I think Oscar is already preparing for next season. He’s making sure nobody will ever think he should be Norris’s puppet next year since he might actually have a shot for the title. It’s totally understandable and it’s what he should do.
Exactly. But Norris should stop listen to the team, too. He trusted the team and gave Oscar the 1st place in Hungary. He should just ignore that teamorder to be fair
@@carownervirus4438 people seem to forget very quickly that it’s his second season in F1 and the fact he’s even remotely close to Norris tells a bigger story
I saw a lot of people saying "Lando might lose the WDC because of Oscar" completely forgetting that a championship is fought over every single race, not a couple of them. Lando is not nearly consistent enough for the WDC and if he loses it's because of his multiple fumbles throughout the season, not one move in one race by Oscar
Yeah agreed. Oscar is not obliged to help him. And knowing Mark Webber, he definitely wouldn’t allow Oscar to be a number 2 unless it becomes mathematically impossible for Oscar to win the championship.
Lando is faster than Oscar in clean air, but Oscar defends and attacks much better. In the end, that overtake at Monza is the best thing that could happen to Lando, now he knows he is on his own. Now he can start winning like a grown man.
Definitely. No more Hungary moments. He's gotta fight Oscar tooth and nail now. Send a message. Lando has been there longer and is overall performing better this year. I dont think Oscar can catch Max unless Max starts DNF'ing consistently.
Oscar attacks better because he has less to lose in crashes. It's actually that simple. Norris has to be careful because any dnf ruins his shot at the title. Oscar doesn't really have a chance at it so he's mostly focused on messing with Norris' head. The team should have put their foot down if they could quite awhile back, but I'm guessing Piastri has a contract that says they can't do that.
Neither are ready to win a championship let's just remember Leclerc's crash in France. Verstappen had the best internship with hamilton in 2021 and no teammate who was consistent enough after Ricciardo. Both mercedes and redbull are recent championship wining teams which can't be said for neither ferrari nor mclaren. So no i don't think that would be true ..
@@yasmine8164 i definitely agree with you there, Charles is still not ready. iMO he is a much better talent than Lando, and he has shown he can beat max one on one, Bahrain 22, and other isolated instances. Something lando is yet to show. You really arent ready until you are in that position i suppose. What i really meant though was, i see a more likely scenario Charles beats Lando in the standings this year.
Charles beating Lando for 2nd place is more likely than Lando winning the title as well. Ferrari never had a car as good as McLaren had for several races this year and Charles is pretty close to Lando anyway. Out of all drivers without a title, Charles seems to be the most capable of becoming a champion in my opinion.
Lol leclerc crumbled under pressure when leading the race ONCE in his f1 career, ONCE. He's been easily top 3 drivers on the grid over the past few years and other so-called champions have made the same mistakes as him, if there's one driver that's ready to win his first wdc title it's definitely leclerc @@yasmine8164
@@marco_1909charles will be ready when his car will be competitive enough to win all races from Bahrain to abu Dhabi, not only in the first or last part of the season...something that amongst the top drivers has only happened to him
If there is a second... is Norris... he's the second coming of Damon Hill. Amazing if nobody is close, but as soon as he actually has to compete with other cars, he MELTS DOWN
@@Fastbikkel Facts, I feel like when you're stuck in that second driver pos, noone will see past that. I mean, look at Carlos rn. He is a super solid driver, almost on the same level as Charles, but has been relegated as a no.2 driver, and will never outlive that
" simply lovely" is what Lando said when he won at Zandvoort as a dig to Max. Max knew he didn't have the car to be competitive in Monza but I bet he thought " Simply lovely" when he saw the " papaya rules" up front. Charles did him a solid.
Aio, I can’t believe ppl think Lando was having a “dig” at max when he said “simply lovely”. You can clearly understand it just a lil banter. You ppl are beyond miserable
@@TheBrass18 darling you clearly don't know the rules of engagement. If you use a quote that is clearly a victory quote from your " friend" in front of his home crowd when you win, it is in fact a " dig". Payback for Austria I presume.
As a Leclerc fan it makes me happy that Redbull and Mclaren are suffering from the same exact things we were called babies over. Redbull and their car development for a 2nd driver and now Mclaren with their nonexistent team orders. The nonstop "Leclerc is overrated" rhetoric in 2022 and 2023 has brought me to this mindset.
By whose standard I wonder. I had the pleasure of seeing both Max and Charles during their carting days and believe you me, they both lived up to the very high standard they had back then. But you know what they say " the lie of today is the truth of tomorrow" . I bet all those people who called Charles overrated are praising him into the high heavens now.
@@BMPHF1charles was meme’d most of 2022/3 seasons for unforced errorss, folding with and without pressure, to the point where people wondered whether he was indeed Ferrari worthy
@@muntublackson4757 It goes beyond that too, his horrible pole to win conversion rate was also mocked by multiple fan bases without factoring if it was his fault or not.
The real news is that Mclaren essentially lost that race for no reason. There was legitimately no reason for them to pit Piastri at the end. The gap to leclerc was 5 seconds and getting bigger when Norris pitted so they essentially pitted Piastri to cover his own team mate. They should have left Piastri out and reacted to Leclerc/Sainz if they decided to pit. They had winning hand but they showed it early and Ferrari took advantage. Even if Piastri's tires had fallen off a cliff and Leclerc had closed up the dirty air would have killed his tires too. and even if Norris had come through and overtaken them both mclaren still would've had a 1-2 finish. Someone please make it make sense.
This all happened because each team's cars had their own level of tyre degradation and considering going on a 1-pit stop for a team like mclaren that had a slightly worse tyre deg would have meant throwing away not only the win but also the race as they could this wasn't possible. If they had taken the risk they would have witnessed a similar situation to silverstone 2020 with Lewis
mclaren is starting to piss me off honestly. this doesn't feel like a "title fight". it's max holding on for dear life and mclaren actively trying to throw lando overboard.
It was never a title fight - not with a 60+ points gap. Be realistic, Max still has one hand on the title. McLaren did nothing wrong in letting their drivers race, that's what drivers are meant to do. Team orders are worthless anyway. Their main mistake was underestimating Leclerc.
its mclaren letting their drivers race - trouble with mostr so called f1 fans these days is that they arnt really interested in racing, its just show business
@@mutleyengprobably no one would have a problem with “let them race” if that same logic was applied in Hungary. In Hungary whoever was leading turn 1 lap 1 would win the race. Now all of a sudden it’s let them race.
Honestly I think leclerc deserves the championship this year if it’s based solely on merit. He’s won at both opportunities and has dragged that Ferrari to places it shouldn’t have been
Yeah sure, a driver with 2 wins and fewer points is definitely more deserving than a driver with SEVEN wins and more points. That's exactly how sport should work.
@@motelghost477 so max decided to show up for half a season, cause he hasn’t won anything since Spain? I already know you’d blame the car, but Ferraris car has been worse than Red Bull except Monaco and Monza and leclerc won on those two opportunities.
I would never have imagined that another F1 team could fumble an open goal as much as McLaren are right now. Come on guys, get it together. This is your chance to beat Redbull . These opportunities are few and far between in F1.
Piastri has two jobs at McLaren - help the team win the Constructors title and help himself win the drivers title. It is not Piastri's job to help his team mate. A driver's only responsibility is to the team and to himself.
He outqualifies him most of the times, which is just one part of the weekend and could be the result of a tow or a favouring pit release, but the most important part is Sunday, and I agree, in the race he's not outperforming him consistently enough
@@kizer0161We have to remember Piastri might be better because he has less to lose if he messes up. Norris, at least this season is better than Piastri, but the pressure is getting to him.
Dude is like 40 points ahead in the championship, I'd argue that means he consistently outperforms him. If they hadn't imposed stupid team orders in Hungary, Lando would have 3 wins to Oscar's 0, not to mention all the times Lando was directly behind Max at the finish line while Oscar was nowhere near. In the entire championship, Lando has been miles clear of Oscar most of the time. We also have to consider that Lando has everything to lose, so he has little to do against an aggressive move by his teammate.
@@fedeeeeee If they hadn’t imposed stupid team orders everywhere else or put Oscar on pit strategies that not only disadvantaged him against Norris but also against the other drivers it’d be a lot less. He should’ve won Silverstone and Spa at least. As if McLaren’s pit crew who did a 1.8s stop in the oppressive heat of Qatar can’t do a frigging double stack pit stop instead of sending one driver around again on a wet Silverstone, losing 20 seconds and nearly crashing out several times. Give me a break. 💀
@@vvRADOvv then what happened at Monza? Piastri could've won Silverstone had the team pitted him at the right time, he didn't get the same upgrades as Lando in Miami...many times he lost only coz of luck. That's not outright beating your teammate. Look at Max beating Checo... that's called outright beating(but since Piastri is better than Checo, it's difficult for Lando to do the same)
If anyone thinks Oscar should just let Lando by and not diggt him, youre being delusional or British. If Lando wants to win the championship, he has to win and not expect oscar to nit race.
@@blasphemer_amon he has a fast car, so he just needs to beat his teammate and one other driver, not 18 other drivers right? I'm not saying this, Lando himself had said this(about Hamilton) XD
Oscar should have at least given him that 2nd place since Lando gave him a race win.. Oscar would have been 2nd place at Monza ANYWAY if he just stayed behind Norris instead of dive bombing him and almost taking them both out of the race. The only thing that changed was flipping around what place Norris and LeClerc finished.. Oscar would have been 2nd place either way and cocked it up for his teammate..
