Way back in 1989-90 I was on a M109 crew (#1 it was called then, I think. I pulled the lanyard) in 1/2 ACR in Germany. Unfortunately I didn't realize how awesome it was what I was doing. It's obvious with how clean these guys are this was all filmed for a dog and pony show!
0:53 In our 109A3 had a section chief get his hand caught in the breech trying to tap the powder bag in the same second the number 1 man yelled “closing”. The swear words coming out of that mans mouth. I could not stop laughing from my AG position. Good times!
This shit's so inefficient. The US should just buy the PZH2000 or K9 Thunders and make modifications as they see fit. Because the rounds per minute coming outta the Paladin is abysmal compared to those systems I just mentioned. Not to mention just how unsafe the environment is inside the Paladin for our troops. I doubt the K9 Thunders are as expensive as the Paladins!
Ok do these come with a shoulder mount? Could a 6ft, 1" person stand up inside this? Looks close. Thanks to all for your commitment and service. God watch over you.
From being an M109A2 Chief from back in the late '70's - I can see several changes with things like the 'charge' canister (used to be a bag), no Assistant Gunner or AG station evident, females in the crew (a no no back then), and even [apparently] a different rank structure. What was the electronic box that the loader (?) was using atop the projectile? Was that some sort of time or proximity-fuse setting device? Still exciting for me to experience this (even if it's only in a video now), even after so many years. Thanks for posting this.
@@cylinderroller - When I was stationed as a Section Chief with the 1/10 FA in Schweinfurt, Germany ('78 - '80), I had a loader, originally from Chicago, that never used the rammer. He not only always set all my 'Joe's' by hand, he had also braided our lanyard to about a 6" length. A 'bad dude' with a heart of gold - I still miss him.
They're Norwegian. Women have been able to serve here in any capacity for a while now (provided they meet requirements), and in 2015 conscription was extended to also include all women born after 1997. This doesn't mean they all serve though... they don't need the amount of people they are offered, so at first most cohorts only saw about 10% serve.... ...but with Putin's recent antics, that number is much higher today.
And see the PHZ 2000 that is smooth People and only three all that other only Krab and Archer too the best Artillery about safty and quick System loading full automatic only that Way the Cech learned with Zusana 2 is also perfect 👍
Except ukrainian crews fire just as fast if not faster and is way more reliable and still operational while the ceaser's are completely out of action 😂
The speed of a modern howitzer is largely independent from the materiel used and mostly depend on crew training , tactical situation and thermal condition of the barrel. All modern howitzer declares more or less 6 rounds every minute, and this was achievable even 30 or 40 years ago (for the first minute or less) but alas, nobody fires for one hour at a time nowadays, probably not even one minute of continuous fire is possible if the enemy is competent. These crews here are training, and stand to attention waiting for orders or signal at every step, safety and precision being paramount in peacetime crew evaluation.
I love how they just chuck the shells on the floor, as a former abrams tanker, we had to treat ours with care due to the paper/cellulose casing... so alien to me.
Yep, all steel casings make things easier. However, you do cringe when someone is carrying them on a shoulder and wipes out dropping it about 5-6 feet. You’re like damn dude be careful! Old 13B
はい、これは「ランヤード」と呼ばれており、操作の仕組みにより、誤って榴弾砲を発砲することはほとんど不可能です。(Yes, it's called a "Lanyard" and the mechanics of operation make it almost impossible to accidentally fire the howitzer).
Rate of fire on the M109A3GN looks pretty good! Rate of fire on the M109A6 and M109A7 looks terrible for a modern self-propelled howitzer. Why do the American versions use such clunky methods that result in such a slow rate of fire? Even the old Swiss M109 KAWEST could easily obtain a max rate of fire of 7-8 rounds per minute. It is just unacceptable that the U.S. Army's primary self-propelled artillery in the year 2024 is so far behind similar systems used by other First World nations. There is no reason why the M109A7 shouldn't be equipped with an automatic loading system that can send 9-10 rounds downrange in a minute.
It's simple answer, the KAWEST video I saw doesn't have the same procedure. The A7 would be as fast if they just shoving ammo and charge inside the chamber.
