The Savile Row Drape Cut - Part 1

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • Savile Row tailor,Tom Mahon talks about the different styles of classic Savile Row tailoring. Including the Anderson & Sheppard, English drape cut. Examining coats that he has cut over his 30+ year career and how tailoring house styles differ.

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  • @darlenevm
    @darlenevm 3 года назад +49

    Stewart has stayed fit to keep wearing the same suits after 25+ years. Well done, Stewart!
    Tom’s skills are amazing. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @BriarLeaf00
    @BriarLeaf00 3 года назад +20

    While not a Saville Row suit maker, my grandfather owned a textile factory and was also the head of design for the company. I used to love looking through his old design books and the different styles of dresses and suits and uniforms he would draw up. Being a genuine bespoke tailor is kind of a special dream of mine.

    • @daveg9000
      @daveg9000 6 месяцев назад

      Dream your dream.

  • @garthbuck4274
    @garthbuck4274 10 месяцев назад +3

    What a client - tailor relationship. 30 odd years. Brilliant

  • @SplurgeFrugal
    @SplurgeFrugal 3 года назад +5

    Mr. Palmer said it best: He gets just as much pleasure today from wearing a coat cut nearly 30 years ago. I get the same pleasure from seeing these exceptional well-aged garments. This is a masterclass in exceptional tailoring that stands the test of time.

  • @alecmolloy2985
    @alecmolloy2985 3 года назад +17

    Thanks for this. By far the best explanation of drape that I've come across. The explanation of how drape impacts the cleaness of the cut is superbly explained for an interested lay person.

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  3 года назад +3

      Thank you! Just the tip of the iceberg but delighted it's given a little clarity.

  • @MakingaStink
    @MakingaStink 3 года назад +10

    Absolutely fantastic. Long live the Drape Cut! -Chris

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 2 года назад +5

    *OH MY GOD* this is so interesting.
    3 years ago I started making historical suits 1900 to 1930 and my fave book is J P Thornton's sectional drafting manual. His sleaves and backs are JUST like this and the lower part of the arm pattern is just a straight line - there is nearly 3" of excess to shove into that armhole. It looks just like this i.e. NOT GOOD but OMG is it comfortable - and its a 50/50 arm seam with a banana shaped sleave just like that...

  • @greghart6310
    @greghart6310 3 года назад +11

    Refreshing to know that common sense and practicality still hold sway in some quarters. The 'fashion' suits that most are pushing with the Pitti Oumo, too-small too-tight 'fit' are a travesty. Guys look like they are still wearing their confirmation suit that was made for them in their teens!

  • @richarddemeza7195
    @richarddemeza7195 3 года назад +4

    I agree with both statements from Stewart and Tom. All of those coats where beautifully Tailored. I believe when you capture durability and comfort that one can’t ask for more. It’s a pleasure to see such amazing work. Thank you for bringing it to us.

  • @sisirkattempudi7155
    @sisirkattempudi7155 3 года назад +4

    The suit looks immaculate. One day I'd like to own a Savile Row suit.

  • @rexine1990
    @rexine1990 2 года назад +1

    Wow! Greetings from China. I've never seen such in-depth video explainning the beauty and magic of the drape cut. It is such shame that suit lovers nowadays would ask their tailors to make suit as clean as possible, looks good outside but results in lack of arm movements and comfort. I bought a cesare attolini suit few years back, and it is so comfortable! I think the magic behind is what you said in the video, a small armohole and excessive fabrics in the big sleeve!

  • @jasonteh8527
    @jasonteh8527 3 года назад +3

    I thoroughly enjoyed this and found your comments on comfort vs cleanliness/looking good particularly interesting. I've been lucky enough to commission a modest number of bespoke sports coats over time and have pretty much come to a similar conclusion - there is a compromise between achieving a clean/sharp look and how comfortable the coat will be to wear. A bespoke coat is never going to be as comfortable as a wool cardigan but a wool cardigan will also never give you the (hopefully) beautifully sculpted 3 dimensional appearance a bespoke coat will.
    I've been following your blog on and off for over ten years now and have always enjoyed your articles and anecdotes. I look for forward to more content!

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  3 года назад +1

      Thank you Jason. What a privilege bespoke is! Have a lovely Christmas, Best, Tom.

  • @jeffhreid
    @jeffhreid Год назад +1

    I’m enthralled with that cut! It addresses the exact issues I’ve had with jackets and likewise explains why some jackets just fit right for me. Splendid, just first rate information. When I’m in London this September I will definitely stop in to discuss a possible jacket or suit.

  • @n8sfolly
    @n8sfolly 3 года назад +2

    There are a lot of point form videos on how a jacket should fit, but this puts them all to shame. Thank you so much for making this available to those of us who may never have a bespoke jacket made, but who are curious to learn more about the artistry and practicality of it all.

  • @khimbalee5087
    @khimbalee5087 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your generous, informative videos. Thanks, Stewart, for modeling.

  • @thedustykeratometer8570
    @thedustykeratometer8570 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great information. Thank you for putting this out. “Form versus function”-need a balance.

