@@zelowatch30Ford V Ferrari will be my favorite “based on a true story” movie for a long long time Edit: It was also quite memorable because I saw it opening weekend with friends ofc just months before covid. If only I knew that’d be my last time in a movie theater for about 2 years.
A big factor Charlie didn't mention is the death of the mid-budget movie that used to fill cinema seats. The courtroom dramas, 2000s comedies, Shawshank Redemptions, Home Alones, Good Will Huntings, that used to do a decent run in the cinemas and would sometimes explode in popularity, but at worst would recoup most of their costs through DVD sales. Now that the distribution model has changed these films are few and far between and usually relegated to streaming. Nowadays you have the two polar extremes of expensive blockbuster or low-budget independent/arthouse film with little in between.
well yea thats the thing, i dont like super hero movies and i only go with my nephews when they want to see something, fewer movies of horror or suspense dosent do any favors to me atleast
@@biteofdog shawshank and green mile both flopped but are now seen as cult classics which is kinda sad since they didnt get the the recognition they deserved on release.
For me, it's the prices 100%. My dad used to take me and my brother to the cinema when we were kids. I remember we needed no more than a tenner for all 3 of us (maybe 15 with food and drinks). I recently took my 2 boys to see the Super Mario Movie. For 3 tickets and 2 buckets of popcorn, the trip cost me 75 euros. I legit couldn't believe it! It put me off taking them to the theater again. We can get so much more bang for our buck doing something else (Like a day out at our local amusement park, which includes rides and food, for example).
75 euros so like 100cad yea it is crazy I havent seen a movie in theaters since 2018 but I go for the arcade because ciniplex in canada is fun as hell and only arcade really in my city
What kind of cinema did you go to, for 3 tickets in the UK it's 14.97 and another like 15 - 20 for snacks (we never pay for snacks in the cinema though because they're overpriced). It's like 15 for 3 tickets or 34.97 with snacks
@AqueousYT this was back in the 90s, bro. Tenner is probably an exaggeration, but me and my friend would constantly frequent the cinema and not need much money.
@AqueousYT aha. Yeah I haven't been to a cinema in the UK for over a decade as I'm now living overseas. But here in Austria, its insane. As I said in my original post, it cost me over 70 euros to take my 2 kids to see super mario. It really sucks, as it seems like going ANYWHERE these days will put a dent in your wallet.
Just checked AMCs prices, its 10.49 for a popcorn, 7.49 for a drink and 14.99 for a ticket. For 2 people as of April 2024, it for 2 people, costs 65.94 before taxes to have you and a friend in a theater. People need to start thinking about what they spend on as the hours it would take to replenish that money. I make 17.50 an hour with a monthly bonus of around 3k. Disregarding the bonus, it would take me 3.76 hours of work just to replenish that money i spent on popcorn and a movie. just not worth it. Back when tickets were 6 bucks and popcorn was 5 max, yeah that was cool. Theres no justification to spending almost 70 bucks for heated corn and a movie.
@@taylor0000027either some sort of sales goal bonus or stock option. In the US, the employee stock option plan is actually capped at 25k a year, so I doubt he is getting paid in stocks. He must be doing salesman or getting tips as a server at a restaurant. Getting around 100 bucks per night he works sounds right. Calling tips a bonus is not wrong but it is something you say when you are embarrassed about your profession. Don’t be.
@@taylor0000027 In NYC, 100 a night working at a restaurant is below average or slow day numbers. Maybe widest locations in the US probably it's alright.
Than tell me how you please your investors or stockholders by having one woke box office flop after the other. To earn money you have to please the audience... But literally nobody wants to see a dead horse beaten till theres only mush left, nobody wants to see a corpse dug up and raped on screen... Cause thats the only thing hollywood can come up with the last 10 years. Remake after remake, live action that nobody wanted or asked for, woke agenda, raceswaps and genderswaps, franchises getting stomped into the ground and being left to die. But Hollywood just doesnt see that theyre not making money with that any longer, people are fed up with that crap being shoved down their throats, and box office numbers prove it...
It’s crazy how movie theaters are becoming almost obsolete and they are charging more for tickets and snacks to try and offset the loss but that only deters people more from attending. There are several contributing factors like movies getting worse and lazy, streaming becoming dominant and increased prices, to create almost a perfect storm of more and more people staying home and watching movies.
to be fair, at least for me, snacks have been outrageously priced since the begening of time, before streaming was a thing and while blockbuster was still the place to rent vhs lol. they haven't offset with the price of snacks or tickets, not in my country at least, it was never cheap. They just rather stayed complacent haha. Thinking they could forever charge the prices they desired and the audience would go along because they had few options back then, but not now.
The theater in my town hasn’t replaced it’s seats since the 80’s would be my guess, they do keep increasing their prices though and frankly I’d rather be at home.. cleaner, more comfortable, quiet, and save 100 bucks. I will wait to stream it
A lotta times I just find myself watching older movies. And I honestly just find them more entertaining. Even the humor was more real and actually funny
this is because you had to write something good for it to be popular, not just be a brand movie to succeed not to mention that movies and tv shows have dips and peaks in quality, it correlates to the current happiness of everyone, the creative inspiration of the time, etc. with everything right at your fingertips, would you really be interested in seeing snow white or king arthur told the for the 1000th time? imo, not really haha
@@Boostlagg sure you could and let people hate on it, but have such a good amount of people who like it so you have defensive capabilities and not get cancelled.
As someone who actually loves going to IMAX theaters, it is genuinely insane to me how expensive the movie theater has become. It's definitely a reason why large families - parents with 2+ kids - don't go to the theater. It's like $100 for 4 people to enjoy the movies with snacks.
You’re going to an IMAX theatre though, one of the most expensive spots to see new movies, so of course it’s going to be expensive. Besides, local movie theaters are much cheaper and you get more bang for your buck, despite not watching in 4K with high end leather seats.
@@shadowbug1811 It’s still way too expensive at most local theaters. It cost around $60 for 3 people ($14 per ticket) including snacks when I went last week with my family.
Look out for deals I just went yesterday with my freind group of 10 and tickets just cost over $60. I also have a membership with the theatre for discounts
14 per ticket is pretty average tho… what price do you think makes sense. Also… just bring your own snacks when you know for ages now movie theaters have overcharged on them
No one really mentions this, but I also think another big reason is video games. Movies were a one of a kind medium, but nowadays you can play a video game with movie quality storytelling and voice acting, and it’s interactive and immersive. Plus, you don’t need to go anywhere to play it, you just stay at home
Absolutely true. Furthermore, one good video game might cost a bit more than a trip to the theater. But not only does it often last longer than a movie, when you do the math on how much entertainment you're getting per dollar, it's absolutely no contest.
Nope, games, even the most interactive ones like God of War, have nothing to do with movies, unless there is an actual research on this, it's just not believable in the slightest.
@TheKayShawn It's only speculation but you have a point. We don't know until there is research to back it up but I think it's a good claim. I'd rather play a video game than watch a movie. I wouldn't want to spend money on a movie unless it has good story telling.
@@bozardo101 most people aren’t gamers and most games require you to buy, download, install, have a good PC, and then play, whereas you just open your netflix on any device you have and start watching, hell of a difference, I do not think games have had any change at all on movies but I can be wrong, maybe there will be a research someday.
From what I’ve seen and heard from other people: 1. Lazy story writing 2. Not staying true to the source material 3. Ticket prices are EXPENSIVE (the theater when I live charges $11 a person😢) 4. DEI being forced in everyone’s face 5. Unlikeable characters 6. Cringy dialogue and characters 7. To much reliance on childish humor
The other thing to point out is that while there are thousands of stories that could be turned into films, the film industry has a huge problem with their less than mediocre recycling of film tropes.
Spider-Man ATSV is an example of this. It was well animated but gee, wasn’t it overrated! The story was a cliched mess with plot holes everywhere. I could honestly watch it again due to the various details and Easter eggs, BUT I still scratch my head why people panned Elemental for the story but gave ATSV a free pass. It makes no sense. Spoilers: First, you have your typical rebellious teenager story plot line. Then you have the fact every Spider-Man is propped up by human sacrifice in every f*ckin dimension? Lore wise it makes no sense because the existence of Spider-Man in itself is far more complex than what they portrayed in ATSV. They essentially dumbed down the lore for the sake of what exactly? Honestly what a way to take away the power through responsibility principle and turning the story into an utter mess. Don’t get me started on how a rookie like Miles outsmarted thousands of so called “genius” spider men/women with years and years, decades of experience during the escape scene. I am ok if people didn’t like Elemental or Indiana Jones, but opinions make the world go round. Call the stories boring, or whatever, I don’t care. My only gripe is that people are essentially playing favorites. I hate this picking and choosing. ATSV is hardly a masterpiece and certainly ain’t a 10/10 movie.
I saw Atsv in theaters and there was like 8 trailers before, I'm not kidding, all of them looked dogshit (some of them might be good but the trailers sucked). Rotten tomatoes and other review sites are also very popular now
As a movie theater employee myself, it is very noticeable how many people actually bother to show up. I’ve even been through several schedule changes because of how not so crowded it is
It’s sad, because nothing can compare to see a movie on the big screen. But I haven’t gone to a movie in years, especially now that we can all wait until it comes out on a streaming platform. I think they should start giving people decent rewards like for every $50 you spend you get $5 off plus a free concession popcorn or soda. They need to find ways to get people in theaters again.
Tarantino is right, we need to bring back the mid-budget movie. Some of the most beloved films of the past were mid-budget films. It allows the creators to have some creativity without having to worry about hitting it and it of the park every time. Some mid-budget movies include: The Truman Show, Fight Club, and Moneyball
The thing with mid-budget movies is that they often depict everyday normal scenarios we can relate to. Home Alone, it's just a kid at his house. Pulp Fiction - it's just some criminals driving around doing crime. Some of the most famous and loved films depict very mundane settings and are entirely driven by characters and plot. We don't need giant CGI monsters or huge visual spectacle.
I think the moment Marvel started releasing shows on Disney+ that tied directly with the movies is when they lost a lot of the fan base. It meant you had to watch mediocre tv shows to even understand what the hell was going on in some movies (my friend hadn’t seen WandaVision, so when he went to see Dr Strange 2 with me, he was like throughout “Why is Wanda here?” “Since when did she have kids?” “Why is she so angry and hurt?”)
Basically like watching Tokyo Ghoul Season 2 without reading the manga of the first season first. Season 1 completely branches off from the manga in the second half then in Season 2 follows the manga again. Causing a lot of confusion with my friends at the time.
I think disneys problem is they keep trying so hard to be diverse to get more people to watch the movie than they are worrying about if the product is actually good.
@@k3salieri they should've gone the Blue Exorcist route. Season 2 just completely ignores whatever the fuck happened in the 2nd part of season 1, since the source material didn't exist yet.
It's literally homework. Dull boring crap that gets assigned for you to slog through so you can understand what's being discussed on the screen. Entertainment is fundamentally not supposed to work that way.
@@Soggywafflecakes I don’t think people have a problem with diversity per se. Arcane is one of the most diverse shows I’ve ever seen, and it’s phenomenal, but I agree that the main problem is that they hide behind diversity to excuse bad writing.
You kind of touched upon it with ticket cost, but in general at large, budgeting and keeping up with life in the current day has been my main deterant for attending theaters. When my bills, food, gas, and routine is keeping me paycheck to paycheck, there's no reason to put any film as a priority.
There was a “dollar theatre” we went to when I was a kid. It was a discounted movie theatre that played movies slightly after actual theater release. My family went all the time. When it closed we went to a movie every like 6 months if that. It’s just too expensive
I miss dollar theaters, there was one I liked going to throughout my life, but I think COVID killed them off. Which sucks because you get the cinema experience but at a cheaper price. Heck, the food wasn't stupidly overpriced either.
That new Puss In Boots is a perfect example of exactly what new movies need to be. It was a sequel, something safe, but it was so creative and did a bunch of new things. Puss had chatacter development, and he had genuine problems throughout the movie like panic attacks and struggling with his own mortality. Extremely creative antagonists that didn't just "I was bad but now I'm good" at the end. They STAYED BAD.
I like this too. I want more villans that are just stubbornly bad and stay that way. I like to think about walter white. Despite everything crumbling down around him, he stayed true to his own shitty ideals as a drug lord.
Exactly that, your point about the villains staying bad is perfect. I do like a redemption arc sometimes, but I’m getting tired of having them in every movie. I really feel like a good example of how to a redemption arc right is The Winter Soldier. He was bad, had his mind control broken through in a legitimately intelligent and convincing way, and then turned good. However, AFTER Bucky turned good, he struggled with the deeds of what he did while he was bad. This is something a lot of redemption arcs miss, and that’s what makes them lacklustre. It’s legit “I was bad but now I’m good” and not enough “what have I done?” A good example to me of a bad guy staying bad to the end is David from The Last of Us, but specifically in the show. He was fighting Ellie in a BURNING BUILDING and still was going to do what he wanted to do until she killed him. He was willing to put his life aside just to be an evil son of a bitch. As terrible of a person as David is, he’s a wonderfully written character. Some characters deserve to be irredeemable, like The High Evolutionary or Micah Bell from Red Dead Redemption II. Others deserve redemption. It’s just that studios have a huge problem deciding who deserves redemption, and if they do, how to do it well.
This is why in the future I’m gonna try too get a good home theater type set up, and a popcorn maker with the ingredients to make movie theater popcorn.
Honestly, if we get even one more movie that goes as hard as Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, we should let DreamWorks do whatever the hell the hell they want.
