A sporting Benelli M4? They may not make it, but Remington makes a very similar model in the V3. Dual gas pistons, the aforementioned gas ports in the chamber, dual recoil springs within the receiver (buttstock is empty), and a rotary bolt lockup. Ive put over 3k rounds thru mine and have yet to have any jams or mis-feeds. Its not the prettiest gun (available with a plain walnut stock), but its head and shoulders over my old 1100.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Ive been very pleased with mine. Is it perfect? Nah, i wish it had traditional bluing, a steel receiver and high gloss finish on the wood furniture. But, it does swing nice, has been extremely reliable, and has the smoothest recoil pulse ive experienced. Thanks for the great videos and sharing your insights.
Another fine video my friend. Ah the Browning “Humpy”. I’ve owned and unfortunately, let go a few of these fine game getters. Every time I see one I envision a misty morning on the marsh, rubber hip boots, waxed canvas hunting clothes, the smell of pipe tobacco and wet retriever.... someone please guide me to the nearest time portal, I’m ready to go back!
I picked up a beautiful, older 1100 yesterday. It is a fine example and I will be stepping out this afternoon to give it a whirl. Of all the shotguns I've owned, this is my first 1100...Kind of odd being a nostalgic classic firearm enthusiast and never owning an 1100 until now. :) It is chambered for 2 3/4" only, but I am fine with that. I have never needed anything longer, whether wing shooting, turkey hunting or deer hunting...I love the Benelli shotguns as well. I find them to be near indestructible. As usual, I enjoyed this video very much!
Years ago I had a Remington 1100, and with my goose barrel which had only one gas port it would not cycle very light trap loads, but I had bought a shorter barrel that happened to have two gas ports and it would cycle light loads.
Just to clarify the short recoil system of a browning double auto is different to a Benelli inertia action. Neither of these are “blowback” (as per a comment below). The benelli system works by the compression of a spring between the rotating bolt head and the bolt carrier. The bolt carrier initially remains stationary whilst the gun recoils back. The spring then provides energy to the bolt carrier etc. You can see a diagram on Wikipedia I think.
Thanks for the clarification h249. Most people don't think the .30 M1 has a floating chamber. The Benelli is so slick - excellent engineering and manufacturing.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I could be wrong.. It's just what I've read. I'm unfamiliar with the M1 personally. I have a Model 50 along with an A5 and double auto. All are built to keep going another lifetime after mine!
John Moses Browning. My opinion he was the best gun designer of all time. He was a true American some of the weapons that he design are still in the American Military today.
The Franchi (Fr-on-Key) AL48 is a Long Recoil operated model but, not a copy or clone of the Auto 5. Remington and Savage made clones of the Auto 5. The Winchester "Floating Chamber" was used on both the model 50 and 59. Short Recoil was only used on Browning's Double Auto and the A500-R. These two models are called Short Recoil by Browning but, are different in design especially their bolts. The A500-R looks like a cross of the Short Recoil and Inertia designs. What Benelli uses on most of their auto loaders is quite different which is the Inertia design as h2489 already pointed out. The barrel on Inertia operated models do not move at all. Gas operated has both long and short stroke designs. Most are single piston designs with the Benelli M4 and Remington Versa Max and V3. The Blow back (delayed) design is used on a tactical model like the SRM 1216. No hunting/sporting models use this operation that I know of. Then there's the revolver type from a wind up drum of the Striker/Street Sweeper. So there's 6 semi auto operation types that I know of. The Short Recoil and Gas operated models having some pretty big design differences from model to model.
Thank you briski351 - excellent post. I like the Browning A 500 a lot and the gas model was great as well - and then I foolishly sold both. These are all such clever designs - even the ones that don't work so well. The Franchi in 28 Gauge I still have as well as The Benelli in 28 - I shouls make a video. Thanks for taking the time to write and your expertise.
I know this is an old video but just wanted to say I do agree with a point you made, I own a Model 11 (Remington licensed A5) and the Higgins 66, the A5 is a brilliant work but the 66 is just a real underrated treat to shoot, paid $125+tax for one and its my favorite shotgun to shoot.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns lots of fun to be had in old shotguns, especially those forgotten in todays age. If you still have your Higgins I would love to see a new video on it one day!
