RETURNING WORLDS SURVEY: forms.gle/rJApVBqHQjnnqKbF8 FULL RESULTS TO PART 3: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hL24cRErfCuAE9CKAAVbwV-hRKREIMf5_SNzWhNamtg/edit?usp=sharing
My most favored returning worlds are the older ones I'd like to see get the Unreal Engine treatment. Imagine a place like Wonderland getting such a massive expansion, they could go nuts with that one.
Amazing vid as always Pat! As much as I would LOVE to talk about Disney shows for 10 minutes straight, I think a returning worlds video should probs be the natural end to this and dedicating a whole vid to those out of the box properties would be... I don't wanna say pointless cuz again I LOVE me some Disney animated television but pointless is the only word that comes to mind. Maybe a fill-in-the-blank survey asking people what properties should still be talked about and if there's enough overlap on certain ones make a short vid on that? Or maybe like a tweet lol. No matter what you do it's sure to be fun, just don't frustrate yourself or burn yourself out talking about stuff that is probs never gonna make it in and that you likely don't care about. But just in case, the good Disney shows are Gravity Falls, The Owl House, DuckTales, Amphibia, Phineas and Ferb, and anything older than that is even more impossible so I'll stop there. :)
Admittedly, the worlds that I want will probably not happen but I have a lot of confidence and do not have much of a problem seeing a Monstropolis rehash (even if it's really soon) to include lore from Monsters At Work, a series set in the same Monsters Inc building.
Man, I was REALLY hoping you'd do Disney TV as Part 4. Doing TV Cartoons or TV stuff does fit with the name "Quadratum" aka "Square" (an alternate guess on that robot foot is Final Fantasy VI's Magitek Armour) or "Box" (like a TV?).
Hm, so, the theme for Part 4 will be Returning Worlds, huh? Could the theme for Part 5 be Disney Shows then? Or heck, maybe even Other Disney Games, that would be something, right? Anyway, about these Returning Worlds, the main thought process i had for the most of them, were that i would like to see Reunions being made and Promises being kept, As well as seeing how the Older Worlds would look like in the Unreal Engine, I would also like to see, how any of our other World-Traveling Protagonists would look like in the Worlds that required Sora and Pals to change forms in order to fit-in said World, i wouldn’t mind seeing a Mermaid Kairi😏. Also, i would still like to know, where King Triton’s knowledge about the Keyblade and the Wielders role within the larger scope of the Worlds came from, especially after seeing what has been presented through the X Saga, i wonder where and how exactly Triton learn about all this?
Pat saying “the music in this version doesn’t slap as much” while Will Smith’s Genie was on screen, was either a tragically overlooked joke or an ingeniously subtle one.
Back when 358/2 Days was being made, I remember that year on April Fools, one of hte big KH sites announced High School Musical was gonna be in the game, an they did a few mockup screenshots using I believe a HSM DS game and putting Roxas and Xion in it. Me and all of my friends believed it, all of my friends freaked out about how bad it was gonna be, I just said "Oh it's the minigame world" and they calmed down. After that I actually forgot about the hoax until the PS3 movie version of Days came out, and remembered "Oh yeah, that was a joke once."
I know this sounds insane but I think there's an argument to be made that The Twilight Zone *already has* Kingdom Hearts representation. Twilight Thorn's Japanese name is Twilight Zone and the first episode of the series is about a man living in a simulated town while he's actually asleep in a pod. I don't know if there's any direct parallels to the 7 Wonders or the Mansion but the whole world does involve the supernatural
I could audibly, viscerally imagine SDG reacting to Sora being a "Sidekick" and Donnie + The Goof being "Heroes"; SDG stands for Shocked, Dapper, and Gentle, respectively.
My hope is that quadratum gets the persona/TWETY treatment, where the city is “normal” but has zany things happening. I think that would allow for an avengers battle of New York, Christopher Robin, and a lot of other properties that are set in metropolises to be represented without needing separate worlds. I also am a huge supporter of Star Wars being contained to only happening during gummi travel, where each encounter gets you closer and closer to boarding the death star. It just writes itself! Also HSM in quadratum would be DOPE
That would actually fit with an idea I had wherein Palpatine and Vader fill the Maleficent role, which could be necessary if MoM wouldn't be an active antagonist this go around.
There's no precedent for Kingdom Hearts to do this ... but with how undeniably of an odd (but exciting) direction KH4 is going in, I don't see it as impossible. A Marvel world shouldn't be limited to just adapting the MCU. It shouldn't be limited by needing to be live action, or any particular immediately identifiable art style. There has been hundreds of artistic interpretations of Marvel properties throughout comics, movies, TV shows, and video games. Kingdom Hearts should go crazy and allow Nomura to create his own weird interpretation of the Marvel universe. No need for actor likeliness, just need to have some iconic heroes in costume for the trailers and you'll be able to capture that Marvel fan market. Huge potential.
I always thought it be cool if Marvel went to Disney and Square and said , “Let’s just cut to the chase here. You probably want to use Marvel but then there’s the mess of, what film, the characters, the canon, yada yada. So Square here you go, your own universe in the greater marvel multiverse to play with.”
Square Enix did create action figures of what Marvel heroes like Iron Man, Spider-man, Captain America, Thor etc would look like if Tetsuya Nomura designed them so it is possible
As someone who’s been obsessed with Star Wars ever since I was 8, I’d like to add a few things. Firstly, you didn’t mention it, but SW is not only one of the most famous franchises of all time, but Nomura has stated in the past that he is a massive fan of it. So it checks out an even more important box than just being successful. Let’s be honest, the reason Olympus is such a recurring world isn’t because the Disney executives are pushing it, it’s because Nomura wants it. Secondly I’d just like to mention that even if by some chance we don’t get a Star Wars world, its presence still is and has been felt in the series for a good while now, due to Nomura’s aforementioned fondness for the franchise. Everyone has heard the famous joke about how Xehanort and Terra are literally Palpatine and Anakin, and also Mark Hammil was chosen to voice Eraqus due to his role as Luke. Eraqus who by an astounding coincidence, tried to kill his student to stop the plans of the Big Bad full seven years before the god awful Episode VIII existed. But I’d say the first really obvious SW nod was just… Everything about Xemnas. Not only he wears all black and has yellow eyes, just like the Sith, his Ethereal Blades and nothingness attacks are extremely reminiscent of the red lightsabers and Force lightning technique that they use. But it runs even deeper than that. Many of KH’s most important and recurring themes are very similar to Star Wars. Not just the light versus darkness stuff (if anything that’s just fantasy writing 101). For instance, unchecked ambition and the consequences it brings are at the core of the villains of both series. This also leads to the ultimate moral that true happiness and fulfillment doesn’t come from physical power, but from friendship and connection. Both Xehanort and Vader chose to pursuit power and knowledge, and their ambition brought ruin to the people they cared for as well as themselves. Destiny is also a core notion of both SW and KH, with Xehanort, Palpatine and Vader believing in the seeming inevitability of a “written” or pre-determined destiny, only to be proven wrong by Sora and Luke, both of whom fought against their supposed “destinies” to save the people important to them. So even if Star Wars never sees the light of day in Kingdom Hearts, I still find it interesting to think about and analyze how SW impacted KH. (Those last three paragraphs were honestly just for me. I said I’ve been obsessed with Star Wars since I was eight, and I am also obsessed with themes, so…)
SW would be a great fit, no matter if Nomura uses the original or the prequel trilogies. Just as long as KH never touches the Disney-created content, we're golden. Hell, I'd love to see Sora falling into one of Gryph's cons.
with you on the notion that these franchises are worth comparing story-wise, even if i don't agree they're actually cohesive as side-by-side stories. will violently disagree on last jedi, though, which is basically my kingdom hearts brain's logical conclusion to the ending The Force Awakens set up. good movies. (the less said about Rise of Skywalker the better, though)
Star Wars is already in the KH4 trailer so we don't need to worry there. Only speculation is which trilogy, and sadly the most likely is the sequel trilogy, but the original trilogy would be dearly loved, and with how Nomura loves his classics, I have high hopes for Sora talking with Luke Skywalker and fighting Darth freaking Vader.
Ditto, although I think the reason we had to wait two months for this one is that it takes time to do the video editing and scripting, along with giving his thought on each of the Live-Action Disney properties. I bet if he does another one but on his opinion on which Disney worlds would return for the next KH game, we might wait another month or two.
Genuinely my favorite series of yours. As a kid I used to imagine all sorts of potential ideas for using more obscure or out-there properties for KH and this is scratching that exact itch. I would definitely love both a returning worlds and an other/TV/etc. video, I know KH has flirted with the idea before (they were gonna use Gargoyles for that one canceled mobile game)
I think Hocus Pocus is tailor made for KH4 given the rumor of dealing with the concept of death and unreality. The Sanderson Sisters can be brought back and have to steal the Hearts of children in order to cement their existence again. A boss gauntlet of the Sisters would be amazing as well, but I do see our party member being Billy Butcherson rather than the kids or Binx. We could even say Dani is a New Seven Hearts as well given how integral she was to the plot, maybe the Sisters are gunning for her specifically because devouring one of those is better than a normal one. It’s a bit of plot rehashing but I think it writes itself!
I'm fully onboard for this! Much like Haunted Mansion, its a solid stand-in for Halloween Town as a spooky-themed world. You've got a visually striking environment with the town of Salem decorated for Halloween and the Sanderson's cottage and cemetery being the central landmarks.
Right? And if we really want to tie it into KH lore we can give them knowledge of Kingdom Hearts and change their goal to achieve “untold wisdom” which has an added perk of youth, rather than that being their main goal. Also, I bet 100% their actresses would be down to do the voices!
I would love a _Hocus Pocus_ world, however when it comes to Disney worlds that appear in the _Kingdom Hearts_ games they are usually chosen based on the following: 1. Which Disney films Nomura and the team want as worlds for the specific KH game. 2. The themes that the specific returning and new Disney worlds based on that Disney or Pixar film have in common to the theme of the specific KH game (e.g. Friendship, Trust, Connections, Promises, etc.) - Which is debatable. 3. The Story the Disney world can offer for Sora's development and in the game's story. 4. The gameplay value and the environment that the world can offer. 5. Level Variety. 6. Disney and/or the fans giving Requests and suggestions to which films they want to see added in the game to Nomura and the team (e.g. Big Hero 6 in KH3, Hunchback in DDD). Not to mention Nomura also chooses worlds based on a Thematic and Aesthetic standpoint, so literally it's up to Nomura if he want to have Hocus Pocus or choose a different world and save Hocus Pocus for another KH game.
@@RalphSnackshi To be honest, if they're going to do that, the terrain needs way more variation because just doing 90's small town Massachusetts is boring.
Personally, I think a video on the disney animated TV shows might be worthwhile. There are a lot of fun properties to draw from, like Gargoyles, Darkwing Duck, Gummi Bears, Owl House, Gravity Falls, Star Vs. (despite its issues), Amphibia, Phineas and Ferb, etc.
I’d dig a Kim Possible world. Not sure how that would play out entirely, but I’d like Kim and Ron as party members. I also think the TV show would also be the most likely scenario for us to get a proper Lilo & Stitch world set on Kaua'i. The movie is a bit too relationship-centric to work as a KH world imo.