Of course they can reload faster without them getting the 'permission' from their howitzer sergeant. They sacrifice reloading speed for crewman's safety, which is better from the longer perspective. There's a video where crews finish reloading a m109 within 13 seconds. (M109 Reload and Fire: by username Kanndors)
That crew is soft... we were firing fast as fuck when I was in. They made the battalion commander come sit in the gun to make sure we weren't pre-loading, taping the lanyard, or finger popping the firing mech
Ironically the A3 shown looked considerably faster to fire and doesn't use that stupid bullet and pull cable firing system that appears to be from the 1700's. They just push a button. 🤷♂ Are they un-devloping this vehicle? Progress seemed to go in reverse from the A7 to the A3GN.
Sometimes the firing sequence for guns are considered classified, so it is worth watching. The crews of M109A7 are well trained, but the internal design for munition relay seems to be inconvenient on ergonomics resulting in time loss, which I have to agree for the government to explore a new howitzer.
The firing sequence is not classified. You can find it online if you look hard enough. But I agree, I am often jealous of other country's auto-loaders, but there is value in having a non-auto-loading system.
両手で押さないと装填出来ないようにするおかげで手を挟む事故が起きないようにしている。これがエンジニアリングだよな。素晴らしい。
同意せざるを得ませ (I have to agree).
1-82Fa 1992-97 ushered in the M109A6 old school now. Love watching brings back great memories.. Can & Will!
Can and Will.... I was 4/82 FA way back in the day.
Wow the A7s are nice. I see they also changed the powder bags since I have been in. 13 Bravo King of Battles!
Way back in 1989-90 I was on a M109 crew (#1 it was called then, I think. I pulled the lanyard) in 1/2 ACR in Germany. Unfortunately I didn't realize how awesome it was what I was doing. It's obvious with how clean these guys are this was all filmed for a dog and pony show!
0:53 In our 109A3 had a section chief get his hand caught in the breech trying to tap the powder bag in the same second the number 1 man yelled “closing”. The swear words coming out of that mans mouth. I could not stop laughing from my AG position. Good times!
Gun Bunnies 😉. Love the 13 Bravos . Hooah . 1976-1996 .
狭い砲塔内での装填から激発迄の一連作業をみれて感激です。
砲兵クルーの皆さん達の連携したチームワークは素晴らしいですね。
楽しいと思っていただけて嬉しいです。はい、効率的になるには多くの練習が必要です。(I am pleased that you found it enjoyable. Yes, it takes a lot of practice to become efficient).
This shit's so inefficient. The US should just buy the PZH2000 or K9 Thunders and make modifications as they see fit. Because the rounds per minute coming outta the Paladin is abysmal compared to those systems I just mentioned. Not to mention just how unsafe the environment is inside the Paladin for our troops. I doubt the K9 Thunders are as expensive as the Paladins!
Asking the US government to buy foreign military equipment is like asking the CEO of Apple to use a Samsung phone.
装填室が見られるなんて、ミリタリー好きにはたまらないですよね(^^)
M109A3GN is the best in Paladin’s Series
射角変えずに装填できるのは良いですね
給弾置き場から手動でトレイに置くのは腕パンパンだろうな～
手動装填は見てるだけで泣きたくなる
現役時代の時を思い出して懐かしい
Ok do these come with a shoulder mount?
Could a 6ft, 1" person stand up inside this? Looks close.
Thanks to all for your commitment and service. God watch over you.
From being an M109A2 Chief from back in the late '70's - I can see several changes with things like the 'charge' canister (used to be a bag), no Assistant Gunner or AG station evident, females in the crew (a no no back then), and even [apparently] a different rank structure. What was the electronic box that the loader (?) was using atop the projectile? Was that some sort of time or proximity-fuse setting device? Still exciting for me to experience this (even if it's only in a video now), even after so many years. Thanks for posting this.
i think the woman was swiss and not in the us army but still i get what you mean
I remember loading the rounds by hand back in the 80s. Rammer was too slow.
@@cylinderroller - When I was stationed as a Section Chief with the 1/10 FA in Schweinfurt, Germany ('78 - '80), I had a loader, originally from Chicago, that never used the rammer. He not only always set all my 'Joe's' by hand, he had also braided our lanyard to about a 6" length. A 'bad dude' with a heart of gold - I still miss him.