This just shows how much inexperienced they are for competing at the top because it’s been a long time since they last won a championship. Hope they learn something from this and don’t repeat in the future. A good thing is constructors is in the bag.
Yeah hopefully everyone learns from this. Stella in managing the drivers. Lando in performing under pressure. Next year will be a stronger campaign should they start on the front-foot
They fumble two races already as far as I’m concerned, what a lost opportunity if the strategy was right. Poor Norris I knew what he felt if I’m in his shoes.
These lot can can fumble that constructors title, all it takes is for red bull to get their design right and Perez to finish above Mercedes and ferrari and its over for them
Mclaren have been helping Norris so many times already...how many times have they pitted Norris first where Piastri should have been brought in. Norris chokes too often, Piastri doesn't. You can't expect a great driver like Piastri to step aside.
What a joke. They are like a rookie team, and not one that has 12 WDCs and 8 constructors championships... Oscar is ruthless and must have a water-tight contract haha #Multi21. I love Landp but he needs to match or beat Oscar's ruthlessness, let alone someone like Lewis or Max.
Yeah it’s pretty frustrating. I want to see Lando do well but he keeps making small mistakes that add up. I have no idea how McLaren will take control over the situation since Oscar is getting better so quick
@@BMPHF1 I think Lando feels the pressure and takes responsibility because he's the senior driver. He's being too soft with Oscar because he's still "the new guy", though Oscar doesn't give a shit because he's not the same type of person Lando is. I think Lando needs to bolster himself mentally and take a note from Oscar: *_Be cutthroat, cold and vicious._* Do what you want, but only if you can disguise it well enough and/or take the heat afterwards. Oscar only took that position because he knew that Lando wouldn't expect it and that not only would he not have any more way to counter it, but he wouldn't race him back hard enough because it would most likely result in a crash.
Oscar did the right move. The only mistake here is that Lando fucked his exit by trying to fight back. Obviously it caught him by surprise but as a racing driver you need to react properly and if fighting makes you lose 2 positions instead of one, maybe consider backing off and fighting back another time especially when there is still the whole race ahead of you. It's not like it was the last lap. Lando was just caught slacking.
Oscar can cancel his contract and go to Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes if they issue a team order against Oscar Webber warned Zac to stop the team orders being issued. Oscar suffered nonsense at Melb, Miami, British GP and many others
Redbull, Ferrari and Mercedes have significantly better drivers. They don’t need a guy getting whitewashed 13-3 in qualifying to Lando and can’t even beat Leclerc with the fastest car.
Facts man, Piastri ain’t settling for a #2 and he could be fighting for the championship if it wasn’t for McLaren screwing him over so many times. Long term McLaren are realizing he’s gonna be their actual #1
I get that they may see more potential in Piastri, but long term performance is not a guarantee. In sport, you have to seize opportunities when they present themselves and McLaren are wasting an opportunity to win both championships. If they can't get the drivers to work together, they might not even win the Constructors. I've been a McLaren fan since 2008 and it causes me physical pain to watch them refuse to recognise that they have a chance to get a championship double. I was slightly disappointed when Lando said he didn't want to talk about the drivers championship after qualifying. that attitude is costing him. He has to take the championship seriously and push the team to support him in the battle. If he can't do this, then he doesn't deserve to win. What happened in Hungary, and what Happened yesterday are a result of Lando not being assertive enough with his championship hopes. I'm starting to wonder if he even thinks he can win the championship at this point.
People don’t understand that WDC is individual. The WCC is the most important for the teams. Oscar gains nothing from helping Lando, on the contrary he hurts his own career. The will win the WCC anyway. Have you forgot how much team orders suck? Valtteri it’s James…
Whilst the WCC is important even Horner said himself when Max won his first WDC “was he annoyed they didn’t get WCC” He said No- at the end of the day it’s a redbull driver picking up the WDC that’s what the people care about more
I'm a McLaren fan and a big supporter of Lando, but I agree with most of what was said in this video. If Lando doesn't win the championship this year, then I think whilst he'll be upset, he can go into the winter break with huge lessons to take away from this season. He can't just rely on his team to engineer things for him, he's got to toughen up and drive like he WANTS it! If he drove more aggressively, he'd have more wins under his belt by now.
The Constructors Championship is the one that matters and McLaren is on course to win it. Moreover, no one here has seen Oscar Piastri's contract. Zak Brown said it before the race in Monza. Mclaren has 2 no. 1 drivers. Let's not get carried away by the British Bias in Formula 1.
Why is everyone acting like OP is the best driver on the grid. Ffs, he's young and talented for sure but he's not the second coming of Senna or Schumacher. Youd think OP was ahead of LN in points reading these comments. I want to see a title fight. Max is probably laughing his ass off and is the only one really benefiting here.
oscar is in fact a prodigy, he won every category prior to f1 and he’s performing really well in f1, this being his second season. He has the potential to be great and I think he will be
Honestly, the comparison to 2007 mclaren is not that bad. Keep in mind, Piastri *is* the best rookie we've had since Hamilton, and while certainly not hamilton level, this mclaren is probably the closest we'll see to that mclaren for a long time. Solid points though.
From piastri point. Of view; Lando being ahead Doesnt make piastri a number 2 ; defence minister driver, Nothing is owed.. Only if you have the copy of piastri contract then declare lando the lead driver
As a McLaren fan this was exactly what I felt. In the heat of the post race disappointment, I was furious that Oscar made that dangerous move instead of a 1-2. Watched Palmer's analysis later. Clear that Lando didn't go as hard and took it easy, left the door open. Norris should stop being the nice soft guy and embrace that villain era Vettel and Max went through. He should be ruthless on track like Max has been not minding the social media nonsense. People have horrible takes because internet is cheap and accessible. Oscar isn't gonna stand with his hands folded. What McLaren did was also shit though. You never know when Ferrari will gain race pace and overtake McLaren in the WCC standings. Monza brought them back in the fight. It's an amazing season for the constructors.
Ice cold dumb as hell lol.. Almost took them both out of the race if Lando didn't have Jedi instincts, and ultimately all he did was hand Lando's P1 finish to LeClerc. He would have finished 2nd either way, whether he dive bombed Lando or not..
All of Lando's weaknesses have been unraveled this year. Last year, he's screwing up his quali particularly in Qatar and Abu Dhabi. This year, literally all of his mistakes have become so habitual that people are literally getting richer by betting that he's gonna lose again in lap 1.
Imo the team nor Lando doesn't deserve to win the WDC this season. The amount of mistakes regarding strategy or driver error is something they have to reflect on. I hope next season it's better for them but Piastri continuously improving and potentially being better than Lando is a problem
These mistakes all add up. It’ll feel weird if they do win especially after all the fumbles they’ve had. But, again a lot can happen in 8 races. They could get their act together in that time.
There was no clear dominant car in 07. I’m sorry but this is a far stretch from you. Implying that kimi won the title because of a superior car througout the season is quite off from the reality. In fact, it was the first car Kimi had that could fight for a title. Cars were close that year and drivers were close and the end result it was a verry narrow win. All three drivers were top. We’ll never know which was the best team because there was no single best team. Both team had their strenghts on different circuits.
Sick of the lando fanboys having a cry… if lando wants to be world champion than he needs to try and actually lead the first lap for once in his career and if he can’t then he doesn’t deserve to be the WC
The gap between Lando and Oscar is smaller than the gap between Lando and max why wouldn’t Oscar try to take that p2 from Lando ? Is he his pet dog or something ? Or maybe Lando should stop driving like shit if he really thinks he can fight for the title
People who understand Formula 1 and it's history understand appreciate team discipline. Look up 2007 season when Kimi Raikonen won WDC with Ferrari by 1 point while Hamilton and Alonso were in McLaren civil war. I don't care for Lando Norris but there is no argument that if McLaren care to win both championships they have to carry him as a team, something Schumacher got from Ferrari in his days to the point of taking parts from his teammate's car and excluding teammates from meetings. Fans hate it and naive simpletons think it's completely unnecessary, but ruthless team mentality brings the maximum dominance allowed by resources. If you're rooting for Verstappen, keep saying "McLaren should have two No1 drivers and Norris doesn't deserve to be a champion"; because that helps Max.
How are you going to win races if you can’t keep P1 on the first lap. Lando just doesn’t have the killer instinct. I don’t blame Oscar because anyone else in P2 would have capitalized. Lando just doesn’t have the killer instinct. He’s a talented driver but is too much of a nice guy to stamp his authority on his teammates and rivals.
Team order for winning constructor championship is logical. Driver championship is individual achievement. Having team order to jeopardize one drvier to favor another driver to win a driver championship is outright unfair. Both drivers should allow to race for themselves if they are not harming the Constructor championship. In this race, even if Lando keep his pole in 1st lap, they would still be wiped out by Ferrari’s one-stop strategy. So just let them race as long as they leave each other some space!
If I was Lando, I straight up tell the team, “I let a win go in Hungary, and let go of championship points when I am Max’s closest rival, because you screwed up, and now, you are allowing a situation where we are compromising the overall result of the team, by letting the two cars fight unnecessarily. Now if, you don’t control the situation, and I am in a compromising position with my team mate, I am not backing down, and if we crash, it will be on you.
you take the first few corners in tandem and gap the rest of the pack. Like doctors. Not trip over eachother, tow a rival in drs range for several laps, get gapped and bottle the win. Veterans win very boring races. What's the point of having 2 cars with the same livery then? Pictures?
