Honestly their environment is too toxic for any driver. Maybe DR is the only one who can do well since he is Horner's favorite child. You cannot have 3 drivers in the recent past having same issues, at some point you have to portion blame to the team. In a world where Piastri-Lando, Lewis-George and Charles-Carlos are within a tenth of each other is proof enough the second seat is neglected at RB. Also doesn't help when Helmet Marko is throwing racist stereotypes at your second driver.
Sergio Perez is a weird driver to assess. His junior career was nothing special, but when he was in midfield teams he was beating highly-rated teammates and scoring podiums. But then at Red Bull, he only had 1 good season out of 4. Perhaps he is better in mediocre cars than in good cars, but I'm sure he's not as bad as he is right now. Maybe it's a psychological issue. Who knows.
Definitely think there’s something psychological going on. It’s a tough seat to be in and all things considered, I think he’s handled everything very professionally
Maybe Checo should consider swapping seats with Daniel. Just as Checo is struggling in a car that has an oversteer bias, Daniel is equally struggling in a car with an understeer bias. I can bet that if Checo swapped to the VCARB01, not only will he have a car that will put him in the P6-P10 range, but he will be able to comfortably follow Yuki if not outright pass him compared to Daniel.
Not a bad idea, especially as Daniel won't feel any attachment to RB after they ruined his race with a badly timed pit stop, which almost seemed like it was done just to ruin his race.
@@grogery1570 Of course, unlike his glory days when he can consistently beat Max Verstappen in equal machinery, he knows that his primary role is to be Max's Reubens Barichello, and pick up a win if Max is not in the position to do so.
I’m down to see that. I thought this would actually happen last year, but they decided otherwise. I do think though something like this will happen after Belgium though.
Hating on these guys is ridiculous. The pressures they put themselves through is well beyond what the average human endures. As my mentor likes to say, “you try it…” It sure is easy to run your mouth whilst sitting in your favourite comfy chair.
I still remember the days Checo fans are soo relentless on Albon. Don't get me wrong, I cheered Checo for that Red Bull seat but Checo fans are really something else. But now? They srl say that people are 'cyberbullying' checo when they literally did it in 2020 with Albon
I've been saying this for a while. It's not only the driver skill, it's how the team develops their car around their fastest driver that matters. If they developed around Perez, the results would be flipped (maybe not as much one sided as they are now). That's why nobody wants to face Max in a RedBull. The same was the case with Vettel. They had the car developed around him and then he vent to Ferrari and suddenly isn't dominant anymore. Same with Schumacher. I believe the true talent currently are Alonso and Hamilton.
Every driver has their preferences. The best are obviously able to adapt to anything, but you’ll only see their absolute best performance when the car is suited to their liking. Car and driver in perfect harmony😊
Good video mate. Agree with most of what you said. I think people underestimate the significance of the car itself. I mean, apart from few drivers (you all know who they are each season), the rest is top 0.0001%. Those tenths of a second per lap are usually more up to the car than the driver. Sure there are mistakes especially during 60, 70 lap races, but im sure quali times would be a lot closer if done on a simulator or an identical car. Just look at max this season. As soon as he started not having a best car, he cant win. His main quailty is consistency and being able to get top 5 even when things dont go his way (unlike some who win, then get 16th, then 7th...). But to say he is few levels above everyone... Yeah, no, your car needs to be in a tip top shape as well.
At this point, i really wish checo goes back into midfield. He is a really good driver, by the time he retires I want it to be a memorable career, not reminded by his redbull stint
Mind games! I believe one the car isn’t suited to Checo, but Max. An the fact between Marko and Horners toxic environment. Get him out of there in a good car I believe we will see the old Checo.
When Max finally leaves the nest he might be in for a rude awakening. Those two have their heads so far up his ass that they can see what he ate for breakfast.
