Pro Tour Return to Ravnica: Finals
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024
- Watch the complete finals from Pro Tour Return to Ravnica between Stanislav Cifka and Yuuya Watanabe.
Format: Modern
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Stanislav made what every magic player wants to do: Go to a Pro Tour with a innovating deck that you invented and nobody is playing and win the tournament. with that deck.
I don't understand the Cifka hate.
He is a very prepared player and made an almost perfect read of the Modern metagame. He came from almost nowhere with his deck and lost only one match in the entire weekend. He basically steamrolled through Jund, Robots, other combos, anything.
This is a brilliant deck. This is top level Magic. He deserved that win.
Hey, that's me! :D
How ur head don't explode with this deck all the tournament? XDD
I loved watching you play this deck... I feel like yuuya didn’t though lmao
*siggghhhhhhhhhh* really?
"should i continue?" xD lol
You played such a great game.......master!
such eggs. very grapeshot.
wow.
Play the eggs, use the grapeshot to bake the eggs and there's your reward for your faith in this deck, second breakfast :D
Wilmer Claessens I prefer Cheerios
Wow 6 years ago?
Trix is better
@@nickfanzo missed the joke
Though I would dread to play with or against it, I have to say that Cifka's _Second Breakfast_ is quite an impressive deck, from both a mechanical and creative perspective. It's a well-oiled death machine that repeatedly takes its time to grind you down in a very consistent-but-inefficient way!
I used to hate watching this mostly because of the sighing, and the very tedious frustration of it all. But I came to appreciate it for little things, like Cifka AND Wantanabe giggling at the end of the round, because even Cifka recognizes the complete absurdity of this situation.
+reedca97 You have to congragulate Stan Cifka for "Breaking Modern" and finding this insane deck and then mastering it
There is that too lol. Combo decks are some of the most beautiful creations in the game. That's what I love about magic. It's like this puzzle, with every piece in front of you, and all you have to do is find the right parts that click in place, and you can do some pretty gnarly shit.
+reedca97 e.g. lantern control
playing lantern makes people hate you
Isaac Cohen but it's soo funny
Wow. I'm so impressed on how good of a sport he was, he let Watanabe respond to every trigger in a very friendly way and kept on smiling and being humble to the very end. Even after Watanabe screwed over his grape shot by gaining life he wasn't disheartened and was willing to go through the motions again. That's how a champion should be: humble, kind, and strong willed.
Yuuyu's a great guy... With the loss of a protour imminent, he still helps his opponent by counting storm and mana for him
He does that so that way he knows if cika can combo off or not
@@ethang1814 please do :)
@@antoninjanku3358 well... comment didnt age well...
What happened
@@Tacet137 Yuuya got busted for marking his tron lands and got kicked out of the Hall of Fame + suspended from sanctioned play.
breathing intensifies
hahaha
I have not a single clue wtf is going on
that's eggs lol
alan macbay lol
It’s not difficukt
C mon
Such an amazing match
I come back and watch it every now and again
"Deathrite Shaman, gain 2."
Hahahahahaha! Yuuya is such a great guy!
I'm so glad how much magic coverage has progressed since this.
You can hear the players over the commentators, theres large periods of silence from the commentators, any newish player will be completely lost trying to keep up
cifka is my favorite player i wish i had a way to tell him i love the way he plays and the decks
if you go a bit up on this video, you will se that Cifka commented on it. his youtube is stancifka :)
Cifka must be a parent because he has truly MASTERED the dad noise. well done sir
Ten years later and this is still my idea of peak Magic. Sure, the ban was right, but before the ban piloting that deck is pure genius.
Love this ProTour. I always think this is one of the best showing of a top level Magic player. Using a deck no one knows and winning with it. Beauty.
They left off Bob Maher in the list of PT Winners that used Treetop Village. He ran Villages in his Extended Oath deck in PT Chicago 1999.