  • @daniell2217
    @daniell2217 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for making this video. I’ve had a couple bespoke suits made but am still very new to this world. During the fittings, I must have heard the word “drape” 15 times. Was always too embarrassed to ask what ‘drape’ meant. Now I have a much better idea.

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  4 месяца назад

      We're glad that our video helped translate a little of the tailoring lingo. Do speak up when you next go to your tailor - we're pretty sure that they'll be happy to explain all the unknowns to you. If you find yourself still struggling do reach out to our team (hello@redmayne1860.com) and we'll be happy to help - Who knows you may even inspire our next RUclips video!

  • @mrpeel3239
    @mrpeel3239 2 года назад

    Love the lapel "belly" on Tom's DB blazer. Great point about enjoying the same garments, then and now.

  • @lifeexperiences5006
    @lifeexperiences5006 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love it. It’s the right way to make a coat

  • @philiplewis7252
    @philiplewis7252 Год назад

    Great video. Lovely Sports coat,very stylish. I particularly like the over- stitching at the top of the rear vents!

  • @DavidS-iy8bb
    @DavidS-iy8bb Год назад

    These coats are perfect. They have a presence but don't shout in the face. Soft comfortable fit makes it clear that Stewart is the centre of attention and not the garments. All the trade offs are in the right balance.

  • @Justin-zw1hx
    @Justin-zw1hx 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so so much!!!! This is exactly what I want to know about drape cut!

  • @GiselleGauthier
    @GiselleGauthier Год назад +1

    I'm only a MTM specialist but I always tell my younger customers that they need that drape in the back to actually move, raise a toast, give a high five, etc. They mistakenly think a close-fitting suit should be shrink wrapped to their back. Even a close fitting suit needs ease in the right places to look and FEEL good. I also almost always raise the armholes on the pattern base and my customers have only complained once or twice, but I think only then because they're not used to feeling the armhole.

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  Год назад

      Smart work and thank you for watching. Best, Tom.

  • @adrielrowley
    @adrielrowley 3 года назад +2

    Finally a thorough explanation of the drape cut, well done sirs.
    Myself don't just like the drape cut, I love it. Now even more understanding how benefits the range of movement, as myself really bothered by coats which feel more for a insanity hospital then for a restaurant. Now learning the craft and my shape, have wondered if this is due to larger than average biceps and a broad, sturdy, upper back. Mind me asking if the drape cut is a benefit to those with broad backs?
    Thanks and Happy Christmas.

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  3 года назад +1

      Thank you and good luck with everything..You never stop learning.

  • @tomberlied7260
    @tomberlied7260 3 года назад +1

    Love the clock sound!

  • @taniaearle4457
    @taniaearle4457 Год назад +1

    Im with you both that one 😍 but im old fashioned, qnd what fantastic condition they are in. Stuart is a good sport.

  • @darinakalinova2180
    @darinakalinova2180 2 года назад

    I just love it. That is what it means craftsmanship and bespoke. I am so sad I can't come and train. I am 48 years old but sewing as hobby for last 35 years. Now in school to learn pattern making and tailoring. Just love what you are doing. Now comes my question. What would be your recommendation for a sleeve ease to keep comfort for a customer ? Thank you a lot.

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  2 года назад

      Sorry, there's more to that than I can answer here. Good luck and keep up the hard work. Best,
      Tom.

  • @northernking2604
    @northernking2604 2 года назад

    Drape cut. Inspired the whole neapolitan cut.

  • @user-cb7eo3mr7x
    @user-cb7eo3mr7x 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much indeed🏅

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  4 месяца назад

      Our pleasure, thank you for watching.

  • @toddnyc1642
    @toddnyc1642 5 месяцев назад

    WOW BEAUTIFUL JACKETS!

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  4 месяца назад

      I'm sure Mr Palmer will be delighted to read that. Thank you for your kind comment and for watching.

  • @AllanGradus
    @AllanGradus 2 года назад +1

    To me this seems to be old age discussion of how much wearing ease is to be included in a garment without detriment to overall finished look. So if you want comfort and ease you are likely to have a less clean look. It's about finding a balance that you are happy with. Curious as to why the phrase 'drape' is used in tailoring as there is little draping involved.

  • @Tyreman22
    @Tyreman22 2 года назад +1

    That second double breasted jacket is fabulous. Fits superbly.

  • @paata799
    @paata799 6 месяцев назад

    Great video Thank you

  • @dirksilver
    @dirksilver 3 года назад +2

    Man, that last blazer! Just beautiful!
    Would it be alright if I sent you a personal message to pick your brain on some fit issues that are stumping me?

  • @justmoritz
    @justmoritz Месяц назад

    I notice the second double breasted (Tom's) also has a collar that wants to stay on the neck. I'm a big fan of the drape cut, but also of the attention to fit here.

  • @DEN3366
    @DEN3366 3 года назад +3

    How many suits in rotation to make them last 20-30 years?

  • @pasitpoomchusri6604
    @pasitpoomchusri6604 8 месяцев назад +1

    soft power..