Writers, Directors and Producers are no longer hired in modern Hollywood, they are cast. Based on their optics, external characteristics and previous activism.
What I also hate is the amount of reboots and remakes of old movies being made. We're living in a purgatory where we're just experiencing a newer version of an old movie in an endless cycle
I like reboots. It brings attention to the older versions and allows new generations to explore something they originally would never have. Even if the movie flops, the discovery of the original is totally worth it Ex: charlie and the chocolate factory :) thats my fav
Yeah and then female version after that. It’s so annoying. (Coming from a female) Nothing is original anymore - some things are but you know what I mean.
@@megmc80basically that’s how most movies are now. take a franchise, make a sequel, kill the main character, replace it with the female lead that nobody likes and is basically invisible and keep making movies with that character. A lot of the directors basically use the characters as a self insert for what they want to see themselves do rather than being a character.
The motto, “ Give the people what they want” is no longer followed by creators. In some cases, it’s literally the opposite. Then they wonder what went wrong.
The fact that some directors and writers have gone on record and openly bragged that they didn't consume or study the source material when making remastered works or derivative adaptations is truly pathetic.
@@BlazingOwnagerExactlyyy like how killing off characters is just so expected and never shocking at this point. They all try to do it for shock value or thinking it’ll make them special when everyone is expecting it and it only makes people lose interest. Idk how they’re just not understanding they don’t have to kill every single character people like to make a good movie.
Well the people keep crying that nothing is like what it's used to be . Talking about how movies back then were better then we get remakes . Also the people don't know what they want .
@@tesytes318people do know what they want. It’s modern era elitist Hollywood that refuses to give people what they want in favor or a newer more inclusive/progressive movie landscape that belittles all their beloved characters
I’m surprised no one has mentioned asteroid city yet. That movie was excellent, artistic, and very creative. It’s a shame it didn’t get the attention it deserved
People are finally becoming smart enough to distinguish which movies are trying to pander, and which movies are actually trying to tell a story. Of course we'd always choose the one trying to tell a story.
Sadly, Its not like that. Its simply because of streaming services and everyone getting access to it. And to add to this... Believe it or not, a few years ago, not everyone had internet. Now even the poorest of the poor can have access.
My biggest fear with movie theaters is that they'll slowly start closing down and there'll be hardly any left. Then many years later they're brought back as a type of nostalgia trip(i.e. roller skating rinks). I'd hate to see this happen because I still love going to the theater, because there really isn't a better place to watch new movies (in terms of picture and audio). If your not wanting to go out of your way to go to the cinema due to cost that's understandable. I just wish we had better quality films coming out so they'd deserve to be seen in a theater(i.e. Spiderverse). I can say without doubt the best way to watch Spiderverse is in a theater.
I predict that it will happen soon. We are currently witnessing the death of cinema, as how the generations before witnessed the death of the drive-in.
personally unless its one of those 3D or 4D movies, nothing at a movie theatre cant be done better at home easier. Most people already can get a better experience at home with just their TV than they can at a movie theatre. Without a "home theatre" setup. Unless you've got a CRT or something at home, lights you cant turn off, speakers that dont work, and you have the worlds most uncomfortable couch; Theatres that arent doing special effects offer absolutely nothing.
Theaters have a niche in that they show indie project, foreign films, or small non hollywood movies that aren't worldwide releases. Usually they are for one night or weekend but it's still a purpose I don't see being replaced
As someone who works at a theater, this is true. 12 dollar tickets and 7 dollars for a soft drink, 10 dollars for popcorn. Just 2 people that's about 50 dollars and not even full yet. It's really expensive to go.
I went to go watch the new insidious movie. It wasn’t bad but it also wasn’t great, so many plot holes and it felt a bit lazy. 6/10 for me. I spent 20 bucks on the damn popcorn and large drink combo, I felt like I got so ripped off. On top of that they have me a cup that was bent towards the top. When I filled my drink and when to put the top on, it didn’t fit and it kept falling off, I couldn’t get a new cup cuz I already filled this cup. Every time I would hold the drink the cover would pop off. Then when we are watching the movie I get caught off guard by the first jump scare and spilled half my popcorn on the floor 😢 I know the last bit was my fault lol but still, overall not a great experience and it’s felt like this for a while now.
I went to watch a movie with a girl I bought the tickets and I was buying the snacks, little did I know she was going to order a large popcorn and two large drinks, it was about fifty dollars for me to go to a movie with a girl, and I didn’t even make a move
For me, movie theaters used to be a fun, easy night out I could have with friends a few times a month. Now, it’s an event, and it costs more than double what it used to. Plus, Charlie hit it on the head, there just isn’t a ton of stuff being made for theaters that interests me enough to pay those exorbitant prices. With how expensive everything else is nowadays, movie theaters just aren’t worth it anymore.
I think that combined with how long theatres were shut down and made people realize "Oh hey, we were marketed these big ass TV's to us for a reason" really sucked a lot of reason to actually go to a theatre.
If you live in a big expensive city, it has been an "event" for a while. But, I agree it has gotten worse. The tickets were $25 for 3 adults (the theatres were running a promo), yet the food was $50...(large popcorn, coke, and taxes). This was last year, I do not plan on going to a movie theatre anytime soon.
are they that expensive though? i'm from australia and tickets cost around $20 here (about 15 usd), which is perfectly fine for going to the movies once a week
Used to have 5$ ticket Tuesdays around where I live. Plus free (small) popcorn if you were a part of their free loyalty program. Miss those days of seeing a movie with a drink and popcorn for like 10 bucks
I think a big factor is Hollywood has gotten addicted to blockbusters. So they keep putting a lot of there efforts into high budget movies hoping for high returns. Instead of just going for success.
That's nothing new. Hollywood favoring big blockbusters has been a thing since blockbusters. And now, what's the alternative? The ONLY movies that do well in theaters now are blockbusters, anything else people don't bother to show up because they know they'll just be able to stream it later on. And, "Instead of just going for success"? What does that even mean??
What does that even mean? Is a successful movie not a blockbuster? A movie having a high budget is not the same thing at all as being a blockbuster. block·bust·er nounINFORMAL a thing of great power or size, in particular a movie, book, or other product that is a great commercial success. "the latest Hollywood blockbuster" So what you're saying is that Hollywood has stopped making successful movies in the pursuit of making successful movies. Ah yes, now I understand. Why would the goal of the film industry ever be to NOT make successful movies? Wtf? How does your comment have 500 likes?
That's not. It's the woke agenda. The Mary Sue. The need to down the male lead. Real filmmakers are far and few between because nobody would hire them. People only want to put money behind things that won't offend anyone. U can't entertain people without offending somebody.
I remember when the cost of a ticket was minimal, and something extra was money that was crumbled in your pocket. Now if you want to enjoy something with the movie, by the time you are done it often costs more then the ticket price.
2:37 had this exact experience at AMC when I saw infinity pool. Except I didn’t realize it was Dasani until the purchase went through. And even tho the Dasani was MORE expensive then the smaller smart water I went with and they wouldn’t let me exchange it so they had to get the manager and do a refund. Best part was I only had $10 and the refund wasn’t instant. So I only had $2 left in my bank and my friend had to buy the fooking water.
Disney used to do fairly large promotion campaigns but they've had this philosophy that their movies sell themselves as of late. With so much online content and online content improving in quality, these major film companies need to realise that they aren't just inherently above any of that competition and have to compete for people to watch. Ruby Gillman was another "I'm a normal person but i have a weird quirk" thing and Elemental was another "cute down to earth pixar thing with non-human characters having their own little world and feelings." To succeed, these companies need to not only sell themselves more and in a more compelling way but have an idea that breaks some new ground too.
Thing is, the Pixar problem kinda started back when Inside Out was a thing. I never liked that movie, and I couldn't see why it was so popular. Now, it seems that's all Pixar is focusing on. "What obscure thing can we give feelings today?" I'm just snoozing at these new releases lol..
For real, though. A lot of Disney’s movies these days I don’t hear about until shortly before it releases. I had no idea Encanto was a thing until just a few weeks before it came out and wouldn’t have seen it if it weren’t for streaming. The lack of promotion just shows me that they don’t have confidence in their products.
@@DeathnoteBB it was mostly the first trailer and everybody going wild about the movie for about a week that I knew anything about the movie, also it's kinda funny seeing it flop after everyone hyping up DreamWorks just because they made two good movies back to back recently
Don't you just love how in the last years we've got film after film, literally digging out corpses of concluded franchises. Even Pixar couldn't even wait more than 4 years before reopening toy story's coffin with a new sequel
I get the feeling it's all about minimizing risks, trimming all the fat, trying to get the most out of doing the least. No new ideas, just rehashed canned products. It's the same in music where you have all these made-up stars that get their texts written by that one Swedish guy and keep pumping the same stale sh*t over and over again.
I think this is part of why everyone is so excited for Barbie and Oppenheimer. They both feel like actual Film Events that are worth going out for, and even though they're about pre-existing things (a popular toy and a real person), they still feel fresh and genuinely interesting as opposed to a lot of films lately that just feel phoned in. The movies opening on the same day is just the cherry on top.
@@mastermill79 from what ive read the plot for barbie seems to be expected to be quite interesting, self aware, and good quality, with vibes of (a somewhat lighter hearted) truman show. I think it has potential
They already fucked Barbie right up with the woke agenda. The movie starts where EVERYBODY is Barbie every color of person is a Barbie. Every color of man is a Ken. It's stupid as shit. I took my kid to Little Mermaid and she hated it. She's 3. We are not racist but she's like Daddy why is this little mermaid black? I had no way to answer her question. All I could muster was, I Really don't know?
Someone mentioned in a post i was responding to that movies used to be more risky. The way movies were made was not based on what you WANTED. They could focus on making things that people can enjoy because it was good. Now it is about knowing what you want and using that to get away with garbage. Cinema is turning into "be careful what you wish for.".
Peoples home setup have changed. I have a big tv, great 5.1 surround sound, comfortable reclining couch, any food and drink i want and i can pause the movie to use the bathroom. And best of all, there isn't 30 other people that won't shut the hell up. Going to the theater for me is more of a hassle, for a worse experience.
@@lonestarrk9308hey'll definitely try to sprinkle modern politics into it if there is an investor who bases their whole personality around it, but I'm cautiously optimistic to see Oppenheimer in theatres
There's a lot of reasons why "Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken" bombed. It's a kids movie without much adult appeal, so that narrows down the audience. It also opened during a packed movie season where more crowds are going to want to see familiar franchises like Transformers or Spiderverse than take a gamble on an animated movie that looks like a wetter version of Trolls. It's also a sea life-themed movie coming out only weeks after Little Mermaid, so there probably isn't a demand for more of that. Also, other than one trailer, I haven't seen any promotion for this outside of theaters. People aren't going to see a movie that they don't know exists! The most common reaction to this movie flopping was that nobody had heard of it,. It probably could have done better with a later release date and with more promotion. Dreamworks has mostly themselves to blame.
@@Ryusuta as of today, international gross was $243,744,758. Combined with the Domestic Gross of $281,241,145... we're at $524,985,903 combined, which is at the low end of estimates for a "break even" point (not profit, just paying off what they spent to make/advertise the film)
@@Ryusuta hummm not sure about this the overall gross is 526 millions. China has rejected that movie and international box office did not pass expectation. Is only here in America the movie generated most revenue. You can correct me on this one if you know better.
Since the government said there was a world wide pandemic, and by law told me it was illegal to go into movie theatres, and restaurants. I stopped going, and have just never gotten back into going to a theatre, and buying ten dollar popcorn. Haven't been in a restaurant, or theatre since February 2020.
I used to work for Carmik Cinemas before they got bought out and I can tell you movie theaters do not make money from selling tickets. They only revenue they make comes from what they sell at the concession stand.
Something I don't see many others talking about is how big TV shows have gotten. While they haven't replaced movies completely, it does feel like that's the focus for many of the big studios. It just feels like it's so easy to find a new amazing show I havent heard of, but difficult to find a great new movie.
personally, since tv shows are so long, i get more invested in the story/characters and it will be more impactful. After finishing the last season of a series, I almost get sad. like losing a friend lol
@@zwro5045totally agree, but with an additional observation: some series are too long. Not every story needs 6-10 episodes. Seems like a lot of the “documentaries” Netflix has have been intentionally stretched out to get more content but it at the expense of making it boring.
As someone who used to work at a movie theater, I learned why the concessions were always so expensive. As the studios raise the prices of their movie tickets, we have to raise the prices of concessions as well. Employees who work at a movie theater don't make any money off tickets sold, all that money goes straight to the studios who license the movies to the theaters. Concessions are the only commission theaters make, and how they are able to pay their employees. It is still ridiculous though, when I worked there it was $4.75 for a Dasani, $8 is outrageous. Even back then, couples, especially older ones, would wander in an a whim to see a movie, then hear the prices and say "Never mind, we can watch something at home." And turn around and leave. So I agree with Charlie, as tickets get more expensive, less people are interested in going to see just anything, and with less people, the concessions get more expensive to pay the employees, and it's kind of spiraling to its doom.
@@capybara9802no lol There's a reason a lot of theaters are struggling and why say Disney or WB hasn't created their own theater. There's very little profit in it.
@@capybara9802it’s not 50/50, not even close, they do make money from tickets though but most of the money is made from concessions. Also as the movie gets older, the cinema gets more in terms of ticket sales but not that helpful considering most watch a film earlier in its cycle.
@@Antwannnn I’m not sure how you thought I was trying to say movie theaters are profitable from that comment, all I’m saying is that they do make money from ticket sales, all the money doesn’t go strait to the studios.