That would be similar to my approach! In the early 70's, quail and pheasant were plentiful in southern Michigan and northern Indiana. We had many memorable hunts. Seldom needed more than two, but a third from the pump could be handy from time to time. Regardless, the A5 is a bit of a legend and should find its way into my collection.
Hi hope you get one Marc - at one point I had sold every A5 I owned. The void in the vault was overwhelming. There is something about the A5 - it does not matter if there are better shotguns; the A5 is on a different plane. A legend - as I probably said more than once : )
i thought John Browning went to Remington when Winchester turned down his auto 5 shotgun? I do know Winchester must have been livid for not taking his deal. The show I watched on it even said Winchester told him that no one would buy a self loading shotgun LOL! Then they couldn't use his patent and were stuck with that widowmaker they made which I liked. It's fun asking people on the range how you operate the bolt!
I chuckled all the way through your Browning A5 review... Yes, John Browning was a firearms genius, BUT, many of his ideas always seem to be overly complicated. Alas, I've never designed a single firearm but I've taken enough of them apart to know any Browning design will be more challenging when it's reassembled. Case in point - Browning 1911 vs the Glock 17. The M4 is indeed about the best of what you reviewed. Great video, as always!
Hi Paul - he seemed to like parts for sure. On the other hand, some of his designs are brilliantly simple with few parts. Anyway - I know what you mean. As for the Benelli, it's true...just amazing.
Remington 1100 is very nice, also very affordable, I picked mine up for less than $400 in 3" magnun. Only issue is the older ones which don't cycle lower charges like target loads. They work great for pheasant.
Probably still the best gas semi. Steel and material of choice for the stock, reliable and in one or another chamber length - about as good as it gets. Your 3" is ideal. I never saw the need to mix shells much - I used a 2 3/4 and never wanted for anything. I could have done the same with a 3"
USOG Last time I used it hunting was last year and it does say 2 3/4 or 3" I believe. My brother had thought my dads Winchester model 50 was broken however I think he may have been using target loads because it cycled fine for me with express loads
Hi nice video. But you are incorrect @3:00 where you state Benelli Super Black Eagles uses short recoil Benelli SBE are using inertia driven recoil system. And is the one system you dont show in you video.
So the gas system can be adjusted for the type of load being used right so you don't break the action bar The action bar on the J.C higgins was prone to breaking because people did know how to adjust the gas piston and were using different loads I think wha'ts your opinion on this?
Ok I did more research on the the gas system on a J,C higgins model 66 If you take the forend off you will see the top of the gas block there is a series of washers in front if you remove those you will see six gas ports 3 on each side those ports will get carbon build up after prolonged use I believe that is where the the problem is those ports have to be cleaned or cleared to prevent action bar from breaking I just read my owners manual it says " When light loads are fired cylinder valve (L) remains closed ,allowing full power of measured gas to push against piston . When heavy loads are fired cylinder valve (L) opens in proportion to to the increased power of the load and allows the required amount of measured gas to escape ,thus equalizing the push of gas against the piston " Please remove my last comment as I was mistaken It seems like no adjustment is required it adjusts itself you just have to keep those washers and ports free of carbon buildup sorry I need to read more before making a comment
Hello - the 11-48 is long recoil - like the Remington 11. I think the Win. 50 uses a floating chamber - which I think is fantastic and the 50 is the most undervalued and under appreciated semi - and its performance is stellar (at least for me) - the Ithaca 51 is gas operated. Al three are fine, assuming the right loads are used. The 51 can break parts once in awhile - but that makes owing them interesting.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns There's an local online auction coming up that has a brand new winchester 50, still in the box unassembled, let me know if you want the link... Thanks for the info by the way!!
Thank you, interesting as always! I just saw one of these Brownings locally and as you say, they can be very reasonably priced. A sporting version of that Benelli is a great idea too btw, although it's a definite winner in the badassery category as it is lol
Hi! That Benelli has some kind of magic in it. Maybe it is "dark magic" - but magic nonetheless - even quiet me pics it up from time to time and pictures the hordes of evil closing in and the Benelli saving the day. Imagination can be a funny thing. : )
From what i've experienced, Pre 80's shot guns are far superior to the stuff they make today when it comes to the fit and finish. They may not be as high tech and able to shoot as many different loads but are in general a more quality product.
