The concept of nationalism terminates social status when it comes to be adopted: Romilla Thapar
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- During the Dr. C.D. Deshmukh Memorial Lecture 2023, distinguished historian Prof. Romila Thapar said nationalism terminated the old social status and social system and re-established a society of values and structures that almost revolutionised the world.
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*"Without lies, Islam dies"*
"Without lies, all religions die"
@Shagendra Saijal I'm not here to quench your biases and rigidity. Just read my comment again. Lies and bigotry infest all the religions. No, terrorism doesn't have any religion and if you believe otherwise, which you do, you can go pleasure yourself in the corner of your self-content.
@@Horizon429Without lies, there's no Brahminism! It very colonist perspective to see other religion as a concentrated ideology. But hinduism is not a concentrated one neither it will ever be one.
@Shagendra Saijal TO be precise, Without thuggery Hinduism dies. Happy now?
@Shagendra Saijal Terrorist always believe that his religion is the best and most peaceful religion. Does this help.
Show historian Meenakshi Jain instead of her
Surely but first let's talk about ummah nationalism how it is an internal threat
To begin with, she has written" Early India " without the Knowledge of Sanskrit.She learnt Indian History in English in England and then she wrote our history text books.( Funny as it may sounds but Its like a British in England reading history on England in Hindi written by someone who learned English History in India that too in Indian language ) . Her take on Ashoka were really should be read as bedtime story, cause Nehru and congress needed Ashoka as a hero and a national symbol ( Ashoka Stambh ect ). But the fear of a possibility that Ashoka can be a "Hindu hero " or Hindu nationalist's pride , Congress and Romila thapar had to make Ashoka a savage "Hindu King" who realised after the Kalinga war how he killed so many innocent people and then converts to Buddhism. Ashoka in fact was Buddhist the time Kalinga war happened and No Buddhist text links his conversion to the war and even Ashoka's eulogists like Charles Allen agree that his conversion predated the Kalinga war. The political agenda to fight "Hindu Nationalism " which congress has been fear mongering for last 75 year has crept in a lot of biases towards Indian historical figures. Ask her why we she doesn't have the same passion for Shivali Maharajji , Maharana Pratap, Vijaynagara Kindom , Chola Kingdom ect Well because they were all hindus fightig from the invaders. Whats her take on Islamic conversion ? , Jizia tax ect well that needed to be secularised and thats why the rough edges were softened out. If congress really wanted a role model then Dara Shikoh should have been the hero for all Indian Muslims and not Aurangzeb. In our history books there is no reference to Ramayana or Mahabharata, not from a religious point of view but historical point of view ? Arent West invested in researching the Bible from a cultural and historical point of view. The demonization of Hindu culture sadly is reflected upon todays Indian society and politics and the divide is clear. In indonesia ( Bali ) the muslims do visit the temples as a part of understanding the culture. I saw kids from Jkarta visiting Bali temples why ? Hindu hatred in the Subcontinent is credited by the Politics of the sub continent.
Why not address the issues on both the sides? Why not start with inter-dining and giving more acceptance to inter-faith marriages? Is acceptance and respect for each others traditions and way of life too much to ask for? Is it necessary to keep harking back to history and historiography to resolve today's conflict?
@@sohitchobhiyal3453 Start with asking the other side, you fool!
@@sohitchobhiyal3453 Truth about past has been told. All our left historians showed false lies that Indian national forces for last 1200 years has only lost wars to outsiders. They never showed us how our ancestors threw Arabs out. How Martand Verma in Kerala defeated Dutch. How Asom kings defeated Mughals, nothing was taught to us due to this lady and her ilk.
@@kushangpatel983 These questions are for both sides, read and think about it again. Learn some manners while you're at it!
@@732anoop Right! Very fascinating that we have accounts from a variety of sources and so we can arrive at a rational understanding of our own. But is it wise to say "all our left historians were wrong" and the truth was only brought to light by other historians? There is no ownership over truth it can only be contested.
Pre-eminent "Distortian " Romila Thapad.. madam is so intelligent she deciphered ancient texts without even having any working knowledge of sanskrit language.
I don't know what you get by distorting someone's name sarcastically? Very cringe behaviour, stupid at best!
How many books of Romilla Thapar you have read till now? Your sole axis of contestation seems to be her incompetency in reading Sanskrit texts. Historian does not have knowledge of Genetics or Linguistics. Therefore, from your analogy they should not use Genetics in history writing. Hope you will give some rationale reply.