I think the problem is likelihood most Disney channel shows aren't that well known in the general public so most of them as much as it hurts to say will probably never get Kingdom Hearts Worlds trust me I love Gravity Falls I love Owl House I love amphibia I die to see them get Worlds in Kingdom Hearts it just ain't happening Phineas and Ferb and duck Tales of the only two that actually had a shot an even then Slim
@@kwproductions6737 same phineas and ferb wouldn't work because of it's status quo nature and generally less action heavy focus having all the characters not being allowed to interact with each other at the same time also sucks because you would have to have sora and friends not interact with half the cast if they say teamed up with perry to fight doof then A they can't have dialogue with perry because he is a platypus and B can't interact with the family or the boys or they would blow his cover if they hang out with the boys then perry will be a mindless pet barely any action no doof norm monogram the parents etc the only one I see working is ducktales 2017 especially now with the unreality stuff where alternate versions of older characters seems to be the way to go the show is adventure based making it good for action plenty of workable party members etc
I think the easiest, best way to implement MCU would be to make a "New York City" world where Sora Donald and Goofy simply team up with the original Avengers because the city is under attack of the Heartless, with one of the big baddies of KH4 leading the invasion for some reason. Basically Avengers 2012 but with the Heartless instead of the Loki army.
imagine if they did battleworld similar to kh1 and 2 olympus as a tournament where you could fight any random hero or villain potentially from any universe to tie in with the unreality thing we could have a 3vs1 with all the live action spider men you could have to fight the comic big hero six to contrast them with the ones from kh3 etc etc and if people don't know who they are maybe the announcer could explain who they are before the match or an optional sign could say it outside the arena it could be great
If Highschool Musical is referenced in Kingdom Hearts it better be massive. Not just an Atlantica-styled mini game music world. But somehow integrated into every world, the combat system, and the overarching plot. The keyblade is replaced with a basketball, Nobodies are created when Sharpay calls them losers, Sora sings all the time about how he wants to sing, etc. If they're going to be stupid, be VERY stupid.
I think a Maleficent world could be really interesting. Having Sora initially view her as an enemy and come to realize what the new version of her went though and her motivation might give Sora a chance to view things a little less black and white.
Not to mention it screws with his memories again given the events of Kingdom Hearts 1. Only problem is that such a situation might be too similar to the confrontation with 20's Pete in Timeless River.
Also, it might be interesting having OG Maleficent there. With both her and Sora thinking that she'll remain a villain, with Maleficent being the more outward about it, and Sora saying that he doesn't believe she has to be the villain, but subconsciously treating and reacting to her in that way.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 Yup, helping Sora confront his unconscious bias against villains and helping him towards a path that would allow for him to reach out to his enemies who have redeeming qualities and give them a second chance, or allow them to works towards it.
It is only now that I realize no one suggested The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010) for this topic. Not that I think it would've had a chance or be a popular choice to begin with, but wizard Nicolas Cage would be my prefered Disney incluson of him over National Treasure.
It would feel like a fever dream, but so does most of Kingdom Hearts and I love Nicolas Cage (and share a birthday with him) so I'm 10,000% here for it.
I had my friends fill out the survey with me, and they were ranking their want scores pretty low, like between 1 to 5, and then we reached The Country Bears. "TEN! TEN! WE NEED A CHRISTOPHER WALKEN BOSS FIGHT!"
I really like your take on a Maleficent world. Having our version meet and contrast with a more empathetic version would be really interesting. You definitely changed my firm "do not want" stance
"Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" had a sequel called "Honey, I Blew Up the Kid" (and no, it doesn't involve exploding children), this means that world can include both shrinking and growth if Ant-man isn't available.
These were EXTREMELY fun videos! Thank you so much for taking the time to make them! I don't remember if these got a survey devoted to them but if you wanted to consider some really silly worlds you could always do Disney TV shows. I don't think any of them have a very good chance but I'd love a Kim Possible or Phineas and Ferb world. But I also imagine there's probably like, a million shows to go through so I don't blame you if that's too much work lol
Love this video! I absolutely need a Sharpay boss fight with epic remix of Fabulous blaring in the background. 10/10 NEED! I would also love to see you explore some other DCOM classics like Halloweentown, Camp Rock, Twitches, etc. While they’d be unlikely I just want to see how much the fans would like them/how they could work in KH4!
I have loved this series so much so i know i would want a returning worlds installment, but even if you don't include that i would still want to see you like a conclusion episode. throughout this series you've said how some worlds are more likely than others based on environments, so i'd like to see you build out a roster for what you think/want the kh4 worlds to be
Yeah, I'd love that. Like a core 7 worlds with a select handful of honorable mentions, just using the highest scores to go off of, whether it's a dream pick 7 vs. most likely 7 or overall highest rated.
KH4 should have its first multi-movie world with Peter Pan, Pooh Bear, Mary Poppins, 101 Dalmatians, and Great Mouse Detective. Just all running their stories all at the same exact time in London.
As much as I would love an _Enchanted_ world, due to the "fish-out-of-water" story and the Live-Action aesthetic that could tie to the Unreality/Quadratum, I don't know how the story for _Enchanted_ would fit in with _Kingdom Hearts_ and what conflict would the world have. Because the only conflicts that happened throughout the film is mostly on whether Giselle wants to live in New York or Andalasia, Prince Edward trying to bring Giselle back home and Nathaniel attempting to kill Giselle at orders of Queen Narissa. Speaking of Narissa, I think another thing that could hinder Enchanted from becoming a world is that Narissa doesn't come in to become a huge threat until the climax of the movie to deal with Giselle after Nathaniel had failed to kill her, plus New York has been utilized *A LOT* as a setting in most of the movies from Disney especially the Live-Action films (e.g. Newsies, Sorcerer's Apprentice, The Avengers, etc.).
@@Marliemac Not to mention like I said before, their really isn't a big major conflict that is happening in the first 2 acts of the film, cause the *ONLY* conflicts that happened throughout the film is mostly on whether Giselle wants to live in New York or Andalasia, Prince Edward trying to bring Giselle back home to Andalasia and Nathaniel attempting to kill Giselle at orders of Queen Narissa. Even Queen Narissa doesn't come in to become a huge threat until the climax of the movie when she arrived to New York to kill Giselle herself after Nathaniel failed to kill Giselle.
@@EChacon To be fair, it's not as if Kingdom Hearts hasn't dealt with more small conflict stuff before. (I wouldn't exactly call Lion King big in that sense, especially since a good chunk of the film is set BEFORE everything goes to shit.)
I think star wars is practically guaranteed most likely because it just makes sense imo. I have a feeling Disney will be pushing a lot for marvel but I personally would much prefer the incredibles over a marvel world. I like marvel movies but the incredibles is something I've been hoping for for a while in the series. This video is super good so far! You put a lot of work in it and I think it definitely shows. Nice ^^
@@pippo17173 yeah thats why I'm thinking it's guaranteed. I would hope they wouldn't just tease it. I hope it won't be a dark aqua thing again and it end up just being an Easter egg/snippet rather than a world/part of the whole story.
Here are the my thoughts on what worlds from this list I would like to see in KH4: 1. Cinderella: I think it would be fun. I always wished Sora had visited the Castle of Dreams. I also think that after being plunged into Darkness, the Castle of Dreams could be “reborn” in “live action” in Quadratum. 2. Christopher Robin: Yeah, I think Sora filling in for Christopher Robin and visiting the same Pooh in a different font (Quadratum/“Unreality”) would be really fun. The book can exist outside of “Reality” or there can be multiple 100 Acre Wood books. 3. Maleficent: I see this as a delve into Maleficent’s origins. That, or a look at the hero she could’ve been. Regardless, I would love to see a battle of Maleficents. 4. MCU: Thor: Love and Thunder: While I know “Thor: Love and Thunder” is a relatively new movie and not a very well received one, the “Eternity” world in “Thor: Love and Thunder” looks a whole lot like “The Final World” in Kingdom Hearts. I would love for there to be a connection between the two and I think that Gorr could work really well with the Heartless as he has succumbed to Darkness himself. 5. Enchanted: This one’s a fun one. I can see Sora and Giselle being friends. And I can see a team up between Maleficent and Queen Narissa. 6. Avatar: I’m gonna be honest. I’ve never seen Avatar and thus have never understood the hype. But this one would be another fun one. Sci-fi mixing with Magic. We could see a blue-cat-Sora. These fantasy creatures could fight off Heartless. It would be really fun! 7. Star Wars (Original Trilogy): I think as long as we have a lightsaber fight between Sora (who is taking Luke Skywalker’s place) and Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, who is another who’s heart has succumbed to Darkness, and a whole lot of Heartless, I think that would be enough. Maybe have Ventus, Aqua, and Terra blow up the Death Star. I dunno. 8. Once Upon A Time: This one wasn’t on the list, but I’d like to include it! “Once Upon A Time” is just The Brothers Grimm’s Kingdom Hearts. I would love to see an interaction between Sora and “The Dark One”/Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold. I think he would really mess with Sora’s head and give a ton of character development to Sora. Others I would like to see interact with Sora are Emma, Henry, and Hook. Sora likes pirates so seeing an alternate version of Captain Hook who more closely resembles a domesticated Jack Sparrow would be interesting. I think Sora and Henry would have a lot in common. And I think that both Emma and Sora could benefit from meeting each other. I also think it would be cool to see Rumplestiltskin either fight, control, or study Heartless as well as giving valuable information on The Keyblade. In addition, Maleficent vs Regina Mills would be fun.
My prediction list: “Disney” movies: - Christopher Robin (live action whinnie) - Alice in wonderland (live action) - maleficent These 3 seem like perfect KH4 games. Live action, while revisiting previous franchises within the KH universe in a different way. A lot of potential here. The popular live action movies: - Star Wars (it’s Star Wars, come on) - Mcu (if any I could see thor, as Asgard would make for a great location and I think works best out of the mcu) - avatar (number 1 box office movie in the world with numerous sequels coming out, Disney would not miss that opportunity. Also has a lot of potential for stunning locations and gameplay)
My whole prediction and I 70% sure about it: 1- Coco 2- Encanto 3- Moana 4- Frozen 2 5- Star Wars 6- Zootopia 7- The Incredibles 8- Inside Out 9- Raya and The Last Dragon 10- Avatar 11- Cars 12- Toys Story(maybe 3) 13- Brave 14- Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 15- Bugs Life 16- The Jungle Book live action. But I also hoping for and want: 1- Atlantis 2- Treasure Planet 3- The Great Mouse Detective 4- The Black Cauldron 5- Emperor New Groove 6- Kingsman 7- Sky High 8- The Tomorrow Land 9- Princesses and The Frog 10- Frankenweenie 11- Indiana Jones 12- Hot Shots! 13- Alien 14- Predator 15- Sky High 16- Kung Pow! Enter the Fist. But 80% believe that they will not make it.
Congrats on getting this one done, man! It was a filled with a lot of blander properties and while there’s certainly potential for a number of these, it’s generally not as exciting as the animated stuff. But yeah! Good work! 👏 Personally, I’d love to see a ranking for TV show properties, even though KH hasn’t really dipped it’s toes in that pool yet, I think there’s so many cool possibilities here. Not just for the characters and worlds themselves, but cool art direction and in-style transformations for SDG. I’d also just generally be interested in seeing how popular this idea is amongst the general KH fanbase or if it’s mostly just fellow animators like myself who find this idea appealing. Either way, if the returning worlds one ends up being the last poll, I totally get it. This has been a fun look at the possibilities!
I feel like everyone who remembers Gargoyles would want it in. And everyone who grew up with any of the shows really even in recent years Gravity Falls was so popular
On the note of the different imaginings of the established characters, _Once Upon a Time_ might actually be a rather interesting addition. I don't think they'd ever actually do it, but the premise of the characters all needing to escape to a different world to avoid the destruction of their own rings very KH1, with Storybrooke acting as a stand-in for Traverse Town. Years ago when I watched it, it very much felt to me just like a watered-down version of Kingdom Hearts. In terms of combat there's, uh... Rumpelstiltskin? Sure, yeah, let's go with that. Awesome video Pat, as always!
I would love to see a part four to this! I feel like this series is really helping to fill the gap without KH4 news, and its fun because we don't know much about this game so the potential is endless. I would say make a miscellaneous part 4. Some TV Shows (Definitely Phineas and Ferb and Gravity Falls), some Fox, any other left overs.
