What does it mean to give your bike a 'Full Service'?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- The Bicycle Shop FULL SERVICE. What is it? what can you expect? In this video we take you through the entire process of a full strip down and rebuild service. We talk though the frustrations of finding and waiting for parts to arrive. Simple parts are still very hard to obtain.
Some of the tools and stuff used:
@WeraToolRebels Zyklop Ratchet and Hex bits
@BBInfinite BB86 to DUB one piece BB
@sealeytools Honing tools
Bore Micrometer
BB Gage is our own design
Bicycle is a @canyon Ultimate CF SLX with @dtswiss wheels and @SRAM Force D1 Groupset
Wish all bike shops and mechanics were as thorough and detailed as you are!
OMG, I'd travel a VERY long distance to have a mechanic as diligent as you are....and I'm quite confident it wasn't just because you were filming. You obviously take pride in your work. Setting that aside, I learned a lot watching this and need to understand the workings of a bicycle a whole bunch more than I do currently. Thanks for making it!
Thank you 🙏
Where do you live? Mechanics like this aren't extremely rare, just extremely underappreciated.
@@diehardbikes Perth West Australia. I know there are good mechanics out there, but Perth has a reputation for "bad tradies" across all fields. I THINK I now have a new, trusted, LBS, and I'm happy to test that further.
@@denverman6161963 Same across USA. Maybe most of the world. Except where consumer support and warranty laws are strong and strongly enforced. There are great honest tradesmen everywhere as well, but you might have to know someone who knows one to be sure. Or be an undercover expert yourself and investigate local shops until you find the good for reasonable cost.
Respect the the owner who has practiced due diligence with this bike, and respect to your good self for yours.
Your bike mechanic skills are top-notch, and your RUclips channel is my bike knowledge hub!
Thank you.
@@MapdecIt looks like a huge amount of work requiring a high level of skill and experience, plus quite a few parts. Would you be happy to share what the final bill to the customer looked like?
@@Tailspin80 probably pretty high. For parts like those, and an overhaul like that, you are looking at a starting point of around 350 USD for the job alone, not including any new parts or extra labor, assuming they didn't do too much too it, just taking it apart, cleaning it, and reassemble. Making sure everything is in good shape. That's what this process is for. A rebuild can make a bike feel brand new if it's done right. And safety checks on all connections, parts, and alignment of all moving parts, make it Purdy.
Kudos to the owner on cleaning it but boy oh boy have bikes become more complex and expensive
As a bike mechanic that works out of my home, huge props to you and this customer. Excellent service, one of my favorate things to do, and excellent content. I love when someone rides their bike after a full service because they have a fresh memory of how it felt before. That, "It's better than new" reaction is priceless.
Nice. 👍
My LBS are cavemen compared to what you have going on here. Well Done.
😂cavemen😂
Most are. I'm lucky to have a good one in Chicago though not as close as hand as it once was when I lived within a ten minute walk, because I could not find a suitable place to buy in the neighborhood, where I'd been renting. So now I drive the bike over when it needs heavy service. My new neighborhood is one of the biggest university neighborhoods in the city and with direct access to the lakefront trail and yet does not have a single full service bike shop.
@@dblissmn Yup, it's why I learnt to do it all myself.
WOW! Since our local bike mechanic moved away, I have been hoping to find someone nearly as knowledgeable and passionate as he is...... Stumbled across this vid, and thought..... oh this guy is ace, I wonder where he is? And hoorah, Kendal is 45 mins from me. Result!
Nice. See you soon. 😊
Loved the detail covered in each step of the service.
Very nice and thorough service! And cleaning the bike in the end that seriously is something i‘ve never seen in any other bike shop…
Love your attention to detail. Dedication and passion shines through.
Well, now I feel very inadequate! I thought I knew the basics. Love to know the cost of such a service and how often you might need one.
This was £160 of labour. But with parts it came to a lot more.
Tilting the bike 90 degrees for cockpit adjustments is an awesome tip. Stuff falling off when you don’t want it to can turn a 30 min home repair into a 3 hour swearfest. I imagine using a cargo strap around the seatpost to keep the fork straight and still would help as well
All that skill, knowledge and care is super impressive.