@@capybara9802 This isn't remotely true - you shouldn't speak so authoritatively on something you don't understand. Studios will often take 80 or 90% of the ticket sales for the first 3 weeks or so. The longer the movie plays the percentage starts to even out and can eventually reach the 50/50 split. No studio is offering theaters 50% of tickets sales on a new release ever.
I've been working at a movie theater for 3 years and I can relate to a lot of what is said in your videos about the latest movies coming out. People come and are constantly complaining and it's understandable, they went out of their way to come to the theater, they bought expensive tickets and even more expensive junk food only to be disappointed of the movie. When movies like Avatar way of the water, Mario, Spider-man across the spiderverse and Spider-man No way home came out, people were thrilled and came out of the room super hyped and couldn't stop talking about this and that and omg remember that scene!? And now I see people come out and just leave without a word. I think people are still attached to the experience of going to see a good movie and hearing everyone be hyped with you in the auditorium and out of it, but are constantly disappointed which will slowly make the movie theaters disappear.
This comment is literally how I feel. And the exact movies you named were the ones I was super hyped for and talked hours about them with my friends. It’s such a amazing feeling to see good movies. And I’m literally scrolling through the movie theater movies to see a good one release.
I find your observations as a theater employee insightful and interesting. I've studied Cinema in college, years ago, and I understand the potential the movie theater experience has to elevate the art and craft of big screen cinema. Unfortunately, for many, many, reasons what we're seeing come out of Hollywood is rarely meeting the ticket price expectations that consumers have. Yes, making movies is a big business, with stakeholders who have expected returns on their investment so risk is minimized while trying to maximize reward. Why are so many movies remakes, repackaging, pre-quals, sequels or even ongoing versions of an established franchise? because there's less risk when you have an proven storyline or cast. The reason Adam Sandler still has a career is because his movies are cheap and pretty much have a guaranteed audience who want to see a 90s SNL cast reunion on the big screen that's relatively funny and entertaining. Are they good movies? thats open for interpretation, but they make a set amount of money that's pretty well predicted before shooting begins. On the other hand, investing $500 Million over years of development into a blockbuster like Avatar: the Way of water is still a gamble that studios have little interest in taking when Sandler movies make a consist amount for a fraction of the cost and little risk. Personally, I'll take a trip to the theater to see movies that have had the money invested in a serious sound track and image resolution to ensure an immersive experience (Ex. Top Gun 2) that's only possible on the big screen versus my 85" 4K TV at home. Unfortunately, the theater is also were the $20 popcorn and $8 Cokes and all the idiots come out to talk during the movie or use there phone which ruins the experience. Yes, I like the theater experience, but I like the ability to control my surrounding and actually enjoy a movie instead of being frustrated by an ever increasing level of public stupidity.
@@jefffaller8474 enjoy watching entertainment in my own surroundings too. I didn't pay $20+ for tickets and possibly over $15 for food to hear the people four seats down from me talking during the whole fucking movie or hearing a kid (who clearly should not be seeing the same movie I am seeing) keeps asking his parents stupid ass questions throughout the whole movie because he is a kid in a rated R movie. People are annoying and no matter how many acne ridden teenagers they get to sweep and scrub those floors, they are never getting that damn sticky spot of spilled Dr. Pepper off of that floor. That being said, there are some really well kept theaters that offer patrons drinks and even like, full meals for the movie. Some family, friends, and I went to one a few years back in Northern California and I ordered a couple of cocktails and some buffalo wings to have during the movie. I can't even remember what movie we saw but the experience was awesome and memorable and I thought "Europe's been doing this shit for years. Why the fuck don't we do that here in the States?" and then I remembered "Oh, yeah. A lot of our people suck and can't be trusted to do the right fucking thing or control themselves with an ounce of dignity or respect." Anyway. I do appreciate being in the comfort of my own other-people-free surroundings.
I think that if studios invested less on big actors and sfx, then movies would have to rely more on writing for success, and we'd be more interested as audiences. And if it doesn't do as well as they hoped, it's not as huge a loss. More concisely: They're spending too much on making movies. Make cheaper movies. Reduce ticket prices. Get a bigger audience.
This rings true when you think about Avatar, James Cameron told an A-List actor that the story could function just fine without them. That anyone could play the role. And he was right. Saved a shitload on just the main character.
They are spending more money on SFX, but Mavrick and Mario destroyed those movies except Avatar. You do touch on the issue, tho. They just need better writing.
Every business wants that "no way it can fail guarantee" and if that means you gotta put Chris Pratt in the movie, or Margot Robbie, or The Rock, or Steven Segal, or whoever. It's worth it to them. And it's our fault as viewers because people will actually go watch a movie just because an actor they know is in it. We'll also skip them if we don't know any of the actors. Cameron obviously already has exposure because people will definitely watch a movie because of a well known director. And they made it like everyone was waiting on Avatar 2 to drop for like 10 years, even tho most of the current generation probably didn't even see Avatar 1 when it was this incredible cinema experience everyone had to see. I mean who actually thought about Avatar before the marketing for part 2 started? I know I didn't.
I think that's the main point. It's very baffling how I've seen animations that probably needed a grain of sand of the budget that big studios have to come to life. The cost of course is in time, and big studios like pushing out movies like an assembly line every quarter. Like, if the companies are in the interest of cost cutting, how about start by cost cutting on the most unnecessary and expensive garbage that only fluffs the movie visually but not artistically (it just makes it look more AI generated ironically).
@@corruptfaith6674 very different between sfx being the selling point i.e Avatar and the Mario movie and it not being the selling point i.e most other live action movies
As someone who works in the theater industry, specifically with box office and showtimes, I think the real issue is that companies simply aren’t making products the consumers want. Most people’s reaction to elemental was that it was basic, and didn’t serve any real purpose or provide any reason to go see it. Then, there’s films like Indiana Jones 5, with scathing early reviews, and coming from a company that has destroyed pretty much every other legacy property they have. If you actually look at box office returns, if there is a good and interesting movie out, there is an audience. Spiderverse is killing it, Guardians 3 did great, and Puss in Boots 2 did fantastic. The similarity between the three of these is that they were well received movies that gained interest through word of mouth. These days, most people have realized that a lot of movies coming out are just the same stuff, many even just pumping out trash with the assumption that people will instantly buy into it. When Marvel started doing that, mainly last year, it made many people much more skeptical about seeing if a movie is genuinely worth it or not, and most movies simply aren’t. People are wising up, and are refusing to digest the sludge companies come out. If companies want people to actually go see their movies, they need to write and produce good movies.
My problem with movies now is they're just boring and are so routine. We all used to make fun of Adam Sandler movies back in the day because they were all basically the same. But that's basically how all movies are now. It's all just a formula. There's very little personality. It's always just "crank out another of something that has been time-tested and done to death" or rebooting an old IP (generally with a movie that doesn't advance the IP in any way and just regurgitates shit... like the Terminator movies or most one-off remakes of horror movies) Like, honestly, I've been out of touch with movies for years. I DO wanna rewatch the early MCU up until to a point... but even those movies eventually get boring. To someone who's not a comic book guy, you watch the earlier MCU movies and they just feel really innovative and memorable as movies. But then I've had times where I've been to a friends house and they show one of the later MCU films I haven't seen and it's just [insert character here] but stylistically and structurally they feel the same as any marvel movie And I know that's just Marvel movies but like... beyond that, that's my problem lol. It gets even less interesting. I don't care for Disney or Pixar's modern animated movies, I just don't. I mean, I guess I'm also different from most people because I was never big into those kinds of movies even as a kid. But like, usually a lot of these movies tend to have some kind of gimmicky aesthetic or setting attached as "window dressing" of sorts, but then you look at the plot of the movie and it's basically the same as every other pixar/disney movie. The setting for many animated films is generally more interesting than the content of the movie itself, but the setting is undermined by the fact that the entire thing is a device to convey some extremely generic moral or lesson that is probably so dumb and basic that kids don't even learn anything from it. On top of it, the jokes in these movies. And I'm sick of action/drama movies that try to look 'gritty' but come off bland. I think you know what I'm talking about. Big gruff guys with no personality, shaky cam, 'realistic fight scenes' that come off as uncoordinated and lacking any interesting technique or choreography to them. Compare this shit to the action movies of the 80s or any martial arts flick or any john woo flick and basically adult action movies nowadays suck. The plotlines are often so generic too... like the Taken movies. I've heard of people liking those? But literally the premise of the movie is the most plain thing ever Like just give me something that looks cool with a cool style, interesting gimmick, some personality, and for fuck's sake just be creative. All I want to do basically is watch older movies and avoid the newer ones. Nothing nowadays compares to things like, OG Terminator, Aliens, the Matrix, the James Bond movies, etc. Even movies when I was a teen (so like, 2008 to 2014 maybe) were more interesting than the shit that came out. I've seen one-off sci-fi flicks like, Edge of Tomorrow, Oblivion, etc. Even then they were coming up with shit. Nowadays... no one has any kind of creative or artistic mind at all.
Yea it seems like Charlie, along with most people have really low standards (which is why we got here in the first place). I mean he just said Indiana Jones is a totally fine movie but you forget it on the drive home. Forgetting a movie on the drive homes makes it objectively bad. Acting like the movies are pricing people out despite literally every movie thats actually liked getting everyone and their mother into the theater to see it is strange. Top Gun, Mario, Spiderverse, even Avatar 2 all resulted in absolutely packed theaters. The brain drain in Hollywood and many other media industries has been so massive in the 21st century and it's sad to see people still missing this. I basically only watch movies from before I was born (2004) because they're so much better written. I can barely stand to sit through the horribly cringey dialogue in modern movies and when I can it's usually because a classic film franchise gets revived and isn't changed that much like with Top Gun.
As someone who has worked at 2 movie theatres, and are the only two jobs I’ve had, you’re absolutely correct about the outrageous prices. At my current theatre, we are supposed to charge for refills of both popcorns and drinks as well. I don’t though lol
I think a very large factor is how the movies spend their funding and the overall laziness of production. They spend significantly more money than older movies and don't have anything to show for it. The original Indiana Jones movies traveled all across the world to film scenes with less of a budget than today's which used almost completely green screen.
Thats because of inflation. They need to pay their workers a livable wage and Animation studio workers are not paid that amazingly to begin with. The problem is ultimately how out of control the economy is. People can't afford to go see movies anymore, and they are getting too expensive to make because of inflation as well.
@@merleawe_That’s why the main comment wasn’t talking about animation. They said that the films were shot on-location with practical effects , not green screen animation. And the films looked better back then. Modern films suck.
Across the spiderverse is a perfect example of getting people to get up and go to movies. Yes, I do think ppl are going to movies less because of how convenient it is but I think movies actually have to be good now in order to get people to go. Its probably both people are not really going to movies AND movies are getting worse
Exactly, even with already built audiences, people are not going to movies as much. examples are thor love and thunder and doctor strange and the multiverse of madness. They both also bombed.
@@hoodzieboythor love and thunder was what killed superhero movies for me because of how painful it was to watch. Legitimately was unfunny and just downright cringe.
That and paying ridiculous amounts to see the movie and to get food there. There is so much more than I can do with 50+ dollars than watch a movie that in a month will be on a streaming play form that I likely already have
As someone who worked at a theater until COVID hit, that was the suckerpunch to the industry. Big movies got delayed years, then got pushed out before things were normal because no one had any idea if there would be another window of opportunity, and now the stuff we're seeing was started during COVID, so not a lot of risks could really be taken. I think it's gonna take another couple years for the industry as a whole to truly recover.
Add onto that the fact that movies are getting pushed to streaming so fast, there’s not that push to go to the theatre when you can watch it on digital in like a 8 weeks (maybe a little longer at worst) especially in our current economy, it just makes more financial sense to watch at home.
It's actually the forced propaganda and sjw agendas forced at the audience in big budget movies like anything disney touches that people are correctly getting sick and tired of, it's nauseating.
For me, its simply the writing. Hollywood has gotten lazy and started hiring hack activists instead of paying the extra cash for some competent, proven writers. That's why so many movies are remakes now, and why audiences are routinely rejecting them. Give us better written content, and we'll come back to theaters. But half the remakes and shows on D+ could've been written by an AI.
This happened in the late 60's. Hollywood exects had a stranglehold on the creative direction of films and kept trying to pump out the same generic comedies and musicals. They flopped and the execs were desperate enough to cede more control to the directors to make what they wanted. It led to a boom of creative film making in the 70's
Movie theaters used to be a fun, easy night out I could have with friends a few times a month. Now, it’s an event, and it costs more than double what it used to. Also, Charlie hit it on the head, there just isn’t a ton of stuff being made for theaters that interests me enough to pay those exorbitant prices. With how expensive everything else is nowadays, movie theaters just aren’t worth it.
Yeah, I now only go to movie theaters if the movie is worth getting appreciated for or if I need the full experience to fully enjoy the movie like Spiderverse with their unique artstyle or avatar with their astonishing CGI.
Ive only went to see spiderverse Me and like 3 people were well over a hundred dollars almost 2 with the popcorn and drinks Id rather just buy popcorn and watch it at home at this point and invite people its way cheaper
@@kafka315he probably refers to the mainstream. Back in the 80s, what was hitting the pop mainstram was Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Queen and others. They all had their very strong touches, all trying new sounds and new themes. The mainstream today has become as lazy as the movies, but if you look hard enough you find new experimental musical bands and you find A24 for movies.
Nerdrotic has explained what's been going on in Hollywood thoroughly over on his channel. Not only did the modern movie star expose themselves as horrible human beings, the big production companies stopped hiring talented writers and started hiring activists and unqualified POC.