If we're talking about themes and aesthetic, Hocus Pocus fits in very nicely. If KH IV focuses on themes like death and rebirth, well, Hocus Pocus revolves around a dark version of that with the Sanderson Sisters being brought back to life. Also, I just really want a chance to hit Winifred Sanderson with a giant key. It sounds like a good time to me.
As someone who adores the Disney classics, I would love for stuff like Mary Poppins and Bedknobs and Broomsticks to be included, but honestly, you've sold me on absolute nonsense worlds like Holes, High School Musical and National Treasure, especially the motion flow around the Liberty Bell :')
If you had to include 1 live action remake or adjacent film, it should be Alice in Wonderland. Since it was one of the first worlds Sora went to in KH1, it'd be a good juxtaposition for his journey in KH4. It's much darker, it could show the audience how unreality is entirely separate, Sora's alone, etc.
You mentioning Inspector gadgets penny as a princess Of heart is actually very fitting, as Michelle Trachtenberg’s other Disney movie is ice Princess! :-) Which I actually thought of years ago how it could work as a kingdom hearts world/Minigame
I also want to say, if Unreality goes all in on the concept of live action remakes being alternate realities of worlds Sora has already been to, a Christopher Robin world could be really interesting for some lore explaining. Sora meets the Unreality Pooh, who, of course, has no clue who Sora is, but their friendship grows as you visit Pooh's world. By the end, Pooh says something like "Boy, it feels lile I've known you my whole life," and we get this little peek into the idea that the heart of these Unreality characters are, more or less, the same as the versions we already know.
Yeah a part 4 is a good idea. Some worlds have more potential than others and with kh4 trailer and dark road in mind, a world like Olympus has reason to return
Jungle Book not having its animated counterpart already represented in the series could create an interesting scenario where both Jungle Book (Animated) and Jungle Book (Live Action) are worlds simultaneously, helping to directly contrast how the Light and Unreality versions of worlds differ from one another. This would be particularly helpful for anyone new to the series, who might not be familiar with the KH versions of worlds in previous games and thus have no baseline to compare the new live action iterations to.
I think one thing we haven't considered (or I haven't seen much talk about) is the possibility that KH4 won't have traditional worlds separate from each other, but moreso one hub world with a few main areas that many different IPs could crossover into, and maybe lead to smaller areas connected to IPs that are more fantastical like Toontown or Enchanted's fairytale kingdom. New York, London, the Amazon, and Quadratum/not-Tokyo alone could contain the vast amount of these live-action films, and having outer space travel could easily toss in Star Wars, John Carter, Avatar, Treasure Planet and more into one connected galaxy! The individual ″non-hub″ worlds would be smaller, yes (I'm thinking KH1 or DDD), but the idea of traveling around not-Earth and fake-Space, seeing where all these live-action events happen in relation to each other, and basically playing KH mixed with GTA or the Spider-Man/Arkham games sounds really cool!
Theory: KH4 will have several "hubs" that each contain a massive crossover between multiple similar IPs. "Space" could have Star Wars, Treasure Planet, and maybe some cameos along the lines of Lilo and Stitch or Lightyear. "The Sea" could hit Moana, Pirates, Luca, and possibly Nemo. "The Jungle" for Jungle Book, etc... Its just a thought, but something that might work, assuming property rights and such are settled. Party members would probably also need to be handed out situationally instead of being able to just swap between any and all of them, and come to think of it there would be a LOT of chraracters to design, but hey, it could be a possibility, as big as games are these days.
The City Sora wakes up in could have The Avengers, Oliver and Company, Bolt, and maybe even cameos from The Wild and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice (2010), amongst others.
Christopher Robin world that is where the data to create the 100 Acre Wood world originally came from and explore the connections between unreality and the dark seeker saga. Maybe Maleficent could be a primordial being and be a good guy in unreality and fight against other Maleficent?
The talk of Christopher Robin got me thinking about the prospect of the plotline being important to Sora in Quadratum. Without having seen the movie but knowing from trailers that the 100 Acre Wood characters visit CR and remind him of what it's like to be a kid (Or something like that) I could see them, or at least Pooh showing up in their updated looks in Quadratum and helping Sora find his way out and back to the real world. Then afterwards he could visit the book for the usual mini game fun. Might be a good way to follow up on the weakened connection touched on in KH3 and giving the WtP characters more involvement after their less than favourable envolvement in KH3. Would be a very different use of the characters than has been typically in the series but it could be cute.
Christopher Robin could work in having it be the reverse to how sora normally visits Pooh and friends, Pooh and company begin getting worried about how sora hasn’t visited in awhile so they leave the book and with quadratum having the realistic looks that can easily explain away why they’re not cartoony. Edit: I have no idea how they’ll leave the book that’s not my problem to figure out but yeah
Hehehe, i feel like you and I has the same thought process about some of these, especially with the Maleficent Movies, if there will ever be a concept of Alternate Realities, Alternate Worlds, that are basically different versions of Worlds already visited, i think a World based on those two Movies would be a good entry point for a concept like that and the thought of having the (from what I understand) more Redeemable Modern Maleficent meeting, interacting and maybe even facing the more Pure-Evil Classic Maleficent is very fascinating. Anyway, yes, i would very much like to see more Parts of this, they have been very interesting and I feel like they add to the anticipation for Kingdom Hearts 4.
it wasn't on this survey and even then, I knew it never would appear in a KH game, but I always thought Chronicles of Narnia would have been a really cool fit. This was long before KH3 was even officially announced. Never gonna happen now since grassy plains and ice castle have been covered before
It actually was on the survey originally, but I removed it before posting because the legal situation seemed too complicated (I think Disney did the first two movies but not third/doesn't have the rights anymore?)
@@RegularPat Shame. They were very fun movies. But even if Disney still owned the rights, it's way way way passed its prime. And Prince Caspian, while not really a flop, was a massive MASSIVE decline in box office compared to the Lion, Witch, and Waredrobe (420 million vs 745 million). I can still at least beg Nomura for Roger Rabbit and Wreck It Ralph then rage on the deck of my patio when they don't get in
@@BanjoGeek Not to mention Prince Caspian's Box Office soured Walden Media's relationship with Disney and as a result, Disney dropped out on distributing The Voyage of the Dawn Treader because they feared that the budget would increase during the production and release of the film.
Too bad Disney didn't buy up Adam Sandler by now. I'd love to see a Click world where Sora, Donald, and Goofy all get ill, chug tussin, gobble sugary treats, fall asleep in a mattress store, and have a shared life changing psychedelic fever dream. Plus the remote's mechanics would be a lot of fun, and Nomura could exploit it to do wacky and unexpected things with the lore.
Speaking for my own wishes, I personally voted for the Haunted Mansion to be there only because of the potential for the ride itself. Forget the movie, I was thinking of Constance Hatchaway the entire time. And that was my mentality for a lot of these properties too, because there's a lot of potential for original ideas regarding these.
The only remake I can see working is Alice In Wonderland (2010), the story is that this is the original Wonderland but ravaged by the Heartless who overan Wonderland because of The darkness in the Queen Of Hearts, which would explain how everything became gloomy and less colourful, the party members would be Alice and The Mad Hatter
@@RegularPat the idea of the Queen Of Hearts attracting Heartless came from 358/2 days where the same thing happened and Roxas and Luxord had to fix the problem
Y'know, it's weird, outta all of these, the one I wanna see most IS Mary Poppins. Hope kinda dwindles for a full blown world though, but I wanna see it return, mostly because it lives in my head rent free as one of my faves, I wanna fly from anywhere with a keyblade that can turn into an umbrella and I wanna see how Sora pronounces Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious lmfao
I mean…Star Wars in KH is pretty much an inevitability, between Xemnas’s definitely-not-lightsabers, Mickey’s fighting style being very reminiscent of Prequel Yoda, and even the assault on the second Death Star all being in KH2, along with the themes of light and dark, Master Eraqus being voiced by Mark Hamill, and Terra’s story being very reminiscent of Anakin, Nomura has gotta have wanted Star Wars since the moment Disney got ahold of it
Indy would be a wacky underdog pick for KH. I just can't see it happening sadly. Given past censorship and ratings changes (Xigbar losing his sniper rifle and age rating being raised due to pistols and booze in Port Royal, both in KH2), Indiana Jones being such a down to earth, gun-toting, violent series makes it unlikely
i want a starwars world in kh4 to be kinda like kh1 monstro in how you get there initially where you're travelling and get tractor beamed into the death star, while Sora tries to figure out where he is you meet up with some star wars characters, heck maybe Sora gets Terra'd and joins the empire for a little bit which leads to him down on endor until he meets the resistance and switches sides
The chronicles of Narnia would be amazing world to visit as Sora and help the sons of Adam & daughters of Eve kill the white which in pt1 and when we go back catch up to prince caspian or the last battle. Another world would be Avatar for sure because those two are movies that deal with not only nostalgia but they’re worlds are KH4 #Worthy
It wasn’t on your list, but I want to toss in Mary Poppins Returns. I have no doubt they’d want to do the original first, but there are a few reasons I think it would work better and has potential as a full world: As discussed with other movies, there are themes of grieving loved ones who’ve passed on as a grown Michael Banks’s wife, the new Banks children’s’ mum, passed before the film takes place (and maybe finally we can bring up Sora’s mom?!? 🤣) It has a lot of beautiful and diverse visual styles, from CGI to 2D, each blended w/ the live action, which I think would make for a visually stunning world. You could explore a little of 1930s London w/ the lamplighters, I think it’d be visually distinct enough from Quadratum to work. Sora climbing Big Ben might bring up some memories of flying with Peter Pan tho lol. I visualize it as being like a more expansive Timeless River type world where you can visit the various locales as “sub-worlds” to explore, with the children’s room acting as a hub where you could interact with different objects representing each one to access them (ex: the bathtub for the undersea world w/ giant toys, the Royal Doulton Bowl to visit the music hall, a balloon takes you up to the “lovely London sky”, etc.) The movie’s plot hinges around the Banks family scrambling to find proof of the shares in the bank left to them by Mr. Banks from the original film so they can pay their loans before 17 Cherry Tree Lane is repossessed. Spoiler alert: Michael, who wanted to be an artist but gave up on the dream because it didn’t make money to work as a bank teller at the bank he owns shares in, had unknowingly drawn a picture of his family on the back of the certificate, which through undoubtedly Mary’s invisible touch ends up being cut up by the youngest child and used to mend a kite. I could see these pieces being scattered and Sora having to jump around each of the sub-worlds to find them. As for why pretty anime boy is trusted and invited into the home of a 1930’s British family? Mary summoned him to help 🤷 that feels in character, and I love the implications lol. I’d love to see Emily Blunt’s slightly more scrutinizing Mary correct Sora’s posture and manners but saying “he’ll have to do” before sending him on his mission.