Very well said! Manipulation, Trickeries, counterplots etc. Should be added in her resume.
@@jagdishkumar-hg8og You are not refuting her any claim. You are beating around bushes to satisfy your biasness. You can point succintly rather than using big adjectives to malign her image.
@@riteshpandey9932 I used to be her fan. Read her books, "Early India," and "the past as present." But, after reading the other sources it became clearer that her history is nothing but a political commentary. History can't be subjective. Anyway, My observation about the Communists with Brhamin surname is that they are very rigid. Belive what u like. Tc
Can we've a debate between Romilla Thapar and Sai Deepak or Vikram Sampath please?
I thought you hated BJP, in that you would be inclined to believe in what Romila has to say by default.
@@srinisbir8781 How did you infer that I hate BJP from my comment?
@@reach2prasanna i know you from my previous interaction with you. You seem to be very upset with the economy under Modi govt.
@@srinisbir8781 Srini sir, I'm extremely open minded. I criticize governments where they need to be criticized and I praise them when they deserve it. BJP and Modi are praiseworthy for the development they'd brought to the North Eastern states and bringing them into the larger fold of India. They deserve praise for the way they handled the pandemic, especially with the vaccine making and distribution. They deserve praise for the way they handled the war in Ukraine.
But I'll reserve my praise and go all out in criticizing BJP's way of handling the Hindu-Muslim issue. Instead of uplifting and bringing Hindus together, they're targeting Muslims who make up 200 million of us. They still haven't found a solution to reservation and conversion. Even Nepal has an anti-conversion law from 2018. They've yet to develop a robust inner-city road and public infrastructure.
Please share your thoughts on these.
@@reach2prasanna agree with you on all, except the Hindu-Muslim situation is created by left media and opposition. I cannot find a single instance where BJP and Modi is creating a problem. Inner city is a state-wise issue. Some states are working on it better than the others.
Europe's nationalism is different from Indian nationalism. Europe's nationalism lead to world war, India's nationalism lead to it's independence.
division of india in 1947, u must not forget ,with unimaginable atrocities.
dharm ke naam pr dharm ko barbad kiya jata h
aur
desh ke naam pr desh ko
thats what she's trying to say
@@huzzhaq661 kaash, sansar mein Islam paida hi nahi hua hota. India aur bada hota aur jag mein Shanti hoti!
Not really.. Indian independence movement took a lot of inspiration from the European nationalistic movement.. look at our constitution you'll see why we have things that resounded with french revolution, Soviet, Irish, etc
@@hareshmehta1772 Do you think you are peaceful community?
She is "Trust me Bro" kind of historian.
Without nationalism no country can become developed and great.
Check the nationalism of Japense people , without that Japan would have never become what it is.
These people like Romilla , Irfan Habib are real termites for the society , these are Congressi chamchas...want to run their own agenda....British chale gayen but unke shaheb yahin chor gayen hian...
With assertive China and Pakistan, India needs all the nationalism it needs.
@@Horizon429 Kid, Society was always there!
@@Horizon429 The society is the basis of our Indic Civilization. We are not a state-based civilization rather a society-based one. Yeah, the society was indeed divided into "varnas"/occupations. Kindly understand what I am trying to say.
@@Horizon429 yes Martha's was not fighting for Hindvi swarajya.. 😂😂
First know the difference between nationalism and patriotism🙌Japan is far away🤣
As someone who loved history from childhood I had developed a huge respect Ms Thapar over the years and even even read some of her books - the last one being Somanatha. But even as an admirer, Initially I used feel awed by the language, flow, and the background research that one comes across in her writings However as a man of science, I dont just let grandeur and vocabulary mask my understanding. If I am doubt I just read again to appreciate the logic and rationale behind many of her arguments. How I always used to feel a a shallowness in her arguments. Just too many interpretations over a few carefully selected and dressed up historical references. However after I heard her rants against the people who criticize her works in interviews given only to select TV channels, I was convinced that this woman had a deep disdain for the Hindus and nurtured a lifelong bitterness .
Just make stuff up
It's good to grow up at some point of time.