Yup
Is... Is he holding his breath for like 10-15 seconds at a time, then sighing it all out?
OnlyTheCloud How it feels to play Eggs
These guys have the coolest names ever. Stanislav Cifka and Yuuya Watanabe
How Watanabe shuffles his deck is so satisfying!
the sighs are real lol
I really like that in a PT finals game that could get boring fast, Cifka and Watanabe are just all smiles and laughs during their matches.
This may have been boring for Watanabe, but for viewers this is quite enjoyable to watch, especially when one understands what's going on.
It was this Pro Tour that made me want to build Eggs.
Because of a lack of transport to get the cards I needed, I kinda stopped making the deck. But I did pick it up and build it last year. It's fun, but all the Grave hate means it's not that viable. Not at the same level it was here.
+ZakanaHachihaCBC Zac Elsik managed to come up with a pretty disgusting and almost consistent list for Eggs. Has 2 win cons and is a lot faster in execution than this previous eggs version. themeadery.org/b/zacelsik/read/poached-eggs-in-modern/
+WarpRulez If you found this enjoyable to watch, you're literally the kind of brain dead person that should be playing YuGiOh
Valane Luke
Why?
How does following a complex combo, and trying to understand it, make me braindead?
+Valane Luke It's okay that you didn't understand it, you don't need to make fun of people who like these types of decks, we're not judging you.
The skill it takes to keep track of each step and all your mana and every possible outcome is insane.
"I need you to make a play soon" he's been thinking for like 3 minutes, the other guys takes about 15 minutes in his turns. Wow.
"So much sighing in this Top 8." "Maybe we can just hear it better. Maybe they're always sighing, every show!"
xd
love both of the players tremendous expressions watching vigorously at a one sided game
As someone who started playing magic during 4th edition ice age years thank you for showing the cards that you are talking about on the side. I was just curious about the game and got in a mood to watch a game and its nice to see the cards to have that refrence.
It's in to come back and watch bdm say " yuuya's not eligible for hof until 2016" and now here we are
What this looks like when you are not into Magic too much:
Cifka juggles his card for 5 minutes, then something magic happens and watanabe surrenders. :D
I can't imagine why this deck got banned...
it got banned?
Liuv13 Not outright, but effectively, it was banned. Look at the modern ban list.
because it simply takes to long
Everyone started playing it and yes it takes long but more specifically people were abusing it by winning game one then purposely going to time so they'd win, also people were going to 5 turns but since it's all one turn they would play for sometimes a half hour or more past time in the round which is unfair for everyone waiting around in a 10 round tournament
Yeah, combo decks just should not really have a place in modern. Too easily abused.
I have never seen a Pro Tour final where both players are laughing and smiling throughout the match. Best final in years, congrats to Cifka
wow. watanabe gain 2 after grapeshot
Watanabe's sportsmanship and respect is so admirable. He wants to win hes a competitor, but he still respects his opponent
Too bad he's a big cheater
This is basically high tide in modern
Meandeck tendrils.
Anyone else notice that throughout the entire match, Cifka drank about 4 different beverages???
Hydration is important. It can help you win PTs
+DrewskiTheLegend how?
The brain works best when you are well hydrated.
Who here 2020 this is my favorite onwy
Ya same enjoy watching eggs trying to make eggs be amazing again kind of difficult but I am running 4 bring to light and 4 faiths reward which has been doing amazing I am running more disruption like silence and rebuke in the mb
Honestly this is the most interesting finals match I've seen in a tournament sense PT RTR, I love these weird decks.
When's kenny or mcnuggets going to play championship , with a randy magic half time show?
i love how manner Yuuya is when it comes to helping Cifka keep track of mana and his storm count. That guy is a total boss in my books
wonder if Watanabe had marked cards here
in match 2, watanabe kept a no-lander with 2 lands on top... a little suspicious but, on the other hand, it's a mull to 4 so what do you expect :D
basically, his win con is either pyrite spellbomb or grapeshot. with the pyrite, he uses faith's rewards and second sunrises to continuously gain infinite mana and can re-use the spellbomb to deal 2 damage to yuuya with each cycle.
grapeshot is storm. so after he has cast 20 spells, he can deal 20 damage to yuuya with grapeshot. once again, he can cast all the spells he wants.