I think you can make some interesting thematic arguments for the recent disney channel animated shows like amphibia and the owl house, of course that's a lot stuff to binge
For many years I've always had an idea for how they could incorporate the MCU or just Marvel as a whole into Kingdom Hearts and that is to have it fill the roll of the 100 Acre Wood from KH1 and 2. I'm not talking about the minigame aspect of 100 Acre, I'm talking about how you access the world: the Torn Pages. To me it, makes way too much sense that if one of the two biggest names in all of comics is going to be in KH that the way access the world is by finding torn comic pages, or even full comic books, in other worlds like you had to do previously. I see two ways of them doing the world itself this way. The first being that each page you find leads to a self contained comic book like story. Each one would be its own things where Sora teams up with that issues hero to take on that issues villain, like teaming up with Spider-Man to fight Doc Ock in a one-shot adventure. But I'm assuming that if Marvel is going to be in KH at all then it'll be through the lens of the MCU which is where idea two comes in. If they stick with the 5 page setup from prior games then 4 of the 5 pages could be reserved for abridged versions of the individual movies of the big 4 of the Avengers: Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America. Then you have the 5th page drop you right in the middle of the Battle of New York from Avengers. That might seem like a pretty large scale and probably unrealistic plan but hey weirder things have happened to this series. To top it off I thought a neat kind of "icing on the cake" idea would be how you actually enter the world. All the comics you find are housed in a comic book store in Quadratam that's run by non other than the late great Stan Lee and when you complete the world you get a keyblade called "Excelsior" or "True Believer." But if they didn't want to or couldn't use Stan Lee's likeness I guess another Disney character could run the store though I'm not sure who. Frankly my backup character would be Deadpool for no real reason other than Deadpool could almost fit in anywhere and we all would just kind of accept it. I did not mean to make this an entire essay nor did I realize how much thought I've actually put into this. Realistically it would probably be an MCU world accessed like all the others but I thought this would be a neat way to give some uniqueness to a franchise that may otherwise struggle with finding an identity in a game where it seems like a big cityscape is already going to be your home base for this adventure.
I really appreciate all the work you've put into these vids Pat. I don't think anyone in their right mind would begrudge you taking a break. If it interests you, there could be a 'just-for-fun-TV-shows-we'd-like-to-see' survey without the prediction component since the likelihood is so up in the air. Up to you of course.
I’m personally banking on 1964’s For The Love Of Willadean from Walt Disney’s Wonderful World of Colour being a major world in KH4 in which Sora explores a haunted house and gets shot at by an old man for touching his prize watermelon
45:42. He's also had his own big game since the 7th generation, which has just released and has proven to be a home run. (Great Circle.) No clue for sales, but the critical success is off the charts so I doubt Nomura hasn't noticed.
East High School isn't the Atlantica replacement that we deserve, but the one that we need. And yes, Sora must help Nic Cage kidnap the President before the Master of Masters does. Only the president knows the location of the black box that contains the Infinity Gauntlet.
Leaving a second comment just to say I enjoyed this video! I know it was a gruelling project but I think the script really turned out and that classic Regular Patrick charm still comes through even when he has to slog through talking about stuff that has no chance or relevance. KH4 World Watch Part 3 is NOT a waste of effort! 💪😤
31:40 LMAO!!! I'm sorry but that was great!!! That was awesome, "I got some old shit if you want some old shit!" I rate that a funny of 8/10. Probably wasn't meant to be funny but the timing was out of left field when talking about the former lmao
There's another thing to consider also, in that they're more likely going to focus on fewer worlds, but much larger and longer in scope than previous KH games. So I doubt Haunted Mansion would get in because it would be a pretty limited area space.
Even fewer than KH3? I feel like hosting less than 7 disney properties would be a pretty big miss especially marketing-wise. And i say that as someone who thought kh3 should've focused less on disney and more on original worlds.
Also I realize The Black Hole and Willow weren't thrown in. Not that I blame people for not remembering them but I think it's fun to imagine what a world based on them would be like.
I'm not saying I want this, but I could see there being some sort of COM/DDD treatment with the previous worlds that have since gotten a "live-action" treatment where Sora traverses the world in its reality state, and Donald, Goofy, and whoever goes through the same world in it's animated state. It could be cool, could be a drag, and could lead to some optional postgame content where if the gang reunites by the end of this story they can go through the other versions of the worlds they didn't see when playing through the main game. Anyways, always love the content, keep up the great work!
I looked it up and this live-action movie is (sadly) not owned by Disney and thus is impossible, but while my brain thought it was, I fell in love with the idea, so I'm just going to throw it out there onto the internet. "Sharkboy and Lavagirl" would make an incredible KH world! You have two obvious allies to help you in combat, you have a varied and unique setting of Drool as it was literally thought up by a child, you have two villains and a double twist as to who is the real final boss, a blurred line between reality and fantasy, and even the Crystal Heart which is integral to the movie. Plus, either/both the Drool and reality counterparts of the Snow Princess would make great princesses of heart for this reason. I really wish this could have been a possibility, but even if it was, I highly doubt it would be a likely pick.
I like the idea of having a mix of both prequel and OT trilogies. It's heavily reliant on the fact of "world returning" making a return though if not just spreading the story out to three games. Basically the first visit would be episode 3. I want it to start on episode 3 is because I love the idea of Sora making a friend who falls to darkness/the dark side, and actually stays there. I really can't think of an issue where he has dealt with a friend/ally and they turned evil and stayed evil so I think that could be something interesting for him to deal with. Anakin's downfall could obviously be a parallel to Riku and what he could've been if he embraced and went full darkness. I kinda have a general outline of how the events of episode 3 would go but I'm mainly going by themes here. Anyway, episode 3 would play out, you end with Sora distraught at the fact that one of his friends/allies fell to darkness and he couldn't save him. Debating on whether i want Sora to know Anakin goes by Darth Vader. I think there's both positives and negatives for both sides. Next time we come back, it would be episode 5. I really don't think there's much in episode 4 to be had and just starting the OT here would be better. The only real thing would be meeting with Obi Wan again but he appears as a force ghost so there's really no point in my opinion. Here is where the debate of Sora having the knowledge of Anakin being Vader creeps in. On one hand, sora knowing kinda brings a conflict where he might think it's better to tell Luke but Obi Wan and maybe even Yoda are like "nah", so they're telling him to lie to Luke. I don't think Sora has ever lied to his friends before so it could be interesting. But on the other hand, Sora not knowing Anakin is Vader could be interesting to see him reminisce about Anakin, much like Obi Wan did, only to have the harsh reality be is that Anakin survived and is now Vader. And he has to come to terms with the fact that not only did he presume Anakin dead (although they won't say the word), he has been around for this long and actively partook in the many atrocities he committed. At the end of episode 3, sora could've still had a bit of hope that Anakin could still come back, much like Padme. This revelation however, could flip his perspective and have him think "there's no hope for him. He's actually gone" This would impact his view going into episode 6. If he knows Anakin was Vader the whole time, it would mainly be a sorrowful fight for Sora. A fight between a father, a son, and a friend. But if he didn't know, he could be more bitter. Resentment for having once called Anakin a friend when Anakin has lived the past 30 years as the right hand man to a dictator. It's only when he sees Vader throw Palpatine down the shaft and saving him and Luke from death by electrocution that he sees the Anakin he once knew again, although a tiny speck of it. While I know this exact rough outline is probably not gonna happen, it's one of the few conceptual worlds I'd love to see purely for thematic purposes. Yes it'd be cool to have a 2v1 with Vader on cloud city or death star 2. Or even the duel on Mustafar, but I want to see Sora come to terms with the fact that someone he called an ally/friend is now someone he has to call an enemy and there's no bringing them back to the light. At least not for a long while but that's way after the fact Vader has committed many atrocities in the name of the Empire But that's just my ideal take on incorporating star wars into Kingdom Hearts
I'd love to see a World Watch video talking about popular non-Disney animated movies, not really as serious discussion (because we all know we're not randomly getting a DreamWorks property world of course) but just as a fun thought experiment. I'm curious about stuff like "what'd have a higher audience want score? Shrek or Kung Fu Panda" and that kinda schtick.
Okay, I’ve always thought that an Old Yeller world would be cool. Just replace the dog with a heartless. Also I think a mix of a prairie and an American country town setting would be interesting. I can’t recall if its been done before
Ive always had this idea for a star wars world, takes place during return of the jedi. I like the idea of luke and any other appearing jedi hard downplaying sora and telling him to stay back etc because he has no force abilities , world plot happens etc, fast forward to a 2v2 luke and sora vs vader and the emperor, phase 2 of fight they get sperated into emperor vs sora and luke vs vader, luke becomes incapacited and just before being struck down sora unlocks the force and uses lukes saber to protect him from the emperor, then after pulling the saber to himself he dual wields it with keyblade for an epic 1v2 showdown
I hope that we get a KH game in the future that features double the amount of normal worlds as it would allow more of the worlds that people want to get into the final cut of the game, I doubt it will happen but hey one can hope.
Honestly I think this is a good end for the world watch series for KHIV. I feel like you covered everything that could realistic be a gameplay level for the series. As much as I want a Miraculous Ladybug or a Kim Possible world, I don’t think it will ever happen. Regardless, I really did enjoy this series. I loved that it felt more like a real discussion bringing up arguments and claims to why some movies could/couldn’t be in the game. Overall just great job!
“I think you can safely sit the prequels out.” Idk, the prequel renaissance is real. I think the best bet is definitely the OT, but I think the PT era is more likely than the ST. I could definitely see them doing something Clone Wars-related
The Haunted Mansion is VERY beloved by disney fans :) Ask any one! I would love to see that world included, and even in the movie they do have outdoor areas, forest, giant cemetery, that's really creepy! Could be awesome. The Mansion is also very large, and seems to change rooms.
RETURNING WORLDS SURVEY:
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FULL RESULTS TO PART 3:
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My most favored returning worlds are the older ones I'd like to see get the Unreal Engine treatment. Imagine a place like Wonderland getting such a massive expansion, they could go nuts with that one.
Amazing vid as always Pat! As much as I would LOVE to talk about Disney shows for 10 minutes straight, I think a returning worlds video should probs be the natural end to this and dedicating a whole vid to those out of the box properties would be... I don't wanna say pointless cuz again I LOVE me some Disney animated television but pointless is the only word that comes to mind. Maybe a fill-in-the-blank survey asking people what properties should still be talked about and if there's enough overlap on certain ones make a short vid on that? Or maybe like a tweet lol. No matter what you do it's sure to be fun, just don't frustrate yourself or burn yourself out talking about stuff that is probs never gonna make it in and that you likely don't care about. But just in case, the good Disney shows are Gravity Falls, The Owl House, DuckTales, Amphibia, Phineas and Ferb, and anything older than that is even more impossible so I'll stop there. :)
Admittedly, the worlds that I want will probably not happen but I have a lot of confidence and do not have much of a problem seeing a Monstropolis rehash (even if it's really soon) to include lore from Monsters At Work, a series set in the same Monsters Inc building.
Man, I was REALLY hoping you'd do Disney TV as Part 4. Doing TV Cartoons or TV stuff does fit with the name "Quadratum" aka "Square" (an alternate guess on that robot foot is Final Fantasy VI's Magitek Armour) or "Box" (like a TV?).
Hm, so, the theme for Part 4 will be Returning Worlds, huh?
Could the theme for Part 5 be Disney Shows then? Or heck, maybe even Other Disney Games, that would be something, right?
Anyway, about these Returning Worlds, the main thought process i had for the most of them, were that i would like to see Reunions being made and Promises being kept,
As well as seeing how the Older Worlds would look like in the Unreal Engine,
I would also like to see, how any of our other World-Traveling Protagonists would look like in the Worlds that required Sora and Pals to change forms in order to fit-in said World, i wouldn’t mind seeing a Mermaid Kairi😏.
Also, i would still like to know, where King Triton’s knowledge about the Keyblade and the Wielders role within the larger scope of the Worlds came from, especially after seeing what has been presented through the X Saga, i wonder where and how exactly Triton learn about all this?
Pat saying “the music in this version doesn’t slap as much” while Will Smith’s Genie was on screen, was either a tragically overlooked joke or an ingeniously subtle one.
No it's truth
@@thatguytho4590I think you missed the joke lol
@@Road_to_Dawn KEEP MY ALADDIN REMAKES NAME OUT YO MOUTH
@@Road_to_Dawn It took me a minute lol
It took reading this comment for the joke to hit me
Back when 358/2 Days was being made, I remember that year on April Fools, one of hte big KH sites announced High School Musical was gonna be in the game, an they did a few mockup screenshots using I believe a HSM DS game and putting Roxas and Xion in it. Me and all of my friends believed it, all of my friends freaked out about how bad it was gonna be, I just said "Oh it's the minigame world" and they calmed down. After that I actually forgot about the hoax until the PS3 movie version of Days came out, and remembered "Oh yeah, that was a joke once."
