Why Do Teams Keep Hiring Retread Head Coaches? | SDP

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss how NHL teams seem to keep hiring the same 40 guys to be bench bosses. Is this actually the case?
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Комментарии • 52

  • @RevengeOFJesus
    @RevengeOFJesus Месяц назад +57

    First glance at the thumbnail and title, I did not read it as 're-tread head coaches'.

  • @jamesbruce8749
    @jamesbruce8749 Месяц назад +11

    32 teams and maybe at best 12 ACTUAL NHL quality coaches.

  • @scottbaron121
    @scottbaron121 Месяц назад +11

    The BEST thing Yzerman ever did for my Lightning was to promote Coop to Head Coach of the Lightning. The guy had been a championship level coach at EVERY stop in his career and had never been an NHL coach before. Yzerman had the foresight to see the potential in Cooper and didn't hesitate to bring him up. Coop CAN'T be an anomaly. There HAVE to be other guys in the AHL and other "minor leagues" that have the ability. It takes an Owner/GM to have the balls to do it. Granted...it's a career defining move for that GM...it COULD get him fired if it doesn't pan out...but look at the Lightning and see the possibilities IF you're successful.

    • @RIPJimmyA7X
      @RIPJimmyA7X Месяц назад

      I feel the same way with Sakic hiring Bednar for my Avs, I don't understand why more teams don't try to find the next Cooper or Bednar

    • @JaredLS10
      @JaredLS10 Месяц назад +3

      Holland tried it in Detroit by hiring Blashill who had won the Calder Trophy in Grand Rapids, problem though was Holland made dumbass signings and didn't initiate the rebuild when he should have. Holland made Blashill a scapegoat.

    • @quartratic2389
      @quartratic2389 Месяц назад

      Wouldn’t have happened if JBB didnt hire him for the Crunch

  • @madmikeschannel8128
    @madmikeschannel8128 Месяц назад +8

    “NJD Bench” may have been when Adam Oates and Scott Stevens split duties as interim.

    • @sportsmaster1364
      @sportsmaster1364 Месяц назад +4

      Oates and Stevens split coaching duties, and Lou also put himself behind the bench during that period. That was his third time as NJ GM firing a coach and making himself the interim in some capacity.

  • @UnhingedCanadian
    @UnhingedCanadian Месяц назад +5

    The oilers turned around when they stopped hiring house name coaches. Started with woodcroft and knoblock just took us to the cup finals… before those guys the oilers were a revolving door for coaches.

  • @sportsmaster1364
    @sportsmaster1364 Месяц назад +1

    Even Woodcroft is, to some degree, a Babcock deciphel. He was Babcock's video coach the last time the Red Wings won the Stanley Cup, and following that Cup he was McLellan's assistant for a decade.

  • @alkumhcounseling8634
    @alkumhcounseling8634 Месяц назад +1

    You know, seeing us how you have had the hockey guy and elite prospects on the pod, you should totally get the nice people at hockey reference

  • @clippedwings0
    @clippedwings0 Месяц назад +1

    Reason: A 'good hockey man' will always hire another 'good hockey man' with whom he has worked in the past (or knows someone who has).
    Doesn't seem to matter if either of them won jack, just 'I know him, he's a good hockey man'.

  • @Cirris
    @Cirris Месяц назад

    Seth Appert, The Rochester Amerks head coach, had to coach a game for the Sabres last year due to Dom Granato having an illness. He wasn't added to that list. Appert is now Ruff's assistant coach in Buffalo.
    Sabres won that game.

  • @jacobb.1535
    @jacobb.1535 Месяц назад +3

    Martin St-Louis, while not a success story in terms of W/L, as been very refreshing for habs fans

    • @RIPJimmyA7X
      @RIPJimmyA7X Месяц назад +1

      St-Louis is a fantastic coach, I think Montreal gets a playoff spot this year

    • @tapeit8135
      @tapeit8135 Месяц назад

      @@RIPJimmyA7Xstop it, east way too strong. They’ll be bottom 5 in the league

  • @MUNZYwitta1Z
    @MUNZYwitta1Z Месяц назад

    Petition to bring a hat-picks/dang-its to sdpn

  • @Mr.StevenKerr
    @Mr.StevenKerr Месяц назад +1

    Why do you guys keep having this exact conversation every 6 months?
    Or talk about Marner, every episode?