Considering the state of the world, and increasing threat of war. I guarantee this movie was made for a reason. There's definitely an underlying message in the film, or propaganda. Keep in mind that world leaders have underground bunkers. They will press that button. If anything for depopulation.
This didn't age well... People walked out of the movie because of how much it drags the actual plot of the movie which is Oppenheimer's security clearance which is not what people thought they were going to see.
Puss In Boots 2 was a movie so good, it was the first time I’d gone to a theater to see a movie completely alone. It’s probably the most special experience I’ve had seeing a movie and I don’t think it would’ve been the same had I gone with others.
I'm so glad I went with a very close friend to see it. Like you said, it's a special experience. I was expecting a great movie from what I heard, but Puss in Boots 2 was beyond that 🩷
That movie is the only film that competes with Spiderverse. The action, colors, characters, and Death, all were so good and they made fun of fairytales along the way. They should really do that with superheroes except we got The Boys and I'm satisfied with that result.
I think one of the main reasons for Elemental and Ruby Gillman's failure, is the fact that the trailers the produced pretty much told you the whole story. I watched all trailers for elemental, and the movie really didn't expand upon them. Which is a horrible thing to even say, because a movie isn't meant to expand upon the trailer. I believe there needs to be a huge revamp in how companies market their movies.
I heard that the trailers did a terrible job at showing what the movie was. It was like one of those trailers like "Silence of the Lambs but it's a Romantic Comedy" as far as how off it was.
the trailers were awful for Elemental. I went into it ready to sleep, but I was genuinely engaged into a great movie from start to finish. The random buddy next to me getting a blowjob didn't even distract me. Do not watch Ruby Gilman though if you value your time.
@@thomaspluijm4396 In my country anyway, The UK, elemental doesn't come out until the end of this week. And the UK is one of the highest grossing countries for movies outside America. I know I'm going to see it anyway, so hopefully it can make a bit of money here because it looks really sweet and charming.
I think that streaming services have put a massive dent into actual people in movie theater seats performance. We also can't ignore that Charlie answered his own question a couple seconds in, "And I just read this headline here, about a movie I didn't even know existed." I'm starting to notice that more and more companies just aren't bothering to advertise their movies, most likely hoping social media will do all of the heavily lifting for them
Remember when LOTR, Star Wars prequels, and Harry Potter were coming out around the same time and all the good movies we had from 95-2015. Golden area.
In the UK, it's now £18.50 to go to my local ODEON cinema to see ONE MOVIE which during a cost of living crisis is unaffordable! And the food and drink is insanely priced too
"superhero movies were an infinite money glitch for a while but now that glitch has been patched" is genuinely the most perfect analogy ive ever heard edit: they should also patch out the infinite anger glitch that occurs in the replies whenever you post a youtube comment
@@alpsalish They were fine when they tried to follow the comic books and descriptions, but when you stop listening to the fans and what made people go in droves... failure sets in.
It's a lot of things: 1: General audiences are tired of spending upwards of 30 dollars to go see a movie that doesn't look worthwhile. 2: Most movies, even if successful at the box office, are put on streaming services within a month of release, so there's no real point going out to see it in theaters when you can spend less money in a month to have it until the service they buy it from shuts down. 3. A lot of the movies flopping NEED to hit a billion worldwide to break even, which is difficult to do. The new Indy is reported to have a $290 million budget, and the original (adjusted for inflation) cost less than 70 million. Studio heads are speedrunning the death of the movie theater because they're too shortsighted to see basic problems that paint the bigger picture.
Peter Jackson went to studios to pitch his idea for a lotr film. He was passionate about making it. He found new line cinema to fund it. He had to deceive them in a few ways to get it made. Now, studios hire a director to film the movies the studio has rights to. They change stories to make them politically correct. Directors used to make movies with passion. Now directors are cast just as the actors are cast. Hollywood became too political and full of identity politics. After years of it, people are done with the shit movies they produce.
Hollywood writers are uninspired and lean on CGI, A-list celebrities, and hype to carry their terrible stories. Marvel movies/Disney movies are like junk food now. Sometimes they are a lot of fun, but too much just makes you sick.
I also think a factor is that most people have ad-blockers or premium services. So, no one is seeing the ads 😂 But the main issue is most likely price. I'd go to the theatre for a medicore movie if it didn't cost so much per person.
I think another reason is Spider-Man’s massive success. I know people that have gone a couple times to the theater to see it again, myself included. Even a month after release, the tickets still sell like crazy in my area. Spider-Man’s success overshadows a lot of films that have been coming in under the radar.
fr i watched it the day it came out, plus another time and i plan to see it in theaters again. it literally has everything plus the way there are different versions of the move with slight variations in scenes just make it more interesting
Even a movie that good is being canceled in some islamic shit holes like UAE because they acknowledged trans existence as if that's not already set in stone by biology, even with such a not in your face approach conservatives have a problem with so msnt modern movies just because LGBT, idk there are many nunaces on why so many movie fails and people don't go because agenda ig, I've seen my friends talk like this so it's not hard to understand that more do
Audiences don’t want to watch studios turn their childhood heroes into sad, broken, old, losers. We definitely don’t want to see a younger character trashing the legacy character to make the younger one look better and be the obvious replacement for the legacy character.
When I first saw the trailer for Indy 5, I knew they were wanting to replace him with Phebe Waller Bridge’s character and that the whole movie was only made to be able to continue it with her
Meanwhile Japanese anime movies are still going hard, the recently premiered Makoto Shinkai movie "Suzume" just hit 350 Million USD in box office against a 7 million USD budget. Japan is just built different when it comes to animated movies compared to American cartoon movies these days
Japan still makes movies to entertain people... America makes movies to preach agendas at people and destroy their beloved icons for the sake of "updating them for modern audiences". This mythical "modern audience" that doesn't actually exist outside of the activist writers' imaginations.
There's a little cinema in Gloucester, UK, that took things back to basics. Used old-fashioned vintage cinema seats, sells tea in china cups, and bags of popcorn for £1. It is packed out almost every showing. People have adopted it as a community landmark. When Eddie the Eagle was playing, Eddie, who lives locally, showed up to a screening. It's run by a cinema buff who is passionate about the experience, and people love it. I would prefer to sit and watch something in the comfort of my own home unless it was an experiencthat really added to my overall enjoyment. Like you say, most cinemas are extortionately priced and pretty sterile, nondescript environments.
Ngl, my favourite theatre experience was the first Twilight movie. My gf at the time made me go, and it was overbooked, so lots of ppl were sitting on the stairs like me. They didn't even sweep the floors between showings, so we had to sweep away popcorn and other junk. Everyone was hooting and hollering and having a great time, and so was I. Everyone laughed, ppl were shouting insults at the screen and not getting in trouble for it, the energy was so great I swear you could have lit a fire and ppl would dance around it
I remember going to watching Onward with some friends and one of them told me "so where is the part we start crying?" and then I saw how predictable mainstream cinema has become.
@@maggie937think they meant they knew the “crying” bit was building up and they were joking that it wasn’t emotionally moving enough for them to be invested enough to cry
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We've reached the point where technology isn't the bottleneck anymore, its the lack of creativity from the film producers.
They should make more films based on real life events.
@@zelowatch30it would be really boring if there was a movie about the Big Bang event.
@@zelowatch30Ford V Ferrari will be my favorite “based on a true story” movie for a long long time
Edit: It was also quite memorable because I saw it opening weekend with friends ofc just months before covid. If only I knew that’d be my last time in a movie theater for about 2 years.
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@@AJ13688Oh yeah that was a good one!! I’m not even like into cars and I really liked it
A big factor Charlie didn't mention is the death of the mid-budget movie that used to fill cinema seats. The courtroom dramas, 2000s comedies, Shawshank Redemptions, Home Alones, Good Will Huntings, that used to do a decent run in the cinemas and would sometimes explode in popularity, but at worst would recoup most of their costs through DVD sales. Now that the distribution model has changed these films are few and far between and usually relegated to streaming. Nowadays you have the two polar extremes of expensive blockbuster or low-budget independent/arthouse film with little in between.
Didn't Shawshank Redemption flop? It was up against Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump at the time.
I honestly think those types of movies are a thing of past which is sad.
These will make a resurgence more as indie films than big studio backed.
well yea thats the thing, i dont like super hero movies and i only go with my nephews when they want to see something, fewer movies of horror or suspense dosent do any favors to me atleast
@@biteofdog shawshank and green mile both flopped but are now seen as cult classics which is kinda sad since they didnt get the the recognition they deserved on release.
For me, it's the prices 100%.
My dad used to take me and my brother to the cinema when we were kids. I remember we needed no more than a tenner for all 3 of us (maybe 15 with food and drinks).
I recently took my 2 boys to see the Super Mario Movie.
For 3 tickets and 2 buckets of popcorn, the trip cost me 75 euros. I legit couldn't believe it! It put me off taking them to the theater again. We can get so much more bang for our buck doing something else (Like a day out at our local amusement park, which includes rides and food, for example).
75 euros so like 100cad yea it is crazy I havent seen a movie in theaters since 2018 but I go for the arcade because ciniplex in canada is fun as hell and only arcade really in my city
What kind of cinema did you go to, for 3 tickets in the UK it's 14.97 and another like 15 - 20 for snacks (we never pay for snacks in the cinema though because they're overpriced).
It's like 15 for 3 tickets or 34.97 with snacks
@AqueousYT this was back in the 90s, bro. Tenner is probably an exaggeration, but me and my friend would constantly frequent the cinema and not need much money.
@@D8nnyJ Nah the modern day price is unbelievably high I mean
@AqueousYT aha. Yeah I haven't been to a cinema in the UK for over a decade as I'm now living overseas. But here in Austria, its insane. As I said in my original post, it cost me over 70 euros to take my 2 kids to see super mario. It really sucks, as it seems like going ANYWHERE these days will put a dent in your wallet.
Just checked AMCs prices, its 10.49 for a popcorn, 7.49 for a drink and 14.99 for a ticket. For 2 people as of April 2024, it for 2 people, costs 65.94 before taxes to have you and a friend in a theater.
People need to start thinking about what they spend on as the hours it would take to replenish that money. I make 17.50 an hour with a monthly bonus of around 3k. Disregarding the bonus, it would take me 3.76 hours of work just to replenish that money i spent on popcorn and a movie.
just not worth it. Back when tickets were 6 bucks and popcorn was 5 max, yeah that was cool. Theres no justification to spending almost 70 bucks for heated corn and a movie.
What possible job is giving you 3k bonus every month ? 😂😂
@@taylor0000027either some sort of sales goal bonus or stock option.
In the US, the employee stock option plan is actually capped at 25k a year, so I doubt he is getting paid in stocks.
He must be doing salesman or getting tips as a server at a restaurant. Getting around 100 bucks per night he works sounds right.
Calling tips a bonus is not wrong but it is something you say when you are embarrassed about your profession. Don’t be.
@@onewayraildex4827 Restaurant sounds right, min wage. But 100 a night is actually really good, must be a bustling spot.
Why mention the bonus if you arent gonna include it in the math
@@taylor0000027 In NYC, 100 a night working at a restaurant is below average or slow day numbers. Maybe widest locations in the US probably it's alright.
The industry changed once producers and directors changed their views from pleasing the audience to pleasing the investors
profit needs a consumer base but also prefers to insult consumers when they know it can fly
Than tell me how you please your investors or stockholders by having one woke box office flop after the other. To earn money you have to please the audience... But literally nobody wants to see a dead horse beaten till theres only mush left, nobody wants to see a corpse dug up and raped on screen... Cause thats the only thing hollywood can come up with the last 10 years.
Remake after remake, live action that nobody wanted or asked for, woke agenda, raceswaps and genderswaps, franchises getting stomped into the ground and being left to die.
But Hollywood just doesnt see that theyre not making money with that any longer, people are fed up with that crap being shoved down their throats, and box office numbers prove it...
I think it's really fucking funny you think this hasn't been the case since the dawn of cinema and it's some new thing.
@@MINTY_FN then why does nostalgia exist? couldn't it be products used to actually appeal to people (even if in tacky ways) instead of insulting them?
Same goes with Video games
I feel like the masses are just progressively getting better at picking out which movies are actually worth their time
yea im better then Penguinz0
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
I wish I could say that for the video game industry
That’s what I’m thinking too I love the theater but man the movies are shit
I think they're just playing more videogames and waiting to rent and stream.
It’s crazy how movie theaters are becoming almost obsolete and they are charging more for tickets and snacks to try and offset the loss but that only deters people more from attending. There are several contributing factors like movies getting worse and lazy, streaming becoming dominant and increased prices, to create almost a perfect storm of more and more people staying home and watching movies.
to be fair, at least for me, snacks have been outrageously priced since the begening of time, before streaming was a thing and while blockbuster was still the place to rent vhs lol. they haven't offset with the price of snacks or tickets, not in my country at least, it was never cheap. They just rather stayed complacent haha. Thinking they could forever charge the prices they desired and the audience would go along because they had few options back then, but not now.
The theater in my town hasn’t replaced it’s seats since the 80’s would be my guess, they do keep increasing their prices though and frankly I’d rather be at home.. cleaner, more comfortable, quiet, and save 100 bucks. I will wait to stream it
A lotta times I just find myself watching older movies. And I honestly just find them more entertaining. Even the humor was more real and actually funny
Completely agree older movies are way better than anything new
this is because you had to write something good for it to be popular, not just be a brand movie to succeed
not to mention that movies and tv shows have dips and peaks in quality, it correlates to the current happiness of everyone, the creative inspiration of the time, etc.
with everything right at your fingertips, would you really be interested in seeing snow white or king arthur told the for the 1000th time? imo, not really haha
You couldnt make a movie like Talladega nights, superbad, hangover and tropic thunder now wit out the woke mob getting enraged
@@Boostlagg sure you could and let people hate on it, but have such a good amount of people who like it so you have defensive capabilities and not get cancelled.