I know this sounds insane but I think there's an argument to be made that The Twilight Zone *already has* Kingdom Hearts representation. Twilight Thorn's Japanese name is Twilight Zone and the first episode of the series is about a man living in a simulated town while he's actually asleep in a pod. I don't know if there's any direct parallels to the 7 Wonders or the Mansion but the whole world does involve the supernatural
Oh true-- "Tales from the *Darkside*" is also a spooky anthology show so the naming convention being used for the Twilight Zone seems intentional
now I'm having a crisis realising "twilight thorn" is probably a mistranslation because in japanese thorn and zone would be basically the same word
@@RegularPat I'm eagerly awaiting KH4 having a first boss named Goosebumps.
@@nerdychocobo would they both be ソーン? That’d make sense!
@@jreyes9005 yeah I believe so, zone could technically be ゾーン but I think even then thorn could also be extracted from it
Gotta admit, you’ve sold me on a Maleficent world.
*Happy Angelina Jolie noises ^_^
Dont really care for her elsewhere, but she was good in that role :)
@@opheliastanghelleeriksen8053 well, she’s a witch in real life, so…
Same. Two Maleficents interacting would be amazing.
@@zichithefox4781 Not to mention perfect for some funny moments.
It would certainly interesting.
I could audibly, viscerally imagine SDG reacting to Sora being a "Sidekick" and Donnie + The Goof being "Heroes"; SDG stands for Shocked, Dapper, and Gentle, respectively.
Donald is DAPPER?!?!?!
My hope is that quadratum gets the persona/TWETY treatment, where the city is “normal” but has zany things happening. I think that would allow for an avengers battle of New York, Christopher Robin, and a lot of other properties that are set in metropolises to be represented without needing separate worlds. I also am a huge supporter of Star Wars being contained to only happening during gummi travel, where each encounter gets you closer and closer to boarding the death star. It just writes itself! Also HSM in quadratum would be DOPE
That would actually fit with an idea I had wherein Palpatine and Vader fill the Maleficent role, which could be necessary if MoM wouldn't be an active antagonist this go around.
Good thinking! ^_^
Yozora is there so expect some Final Fantasy level scale here and there. Espcially if th Darkside in the trailer is anything to go by.
There's no precedent for Kingdom Hearts to do this ... but with how undeniably of an odd (but exciting) direction KH4 is going in, I don't see it as impossible. A Marvel world shouldn't be limited to just adapting the MCU. It shouldn't be limited by needing to be live action, or any particular immediately identifiable art style. There has been hundreds of artistic interpretations of Marvel properties throughout comics, movies, TV shows, and video games. Kingdom Hearts should go crazy and allow Nomura to create his own weird interpretation of the Marvel universe. No need for actor likeliness, just need to have some iconic heroes in costume for the trailers and you'll be able to capture that Marvel fan market. Huge potential.
I always thought it be cool if Marvel went to Disney and Square and said , “Let’s just cut to the chase here. You probably want to use Marvel but then there’s the mess of, what film, the characters, the canon, yada yada. So Square here you go, your own universe in the greater marvel multiverse to play with.”
Square Enix did create action figures of what Marvel heroes like Iron Man, Spider-man, Captain America, Thor etc would look like if Tetsuya Nomura designed them so it is possible
@@maldon3659 pretty sure Nomura himself designed them.
As someone who’s been obsessed with Star Wars ever since I was 8, I’d like to add a few things.
Firstly, you didn’t mention it, but SW is not only one of the most famous franchises of all time, but Nomura has stated in the past that he is a massive fan of it. So it checks out an even more important box than just being successful. Let’s be honest, the reason Olympus is such a recurring world isn’t because the Disney executives are pushing it, it’s because Nomura wants it.
Secondly I’d just like to mention that even if by some chance we don’t get a Star Wars world, its presence still is and has been felt in the series for a good while now, due to Nomura’s aforementioned fondness for the franchise.
Everyone has heard the famous joke about how Xehanort and Terra are literally Palpatine and Anakin, and also Mark Hammil was chosen to voice Eraqus due to his role as Luke. Eraqus who by an astounding coincidence, tried to kill his student to stop the plans of the Big Bad full seven years before the god awful Episode VIII existed. But I’d say the first really obvious SW nod was just… Everything about Xemnas. Not only he wears all black and has yellow eyes, just like the Sith, his Ethereal Blades and nothingness attacks are extremely reminiscent of the red lightsabers and Force lightning technique that they use.
But it runs even deeper than that. Many of KH’s most important and recurring themes are very similar to Star Wars. Not just the light versus darkness stuff (if anything that’s just fantasy writing 101). For instance, unchecked ambition and the consequences it brings are at the core of the villains of both series. This also leads to the ultimate moral that true happiness and fulfillment doesn’t come from physical power, but from friendship and connection. Both Xehanort and Vader chose to pursuit power and knowledge, and their ambition brought ruin to the people they cared for as well as themselves.
Destiny is also a core notion of both SW and KH, with Xehanort, Palpatine and Vader believing in the seeming inevitability of a “written” or pre-determined destiny, only to be proven wrong by Sora and Luke, both of whom fought against their supposed “destinies” to save the people important to them.
So even if Star Wars never sees the light of day in Kingdom Hearts, I still find it interesting to think about and analyze how SW impacted KH.
(Those last three paragraphs were honestly just for me. I said I’ve been obsessed with Star Wars since I was eight, and I am also obsessed with themes, so…)
SW would be a great fit, no matter if Nomura uses the original or the prequel trilogies. Just as long as KH never touches the Disney-created content, we're golden.
Hell, I'd love to see Sora falling into one of Gryph's cons.
@@kamikaze5528 There is no sequel trilogy in Ba Sing Se.
Don't forget Biggs and Wedge are a FF tradition that got in KH2 too as random NPCs
with you on the notion that these franchises are worth comparing story-wise, even if i don't agree they're actually cohesive as side-by-side stories. will violently disagree on last jedi, though, which is basically my kingdom hearts brain's logical conclusion to the ending The Force Awakens set up. good movies. (the less said about Rise of Skywalker the better, though)
Star Wars is already in the KH4 trailer so we don't need to worry there. Only speculation is which trilogy, and sadly the most likely is the sequel trilogy, but the original trilogy would be dearly loved, and with how Nomura loves his classics, I have high hopes for Sora talking with Luke Skywalker and fighting Darth freaking Vader.
I'm only just realizing how much I missed this series
Ditto, although I think the reason we had to wait two months for this one is that it takes time to do the video editing and scripting, along with giving his thought on each of the Live-Action Disney properties.
I bet if he does another one but on his opinion on which Disney worlds would return for the next KH game, we might wait another month or two.
Speaking of which did he just forget to do part 4 in the year since then the survey hasn’t even been closed
Genuinely my favorite series of yours. As a kid I used to imagine all sorts of potential ideas for using more obscure or out-there properties for KH and this is scratching that exact itch. I would definitely love both a returning worlds and an other/TV/etc. video, I know KH has flirted with the idea before (they were gonna use Gargoyles for that one canceled mobile game)
10:58 Hear that, Noah? Pat wants something a bit meatier.
And I was the MVP you were all thinking it
I was thinking this exact same quote
Just part of the protocol innit?
"Jared Leto is in the new one so it's bound to be scarier" had me DYING
I think Hocus Pocus is tailor made for KH4 given the rumor of dealing with the concept of death and unreality. The Sanderson Sisters can be brought back and have to steal the Hearts of children in order to cement their existence again. A boss gauntlet of the Sisters would be amazing as well, but I do see our party member being Billy Butcherson rather than the kids or Binx. We could even say Dani is a New Seven Hearts as well given how integral she was to the plot, maybe the Sisters are gunning for her specifically because devouring one of those is better than a normal one. It’s a bit of plot rehashing but I think it writes itself!
I'm fully onboard for this! Much like Haunted Mansion, its a solid stand-in for Halloween Town as a spooky-themed world. You've got a visually striking environment with the town of Salem decorated for Halloween and the Sanderson's cottage and cemetery being the central landmarks.
Right? And if we really want to tie it into KH lore we can give them knowledge of Kingdom Hearts and change their goal to achieve “untold wisdom” which has an added perk of youth, rather than that being their main goal. Also, I bet 100% their actresses would be down to do the voices!
I would love a _Hocus Pocus_ world, however when it comes to Disney worlds that appear in the _Kingdom Hearts_ games they are usually chosen based on the following:
1. Which Disney films Nomura and the team want as worlds for the specific KH game.
2. The themes that the specific returning and new Disney worlds based on that Disney or Pixar film have in common to the theme of the specific KH game (e.g. Friendship, Trust, Connections, Promises, etc.) - Which is debatable.
3. The Story the Disney world can offer for Sora's development and in the game's story.
4. The gameplay value and the environment that the world can offer.
5. Level Variety.
6. Disney and/or the fans giving Requests and suggestions to which films they want to see added in the game to Nomura and the team (e.g. Big Hero 6 in KH3, Hunchback in DDD).
Not to mention Nomura also chooses worlds based on a Thematic and Aesthetic standpoint, so literally it's up to Nomura if he want to have Hocus Pocus or choose a different world and save Hocus Pocus for another KH game.
that and a new sequel was just released giving it more popularity
@@RalphSnackshi To be honest, if they're going to do that, the terrain needs way more variation because just doing 90's small town Massachusetts is boring.
Personally, I think a video on the disney animated TV shows might be worthwhile. There are a lot of fun properties to draw from, like Gargoyles, Darkwing Duck, Gummi Bears, Owl House, Gravity Falls, Star Vs. (despite its issues), Amphibia, Phineas and Ferb, etc.
I’d dig a Kim Possible world. Not sure how that would play out entirely, but I’d like Kim and Ron as party members.
I also think the TV show would also be the most likely scenario for us to get a proper Lilo & Stitch world set on Kaua'i. The movie is a bit too relationship-centric to work as a KH world imo.
I think the problem is likelihood most Disney channel shows aren't that well known in the general public so most of them as much as it hurts to say will probably never get Kingdom Hearts Worlds trust me I love Gravity Falls I love Owl House I love amphibia I die to see them get Worlds in Kingdom Hearts it just ain't happening Phineas and Ferb and duck Tales of the only two that actually had a shot an even then Slim
@@kwproductions6737 same phineas and ferb wouldn't work because of it's status quo nature and generally less action heavy focus having all the characters not being allowed to interact with each other at the same time also sucks because you would have to have sora and friends not interact with half the cast if they say teamed up with perry to fight doof then A they can't have dialogue with perry because he is a platypus and B can't interact with the family or the boys or they would blow his cover if they hang out with the boys then perry will be a mindless pet barely any action no doof norm monogram the parents etc the only one I see working is ducktales 2017 especially now with the unreality stuff where alternate versions of older characters seems to be the way to go the show is adventure based making it good for action plenty of workable party members etc
Sadly Gravity Falls is pretty unlikely since Alex Hirsch has huge sway over that franchise and he hates Kingdom Hearts.
I think the easiest, best way to implement MCU would be to make a "New York City" world where Sora Donald and Goofy simply team up with the original Avengers because the city is under attack of the Heartless, with one of the big baddies of KH4 leading the invasion for some reason. Basically Avengers 2012 but with the Heartless instead of the Loki army.
I mean, even if they didnt want to use a KH bad guy, Loki commanding an army of Heartless makes sense, so just replace the Chitauri.