I don't get it. Most people (outside of the UK at least) would have thought it was a good weekend for McLaren. They lost 3 points to Ferrari sure, but gained massively on RB and Mercedes. So why are people down on them and suggesting that they screwed up? I'll tell you why, it is largely the British press who somehow seem to conflate McLaren's success with Lando's chances in the WDC. Note to the British press: McLaren is NOT the same thing as Norris. Go back 6 years and all of Zac Brown's talk and strategy was around McLaren's position in the Constructor's, not about the Driver's Championship. Now that he can smell success in terms of his goals (the Constructor's) I doubt he gives a shit about Lando and the WDC. As long a McLaren is outscoring it's rivals an on track to win the Constructor's, who cares if it's Lando or Oscar scoring the points? What also seems to get missed is that Oscar is a far better chance of taking 3rd than Lando is of winning. Back the shorter odds I say.
@@RudolfJvVuuren Not at all. McLaren takes a chunk of points out of their Constructor's rival, both cars finish and both are on the podium. How is that a disaster? Lots of talk that Piastri's move allowed LeClerc through. It did, but that wasn't what won Ferrari the race, remembering that McLaren used the undercut to get Piastri back into 2nd anyhow. What won Ferrari the race was that LeClerc executed a one stop very well. McLaren went with a two stop, executed it well, but couldn't get there in the end. It was only a 'bad' strategy in hindsight. Solid weekend for McLaren I say.
@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 And they lost to ferrari with Alonso/Hamilton. Prost-Senna is another thing, that McLaren-Honda was way to ahead of the others, just like Hamilton/Rosberg. When you have the dominant car by a good margin than its ok to have 2 number 1 drivers.
Norris actually has a chance to catch Max. Oscar does not. You should 100% push Norris. Let them compete for driver 1 next year, but right now Oscar has no shot, and Norris does. Pull your heads out of your asses.
See, the problem is Lando. I like Lando and everything, but he's expecting things to be handed to him. He lives in a world where he thinks being nice, not having your elbows out, and letting the championship come to you works when fighting for a wdc. He needs to be intent about it. Steer the garage towards your side like Michael, Fernando, Lewis, or Max. The team is not focused on his side of the garage because he doesn't demand it. If he can be more aggressive, and more intent towards fighting for the wdc, the team will back him up. Zach is looking for a driver he can go all in with. Right now he wants a 2-horse race because he knows Lando doesn't quite have that dog in him. Oscar does, but his points are not as high as Lando's. So he has his hands tied. He doesn't want to baby Lando to a wdc. He wants to see Lando go out and grab it - which he's not doing.
11:33 "he does not want to sit in dirty air of his teammate whole race" okay mate but why then Oscar doesn't have points anywhere near as Lando so maybe he can strike the wdc, Lando did a better job this year and has a greater chance of getting Max, but no poor Oscar he should not get team orders he should be able to race
Junior team director. They could have finished 1 and 2 if the director would have said this one is for Lando. Just like Barrichello did for Michael and to protect his lead. Team work. Piastry is in his puberty still and want's to be king. I hope Zak will come around.
It’s funny when the dude who is in “puberty” has won more races, more championships and taken more poles in his career than the dude who is supposed to be number one. Stop expecting Oscar to just kneel over and submit, Lewis would, Max would, Schumacher wouldn’t. So why should Oscar. Take your feelings and emotions out of it and just think lol
@@MaCcAM40a3i really like Oscar and he is a generational talent, but you're acting like Oscar is leagues ahead of Lando. You can't really compare junior category success anyway, since the quality of drivers vary so much between seasons. Lando had much better competition in f2 with George Russell and Alex Albon, meanwhile Piastri's closest competition was Robert Shwartzman and Zhou Guanyu and no, you don't need to be an asshole on track to win championships. Btw, the great Sir Lewis Hamilton thought Lando did the right thing by letting Piastri past Schumacher didn't win 7 WDC because he was selfish, in fact that side of his personality cost him one championship, and it probably should've cost him another one as well he won so much because he worked hard with his team and surrounded himself with good, talented people who wanted to see him succeed, and you don't do that by being selfish Oscar has pretty much no chance of securing the title for himself. It's a lot smarter to help Lando this season, then if he outperforms him next season, have Lando and the Team prioritise him
Youre correct. But as a team mindset us Mclaren fans waiting since Senna really want them to work together. But Oscars a great driver. But he is still green. Lando shouldnt have left the door open. But if he would have faught for it theyd have both been out. Lando had Max take him out. He knows its better to be safe and get points than be out of the race completely. Either way. We have the best two drivers! And you cant be mad at Oscar for being so damn good. And thats great. But still really wat to see Lando get the Drivers. Pretty sure we getting the Constuctors though. Which is amazing!
The only thing about all these debates about lando not wanting it enough, i dont think him giving nice pr answers in the interviews are not him not wanting it enough. You can tell by how pissed he is every time he has come in second this year that he does really want it and wants to win, so i dont think its an issue about not wanting it enough
@@paperplane-db8qfSaying he’s dominating Oscar is a looong shot from reality when Norris beat Oscar just in 10 races out of 16. If he was indeed dominating Oscar, he should’ve beat him in at least 14 of these occasions
I made it 15:03 through :P Loved it. Hard to not be biased as an Australian, but I am loving the development of McLaren. 4 teams capable of wins is as good to me as 2021 Max vs Lewis. McLaren won't have the fastest car forever, and it's Max's title to lose. Truly blockbuster stuff from here on out. I'm back to watching all sessions on broadcast time (when I can). Again, brilliant video BMPH. Keep it up!
if you add up all possible potential point from mclaren drivers order this season, i'm pretty sure mclaren completely blew their chances of possible winning or at least grabbing more spotlight by now
It’s insane because lando should get priority since he’s the only one with a real shot to contest max for the championship. McLaren just need to lay this out instead of being rtards.
So what's the big deal when you have two good drivers in your team. This pairing is very normal in this sport and you will not get those drivers working together. So you guys can say what you want but this is a sport and you have 10 teams taking part.
McLaren fumbled here - they set in stone a 2 stop strategy from the start, and raced a 2 stop (taking the life out of the tires, setting fastest laps), when the winning strategy was a 1 stop. Given another 3 laps, Oscar would have made up the 2nd pit stop loss and possibly P1.
Calling out one side of the fandom for hypocrisy on the Hungary situation is hypocrisy from you 🤣🤣 Actually McLaren team are the biggest offenders; "The way to win a championship is with the team. You're going to need Oscar and you're going to need the team" Then in Monza "Papaya Rules " 🤣🤣 Then WTF was the gaslighting about?!
Could Piastri be motivated to beat Norris to prevent him from becoming World Champion? I mean next year it may be the McLaren's fighting for the Championship and if Norris is the current WC he may get preferential treatment with upgrades and the like, as he has this year.
This was a very well thought out and well presented video mate. As much as I don’t want it to be the case, I agree that if Lando is going to win, he does need the team to put him first. On the other hand, I’d honestly just rather see them race because I think it’s not fair to Oscar when he has just started to really hit his straps to be held back and deny him the chance to win more races. In the last seven or more races, Oscar has scored more points than anyone in Formula One including Max Verstappen or lando Norris, and that overtake on the weekend around the outside of Lando was just pure magic. That was probably the best overtake I’ve seen in Formula One in a very long time. I think what has happened, is that Oscar is internally pissed off at Lando for the way he acted like a spoiled child when asked to give back the lead in Hungary, which very much soured Oscars first Formula One win. Oscar is an absolute terminator when he gets mad and decides the gloves are off and I think that’s what’s happening now. I think Oscar was playing by the team rules previously, but now I think he realises that Lando is a bit of a spoiled brat and unless Oscar takes the win for himself and gives Lando no chance to fight back, he’s probably not going to get any more wins this season particularly. Anyway, thanks for a great video that was both informative and impartial at the same time. There’s not too many people being impartial at the moment on the subject. 😊
What riles me up a bit, is that McLaren purposedly told Norris to switch back with Piastri some races ago on the basis of team work but are not able to do the reverse now that Norris is closer to the WDC
Not as easy as Lewis made it look innit Lando. But seriousley Lando needs to act like a leader I know people want him to be a in the fight but Oscar beating him in 3 of thr last 4 races says it all.
It's not about being #2 anymore for Oscar. It should be about helping the team win both championships. Next year, everything resets, and they should be treated equally for as long as both have a reasonable chance of winning WDC.
@@BananaPelted Couldn’t possibly be because Piastri has been undercut time and again, could it? Or left out on a wet track on slicks and lost 20 fucking seconds because “oooh, no, double stack too scawwy”. Oscar has been top 4 six races in a row now - nobody else has done that, and the ONLY time he was “helped” by the team in relation to Norris was at Hungaroring - and that was just them finally undoing and making right for having effed him over for the four-thousandth time in two seasons.
@@TheFinalMeowntdown Dosen't mean Piastri would be ahead in points if it weren't for those 'unlucky' moments. Norris beats him a lot of times in qualifying
@@TheFinalMeowntdown Norris has beaten Piastri 13 times, Piastri beat him 3 times, one was handled to him, the other was a Norris DNF when he was fighting at the front. Piastri is nowhere near. Qualifying: 14 - 2 to Norris aswell. Norris performed better when the car was shit, and still better when the car is good.