I remember watching this the day it happened, going to the next event building the deck and then it got banned the week after. Since then every Modern deck ive built has had something banned LOL
I love that a good and honest combo deck has finally won a Pro Tour after so long. It's about time they got their time again. And what a fun deck it is.
FUN and INTERACTIVE Magic
In terms of card interaction, hell yeah!
That magic made that game the best, now is just brainless and commercial, even babies can play that
@@JankyDice96 This hit the feels
I've watched this video at least 3 times and it's still awesome every time!!
RIP Deathrite Shaman, I don't miss you~ Oh and Bloodbraid Elf.
+keatonkuuuun Bloodbraid Elf died for Deathrite Shaman's sins!
Bloodbraid is back!
Don’t forget second sunrise lol
For real. That was what I took home from this, Watanabe is a really classy competitor. To even focus and assist with the combo, just classy.
the only reason this match sucks is because of cifka sighing all the goddamn time
lol so true
didn't know that Vader played Modern
Hilbert França one of my friends tried to use an eggs-based strategy at Modern Monday here in Pensacola and it was exhausting just to WATCH him play it. it was nuts.
It's the shitty mic setup
1:28:10 why watanabe doesn't destroy the second lotus bloom while still on cifka's upkeep with the flashback part of ancient grudge and his overgrown tomb left untapped to make the mana desapear after cifka go to the draw step and main phase? Am i missing somethig or did he failed hard?
because if he did it. Cifka could sunrise both back. this way he could pay 3 mana and play sunrise to get 3 mana,
Why do people hate on combo decks? All that's needed to kill them is a well timed piece of removal or counterspell.
Because some people don't like fun.
And it's more like the uncertain combo decks they hate like Eggs here. Eggs can go off but then fizzle, so you have to see the deck be played out.
i really dont understand why yuya didint blow up both lotus blooms at 1:24:20 dude had no lands in play and this makes it so he is completely screwed for mana. instead he lets one bloom survive and allows him to cast faiths reward to start taking over the game
This is exactly why Second sunrise was banned.
*****
It's pretty epic to play for sure xD
Just replace it with open the vaults and replace something with Krak-clan iron works and put an emrakrul in there and grinding station and bam. Modern legal
+Matrix_ no. banefire/deal (x)
+joel .nevill Or blue Suns zenith
@@matrix_624 you were pretty right about kci, lol
Still watching this. Cifka's deck is mind blowing.
You wouldn't believe how much I miss Deathrite Shaman...
At 38:44, isn't there a mistake ? I mean Bob Maher Played Treetop Village in his deck at the Pro Tour Chicago 1999. So, not the same printing, but still the same card...
Yuuya plays more cards that got banned, funny to think about really.
The pro tours tend to be a cycle, all based around a set, so last season we had: Pro Tour Return to Ravnica, which was Triple RTR Draft and Modern, followed by PT Gatecrash, which was Triple Gatecrash draft, and Standard, and the last one of this season, that just finished was Pro Tour Dragon's Maze, which was Return to Ravnica Block Draft (Return to Ravnica, Gatecrash and Dragon's Maze Booster draft), and Block constructed.
that was the most ridiculous game five EVER
Why did Cifka play with his hand revealed at 34:34 and in the last match?
chea !!!!! he already got solved the game, so whats the deal hahaha
DJables He has nothing to hide, Yuuya knows all his moves. Easier to track everything laid out on the table, rather than some in your hand, and the rest on the battlefield.
Game 3- “should I continue?”