They're Norwegian. Women have been able to serve here in any capacity for a while now (provided they meet requirements), and in 2015 conscription was extended to also include all women born after 1997. This doesn't mean they all serve though... they don't need the amount of people they are offered, so at first most cohorts only saw about 10% serve....
...but with Putin's recent antics, that number is much higher today.
これは兵器のスペックもあるけどチームワークだなあ。よっぽど訓練しないとこんな速度で撃てないだろ…
Not a "semi-autoloader". Just the standard manually operated hydraulic rammer that the M-109 has had since the 1960's.
Its different than the older models but sure bud.
And see the PHZ 2000 that is smooth People and only three all that other only Krab and Archer too the best Artillery about safty and quick System loading full automatic only that Way the Cech learned with Zusana 2 is also perfect 👍
しっかりと炸薬なども手をおいて装填手と違う人が確認してて偉い(=ﾟωﾟ)ﾉ
確認してる人は引き金も渡してるから車長やろな(=ﾟωﾟ)ﾉ
砲弾の信管の安全装置カット→砲弾装填→炸薬装填→角度調整→起爆信管接地→引き金紐接地→すべての確認→射撃
@@Fammy__
車長は僕だ♪
砲手と装填手と操舵手と通信手は君だ♪
@@Fammy__ アメリカ陸軍砲兵隊では、その人のことを「課長」と呼びます。
@@loganteodoro2885 勉強になりますわ(=ﾟωﾟ)ﾉ
Overall good crew drill, by TACSOP
All this, to fire a shell? The Ceasar fires 3 times faster
and moves faster to escape counter battery.
Except ukrainian crews fire just as fast if not faster and is way more reliable and still operational while the ceaser's are completely out of action 😂
The speed of a modern howitzer is largely independent from the materiel used and mostly depend on crew training , tactical situation and thermal condition of the barrel. All modern howitzer declares more or less 6 rounds every minute, and this was achievable even 30 or 40 years ago (for the first minute or less) but alas, nobody fires for one hour at a time nowadays, probably not even one minute of continuous fire is possible if the enemy is competent. These crews here are training, and stand to attention waiting for orders or signal at every step, safety and precision being paramount in peacetime crew evaluation.
❤🎋Thank your my dear
Happy thanksgiving 😮
2:06 FIRE🔥💀💀
Nice and interesting Video. Regarding Archer and RCH155 it looks a little bit outdated.
I need to get one of those, does the US Army take VISA?
雷管と拉縄なんとかならんのですかね・・・
Now I know why I was infantry!
3:02 fire!
최고!
I love how they just chuck the shells on the floor, as a former abrams tanker, we had to treat ours with care due to the paper/cellulose casing... so alien to me.
Yep, all steel casings make things easier. However, you do cringe when someone is carrying them on a shoulder and wipes out dropping it about 5-6 feet. You’re like damn dude be careful! Old 13B
車長が最後にロープ渡す迄撃てないシステム良いですね。
Why is the gunner loading rounds?
Im romanian and i com to you
撃つ時は、今もヒモを引っ張って発射するんだね
はい、これは「ランヤード」と呼ばれており、操作の仕組みにより、誤って榴弾砲を発砲することはほとんど不可能です。(Yes, it's called a "Lanyard" and the mechanics of operation make it almost impossible to accidentally fire the howitzer).
いつだって主役は砲兵
Nice😊😁😁😁
Rate of fire on the M109A3GN looks pretty good! Rate of fire on the M109A6 and M109A7 looks terrible for a modern self-propelled howitzer. Why do the American versions use such clunky methods that result in such a slow rate of fire? Even the old Swiss M109 KAWEST could easily obtain a max rate of fire of 7-8 rounds per minute. It is just unacceptable that the U.S. Army's primary self-propelled artillery in the year 2024 is so far behind similar systems used by other First World nations. There is no reason why the M109A7 shouldn't be equipped with an automatic loading system that can send 9-10 rounds downrange in a minute.
The US has pretty much focused on missile artillery over gun artillery. They have multiple new missile artillery programs and one for gun artillery.
I think its because both stationary howitzers and M109s have similar firing mechanisms to help with the training of troops
It's simple answer, the KAWEST video I saw doesn't have the same procedure. The A7 would be as fast if they just shoving ammo and charge inside the chamber.