I know this was about semi auto shot guns but I wanted to to comment on a recent video in the chance you might see it. Could you , at some point comment on the Carcano 91 such as how fast the action is. I really enjoy your videos and knowledge . Thank you for this channel.
Hello - I'll make a video for sure - thank you. In the meantime, I must say I've owned several of these rifles. The mechanism is not particularly smooth and yet, I found the rifle and carbine to be entirely reliable and accurate. The Norma ammunition I used was excellent of course. There is something about the Carcano that in totality makes one feel that it might not be a good weapon; this is not what I experienced though. Italy was and is an extremely capable country and this, their military weapon, was well tested. Although not a Mauser 98, the Carcano remains a significant weapon and a very good buy in the surplus market. The ballistics of the cartridge are very fine. I ran into a fellow in the deer woods a few years ago who hunted with a Carcano "as is" from the war and according to him, he never regretted his choice.
I need some help, I have the same JC Higgins model that you have on the table it says it is the 60, I think that the difference is the adjustable choke. I have a few questions, 1st: chamber 2 3/4 or 3”, and can you use both? 2nd: using a 3” magnum high brass shells this baby works fine but kicks like a mule. When I tried 2 3/4 low brass game loads it does not cycle. When I tried 2 3/4” high brass high velocity (Federal ExpressXLR) shells it cycled but did not discharge the spent shell. Do you have any information that could help me. There are no real places for information on this gun and I am quite new to shotguns. Thanks in advance.
Hi - please check on the side of the barrel - it should say 2 3/4 as mine does - so I use 2 3/4 shells. Have a look under the forend and see if there are brass friction rings on the magazine tube - these can be adjusted for high or low brass shells. The basic principle is : to use less powerful shells reduce friction; to use more powerful shells - increase friction. My shotgun would not work with regular 2 3/4 inch shells so I took off one of the black friction rings on the magazine tube. Maybe I was lucky but it works perfectly now. Hope this helps.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Do you have a Beretta ES100 I've heard good things about them. They are similar to early models of the Super Black Eagle. they have a solid bolt locking base instead of a rotating face and have good barrels apparently. Easy to take apart and clean, not that they need it with the inertia system...
Thank you for the video. Very interesting. Sadly I'm unable to obtain an M4 where I liver since they come under "military weapons" and such are restricted here (at least for hunting - Norway). Currently own a Benelli Supersport 5+1 12 gauge (inertia driven). Never had a jam 24-52 gram shells (1000+).
All Benelli shotguns are awesome! I'm a proud owner of a m4. Looked hard at a m2, also inertia driven, but I really wanted the m4 and eventually got one. I was not disappointed. Happy Hunting in Norway!
I have owned all types of the shotguns you have shown and i can tell you the inertia system used by benelli is fare better than anything else as far as reliability and maintenance ,In fact you almost dont need to clean them.
I've heard this from many people - they may have perfected the semi auto shotgun - it certainly seems that way. The minimal cleaning aspect makes it even better. Thanks for writing.
So interesting TurtleWolf - I had no idea. I saw the twin pistons on the Remington but didn't know the Benelli has the chamber ports. I hope to have a V3 one of these days. So many guns...so little time 😂 - thanks for the note.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns the hunting version of the Remington also goes all the way from 3.5" to 2.75" and although I don't own one and haven't shot one I haven't heard any really bad reports from others who have.
Very good video just viewing it now for the first time, but you made one comment that’s not entirely true,that the Remington was a copy, browning actually went to Remington and offered the Patent but right at that time the president or CEO of Remington had a heart attack and died, at that point in time the contract went to Belgium and then shortly there after back to Remington, the name of their rifle was Remington model 11 which actually stayed into production until 1947, it’s not really that important except for the fact that It was not a copy they actually had one of the initial rights to the Patent offered to them by browning for a fee
Just imagine for a moment that the Winchester shotgun lineup could have been the Model 97, the Model 12, the Model 21, and the Browning A5. Wow, that arguably would have been the greatest lineup of shotgun models ever made by one company. Instead, they rejected the A5 and ultimately designed the Model 1911 "Widowmaker." Anyways, how is the Bubbagun project going?