My hypothesis is that redbull is an extremely toxic team. It looks to me like Perez always performs well after breaks away from the team eg start of new season and after summer break. Best evidence of this is how redbull treats drivers. Look at what they did to Gasly and Nick. The only drivers not treated like garbage are Max and annoyingly Danny ( complete waste of f1 seat IMO, Lawson should have that seat) To be honest, I think F1 in general is very toxic. A sport where your biggest rival is your teammate is kinda super messed up when you think about it.
F1 is a ruthless place for sure. Especially given how magnified mistakes become due to media coverage. It can be very mentally difficult if you’re struggling.
Great video as always. It's like he starts the season believing he has a chance to take it to Max, but then in round 5, Helmut appears in his mirrors 😅 Just don't think it's been the right environmwnt for him.
Yeah and to add to that, I don’t think it’s the right environment for most drivers. It’s arguably the most difficult job in F1 (figuratively speaking).
He is crashing and underperforming because he is FORCED to drive a car that has not been optimised for his driving preferences or style. They prioritised Max and even he is struggling now. Newey leaving RB is the final nail in the coffin for the team.
2020 Sakhir was the first Grand Prix I watched. I was really happy when Red Bull signed Checo for 2021. But sadly he's just not been able to perform. I've always liked the guy but still I think there are other people who deserve the seat more.
It's because he knows red bull would never let him win the drivers championship over max. He knows what happened in 2021 told to retire his car while under the safety car,which he was shocked to hear but complied. The moved max upto 2nd directly behind lewis. They where in a tight constructors championship and they just threw it away on purpose. 150 million constructors prize i believe. Just for a "chance " for max to win the drivers championship.... i wont even get into that I'll be arguing with thousands of max fans .so anyway back to my point Perez just dosent care ,he knows he'll never become world champion there which will be highly demotivating,if the car isn't the fastest he just dosent try anymore.he knows all of red bulls secrects and what happened in 2021,plus these Secret parts they had which have only been banned about 6 races into the season... seens odd eh.... they know he knows EVERYTHING hes basically untouchable.
im one of those fans. Checo was the main man for me but when he began to ruin my whole race wknd with his terrible qually and performances i now just ignore him. Daniel could NOT drive the new reg RB car nor does he deserve a 2nd chance there. i think if RB get rid of Checo the only person that mite do better in a "Max" set up car is Liam b/c he is a new driver
I look at it like this; the car is like a suit. if it ain't made for you it wouldn't fix right. Gasley, Alex and now Checo. Can really blame them? i don't.
Unfortunate but I think Checo's struggles can be boiled down to the issue of not being able to extract performance from the car(RB19&RB20) . It's completely the opposite; he simply doesn't know how to control the pace of that Red Bull. The car is so far above his talent ceiling that the only result is an inconsistent, dangerous mess.
That’s an interesting take, but I think a bit harsh on Checo’s skill as a driver. One could say Max is just a freak of nature for liking a car that’s incredibly sensitive. And on the other hand, you could say Checo has the less conventional style. Either way, he simply cannot deal with how twitchy it is.
I think checo perez never fails, redbull never really give a chance to compit , they make a idol on Max , no because max was really good they knew sergio can kick the max ass 😊😊
@@4Leka doesn't mean anyone can do the same. The car is quick, but incredibly tricky to drive. Often time you have to add more rear downforce to even have a stable car which means you are just a lot slower compared to max.
Hey you're back! But yeah, Checo's just not been good at all since Monaco 2023 and it has a lot to do with what you said in that video but no doubt I think he can do something in a car that isn't as sensitive as the Red Bull. But for real, great video this one!
Reality is Perez was never that good. People need to remember in 2012 Sauber were genuinely good and koybashi was oj average faster driver just was unlucky. Than joined McLaren and he was simply terrible Than he only ever started being faster when lance arrived. Lance is just not a good driver benchmark.
The problem with the No.2 driver at RB is that they try to be at Max's level. If they just kept performing at the top of their game in the RB, they would always be P2 or P3. Instead of it, they overdrive and end up being the joke of the grid. It's their fault, not the car's, not the team's, not the No.1 driver.