Thank you
Fantastic video. More people who ride bikes and love bikes need to see videos like this. Thank you for this video, it really does change the world of cycling for the better.
That's why I prefer a 24mm axle. With a standard 6805 bearing, you use sacrificial delrin top hats between the bearing and the axle. Should anything be out of alignment, you protect the expensive items!
Where do you get your delrin top hats from?
@@JDMthwmn Hambini has some in his shop
Yep, this is my setup on both my Cannondale Synapse using SKF bearings and loctite. It's been perfect since the conversion.
@michaelburns1212 Nice! Same bike but went for a Hambini after my debacle with C-Bear's BB30A bottom bracket 'solution'...
Great video. So much knowledge. This looks like more of a spa for the bicycle than a dentist's appointment which I fear can be the case in some shops.
This was a type of follow-me-around-while-I-fix-the-bike-video so the close-up's was missing when you were compearing new and old at the start of the video.
Thanks for the good content.
Thank you
I just did the ever so fun job of cleaning my XT M770, M772, and M970 XTR drivetrain. I hadn't done this since last spring 🤨. I forgot how much better your gear shifting is when the chain and cassette are clean🤘🤘. Years ago, to clean the cassette, I would use Q-tips and alcohol swabs; they worked, but it was rather time-consuming. I started buying degreaser, but more went on the floor than on my drivetrain 😱
I always wonder if there's a way to capture for reuse whatever portion of a fluid doesn't go where you want it.
Lovely job, good to see the owner cared enough to bring the bike in clean, doesn't always happen.
Love the level of detail and cool to see how it is applied thanks
Brilliant, informative " how it should be done" nut & bolt service......Nice one Paul, chapeau 👏
That was a mesmerising video , attention to detail second to none , but the amount of time you dedicate to sorting out factory made errors is frightening im glad i only have an alloy bike with threaded bb
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m absolutely loving watching all your content, your explanations as to why your doing something and how to put it right is top class. Master at work!
This is what a service is.
None of this bronze, silver, gold levels crap you see with some places.
With you 100% on the non-availability of SRAM brake hoses. Same with Campy as well, but Magura hoses can be used in most cases there and are easy to source.
The availability of spare parts is an area where shimano trumps their rivals.
the bronze/silver/gold baloney is the sort of branding you get at something large and corporate like a big car dealership or a chain.
Can't see anything wrong the the bronze/silver/gold thing-, it works fine. Bronze is a safety check/tune for basic bikes or something that haven't been used much, silver is a more thorough service where the bike has been used a decent amount but hubs/headset/possibly bb are generally still smooth, gold is a full service like the guy here is doing. I wouldn't give a bike a full service if had barely been used, what's the point.
For me a full service is to replace any and all sealed bearings, fully dissassemble and clean the frame of any grease to be replaced with fresh one after, if the cables are old swap them too. Complete drivetrain check, if the cassette has any wear then the chain and casette go and get replaced with fresh ones. Check pedals, spokes and i think that'd be just about it on a non-suspension bike. I don't mention brakes as it's something i check often anyways
Amazing job and so thorough. You always seem to pick up on so many things that have been missed by others.
That is freaking absolute perfection.
11/10 job done and superb video Paul
Belgian bicycle shop owners are always a bit grumpy, so I'm surprised to see how polite and joyful you are.❤
That’s just Belgians 😅😅
Most American bike shop owners are grumpy as well. One who has a RUclips channel that's quite good has done quite a funny video where he mocked himself over his grumpiness! (BikeFarmer) The less grumpy ones tend to be more expensive, the more grumpy ones tend to be a little suspicious of really flashy bikes.
What a fantastic job you did.
Beautiful, what an artisan approach you have.