Great comment. What a blunder. The Winchester Auto 5 - would have been fantastic. The Bubba is sleeping under my desk. Once in awhile I think I hear it whimper and it makes me feel bad that I don't do something. I cut the comb off and...I'll make a video : ) thanks for the reminder.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Certainly one of the biggest blunders in firearms history. At least Remington had the excuse that their President died of a heart attack before being able to meet with Mr. Browning on making the A5. After that, FN got the rights to produce it and the rest is history. The Bubba just looks like such a neat project, and I like how it encourages people to look for great guns that just need some work.
A sporting Benelli M4? They may not make it, but Remington makes a very similar model in the V3. Dual gas pistons, the aforementioned gas ports in the chamber, dual recoil springs within the receiver (buttstock is empty), and a rotary bolt lockup. Ive put over 3k rounds thru mine and have yet to have any jams or mis-feeds. Its not the prettiest gun (available with a plain walnut stock), but its head and shoulders over my old 1100.
Hi Dan - Thanks to you, I'll buy the V3. It is the dual gas pistons....that is the trick; or the way. Cheers!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Ive been very pleased with mine. Is it perfect? Nah, i wish it had traditional bluing, a steel receiver and high gloss finish on the wood furniture. But, it does swing nice, has been extremely reliable, and has the smoothest recoil pulse ive experienced. Thanks for the great videos and sharing your insights.
Another fine video my friend. Ah the Browning “Humpy”. I’ve owned and unfortunately, let go a few of these fine game getters. Every time I see one I envision a misty morning on the marsh, rubber hip boots, waxed canvas hunting clothes, the smell of pipe tobacco and wet retriever.... someone please guide me to the nearest time portal, I’m ready to go back!
I picked up a beautiful, older 1100 yesterday. It is a fine example and I will be stepping out this afternoon to give it a whirl. Of all the shotguns I've owned, this is my first 1100...Kind of odd being a nostalgic classic firearm enthusiast and never owning an 1100 until now. :) It is chambered for 2 3/4" only, but I am fine with that. I have never needed anything longer, whether wing shooting, turkey hunting or deer hunting...I love the Benelli shotguns as well. I find them to be near indestructible. As usual, I enjoyed this video very much!
It’s a pleasure to listen to your blog
Your kind words mean so much to me - thank you - I'll keep going.
I have a couple of A5, Browning and a Savage from the 40's. Love my Belgian A5's. Fine tutorial sir.
I like the Savage version of the Auto 5 as well.
Very detailed explanation. Thanks a lot. Learned a lot from this video.
I admire your knowledge of detailed aspects of hand held firearms
Years ago I had a Remington 1100, and with my goose barrel which had only one gas port it would not cycle very light trap loads, but I had bought a shorter barrel that happened to have two gas ports and it would cycle light loads.
Good to know - the 1100 is amazing.
The best semi action (Browning A-5 )
Just to clarify the short recoil system of a browning double auto is different to a Benelli inertia action. Neither of these are “blowback” (as per a comment below). The benelli system works by the compression of a spring between the rotating bolt head and the bolt carrier. The bolt carrier initially remains stationary whilst the gun recoils back. The spring then provides energy to the bolt carrier etc. You can see a diagram on Wikipedia I think.
The Winchester model 50 uses the same floating chamber design as the .30 M1 carbine. It’s brilliant.
Thanks for the clarification h249. Most people don't think the .30 M1 has a floating chamber. The Benelli is so slick - excellent engineering and manufacturing.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I could be wrong.. It's just what I've read. I'm unfamiliar with the M1 personally. I have a Model 50 along with an A5 and double auto. All are built to keep going another lifetime after mine!
I have a Belgium Browning A-5 in 3" magnum with a 30" full choke I love to shoot it shoots so smooth only down side I can't shoot field loads
Hi Mike - I have the same shotgun - I use the field loads as a straight pull bolt - not the best but at least I can get the odd grouse or three.
John Moses Browning. My opinion he was the best gun designer of all time. He was a true American some of the weapons that he design are still in the American Military today.
You're right - amazing designs from an amazing man and mind.
