logo to these wheels. it's quiet standard spec but reassuring not can't go wrong with these choices. Love these mechanics build wheels and bike with attention to detail and their love.
13:09 I had you down for a much tidier bar tape end finisher than that!
Oh wow. I only just noticed. Looks like camera man grabbed the shots before we put the finishing tape on. Eek.
@@Mapdec Faith in Mapdec restored! I had hoped there would be an explanation! Keep up the great work 👍
Beautiful bike
I kind of wish Time would bring back some of the old school color, even if only in the logo.
There is talk of a limited edition farewell rim brake edition in the retro logo. I’m not sure how popular that would be.
@@Mapdec Sadly, probably not very popular and I'm as guilty as the next person. While I have a number of rim brake bikes, all my bikes in use are disc, mainly because of my investment in disc rims and the finite lifespan of rim brake wheels.
great video! but there is an annoying high pitch interference in the audio in the beginning
Think we fixed it going forward. Sorry
Question. Can you please advise what activator and retaining compound you used. I think I heard 764 but not sure if that's part of the activator or glue number.
It’s in the description, but please don’t take this as fact. You need to measure and choose depending on gap and material
Modern curious? Is that loke hetero curious? Brilliant work on the videos.
Thank you
think it's great just rim brake version
All in all, great, but cannot understand why you didn't use Berd spokes?
I have a berd wheel here. I’m not convinced by them. Just think they are a bit novelty.
Big fan of Time. But I ride an ADH21 (lower spec frame, so heavier and in a larger size, so heavier still), with similar wheels/tyres/tubes, running Chorus mechanical rim brake and it weighs in at 6.92 without pedals. Just sayin’ is all….
So 500g for electronics and disc brakes. Yes please!!!
Maybe more like 600g when you factor in the heavier frame. But I take your point. Assuming we’re ignoring cost…
@@rosspendlebury7142 we seem to be at a crazy time where a 105 disc groupset is cheaper than a Tiagra rim brake set. Its becoming quite challenging to get replacement rim brake parts now. Especially Campagnolo. Often eBay is our best source.
That's the way to go. A cheaper and lighter build that I am willing to bet 10 crisp, fresh pounds is exactly as fast in the real world. 500g and probably at least 1k£ for two gimmicks (electronic groupsets and disc brakes) that barely bring marginal gains in terms of speed, comfort or efficiency is an obscene amount of money and weight. I'd happily sacrifice 200-300g and as many pounds to ride a saddle that offers perfect comfort over 10+ hour rides, or on a frame with the perfect geometry and build for my body type and riding style, but not for a gimmick that has no real impact in the real world.
@@11robotics I remember my grandad saying these words about electic windows and air conditioning. Bit different I know, but they were seen as weighty, costly gimmicks at the time. Personally I love disc brakes on road bikes. They get better and better every update and it’s clear to see the advantage. I have to admit electronic gears are yet to fully win me over. However I am a mechanic that is happy to maintain mechanical gears. I can see the appeal for riders that just like to grab and go.
Nice build but I do love the Time frame in that deep red metallic.
The Chroma paints are amazing
The only thing I'd change, is to make it mine...
My wheels with their dumb hybrid ceramic bearings spin like that. We’ll see if they still do after another couple thousand miles.
Given the importance to ride (in particular) why don’t companies such as Time make their own seat posts as part of the standard frame set?
They used to. I have some old ones in the shop. I think when they split the pedal business off in hard times the agreement was to not make accessories that compete with the sram family of brands.
Merci!
merci beaucoup 🙏
@@Mapdec Je suis jaloux de vos connaissances et de votre compétence avec les vélos. Portez-vous bien !
Just got my frame and want to build it up with the same Deda stem system you have used. On the Deda website for the headset top cap drop down menu it doesn’t list Time as an option but does list many other manufacturers, which one did you choose to be compatible with the frame?
Great video, thanks 👍
It comes with the frame.
Could be worse, i sprained my ankle on Ingleborough when I did 3pks , which was nice
How many (mm) and what spacers did you use to remove the play from the shimano cranks?
Depends on the chainline you need.
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I wonder what retaining compound you use for the BB... you say Loctite
7641 - that's a 2 part epoxy. I assume you mean 641, which is a medium
strength retaining compound ? And the activator ? SF 7649 ?
It depends on material and gap. We have 2 activators, 4 compounds and a silicon glue we use. Best advice is to follow the manual and if that doesn’t work, research another solution
@@Mapdec thank you very much for responding 🤗 could you list the activators, compounds and glue you chose between ?
@@nielsgramjeppesen7855 lots of vids on this.
Nice video, but sound in headset is horrible. There is some high pitch buzzing.