@@EFlatPC Or even just have the Chitauri get the body horror treatment with the Heartless.
imagine if they did battleworld similar to kh1 and 2 olympus as a tournament where you could fight any random hero or villain potentially from any universe to tie in with the unreality thing we could have a 3vs1 with all the live action spider men you could have to fight the comic big hero six to contrast them with the ones from kh3 etc etc and if people don't know who they are maybe the announcer could explain who they are before the match or an optional sign could say it outside the arena it could be great
If Highschool Musical is referenced in Kingdom Hearts it better be massive. Not just an Atlantica-styled mini game music world. But somehow integrated into every world, the combat system, and the overarching plot.
The keyblade is replaced with a basketball, Nobodies are created when Sharpay calls them losers, Sora sings all the time about how he wants to sing, etc.
If they're going to be stupid, be VERY stupid.
I think a Maleficent world could be really interesting. Having Sora initially view her as an enemy and come to realize what the new version of her went though and her motivation might give Sora a chance to view things a little less black and white.
Not to mention it screws with his memories again given the events of Kingdom Hearts 1. Only problem is that such a situation might be too similar to the confrontation with 20's Pete in Timeless River.
Also, it might be interesting having OG Maleficent there. With both her and Sora thinking that she'll remain a villain, with Maleficent being the more outward about it, and Sora saying that he doesn't believe she has to be the villain, but subconsciously treating and reacting to her in that way.
@@ThyFloorestFloor. That would honestly be a great scenario.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 Yup, helping Sora confront his unconscious bias against villains and helping him towards a path that would allow for him to reach out to his enemies who have redeeming qualities and give them a second chance, or allow them to works towards it.
It is only now that I realize no one suggested The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010) for this topic. Not that I think it would've had a chance or be a popular choice to begin with, but wizard Nicolas Cage would be my prefered Disney incluson of him over National Treasure.
I was waiting to see if someone else pointed this out. Imagine Nicolas cage wizard meeting yensid, that alone would make the world worth it!
It would feel like a fever dream, but so does most of Kingdom Hearts and I love Nicolas Cage (and share a birthday with him) so I'm 10,000% here for it.
I have never got the whole “Star Wars clashes with how space travel works” when Deep Space exists.
I had my friends fill out the survey with me, and they were ranking their want scores pretty low, like between 1 to 5, and then we reached The Country Bears. "TEN! TEN! WE NEED A CHRISTOPHER WALKEN BOSS FIGHT!"
Did they also rank Jungle Book a 10 for the same reason?
@@sailorgallifrey1365 They hadn't watched that one, so they didn't know. Thankfully I went ahead and gave it a 10 for them.
I really like your take on a Maleficent world. Having our version meet and contrast with a more empathetic version would be really interesting. You definitely changed my firm "do not want" stance
"Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" had a sequel called "Honey, I Blew Up the Kid" (and no, it doesn't involve exploding children), this means that world can include both shrinking and growth if Ant-man isn't available.
These were EXTREMELY fun videos! Thank you so much for taking the time to make them! I don't remember if these got a survey devoted to them but if you wanted to consider some really silly worlds you could always do Disney TV shows. I don't think any of them have a very good chance but I'd love a Kim Possible or Phineas and Ferb world. But I also imagine there's probably like, a million shows to go through so I don't blame you if that's too much work lol
Love this video! I absolutely need a Sharpay boss fight with epic remix of Fabulous blaring in the background. 10/10 NEED!
I would also love to see you explore some other DCOM classics like Halloweentown, Camp Rock, Twitches, etc. While they’d be unlikely I just want to see how much the fans would like them/how they could work in KH4!
I have loved this series so much so i know i would want a returning worlds installment, but even if you don't include that i would still want to see you like a conclusion episode. throughout this series you've said how some worlds are more likely than others based on environments, so i'd like to see you build out a roster for what you think/want the kh4 worlds to be
Yeah a final chapter on "My personal picks" with a rough idea/outline on how he would like or expects things to play out in those worlds
Yeah, I'd love that. Like a core 7 worlds with a select handful of honorable mentions, just using the highest scores to go off of, whether it's a dream pick 7 vs. most likely 7 or overall highest rated.
KH4 should have its first multi-movie world with Peter Pan, Pooh Bear, Mary Poppins, 101 Dalmatians, and Great Mouse Detective. Just all running their stories all at the same exact time in London.
As much as I would love an _Enchanted_ world, due to the "fish-out-of-water" story and the Live-Action aesthetic that could tie to the Unreality/Quadratum, I don't know how the story for _Enchanted_ would fit in with _Kingdom Hearts_ and what conflict would the world have. Because the only conflicts that happened throughout the film is mostly on whether Giselle wants to live in New York or Andalasia, Prince Edward trying to bring Giselle back home and Nathaniel attempting to kill Giselle at orders of Queen Narissa. Speaking of Narissa, I think another thing that could hinder Enchanted from becoming a world is that Narissa doesn't come in to become a huge threat until the climax of the movie to deal with Giselle after Nathaniel had failed to kill her, plus New York has been utilized *A LOT* as a setting in most of the movies from Disney especially the Live-Action films (e.g. Newsies, Sorcerer's Apprentice, The Avengers, etc.).
There's also the Enchanted sequel that just got announced thatll probably add more material/complications for if they tried to put that world in KH.
@@Marliemac Not to mention like I said before, their really isn't a big major conflict that is happening in the first 2 acts of the film, cause the *ONLY* conflicts that happened throughout the film is mostly on whether Giselle wants to live in New York or Andalasia, Prince Edward trying to bring Giselle back home to Andalasia and Nathaniel attempting to kill Giselle at orders of Queen Narissa. Even Queen Narissa doesn't come in to become a huge threat until the climax of the movie when she arrived to New York to kill Giselle herself after Nathaniel failed to kill Giselle.
@@EChacon To be fair, it's not as if Kingdom Hearts hasn't dealt with more small conflict stuff before. (I wouldn't exactly call Lion King big in that sense, especially since a good chunk of the film is set BEFORE everything goes to shit.)
I think star wars is practically guaranteed most likely because it just makes sense imo. I have a feeling Disney will be pushing a lot for marvel but I personally would much prefer the incredibles over a marvel world. I like marvel movies but the incredibles is something I've been hoping for for a while in the series.
This video is super good so far! You put a lot of work in it and I think it definitely shows. Nice ^^
the trailer for kh4 had some showing of a star wars world with the foot of the at st at the possible endor. It might actually be true.
@@pippo17173 yeah thats why I'm thinking it's guaranteed. I would hope they wouldn't just tease it. I hope it won't be a dark aqua thing again and it end up just being an Easter egg/snippet rather than a world/part of the whole story.
Here are the my thoughts on what worlds from this list I would like to see in KH4:
1. Cinderella: I think it would be fun. I always wished Sora had visited the Castle of Dreams. I also think that after being plunged into Darkness, the Castle of Dreams could be “reborn” in “live action” in Quadratum.
2. Christopher Robin: Yeah, I think Sora filling in for Christopher Robin and visiting the same Pooh in a different font (Quadratum/“Unreality”) would be really fun. The book can exist outside of “Reality” or there can be multiple 100 Acre Wood books.
3. Maleficent: I see this as a delve into Maleficent’s origins. That, or a look at the hero she could’ve been. Regardless, I would love to see a battle of Maleficents.
4. MCU: Thor: Love and Thunder: While I know “Thor: Love and Thunder” is a relatively new movie and not a very well received one, the “Eternity” world in “Thor: Love and Thunder” looks a whole lot like “The Final World” in Kingdom Hearts. I would love for there to be a connection between the two and I think that Gorr could work really well with the Heartless as he has succumbed to Darkness himself.
5. Enchanted: This one’s a fun one. I can see Sora and Giselle being friends. And I can see a team up between Maleficent and Queen Narissa.
6. Avatar: I’m gonna be honest. I’ve never seen Avatar and thus have never understood the hype. But this one would be another fun one. Sci-fi mixing with Magic. We could see a blue-cat-Sora. These fantasy creatures could fight off Heartless. It would be really fun!
7. Star Wars (Original Trilogy): I think as long as we have a lightsaber fight between Sora (who is taking Luke Skywalker’s place) and Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, who is another who’s heart has succumbed to Darkness, and a whole lot of Heartless, I think that would be enough. Maybe have Ventus, Aqua, and Terra blow up the Death Star. I dunno.
8. Once Upon A Time: This one wasn’t on the list, but I’d like to include it! “Once Upon A Time” is just The Brothers Grimm’s Kingdom Hearts. I would love to see an interaction between Sora and “The Dark One”/Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold. I think he would really mess with Sora’s head and give a ton of character development to Sora. Others I would like to see interact with Sora are Emma, Henry, and Hook. Sora likes pirates so seeing an alternate version of Captain Hook who more closely resembles a domesticated Jack Sparrow would be interesting. I think Sora and Henry would have a lot in common. And I think that both Emma and Sora could benefit from meeting each other. I also think it would be cool to see Rumplestiltskin either fight, control, or study Heartless as well as giving valuable information on The Keyblade. In addition, Maleficent vs Regina Mills would be fun.
My prediction list:
“Disney” movies:
- Christopher Robin (live action whinnie)
- Alice in wonderland (live action)
- maleficent
These 3 seem like perfect KH4 games. Live action, while revisiting previous franchises within the KH universe in a different way. A lot of potential here.
The popular live action movies:
- Star Wars (it’s Star Wars, come on)
- Mcu (if any I could see thor, as Asgard would make for a great location and I think works best out of the mcu)
- avatar (number 1 box office movie in the world with numerous sequels coming out, Disney would not miss that opportunity. Also has a lot of potential for stunning locations and gameplay)
I want Alice cause I liked the remakes since they are sequels and the storyline would fit well with kh. And I liked it😂
My whole prediction and I 70% sure about it:
1- Coco
2- Encanto
3- Moana
4- Frozen 2
5- Star Wars
6- Zootopia
7- The Incredibles
8- Inside Out
9- Raya and The Last Dragon
10- Avatar
11- Cars
12- Toys Story(maybe 3)
13- Brave
14- Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
15- Bugs Life
16- The Jungle Book live action.
But I also hoping for and want:
1- Atlantis
2- Treasure Planet
3- The Great Mouse Detective
4- The Black Cauldron
5- Emperor New Groove
6- Kingsman
7- Sky High
8- The Tomorrow Land
9- Princesses and The Frog
10- Frankenweenie
11- Indiana Jones
12- Hot Shots!
13- Alien
14- Predator
15- Sky High
16- Kung Pow! Enter the Fist.
But 80% believe that they will not make it.
The funny thing about the Haunted Mansion is that every Christmas, the ride gets a Nightmare Before Christmas makeover
Congrats on getting this one done, man! It was a filled with a lot of blander properties and while there’s certainly potential for a number of these, it’s generally not as exciting as the animated stuff. But yeah! Good work! 👏
Personally, I’d love to see a ranking for TV show properties, even though KH hasn’t really dipped it’s toes in that pool yet, I think there’s so many cool possibilities here. Not just for the characters and worlds themselves, but cool art direction and in-style transformations for SDG. I’d also just generally be interested in seeing how popular this idea is amongst the general KH fanbase or if it’s mostly just fellow animators like myself who find this idea appealing.
Either way, if the returning worlds one ends up being the last poll, I totally get it. This has been a fun look at the possibilities!
I feel like everyone who remembers Gargoyles would want it in. And everyone who grew up with any of the shows really even in recent years Gravity Falls was so popular
On the note of the different imaginings of the established characters, _Once Upon a Time_ might actually be a rather interesting addition. I don't think they'd ever actually do it, but the premise of the characters all needing to escape to a different world to avoid the destruction of their own rings very KH1, with Storybrooke acting as a stand-in for Traverse Town. Years ago when I watched it, it very much felt to me just like a watered-down version of Kingdom Hearts. In terms of combat there's, uh... Rumpelstiltskin? Sure, yeah, let's go with that.