Same, I just watched My Cousin Vinny and its pretty funny.1992
As someone who actually loves going to IMAX theaters, it is genuinely insane to me how expensive the movie theater has become. It's definitely a reason why large families - parents with 2+ kids - don't go to the theater. It's like $100 for 4 people to enjoy the movies with snacks.
You’re going to an IMAX theatre though, one of the most expensive spots to see new movies, so of course it’s going to be expensive. Besides, local movie theaters are much cheaper and you get more bang for your buck, despite not watching in 4K with high end leather seats.
@@shadowbug1811 It’s still way too expensive at most local theaters. It cost around $60 for 3 people ($14 per ticket) including snacks when I went last week with my family.
Look out for deals I just went yesterday with my freind group of 10 and tickets just cost over $60. I also have a membership with the theatre for discounts
14 per ticket is pretty average tho… what price do you think makes sense. Also… just bring your own snacks when you know for ages now movie theaters have overcharged on them
@@crow27837that’s why you buy snacks somewhere else and bring them into the theater
No one really mentions this, but I also think another big reason is video games. Movies were a one of a kind medium, but nowadays you can play a video game with movie quality storytelling and voice acting, and it’s interactive and immersive. Plus, you don’t need to go anywhere to play it, you just stay at home
Absolutely true. Furthermore, one good video game might cost a bit more than a trip to the theater. But not only does it often last longer than a movie, when you do the math on how much entertainment you're getting per dollar, it's absolutely no contest.
@@Isaiah_Rude0925more dopamine per dollar👌
Nope, games, even the most interactive ones like God of War, have nothing to do with movies, unless there is an actual research on this, it's just not believable in the slightest.
@TheKayShawn It's only speculation but you have a point. We don't know until there is research to back it up but I think it's a good claim. I'd rather play a video game than watch a movie. I wouldn't want to spend money on a movie unless it has good story telling.
@@bozardo101 most people aren’t gamers and most games require you to buy, download, install, have a good PC, and then play, whereas you just open your netflix on any device you have and start watching, hell of a difference, I do not think games have had any change at all on movies but I can be wrong, maybe there will be a research someday.
From what I’ve seen and heard from other people:
1. Lazy story writing
2. Not staying true to the source material
3. Ticket prices are EXPENSIVE (the theater when I live charges $11 a person😢)
4. DEI being forced in everyone’s face
5. Unlikeable characters
6. Cringy dialogue and characters
7. To much reliance on childish humor
The other thing to point out is that while there are thousands of stories that could be turned into films, the film industry has a huge problem with their less than mediocre recycling of film tropes.
Spider-Man ATSV is an example of this. It was well animated but gee, wasn’t it overrated! The story was a cliched mess with plot holes everywhere.
I could honestly watch it again due to the various details and Easter eggs, BUT I still scratch my head why people panned Elemental for the story but gave ATSV a free pass. It makes no sense. Spoilers:
First, you have your typical rebellious teenager story plot line. Then you have the fact every Spider-Man is propped up by human sacrifice in every f*ckin dimension? Lore wise it makes no sense because the existence of Spider-Man in itself is far more complex than what they portrayed in ATSV. They essentially dumbed down the lore for the sake of what exactly?
Honestly what a way to take away the power through responsibility principle and turning the story into an utter mess.
Don’t get me started on how a rookie like Miles outsmarted thousands of so called “genius” spider men/women with years and years, decades of experience during the escape scene.
I am ok if people didn’t like Elemental or Indiana Jones, but opinions make the world go round. Call the stories boring, or whatever, I don’t care. My only gripe is that people are essentially playing favorites. I hate this picking and choosing.
ATSV is hardly a masterpiece and certainly ain’t a 10/10 movie.
@@cbgg1585the entire movie was a cliffhanger. for me it was just eye candy. very good eye candy, mind you.
@@lahar2412As I said, WELL animated. The story was just utter horse $hit with or without part 2 incoming.
I saw Atsv in theaters and there was like 8 trailers before, I'm not kidding, all of them looked dogshit (some of them might be good but the trailers sucked). Rotten tomatoes and other review sites are also very popular now
@cbgg1585 look at you, trying to be all unique lol
As a movie theater employee myself, it is very noticeable how many people actually bother to show up. I’ve even been through several schedule changes because of how not so crowded it is
I went to the theater today and it was packed. Probably because of Indiana Jones.
@@nytrobros.4810 I see
@@nytrobros.4810same
Last time i went to a movie theater it caught on fire because someone was smoking and caught the carpet on fire
Last few times i went it was near empty, seen the last Scream, and The Barbarian. Was barely anybody in the lobby.
Wow this channel really answers all my difficult questions that no one else seems to have
It’s sad, because nothing can compare to see a movie on the big screen. But I haven’t gone to a movie in years, especially now that we can all wait until it comes out on a streaming platform. I think they should start giving people decent rewards like for every $50 you spend you get $5 off plus a free concession popcorn or soda. They need to find ways to get people in theaters again.
they do at amc, download AMC stubs! tuesdays only $6
Tarantino is right, we need to bring back the mid-budget movie. Some of the most beloved films of the past were mid-budget films. It allows the creators to have some creativity without having to worry about hitting it and it of the park every time.
Some mid-budget movies include: The Truman Show, Fight Club, and Moneyball
It’s cause those movie focus on a good script. U can’t hide behind fx.
Freaking love the Truman Show.
SO many romcoms were mid/low budget too and became cult classics
Spaceballs.
The thing with mid-budget movies is that they often depict everyday normal scenarios we can relate to.
Home Alone, it's just a kid at his house.
Pulp Fiction - it's just some criminals driving around doing crime.
Some of the most famous and loved films depict very mundane settings and are entirely driven by characters and plot. We don't need giant CGI monsters or huge visual spectacle.
I think the moment Marvel started releasing shows on Disney+ that tied directly with the movies is when they lost a lot of the fan base. It meant you had to watch mediocre tv shows to even understand what the hell was going on in some movies (my friend hadn’t seen WandaVision, so when he went to see Dr Strange 2 with me, he was like throughout “Why is Wanda here?” “Since when did she have kids?” “Why is she so angry and hurt?”)
Basically like watching Tokyo Ghoul Season 2 without reading the manga of the first season first.
Season 1 completely branches off from the manga in the second half then in Season 2 follows the manga again. Causing a lot of confusion with my friends at the time.
I think disneys problem is they keep trying so hard to be diverse to get more people to watch the movie than they are worrying about if the product is actually good.
@@k3salieri they should've gone the Blue Exorcist route. Season 2 just completely ignores whatever the fuck happened in the 2nd part of season 1, since the source material didn't exist yet.
It's literally homework. Dull boring crap that gets assigned for you to slog through so you can understand what's being discussed on the screen. Entertainment is fundamentally not supposed to work that way.
@@Soggywafflecakes I don’t think people have a problem with diversity per se. Arcane is one of the most diverse shows I’ve ever seen, and it’s phenomenal, but I agree that the main problem is that they hide behind diversity to excuse bad writing.
Im patient enough to wait to watch it at home and if i do go its only to see it in Imax/3D
You kind of touched upon it with ticket cost, but in general at large, budgeting and keeping up with life in the current day has been my main deterant for attending theaters. When my bills, food, gas, and routine is keeping me paycheck to paycheck, there's no reason to put any film as a priority.
There was a “dollar theatre” we went to when I was a kid. It was a discounted movie theatre that played movies slightly after actual theater release. My family went all the time. When it closed we went to a movie every like 6 months if that. It’s just too expensive
my family did the exact same thing
I miss dollar theaters, there was one I liked going to throughout my life, but I think COVID killed them off. Which sucks because you get the cinema experience but at a cheaper price. Heck, the food wasn't stupidly overpriced either.
Why would you give your hard earned money to pedos in hollywood ? Good question huh
The old dollar theaters were the best
I'm sorry for your loss...
That new Puss In Boots is a perfect example of exactly what new movies need to be. It was a sequel, something safe, but it was so creative and did a bunch of new things. Puss had chatacter development, and he had genuine problems throughout the movie like panic attacks and struggling with his own mortality. Extremely creative antagonists that didn't just "I was bad but now I'm good" at the end. They STAYED BAD.
I like this too. I want more villans that are just stubbornly bad and stay that way. I like to think about walter white. Despite everything crumbling down around him, he stayed true to his own shitty ideals as a drug lord.
Exactly that, your point about the villains staying bad is perfect. I do like a redemption arc sometimes, but I’m getting tired of having them in every movie.
I really feel like a good example of how to a redemption arc right is The Winter Soldier. He was bad, had his mind control broken through in a legitimately intelligent and convincing way, and then turned good. However, AFTER Bucky turned good, he struggled with the deeds of what he did while he was bad. This is something a lot of redemption arcs miss, and that’s what makes them lacklustre. It’s legit “I was bad but now I’m good” and not enough “what have I done?”
A good example to me of a bad guy staying bad to the end is David from The Last of Us, but specifically in the show. He was fighting Ellie in a BURNING BUILDING and still was going to do what he wanted to do until she killed him. He was willing to put his life aside just to be an evil son of a bitch. As terrible of a person as David is, he’s a wonderfully written character.
Some characters deserve to be irredeemable, like The High Evolutionary or Micah Bell from Red Dead Redemption II. Others deserve redemption. It’s just that studios have a huge problem deciding who deserves redemption, and if they do, how to do it well.
I was trying to tell my sibling this and they all laughed at me at our Fourth of July picnic. Really made me feel bad
I agree but can someone tell me why death is considered to be evil if it is just a natural thing?
@@BoginTheOrange I’d say he’s considered evil because of his particular anger towards cats for having nine lives
There are so many reasons. Tickets are so expensive, people are really busy, movie marketing just isn't good anymore, saturation of movies
This is why in the future I’m gonna try too get a good home theater type set up, and a popcorn maker with the ingredients to make movie theater popcorn.
It honestly hurts that I now expect new movies to be horrible as opposed to good, and when a new movie does well I get unfathomably baffled
Almost like finding a good new movie is a treasure hunt, it's buried underneath a ton of crap movies, and ya need to find and dig it out of that pile
It's so rare to see a good new movie nowadays
Transformers ROTB was good, and it’s not even a month old
Just blockbusters, there are plenty of good new movies that don't come from the big guys
@@SCREAMshot6781 theres 1 movie in the horizon that im actually excited for and that Dune part 2, that shit is gonna be lit
Honestly, if we get even one more movie that goes as hard as Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, we should let DreamWorks do whatever the hell the hell they want.
my farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
Not after Ruby Gillman. That film was painful to watch.
I'm better than bots and scammers and tompussies here
Spiderverse 2 and Puss 2 hard carrying the western animation scene this yr
Man, every reply to every comment is just bots
Writers, Directors and Producers are no longer hired in modern Hollywood, they are cast. Based on their optics, external characteristics and previous activism.
Not being able to hear a pin drop is the best
What I also hate is the amount of reboots and remakes of old movies being made. We're living in a purgatory where we're just experiencing a newer version of an old movie in an endless cycle
feels like some ploy to retcon and cultivate some intergenerational compartmentalization....
I like reboots. It brings attention to the older versions and allows new generations to explore something they originally would never have. Even if the movie flops, the discovery of the original is totally worth it
Ex: charlie and the chocolate factory :) thats my fav
Yeah and then female version after that. It’s so annoying. (Coming from a female) Nothing is original anymore - some things are but you know what I mean.
Yall remember Ghostbusters 2016?
I do i wish i could forget it.
@@megmc80basically that’s how most movies are now. take a franchise, make a sequel, kill the main character, replace it with the female lead that nobody likes and is basically invisible and keep making movies with that character. A lot of the directors basically use the characters as a self insert for what they want to see themselves do rather than being a character.
The motto, “ Give the people what they want” is no longer followed by creators. In some cases, it’s literally the opposite. Then they wonder what went wrong.
The fact that some directors and writers have gone on record and openly bragged that they didn't consume or study the source material when making remastered works or derivative adaptations is truly pathetic.
"PEOPLE WANT THEIR EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED! Ruin all their heroes! Crap on all their franchises! It's art!"
- Idiots in the film industry
@@BlazingOwnagerExactlyyy like how killing off characters is just so expected and never shocking at this point. They all try to do it for shock value or thinking it’ll make them special when everyone is expecting it and it only makes people lose interest. Idk how they’re just not understanding they don’t have to kill every single character people like to make a good movie.
Well the people keep crying that nothing is like what it's used to be . Talking about how movies back then were better then we get remakes . Also the people don't know what they want .
@@tesytes318people do know what they want. It’s modern era elitist Hollywood that refuses to give people what they want in favor or a newer more inclusive/progressive movie landscape that belittles all their beloved characters
I’m surprised no one has mentioned asteroid city yet. That movie was excellent, artistic, and very creative. It’s a shame it didn’t get the attention it deserved
It’s not excellent. It’s safe, generic, typical Wes Anderson shit and I think people are finally picking up on it.
@@davemac9563🤝
Replace the words safe and generic with bad and this take is spot on 😂
People are finally becoming smart enough to distinguish which movies are trying to pander, and which movies are actually trying to tell a story. Of course we'd always choose the one trying to tell a story.