I want a bike just like that but cannot find it in Spain.
Gorgeous. The only thing I would do different is go with Force AXS, but that has a weight penalty.
It’s a good groupo,
all great but you forgot to say how much the final product ;-)
Just under 7
That is a very nice bike however not yet sold on disc brakes yet, my Giant tcr sl is 6.3 kg riding anything else up the struggle would seem like a down grade
20 odd mins on the struggle is only a small fraction of a ride. Unless you are a struggle hill rep sadist of course.
@@Mapdec there’s more than one climb in the lakes I’ve always favoured weight over aerobics an the ability to stop 🤣
Hmm…definitely look 795 RS over time
I am trying to decide between a Cervelo Soloist and a Time ALPE D'HUEZ. Both just framesets. The Cervelo is much cheaper, and my local bike shop sells Cervelo. Do you have a recommendation? Should I stay away from the Soloist? I am looking for a frame that climbs well.
Thanks in advance.
If you want a bike that climbs well, the Cannondale 2017 supersix. If you want to go back down again with speed, confidence and comfort the Time will see you right. Somewhere in-between is the Soloist. If you get a good one.
@@Mapdec ,...Thanks for your reply. Do you think the Time is worth the extra money? (over 1,000 US dollars more than the Soloist frame). Of the two, Soloist-Alpe D' Huez, which is the better climber?
@@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed I doubt you would tell the difference on a climb. It would depend more on your choice of wheel.
Heavy gravel bike 🚳
Interesting analysis
what a helpful comment
imagine if that set up / fit was made to a custom frame, it would look like a touring / adventure bike
Your seeing the bike pre fitting. The next step like we said is the customer comes for a fitting and we finalise stem height and cut the steerer. I think we took about 15mm off it.
@@Mapdec cool 😎 but 1.5cm, be honest with him, tell him his beautiful bike doesn't fit. Perhaps one day he'll grow into it tho
@@timtaylor9590 wot are you on about? Having a 15mm spare between head tube and stem is more thank ok.
@@Mapdec oh ok camera must add 3cm. It looks more than 3cm in the video. I'm just jealous I guess lol
@@timtaylor9590 on camera there is 4cm. But this is normal for pre fitting. Most bikes come with at least this much to allow us to cut the Steerer down.
I bought the same frame this past month. Super nice but I am having trouble with seatpost slippage. I was told by Time to torque at 4 Nm. That doesn’t work. I upped it to 5.5 but still slipping. What’s your recommendation? Thank you
Should be at 5nm. What post are you using?
A Ritchey WCS Carbon LINK FlexLogic. I have used it for a few years in another bike build with zero issues. The fit when the clamp is undone is super tight, so all looks good. But it just slips. I am using Peaty's Max Grip Carbon Paste. Although, as I said beause the fit is so close to start with, it seems that it cleans pretty much all of the paste when you slip it into the frame.@@DieterPullan
Are you using carbon grip paste?
@@perseum unusual. However … try taking the clamp off and sliding it up the post before you insert it if it’s scraping the compound off. Seatclamp’s are a snug fit into the top of the seat tube clamping area so may help
yes@@Ceh0v
Fancy one of these to partner my rim Look 785 huez rs.
Now that’s a Alpine duo
I’m sure I saw the rear hub with an XD driver?
Defo not. It’s blue. It’s a HG.
Any reason not to use straight pull hubs? I want a time adhx SO badly, but can’t seem to find a buyer for my clapped out 54 year old kidney…lol
It doesn’t make any difference really. Straight pull removes or decision on lacing pattern, but that’s about it.
@@Mapdec Thanks!
By the way, what is the weight of the frameset?
What size?
Hi love your videos but there's an annoying beep sound in the audio.
Think we solve ls it going forward.
Still absurdly overpriced for a 7.8 kg bike and still absurdly heavy for a bike that's supposed to be near-top-of-the-foodchain bike. Even my previous bike, which weighed roughly as much, has cost me less than 2500€ and was built entirely from parts, around a carbon fiber aero frameset actually manufactured in Italy. Shifting was flawless (mechanical Ultegra R8000 before I switched to Campagnolo), braking was flawless even during long wet mountain descents (real mountains, such as the French, Swiss or Italian Alps), and there is nothing on this bike that would justify paying two times more money to buy it. Yeah the frame is nice, but a rim brake one with a more agreeable cable routing would have been exactly as nice and exactly as expensive to manufacture. Twice the cost for a bunch of gimmicks such as electronic shifting and disc brakes? No thanks.
I do like the choice of Deda peripherals though. Very good value for money and nice design.