Of course they can reload faster without them getting the 'permission' from their howitzer sergeant. They sacrifice reloading speed for crewman's safety, which is better from the longer perspective.
There's a video where crews finish reloading a m109 within 13 seconds. (M109 Reload and Fire: by username Kanndors)
That crew is soft... we were firing fast as fuck when I was in. They made the battalion commander come sit in the gun to make sure we weren't pre-loading, taping the lanyard, or finger popping the firing mech
Perhaps if they took their headphones off they wouldn't need to shout at each other.
米軍の兵器なら、装填などもう少し自動化されているのかと思ったら、案外とアナログ(力業)な手順が残っているのですね。
自動装填が故障するよりも手動の方が良いと言う事なのでしょうか。これは、マッチョじゃないと務まらないねぇ。
开眼。“栓动式火炮”👍👍
Ironically the A3 shown looked considerably faster to fire and doesn't use that stupid bullet and pull cable firing system that appears to be from the 1700's. They just push a button. 🤷♂ Are they un-devloping this vehicle? Progress seemed to go in reverse from the A7 to the A3GN.
A3GNの装填手の1人は女性兵士なのですね。😮アメリカ軍内女性兵士の進出度には頭が下がります。
Is It "Paladin"? Thanks
ဗဟုသုတ😊😊😊😊
載せる時にゴムマットひいてる。あと紐引いて発射してるんだ。
装填中なんて言ってるのか日本語訳が欲しい
私はアメリカの砲兵です。 装填中、ナンバー1の男は、高性能爆発物を意味する「シェルHE」、点爆発を意味する「ヒューズPD」と言い、「検証の準備ができています」と言います。 署長は、それが正しいラウンドとヒューズであるかどうかを「確認した」と言いました。 次に砲手は「チャージ 1 リマ、確認の準備ができました。」と言いました。 1 リマは推進剤の量です。
10:22 camera man got hit 😨
Becose you dont understented supremația
M109A7 좋네요. 하지만 한국의 K9보다는 자동화나 사거리 측면에서 좀 아쉬운 느낌. 탄약 보급도 자동화가 필요할듯 합니다.
トイレットロールが！（ﾁｶﾞｳ）
弾薬手の砲弾に対する扱い方よ。
もし自衛隊であんなに雑に弾薬手が砲弾を扱おうもんなら分隊長から全力のドロップキックが飛んでくるなw
H２曹からドロップキックぶちかまされてベソかいていた同期の森君は元気だろうか？
神を称えよ!その名は砲兵!!
The Ukrainian soldiers learned this in two to three weeks, impressive. 😂
硝煙出ないんですねぇ？
エバキュエーターがしっかり機能しているとおもわれ
@@MetallRhein まさにその通りです、ボアエバキュエーターが付いています
@@loganteodoro2885 さん
あとM231装薬を一個しか使ってないってのも理由としてありそうですね。
@@MetallRhein素晴らしい点。 ただし、私はそれをボアエバキュエーターのせいだと考えています。私はM77A2を通してM231を1発撃ったことがありますが、エバキュエーターがないため、突破口からはまだ大量の煙が出ています。
Sometimes the firing sequence for guns are considered classified, so it is worth watching. The crews of M109A7 are well trained, but the internal design for munition relay seems to be inconvenient on ergonomics resulting in time loss, which I have to agree for the government to explore a new howitzer.
The firing sequence is not classified. You can find it online if you look hard enough. But I agree, I am often jealous of other country's auto-loaders, but there is value in having a non-auto-loading system.
How is an auto loader if someone has to put the round in the tray?! Hahaha
I see they only use 1 propellant. Is itnpossible to put 2 propellants also ?
Yes, different numbers of bags can be used to adjust range.
متاسفم 😊🥰🤣ise nla
Заряжающий орет сильнее пушки,таскать снаряды грижа позвоночного отдела,самаходка старая.Русская коалиция на много проше .
what, you don't hit the gym or something?
deadlifting a shel like that would be easy work
Compare this with a PZH-2000 firing sequence. This is pathetic.
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Stuka
Why not design fully automatic reload Howitzer ???
A7 is faster