Finally a take that isnt just extreme on one side or the other The way i see it: -McLaren aren't paying back lando for what hes done for them, and do not seem to value the achievement that most people in f1 care about -Maybe Lando is scarred from getting elbows out at austria and knows he cant risk another dnf, but he needs to be more aggressive so people fear him; he has the race pace and consistency and ability to drive under pressure while leading, but the racecraft is why he seems so easy to force when overtaking -What are McLaren doing by saying 'youre gonna need the team and oscar' and then this -What goes around comes around, Oscar might be in a situation where he needs help and Lando (hopefully) won't reciprocate for him because lando should realise he has to go for this championship on his own and becomes more ruthless Lando can easily pull out a Zandvoort level performance whenever he has the car and the team dont mess about, but he needs to prove he can win a close race where he has to go wheel to wheel with another car
Oscar's move was great and all, except when you take into account that had he NOT made that move (that was insanely risky, came within 3 inches of crashing them both out of the race, and only succeeded because Lando's reaction time prevented a catastrophe), the race results would have been 1. Norris 2. Piastri 3. LeClerc BUT INSTEAD we got: 1. LeClerc 2. Piastri 3. Norris So not only did making that move not gain him any championship points in the end, it f-cked over his teammate who LET HIM WIN in another race.. No more pApAyA ruLeS, Lando needs to take the championship into his own hands now. He's been screwed over by the team and by Oscar too many times.
I agree that the best drivers can compete hard against each other, but you don’t blindside your teammate on the first lap. If Norris had even thought Piastri was going to do something like that he would have defended and Piastri probably would have run off the track, or they probably would have crashed each other out on the first lap. If Piastri would have been on another team, it would have never happened and we wouldn’t have anything to talk about. It’s only a story because they are teammates and they are racing each other like they are not teammates.
I was a much better player in college mentally than i was in high school. The confidence comes with maturity. He'll grow im just afraid itll be too late.
As a 30-year fan of F1, I can't understand why there are so many people out there who want a drivers' champion who wasn't good enough to earn it on his own merit and needs help from his (faster) team mate. If Lando falls short because Piastri outperforms him and takes points off him, then Lando wasn't good enough to be a champion, simple as that.
Youre also correct. Lando needs to grow a pair. And sucks off the line. Finally stayed out front and got cooked by the his teamate with the best pass of the season. Wanna see Lando take it. But as a fan also just love to see a good race with great driving and strategy. Another place Mclaren always sucks! We will get there.
What is better for spectators than the team with the best car having a teammate war, while the others catch up and the reigning champion and leader struggles? This season is lit
Your analysis is convoluted because Oscar can also still win the Driver’s Championship as there are 238 remaining points in the 11 races. Yes, Lando has the best chance however Oscar has driven better in the previous six races. So why should there be team orders again?
Because in Lando case, it is only between Lando and Max. Oscar can win only if Max, Lando and Charles (he is third i suppose) doesnt score or ends every race on low points. So yeah, technicaly Oscar can win but it is in complete fantasy dimension. Lando can do it and has better chance.
Where are you getting 11 races from? According to my calendar, there are 8 races left. 13-15 September Azerbaijan 20-22 September Singapore 18-20 October USA 25-27 October Mexico 1-3 November Brazil 21-23 November Las Vegas 29-1 Nov/Dec Qatar 6-8 December Abu Dhabi. Where are the other 3 I'm missing please?
As for the teamorders, i think its 2 reasons. I think Mclaren are afraid of upsetting a driver or causing a bad dynamic in the team, and i think they believe Lando can do this without orders and i think that's what they're hoping for. 2nd reason is i honestly wouldnt be surprised if Webber who is Oscars manager has had a big say with teamorders given Webber has been a big victim of that in his career
they were on the radio to lando saying "you're free to race Oscar" I should think so when there's a championship on the line! Embarassing day to be a Mclaren fan
Once Mclaren started to win races i was hoping for Lando to snatch the title away from Max but seeing how the team is handling(if you can even call it that) itself makes indifferent at best and not wanting them to win at worst. Its fine to let your drivers fight for points if they are both going for the championship, but right now the one they should be backing is Lando, let them fight early in the season and if only one of them can win championship by when there are less than 10 races left, back that guy, whoever it is. Really disappointing, i dunno what they are thinking rn, are they hoping that Max and Lando don't score points in the last 8 races and Oscar wins all 8?
Agreed. Oscar isn't in it this year, Lando is. All of these commentators are apparently ignoring the standings like its irrelevant. Turn 4 is but one of many and Lando is #1 at mclaren this year. If Oscar and Lando were in the hunt then hell yea, let them fight.
@@nickporter574 Whose to say when the fight is over? A few DNFs for Max and Lando over the next few races, Oscar and/or Charles winning the next few.. Who knows?
It feels like everyone on the grid got caught off guard when Red Bull started seriously slowing down after Bahrain this year. But I think since Newey is no longer touching the car the era of Red Bull dominance is over. McLaren have to realize Red Bull has no shot at winning the constructors this year, so they are fighting Ferrari for this championship, and Ferrari looks hot under Vasseur. It's going to be tight and Abu Dhabi will be just like 2021.
I agree with most of what u said but the hungry argument is valid, not nessecarily because lando deserved the position but the way he was made to give up the position, multiple times on the radio he denied giving up the position but in the final laps the team basically villanised him on the radio
McLaren should just stop putting unnecessary team orders, cause they make more mistakes than good calls. They should prioritise Lando a bit more, cause we know that Oscar has lots of skill and potential. So it’s a win-win, given Oscar keeps his consistency
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It would be so hilarious if Verstappen won the WDC by 1 point.
Now that would just be simply lovely😂 please I hope this happens
Norris will never be able to come close to that gap
@@joelviju6364 Maybe it will since MAXIE's talent disappeared.
I hope he does and they will all pile onto Oscar but forget the 40 points Lando screwed up at Red Bull ring, Silverstone and other races.
@@joelviju6364he might but there's a small chance
Ferrari 2022 was a special case of trolling at the highest level and mclaren somehow outdoing that
😭😭
@@BMPHF1 we love mclaren trolling tho, got a sharl Monza win on my birthday😭❤️
@@isakibrahim8316happy birthday and also it was sainz’s birthday too if you didn’t already know that
@@spiyder yeah it know lool, mad coincidence 😅
What they are doing is Ferrari 2022 The Sequel: Electric Boogaloo rocketship edition 💀
I think Oscar is already preparing for next season. He’s making sure nobody will ever think he should be Norris’s puppet next year since he might actually have a shot for the title. It’s totally understandable and it’s what he should do.
Exactly. But Norris should stop listen to the team, too. He trusted the team and gave Oscar the 1st place in Hungary. He should just ignore that teamorder to be fair
@RationalQuestions A teamorder was the only reason Norris lead in Hungary. They massively screwed Oscar and favored Norris on that Pit Stop.
@@rocksmo3384 yes you are right. But it wasnt Norris fault. As a driver Norris should think about winning, like Oscar does all the time
If he wants that to be the case he should work on his pace. Hes consistently a couple tenths off Lando in Quali and race pace so......
@@carownervirus4438 people seem to forget very quickly that it’s his second season in F1 and the fact he’s even remotely close to Norris tells a bigger story
I saw a lot of people saying "Lando might lose the WDC because of Oscar" completely forgetting that a championship is fought over every single race, not a couple of them. Lando is not nearly consistent enough for the WDC and if he loses it's because of his multiple fumbles throughout the season, not one move in one race by Oscar
Yeah agreed. Oscar is not obliged to help him. And knowing Mark Webber, he definitely wouldn’t allow Oscar to be a number 2 unless it becomes mathematically impossible for Oscar to win the championship.
Lando is faster than Oscar in clean air, but Oscar defends and attacks much better. In the end, that overtake at Monza is the best thing that could happen to Lando, now he knows he is on his own. Now he can start winning like a grown man.
Definitely. No more Hungary moments. He's gotta fight Oscar tooth and nail now. Send a message. Lando has been there longer and is overall performing better this year. I dont think Oscar can catch Max unless Max starts DNF'ing consistently.
First he would need to be a grown man.
@@billbaggins1688 He accomplished more by the time he was 12-years-old than you'll ever accomplish in your entire life, and it's not even close.
Oscar attacks better because he has less to lose in crashes. It's actually that simple. Norris has to be careful because any dnf ruins his shot at the title. Oscar doesn't really have a chance at it so he's mostly focused on messing with Norris' head. The team should have put their foot down if they could quite awhile back, but I'm guessing Piastri has a contract that says they can't do that.
@@biggusy25it’s easier to do that when your family has shit loads of money to invest in ya, isn’t it?
Leclerc pulling a 2007 Kimi wdc win is more likely than Lando winning it.
Neither are ready to win a championship let's just remember Leclerc's crash in France. Verstappen had the best internship with hamilton in 2021 and no teammate who was consistent enough after Ricciardo. Both mercedes and redbull are recent championship wining teams which can't be said for neither ferrari nor mclaren.
So no i don't think that would be true ..
@@yasmine8164 i definitely agree with you there, Charles is still not ready. iMO he is a much better talent than Lando, and he has shown he can beat max one on one, Bahrain 22, and other isolated instances. Something lando is yet to show. You really arent ready until you are in that position i suppose. What i really meant though was, i see a more likely scenario Charles beats Lando in the standings this year.
Charles beating Lando for 2nd place is more likely than Lando winning the title as well.
Ferrari never had a car as good as McLaren had for several races this year and Charles is pretty close to Lando anyway. Out of all drivers without a title, Charles seems to be the most capable of becoming a champion in my opinion.
Lol leclerc crumbled under pressure when leading the race ONCE in his f1 career, ONCE.