Me too, the greatest shocker came when I came to know that there is a Civilizational Continuity from the Kalibangan and Harrapan sites where "Shivlings", ststues of "Namaste" pose, etc. Etc. was so abundantly evident but these Marxist Historians went out of the way to try their best to deny the Civilizational continuity, its heritage. And the way they defended the Islamic Invaders and Glorified them, whereas completely eliminating and sidelining the Indegenous struggles and resistance against them. The foundational Islamic Doctrine of Breaking the Idols, was eclipsed by their Marxist Economic interpretations where there were many major examples of proving it to be completely opposite, one being the very records of the Courtiers of these very Invaders. Elliot Dawson's done a better job of translation of the works as is. They didn't even mentioned some of the major figures they even I recently came to know from the Vikram Sampath's Bravehearts of Bharat.
Arun Shourie's book "Eminent Historians their line their Fraud" is a must read.
These people, I call them "Professional Distortionists", or Distorians.
Acc to her,
Aryan invasion theory is true while it is totally baseless and rejected by biggest scholar lyk Dr Ambedkar ji!!!!!
While same she says , Mohammad gazanvi (spiritual father of people lyk her) was not hindu hater, ironically his own written records spills deep rooted hatred and praises him for havocs against Hindus.
And major institutions in India takes her books as reference material.
Where are we heading to🙃
@@TheContrariann She is the living embodiment of the chapter "When Cornered cry petty, personal, uncivilised" of Arun Shouries book "EMINENT HISTORIANS".
I read the book twice once in 2011 and again in 2016. The amount of intellectual damage can be measured by reading that book.
Eminent historians was published in 1998
Romila Thapar is the greatest perpetrator of deception in Indian history.
Don't worry about truth, logic, primary resources, context or historical validity, just say it with confidence everyone will accept.
The Left historian
Why is it only common to "The Left historian"? Which historian are you?
I see what you did there.
@@jfjoubertquebec he's fallen victim to what he's preaching, with confidence.
@@sohitchobhiyal3453 i will give u an example of this ... D n jha n romila thapar fabricated a story that arabs defended the somnath temple against mahmud of ghazni ... Al biruni has not mentioned this in any chronicle of his ...
Another example, jha also claims that kathak n khayal gayaki were developed in the period of amir khusro ... If u observe the bharhut stupa, the poses of kathak r sculpted on it, the stupa is dated to a minimum 3 centuries before CE ...
Bothe the above r some text examples of left wing historians falsifying history n asking the public to accept their versions as the truth ... Till a few decades, their version was not challenged, now that it is, they feel the pinch ...
Do u wish the discussion to continue, or conclude it here?
You are no historian!. Typical Tapori uneducated imbecile ! Try again certified Morons.
Even Covid refused to take her away 😏
In video description it says distinguished historian 😂😂😂
Means distorian🤣
*Garv se kaho, hum Hindu hain!* 💪 🚩🚩🚩
Every religious bigot says the same. Be it Hindu, Sikh, Islam, Jain, Christian, etc.
What is there to have pride when it was just a biological accident by virtue of which anyone can have any CASTE/Jati Or Religion.
@@kash60ishvlog67 wrong. Muslims say "we are muslim and we will make the world Islamic" but we Hindus are hindus who do not dream of conquest of world and converting ereryone. learn the difference. Arts student in India are pathetic they know less pretends they know everything. This is you
@@kash60ishvlog67 it's a human coping mechanism.. dates back to stoneage period. Tribal mindset of creating an identity to take pride in, so as to exist as a commune and survive.
@Tarun T
Good. So distribute mootichoor kei laddu to fellow poor Hindus and also the unemployed ones.
@Tarun T
If you are proud of something which others are not claiming about their biological accidents then you owe a responsibility towards your fellow poor Hindus and the unemployed ones. You are talking about a family or a community so you owe a responsibilty.
Otherwise you can be only regarged as a disillusioned fool or a hippocrate.
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Read and become literate in economics before talking from your ass.
Trained historian without knowledge of the language in which the history was written... Sanskrit :D :) ;)
That is why it is said. Padh lo thoda. You are just relying on whatsapp university forward propaganda.
Silly souls, the bhakts. 😂
This lady studied entire Indian history from English.. what else can we expect from this lady..
Have u even studied anything?
Our Archeological Survey of India (ASI) was gaining prominence because of the British, u really think today's right wing people would have shown any interest in deciphering the Brahmi script? Or would have even given interest into studies of a non-vedic early bronze age civilization like the Indus valley civilization?
