I’ve been roofing and installing seamless gutters for a long time and I warn every homeowner that either puts on new gutters or new roof where they have thought about leaf guards or anything of the sort I tell them never to buy leaf guard gutters. They are worse than just leaving them open and letting the gutter do their normal job. I tell customers that it’s cheaper to hire even a roofer to come clean your gutters than it is to pay for these to be installed I’ve even come over to places where they have got lead guard are completely covered in inches of dirt. And pine needles rendering them completely useless making the rain run right off the roof as if there are no gutters at all thank you for sharing your video. I’ve been blasting them all over social media for years because I think it’s wrong to trick our elderly and veterans into thinking they’re getting some thing that is actually useful when in fact, they’re being just lied to if I were you, I would sue take all your video evidence hire a lawyer, and take them to at least small claims or something let them know you mean business don’t let them just walk away with your money.
I was a roofer for 12 years in my younger days {I'm 68 and retired now}. I came across all different types of gutter guards and screens and I can tell you that none of them were effective. Back then I lived in Columbus Ohio and every autumn after the leaves fell the company I worked for would would get lots of calls to clean gutters and I did a lot of that work. Many of the homes I worked on had gutter guards and I would have to remove them to clean the gutters and clear downspout blockages then replace the useless guards making the job take twice as long which cost the customer extra money in labor. I live in SC now and probably twice a month I get something in the mail wanting me to get an estimate for gutter screens. I just chuckle and throw it in the trash. I am still able to clean out gutters myself. I think these companies prey on elderly folk. My advice is to call a reputable roofer and have them clean out your gutters. Don't fall for it. They absolutely do not work.
Thank you! I've been looking at getting these gutter guards but hesitated because I have a ton of trees and pine needles and didn't see how the gutter guards would work with them. I'm glad I read your post and will continue as I have been, having someone clean my gutters in the fall.
I've had one experience with 'small claims' and will never do it again. After you pay the fee to make a claim, you have to show up on the determined date, sit and wait for the judgement, and even if you 'win' your claim YOU are responsible for actually getting your money! What's the point in filing a claim, then? YEAH, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! 😱😣
Yes, by all means, contact your state attorney general's office and file complaints for as many things as they will allow you. I get so TIRED of seeing these commercials during the local, evening news... If it sounds too good to be true, it's usually LeafGuard.
@@Mach141 11,000$ 😂 who would pay 11,000$ for gutters 💀 why not call another company to compare prices? I think once u get 65 or older ur brain doesn’t work properly
If there’s one comment I hope she reads, I hope it’s yours. I hope these gutter installers are held accountable to the fullest extent possible for taking advantage of elderly
No kidding! that looks like a sub 2000 square foot single floor home, I have a 3500 sq foot home, and All new commercial gutters were only $4000. I have a second home also about 3500 sq feet that I had a "gutter monster" leaf guard system installed for also about $4000. That system has been maintenance and trouble free for 14 years. I don't even have to clean the gutters out.
Yeah I hate to blame victims, but $11,000 for gutters? With a price tag that high, I can see why things like "100% free labor" sounds appealing. That is a very deceptive tactic and I'm almost certain that's what that company did. Who needs to pay labor when the product is being upcharged 500%?
Sorry for the trauma they caused you. That price is absurd, and the product may work in climates with drizzle rain, but no way can that laminar flow design work with sticks and other debris dropped by trees. I got a deep gutter installed, put in stainless steel gutter guards and they work great. Not the micromesh ones, those clog up, but the larger hole design works great, even for pine needles.
Or window replacement company’s. Buy 2 and get 2 free. That tells you how much they are ripping you off. No company gives anything for free or they’d be out of business.
Thank you for posting the video, so sorry to hear this mess. I too was a roofer for a little while in college and we always advised folks to chose traditional gutters and have them cleaned out on a regular basis. Unfortunately, it's still the most reliable method, especially in rain-prone areas of the country.