Absolutely loved Watanabe's sportsmanship this game... But I didn't blame him when he popped the shaman for 2 life. In fact, I applauded him for single-handedly trolling 14000 people simultaneously.
before watching this i checked cifka's decklist and couldnt figure out how he is going to win games...
Timba246 You missed the Pyrite Spellbomb? =P
Adam Savard If you don't know how the deck works, Pyrite Spellbomb looks like just a random card in the list
1:46:45 Watanabe concedes. But if Sifka sacs all his flasks, and then Second Sunrise. He has to draw 4, there is no may and Grapeshot is a Sorcery. Was there a chance he messes up and is forced to draw when he has no library? I would have made him play it out, that was Watanabe’s out.
1:47:03 loud sarcastic clap telling the sleeping audience the match is over.
I remember playing in a modern ptq and was going againdt this deck.......fourty minutes later i scooped cos i almost fell asleep
haha thats funny, they do take fooooooorever to take their turns
anyone else see that Cifka has at least 3 drinks with him (sprite, orange fantana, and sprite)
Kidoya T ...you count sprite twice?
Well I guess I had too much to drink
Kidoya T You forgot water lol
Again I have had too much to drink
Lol no big deal, just pointing it out
Holy fucking shit. I thought 'I'll watch magic for a minute or 2'... Holy shit. 2 hours later, and what a beast of a deck what the fuck. How many cards of that are still legal?
I think all of them except for "Second Sunrise."
Well now i know why the professor hates eggs deck...
I think in game 3 the missed suspend trigger was a miscall from the judge. Removing a time counter from a suspend card is not a "may" ability, it must happen. The same with casting the card, you must pay it, and only if you can't pay it can you not cast it. Could be wrong though, as I don't know what the rules are for missing a required game action.
I played a match on MTGO, and someone started playing Cifka's deck, card for card, and I just quit
surely you'd easily win on time...
What's the card he's playing at 1:43:45 ? I know the artwork but I can't find it in any list online
@@Alex-re5ip Thanks!! You helped me a lot
Watanabe, Japan's biggest troll ^^ ... I love this match.
Yuuya was so fucking done halfway through game one. The boi just starts rolling dice on the table 😂
FUCKING EGGS
Cifka and Watanabe are great players. I look forward in seeing them in future Pro Tours.
Actually Watanabe is cheating prick
WHEN MAGIC WAS MAGIC NOW EVERY ONE PLAY THE SAME DECKS XD
Why the hell did Yuuya not destroy both lotus' in the upkeep with ancient grudge at 1:27:35 ????
He gave Cifka 3 mana in is 1st main phase to cast his spells. And just brought it all back. He was stuck on 2 lands!!
I dont get it!!!!
cifka can respond to the ancient grudge targeting the bloom and get the 3 mana anyway. It was fairly obvious he also had a way to return them in his hand, so if yuuya targets both, then cifka casts sunrise/faith's reward and returns both during upkeep (since they are instants) using the mana he got from them. Yuuya was trying to get one of them gone permanently, which is what he did. It was the best way to slow him down.
Ahhh, thanks, that was what I was missing.LOL I didn't realize/forgot faiths rewards was instant.
I was so used to them being played at sorcery speeds I just started thinking of them as sorceries. I knew there had to be something I wasn't getting.
Thanks for explaining that, I thought that also.
SIGHHH
Respect for Cifka for bringing a very well-thought-of deck. Respect for Watanabe for showing great respect and sportmanship.
So glad this stupid fucking deck got nerfed.
I am not. I mean, this perpetuates the stereotype of competitive magic being difficult to get into.
Price for Mox Opal? Lilliana of the Veil? Tharmogoyf? At least this deck was unique, it would be annoying to play against, but the meta has been the same for 5+ years in general.
After the ban of second sunrise eggs players (such as myself) just tweaked the numbers and put in KCI and open the vaults. It's not the best deck but it is a fun one.