Great to watch pros at work! Thanks for sharing your experience like this - very inspirational.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very therapeutic to watch! I haven’t worked as a mechanic since 2010 but still love tinkering. There are a few details I’m particularly type-a about and felt validated when I saw you are the same… Lovely
Hell yeah!! More Dreamservice pleaseeeeee
Quality video! Thanks for taking the time to show and explain each step, I service my own bikes and it's great to see the gold standard!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Doing this sort of work is immensely satisfying to do yourself. It’s good quality time in the shed with your beloved and a couple of frosty beverages :)
Great overview of going over your overhaul. Great job
It is so satisfying to see such good work
A true craftsman 😊👍👏👏
Phenomenal work and great video! Keep them coming
A once over for me means a 8-10 hour complete tear down and clean relube , brakes ,fork ,shock pivot. Headset ,bb,dropper ,drivetrain. My ocd gets the best of me
Great work.
Outstanding workmanship. Clearly not just a job, but a lot of passion in getting things to as near perfect as possible. In my experience, it's way better to go to a bike mechanical service than a bike retailer with a mech shop out the back. I've often observed that a bike retailer will often "push" their bike mechs to prepping new stock to the point of creating a time burden on mechs then getting to bike servicing.
Great presentation
Amazing content. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I wish I worked with mechanics I could learn as much from 😔
The supply issues are real. I need to change my bar tape before the spring and my right shifter hood has gotten gummy and loose. The new Dura-Ace hoods are on backorder and, despite placing an order in January, I got an email only last week informing me that it will be closer to Easter time in March before I have the hoods and my bike's cockpit gets a refresh.
Awesome job on explaining all the steps snd why it took so long to get the bike back to the customer.
Great video - useful for bike owners to see what is involved in a full service snd more involved jobs.
I'm no mechanic but I feel like this is exactly what my bike needs now. 2 seasons without a proper service. Just me keeping it clean, lube, check torque, check and change chain, whatever I can manage with the tools available to me really...
I'm afraid of the bill I will rack up if I take my bike to the shop for a service like this. 😅 Regardless, your community is lucky to have a bike shop like yours available to them.
Thank you 🙏
Dude dunno how much he charges for service but I ride force bike and there is about $1K in parts between BB, crank set, cassette, chain etc. I think in New York labor would be another $300-500. Depends how greedy store is.
Nice job, as always. Greetings from Brazil!
My local Bike Shop in Sorocaba is just brilliant! Service here is generally soooo much better than the UK. 😉
Great to see a professional bike mechanic say that Park Tools are sometimes not worth the money and Ali Express can do some good tools.
Great vid Paul enjoyed the live chat. Customer certain to appreciate the exemplary standard of work 💪 . Nice touch with the enzyme parts washer much more user friendly than solvents. Believe origins may lay in commercial grease separators for food preparation / production in compulsory use for last 30/40 years. Biomatic enzymes digest and ‘eat’ the grease, water only makes it into the uk drainage system, 👍
Interesting. Thank you Kevin.
Green envy for your w’shop tools. Excellent care taken during your service and great tip for servicing front end at 90°
Such a beautiful job, makes me proud to be a fan, enthusiast and srudent of your ways! It is my long term dream to own and run a bile shop that is as good as yours.
Do it. All it takes is a caring attitude. The customers will come and the learning will evolve.
Great video as ever Paul, keep them coming.
Thanks 👍
Well presented and educational.👌I was already scared away from Canyon but this has more evidence.
there has to be a catch at the prices they charge sometimes. They were selling a full Ultegra-11 Endurace CF8 here in the US for $2,199 over the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays this year. But then again, this gouge seems to have been put there by the other bike shop trying to dig out the old BB, not at the Canyon factory.
The channel is blowing up. Very much deserved, high quality videos, well done Paul and team
Thank you. It’s exciting that we are getting to grips with our quality and our audience is loving it.
So satisfying to watch. Amazing attention to detail
Amazing work! I am not so confident that my local bike shops are as knowledgeable, diligent and reliable as you
Ask them.
great video! always hard to get this much info in such a short time, feel it was a good balance of explanations and getting to the point!
Very informative content by a knowledgeable mechanic. Love it!
As a dude who has been riding MTB since '87 and never taken my bike to a bike shop for any reason, I just love watching your level of mechanical skill, but even more than that is your attention to all of the little details which separates the good from the average and the elite from the good. 👍
Hands down the best video I have seen on the bike servicing. Maybe you forgot to show, but should you also check derailleur hanger for alingment during the service?