He's been easily top 3 drivers on the grid over the past few years and other so-called champions have made the same mistakes as him, if there's one driver that's ready to win his first wdc title it's definitely leclerc @@yasmine8164
@@marco_1909charles will be ready when his car will be competitive enough to win all races from Bahrain to abu Dhabi, not only in the first or last part of the season...something that amongst the top drivers has only happened to him
Piastri being coached by Webber has instilled the idead of not being a no.2 driver, I bet
Edit:you mentioned it lol
If there is a second... is Norris... he's the second coming of Damon Hill. Amazing if nobody is close, but as soon as he actually has to compete with other cars, he MELTS DOWN
It's the right thing, regardless of wether that's true or not. But it's likely Webber has warned him indeed.
Stand your ground.
@@Fastbikkel Facts, I feel like when you're stuck in that second driver pos, noone will see past that. I mean, look at Carlos rn. He is a super solid driver, almost on the same level as Charles, but has been relegated as a no.2 driver, and will never outlive that
@@MoGumbo_ "almost on the same level as Charles"
Carlos is at least at the same level and in some cases way beyond him.
@@Fastbikkel You’re trolling right?
" simply lovely" is what Lando said when he won at Zandvoort as a dig to Max.
Max knew he didn't have the car to be competitive in Monza but I bet he thought " Simply lovely" when he saw the " papaya rules" up front.
Charles did him a solid.
max is living rent free in his head
@@obamna36 And his fans. Saw a guy crying that McLaren likes max more than lando😂 that's why they did this
Aio, I can’t believe ppl think Lando was having a “dig” at max when he said “simply lovely”. You can clearly understand it just a lil banter. You ppl are beyond miserable
@@TheBrass18 darling you clearly don't know the rules of engagement.
If you use a quote that is clearly a victory quote from your " friend" in front of his home crowd when you win, it is in fact a " dig". Payback for Austria I presume.
@@alicekoppenol-pitti6257payback from Austria. Lol
It was banter. You clearly taking too seriously.
It's Webber pulling the strings for Oscar.. It also doesn't help when Lando does not perform like a champion to deserve it.
Agree regarding Webber - he is absolutely having a say in all of this right now!
Go Mark! 😂
@liukin95 He knows what its like to play second fiddle. And this time with piastri it's worse as he in my opinion has had a better year
As a Leclerc fan it makes me happy that Redbull and Mclaren are suffering from the same exact things we were called babies over.
Redbull and their car development for a 2nd driver and now Mclaren with their nonexistent team orders.
The nonstop "Leclerc is overrated" rhetoric in 2022 and 2023 has brought me to this mindset.
I dunno where the “Leclerc is overrated” arguments came from tbh because he’s always been insanely good. Just hasn’t had the car yet, until now.
By whose standard I wonder. I had the pleasure of seeing both Max and Charles during their carting days and believe you me, they both lived up to the very high standard they had back then.
But you know what they say " the lie of today is the truth of tomorrow" . I bet all those people who called Charles overrated are praising him into the high heavens now.
@@BMPHF1charles was meme’d most of 2022/3 seasons for unforced errorss, folding with and without pressure, to the point where people wondered whether he was indeed Ferrari worthy
@@muntublackson4757 It goes beyond that too, his horrible pole to win conversion rate was also mocked by multiple fan bases without factoring if it was his fault or not.
I don't think anyone ever thought "Leclerc is overrated"
The real news is that Mclaren essentially lost that race for no reason. There was legitimately no reason for them to pit Piastri at the end. The gap to leclerc was 5 seconds and getting bigger when Norris pitted so they essentially pitted Piastri to cover his own team mate. They should have left Piastri out and reacted to Leclerc/Sainz if they decided to pit. They had winning hand but they showed it early and Ferrari took advantage. Even if Piastri's tires had fallen off a cliff and Leclerc had closed up the dirty air would have killed his tires too. and even if Norris had come through and overtaken them both mclaren still would've had a 1-2 finish. Someone please make it make sense.
This all happened because each team's cars had their own level of tyre degradation and considering going on a 1-pit stop for a team like mclaren that had a slightly worse tyre deg would have meant throwing away not only the win but also the race as they could this wasn't possible. If they had taken the risk they would have witnessed a similar situation to silverstone 2020 with Lewis
mclaren is starting to piss me off honestly. this doesn't feel like a "title fight". it's max holding on for dear life and mclaren actively trying to throw lando overboard.
Yeah this 😭
Damn this comment made me laugh! 😂
It was never a title fight - not with a 60+ points gap. Be realistic, Max still has one hand on the title. McLaren did nothing wrong in letting their drivers race, that's what drivers are meant to do. Team orders are worthless anyway. Their main mistake was underestimating Leclerc.
its mclaren letting their drivers race - trouble with mostr so called f1 fans these days is that they arnt really interested in racing, its just show business
@@mutleyengprobably no one would have a problem with “let them race” if that same logic was applied in Hungary.
In Hungary whoever was leading turn 1 lap 1 would win the race. Now all of a sudden it’s let them race.
Honestly I think leclerc deserves the championship this year if it’s based solely on merit. He’s won at both opportunities and has dragged that Ferrari to places it shouldn’t have been
Ferrari give this man a shot (for all the year not for a quarter)
Yeah sure, a driver with 2 wins and fewer points is definitely more deserving than a driver with SEVEN wins and more points. That's exactly how sport should work.
Put Leclerc in the same car as Max and he'd be lucky to finish the season within 100 points of the Dutch master.
@@motelghost477 so max decided to show up for half a season, cause he hasn’t won anything since Spain? I already know you’d blame the car, but Ferraris car has been worse than Red Bull except Monaco and Monza and leclerc won on those two opportunities.
I would never have imagined that another F1 team could fumble an open goal as much as McLaren are right now. Come on guys, get it together. This is your chance to beat Redbull . These opportunities are few and far between in F1.
Piastri has two jobs at McLaren - help the team win the Constructors title and help himself win the drivers title. It is not Piastri's job to help his team mate. A driver's only responsibility is to the team and to himself.
I think they can’t impose team orders because lando doesn’t outperform his teammate consistently enough
He outqualifies him most of the times, which is just one part of the weekend and could be the result of a tow or a favouring pit release, but the most important part is Sunday, and I agree, in the race he's not outperforming him consistently enough
@@kizer0161We have to remember Piastri might be better because he has less to lose if he messes up. Norris, at least this season is better than Piastri, but the pressure is getting to him.
Dude is like 40 points ahead in the championship, I'd argue that means he consistently outperforms him. If they hadn't imposed stupid team orders in Hungary, Lando would have 3 wins to Oscar's 0, not to mention all the times Lando was directly behind Max at the finish line while Oscar was nowhere near. In the entire championship, Lando has been miles clear of Oscar most of the time. We also have to consider that Lando has everything to lose, so he has little to do against an aggressive move by his teammate.
@@fedeeeeee If they hadn’t imposed stupid team orders everywhere else or put Oscar on pit strategies that not only disadvantaged him against Norris but also against the other drivers it’d be a lot less. He should’ve won Silverstone and Spa at least. As if McLaren’s pit crew who did a 1.8s stop in the oppressive heat of Qatar can’t do a frigging double stack pit stop instead of sending one driver around again on a wet Silverstone, losing 20 seconds and nearly crashing out several times. Give me a break. 💀
Points are king
I hate team orders. Let them race. If Norris can’t beat Piastri outright, he doesn’t deserve a title
he is beating piastri outright. look at the standings casual
Norris didn't beat Piastri in Monza. Look at the race only 4 corners in
@@vvRADOvv then what happened at Monza?
Piastri could've won Silverstone had the team pitted him at the right time, he didn't get the same upgrades as Lando in Miami...many times he lost only coz of luck. That's not outright beating your teammate.
Look at Max beating Checo... that's called outright beating(but since Piastri is better than Checo, it's difficult for Lando to do the same)
@@_chosen1_are you alleging that McLaren that prides itself in having two #1 cars gave a worse car to Piastri?
@@pramitpratimdas8198its literally facts they stated. They didn't have time so oscar only had half of the upgrades compared to lando in Miami
If anyone thinks Oscar should just let Lando by and not diggt him, youre being delusional or British. If Lando wants to win the championship, he has to win and not expect oscar to nit race.
"Lando, you're gonna need your teammates for the championship" that agreed well right.
Every race its Lando v 20. 18 other drivers, Oscar, and the McLaren team.
@@blasphemer_amon And himself
I'm not a lando fan but when they guilt tripped him from that point on lando should know he can't stay with this team they clearly lied
@@blasphemer_amon he has a fast car, so he just needs to beat his teammate and one other driver, not 18 other drivers right?
I'm not saying this, Lando himself had said this(about Hamilton) XD
Oscar should have at least given him that 2nd place since Lando gave him a race win.. Oscar would have been 2nd place at Monza ANYWAY if he just stayed behind Norris instead of dive bombing him and almost taking them both out of the race. The only thing that changed was flipping around what place Norris and LeClerc finished.. Oscar would have been 2nd place either way and cocked it up for his teammate..
This just shows how much inexperienced they are for competing at the top because it’s been a long time since they last won a championship. Hope they learn something from this and don’t repeat in the future. A good thing is constructors is in the bag.
Yeah hopefully everyone learns from this. Stella in managing the drivers. Lando in performing under pressure. Next year will be a stronger campaign should they start on the front-foot
They fumble two races already as far as I’m concerned, what a lost opportunity if the strategy was right. Poor Norris I knew what he felt if I’m in his shoes.