Awesome video Pat, as always!
I would love to see a part four to this! I feel like this series is really helping to fill the gap without KH4 news, and its fun because we don't know much about this game so the potential is endless. I would say make a miscellaneous part 4. Some TV Shows (Definitely Phineas and Ferb and Gravity Falls), some Fox, any other left overs.
Those worlds actually sound fantastic. Phineas and Ferb? Gravity Falls? Star vs. The Force of Evil? Wonder over Yonder? Owl House? Hell yeah
yes!!!!!! 😍
If we're talking about themes and aesthetic, Hocus Pocus fits in very nicely. If KH IV focuses on themes like death and rebirth, well, Hocus Pocus revolves around a dark version of that with the Sanderson Sisters being brought back to life.
Also, I just really want a chance to hit Winifred Sanderson with a giant key. It sounds like a good time to me.
As someone who adores the Disney classics, I would love for stuff like Mary Poppins and Bedknobs and Broomsticks to be included, but honestly, you've sold me on absolute nonsense worlds like Holes, High School Musical and National Treasure, especially the motion flow around the Liberty Bell :')
I legitimately lol'd when he said Sky High because I had a feeling that's where that was going lmao.
If you had to include 1 live action remake or adjacent film, it should be Alice in Wonderland. Since it was one of the first worlds Sora went to in KH1, it'd be a good juxtaposition for his journey in KH4. It's much darker, it could show the audience how unreality is entirely separate, Sora's alone, etc.
Thank you Pat, now I'll have a never ending nightmare of Sharpay Evans singing "Swim This Way" in the HSM2 pool
You mentioning Inspector gadgets penny as a princess Of heart is actually very fitting, as Michelle Trachtenberg’s other Disney movie is ice Princess! :-) Which I actually thought of years ago how it could work as a kingdom hearts world/Minigame
I also want to say, if Unreality goes all in on the concept of live action remakes being alternate realities of worlds Sora has already been to, a Christopher Robin world could be really interesting for some lore explaining. Sora meets the Unreality Pooh, who, of course, has no clue who Sora is, but their friendship grows as you visit Pooh's world. By the end, Pooh says something like "Boy, it feels lile I've known you my whole life," and we get this little peek into the idea that the heart of these Unreality characters are, more or less, the same as the versions we already know.
Kind of pulling a Castle Oblivion in that sense.
Yeah a part 4 is a good idea. Some worlds have more potential than others and with kh4 trailer and dark road in mind, a world like Olympus has reason to return
Jungle Book not having its animated counterpart already represented in the series could create an interesting scenario where both Jungle Book (Animated) and Jungle Book (Live Action) are worlds simultaneously, helping to directly contrast how the Light and Unreality versions of worlds differ from one another. This would be particularly helpful for anyone new to the series, who might not be familiar with the KH versions of worlds in previous games and thus have no baseline to compare the new live action iterations to.
I think one thing we haven't considered (or I haven't seen much talk about) is the possibility that KH4 won't have traditional worlds separate from each other, but moreso one hub world with a few main areas that many different IPs could crossover into, and maybe lead to smaller areas connected to IPs that are more fantastical like Toontown or Enchanted's fairytale kingdom. New York, London, the Amazon, and Quadratum/not-Tokyo alone could contain the vast amount of these live-action films, and having outer space travel could easily toss in Star Wars, John Carter, Avatar, Treasure Planet and more into one connected galaxy! The individual ″non-hub″ worlds would be smaller, yes (I'm thinking KH1 or DDD), but the idea of traveling around not-Earth and fake-Space, seeing where all these live-action events happen in relation to each other, and basically playing KH mixed with GTA or the Spider-Man/Arkham games sounds really cool!
Man your passion for National Treasure had me on the floor!
Theory: KH4 will have several "hubs" that each contain a massive crossover between multiple similar IPs.
"Space" could have Star Wars, Treasure Planet, and maybe some cameos along the lines of Lilo and Stitch or Lightyear.
"The Sea" could hit Moana, Pirates, Luca, and possibly Nemo.
"The Jungle" for Jungle Book, etc...
Its just a thought, but something that might work, assuming property rights and such are settled. Party members would probably also need to be handed out situationally instead of being able to just swap between any and all of them, and come to think of it there would be a LOT of chraracters to design, but hey, it could be a possibility, as big as games are these days.
The City Sora wakes up in could have The Avengers, Oliver and Company, Bolt, and maybe even cameos from The Wild and The Sorcerer’s Apprentice (2010), amongst others.
I just assume Avatar will be included. Disney has done everything possible to keep that series alive against all logic and public opinion.
They even removed Avatar from Disney+ just so they could put it in theaters again.
Christopher Robin world that is where the data to create the 100 Acre Wood world originally came from and explore the connections between unreality and the dark seeker saga. Maybe Maleficent could be a primordial being and be a good guy in unreality and fight against other Maleficent?
The talk of Christopher Robin got me thinking about the prospect of the plotline being important to Sora in Quadratum. Without having seen the movie but knowing from trailers that the 100 Acre Wood characters visit CR and remind him of what it's like to be a kid (Or something like that) I could see them, or at least Pooh showing up in their updated looks in Quadratum and helping Sora find his way out and back to the real world. Then afterwards he could visit the book for the usual mini game fun. Might be a good way to follow up on the weakened connection touched on in KH3 and giving the WtP characters more involvement after their less than favourable envolvement in KH3. Would be a very different use of the characters than has been typically in the series but it could be cute.
Christopher Robin could work in having it be the reverse to how sora normally visits Pooh and friends, Pooh and company begin getting worried about how sora hasn’t visited in awhile so they leave the book and with quadratum having the realistic looks that can easily explain away why they’re not cartoony.
Edit: I have no idea how they’ll leave the book that’s not my problem to figure out but yeah
Hehehe, i feel like you and I has the same thought process about some of these, especially with the Maleficent Movies, if there will ever be a concept of Alternate Realities, Alternate Worlds, that are basically different versions of Worlds already visited, i think a World based on those two Movies would be a good entry point for a concept like that and the thought of having the (from what I understand) more Redeemable Modern Maleficent meeting, interacting and maybe even facing the more Pure-Evil Classic Maleficent is very fascinating.
Anyway, yes, i would very much like to see more Parts of this, they have been very interesting and I feel like they add to the anticipation for Kingdom Hearts 4.
it wasn't on this survey and even then, I knew it never would appear in a KH game, but I always thought Chronicles of Narnia would have been a really cool fit. This was long before KH3 was even officially announced. Never gonna happen now since grassy plains and ice castle have been covered before
It actually was on the survey originally, but I removed it before posting because the legal situation seemed too complicated (I think Disney did the first two movies but not third/doesn't have the rights anymore?)
@@RegularPat Shame. They were very fun movies. But even if Disney still owned the rights, it's way way way passed its prime. And Prince Caspian, while not really a flop, was a massive MASSIVE decline in box office compared to the Lion, Witch, and Waredrobe (420 million vs 745 million). I can still at least beg Nomura for Roger Rabbit and Wreck It Ralph then rage on the deck of my patio when they don't get in
@@BanjoGeek Not to mention Prince Caspian's Box Office soured Walden Media's relationship with Disney and as a result, Disney dropped out on distributing The Voyage of the Dawn Treader because they feared that the budget would increase during the production and release of the film.
@@EChacon Lol dang. These films are just fucked on pretty much all fronts. Really just in general, not just for KH. Shame
Too bad Disney didn't buy up Adam Sandler by now. I'd love to see a Click world where Sora, Donald, and Goofy all get ill, chug tussin, gobble sugary treats, fall asleep in a mattress store, and have a shared life changing psychedelic fever dream. Plus the remote's mechanics would be a lot of fun, and Nomura could exploit it to do wacky and unexpected things with the lore.
Speaking for my own wishes, I personally voted for the Haunted Mansion to be there only because of the potential for the ride itself. Forget the movie, I was thinking of Constance Hatchaway the entire time. And that was my mentality for a lot of these properties too, because there's a lot of potential for original ideas regarding these.
The only remake I can see working is Alice In Wonderland (2010), the story is that this is the original Wonderland but ravaged by the Heartless who overan Wonderland because of The darkness in the Queen Of Hearts, which would explain how everything became gloomy and less colourful, the party members would be Alice and The Mad Hatter
Love that as a setup!
@@RegularPat the idea of the Queen Of Hearts attracting Heartless came from 358/2 days where the same thing happened and Roxas and Luxord had to fix the problem
I didn't even consider return to oz!!!! I would love that so much if it were a thing. It likely won't but I can have dreams until Nomura crushes them.
Y'know, it's weird, outta all of these, the one I wanna see most IS Mary Poppins. Hope kinda dwindles for a full blown world though, but I wanna see it return, mostly because it lives in my head rent free as one of my faves, I wanna fly from anywhere with a keyblade that can turn into an umbrella and I wanna see how Sora pronounces Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious lmfao
Hear me out, Thanos would be a pretty cool addition as a Sephiroth-y style “WTF” surprise super boss.
Ooh a Kurt Zisa type eh? I like it.
I mean…Star Wars in KH is pretty much an inevitability, between Xemnas’s definitely-not-lightsabers, Mickey’s fighting style being very reminiscent of Prequel Yoda, and even the assault on the second Death Star all being in KH2, along with the themes of light and dark, Master Eraqus being voiced by Mark Hamill, and Terra’s story being very reminiscent of Anakin, Nomura has gotta have wanted Star Wars since the moment Disney got ahold of it
Indy would be a wacky underdog pick for KH. I just can't see it happening sadly. Given past censorship and ratings changes (Xigbar losing his sniper rifle and age rating being raised due to pistols and booze in Port Royal, both in KH2), Indiana Jones being such a down to earth, gun-toting, violent series makes it unlikely
i want a starwars world in kh4 to be kinda like kh1 monstro in how you get there initially where you're travelling and get tractor beamed into the death star, while Sora tries to figure out where he is you meet up with some star wars characters, heck maybe Sora gets Terra'd and joins the empire for a little bit which leads to him down on endor until he meets the resistance and switches sides
I had the equivalent of a giggle fit when you use the Mysterious Tower bgm for the Tower of Terror. Your small gags in all of these are great
The chronicles of Narnia would be amazing world to visit as Sora and help the sons of Adam & daughters of Eve kill the white which in pt1 and when we go back catch up to prince caspian or the last battle. Another world would be Avatar for sure because those two are movies that deal with not only nostalgia but they’re worlds are KH4 #Worthy
yes, CoN would be so cool as a KH4 World
It wasn’t on your list, but I want to toss in Mary Poppins Returns. I have no doubt they’d want to do the original first, but there are a few reasons I think it would work better and has potential as a full world:
As discussed with other movies, there are themes of grieving loved ones who’ve passed on as a grown Michael Banks’s wife, the new Banks children’s’ mum, passed before the film takes place (and maybe finally we can bring up Sora’s mom?!? 🤣)
It has a lot of beautiful and diverse visual styles, from CGI to 2D, each blended w/ the live action, which I think would make for a visually stunning world. You could explore a little of 1930s London w/ the lamplighters, I think it’d be visually distinct enough from Quadratum to work. Sora climbing Big Ben might bring up some memories of flying with Peter Pan tho lol.
I visualize it as being like a more expansive Timeless River type world where you can visit the various locales as “sub-worlds” to explore, with the children’s room acting as a hub where you could interact with different objects representing each one to access them (ex: the bathtub for the undersea world w/ giant toys, the Royal Doulton Bowl to visit the music hall, a balloon takes you up to the “lovely London sky”, etc.)