Thank you.
100% agreeing with off the peg bleed kits, the manafacturers own are more than often the best, although I have had an issue with the tektro ones being horrible to use, but I've made my own that seal far better.
Thats a great showcase of your job.
I really like it, and take inspiration.
That honing tool ans tilting bike 90° is so handy, thanks.
And.. thar seriously cleanest bike taken to the service i ever saw.
I worked as bike mechanic, and seeing bike this clean is rare.
(Now home mechanic again)
Btw: like an hour befeore release of this video that same bearing remover arrived at my door.
Cool. Good luck with it.
Which bearing remover is it?
Not relevant to the video, but it also puts into perspective what to look for when buying a second hand bike, which is what I'm currently planning to do for my first road bike. Road bikes already are an expensive investment, imagine buying second hand and then having to spend some more to replace parts.
Excellent and detailed information for every aspect of the work carried out, just a couple of queries:
> Approximately, how many miles had the owner ridden since the previous service?
> The cost of everything that's been done?
> What kind of service interval would this amount of TLC be required?
Hopefully, everything is cost effective, or would you recommend a more robust make/model/set up
Cheers 👍🏼
This was about 2-3 years I think. Probabaly left it too long for some parts and they needed replacing. Think the total was close to £1000. If there had been more regular check on the chain wear it might have saved the costs of chainrings and cassette a bit longer.
Great content.
RUclips at its best.
Thank you
Just discovered this video and very professional. Another subscriber added.
Thank you
I love this type of video and learn a lot of very useful things. I'll still take my bike to the mechanic for everything but the day to day maintenance but at least I will have a better idea what the mechanic is talking about after having watched videos like this. Please do more 😄
Thank you
Canyon's Mountain bikes look Great. When I heard they were going to start making Titanium frames🤘🤘
I love the Ali express BB removal tool. One of my best tools in all honesty.
I think this vid was pretty epic 😊
Great video and highlights that on first impressions, a perfectly well maintained bike can reveal a whole host of problems when looked at properly! 🛠👍
I would recommend using the Silca Hirobel workstand clamp to help protect the customer's valuable carbon seatpost and frame. It's particularly supportive when spinning the bike upside down to allow access to hidden areas, also when applying bar tape. It's not cheap, but I find it works well, provides great peace of mind, and is definitely worth considering for a professional workshop like yours.
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Thanks Malc. I had a Hirobel, but it only lasted a handful of uses before it broke. Now I kinda believe that the seat post is the best place to clamp by far. It’s literally designed for task, and to seat a 120kg rider. The resting points of the hirobel just load the frame where it was never intended to be loaded and the straps etc rest on paintwork. Ah, it’s just not for me 🤷♂️
I worked with mechanics in the Aussie Air Force on F-18's who were less diligent than you are! Splendid workmanship and attention to detail. I recently moved to the UK and it seems your shop is at the other end of the country as I'm down South, which is a pity. I'd happily pay a premium knowing my bike was in good hands. Peace mate.
I really should buy one of the wera wrenches..
I bought a few for our workshop after Paul's video a few months back. My favorite are the 2 and 2.5 screwdriver Allen head thingies. Definitely value for money.
Excellent service
Great video! So interesting and thorough, yet easily understood. Great work, guys! 🎉
Glad you enjoyed it!
Full Service Fabulously done. It makes wonder why many Bike shops are closing? Poor customer service, Lazy repairs etc..Despite some bad experiences Im not against Bike shops. To days the problem is to find a decent one you can trust !!!
Can all the other bike mechanics out there use this as the gold standard please.
I had a bb put in my specialized about 4 months ago and the guy said "I've done this so long I don't need a torque wrenching got home and torqued it.
it was nearly 20nm out of spec.
Love your videos chap,pleasure to watch a pro who cares about the bikes.
Ride it for a couple of hundred miles and then give it a re torque
That kind of service must be pricy, but the level of quality is more than impressive !