When did you buy your bike? The bike I bought retail from a major manufacturer was $1200 in 2020, they want $2800 now. We've seen >50% inflation in 3 years, which makes sense since inflation is around 40%. Not really helpful if you purchased 3 years ago or more, 2500 is 5000 now.
@@steelemotorsports that particular bike was built in 2019. Since then the cost of the exact frameset and of the Zonda wheels went up by about 10-20%, while all the other parts cost roughly the same. It's been more than 15 years since I bought an off-the-shelf bike, all my bikes have been since specced and assembled by myself.
If I had to build a new bike today with brand new parts available in stock, I'd go down the exact same road as back then.
Not paying retail for anything is always the key. I picked up a Time ADH demo in mint condition, lucked into it for $6500, which I couldn't have bought all the parts for that cost, not to mention the build cost. It was spec'd exactly as I want it, otherwise I would have considered a build from scratch too. This is my first top tier bike. I'm a car guy, so I can't fathom anything other than disk brakes, even though I understand the arguments for rim brakes. All of my second hand bikes in my teens/20s had rim brakes, they were all junk components but they either never stopped, or would come out of alignment and rub the whole ride, I simply have to have disks no matter what. @@11robotics
@@steelemotorsports my philosophy when it comes to bikes is to apply the Pareto principle: 80% of the benefits for 20% of the "cost". On top of that, none of the over 60 thousand kilometres and many hundreds of thousands of metres of climbing and descending on my road bike have made me want better brakes or electronic gears, so why would I get them absent reason? And sure, the (forced) obsolescence of rim brake road bikes may be a reason, but I've already started stocking up on essential spare parts for my current bike - soon to be enough for me to build a second one if need be. Still a much, much cheaper venture than trying to buy a brand new road bike that fits my bill in terms of geometry, weight, gearing or ease of maintenance.
Hi! Love your videos and Time Bikes. I’m just about to get exactly one of these frames.
What’s the name on the Loctites you were using? And the spray in the clear bottle for the BB?
Thank’s for these great videos!
It’s all on the vid and description. More to the point. Please read the manual and measure the gaps. All compounds are for specific materials and gaps.
I thought Wenn only made filament wound??
As far as I know, they also have cheaper rims made by lay-up techniques.
how would you compare time frames to look frames?
Very different. They don’t really have comparable models.
Is there anybody who's ridden Look 595 ultra frame? I'm close to get a frame for my rim brake bike build. I'm considering Time ADH 21 vs Look 595 ultra. What I've found about Look, it's very stiff with exceptionally great handling but still very smooth ride. Time should be even more compliant, (compliance is what I'm looking for), but it's almost double the price. Also I like classic lugged style of Look. If this old Look is close to my daily used Look 795 Blade RS in ride quality, I've give it to go. Please help 🤔
I think your choice will be somewhat limited to the best 2nd hand example you can find.
@@Mapdec of course, I've already found both framesets second hand, but new, unused. I only need to choose, which one to get.
I don't understand why many well-known brands used bland and cheap-looking fonts when changing their logos, for example: Cannondale, Colnago, De Rosa, Felt, GT... and Time. Aside from the logo and lack of colors, this is really a beautiful frame among the aero monstrosities, I'm so impressed with the immaculate carbon weave that shows the excellent craftsmanship. But given chance to have a Time frame, I would choose VXRS over this one. 😉
It’s the modern thing to go sans serif. Apple started it….. it has got a bit out of control
They aren’t using bland cheap looking fonts, they’re using classic fonts. You’ll find that many large brands all use the same fonts such as Helvetica, Futura and Avant Garde - think Nike, adidas, cannondale, PayPal, Microsoft and on… these fonts are neutral enough to communicate to a broader target market, while still retaining visual strength and credibility. I.e. cannondale have a very broad target market, from kids bikes to fuss suss, so their identity has to work consistently across all of their range.
Additionally these fonts have been around since the 50s, so there’s nothing exactly new or cutting edge about them, they just work very well if used with consideration.
By the way you can have plain carbon frame with no paint, and appliy any logo you like. No problem. I'm designer myself, but sometimes this is the part of the history, and brand, besides being tacky or old fashioned. I would use Unica Swiss font ; )
@@MrSzwarz we have something in the pipeline you will love
Maybe they should rebrand, Timeless.
What were the rim brand/model again? I missed that
all in the description, Venn 30 TCD SL
@@Mapdec the Venn30 TCD SL is filament wound according to Venn site… you said in your vid you chose the hand laid version… bit confusing
@@thedownunderverse we did. You need to order them differently. If you scroll through the product page you see they offer it in hand laid. The one we used you can see the reinforcements. In the UK DCR wheels import them and keep stock of the hand laid stuff.