@@kalebj7001 👌
@@kalebj7001 Yup!! and Yup!!
@@yugyadavyadav8440 That isn't hypocritical at all. She is supposed to be a scholar who writes history for students how is she supposed to do that without knowing Sanskrit and even if she does why should anyone believe her??
😂😂 It's quite funny to listen to this lady who loves communism along with democracy . It's hilarious. It seems like I am feeling confused.
Well there is a word for that , its called "Chinese Democracy " !😜
Yo!! Did u even listening
@@marshadesouza7977 so you can't handle facts about Romila.
Like Mia khalifa spouting virtues of chastity n virginity !😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wonder why she or Irfan Habib was given so much of importance.
Why did she not accepted invitation to discuss with Rajiv Malhotra
Also ran away when Sita Ram Goel challenged her on an open letter 🤣
Lol.
Non-historians are jokers.
Rajiv Malhotra is like a Hero of Bhojpuri cinema/Tollywood.
Will Amitabh Bachchan discuss cinema with Ravi Kishan type people who have degraded Bhojpuri. 😂
Bhakts are silly souls. 😂
@@kash60ishvlog67are you the spawn of barbaric invaders or belong to a litter of cowardly converts? Guessing by your pretentious arabo-persian name
Dear Lady , you have done enough damage to the country. Pls take rest. Why still take trouble to jjustify the crine committed by your eloquance . We understand your guilty feelings. Take rest.
After hearing her I think she has the special skill to appear very erudite and Intellectual on the surface by cherry picking historical incidences and building a story but scratch a bit and look at her responses where she has been questioned or disagreed then her elitist attitude and prejudiced view gets exposed.
The Thapars did well because of proximity to Nehru.
Long lecture .. Can't afford to listen completely but introduction made me think....is there a poppy connection in your Aryan Invasion theory because till date you haven't provided any proof!!! Earlier you gave lectures on history and produced what - Aryan Invasion theory!!! Now sermonising on Nationalism!!!
Leftist communist historian thinks they are professional historian, this is the biggest joke of the century 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Any wise words on Islam.....no kyuki f.a.t.zati hai tab..
Funny woman. One minute, she says socialism is essential, another minute she says that about democracy. Really, what history does she study? For all I care, she is welcome to set up a socialist state in any of our CPIM strongholds.
@@Horizon429 Kid, they are capiltalist economies with a large socialist state!
@@Horizon429 That would be impossible. Only inveterate ignoramuses believe Scandinavian countries are socialist.
@@Horizon429 none of those countries could find a vaccine for COVID. ALL THESE COUNTRIES HAVE really small population to sustain.
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*Mission 2047: BHARAT as Developed Nation!!*
Mission 'Right Now': Revamp the school curriculum
Kyun develop kre bhai? Hindu nation bnane ke bad development ki kya jarurat?
@@dpfrmhell Much needed 👍🏻
@@bokyarao873 Naye naye jail banenge tabhi to aapko andar karenge mere bhai.
@@dpfrmhell Achha
Finally The Print provided her with a platform to rant. She refutes the collective memory of the populace. what gall!
@4:47 (@4:20 to 4:49) What comes from the poppy and enters the mind of the heroin addict conjures up "fantasies" about a "magnificent past", which, "fantasy", sustains the present.
Counter currents of "actual history" as opposed to an "imagined history"
in India of today indeed might have smoke pot
The Eminent Historian handing out the verdict to Uncivilised Indians. 😄😄
She is the living embodiment of the chapter "When Cornered cry petty, personal, uncivilised" of Arun Shouries book "EMINENT HISTORIANS"
What are you even trying to say ?
Why do it's always a Hindu who questions about India's nationalism? How can seculars in India have the heart to question and talk against Hindus rising in statute while not say a word against Islam's public outlook on LGBTQ+ rights, women's rights and rights of non-Muslims? This surely does baffle me.
It surely does. What baffles me is that "targeted Kashmiri Hindu Killings " and targeted means checking Aadhar cards and confirming the victim's religion as Hindus and then gunning them down is a fake narrative as per Indian left and Kashmir Files which depicts the incidents of killing of the victims such as Girjia Tickoo,BK Ganjoo a lot of fellow Indians like them being killed horrifically is called as a Propaganda movie. I was baffled every time I see insensitivity towards the Victims of targeted Jihad killings. Shame on those people.