Thank you for sharing g this! These people sat in our living room and promised the world. Started at $12,000, got dorm to $4,000 with no payment for a year, tried to say they need to keep their guys working. My husband is 100% disabled vet with cancer also… I sent them packing. Tried to tell us our log home built in 1850’s had a wet crawl space … never have we had a wet crawl space. We dodged a bullet. A complete sham!!
We payed $5800.00 in 2016 for one story house,we are elderly we felt it was too much , just got a new roof. The corners of roof was water logged and water damage.they preyed on elderly. My husband is vet,no mention of any discount…😡
I’ve been a STATE LICENSED contractor who specializes in exterior work since 1999. I can tell you I’ve never done a gutter job on a single story home with leaf guard for more than $2500. We constantly come in behind these guys and fix or entirely redo what they’ve messed up. A lot of customers who got their bid first said they knew it was a scam soon as their sales guy is taking 25% off in minutes if “you sign today”. You can’t NEED $4,000 for a job and be down to $2500 in minutes of starting the sales pitch. And most of my interactions in Florida with this company are just leaf filter related. They don’t get many full gutter jobs down here. It’s all just adding leaf filter to already installed gutter systems. But they switch things in those like the hangers for wrong sized hangers and I’ve had 3 entire houses of gutter fall after they went and “upgraded” the system. These aren’t contractors or even Constuction oriented humans. They’re sold a franchise and are getting into work they’ve never done.
Actually, “old people” are not gullible, they come from an earlier time when people were honest in their business dealings, and many such dealings were done on a handshake.
Dear Brenda, your post has done so many people good! Please consider doing another post in 3 more months, and then in another 3 months. You have the POWER with this video, so please USE it! God bless you and your husband ❤️. And keep fighting! You are doing God’s work.
I’m sorry that you are going through this. My best to your husband and thank him for his service. On a separate note, your home is absolutely beautiful!
I'm a senior as well and I don't want to climb on ladders anymore to clean my gutters so last year I bought an extension that goes on the end of my leaf blower, I paid $15 on sale from eBay and the thing works awesome!
I worked with a woman several years ago who's husband was a LeafGuard contractor/franchise owner. I asked if I should switch from my aluminum slotted covers (they were working fine). I wanted the inside scoop on LeafGuard is all. She said they don't work well in heavy rains (here in the Midwest we get a lot of heavy thunderstorms in the summer). That didn't surprise me. What did was when she told me that they create ice damns and long BIG icicles that tear the gutters off the house! After 3 years her husband sold the franchise because he could no longer install them with a clear conscience.
@genek8630 I'm going to "take it up a notch" I'm a Influencer and RUclipsR and I'm going to "educate". 😂😂😂😂 Also a Wife of a 25 year old Retired Navy Corpsman and Coast Guard Petty Officer. How Dare they do this to our Military Families out there.
@@amygradybswMilitary personnel are NOTORIOUSLY DUMB!!!! e.g. they BELIEVE that when they’re deployed their wives WON’T cheat on them! HA!!!!!! HALF their kids AREN’T even THEIRS!!!
Thank You so much. My husband and I were just talking about our gutters. We live in Florida, where it rains almost everyday, in the Summer. Our gutters over flows when ever a heavy rain occurs, which is quite often. I wanted to see about these, but NOT anymore! I'm sorry about everything you have gone through, you can't believe ANY company, anymore. I miss the old America.
Your gutters may be over flowing from to small of a gutter during these heavy rains. If you have a 5 inch K style gutter, then you could go with a 6 inch K style gutter which doesn’t sound like much, but adds a great deal of extra water volume. If you have proper run off away from the house, I would not worry about it so much anyway unless you are getting damage to landscaping as the run off occurs. Gutter guards will not help you with only heavy rain, it will actually make things worse. If your gutters are old and worn out, look at the 6 inch gutters
Get yourself a deep gutter. That is fastened securely so that the weight of the water won't bring it down. And have it sloped and drained to the right location.