I rode a bike to my first 2 jobs when I was 16-18. Then I bought a car and never cycled again. I am 54 now. RUclips recommended another of your videos and I immediately followed up with this. It’s a very interesting new world of repair for me and you have a new subscriber, but can you consider investing in a macro lens to show close ups of wear and damage, as a lot of what’s been shown so far isn’t that clear.
We will see what we can do
Gonna buy my next bike from this cat. I live in the southern US. 😊
Hi I loved the video, very nice made!
I have a tip for you:
The SuperB TB-19003 Pressfit Inner Bearing Tool works with all standard inner bearings: BB 86/90/92 (24 mm), BB30 (30 mm), SRAM GXP (22/24 mm), DUB (29 mm)
And it works very well, you should try it, then you will have more space for other great tools👌👍😉
It isn’t long enough for a one piece
Great video. I wish I lived a bit nearer to you, I'd be down there in a flash to get my 2013 bike back to good as new.
Maybe one day!
3:28 Cane Creek preload ring, nice upgrade, plastic preloader is silly, this one does the job properly.
DT Swiss still producing 26/27mm external rim widths - need to move with the times. Roval Rapides are 30/35.
wow now I feel totally old school with my HED Ardennes-equipped bikes. A mere 21.2 internal, 26 external. Yet such a revolutionary change when they came out....certainly revolutionary for my bike riding, an eight millimeter increase on the internal rim width from the Ultegras that I'd had.
This is what a bike shop should do, go above and beyond to make sure that every bike leaving is in perfect condition. Obviously this doesn't always align with what the customer wants but if the customer wants iy perfect it should be.
CLEAN! ❤ LOVE IT!
Kudos to the owner for bringing you a clean bike. Always felt it disrespectful to bring the mechanic a dirty bike.
When I was a tweenager a bike shop owner/mechanic told me if I ever brought him a bike with a chain as filthy as mine was again he wouldn't let me back in the shop. 30 years later, the lesson is still sticking in my head, and I still take my bikes there. 😂 My deivetrains are spotless.
I've had my fair share of dirty bike intakes, especially those who've gone off-road at one point. None of them even bothered to rinse to knock off any loose dirt.
I think bike intake etiquette isn't a thing where I live, much less something people know about.
just charge them extra for the pre-wash. :D
Even worst bring in a clean bike and receiving it filthy from LBS. I was pissed
What is even more impressive is that it's so worn from riding and YET so clean. It teds to be well ridden and neglected or a spotless trailer queen, to use a automotive term...
Once, when customer left the door angry after being informed there will be a cleaning charge. My LBS acquaintance accurately remarked: "You wash your dick when you want a doctor to take a look at it too....
always keep old bar tape for chain stay wrapping/protection; total flex to have Silca down there.
Getting parts quicker , expedited shipping . This is what I do . Other bicycle shops were buying parts off me during COVID 19 .
Would like to see more of this content on a wide range of bikes and I would be interested in knowing hours spent and cost
Great video, appreciate the explanations and your honesty regarding tools and parts etc. any tips on how to look after you wheel hubs? I’ve had one fail already
PAUL, great video...the percentage of shops that one has the knowledge and skill and then use it is very small i think...Im thinking its an english thing,,most F1 engineers are english..most shops have a 16 year old pounding out BB with a screwdriver!! How about a chain of stores near my house?😀
It’s easy to build a shop, much harder to recruit and train the team.
The ceramic speed bearing press/extractor is another very good piece of kit for press fit bearings
Yeah. I’ve seen it. It’s less sophisticated than the Ali express versions. They all use very soft alu to prevent damage to parts, but as such they all wear out fast.
feedback from my side: i know it would take more time and effort but in some cases when u compare or show something maybe get a closer shot where you can make sure the fokus is correct. ofc most of the time i can imagine how things look...
Brilliant video
Awesome service video💯👌🤝🙋♂️
Lovely mate! Nice work!
Always thought Weels Manufacturing stuff was subpar. Thirty years ago I discovered niether the cones and axles where only good for one season.....started grinding and polishing a new surface on Shimano cones with a lathe.....still riding some that I did that 30 years ago.
Good to know it's not just me, that shops are having trouble too. I've been on backorder for SRAM double compression brake hose since December. 🤬