@@kunalsarkar1984 The voices of seculars in India and Muslims who cry foul at everything is amplified by our left-leaning media and the media of the western world. For them secularism and liberalism is the lifeline, without which their countries will be in ruins. They've to keep their arms open for everyone so that people emigrate to their countries to do their work. It serves a greater purpose for them. But why do Indian left and Hindus especially blow the trumpet on behalf of Muslims, knowing well what they've done to the Indian society and to Hindus specifically is just mind blowing.
Nationalism was invented in 17ty century Europe, i.e. you are following a European colonial idea!
Before watching anything on "Print" I check the comments posted, in this case also I got the sense of what she spoke form the comments added......another propaganda video.
Who defines "professional historian"?
Is field of history static??
Why is your version of history is objective but others are baised?
This "eminent historian" stands exposed without realisation.
Source : Trust me
@@shwetankp1603 yes😂...trust me bro plus the delusional sense of high morality
She goes on and on about trained historians vs untrained ones. I am guessing she is putting herself in the trained historians category and anybody who opposes her view as untrained historians.
In her lecture on democracy and a warning of majority overpowering the minority agenda, she did not talk about fundamental rights that constitution grants to protect every citizen which cannot be taken away by majority and how judiciary is the watchman. She forgets that majority is most likely to run executive just by the fact that they are more in number. This is what happens when historians don't get passing grade on elementary mathematics.
Mrs thapar should take her own advice and stop taking opium
She would not last this age if she was pot smoking.
She may be very Anglophile but do not attribute her as a opium smoker. Respect is required please.
@@joedias7946 This is a metaphor, not asking to smoke anything
@@joedias7946 This is a metaphor, not asking to smoke anything
The Disgraceful Distorian.
She is a sophisticated English speaking liar
Her status today is similar to her field of study and expertise , ancient and nearly irrelevant for most except a certain niche
Are you sure you did not leave anything out of that remark?
"It's like Yasin Mallick giving lecture on Indian Nationalism to the Kashmir Separatists"
So she continued her Jo as defender of invaders.
"Yudhisthira was perhaps inspired by Ashoka when he gave up the Throne"
- Romila Thapar, Indian Historian who wrote CBSE Hisory Books
Tell m evidence of yudhistar
@@ramjhasahab9923 romila ka andbhakt
@@ramjhasahab9923 Mahabharata is evidence of Yudhistira, Our Scriptures are our Greatest Historical Proof.
Not Convinced ? Well Guess what ? The world believes in Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad on same context of Proof - Texts written many Centuries after their death. Hindu Texts and History is targetted particularly because the entire History is written by Winners, Not from the persepctive of Oppressed people.
We Hindus were Oppressed in our own Homeland for 1200 years by Foreign Invaders - Christians (British) and Muslims. This is why you won't find a single Historian in India question Historical Proofs for existence of Jesus or Muhammad. If Muslims can believe a man flew to Heaven on a Winged Horse and Christiana believe a Man healed Leprosy and raised from Dead, Then surely even the Hindus who believe in Mahabhrata is also correct !!!
@@manumudgal4988 mm not an andbhakt of Romila,i dont agree with her ideas on socio-economic-political structure of democratic ideas.
Tu pakka modi ka leta hoga😂😂
@@ramjhasahab9923 wo deta bhi hai dear Leder ko
Fake historian
A sold distorians.
She Cites European Historian Remarks And Compares to Present Indian Context Only Not Chinese Context To ideolougy She Represnts For Chinese Century of Humilitation is Correct for India it is not These Hallow Shallow Left Historians left The Left in India to Big Hallow Only to be told in History in future classes Of Bengal & Kerla.
See how influential was this madam speaks a lot when selected on the basis of interview of bioligy for a history professor.
Spiderman - How much difference can one make!
Romila - How much damage can one make!
The women when wrote NCERT dedicated chapters for Akbar, Aurangzeb and every Dynasty of Delhi sultanate but had footnote mention of sikh misil , martha confederation and Rajput rebellions. Indian history runs way beyond policy of appeasement of Delhi sultanate and Mughal Empire.
@7:52. "In India two nationalisms ....rising out of colonial construct". Wow wow. People don't realize the subtle nature in which she puts the two nation theory on the British and exonerates Muslim league and Jinnah. "Both nationalisms had their own agendas".. So in her idea, Hindus always wanted a separate Hindu state and Muslims wanted their own. UTTERLY FALSE. Just look up in any, I mean any legitimate source, and you will know who asked for a nation based on religion. Enough of this non-sense historians.