The Franchi (Fr-on-Key) AL48 is a Long Recoil operated model but, not a copy or clone of the Auto 5. Remington and Savage made clones of the Auto 5. The Winchester "Floating Chamber" was used on both the model 50 and 59. Short Recoil was only used on Browning's Double Auto and the A500-R. These two models are called Short Recoil by Browning but, are different in design especially their bolts. The A500-R looks like a cross of the Short Recoil and Inertia designs. What Benelli uses on most of their auto loaders is quite different which is the Inertia design as h2489 already pointed out. The barrel on Inertia operated models do not move at all. Gas operated has both long and short stroke designs. Most are single piston designs with the Benelli M4 and Remington Versa Max and V3. The Blow back (delayed) design is used on a tactical model like the SRM 1216. No hunting/sporting models use this operation that I know of. Then there's the revolver type from a wind up drum of the Striker/Street Sweeper. So there's 6 semi auto operation types that I know of. The Short Recoil and Gas operated models having some pretty big design differences from model to model.
Thank you briski351 - excellent post. I like the Browning A 500 a lot and the gas model was great as well - and then I foolishly sold both. These are all such clever designs - even the ones that don't work so well. The Franchi in 28 Gauge I still have as well as The Benelli in 28 - I shouls make a video. Thanks for taking the time to write and your expertise.
You should get a hold of a Schultz & Larsen Victory or Legacy rifle. Schultz & Larsen makes the smoothest riding bolt in a rifle.
Couldn't agree more
Saving for a 458wm barrel for mine :)
I know this is an old video but just wanted to say I do agree with a point you made, I own a Model 11 (Remington licensed A5) and the Higgins 66, the A5 is a brilliant work but the 66 is just a real underrated treat to shoot, paid $125+tax for one and its my favorite shotgun to shoot.
Few know what you know - most are stuck in the present moment
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns lots of fun to be had in old shotguns, especially those forgotten in todays age. If you still have your Higgins I would love to see a new video on it one day!
Thank you for the note
That would be similar to my approach! In the early 70's, quail and pheasant were plentiful in southern Michigan and northern Indiana. We had many memorable hunts. Seldom needed more than two, but a third from the pump could be handy from time to time.
Regardless, the A5 is a bit of a legend and should find its way into my collection.
Hi hope you get one Marc - at one point I had sold every A5 I owned. The void in the vault was overwhelming. There is something about the A5 - it does not matter if there are better shotguns; the A5 is on a different plane. A legend - as I probably said more than once : )
Great education on actions... I am a pump and double barrel guy, but one day will venture into A5 land. Love that shotgun.
Hi Marc - I'm with you. I like the doubles - never felt an urgent need for that 3rd shot - seems like a whole lot of complexity for 1 extra shot.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Agreed 100%!
Hi Marc - you know, just handling that A5 put me back in the marsh with a cold wind and the sound of wings. Great, great shotgun.
...sometimes I only loaded one or too shells...but, you know, I'm not exactly a regular waterfowler : )
That was very interesting. I'd not seen the Winchester 50 before, thanks very much.
i thought John Browning went to Remington when Winchester turned down his auto 5 shotgun? I do know Winchester must have been livid for not taking his deal. The show I watched on it even said Winchester told him that no one would buy a self loading shotgun LOL! Then they couldn't use his patent and were stuck with that widowmaker they made which I liked. It's fun asking people on the range how you operate the bolt!
I chuckled all the way through your Browning A5 review...
Yes, John Browning was a firearms genius, BUT, many of his ideas always seem to be overly complicated. Alas, I've never designed a single firearm but I've taken enough of them apart to know any Browning design will be more challenging when it's reassembled. Case in point - Browning 1911 vs the Glock 17.
The M4 is indeed about the best of what you reviewed. Great video, as always!
Hi Paul - he seemed to like parts for sure. On the other hand, some of his designs are brilliantly simple with few parts. Anyway - I know what you mean. As for the Benelli, it's true...just amazing.
Remington 1100 is very nice, also very affordable, I picked mine up for less than $400 in 3" magnun. Only issue is the older ones which don't cycle lower charges like target loads. They work great for pheasant.
Probably still the best gas semi. Steel and material of choice for the stock, reliable and in one or another chamber length - about as good as it gets. Your 3" is ideal. I never saw the need to mix shells much - I used a 2 3/4 and never wanted for anything. I could have done the same with a 3"
USOG Last time I used it hunting was last year and it does say 2 3/4 or 3" I believe. My brother had thought my dads Winchester model 50 was broken however I think he may have been using target loads because it cycled fine for me with express loads
Hi nice video. But you are incorrect @3:00 where you state Benelli Super Black Eagles uses short recoil Benelli SBE are using inertia driven recoil system. And is the one system you dont show in you video.