Bad take on this whole situation. You don't even say a word about Lambiase. In 2022 Lambiase took over as Head of Race Engineering from Guillaume Rocquelin for Red Bull Racing, while also retaining his role as race engineer for Verstappen.
Honestly their environment is too toxic for any driver. Maybe DR is the only one who can do well since he is Horner's favorite child. You cannot have 3 drivers in the recent past having same issues, at some point you have to portion blame to the team. In a world where Piastri-Lando, Lewis-George and Charles-Carlos are within a tenth of each other is proof enough the second seat is neglected at RB. Also doesn't help when Helmet Marko is throwing racist stereotypes at your second driver.
Drivers seem a lot happier and more likeable when they leave Red Bull
Yeah the Marko comment was crazy. Makes you think what they say about him behind closed doors
That's exactly what happened to Sebastian Vettel when he moved from Red Bull to Ferrari once Leclerc came on board.
At least Vettel usually was able to qualify in Q3 with a good car
@@samsea0489bros forgetting sBinalla. I actually rate vettel and checo closely
@@rizzoli7 Sure Whatever
@@samsea0489 pissed little buddy?
@@rizzoli7 No l just disagree with you. That’s all
Sergio Perez is a weird driver to assess. His junior career was nothing special, but when he was in midfield teams he was beating highly-rated teammates and scoring podiums. But then at Red Bull, he only had 1 good season out of 4. Perhaps he is better in mediocre cars than in good cars, but I'm sure he's not as bad as he is right now. Maybe it's a psychological issue. Who knows.
Definitely think there’s something psychological going on. It’s a tough seat to be in and all things considered, I think he’s handled everything very professionally
He was special in his junior career, he was beating adults in formula telmex when he was 10 years old 💀
Maybe Checo should consider swapping seats with Daniel.
Just as Checo is struggling in a car that has an oversteer bias, Daniel is equally struggling in a car with an understeer bias.
I can bet that if Checo swapped to the VCARB01, not only will he have a car that will put him in the P6-P10 range, but he will be able to comfortably follow Yuki if not outright pass him compared to Daniel.
Not a bad idea, especially as Daniel won't feel any attachment to RB after they ruined his race with a badly timed pit stop, which almost seemed like it was done just to ruin his race.
@@grogery1570 Of course, unlike his glory days when he can consistently beat Max Verstappen in equal machinery, he knows that his primary role is to be Max's Reubens Barichello, and pick up a win if Max is not in the position to do so.
I’m down to see that. I thought this would actually happen last year, but they decided otherwise. I do think though something like this will happen after Belgium though.
Both need to go.
Not "retire" but get sacked.
F1 is not a charity
Hating on these guys is ridiculous. The pressures they put themselves through is well beyond what the average human endures.
As my mentor likes to say, “you try it…”
It sure is easy to run your mouth whilst sitting in your favourite comfy chair.
I still remember the days Checo fans are soo relentless on Albon. Don't get me wrong, I cheered Checo for that Red Bull seat but Checo fans are really something else. But now? They srl say that people are 'cyberbullying' checo when they literally did it in 2020 with Albon
I've been saying this for a while. It's not only the driver skill, it's how the team develops their car around their fastest driver that matters. If they developed around Perez, the results would be flipped (maybe not as much one sided as they are now). That's why nobody wants to face Max in a RedBull. The same was the case with Vettel. They had the car developed around him and then he vent to Ferrari and suddenly isn't dominant anymore. Same with Schumacher. I believe the true talent currently are Alonso and Hamilton.
Every driver has their preferences. The best are obviously able to adapt to anything, but you’ll only see their absolute best performance when the car is suited to their liking. Car and driver in perfect harmony😊
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good video mate. Agree with most of what you said. I think people underestimate the significance of the car itself. I mean, apart from few drivers (you all know who they are each season), the rest is top 0.0001%. Those tenths of a second per lap are usually more up to the car than the driver. Sure there are mistakes especially during 60, 70 lap races, but im sure quali times would be a lot closer if done on a simulator or an identical car. Just look at max this season. As soon as he started not having a best car, he cant win. His main quailty is consistency and being able to get top 5 even when things dont go his way (unlike some who win, then get 16th, then 7th...). But to say he is few levels above everyone... Yeah, no, your car needs to be in a tip top shape as well.