  • @codyhertzler2387
    @codyhertzler2387 Месяц назад +1

    Great summary of philly

  • @onebuffalo5402
    @onebuffalo5402 Месяц назад +1

    i mean Ruff was the most successful sabres HC and they've tried like 5 rookie coaches over this 13 year drought so.... thats why lol

  • @GLrebirth
    @GLrebirth Месяц назад

    Torts only lasted 1 year in Vancouver

  • @nolankuffner3573
    @nolankuffner3573 Месяц назад

    Technically 53.
    The "NJD bench" doesn't count, and that site lists coaches who started in 11-12 as the "started in 2012". Dale Hunter, in example, started with Washington in November of 2011, helped them make the playoffs, and returned to London BEFORE the 2012-13 season.
    As far as coaches that have coached in the league since the channel started, you'd basically just look at the "ended in" / current marker.
    Which might give a larger spectrum of coaches that were or are available since SDPN debuted.
    But that's not really the question. The question is, basically, how many NEW head coaches has the NHL debuted since the 2012-13 season? 53. Pretty damn close though.

  • @codydavidyates72
    @codydavidyates72 Месяц назад +1

    I read the title to this video wayyyyy wrong...

  • @Extended_clipsYT
    @Extended_clipsYT Месяц назад

    Spencer carberry is a prime example that we need new coaches in the nhl

  • @xLostInTheFoggx
    @xLostInTheFoggx Месяц назад

    Ray Shero followed up Lou Lamoriello in New Jersey in 2015.

  • @chrislytle9551
    @chrislytle9551 Месяц назад

    I think Ray Shero was the GM after Lou left NJ til what, 2020?

  • @Iselas181
    @Iselas181 Месяц назад

    MSL in montreal is the newest coach I can think of off the top of my head and he was hired 3 years ago.

  • @raymondclouston6255
    @raymondclouston6255 Месяц назад

    Hasn’t Vegas already had like three coaches?

  • @FC-tq1yj
    @FC-tq1yj Месяц назад

    And gms

  • @patrickgoulet8170
    @patrickgoulet8170 Месяц назад +4

    I think it's a dumb concept for a video. If you fired all the NHL players how many of them would be back, probably 80 percent like the coaches? That because you hire the best person, you don't see the leafs hiring some echl sniper that had this many points just because "new blood", to me it makes very little sense.

    • @alkumhcounseling8634
      @alkumhcounseling8634 Месяц назад +4

      I see your logic, but remember their other recent statistic, Scotty Bowman is basically the only coach who has one a cup with more than one team. I really think there's something to be said for bringing in new voices and new ideas. I feel relatively confident that if we had this conversation about the other professional sports leagues there would be much more turnover. but back to your point, do you think there's not a single great coach in the AHL , maybe someone a little younger who could work wonders with a younger franchise?

  • @GP8201
    @GP8201 Месяц назад

    Hockey gods are still sticking it to Pegula ownership in Buffalo for screwing over Pat LaFontaine in 2013 with all that mess bug-eyed GM Murray caused. The Pegulas get involved with team decisions on the ice way too much and yet their team hasn't made the playoffs in over 10 years. Simply look at how the Jack Eichel situation was handled in Buffalo to understand how brutal they are with the lack of respect they have for personnel. Ruff must be desperate.

  • @Sir_Loin87
    @Sir_Loin87 Месяц назад

    Ray Shero took over after Lou left NJ

  • @steve13thlegion16
    @steve13thlegion16 Месяц назад +5

    sabres just came off of ron rolston, phil housley, don granato, and a soccer coach, but youre gonna use them as the retread thumbnail? k hack jobs good work

  • @SuperiorNav
    @SuperiorNav Месяц назад

    Ray Shero was GM for NJD after LOUUUUUUU

  • @niklaskristiansson2740
    @niklaskristiansson2740 Месяц назад

    They should hire coaches from Europe

  • @Pyrospriter042
    @Pyrospriter042 Месяц назад +6

    Two words:
    Boys club.

    • @randysgutful
      @randysgutful Месяц назад +4

      North American boys club at that. God forbid any organization ever looks outside NA for any coaching jobs. The NHL never feels it needs to change, adapt, or progress. Just the same old boys rotating around the league until they die.

    • @idawg7332
      @idawg7332 Месяц назад

      Well it worked out great for the panthers

  • @jayvardy
    @jayvardy Месяц назад +5

    Why do companies require experience? Why not just hire a 19 year old kid fresh out of highschool?

  • @matthewjudge3763
    @matthewjudge3763 Месяц назад

    Because coaches only last a few years, if teams didn’t recycle coaches 90% of coaches nhl careers would be 3 years. Most coaches have more success on the second and third go around.

  • @jonah.donohue
    @jonah.donohue Месяц назад

    Literally nothing wrong with this

  • @scallaghan61
    @scallaghan61 Месяц назад

    Columbus hired 2 new coaches and they both sucked.

  • @MrJonHimself
    @MrJonHimself Месяц назад +1

    The wokeness of these 3 is so hilarious sometimes.

  • @ouromov2895
    @ouromov2895 Месяц назад

    Nepotism.

  • @RichardArchibald-jk7ms
    @RichardArchibald-jk7ms Месяц назад +1

    Trade Marner