So the gas system can be adjusted for the type of load being used right so you don't break the action bar The action bar on the J.C higgins was prone to breaking because people did know how to adjust the gas piston and were using different loads I think wha'ts your opinion on this?
That's an excellent post. I didn't know. I'll adjust for heavy loads. I hope people read your post. Thank you very much.
Ok I did more research on the the gas system on a J,C higgins model 66 If you take the forend off you will see the top of the gas block there is a series of washers in front if you remove those you will see six gas ports 3 on each side those ports will get carbon build up after prolonged use I believe that is where the the problem is those ports have to be cleaned or cleared to prevent action bar from breaking I just read my owners manual it says " When light loads are fired cylinder valve (L) remains closed ,allowing full power of measured gas to push against piston . When heavy loads are fired cylinder valve (L) opens in proportion to to the increased power of the load and allows the required amount of measured gas to escape ,thus equalizing the push of gas against the piston " Please remove my last comment as I was mistaken It seems like no adjustment is required it adjusts itself you just have to keep those washers and ports free of carbon buildup sorry I need to read more before making a comment
Brilliant review!
Thanks Will - your words are a great encouragement.
Learned a lot, thank you.
Thanks Edward
great guns!
I didn't know anyone would dare to make a floating chamber in anything beyond .22 LR
I don’t know why this is so intriguing, but....it just is
Thanks for writing Jonathon.
Is the 11-48 a long action like the Auto 5 or are they all long actions like the Winchester 50 and Ithaca 51...
Hello - the 11-48 is long recoil - like the Remington 11. I think the Win. 50 uses a floating chamber - which I think is fantastic and the 50 is the most undervalued and under appreciated semi - and its performance is stellar (at least for me) - the Ithaca 51 is gas operated. Al three are fine, assuming the right loads are used. The 51 can break parts once in awhile - but that makes owing them interesting.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns There's an local online auction coming up that has a brand new winchester 50, still in the box unassembled, let me know if you want the link... Thanks for the info by the way!!
Thank you, interesting as always! I just saw one of these Brownings locally and as you say, they can be very reasonably priced. A sporting version of that Benelli is a great idea too btw, although it's a definite winner in the badassery category as it is lol
Hi! That Benelli has some kind of magic in it. Maybe it is "dark magic" - but magic nonetheless - even quiet me pics it up from time to time and pictures the hordes of evil closing in and the Benelli saving the day. Imagination can be a funny thing. : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGunshaha, awesome! Sounds like a video on how to best keep evil hordes at bay is in order. :)
From what i've experienced, Pre 80's shot guns are far superior to the stuff they make today when it comes to the fit and finish. They may not be as high tech and able to shoot as many different loads but are in general a more quality product.
I also wish they would make a sporting m4. Maybe even a 20!
How much price
I know this was about semi auto shot guns but I wanted to to comment on a recent video in the chance you might see it. Could you , at some point comment on the Carcano 91 such as how fast the action is.
I really enjoy your videos and knowledge . Thank you for this channel.
Hello - I'll make a video for sure - thank you. In the meantime, I must say I've owned several of these rifles. The mechanism is not particularly smooth and yet, I found the rifle and carbine to be entirely reliable and accurate. The Norma ammunition I used was excellent of course. There is something about the Carcano that in totality makes one feel that it might not be a good weapon; this is not what I experienced though. Italy was and is an extremely capable country and this, their military weapon, was well tested. Although not a Mauser 98, the Carcano remains a significant weapon and a very good buy in the surplus market. The ballistics of the cartridge are very fine. I ran into a fellow in the deer woods a few years ago who hunted with a Carcano "as is" from the war and according to him, he never regretted his choice.
I need some help, I have the same JC Higgins model that you have on the table it says it is the 60, I think that the difference is the adjustable choke. I have a few questions, 1st: chamber 2 3/4 or 3”, and can you use both? 2nd: using a 3” magnum high brass shells this baby works fine but kicks like a mule. When I tried 2 3/4 low brass game loads it does not cycle. When I tried 2 3/4” high brass high velocity (Federal ExpressXLR) shells it cycled but did not discharge the spent shell. Do you have any information that could help me. There are no real places for information on this gun and I am quite new to shotguns.