  • @rayadisurya7343
    @rayadisurya7343 2 месяца назад

    Hi I have a question regarding suit color choice. Should we only wear light colored suit in the morning and dark for the evening? or is there a color that can be good for both. Please guide me on this. Thanks

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  13 дней назад

      That was the traditional idea but not always the way now. A very tricky one to help with unless we know you and what you need your clothing for. My very best, Tom.

  • @ambarishdebgupta7762
    @ambarishdebgupta7762 2 года назад

    My first suit, made here by a tailor in Delhi has been somewhat damaged by the laundry people. They ironed the lapel!! Spoiled the look totally!!! Please advise how to fix it!

  • @benjamin3541
    @benjamin3541 Год назад +1

    I love it .

  • @desanctisapostata
    @desanctisapostata 3 года назад +1

    I like it!
    What about the full chest? How do you achieve that effect?

  • @alexandersakulin3127
    @alexandersakulin3127 6 месяцев назад

    Stewart, a good sport

  • @Enverxis
    @Enverxis 3 года назад

    Great video, thank you very much

  • @TheCitizenRemy
    @TheCitizenRemy Год назад

    I want this!

  • @elviskorankye3070
    @elviskorankye3070 2 года назад

    I'm Taylor from Ghana and want to learn more from you,

  • @3DGvisuals
    @3DGvisuals 3 года назад +2

    1:27 (he said knowingly with a twinkle in his eye)

    • @kc6609
      @kc6609 3 года назад +1

      ikr 😅 he remembers her very well....

  • @arthurford829
    @arthurford829 Год назад

    That’s the loudest clock I’ve ever heard!

  • @pauljames907
    @pauljames907 7 месяцев назад

    Is the microphone next to a ticking clock?

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  7 месяцев назад

      We just have a loud clock! Thanks for watching.

  • @leeferdinand6465
    @leeferdinand6465 3 года назад

    Leant a great deal ! Thanks a lot!

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 2 года назад +1

    *APPROXIMATELY £160 A YEAR* those suits - assuming £5,000 over 30 years
    £3 a week for a bespoke Savile Row suit. Less than 1 coffee a week

    • @DavidS-iy8bb
      @DavidS-iy8bb Год назад

      But you need a few to rotate them. If you wore the same suit all the time it wouldn't last as well as Stewart's.

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 Год назад

      @@DavidS-iy8bb - This is very true.

  • @Achillez7
    @Achillez7 2 года назад

    How much for your bespoke suit ? Also do I have to come to England to get one or do you travel ?

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  2 года назад

      Dear Sir,
      Our prices can be found here - redmayne1860.com/pages/bespoke. We do travel it depends where you are based? Thanks for watching. Best,
      Tom.

  • @Gatsu289
    @Gatsu289 2 года назад

    Id love for this guy to teach me

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  2 года назад +2

      We'd drink too much! Thank you anyway, Best,
      Tom.

  • @toobalkain
    @toobalkain Год назад

    mad respect to AS craftsmanship but that straight Anderson line and the closed quarters, it looks a bit too old school for today, it's just too dressy and too 90's for the current world but AS seems to have realized that too and gone for a more Neapolitan vibe lately.

  • @chilledgamezone4950
    @chilledgamezone4950 3 года назад +3

    Poor Stuart 🤣🤣🤣

    • @rolle820
      @rolle820 3 года назад +1

      Yeah feel a little bad for him having to play the role of a walking mannequin

  • @Philo68
    @Philo68 3 года назад +2

    Somebody left the indicator on. Very annoying!

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  3 года назад +3

      So sorry but that is the company's antique clock ticking. We don't have the heart to stop it.

    • @Philo68
      @Philo68 3 года назад +1

      @@savilerowtales I was simply being glib. Glad to hear the clock is still in fine fettle. May it tick (uninterrupted) until ‘Kingdom Come’!

  • @hfgcfcxddf2184
    @hfgcfcxddf2184 2 года назад

    كيف التواصل معك والعمل من العراق

  • @BigLew72
    @BigLew72 7 месяцев назад

    You sound like Tyson Fury for real

    • @savilerowtales
      @savilerowtales  7 месяцев назад

      Hmmm...Thanks for watching, I've met him and didn't notice but I suppose you don't hear your own voice.

  • @902d
    @902d 3 года назад

    Wrong with never buttoning the bottom one. With DB you button all of them if you are formally representing. Rest of the situations you can button it whichever way you like, even open.

  • @skkutub8787
    @skkutub8787 Год назад

    I am a good coat cutting master .. please give me a job

  • @sssembler
    @sssembler Год назад +1

    they really do get a bit high on themselves when talking about Saville Row.. it is just a street. You are not saving lives, just making cloths.

  • @NarinderKumar-xf4sq
    @NarinderKumar-xf4sq 3 года назад +1

    Sleev is not well

  • @y11971alex
    @y11971alex 2 года назад

    I had the good fortune of picking up a jacket made around 1900, and the fineness of the work was what convinced me to purchase a jacket so far out of style that I could not possibly wear it on any day other than Halloween. And like what this video suggests about the tailoring customs of former times, the arm holes are small.