@@Mapdec cheers. I saw Leuscher cut some of the filament wound ones up. Was not impressed… look just as patchy as every other brand. I’ll stick with high quality aluminium rims from DT swiss.
What's the size?
M
Nice build, would have gone for black alloy nipples, or is that a no no with discs?
These are brass. We think the silver compliments the logos. Also we used a hex head to help get up to the higher tensions.
What cost for a similar build ..
It’s a little under £7k
bike porn...I do not quite agree on the Time decalls, I prefer less branding but a stunning bike
beep beeep beep
mic or post prod problems?
I think my Rode mics are dying. Seems like some interference.
Tune is shite, better go with Carbon-Ti. Also looks like there is no option to run the brake hoses externally. Did you weight the frameset alone, looks surprisingly heavy...
frame is 980g
Built to last!
@@universe-juice You are right but integrated hoses is a big no-no for me.
7.4kg ?!?!?!? uhh... a bit heavy.
Compared to what.
Hi @@Mapdec . There are several bike builds that fall under 7.4kg - Cervelo R3, S-works sl7 & sl8, Canyon ultimate slx evo, Cannondale supersix evo high mod, to name a few. "Elegant, High Quality..." you're right! But to lable it "lightweight"? No, that is not. To claim this build is lightweight is a bit misleading. (also, as you may know, it could be lighter with Dura-Ace over Ultegra and Darimo carbon over Deda - as indicate din video).
@@giobonjovi show me an SL8 under 7.4kg for under £10,000.
ha... @@Mapdec Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the discussion. As to your question, i think we know the answer. Regardless, the topic I was addressing is "lightweight" not cost.
What size this is?
Medium
@@MapdecThanks. I wonder how much heavier would Large be? 100 grams? More?
@@tonyg3091 more like 30-50g
This or the Look 795 blade?
Totally different bikes. This or the LOOK 785 is a more equal comparison. The 795 competes with the Time Scylon really, and that is in urgent need of an update. Where as the LOOK 785 is in need of an update. I think we might see on in November.
7.4 with out pedals is heavy!! Especially for a time.
Warning to anyone interested in this time it won’t ride like classic time bike (the only reason to buy one) they have compromised the geometry for dentists. Mapdec knows this but he’s to busy earning brownie points with time. I’ve own two times and would not buy this over weight half way house.
Interesting... Apart from a floppy Aethos what do you think is lighter with disc brakes etc? Geo is pretty much the same as ever. 73/73, reach about the same. Stack is a little higher, but only slightly. We are all listening to your ideas. Cheers
@@Mapdec cheers for the sarcastic tone, it’ll make this a lot sweeter.
Well done am glad you know about stack and reach at least…but that’s “fit” not characteristics which may set it apart from its rivals.
Historically speaking Times have always had 404mm chainstays make them incredibly responsive when accelerating and very efficient when in the saddle climbing.
All these bikes now 410mm feel like a slug.
Couldn’t give a flying duck about disc, it’s a road race bike!!! And 7.4kg without pedals is heavy…and you then factor in the price!!! Plus slug like geo…nah mate I’ll stick to my VXSR, far superior bike.
@@cpt.slackbladder3187 well. That was incredibly helpful for everyone. Thanks for chipping in.
@@cpt.slackbladder3187 what models are you referring to as Time has used different chainstay lengths over the years?
@@awab789 go to geometry geek, search time take your pick their all pretty much 404 or under, I currently ride a rim brake look 785 which is awesome but there was something special about the times I’ve had in the past.
It is not that light...
…compared to?
I am trying to decide between a Cervelo Soloist and a Time ALPE D'HUEZ. Both just framesets. The Cervelo is much cheaper, and my local bike shop sells Cervelo. Do you have a recommendation? Should I stay away from the Soloist? I am looking for a frame that climbs well.
Thanks in advance.
You could try Time's ADH01 frame. It's quite light for climbing and is discounted, since they replaced it with the 2023 models with Dyneema. Still, 2 years ago, ADH01 was creme de la creme!
That being said, I have the 2023 SRAM Force AXS and I'm absolutely loving it!
@@undreamingkc ,...Can you compare it to anything else (bike) you have had? I have a 2023 Sram Force group set ready to go, just need a frame to put it on. I live in a hilly area and am in my mid-sixties so I need a bike that is an excellent climber. But I also only have limited funds so the Cervelo at only 2700 US dollars (frame) is very tempting. But my heart lies with the Time.
My only other bike was tarmac pro. Climbing wise, I can't really tell the difference. But I feel so much more secure cornering on the Time bike.
I live right by the mountains in Utah, and so far climbing has been pretty great. But then again, I'm in a much better shape than I was when I rode the Tarmac.
@@undreamingkc Thanks for your comment. I am also in Utah, St. George.