At this point, i really wish checo goes back into midfield. He is a really good driver, by the time he retires I want it to be a memorable career, not reminded by his redbull stint
Anyone thinks others can do better is insane. The situation is a given. Checo has already done a hear miracle to live that long.
Incredible commentary as always brother
Although the gap between Ric and Ver would have increased as time progressed
Ty sir :)
@@mattroyce for sure. Verstappen was still a kid back then.
Mind games! I believe one the car isn’t suited to Checo, but Max. An the fact between Marko and Horners toxic environment. Get him out of there in a good car I believe we will see the old Checo.
I do think Perez would be much better in a different environment. Red Bull has tired him out.
When Max finally leaves the nest he might be in for a rude awakening. Those two have their heads so far up his ass that they can see what he ate for breakfast.
Agree
And Lambiase serving a double role at RBR is affecting him so much.
@@BMPHF1 So, you're saying he's not mentally stable to perform in the best team at the highest of motorsport. Get it!
Max nearly ended Albon's career too
My hypothesis is that redbull is an extremely toxic team. It looks to me like Perez always performs well after breaks away from the team eg start of new season and after summer break. Best evidence of this is how redbull treats drivers. Look at what they did to Gasly and Nick. The only drivers not treated like garbage are Max and annoyingly Danny ( complete waste of f1 seat IMO, Lawson should have that seat)
To be honest, I think F1 in general is very toxic. A sport where your biggest rival is your teammate is kinda super messed up when you think about it.
F1 is a ruthless place for sure. Especially given how magnified mistakes become due to media coverage. It can be very mentally difficult if you’re struggling.
Great video as always. It's like he starts the season believing he has a chance to take it to Max, but then in round 5, Helmut appears in his mirrors 😅 Just don't think it's been the right environmwnt for him.
“Helmut appears in his mirrors” 😂😂😂
Yeah and to add to that, I don’t think it’s the right environment for most drivers. It’s arguably the most difficult job in F1 (figuratively speaking).
He is crashing and underperforming because he is FORCED to drive a car that has not been optimised for his driving preferences or style. They prioritised Max and even he is struggling now. Newey leaving RB is the final nail in the coffin for the team.
We’ll see what happens with Max as well. Have a feeling that the next few races won’t be so smooth for Red Bull and he might start peeping elsewhere
2020 Sakhir was the first Grand Prix I watched. I was really happy when Red Bull signed Checo for 2021. But sadly he's just not been able to perform. I've always liked the guy but still I think there are other people who deserve the seat more.
2020 Sakhir was the day I became a Checo fan. The resilience to go through what he went through and then triumph so spectacularly was amazing.
12:35 i have never seen someone with such a relatable opinion. Honestly the entire video, you have talked about the things in my mind. Great vid mate!
Agree 100 percent.
On the bright side he made up a lot of ground in Hungary and got into the points. 🎉🎉
For sure he did :)
Good to see you making videos again
Really enjoyed
Thank you for tuning in despite the long break haha. Had to take some time off for uni, but back now
It's just the curse of red bull second seat ...
So it was then, now and forever☠️
A poisoned chalice one might say
It's because he knows red bull would never let him win the drivers championship over max. He knows what happened in 2021 told to retire his car while under the safety car,which he was shocked to hear but complied. The moved max upto 2nd directly behind lewis. They where in a tight constructors championship and they just threw it away on purpose. 150 million constructors prize i believe. Just for a "chance " for max to win the drivers championship.... i wont even get into that I'll be arguing with thousands of max fans .so anyway back to my point Perez just dosent care ,he knows he'll never become world champion there which will be highly demotivating,if the car isn't the fastest he just dosent try anymore.he knows all of red bulls secrects and what happened in 2021,plus these Secret parts they had which have only been banned about 6 races into the season... seens odd eh.... they know he knows EVERYTHING hes basically untouchable.