People complain about Standard for the price, but the staleness of Modern overweighs that IMO.
dredge is stale, race to emirkol is stale, wtf are you talking about
i mean if your towns modern meta is stale thats one thing
Pro Tours are in junction with the release of a new set in blocks. There is always a different constructed format in each consecutive Pro Tour (in this case, modern). The draft portion is always with the current set, which indicates the "Pro Tour: Return to Ravnica". What you are asking for would require all Pro Tours' Constructed formats to be Standard, which is absurd.
Second Sunrise, when it was printed, was a very very unique effect. It's good to see some redundancy now with Faith's Reward.
I absolutely love this deck. It is a triumph of true innovation.
Sifka seems like a nice and humble guy. Congrats to him.
I like it when they show the name of the decks beneath the players names... what were these ones?
+Zachary Rose (Der Fuhrer's Werwolf) cifka was eggs watanabe was jund
Ty.
For the conversation about uncounterable spells, almost every spell can be countered by Mindbreak Trap since it exiles the cards instead of directly countering them. The only way I can think of getting around it is to play something with split second.
Time Stop would also work.
While not the first to create the Sunny Side Up deck, Cifka made some nice adjustments and tweaks to fit the current meta.
Sylvain Lauriol would be proud.
The card does not, specifically, cost no mana to play. That would mean that it's converted mana cost is 0 (look up welding jar). This, on the other hand, has -no- converted mana cost, and thus can't be cast without using suspend. Living End is the same way.
Cifka, the hero!! Thank you...
the entire point of the pro-tour is to promote the game of magic so naming after the set that was just released is a good way to increase exposure of the set, as well as get people excited for it
@Chewbaccanator
11 years ago
I don't understand the Cifka hate.
He is a very prepared player and made an almost perfect read of the Modern metagame. He came from almost nowhere with his deck and lost only one match in the entire weekend. He basically steamrolled through Jund, Robots, other combos, anything.
This is a brilliant deck. This is top level Magic. He deserved that win.
He played two lands, game two on the final turn??
Love the Stanislav Cifka's deck and those moments were yuuya was not a cheater
Just wondering, is removing a time counter a may ability? Because if its not a may ability, Cifka has to remove the time counter regardless of if he forgot or not. I was just reading through the rules 702.61 Suspend. It doesn't say "may". Why Im asking this is because of the card phthisis, the draw back of the suspend was that since its 5 turns, players can play around the timing so not lose massive amoutn of life, but if I can just keep the spell at 1 time counter and "forget" to remove it, then I have a scary lockdown on my opponent. As very few cards interact with suspended cards. Does anyone know if removing time counter is a may ability?
It is a trigger so if you miss it then you miss it but if you do it multiple times a judge may be called for cheating.
It's not a may ability, but the way the missed trigger rule works nowadays (I think it changed to this rule shortly before this pro tour) is that when it's noticed (by either player) the judge will ask the opponent whether or not they want the trigger to be put on the stack. This gets around "forgetting" to remove a counter.
Additionally if a judge believes you intentionally forgot a trigger in order to benefit in some way then you will be DQed and this will result in an investigation into cheating with the DCI that could also result in a ban.
My god I love this kind of decks. The guy who designs this kind of decks is a fucking genius.
i like how we can actually hear the players talking, voices were too soft for gatecrash
Yes, but I've responded to this already. If Cifka uses his second sunrise on upkeep, then he needs a fetch and a sunrise effect on top of his library in order to have a reasonable shot at comboing off, and that's pretty statistically unlikely,
On the contrary I would argue the point of the pro tour is to motivate more revenue and play from those already involved. It makes it more appealing to come out to every event in your area if it can earn you entries into something like the PT and potentially win you a bunch of prize money, etc. The more motivated people are to earn their way in, the more events they go to, the more product they buy, the more money Wizards makes. It's not rocket science, and has nothing to do with set names.
Cifka is very charismatic and seems to be a nice person want more too see from him in the future
This was like watching one player play Magic - and other player play solitaire