I don't know man, Fast X doesn't seem like a great story😅
Na, most ppl aren’t that smart and prefer an adrenaline rush to a real story.
@@hamburgler227 Tetris this year was pretty good, and it was more story than anything that would classify as an "adrenaline rush".
Sadly, Its not like that. Its simply because of streaming services and everyone getting access to it. And to add to this... Believe it or not, a few years ago, not everyone had internet. Now even the poorest of the poor can have access.
So by pander your mean “have a progressive message”
When countless movies with no progressive messaging still bomb
My biggest fear with movie theaters is that they'll slowly start closing down and there'll be hardly any left. Then many years later they're brought back as a type of nostalgia trip(i.e. roller skating rinks). I'd hate to see this happen because I still love going to the theater, because there really isn't a better place to watch new movies (in terms of picture and audio). If your not wanting to go out of your way to go to the cinema due to cost that's understandable. I just wish we had better quality films coming out so they'd deserve to be seen in a theater(i.e. Spiderverse). I can say without doubt the best way to watch Spiderverse is in a theater.
I predict that it will happen soon. We are currently witnessing the death of cinema, as how the generations before witnessed the death of the drive-in.
@@adumate6543And video rental stores
personally unless its one of those 3D or 4D movies, nothing at a movie theatre cant be done better at home easier. Most people already can get a better experience at home with just their TV than they can at a movie theatre. Without a "home theatre" setup. Unless you've got a CRT or something at home, lights you cant turn off, speakers that dont work, and you have the worlds most uncomfortable couch; Theatres that arent doing special effects offer absolutely nothing.
It happened to Drive-in Movie Theaters.
Theaters have a niche in that they show indie project, foreign films, or small non hollywood movies that aren't worldwide releases. Usually they are for one night or weekend but it's still a purpose I don't see being replaced
People want to be entertained not lectured
movies don't do this
@@beerlover343 lol i think it's time to get out from under that rock of yours
Then Barbenheimer happened.
As someone who works at a theater, this is true. 12 dollar tickets and 7 dollars for a soft drink, 10 dollars for popcorn. Just 2 people that's about 50 dollars and not even full yet. It's really expensive to go.
I went to go watch the new insidious movie. It wasn’t bad but it also wasn’t great, so many plot holes and it felt a bit lazy. 6/10 for me.
I spent 20 bucks on the damn popcorn and large drink combo, I felt like I got so ripped off. On top of that they have me a cup that was bent towards the top. When I filled my drink and when to put the top on, it didn’t fit and it kept falling off, I couldn’t get a new cup cuz I already filled this cup. Every time I would hold the drink the cover would pop off. Then when we are watching the movie I get caught off guard by the first jump scare and spilled half my popcorn on the floor 😢 I know the last bit was my fault lol but still, overall not a great experience and it’s felt like this for a while now.
I went to watch a movie with a girl I bought the tickets and I was buying the snacks, little did I know she was going to order a large popcorn and two large drinks, it was about fifty dollars for me to go to a movie with a girl, and I didn’t even make a move
12! Shit here is 19 dollars for ticket(except tuesdays, its 15), 8 for a drink, and 10 or 12 for popcorn. Candy is like 5 and thats a stretch.
@@dontnonowuno9953skill issue
@@ILLUSI_O_N-V1 movie theatre sucks buy firestick
For me, movie theaters used to be a fun, easy night out I could have with friends a few times a month. Now, it’s an event, and it costs more than double what it used to. Plus, Charlie hit it on the head, there just isn’t a ton of stuff being made for theaters that interests me enough to pay those exorbitant prices. With how expensive everything else is nowadays, movie theaters just aren’t worth it anymore.
Doubly expensive when food and snacks cost double the ticket sometimes
I'll just wait so I can eat at home and watch it on demand
I think that combined with how long theatres were shut down and made people realize "Oh hey, we were marketed these big ass TV's to us for a reason" really sucked a lot of reason to actually go to a theatre.
If you live in a big expensive city, it has been an "event" for a while. But, I agree it has gotten worse. The tickets were $25 for 3 adults (the theatres were running a promo), yet the food was $50...(large popcorn, coke, and taxes). This was last year, I do not plan on going to a movie theatre anytime soon.
are they that expensive though? i'm from australia and tickets cost around $20 here (about 15 usd), which is perfectly fine for going to the movies once a week
Used to have 5$ ticket Tuesdays around where I live. Plus free (small) popcorn if you were a part of their free loyalty program. Miss those days of seeing a movie with a drink and popcorn for like 10 bucks
The only time I ever go to a cinema is when someone goes out of their way to invite me. I just don't watch a ton of movies these days.
I'm watching this while getting ready for Barbinheimmer
I think a big factor is Hollywood has gotten addicted to blockbusters. So they keep putting a lot of there efforts into high budget movies hoping for high returns. Instead of just going for success.
That's nothing new. Hollywood favoring big blockbusters has been a thing since blockbusters. And now, what's the alternative? The ONLY movies that do well in theaters now are blockbusters, anything else people don't bother to show up because they know they'll just be able to stream it later on.
And, "Instead of just going for success"? What does that even mean??
I have no idea what you were going for here but it made no sense to me. They don't care until WE don't care.
Define success though
What does that even mean? Is a successful movie not a blockbuster? A movie having a high budget is not the same thing at all as being a blockbuster.
block·bust·er
nounINFORMAL
a thing of great power or size, in particular a movie, book, or other product that is a great commercial success.
"the latest Hollywood blockbuster"
So what you're saying is that Hollywood has stopped making successful movies in the pursuit of making successful movies. Ah yes, now I understand. Why would the goal of the film industry ever be to NOT make successful movies? Wtf? How does your comment have 500 likes?
That's not. It's the woke agenda. The Mary Sue. The need to down the male lead. Real filmmakers are far and few between because nobody would hire them. People only want to put money behind things that won't offend anyone. U can't entertain people without offending somebody.
So nice to see the lead actor in The Hunger Games sharing wisdom on the art of filmmaking
exactly
Funny😐😐😐😐
why u gotta be rude man @@TheDeathvice187 🤣
I remember when the cost of a ticket was minimal, and something extra was money that was crumbled in your pocket. Now if you want to enjoy something with the movie, by the time you are done it often costs more then the ticket price.
2:37 had this exact experience at AMC when I saw infinity pool. Except I didn’t realize it was Dasani until the purchase went through. And even tho the Dasani was MORE expensive then the smaller smart water I went with and they wouldn’t let me exchange it so they had to get the manager and do a refund. Best part was I only had $10 and the refund wasn’t instant. So I only had $2 left in my bank and my friend had to buy the fooking water.
Disney used to do fairly large promotion campaigns but they've had this philosophy that their movies sell themselves as of late. With so much online content and online content improving in quality, these major film companies need to realise that they aren't just inherently above any of that competition and have to compete for people to watch. Ruby Gillman was another "I'm a normal person but i have a weird quirk" thing and Elemental was another "cute down to earth pixar thing with non-human characters having their own little world and feelings." To succeed, these companies need to not only sell themselves more and in a more compelling way but have an idea that breaks some new ground too.
Thing is, the Pixar problem kinda started back when Inside Out was a thing. I never liked that movie, and I couldn't see why it was so popular. Now, it seems that's all Pixar is focusing on. "What obscure thing can we give feelings today?" I'm just snoozing at these new releases lol..
@@nomoretwitterhandlesinside out was a great film tho. Honestly. I look inside our emotions and how memories also are effected by emotions.
Elemental is just "What if X had feelings" number 1347.
For real, though. A lot of Disney’s movies these days I don’t hear about until shortly before it releases. I had no idea Encanto was a thing until just a few weeks before it came out and wouldn’t have seen it if it weren’t for streaming. The lack of promotion just shows me that they don’t have confidence in their products.
ill do it for us a short text to dumb us back down again😶
As someone that works at a movie theater, I’ve only sold 4 tickets to Ruby Gillman and didn’t even know that it existed until someone bought a ticket
Are you all not being constantly bombarded with ads about it??
@@DeathnoteBB never heard of it, it might be a location thing though edit: went to the movies, saw one screening of it and one 3 sec ad lol
I watched it earlier today. It was all right, nothing special, but not a bad movie by any means
@@DeathnoteBB it was mostly the first trailer and everybody going wild about the movie for about a week that I knew anything about the movie, also it's kinda funny seeing it flop after everyone hyping up DreamWorks just because they made two good movies back to back recently
I've just now learned that there was a new DreamWorks movie at all
I require the ability to pause the movie every 30 minutes.
2:49 With those outrageous prices I'll never feel bad about sneaking in a can of beer and a pack of peanut m&m's I bought at the supermarket.
Don't you just love how in the last years we've got film after film, literally digging out corpses of concluded franchises. Even Pixar couldn't even wait more than 4 years before reopening toy story's coffin with a new sequel
As long as theres dead horses laying around, you can be sure hollywood already has the stick in his hands to beat it till nothing is left...
Hollywood woke.
Hollywood bad.
Hollywood stinky.
Hollywood stupid.
(Did I miss the bandwagon guys?🤓)
Disney wants them to flop so people will buy real disney movies again
I get the feeling it's all about minimizing risks, trimming all the fat, trying to get the most out of doing the least. No new ideas, just rehashed canned products. It's the same in music where you have all these made-up stars that get their texts written by that one Swedish guy and keep pumping the same stale sh*t over and over again.
Wait, they made a new Toy Story?
I think this is part of why everyone is so excited for Barbie and Oppenheimer. They both feel like actual Film Events that are worth going out for, and even though they're about pre-existing things (a popular toy and a real person), they still feel fresh and genuinely interesting as opposed to a lot of films lately that just feel phoned in. The movies opening on the same day is just the cherry on top.
barbie looks tacky and over hyped to hell and back
Oppenheimer yeah, but Barbie? Ffs.
@@mastermill79 from what ive read the plot for barbie seems to be expected to be quite interesting, self aware, and good quality, with vibes of (a somewhat lighter hearted) truman show. I think it has potential
@@mastermill79Believe it or not, yes lol
They already fucked Barbie right up with the woke agenda. The movie starts where EVERYBODY is Barbie every color of person is a Barbie. Every color of man is a Ken. It's stupid as shit. I took my kid to Little Mermaid and she hated it. She's 3. We are not racist but she's like Daddy why is this little mermaid black? I had no way to answer her question. All I could muster was, I Really don't know?
Someone mentioned in a post i was responding to that movies used to be more risky. The way movies were made was not based on what you WANTED. They could focus on making things that people can enjoy because it was good. Now it is about knowing what you want and using that to get away with garbage. Cinema is turning into "be careful what you wish for.".
Peoples home setup have changed. I have a big tv, great 5.1 surround sound, comfortable reclining couch, any food and drink i want and i can pause the movie to use the bathroom. And best of all, there isn't 30 other people that won't shut the hell up.
Going to the theater for me is more of a hassle, for a worse experience.
Curious to see how Oppenheimer, Mission Imp, Barbie, and Dune end up performing at the box office - all original/nostalgic storylines.
I’m looking forward to Oppenheimer. I just hope there’s no historical revisionism that’s so prevalent in movies these days.
Meh, the first dune movie was overhyped like Black Panther.
i hope oppenheimer does well. It looks good.
Barbie is guaranteed to be shit
@@lonestarrk9308hey'll definitely try to sprinkle modern politics into it if there is an investor who bases their whole personality around it, but I'm cautiously optimistic to see Oppenheimer in theatres
There's a lot of reasons why "Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken" bombed. It's a kids movie without much adult appeal, so that narrows down the audience. It also opened during a packed movie season where more crowds are going to want to see familiar franchises like Transformers or Spiderverse than take a gamble on an animated movie that looks like a wetter version of Trolls. It's also a sea life-themed movie coming out only weeks after Little Mermaid, so there probably isn't a demand for more of that.
Also, other than one trailer, I haven't seen any promotion for this outside of theaters. People aren't going to see a movie that they don't know exists! The most common reaction to this movie flopping was that nobody had heard of it,. It probably could have done better with a later release date and with more promotion. Dreamworks has mostly themselves to blame.
i agree with the advertising, the only time i ever saw a trailer was when i was in the theater before watching spiderverse.
@@RyusutaI had to Google that. Thank God you're only half right
@@Ryusuta as of today, international gross was $243,744,758. Combined with the Domestic Gross of $281,241,145... we're at $524,985,903 combined, which is at the low end of estimates for a "break even" point (not profit, just paying off what they spent to make/advertise the film)
@@Ryusuta hummm not sure about this the overall gross is 526 millions. China has rejected that movie and international box office did not pass expectation. Is only here in America the movie generated most revenue. You can correct me on this one if you know better.
It’s also just kinda ugly looking tbh
Since the government said there was a world wide pandemic, and by law told me it was illegal to go into movie theatres, and restaurants. I stopped going, and have just never gotten back into going to a theatre, and buying ten dollar popcorn. Haven't been in a restaurant, or theatre since February 2020.
I used to work for Carmik Cinemas before they got bought out and I can tell you movie theaters do not make money from selling tickets. They only revenue they make comes from what they sell at the concession stand.
Something I don't see many others talking about is how big TV shows have gotten. While they haven't replaced movies completely, it does feel like that's the focus for many of the big studios. It just feels like it's so easy to find a new amazing show I havent heard of, but difficult to find a great new movie.
personally, since tv shows are so long, i get more invested in the story/characters and it will be more impactful. After finishing the last season of a series, I almost get sad. like losing a friend lol
I'm rewatching boba Fett rn lol
@@zwro5045totally agree, but with an additional observation: some series are too long. Not every story needs 6-10 episodes. Seems like a lot of the “documentaries” Netflix has have been intentionally stretched out to get more content but it at the expense of making it boring.