Very good lesson here Brenda. Thank you. I grew up in tropical climate where houses are built with corrugated iron roofing sheets. The sheets are simply extended beyond the edge of the building so that when it rains, the water falls at least 2 feet or more beyond the structure onto grass. No gutters required unless you want to direct rain water to a holding tank.
Most houses in America also have roofs that extend well past the side of the structure, but people here don't like water running off their houses or something so they get gutters. In most instances they don't actually do anything worth the expense, but people who don't know any better want them because they think they need them. Its crazy.
I am so sorry that you went through this Brenda. Thank you for warning the rest of us about that company, it is greatly appreciated. Please file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. All the best to you and your family. 😊
My personal experiences with the Better Business Bureau is that they are actually business friendly, and really there to insulate businesses from actual accountability. They receive and then attempt to defuse customer complaints, rather than act to protect the consumer. They are the "Fox guarding the hen house".
BBB is a waste of time. The same thing happened to me. She did the only thing you can do. SHOW THE COUNTRY. I tried every agency in the book. Bottom line..BUYER BE WARE..The contract you sign in iron clad.. I am disabled also. They dont care. I had my son pull them off before they did to much damage. $2500 for a small job. Their junk has been thrown down beside my garage for a couple years. I still owe $1600 on payments.
The BBB is the largest scam that's been running for decades. All it is, is for businesses to force their customers into arbitration. In fact, you would be better off not to do business with any that boast their BBB credentials.
If you people aren’t aware the people telling you what things to buy are finally directly connected to the people selling you everything! What a perfect economy!
@@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650 I am 61 years old with some serious medical problems on a dozen meds. I am not always on top of everything much less a professional high pressure salesman pressuring me on a product that he convinced me was a solution to a bad problem I had. Are you related to Atilla the Hun? What a jack ass of a person. One day you will be old and sick. Good luck, it will come back around. Then it will be "perfect"
I'm a senor age 73 in Michigan and these guys advertise relentlessly. So sorry to hear about your troubles. It is a general principle that a great majority of contractors will rip off from senior citizens no matter what the service. One company told us it would cost $30K to put new lines to our septic system when we had a clog. Another fellow fixed it for $250.00 in twenty minutes. Go figure. SENIORS BEWARE!!
Sadly that happens to anyone that doesn't know any better. At a local restaurant I eat at the owner mentioned a toilet that did not flush properly so he called a plumber, the plumber said those 3 toilets were not commercial type and the only way to get them to work would be replace them, to the tune of about 5,000.00 I told him I would take a look at it, they have been there since 1970, and only 1 was having a problem, I snaked it and didn't find anything, but I noticed it just wasn't much water coming out when flushed, (by the way, these were the commercial toilets that have no tanks, just the big chrome handle to pull to flush) I pulled the valve out and found someone had put in the wrong valve, it wax supposed to have a 3.5 gallon valve, but only had a 1 gallon valve, so a 25.00 valve fixed the problem, 4,975.00 less than the plumber quoted. Owner bought the valve and I put it in, by the way, I got a really nice steak out of that.
Be wary of anybody who constantly advertises....it means they're constantly on the hunt for new clients. And, their fees include money to fund those endless ads.
Yes, constantly having someone ring my doorbell saying they are doing a job in the area and saw that my “ so and so” needs repair or redone. Since they are in the area and already have the materials on hand they can do the job really cheap. I just say NO and shut the door.
I have had gutters on my house for years, I called a gutter company to do a general maintenance and cleaning. They refused. I was specifically told that they would only do the service by allowing them to install these at a cost of nearly 5k. Why would I have to replace my gutters that work just fine but need occasional maintenance. I had read reviews on these and found that people that were quick to review gave great reviews, but the people that waited 6 months or more had the real honest reviews, not good at all. I am glad you took the time to post what people should know. If only you knew before you invested hard earned money
Leaf Guard gutters were already installed on a house I bought. During the first heavy rain I realized that the gutters were overflowing and full of small limbs and leaves. I clean them every year. Because of the way they are made they are not easy to clean. A contractor poked a hole in the bottom of the gutter while building a patio. I tried to get the local Leaf Guard contractor to come out and repair it. They refused, they told me the only option was to replace the entire run across the rear of my house. This gutter is under trees and has some dents in the top from limbs falling on it. They told me that voided my warranty. I give them a bad referral every chance I get.