A fraud & darbari historian..
Professional historians-lol
Her version of History is a great Fantasy and only fantasy
Oh, she's still active. I thought she had stopped working/speaking since 2014.
Fake news fake historians?
As a layman without any training in critical study of history, I was curious to know whether there is any difference between a Hindu king looting temple wealth and a Muslim invader say like Ghazni or Ghori looting and destroying a Hibdu temple?. The first instance of e can notice in Islamic history is by their Prophet Mohammed ,who destroyed the idols in Ka'aba.Is it not,therefore ,that the Muslim invaders were just imitating their Prophet as a religious duty, though these barbarians may have been used by temple wealth. At the end when Prof. Thapar concluded that during their interaction over a thousand years,there must have been restless periods , I hoped she would elaborate on the subject. But she kept the controversial points at end quite understandably. It would have been quite eightening to know from her about the otherwise of the story. Objectivity demands at least from trained historians lof her eminence that a holistic picture is submitted by them. Yet hearing her views is quite refreshing and educative. Yes, Everything must be questioned .
The 'Witch Emeritus' of JNU.😝😝😝😝
जो कहती है कि मुझे संस्कृत भाषा पढ़नी नही आती वो अरबों की नसल थापर भारत इतिहास पर किताबे लिखती चली गई 😀😀
Distinguished distortion
She is real Dayan.
People who say India is loosing democracy, should remember Romila Thapar is still alive or not in jail. And she is alive cause she chose to criticize Hindus. Wonder what would have happened if she had targeted Islam 😅
Greatest Dis-Historian in Indian History.
A third grade historian is called eminent. It happens only in India.
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2Rs credited to your Bhakt Silly Souls account. 😂
In the name of secularism & avoiding minority exploitation, these guys did more damage to society, creating suspicion against each other religion, intent may be good but results bad.
I watch "The Print", because Mr.Shekhar Gupta is objective in covering news related to India and the world.I did not expect he gives platforms to people like Ms.Thapar who is spewing poison ever since Mr.Modi has become Prime Minister of India.People like Ms Thapar and her ilk should find platform like "the wire" and not here.I hope message goes to her.
Can this so called historian prove their history is not subjective but objective and free of bais????
Did we not read all doctored history lessons in our schools supposed to have been designed by this woman and her ilk ?
It is always delight listening Dr romila thapar.
Worst lady credited for distorting Indian history!
Hi Romila Thapar. How do you feel today now when all of your life's work has been debunked as politically charged lies?
Romila Thapar and Irfan Habib long live because
They have to see from their own eyes the rebuilding of all demolished temples
And
India once again become Hindu rashtra
The Print streaming it can you guess why?
The Eminent Historian handing out the verdict to Indians, and then continuing her 1hour long lecture
@4:47 (@4:20 to 4:49) What comes from the poppy and enters the mind of the heroin addict conjures up "fantasies" about a "magnificent past", which, "fantasy", sustains the present.
Counter currents of "actual history" as opposed to an "imagined history"
in India of today indeed might have smoke pot
She is the living embodiment of the chapter "When Cornered cry petty, personal, uncivilised" of Arun Shouries book "EMINENT HISTORIANS"
Romila Thapar is the greatest herstorian in IT'Story of womankind.
She is classic case of Marxist distorian only criticising Hinduism and totally nothing on Islam
Ughh just shurpanakha things
Majority of the comments made on this video lectures are by people who haven't seen the full video!!!! She has not diminished any religion , simple stated that people in a time before today existed not on the basis of religion but for the purpose of mainly economic gain, people didn't kill each other over religion everybody took sides not based on religion but on status, economic, territorial or influential gain , the status of the poor and lower castes or no castes simple remained the same. Her lectures could apply to hindu nationalist in India or muslim nationalist in Pakistan, but duffers hear only hindu Hindi and loose their minds and make comment's.
What's a Hindu nationalist? Also if you say what you're saying, i.e. what she is saying, then how do you explain the Crusades? Don't just call people duffers. Do you see the irony in your comment?
I wonder why the print is carrying this garbage
Dr. Thapar is a national treasure.
In the name of social order you can not twist history away from truth.