TV is dying too, has been for years
@@chrism4008network tv but now shows on streaming
As someone who used to work at a movie theater, I learned why the concessions were always so expensive. As the studios raise the prices of their movie tickets, we have to raise the prices of concessions as well. Employees who work at a movie theater don't make any money off tickets sold, all that money goes straight to the studios who license the movies to the theaters. Concessions are the only commission theaters make, and how they are able to pay their employees. It is still ridiculous though, when I worked there it was $4.75 for a Dasani, $8 is outrageous.
Even back then, couples, especially older ones, would wander in an a whim to see a movie, then hear the prices and say "Never mind, we can watch something at home." And turn around and leave. So I agree with Charlie, as tickets get more expensive, less people are interested in going to see just anything, and with less people, the concessions get more expensive to pay the employees, and it's kind of spiraling to its doom.
Any normal movie theater ticket sales are pretty much split 50/50 with the theater and the studio that made the movie
@@capybara9802no lol There's a reason a lot of theaters are struggling and why say Disney or WB hasn't created their own theater. There's very little profit in it.
@@capybara9802it’s not 50/50, not even close, they do make money from tickets though but most of the money is made from concessions. Also as the movie gets older, the cinema gets more in terms of ticket sales but not that helpful considering most watch a film earlier in its cycle.
@@Antwannnn I’m not sure how you thought I was trying to say movie theaters are profitable from that comment, all I’m saying is that they do make money from ticket sales, all the money doesn’t go strait to the studios.
@@capybara9802 This isn't remotely true - you shouldn't speak so authoritatively on something you don't understand. Studios will often take 80 or 90% of the ticket sales for the first 3 weeks or so. The longer the movie plays the percentage starts to even out and can eventually reach the 50/50 split. No studio is offering theaters 50% of tickets sales on a new release ever.
"Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken" is a title I might have come up with if I was trying to parody garbage movie premises.
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I've been working at a movie theater for 3 years and I can relate to a lot of what is said in your videos about the latest movies coming out. People come and are constantly complaining and it's understandable, they went out of their way to come to the theater, they bought expensive tickets and even more expensive junk food only to be disappointed of the movie. When movies like Avatar way of the water, Mario, Spider-man across the spiderverse and Spider-man No way home came out, people were thrilled and came out of the room super hyped and couldn't stop talking about this and that and omg remember that scene!? And now I see people come out and just leave without a word. I think people are still attached to the experience of going to see a good movie and hearing everyone be hyped with you in the auditorium and out of it, but are constantly disappointed which will slowly make the movie theaters disappear.
This comment is literally how I feel. And the exact movies you named were the ones I was super hyped for and talked hours about them with my friends. It’s such a amazing feeling to see good movies. And I’m literally scrolling through the movie theater movies to see a good one release.
I find your observations as a theater employee insightful and interesting. I've studied Cinema in college, years ago, and I understand the potential the movie theater experience has to elevate the art and craft of big screen cinema. Unfortunately, for many, many, reasons what we're seeing come out of Hollywood is rarely meeting the ticket price expectations that consumers have. Yes, making movies is a big business, with stakeholders who have expected returns on their investment so risk is minimized while trying to maximize reward. Why are so many movies remakes, repackaging, pre-quals, sequels or even ongoing versions of an established franchise? because there's less risk when you have an proven storyline or cast. The reason Adam Sandler still has a career is because his movies are cheap and pretty much have a guaranteed audience who want to see a 90s SNL cast reunion on the big screen that's relatively funny and entertaining. Are they good movies? thats open for interpretation, but they make a set amount of money that's pretty well predicted before shooting begins. On the other hand, investing $500 Million over years of development into a blockbuster like Avatar: the Way of water is still a gamble that studios have little interest in taking when Sandler movies make a consist amount for a fraction of the cost and little risk. Personally, I'll take a trip to the theater to see movies that have had the money invested in a serious sound track and image resolution to ensure an immersive experience (Ex. Top Gun 2) that's only possible on the big screen versus my 85" 4K TV at home. Unfortunately, the theater is also were the $20 popcorn and $8 Cokes and all the idiots come out to talk during the movie or use there phone which ruins the experience. Yes, I like the theater experience, but I like the ability to control my surrounding and actually enjoy a movie instead of being frustrated by an ever increasing level of public stupidity.
I enjoyed Avatar: The Way of Water but honestly it could have only been a two hour movie. There was no reason it needed to be three fucking hours.
@@jefffaller8474 enjoy watching entertainment in my own surroundings too. I didn't pay $20+ for tickets and possibly over $15 for food to hear the people four seats down from me talking during the whole fucking movie or hearing a kid (who clearly should not be seeing the same movie I am seeing) keeps asking his parents stupid ass questions throughout the whole movie because he is a kid in a rated R movie. People are annoying and no matter how many acne ridden teenagers they get to sweep and scrub those floors, they are never getting that damn sticky spot of spilled Dr. Pepper off of that floor.
That being said, there are some really well kept theaters that offer patrons drinks and even like, full meals for the movie. Some family, friends, and I went to one a few years back in Northern California and I ordered a couple of cocktails and some buffalo wings to have during the movie. I can't even remember what movie we saw but the experience was awesome and memorable and I thought "Europe's been doing this shit for years. Why the fuck don't we do that here in the States?" and then I remembered "Oh, yeah. A lot of our people suck and can't be trusted to do the right fucking thing or control themselves with an ounce of dignity or respect."
Anyway. I do appreciate being in the comfort of my own other-people-free surroundings.
Those movies came out recently so what are you talking about
I think that if studios invested less on big actors and sfx, then movies would have to rely more on writing for success, and we'd be more interested as audiences. And if it doesn't do as well as they hoped, it's not as huge a loss.
More concisely: They're spending too much on making movies. Make cheaper movies. Reduce ticket prices. Get a bigger audience.
This rings true when you think about Avatar, James Cameron told an A-List actor that the story could function just fine without them. That anyone could play the role. And he was right. Saved a shitload on just the main character.
They are spending more money on SFX, but Mavrick and Mario destroyed those movies except Avatar. You do touch on the issue, tho. They just need better writing.
Every business wants that "no way it can fail guarantee" and if that means you gotta put Chris Pratt in the movie, or Margot Robbie, or The Rock, or Steven Segal, or whoever. It's worth it to them.
And it's our fault as viewers because people will actually go watch a movie just because an actor they know is in it. We'll also skip them if we don't know any of the actors.
Cameron obviously already has exposure because people will definitely watch a movie because of a well known director. And they made it like everyone was waiting on Avatar 2 to drop for like 10 years, even tho most of the current generation probably didn't even see Avatar 1 when it was this incredible cinema experience everyone had to see. I mean who actually thought about Avatar before the marketing for part 2 started? I know I didn't.
I think that's the main point. It's very baffling how I've seen animations that probably needed a grain of sand of the budget that big studios have to come to life.
The cost of course is in time, and big studios like pushing out movies like an assembly line every quarter.
Like, if the companies are in the interest of cost cutting, how about start by cost cutting on the most unnecessary and expensive garbage that only fluffs the movie visually but not artistically (it just makes it look more AI generated ironically).
@@corruptfaith6674 very different between sfx being the selling point i.e Avatar and the Mario movie and it not being the selling point i.e most other live action movies
"really exercise my noodle" 😂
As someone who works in the theater industry, specifically with box office and showtimes, I think the real issue is that companies simply aren’t making products the consumers want. Most people’s reaction to elemental was that it was basic, and didn’t serve any real purpose or provide any reason to go see it. Then, there’s films like Indiana Jones 5, with scathing early reviews, and coming from a company that has destroyed pretty much every other legacy property they have. If you actually look at box office returns, if there is a good and interesting movie out, there is an audience. Spiderverse is killing it, Guardians 3 did great, and Puss in Boots 2 did fantastic. The similarity between the three of these is that they were well received movies that gained interest through word of mouth. These days, most people have realized that a lot of movies coming out are just the same stuff, many even just pumping out trash with the assumption that people will instantly buy into it. When Marvel started doing that, mainly last year, it made many people much more skeptical about seeing if a movie is genuinely worth it or not, and most movies simply aren’t. People are wising up, and are refusing to digest the sludge companies come out. If companies want people to actually go see their movies, they need to write and produce good movies.
We’ll said brother
My problem with movies now is they're just boring and are so routine. We all used to make fun of Adam Sandler movies back in the day because they were all basically the same. But that's basically how all movies are now. It's all just a formula. There's very little personality. It's always just "crank out another of something that has been time-tested and done to death" or rebooting an old IP (generally with a movie that doesn't advance the IP in any way and just regurgitates shit... like the Terminator movies or most one-off remakes of horror movies)
Like, honestly, I've been out of touch with movies for years. I DO wanna rewatch the early MCU up until to a point... but even those movies eventually get boring. To someone who's not a comic book guy, you watch the earlier MCU movies and they just feel really innovative and memorable as movies. But then I've had times where I've been to a friends house and they show one of the later MCU films I haven't seen and it's just [insert character here] but stylistically and structurally they feel the same as any marvel movie
And I know that's just Marvel movies but like... beyond that, that's my problem lol. It gets even less interesting. I don't care for Disney or Pixar's modern animated movies, I just don't. I mean, I guess I'm also different from most people because I was never big into those kinds of movies even as a kid. But like, usually a lot of these movies tend to have some kind of gimmicky aesthetic or setting attached as "window dressing" of sorts, but then you look at the plot of the movie and it's basically the same as every other pixar/disney movie. The setting for many animated films is generally more interesting than the content of the movie itself, but the setting is undermined by the fact that the entire thing is a device to convey some extremely generic moral or lesson that is probably so dumb and basic that kids don't even learn anything from it. On top of it, the jokes in these movies.
And I'm sick of action/drama movies that try to look 'gritty' but come off bland. I think you know what I'm talking about. Big gruff guys with no personality, shaky cam, 'realistic fight scenes' that come off as uncoordinated and lacking any interesting technique or choreography to them. Compare this shit to the action movies of the 80s or any martial arts flick or any john woo flick and basically adult action movies nowadays suck. The plotlines are often so generic too... like the Taken movies. I've heard of people liking those? But literally the premise of the movie is the most plain thing ever
Like just give me something that looks cool with a cool style, interesting gimmick, some personality, and for fuck's sake just be creative. All I want to do basically is watch older movies and avoid the newer ones. Nothing nowadays compares to things like, OG Terminator, Aliens, the Matrix, the James Bond movies, etc. Even movies when I was a teen (so like, 2008 to 2014 maybe) were more interesting than the shit that came out. I've seen one-off sci-fi flicks like, Edge of Tomorrow, Oblivion, etc. Even then they were coming up with shit. Nowadays... no one has any kind of creative or artistic mind at all.
Don't forget the massive Top Gun Maverick!
It earned an unbelievable amount of money it was just an amazing movie.
100%agree
Yea it seems like Charlie, along with most people have really low standards (which is why we got here in the first place). I mean he just said Indiana Jones is a totally fine movie but you forget it on the drive home. Forgetting a movie on the drive homes makes it objectively bad. Acting like the movies are pricing people out despite literally every movie thats actually liked getting everyone and their mother into the theater to see it is strange. Top Gun, Mario, Spiderverse, even Avatar 2 all resulted in absolutely packed theaters.
The brain drain in Hollywood and many other media industries has been so massive in the 21st century and it's sad to see people still missing this. I basically only watch movies from before I was born (2004) because they're so much better written. I can barely stand to sit through the horribly cringey dialogue in modern movies and when I can it's usually because a classic film franchise gets revived and isn't changed that much like with Top Gun.
As someone who has worked at 2 movie theatres, and are the only two jobs I’ve had, you’re absolutely correct about the outrageous prices. At my current theatre, we are supposed to charge for refills of both popcorns and drinks as well. I don’t though lol
Noah, you're fired!
It’s y people sneak in food
Right. That's why I bring food with me
you're a G for that, thank you for your service
I salute you, a true patriot!
Tickets at the theater I go to are 10$ and I just bring my own snacks
This man is the living "comic book guy from the Simpsons" referencing anything just to make us laugh and it works. 😂😂😂
I think a very large factor is how the movies spend their funding and the overall laziness of production. They spend significantly more money than older movies and don't have anything to show for it. The original Indiana Jones movies traveled all across the world to film scenes with less of a budget than today's which used almost completely green screen.
Thats because of inflation. They need to pay their workers a livable wage and Animation studio workers are not paid that amazingly to begin with. The problem is ultimately how out of control the economy is. People can't afford to go see movies anymore, and they are getting too expensive to make because of inflation as well.
@@merleawe_That’s why the main comment wasn’t talking about animation. They said that the films were shot on-location with practical effects , not green screen animation. And the films looked better back then. Modern films suck.
That's the thing, why pay millions of dollars for cgi when it's cheaper to use practical effects? The movie studios are lazy.
Across the spiderverse is a perfect example of getting people to get up and go to movies. Yes, I do think ppl are going to movies less because of how convenient it is but I think movies actually have to be good now in order to get people to go. Its probably both people are not really going to movies AND movies are getting worse
Exactly, even with already built audiences, people are not going to movies as much. examples are thor love and thunder and doctor strange and the multiverse of madness. They both also bombed.
@@hoodzieboythor love and thunder was what killed superhero movies for me because of how painful it was to watch. Legitimately was unfunny and just downright cringe.