The movie’s plot hinges around the Banks family scrambling to find proof of the shares in the bank left to them by Mr. Banks from the original film so they can pay their loans before 17 Cherry Tree Lane is repossessed. Spoiler alert: Michael, who wanted to be an artist but gave up on the dream because it didn’t make money to work as a bank teller at the bank he owns shares in, had unknowingly drawn a picture of his family on the back of the certificate, which through undoubtedly Mary’s invisible touch ends up being cut up by the youngest child and used to mend a kite. I could see these pieces being scattered and Sora having to jump around each of the sub-worlds to find them. As for why pretty anime boy is trusted and invited into the home of a 1930’s British family? Mary summoned him to help 🤷 that feels in character, and I love the implications lol. I’d love to see Emily Blunt’s slightly more scrutinizing Mary correct Sora’s posture and manners but saying “he’ll have to do” before sending him on his mission.
I think you can make some interesting thematic arguments for the recent disney channel animated shows like amphibia and the owl house, of course that's a lot stuff to binge
For many years I've always had an idea for how they could incorporate the MCU or just Marvel as a whole into Kingdom Hearts and that is to have it fill the roll of the 100 Acre Wood from KH1 and 2. I'm not talking about the minigame aspect of 100 Acre, I'm talking about how you access the world: the Torn Pages. To me it, makes way too much sense that if one of the two biggest names in all of comics is going to be in KH that the way access the world is by finding torn comic pages, or even full comic books, in other worlds like you had to do previously.
I see two ways of them doing the world itself this way. The first being that each page you find leads to a self contained comic book like story. Each one would be its own things where Sora teams up with that issues hero to take on that issues villain, like teaming up with Spider-Man to fight Doc Ock in a one-shot adventure. But I'm assuming that if Marvel is going to be in KH at all then it'll be through the lens of the MCU which is where idea two comes in. If they stick with the 5 page setup from prior games then 4 of the 5 pages could be reserved for abridged versions of the individual movies of the big 4 of the Avengers: Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America. Then you have the 5th page drop you right in the middle of the Battle of New York from Avengers. That might seem like a pretty large scale and probably unrealistic plan but hey weirder things have happened to this series.
To top it off I thought a neat kind of "icing on the cake" idea would be how you actually enter the world. All the comics you find are housed in a comic book store in Quadratam that's run by non other than the late great Stan Lee and when you complete the world you get a keyblade called "Excelsior" or "True Believer." But if they didn't want to or couldn't use Stan Lee's likeness I guess another Disney character could run the store though I'm not sure who. Frankly my backup character would be Deadpool for no real reason other than Deadpool could almost fit in anywhere and we all would just kind of accept it.
I did not mean to make this an entire essay nor did I realize how much thought I've actually put into this. Realistically it would probably be an MCU world accessed like all the others but I thought this would be a neat way to give some uniqueness to a franchise that may otherwise struggle with finding an identity in a game where it seems like a big cityscape is already going to be your home base for this adventure.
I never saw Jungle Cruise, but the idea of The Rock as a party member already has me sold.
I really appreciate all the work you've put into these vids Pat. I don't think anyone in their right mind would begrudge you taking a break. If it interests you, there could be a 'just-for-fun-TV-shows-we'd-like-to-see' survey without the prediction component since the likelihood is so up in the air. Up to you of course.
I’m personally banking on 1964’s For The Love Of Willadean from Walt Disney’s Wonderful World of Colour being a major world in KH4 in which Sora explores a haunted house and gets shot at by an old man for touching his prize watermelon
a high school musical parody where its destiny island high and its highschool musical but tidus and waka are there and theres a blitzball minigame
45:42. He's also had his own big game since the 7th generation, which has just released and has proven to be a home run. (Great Circle.) No clue for sales, but the critical success is off the charts so I doubt Nomura hasn't noticed.
Mr. Mosby for KH4
No MCU outing But having Dr. Strange be the Merlin or Yen Sid magical teacher for sora would be fitting
This looks like it took soooooo much work! Wonderful job!
19:45 Putting the End Of The World as the background, the nexus of massacred worlds,LOL
East High School isn't the Atlantica replacement that we deserve, but the one that we need.
And yes, Sora must help Nic Cage kidnap the President before the Master of Masters does. Only the president knows the location of the black box that contains the Infinity Gauntlet.
Leaving a second comment just to say I enjoyed this video! I know it was a gruelling project but I think the script really turned out and that classic Regular Patrick charm still comes through even when he has to slog through talking about stuff that has no chance or relevance.
KH4 World Watch Part 3 is NOT a waste of effort! 💪😤
Kingdom Hearts is literally Star Wars for Weebs, the two series fit together perfectly
31:40 LMAO!!! I'm sorry but that was great!!! That was awesome, "I got some old shit if you want some old shit!" I rate that a funny of 8/10. Probably wasn't meant to be funny but the timing was out of left field when talking about the former lmao
There's another thing to consider also, in that they're more likely going to focus on fewer worlds, but much larger and longer in scope than previous KH games. So I doubt Haunted Mansion would get in because it would be a pretty limited area space.
Even fewer than KH3? I feel like hosting less than 7 disney properties would be a pretty big miss especially marketing-wise. And i say that as someone who thought kh3 should've focused less on disney and more on original worlds.
@@zangbang9886 Maybe; We still don't really know.
Also I realize The Black Hole and Willow weren't thrown in. Not that I blame people for not remembering them but I think it's fun to imagine what a world based on them would be like.
I'm not saying I want this, but I could see there being some sort of COM/DDD treatment with the previous worlds that have since gotten a "live-action" treatment where Sora traverses the world in its reality state, and Donald, Goofy, and whoever goes through the same world in it's animated state. It could be cool, could be a drag, and could lead to some optional postgame content where if the gang reunites by the end of this story they can go through the other versions of the worlds they didn't see when playing through the main game.
Anyways, always love the content, keep up the great work!
I looked it up and this live-action movie is (sadly) not owned by Disney and thus is impossible, but while my brain thought it was, I fell in love with the idea, so I'm just going to throw it out there onto the internet. "Sharkboy and Lavagirl" would make an incredible KH world! You have two obvious allies to help you in combat, you have a varied and unique setting of Drool as it was literally thought up by a child, you have two villains and a double twist as to who is the real final boss, a blurred line between reality and fantasy, and even the Crystal Heart which is integral to the movie. Plus, either/both the Drool and reality counterparts of the Snow Princess would make great princesses of heart for this reason. I really wish this could have been a possibility, but even if it was, I highly doubt it would be a likely pick.
I wonder what characters will end up being pivotal in kh4 aside from the obvious ones. This video got me thinking about that.
I like the idea of having a mix of both prequel and OT trilogies. It's heavily reliant on the fact of "world returning" making a return though if not just spreading the story out to three games.
Basically the first visit would be episode 3. I want it to start on episode 3 is because I love the idea of Sora making a friend who falls to darkness/the dark side, and actually stays there. I really can't think of an issue where he has dealt with a friend/ally and they turned evil and stayed evil so I think that could be something interesting for him to deal with. Anakin's downfall could obviously be a parallel to Riku and what he could've been if he embraced and went full darkness. I kinda have a general outline of how the events of episode 3 would go but I'm mainly going by themes here.
Anyway, episode 3 would play out, you end with Sora distraught at the fact that one of his friends/allies fell to darkness and he couldn't save him. Debating on whether i want Sora to know Anakin goes by Darth Vader. I think there's both positives and negatives for both sides.
Next time we come back, it would be episode 5. I really don't think there's much in episode 4 to be had and just starting the OT here would be better. The only real thing would be meeting with Obi Wan again but he appears as a force ghost so there's really no point in my opinion.
Here is where the debate of Sora having the knowledge of Anakin being Vader creeps in. On one hand, sora knowing kinda brings a conflict where he might think it's better to tell Luke but Obi Wan and maybe even Yoda are like "nah", so they're telling him to lie to Luke. I don't think Sora has ever lied to his friends before so it could be interesting. But on the other hand, Sora not knowing Anakin is Vader could be interesting to see him reminisce about Anakin, much like Obi Wan did, only to have the harsh reality be is that Anakin survived and is now Vader. And he has to come to terms with the fact that not only did he presume Anakin dead (although they won't say the word), he has been around for this long and actively partook in the many atrocities he committed. At the end of episode 3, sora could've still had a bit of hope that Anakin could still come back, much like Padme. This revelation however, could flip his perspective and have him think "there's no hope for him. He's actually gone"
This would impact his view going into episode 6. If he knows Anakin was Vader the whole time, it would mainly be a sorrowful fight for Sora. A fight between a father, a son, and a friend. But if he didn't know, he could be more bitter. Resentment for having once called Anakin a friend when Anakin has lived the past 30 years as the right hand man to a dictator. It's only when he sees Vader throw Palpatine down the shaft and saving him and Luke from death by electrocution that he sees the Anakin he once knew again, although a tiny speck of it.
While I know this exact rough outline is probably not gonna happen, it's one of the few conceptual worlds I'd love to see purely for thematic purposes. Yes it'd be cool to have a 2v1 with Vader on cloud city or death star 2. Or even the duel on Mustafar, but I want to see Sora come to terms with the fact that someone he called an ally/friend is now someone he has to call an enemy and there's no bringing them back to the light. At least not for a long while but that's way after the fact Vader has committed many atrocities in the name of the Empire
But that's just my ideal take on incorporating star wars into Kingdom Hearts
I'd love to see a World Watch video talking about popular non-Disney animated movies, not really as serious discussion (because we all know we're not randomly getting a DreamWorks property world of course) but just as a fun thought experiment. I'm curious about stuff like "what'd have a higher audience want score? Shrek or Kung Fu Panda" and that kinda schtick.
37:50 you mean you guys didn’t also have honey I shrunk the kids playing 24/7 on your European broadcasting service?
Okay, I’ve always thought that an Old Yeller world would be cool. Just replace the dog with a heartless.
Also I think a mix of a prairie and an American country town setting would be interesting. I can’t recall if its been done before
Great video as always! It’s always interesting to see your takes on possible worlds for kh4 and also where the general opinion of your audience has.
I didn't realize I wanted a No Way Home world until now but boy do I
I desperately want a who framed Roger rabbit kh world now
Ive always had this idea for a star wars world, takes place during return of the jedi. I like the idea of luke and any other appearing jedi hard downplaying sora and telling him to stay back etc because he has no force abilities , world plot happens etc, fast forward to a 2v2 luke and sora vs vader and the emperor, phase 2 of fight they get sperated into emperor vs sora and luke vs vader, luke becomes incapacited and just before being struck down sora unlocks the force and uses lukes saber to protect him from the emperor, then after pulling the saber to himself he dual wields it with keyblade for an epic 1v2 showdown
I hope that we get a KH game in the future that features double the amount of normal worlds as it would allow more of the worlds that people want to get into the final cut of the game, I doubt it will happen but hey one can hope.
So happy to see Troy Bolton's face in the thumbnail.
Honestly I think this is a good end for the world watch series for KHIV. I feel like you covered everything that could realistic be a gameplay level for the series. As much as I want a Miraculous Ladybug or a Kim Possible world, I don’t think it will ever happen.
Regardless, I really did enjoy this series. I loved that it felt more like a real discussion bringing up arguments and claims to why some movies could/couldn’t be in the game. Overall just great job!
“I think you can safely sit the prequels out.”
Idk, the prequel renaissance is real. I think the best bet is definitely the OT, but I think the PT era is more likely than the ST. I could definitely see them doing something Clone Wars-related
now THIS is rumble racing
Not to mention, from what I hear, the prequels are more popular in Japan than they are in the West.
Literally cannot get enough of this series
I feel the live action Alice in wonderland with Father Time would be cool interesting and work since it works a lot with darkness
The Haunted Mansion is VERY beloved by disney fans :) Ask any one!
I would love to see that world included, and even in the movie they do have outdoor areas, forest, giant cemetery, that's really creepy! Could be awesome.
The Mansion is also very large, and seems to change rooms.