Thanks in advance.
Hi - please check on the side of the barrel - it should say 2 3/4 as mine does - so I use 2 3/4 shells. Have a look under the forend and see if there are brass friction rings on the magazine tube - these can be adjusted for high or low brass shells. The basic principle is : to use less powerful shells reduce friction; to use more powerful shells - increase friction. My shotgun would not work with regular 2 3/4 inch shells so I took off one of the black friction rings on the magazine tube. Maybe I was lucky but it works perfectly now. Hope this helps.
Is there any chance you could do a video on the Beretta 1200/1201FP, they are copies of the M1...
Good idea!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Do you have a Beretta ES100 I've heard good things about them. They are similar to early models of the Super Black Eagle. they have a solid bolt locking base instead of a rotating face and have good barrels apparently. Easy to take apart and clean, not that they need it with the inertia system...
Thank you for the video. Very interesting.
Sadly I'm unable to obtain an M4 where I liver since they come under "military weapons" and such are restricted here (at least for hunting - Norway).
Currently own a Benelli Supersport 5+1 12 gauge (inertia driven). Never had a jam 24-52 gram shells (1000+).
All Benelli shotguns are awesome! I'm a proud owner of a m4. Looked hard at a m2, also inertia driven, but I really wanted the m4 and eventually got one. I was not disappointed. Happy Hunting in Norway!
I have owned all types of the shotguns you have shown and i can tell you the inertia system used by benelli is fare better than anything else as far as reliability and maintenance ,In fact you almost dont need to clean them.
I've heard this from many people - they may have perfected the semi auto shotgun - it certainly seems that way. The minimal cleaning aspect makes it even better. Thanks for writing.
The Remington Versamax is the civilian sporting version of the Benelli m4.
So interesting TurtleWolf - I had no idea. I saw the twin pistons on the Remington but didn't know the Benelli has the chamber ports. I hope to have a V3 one of these days. So many guns...so little time 😂 - thanks for the note.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns the hunting version of the Remington also goes all the way from 3.5" to 2.75" and although I don't own one and haven't shot one I haven't heard any really bad reports from others who have.
Great video! Thanks. Lapel mic needed.
Hey - good idea - I'll find one. Thanks you!
USOG Benelli barrels don’t hit the bolt
Very good video just viewing it now for the first time, but you made one comment that’s not entirely true,that the Remington was a copy, browning actually went to Remington and offered the Patent but right at that time the president or CEO of Remington had a heart attack and died, at that point in time the contract went to Belgium and then shortly there after back to Remington, the name of their rifle was Remington model 11 which actually stayed into production until 1947, it’s not really that important except for the fact that It was not a copy they actually had one of the initial rights to the Patent offered to them by browning for a fee
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Just imagine for a moment that the Winchester shotgun lineup could have been the Model 97, the Model 12, the Model 21, and the Browning A5. Wow, that arguably would have been the greatest lineup of shotgun models ever made by one company. Instead, they rejected the A5 and ultimately designed the Model 1911 "Widowmaker."
Anyways, how is the Bubbagun project going?
Great comment. What a blunder. The Winchester Auto 5 - would have been fantastic. The Bubba is sleeping under my desk. Once in awhile I think I hear it whimper and it makes me feel bad that I don't do something. I cut the comb off and...I'll make a video : ) thanks for the reminder.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Certainly one of the biggest blunders in firearms history. At least Remington had the excuse that their President died of a heart attack before being able to meet with Mr. Browning on making the A5. After that, FN got the rights to produce it and the rest is history.
The Bubba just looks like such a neat project, and I like how it encourages people to look for great guns that just need some work.
My breda brescia jams when you look at it,
Hahahaha - that is a funny way to put it - yet a sad situation. I don't know much about the Breda. Why does it jam? Please let me know.
Dad bought his Browning 12 ga (early 50's), a great shotgun!
Your Dad made the right choice. Legend.
No inertia action mentioned? A semi-auto shotgun mechanism talk isn't complete without mentioning the inertia action..
Hello - You're completely correct. I like the Benelli Super Black Eagle - probably the slickest semi I'm owned; the marshes seem to be full of them.