Making historical claims based on narratives not archaeology,only she can do this
Remove this historian thing,encourage archaeological studies without any narrative
As a citizen of civilisation, I question knowledge, evidences, facts etc of mrs romila thapar and her gangs, does it outrages, disturbs her....
The lecture was very good and it could be summarized into this title
"How to understand and approach History! "
History isn't exclusive but is inclusive. She cited good examples that History is never exclusive like Hindu History Or Muslim History & such history will serve no one except will make the society toxic and hateful.
Didn't knew that Haldighati was had Muslims fighting for Maharana Prataap against Mughals.
There are no takers for cheergirls of charlatans. FO
Afghans and Rajputs took part in literally every single battle which took place in Indian Subcontinent During Medieval and Modern Period.
In South India Both Bahmani and Vijaynagar had Rajput and Afghan mercenaries of Modern UP and Bihar.
Her father it seems has disregarded intelligence reports that Kashmir was to be attacked after independence
Romila is andbhakt of English Sahebs
Salutations to thee Prof. I happened to be your student in Delhi university in 1966. Your erudiition knows no bound. Mu sincere thanks. Pl. Sometime speak on Ashoka the great.
@4:47 (@4:20 to 4:49) What comes from the poppy and enters the mind of the heroin addict conjures up "fantasies" about a "magnificent past", which, "fantasy", sustains the present.
Counter currents of "actual history" as opposed to an "imagined history"
in India of today indeed might have smoke pot
The Eminent Historian handing out the verdict to Uncivilised Indians. 😄😄
She is the living embodiment of the chapter "When Cornered cry petty, personal, uncivilised" of Arun Shouries book "EMINENT HISTORIANS"
Destroying other’s civilisation is a real civilisation?
congress agent.
She always talk about Vedic or very old history.. Modern history (last 100 years max) is very important.
And Romila Thapar adopted the Christian missionary outlook about the non-existence of a ‘unified religion’ in India. Only this can explain her wild postulations about Hindu Dharma in what she prefers to call the ‘pre-Islamic’ period.
Why is there no reference to Sanatana Dharma in her writing? Both the term and the system as a whole is so prominent in Indian thinking, treatises, folklore and tradition since time immemorial. Instead, there is repeated reference to some ‘Brahmin dharma’ or ‘Brahminism’ in the writings of the Marxist historians, which according to them was exploitative, cunning and full of class-selfishness.
🤔 🤦♂️This woman doesn’t know the meaning of nAsthikA. Shocking. It doesn’t mean that person doesn’t believe in deities. It just means they don’t believe in Vedas! According to Vedas, ALL are Eternal! अमृतस्य पुत्राः unlike other Religions.
Nationalism of European countries can be equated with regionalism of different states in India and not the nationalism of India.
Too much Nationalism in Europe had lead to wars and too much regionalism in India leads to separatism as India is a diverse country so in a diverse country like India nationalism is very much needed to maintain the unity .
But why think when you can just copy and quote the western historians.
So many separatist in the comments 🤢
She is a British undere indian skin.. that is why she looks the inidain histry from the eye European..
Prof Romila Thapar's approach towards studying History (especially Epics) is really appreciable......the way she has transformed History (from Indology to Social Science) is commendable.....most importantly she has taught us how to differentiate between Mythology and History, and use Mythology to understand past societies......her work shows how Mahabharata and Ramayana were composed from oral traditions and later on converted into Bhagvata texts (Bhriguisation) by Orthodox Brahmins to combat heterodox philosophies (like Buddhism, Jainism)....the epics, mainly Bhagvad Gita, were also used to justify caste system as social ethic and reinforce Kingship.....
Not in case of India. It only strengthened it
इतिहासकार को बस जो हुआ वो बताना होता है न कि जो होना चाहिए उसपर अपने सिद्धांत गढ़ना !!
Evil cancer right here
*Nationalism was invented in 17ty century Europe. You have no clue and are following a European colonial idea if you think it makes complete sense to us from South Asia where hugely diverse populations and nations in their own right exist, like Bengalis, Punjabis, Biharis, Rajistanis, Mahrashtrans. Tamils etc*
If those Methodology and structure of your Analysis has to be called in for naming ceremony would be slated as "Western Dogmatic Superimposition".
Dont Believe me
Just check Etymology for "Profession". She is "Professional Historian" whose pay comes from the current masters "Church".
ye BKL abhi bhi jinda hai 🤡
She single handedly misled the Indian History