Who says the Constructors Title is in the bag..? Pleny of Grand Prix' have been lost on the last lap my friend. 😮
Where did I heard about this exact situation?
Oh right 2007
These lot can can fumble that constructors title, all it takes is for red bull to get their design right and Perez to finish above Mercedes and ferrari and its over for them
Mclaren have been helping Norris so many times already...how many times have they pitted Norris first where Piastri should have been brought in. Norris chokes too often, Piastri doesn't. You can't expect a great driver like Piastri to step aside.
What a joke. They are like a rookie team, and not one that has 12 WDCs and 8 constructors championships... Oscar is ruthless and must have a water-tight contract haha #Multi21. I love Landp but he needs to match or beat Oscar's ruthlessness, let alone someone like Lewis or Max.
Yeah it’s pretty frustrating. I want to see Lando do well but he keeps making small mistakes that add up. I have no idea how McLaren will take control over the situation since Oscar is getting better so quick
@@BMPHF1 Zak's responses to Nico's interrogation were so wishy-washy.
@@BMPHF1 I think Lando feels the pressure and takes responsibility because he's the senior driver.
He's being too soft with Oscar because he's still "the new guy", though Oscar doesn't give a shit because he's not the same type of person Lando is.
I think Lando needs to bolster himself mentally and take a note from Oscar: *_Be cutthroat, cold and vicious._*
Do what you want, but only if you can disguise it well enough and/or take the heat afterwards.
Oscar only took that position because he knew that Lando wouldn't expect it and that not only would he not have any more way to counter it, but he wouldn't race him back hard enough because it would most likely result in a crash.
😢 They're doing a pretty good Imitation of Ferrari... 😂
No secret what Andrea Stella brought over to the new operation
McLaren going through their Ferrari phase 💀
Spygate again 💀
not as bad as ferrari... yet
@@sedwars3616 Give them time. They'll catch up quickly..
Oscar did the right move. The only mistake here is that Lando fucked his exit by trying to fight back. Obviously it caught him by surprise but as a racing driver you need to react properly and if fighting makes you lose 2 positions instead of one, maybe consider backing off and fighting back another time especially when there is still the whole race ahead of you. It's not like it was the last lap. Lando was just caught slacking.
Oscar can cancel his contract and go to Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes if they issue a team order against Oscar
Webber warned Zac to stop the team orders being issued.
Oscar suffered nonsense at Melb, Miami, British GP and many others
Only team order he didn't want to stop was the one given in Hungary 😂
Redbull, Ferrari and Mercedes have significantly better drivers.
They don’t need a guy getting whitewashed 13-3 in qualifying to Lando and can’t even beat Leclerc with the fastest car.
@Zeverinsen Oscar lost first place in Hungary only because of a teamorder.
Ferrari, Red Bull and Mercedes have their seats taken. Piastri has nowhere else to go.
Facts man, Piastri ain’t settling for a #2 and he could be fighting for the championship if it wasn’t for McLaren screwing him over so many times. Long term McLaren are realizing he’s gonna be their actual #1
I get that they may see more potential in Piastri, but long term performance is not a guarantee. In sport, you have to seize opportunities when they present themselves and McLaren are wasting an opportunity to win both championships. If they can't get the drivers to work together, they might not even win the Constructors. I've been a McLaren fan since 2008 and it causes me physical pain to watch them refuse to recognise that they have a chance to get a championship double. I was slightly disappointed when Lando said he didn't want to talk about the drivers championship after qualifying. that attitude is costing him. He has to take the championship seriously and push the team to support him in the battle. If he can't do this, then he doesn't deserve to win. What happened in Hungary, and what Happened yesterday are a result of Lando not being assertive enough with his championship hopes. I'm starting to wonder if he even thinks he can win the championship at this point.
People don’t understand that WDC is individual. The WCC is the most important for the teams. Oscar gains nothing from helping Lando, on the contrary he hurts his own career. The will win the WCC anyway. Have you forgot how much team orders suck? Valtteri it’s James…
Whilst the WCC is important even Horner said himself when Max won his first WDC “was he annoyed they didn’t get WCC”
He said
No- at the end of the day it’s a redbull driver picking up the WDC that’s what the people care about more
I'm a McLaren fan and a big supporter of Lando, but I agree with most of what was said in this video. If Lando doesn't win the championship this year, then I think whilst he'll be upset, he can go into the winter break with huge lessons to take away from this season. He can't just rely on his team to engineer things for him, he's got to toughen up and drive like he WANTS it! If he drove more aggressively, he'd have more wins under his belt by now.
The Constructors Championship is the one that matters and McLaren is on course to win it. Moreover, no one here has seen Oscar Piastri's contract. Zak Brown said it before the race in Monza. Mclaren has 2 no. 1 drivers. Let's not get carried away by the British Bias in Formula 1.
I just want max to win one more time with that tractor, that would be epic ❤
Why is everyone acting like OP is the best driver on the grid. Ffs, he's young and talented for sure but he's not the second coming of Senna or Schumacher. Youd think OP was ahead of LN in points reading these comments. I want to see a title fight. Max is probably laughing his ass off and is the only one really benefiting here.
If Oscar wasn't getting ass fucked by McLaren strategy constantly he probably would be at the very least 30 points closer to Norris
oscar is in fact a prodigy, he won every category prior to f1 and he’s performing really well in f1, this being his second season. He has the potential to be great and I think he will be
Honestly, the comparison to 2007 mclaren is not that bad.
Keep in mind, Piastri *is* the best rookie we've had since Hamilton, and while certainly not hamilton level, this mclaren is probably the closest we'll see to that mclaren for a long time.
Solid points though.
From piastri point. Of view;
Lando being ahead Doesnt make piastri a number 2 ; defence minister driver,
Nothing is owed..
Only if you have the copy of piastri contract then declare lando the lead driver
Agree 💯
As a McLaren fan this was exactly what I felt. In the heat of the post race disappointment, I was furious that Oscar made that dangerous move instead of a 1-2. Watched Palmer's analysis later. Clear that Lando didn't go as hard and took it easy, left the door open. Norris should stop being the nice soft guy and embrace that villain era Vettel and Max went through. He should be ruthless on track like Max has been not minding the social media nonsense. People have horrible takes because internet is cheap and accessible. Oscar isn't gonna stand with his hands folded.
What McLaren did was also shit though. You never know when Ferrari will gain race pace and overtake McLaren in the WCC standings. Monza brought them back in the fight. It's an amazing season for the constructors.
0:54 LMAO😂 thats exactly what i thought when i saw Oscar overtake Landough on the first lap, Pastry is ICY!!
Ice cold dumb as hell lol.. Almost took them both out of the race if Lando didn't have Jedi instincts, and ultimately all he did was hand Lando's P1 finish to LeClerc. He would have finished 2nd either way, whether he dive bombed Lando or not..
@@biggusy25you sound bitter! That was a helluva move regardless of how you look at it, oscar is the superior driver
McLaren is only responsible for winning constructors, Lando has bottled his WDC chances all by himself 🤷
All of Lando's weaknesses have been unraveled this year. Last year, he's screwing up his quali particularly in Qatar and Abu Dhabi. This year, literally all of his mistakes have become so habitual that people are literally getting richer by betting that he's gonna lose again in lap 1.
worst part about all this is the sky sports glaze for lando 😭
Leclerc is closer to Lando than Lando is to Max in the championship
Imo the team nor Lando doesn't deserve to win the WDC this season. The amount of mistakes regarding strategy or driver error is something they have to reflect on. I hope next season it's better for them but Piastri continuously improving and potentially being better than Lando is a problem
These mistakes all add up. It’ll feel weird if they do win especially after all the fumbles they’ve had. But, again a lot can happen in 8 races. They could get their act together in that time.
There was no clear dominant car in 07. I’m sorry but this is a far stretch from you. Implying that kimi won the title because of a superior car througout the season is quite off from the reality. In fact, it was the first car Kimi had that could fight for a title.
Cars were close that year and drivers were close and the end result it was a verry narrow win.
All three drivers were top.
We’ll never know which was the best team because there was no single best team. Both team had their strenghts on different circuits.
This is all Seb's fault for schooling Webber. Webber has been advising Oscar about this and that is why he is behaving like this.
Who would’ve thought it all started with Seb Vettel 😳
Using your logic it's Seb's parent's fault and so on and so on. Dosen't make sense
Sick of the lando fanboys having a cry… if lando wants to be world champion than he needs to try and actually lead the first lap for once in his career and if he can’t then he doesn’t deserve to be the WC
The gap between Lando and Oscar is smaller than the gap between Lando and max why wouldn’t Oscar try to take that p2 from Lando ? Is he his pet dog or something ? Or maybe Lando should stop driving like shit if he really thinks he can fight for the title
People who understand Formula 1 and it's history understand appreciate team discipline. Look up 2007 season when Kimi Raikonen won WDC with Ferrari by 1 point while Hamilton and Alonso were in McLaren civil war.
I don't care for Lando Norris but there is no argument that if McLaren care to win both championships they have to carry him as a team, something Schumacher got from Ferrari in his days to the point of taking parts from his teammate's car and excluding teammates from meetings.
Fans hate it and naive simpletons think it's completely unnecessary, but ruthless team mentality brings the maximum dominance allowed by resources.
If you're rooting for Verstappen, keep saying "McLaren should have two No1 drivers and Norris doesn't deserve to be a champion"; because that helps Max.