Spiderverse was really dumb ngl
@@hoodzieboyDoctor Strange performed very well. You're thinking of Quantumania, that's the one that bombed
That and paying ridiculous amounts to see the movie and to get food there. There is so much more than I can do with 50+ dollars than watch a movie that in a month will be on a streaming play form that I likely already have
Anyone notice he has the same cadence and vocal tone as Keanu Reeves?
Meanwhile Oppenheimer has IMAX theaters maxed out for weeks 😱
As someone who worked at a theater until COVID hit, that was the suckerpunch to the industry. Big movies got delayed years, then got pushed out before things were normal because no one had any idea if there would be another window of opportunity, and now the stuff we're seeing was started during COVID, so not a lot of risks could really be taken. I think it's gonna take another couple years for the industry as a whole to truly recover.
Add onto that the fact that movies are getting pushed to streaming so fast, there’s not that push to go to the theatre when you can watch it on digital in like a 8 weeks (maybe a little longer at worst) especially in our current economy, it just makes more financial sense to watch at home.
Crazy looking back on how people overreacted to something that was never that deadly.
It's actually the forced propaganda and sjw agendas forced at the audience in big budget movies like anything disney touches that people are correctly getting sick and tired of, it's nauseating.
For me, its simply the writing. Hollywood has gotten lazy and started hiring hack activists instead of paying the extra cash for some competent, proven writers. That's why so many movies are remakes now, and why audiences are routinely rejecting them. Give us better written content, and we'll come back to theaters. But half the remakes and shows on D+ could've been written by an AI.
plus they are all just woke
This happened in the late 60's. Hollywood exects had a stranglehold on the creative direction of films and kept trying to pump out the same generic comedies and musicals. They flopped and the execs were desperate enough to cede more control to the directors to make what they wanted. It led to a boom of creative film making in the 70's
Except if they keep a tight grip, complete outsiders will take over.
Most films of the 70s themselves weren’t hits or memorable thoughts that’s due to the style of the films
what's your favorite non flavored water?
Watching this after my 10th screening of mission impossible dr part one
Movie theaters used to be a fun, easy night out I could have with friends a few times a month. Now, it’s an event, and it costs more than double what it used to. Also, Charlie hit it on the head, there just isn’t a ton of stuff being made for theaters that interests me enough to pay those exorbitant prices. With how expensive everything else is nowadays, movie theaters just aren’t worth it.
Literally pirate movies and get a big tv. They are legally scamming everyone
Not to mention movies look like trash at theaters compared to good modern tvs in 4k. The motion blur in theater screens is disgusting.
This!
Yeah, I now only go to movie theaters if the movie is worth getting appreciated for or if I need the full experience to fully enjoy the movie like Spiderverse with their unique artstyle or avatar with their astonishing CGI.
Ive only went to see spiderverse
Me and like 3 people were well over a hundred dollars almost 2 with the popcorn and drinks
Id rather just buy popcorn and watch it at home at this point and invite people its way cheaper
I spend most my time watching 80's and 90's films. But I do go to the cinema for Big Films that I feel are worth it.
I do the same but with music. I feel the music industry has also been unoriginal in the last decade.
@@KraXoomnah, you just aren’t looking hard enough. You have preferences and that’s okay, but there’s more music now than there has ever been.
@@KraXoommusic now is far more original than music before, you’re crazy!
@@kafka315he probably refers to the mainstream. Back in the 80s, what was hitting the pop mainstram was Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Queen and others. They all had their very strong touches, all trying new sounds and new themes. The mainstream today has become as lazy as the movies, but if you look hard enough you find new experimental musical bands and you find A24 for movies.
Most of the “big” films these days are NOT worth it and are typically among the worst movies of the year.
Nerdrotic has explained what's been going on in Hollywood thoroughly over on his channel. Not only did the modern movie star expose themselves as horrible human beings, the big production companies stopped hiring talented writers and started hiring activists and unqualified POC.
Sound of silence very good too
I can assure everyone Oppenheimer will not flop. The word of mouth alone for this movie is insane
I saw a trailer for it, and as soon as I saw "A Christopher Nolan film", I knew I was going to see it.
It's a Nolan movie, he almost never makes a bad movie
Considering the state of the world, and increasing threat of war. I guarantee this movie was made for a reason. There's definitely an underlying message in the film, or propaganda. Keep in mind that world leaders have underground bunkers. They will press that button. If anything for depopulation.
This didn't age well... People walked out of the movie because of how much it drags the actual plot of the movie which is Oppenheimer's security clearance which is not what people thought they were going to see.
It's well crafted but overrated for sure
Puss In Boots 2 was a movie so good, it was the first time I’d gone to a theater to see a movie completely alone. It’s probably the most special experience I’ve had seeing a movie and I don’t think it would’ve been the same had I gone with others.
I wish i got to see it alone. It just feels so personal. Very good movie.
I'm so glad I went with a very close friend to see it. Like you said, it's a special experience. I was expecting a great movie from what I heard, but Puss in Boots 2 was beyond that 🩷
Wtf is this some new meme?
That movie was so weak to me. I liked Mario brothers
That movie is the only film that competes with Spiderverse. The action, colors, characters, and Death, all were so good and they made fun of fairytales along the way. They should really do that with superheroes except we got The Boys and I'm satisfied with that result.
Oh hey, here’s a guy that runs real fast. I can’t wait to arm-flap like I’m on SBSK about it.
I still live for seeing movies in the theatre
I think one of the main reasons for Elemental and Ruby Gillman's failure, is the fact that the trailers the produced pretty much told you the whole story. I watched all trailers for elemental, and the movie really didn't expand upon them. Which is a horrible thing to even say, because a movie isn't meant to expand upon the trailer. I believe there needs to be a huge revamp in how companies market their movies.
I heard that the trailers did a terrible job at showing what the movie was. It was like one of those trailers like "Silence of the Lambs but it's a Romantic Comedy" as far as how off it was.
Elemental can't be considered a failure yet because it hasn't even been released in most countries yet.
the trailers were awful for Elemental. I went into it ready to sleep, but I was genuinely engaged into a great movie from start to finish. The random buddy next to me getting a blowjob didn't even distract me. Do not watch Ruby Gilman though if you value your time.
@@IlikeTrainsguy100 It hasn't? I wasn't aware. All I've heard is its opening weekend was far from a succes.
@@thomaspluijm4396 In my country anyway, The UK, elemental doesn't come out until the end of this week.
And the UK is one of the highest grossing countries for movies outside America.
I know I'm going to see it anyway, so hopefully it can make a bit of money here because it looks really sweet and charming.
I think that streaming services have put a massive dent into actual people in movie theater seats performance. We also can't ignore that Charlie answered his own question a couple seconds in, "And I just read this headline here, about a movie I didn't even know existed." I'm starting to notice that more and more companies just aren't bothering to advertise their movies, most likely hoping social media will do all of the heavily lifting for them
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts.
wow. amazing comment chain
@YY-ln1olAll the top 3 record breaking box office movies are woke
Yeah i didn’t know Fast X was coming out until maybe 2-3 months before. Back when Fast and Furious 4 came out i knew about it a year and a half before
@@passionate4645As always
Remember when LOTR, Star Wars prequels, and Harry Potter were coming out around the same time and all the good movies we had from 95-2015. Golden area.
2002 was the exact year.
In the UK, it's now £18.50 to go to my local ODEON cinema to see ONE MOVIE which during a cost of living crisis is unaffordable! And the food and drink is insanely priced too
"superhero movies were an infinite money glitch for a while but now that glitch has been patched" is genuinely the most perfect analogy ive ever heard
edit: they should also patch out the infinite anger glitch that occurs in the replies whenever you post a youtube comment
Yeah, superhero movies are garbage.
@@alpsalish They were fine when they tried to follow the comic books and descriptions, but when you stop listening to the fans and what made people go in droves... failure sets in.
The Batman trilogy is really looking like the last hope for superhero movies lol
@@alpsalishwtf are u on Spiderverse and GOTG are fucking perfect gems idk what y’all are complaining about
@@jaybarbieri8619this has got to be a joke! Batman movies are trash now Spiderman slams in every way and Spiderverse is the best movie ever
It's a lot of things:
1: General audiences are tired of spending upwards of 30 dollars to go see a movie that doesn't look worthwhile.
2: Most movies, even if successful at the box office, are put on streaming services within a month of release, so there's no real point going out to see it in theaters when you can spend less money in a month to have it until the service they buy it from shuts down.
3. A lot of the movies flopping NEED to hit a billion worldwide to break even, which is difficult to do. The new Indy is reported to have a $290 million budget, and the original (adjusted for inflation) cost less than 70 million.
Studio heads are speedrunning the death of the movie theater because they're too shortsighted to see basic problems that paint the bigger picture.
4. woke/feminist agenda
Maybe writers and critics should realize that movies are still allowed to be comedic
Peter Jackson went to studios to pitch his idea for a lotr film. He was passionate about making it. He found new line cinema to fund it. He had to deceive them in a few ways to get it made.
Now, studios hire a director to film the movies the studio has rights to. They change stories to make them politically correct.
Directors used to make movies with passion. Now directors are cast just as the actors are cast. Hollywood became too political and full of identity politics.
After years of it, people are done with the shit movies they produce.
Hollywood writers are uninspired and lean on CGI, A-list celebrities, and hype to carry their terrible stories.
Marvel movies/Disney movies are like junk food now. Sometimes they are a lot of fun, but too much just makes you sick.
I also think a factor is that most people have ad-blockers or premium services. So, no one is seeing the ads 😂
But the main issue is most likely price. I'd go to the theatre for a medicore movie if it didn't cost so much per person.
Might have to do something with the writing strike
My hometown totally leveled their movie theater a little while ago. Juice wasn’t worth the squeeze at all anymore.
I think another reason is Spider-Man’s massive success. I know people that have gone a couple times to the theater to see it again, myself included. Even a month after release, the tickets still sell like crazy in my area. Spider-Man’s success overshadows a lot of films that have been coming in under the radar.
Yeah because it was made with maximum effort! I took my kids to see it several times. Unlike most of the low effort crap they keep churning out.
@@anntares172 W Mom you have blessed kids
it’s a top tier movie. I went to watch it and decided I wasn’t gonna watch anything else that came out around the time.
fr i watched it the day it came out, plus another time and i plan to see it in theaters again. it literally has everything plus the way there are different versions of the move with slight variations in scenes just make it more interesting
Even a movie that good is being canceled in some islamic shit holes like UAE because they acknowledged trans existence as if that's not already set in stone by biology, even with such a not in your face approach conservatives have a problem with so msnt modern movies just because LGBT, idk there are many nunaces on why so many movie fails and people don't go because agenda ig, I've seen my friends talk like this so it's not hard to understand that more do
Audiences don’t want to watch studios turn their childhood heroes into sad, broken, old, losers. We definitely don’t want to see a younger character trashing the legacy character to make the younger one look better and be the obvious replacement for the legacy character.
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I agree, though I feel the "old broken shell" arc can only be pulled off by certain characters and not feel by the numbers (Logan, Thor kinda, etc)
Sounds like what they did to Optimus in RiD
Luke Skywalker is the first thing that comes to mind when you say this
When I first saw the trailer for Indy 5, I knew they were wanting to replace him with Phebe Waller Bridge’s character and that the whole movie was only made to be able to continue it with her
You know there's an issue when the price for one bottle of water is the same for a pack of water 🤣🤣
Puss and boots, Mario, across the spider verse movies that make you question how every other movie can’t get the memo.
Meanwhile Japanese anime movies are still going hard, the recently premiered Makoto Shinkai movie "Suzume" just hit 350 Million USD in box office against a 7 million USD budget. Japan is just built different when it comes to animated movies compared to American cartoon movies these days
Sounds like a horrible movie
Suzume was beautiful and you could tell the people making it actually cared about the product.
Japan still makes movies to entertain people... America makes movies to preach agendas at people and destroy their beloved icons for the sake of "updating them for modern audiences". This mythical "modern audience" that doesn't actually exist outside of the activist writers' imaginations.
@@jeremywall577 Cry in lowering western movie quality.
@@jeremywall577 You are saying its horrible because of the title?, tf... sounds like you just hate movies
There's a little cinema in Gloucester, UK, that took things back to basics. Used old-fashioned vintage cinema seats, sells tea in china cups, and bags of popcorn for £1. It is packed out almost every showing. People have adopted it as a community landmark. When Eddie the Eagle was playing, Eddie, who lives locally, showed up to a screening. It's run by a cinema buff who is passionate about the experience, and people love it. I would prefer to sit and watch something in the comfort of my own home unless it was an experiencthat really added to my overall enjoyment. Like you say, most cinemas are extortionately priced and pretty sterile, nondescript environments.
my local cinema lets ppl drink beer whilst watching a film🤣
Ngl, my favourite theatre experience was the first Twilight movie. My gf at the time made me go, and it was overbooked, so lots of ppl were sitting on the stairs like me. They didn't even sweep the floors between showings, so we had to sweep away popcorn and other junk. Everyone was hooting and hollering and having a great time, and so was I. Everyone laughed, ppl were shouting insults at the screen and not getting in trouble for it, the energy was so great I swear you could have lit a fire and ppl would dance around it
12 of the top 20 best movies I've seen in the last 5 years were low budget independent projects.
I remember going to watching Onward with some friends and one of them told me "so where is the part we start crying?" and then I saw how predictable mainstream cinema has become.
Even horror movies are dumb and predictable
If it’s so predictable wouldn’t u have known when to start crying tho?
@@maggie937think they meant they knew the “crying” bit was building up and they were joking that it wasn’t emotionally moving enough for them to be invested enough to cry
Since when was mainstream media NOT predictable?
@@maggie937No way you're this stupid. This is bait