The fall of checo or the fall or Red Bull
im one of those fans. Checo was the main man for me but when he began to ruin my whole race wknd with his terrible qually and performances i now just ignore him. Daniel could NOT drive the new reg RB car nor does he deserve a 2nd chance there. i think if RB get rid of Checo the only person that mite do better in a "Max" set up car is Liam b/c he is a new driver
He actually did last year with his tyre test…
But I do agree that he doesn’t deserve the seat
Liam is a shout and so is Yuki
I look at it like this; the car is like a suit. if it ain't made for you it wouldn't fix right. Gasley, Alex and now Checo. Can really blame them? i don't.
Exactly this. The next driver will be hyped up, just to be reared down again like the others
You never miss!
Ty :)
Laughing stock? I believe those in the know do not think of Sergio as such.
It never work out well for anyone who is MAX partner-I know he can do better.
Unfortunate but I think Checo's struggles can be boiled down to the issue of not being able to extract performance from the car(RB19&RB20) . It's completely the opposite; he simply doesn't know how to control the pace of that Red Bull. The car is so far above his talent ceiling that the only result is an inconsistent, dangerous mess.
Spot on!
That’s an interesting take, but I think a bit harsh on Checo’s skill as a driver. One could say Max is just a freak of nature for liking a car that’s incredibly sensitive. And on the other hand, you could say Checo has the less conventional style. Either way, he simply cannot deal with how twitchy it is.
Checo to Haas, Sauber or Alpine.
I think checo perez never fails, redbull never really give a chance to compit , they make a idol on Max , no because max was really good they knew sergio can kick the max ass 😊😊
Man said tragic uno. 😁
Red Bull should get Bottas to replace Checo
The guy 22nd in a 20 driver championship?
@@danishkfd If you think that's because of his lack of talent and not the car and team, you don't know anything about F1.
@@4Leka I mean you can say the same about checo. The car is just terrible and insanely hard to handle. This is even before this year.
@@danishkfd Are you joking? Checo has had a race-winning car in a championship-winning team for multiple years now.
@@4Leka doesn't mean anyone can do the same. The car is quick, but incredibly tricky to drive. Often time you have to add more rear downforce to even have a stable car which means you are just a lot slower compared to max.
Tragic fall? he is literally driving for the best team and shows that he isn't even close to being competitive
Hey you're back! But yeah, Checo's just not been good at all since Monaco 2023 and it has a lot to do with what you said in that video but no doubt I think he can do something in a car that isn't as sensitive as the Red Bull. But for real, great video this one!
Hi! Yes I’m back. Have been working a lot on uni over the past year, but am returning to consistent uploads now. Thanks for supporting as always! :)
Reality is Perez was never that good. People need to remember in 2012 Sauber were genuinely good and koybashi was oj average faster driver just was unlucky.
Than joined McLaren and he was simply terrible
Than he only ever started being faster when lance arrived. Lance is just not a good driver benchmark.
Outqualified Button and out scored him the second half of the season as a rookie. Not a bad outing as it's made out to be I think.
He’s a midfield driver, he can’t handle being at the top
He was never very good. Gasly, Albon, Ric are all tougher team mates than Perez.
sergio perez for mersedes
The problem with the No.2 driver at RB is that they try to be at Max's level. If they just kept performing at the top of their game in the RB, they would always be P2 or P3. Instead of it, they overdrive and end up being the joke of the grid. It's their fault, not the car's, not the team's, not the No.1 driver.
Bad take on this whole situation. You don't even say a word about Lambiase. In 2022 Lambiase took over as Head of Race Engineering from Guillaume Rocquelin for Red Bull Racing, while also retaining his role as race engineer for Verstappen.
Because he’s washed
Hilarious when people say Lewis has been falling off since 2021... so what do they call this lol
Well Perez isn't Hamilton. Perez is a driver who got fired in McLaren.
You just can hold your hate, your racism, Charles leclerc is in the same situation than sergio perez, but you will never criticize him.
What the fuck??? hahaha