Being a Ferrari fan, I'm happy to see others have a piece of the famous cake
Now they know how we feel in that 2022 season
How are you going to win races if you can’t keep P1 on the first lap. Lando just doesn’t have the killer instinct. I don’t blame Oscar because anyone else in P2 would have capitalized. Lando just doesn’t have the killer instinct. He’s a talented driver but is too much of a nice guy to stamp his authority on his teammates and rivals.
Team order for winning constructor championship is logical.
Driver championship is individual achievement. Having team order to jeopardize one drvier to favor another driver to win a driver championship is outright unfair. Both drivers should allow to race for themselves if they are not harming the Constructor championship.
In this race, even if Lando keep his pole in 1st lap, they would still be wiped out by Ferrari’s one-stop strategy. So just let them race as long as they leave each other some space!
If I was Lando, I straight up tell the team, “I let a win go in Hungary, and let go of championship points when I am Max’s closest rival, because you screwed up, and now, you are allowing a situation where we are compromising the overall result of the team, by letting the two cars fight unnecessarily. Now if, you don’t control the situation, and I am in a compromising position with my team mate, I am not backing down, and if we crash, it will be on you.
you take the first few corners in tandem and gap the rest of the pack. Like doctors. Not trip over eachother, tow a rival in drs range for several laps, get gapped and bottle the win. Veterans win very boring races. What's the point of having 2 cars with the same livery then? Pictures?
Who’s here after they just won it?
I don't get it. Most people (outside of the UK at least) would have thought it was a good weekend for McLaren. They lost 3 points to Ferrari sure, but gained massively on RB and Mercedes. So why are people down on them and suggesting that they screwed up? I'll tell you why, it is largely the British press who somehow seem to conflate McLaren's success with Lando's chances in the WDC. Note to the British press: McLaren is NOT the same thing as Norris. Go back 6 years and all of Zac Brown's talk and strategy was around McLaren's position in the Constructor's, not about the Driver's Championship. Now that he can smell success in terms of his goals (the Constructor's) I doubt he gives a shit about Lando and the WDC. As long a McLaren is outscoring it's rivals an on track to win the Constructor's, who cares if it's Lando or Oscar scoring the points? What also seems to get missed is that Oscar is a far better chance of taking 3rd than Lando is of winning. Back the shorter odds I say.
You are obviously kidding tho
@@RudolfJvVuuren Not at all. McLaren takes a chunk of points out of their Constructor's rival, both cars finish and both are on the podium. How is that a disaster? Lots of talk that Piastri's move allowed LeClerc through. It did, but that wasn't what won Ferrari the race, remembering that McLaren used the undercut to get Piastri back into 2nd anyhow. What won Ferrari the race was that LeClerc executed a one stop very well. McLaren went with a two stop, executed it well, but couldn't get there in the end. It was only a 'bad' strategy in hindsight. Solid weekend for McLaren I say.
Lando has to decide if he wants to be nice or to be a champion. He could have forced Oscar off the track at that chicane but he chose p3 instead.
yeah fair, im a very very old mclaren fan though
i would argue lando's biggest rivals is his race starts, also mistakes sneak into his races lately
Thats why its dangerous to have 2 number 1 caliber drivers on the same team.
Yes, but that’s why the will win the constructors championship.
As if that's a new thing for McLaren. Happened multiple times in the past, most promintently Senna-Prost and Hamilton-Alonso.
@@Checkyoursix77 McLaren would win if was Sainz and Norris too... Checo is just bad at ths point.
@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 And they lost to ferrari with Alonso/Hamilton.
Prost-Senna is another thing, that McLaren-Honda was way to ahead of the others, just like Hamilton/Rosberg. When you have the dominant car by a good margin than its ok to have 2 number 1 drivers.
Norris actually has a chance to catch Max. Oscar does not. You should 100% push Norris. Let them compete for driver 1 next year, but right now Oscar has no shot, and Norris does. Pull your heads out of your asses.
Dude he is 60 points behind max. It is almost mathematically impossible for him to actually win
See, the problem is Lando. I like Lando and everything, but he's expecting things to be handed to him. He lives in a world where he thinks being nice, not having your elbows out, and letting the championship come to you works when fighting for a wdc. He needs to be intent about it. Steer the garage towards your side like Michael, Fernando, Lewis, or Max. The team is not focused on his side of the garage because he doesn't demand it. If he can be more aggressive, and more intent towards fighting for the wdc, the team will back him up. Zach is looking for a driver he can go all in with. Right now he wants a 2-horse race because he knows Lando doesn't quite have that dog in him. Oscar does, but his points are not as high as Lando's. So he has his hands tied. He doesn't want to baby Lando to a wdc. He wants to see Lando go out and grab it - which he's not doing.
11:33 "he does not want to sit in dirty air of his teammate whole race" okay mate but why then Oscar doesn't have points anywhere near as Lando so maybe he can strike the wdc, Lando did a better job this year and has a greater chance of getting Max, but no poor Oscar he should not get team orders he should be able to race
Junior team director.
They could have finished 1 and 2 if the director would have said this one is for Lando. Just like Barrichello did for Michael and to protect his lead. Team work. Piastry is in his puberty still and want's to be king. I hope Zak will come around.
It’s funny when the dude who is in “puberty” has won more races, more championships and taken more poles in his career than the dude who is supposed to be number one.
Stop expecting Oscar to just kneel over and submit, Lewis would, Max would, Schumacher wouldn’t. So why should Oscar. Take your feelings and emotions out of it and just think lol
@@MaCcAM40a3because Oscar cost the team with that stupid lunge, would’ve been an easy 1-2, instead they barely scrapped a 2-3
not outright disagreeing with you but that puberty thing is so stupid, he's 23, not even 2 years younger than Lando
@@MaCcAM40a3i really like Oscar and he is a generational talent, but you're acting like Oscar is leagues ahead of Lando. You can't really compare junior category success anyway, since the quality of drivers vary so much between seasons. Lando had much better competition in f2 with George Russell and Alex Albon, meanwhile Piastri's closest competition was Robert Shwartzman and Zhou Guanyu
and no, you don't need to be an asshole on track to win championships. Btw, the great Sir Lewis Hamilton thought Lando did the right thing by letting Piastri past
Schumacher didn't win 7 WDC because he was selfish, in fact that side of his personality cost him one championship, and it probably should've cost him another one as well
he won so much because he worked hard with his team and surrounded himself with good, talented people who wanted to see him succeed, and you don't do that by being selfish
Oscar has pretty much no chance of securing the title for himself. It's a lot smarter to help Lando this season, then if he outperforms him next season, have Lando and the Team prioritise him
Funniest comment yet...
In what reality is Norris, Schumacher?
Youre correct. But as a team mindset us Mclaren fans waiting since Senna really want them to work together. But Oscars a great driver. But he is still green. Lando shouldnt have left the door open. But if he would have faught for it theyd have both been out. Lando had Max take him out. He knows its better to be safe and get points than be out of the race completely. Either way. We have the best two drivers! And you cant be mad at Oscar for being so damn good. And thats great. But still really wat to see Lando get the Drivers. Pretty sure we getting the Constuctors though. Which is amazing!
The only thing about all these debates about lando not wanting it enough, i dont think him giving nice pr answers in the interviews are not him not wanting it enough. You can tell by how pissed he is every time he has come in second this year that he does really want it and wants to win, so i dont think its an issue about not wanting it enough
Lando knows now the team won't help him win the wdc so I'm excited to see him race more aggressively everyone on the grid even his teammate
Oscar is the number 1 driver in McLaren. Lando just happened to have more points which doesn't mean anything to them.
Oscar is like Webber. He thinks he’s number 1 yet still gets dominated by his teammate most weekends.
@@paperplane-db8qf we saw the domination on turn 4
....OSCAR IS TRYING TO PULL OFF WHAT PIRONI DID.......
.........EVERYONE MUST STAND UP FOR LLANDO
@@paperplane-db8qfSaying he’s dominating Oscar is a looong shot from reality when Norris beat Oscar just in 10 races out of 16. If he was indeed dominating Oscar, he should’ve beat him in at least 14 of these occasions
I made it 15:03 through :P Loved it. Hard to not be biased as an Australian, but I am loving the development of McLaren. 4 teams capable of wins is as good to me as 2021 Max vs Lewis. McLaren won't have the fastest car forever, and it's Max's title to lose. Truly blockbuster stuff from here on out. I'm back to watching all sessions on broadcast time (when I can). Again, brilliant video BMPH. Keep it up!
Lando also needs to practice his starts, especially when he is on pole.😮
if you add up all possible potential point from mclaren drivers order this season, i'm pretty sure mclaren completely blew their chances of possible winning or at least grabbing more spotlight by now
It’s insane because lando should get priority since he’s the only one with a real shot to contest max for the championship. McLaren just need to lay this out instead of being rtards.
Also the lack of clear communication from the team creates a weird divide between Oscar and lando.
So what's the big deal when you have two good drivers in your team.
This pairing is very normal in this sport and you will not get those drivers working together.
So you guys can say what you want but this is a sport and you have 10 teams taking part.
McLaren fumbled here - they set in stone a 2 stop strategy from the start, and raced a 2 stop (taking the life out of the tires, setting fastest laps), when the winning strategy was a 1 stop. Given another 3 laps, Oscar would have made up the 2nd pit stop loss and possibly P1.
Racing fans when drivers race each other :O
Calling out one side of the fandom for hypocrisy on the Hungary situation is hypocrisy from you 🤣🤣
Actually McLaren team are the biggest offenders;
"The way to win a championship is with the team. You're going to need Oscar and you're going to need the team"
Then in Monza "Papaya Rules " 🤣🤣
Then WTF was the gaslighting about?!
If he can't beat Oscar then he doesn't deserve the WDC
Could Piastri be motivated to beat Norris to prevent him from becoming World Champion? I mean next year it may be the McLaren's fighting for the Championship and if Norris is the current WC he may get preferential treatment with upgrades and the like, as he has this year.
This was a very well thought out and well presented video mate. As much as I don’t want it to be the case, I agree that if Lando is going to win, he does need the team to put him first. On the other hand, I’d honestly just rather see them race because I think it’s not fair to Oscar when he has just started to really hit his straps to be held back and deny him the chance to win more races.
In the last seven or more races, Oscar has scored more points than anyone in Formula One including Max Verstappen or lando Norris, and that overtake on the weekend around the outside of Lando was just pure magic. That was probably the best overtake I’ve seen in Formula One in a very long time.
I think what has happened, is that Oscar is internally pissed off at Lando for the way he acted like a spoiled child when asked to give back the lead in Hungary, which very much soured Oscars first Formula One win. Oscar is an absolute terminator when he gets mad and decides the gloves are off and I think that’s what’s happening now. I think Oscar was playing by the team rules previously, but now I think he realises that Lando is a bit of a spoiled brat and unless Oscar takes the win for himself and gives Lando no chance to fight back, he’s probably not going to get any more wins this season particularly.
Anyway, thanks for a great video that was both informative and impartial at the same time. There’s not too many people being impartial at the moment on the subject. 😊
What riles me up a bit, is that McLaren purposedly told Norris to switch back with Piastri some races ago on the basis of team work but are not able to do the reverse now that Norris is closer to the WDC
Not as easy as Lewis made it look innit Lando. But seriousley Lando needs to act like a leader I know people want him to be a in the fight but Oscar beating him in 3 of thr last 4 races says it all.
Oscar is a serious driver tho. Lando needs to get back on top, but it’s not gonna be a walk in the park. He’ll have to get more aggressive.
Lando needs to improve his starts. I lost count of how often he could not convert a pole into a win.
It's not about being #2 anymore for Oscar. It should be about helping the team win both championships.
Next year, everything resets, and they should be treated equally for as long as both have a reasonable chance of winning WDC.
Norris is not the #1 driver... He is not a WDC... Norris a McLaren driver with a teammate who can beat him without team interference.
Norris has more points??
@@BananaPelted Couldn’t possibly be because Piastri has been undercut time and again, could it? Or left out on a wet track on slicks and lost 20 fucking seconds because “oooh, no, double stack too scawwy”. Oscar has been top 4 six races in a row now - nobody else has done that, and the ONLY time he was “helped” by the team in relation to Norris was at Hungaroring - and that was just them finally undoing and making right for having effed him over for the four-thousandth time in two seasons.
@@TheFinalMeowntdown Dosen't mean Piastri would be ahead in points if it weren't for those 'unlucky' moments. Norris beats him a lot of times in qualifying
@@BananaPelted Qualifying only matters if you can get off the line before Zhou Guanyu and the ghost of Nicholas Latifi. 😜
@@TheFinalMeowntdown
Norris has beaten Piastri 13 times, Piastri beat him 3 times, one was handled to him, the other was a Norris DNF when he was fighting at the front.
Piastri is nowhere near.
Qualifying: 14 - 2 to Norris aswell.
Norris performed better when the car was shit, and still better when the car is good.
Finally a take that isnt just extreme on one side or the other
The way i see it:
-McLaren aren't paying back lando for what hes done for them, and do not seem to value the achievement that most people in f1 care about
-Maybe Lando is scarred from getting elbows out at austria and knows he cant risk another dnf, but he needs to be more aggressive so people fear him; he has the race pace and consistency and ability to drive under pressure while leading, but the racecraft is why he seems so easy to force when overtaking
-What are McLaren doing by saying 'youre gonna need the team and oscar' and then this
-What goes around comes around, Oscar might be in a situation where he needs help and Lando (hopefully) won't reciprocate for him because lando should realise he has to go for this championship on his own and becomes more ruthless
Lando can easily pull out a Zandvoort level performance whenever he has the car and the team dont mess about, but he needs to prove he can win a close race where he has to go wheel to wheel with another car
If OP has more point than LN i will support him like i support LN now
Oscar's move was great and all, except when you take into account that had he NOT made that move (that was insanely risky, came within 3 inches of crashing them both out of the race, and only succeeded because Lando's reaction time prevented a catastrophe), the race results would have been
1. Norris
2. Piastri
3. LeClerc
BUT INSTEAD we got:
1. LeClerc
2. Piastri
3. Norris
So not only did making that move not gain him any championship points in the end, it f-cked over his teammate who LET HIM WIN in another race.. No more pApAyA ruLeS, Lando needs to take the championship into his own hands now. He's been screwed over by the team and by Oscar too many times.
I agree that the best drivers can compete hard against each other, but you don’t blindside your teammate on the first lap. If Norris had even thought Piastri was going to do something like that he would have defended and Piastri probably would have run off the track, or they probably would have crashed each other out on the first lap. If Piastri would have been on another team, it would have never happened and we wouldn’t have anything to talk about. It’s only a story because they are teammates and they are racing each other like they are not teammates.
McLaren is out doing Ferrari 2022 😭😭😭 as a Ferrari fan now you know how we feel
I was a much better player in college mentally than i was in high school. The confidence comes with maturity. He'll grow im just afraid itll be too late.
As a 30-year fan of F1, I can't understand why there are so many people out there who want a drivers' champion who wasn't good enough to earn it on his own merit and needs help from his (faster) team mate. If Lando falls short because Piastri outperforms him and takes points off him, then Lando wasn't good enough to be a champion, simple as that.
Youre also correct. Lando needs to grow a pair. And sucks off the line. Finally stayed out front and got cooked by the his teamate with the best pass of the season. Wanna see Lando take it. But as a fan also just love to see a good race with great driving and strategy. Another place Mclaren always sucks! We will get there.
What is better for spectators than the team with the best car having a teammate war, while the others catch up and the reigning champion and leader struggles? This season is lit
5:53 I'm sure he now regrets saying this XD
As a Lando fan, both of your perspectives are spot on. Lando needs to get the elbows out and fight.
Your analysis is convoluted because Oscar can also still win the Driver’s Championship as there are 238 remaining points in the 11 races. Yes, Lando has the best chance however Oscar has driven better in the previous six races. So why should there be team orders again?
Because in Lando case, it is only between Lando and Max. Oscar can win only if Max, Lando and Charles (he is third i suppose) doesnt score or ends every race on low points. So yeah, technicaly Oscar can win but it is in complete fantasy dimension. Lando can do it and has better chance.
it's almost impossible for oscar to do that even though he is a good driver
Where are you getting 11 races from? According to my calendar, there are 8 races left.
13-15 September Azerbaijan
20-22 September Singapore
18-20 October USA
25-27 October Mexico
1-3 November Brazil
21-23 November Las Vegas
29-1 Nov/Dec Qatar
6-8 December Abu Dhabi.
Where are the other 3 I'm missing please?
@@Pull_a_Bharvi think he counted sprints its in cota,brazil,qatar
@@karyote1929 fair point.
As for the teamorders, i think its 2 reasons. I think Mclaren are afraid of upsetting a driver or causing a bad dynamic in the team, and i think they believe Lando can do this without orders and i think that's what they're hoping for. 2nd reason is i honestly wouldnt be surprised if Webber who is Oscars manager has had a big say with teamorders given Webber has been a big victim of that in his career
they were on the radio to lando saying "you're free to race Oscar" I should think so when there's a championship on the line! Embarassing day to be a Mclaren fan
You were very fair with your analysis
Once Mclaren started to win races i was hoping for Lando to snatch the title away from Max but seeing how the team is handling(if you can even call it that) itself makes indifferent at best and not wanting them to win at worst. Its fine to let your drivers fight for points if they are both going for the championship, but right now the one they should be backing is Lando, let them fight early in the season and if only one of them can win championship by when there are less than 10 races left, back that guy, whoever it is.
Really disappointing, i dunno what they are thinking rn, are they hoping that Max and Lando don't score points in the last 8 races and Oscar wins all 8?
Agreed. Oscar isn't in it this year, Lando is. All of these commentators are apparently ignoring the standings like its irrelevant. Turn 4 is but one of many and Lando is #1 at mclaren this year. If Oscar and Lando were in the hunt then hell yea, let them fight.
@@nickporter574 Whose to say when the fight is over? A few DNFs for Max and Lando over the next few races, Oscar and/or Charles winning the next few.. Who knows?
It feels like everyone on the grid got caught off guard when Red Bull started seriously slowing down after Bahrain this year. But I think since Newey is no longer touching the car the era of Red Bull dominance is over. McLaren have to realize Red Bull has no shot at winning the constructors this year, so they are fighting Ferrari for this championship, and Ferrari looks hot under Vasseur. It's going to be tight and Abu Dhabi will be just like 2021.
If Lando didn't catch up to max, His next opponent will be Oscar next season
It's not about Lando. He's clearly not fast enough. Thus he didn't finish P1. Simple
I agree with most of what u said but the hungry argument is valid, not nessecarily because lando deserved the position but the way he was made to give up the position, multiple times on the radio he denied giving up the position but in the final laps the team basically villanised him on the radio
McLaren should just stop putting unnecessary team orders, cause they make more mistakes than good calls. They should prioritise Lando a bit more, cause we know that Oscar has lots of skill and potential. So it’s a win-win, given Oscar keeps his consistency