The patio guy is responsible for fixing that. But you can fix a hole with caulk or J.B. weld or Bondo or solder or any number of ways. A plumber can solder it. I would probably use J.B. Weld and just do it myself.
@@rettif9if you know any lawyers that could do you a favor, I’d have them write leaf-guard a threatening letter over their refusal to honor the warranty. If they’re going to sell a junk product for twice the price of what even the best gutters should cost, they could at least do repairs instead of trying to squeeze you for more money
I went from paying some local mexicans to clean my gutters twice a year to spending a few hundred dollars on a gutter cover with self tapping machine screws that was just aluminum with a lot of small drilled out holes in it. Hired the same people that cleaned my gutters to install it and they did the gutter cover installation from the roof all the way around the house in less than 30 minutes. 5 years on, It's been fantastic. No longer the splitter splatter of overflowing gutters in front of my front porch and side window. Every year it pays for itself. Sure a lot of youtube videos say that eventually the gutters will fill up with roof granules as the roof degrades but I can use the money I've saved to deal with that later. Ya it will be a big expense later but so will the roof replacement. Home ownership ain't cheap.
No gutter guards are going to be completely maintenance-free. I have the kind with holes drilled in the top, and even then stuff gets inside. You have to clean them out, but they do help keep the downspouts from clogging up.
I watched their commercials and questioned whether the gutters would work. Thank you for taking the time and consideration for others to post this video.
Same here. I have often seen their TV ads. Each time I asked / told myself: "That looks like it might be a good idea,,,, but,,,,, will they actually work"? Apparently from the video by "Brenda", they do NOT work at all. I have done some work part-time & full-time on home construction/ painting/ repair / block wall-concrete walkways and basic home repairs since I was a young teenager. I retired 5 years ago, but still have some tools.
Our home is surrounded by trees, so the gutter cleaning every year was a major pain. I looked at variouos gutter guards and noticed a major problem. They all seemed to lay flat on the top of the gutter. And, of course, they were expensive. I searched around and found that I could get a box of 3 foot gutter guard panels; enough to cover 100 feet, for abouot $90. They came, and were even supplied with self-tapping screws and a magnetic drill bit to hold them for one handed drilling. The change I made, was not to install them flat on the gutter, but to match the pitch of the roof, which was an a-frame. The debris washes off, but the holes capture the rain and let it flow through the gutter. About a total of 4 hours of work and my whole house was completed. Cost? Under $100 and my time. This was last year, when I was 74.
Thank you for making this video. We had a leaf guard guy come to our house several years ago. When he gave me the quote, my mouth about hit the ground! The whole concept never seemed right to me. I couldn’t see how they would work. Thank you for verifying that I was right! And I’m so sorry for what you and your husband have been through. 😢
I too recommend avoiding LeafFilter at all cost! When I got the estimate of almost $12,000 after all the discounts for the complete system I decided against it. Instead I agreed just to have my existing gutters cleaned for a cost of $585. LeafFilter subcontracted the work and the subcontractor told me if I had gone directly to them I could have had the job done for $125. I got burned by LeafFilter.
Thank you SOOO MUCH for this information!! I have thought about contacting them about replacing my gutters but after hearing about your nightmare, I've changed my mind. Thank you again & GOD BLESS YOU🙏💓🙏
I’m 71 years old. Had a heart attack in 2022 which required a quad bypass to repair. This was in Jan of 2022. In June of that same year after getting an estimate to clean out the gutters and install Leaf Guards I decided to tackle it myself. I had been in rehab for 6 months and lifting weights with the approval of my Cardiologist. After convincing my wife I would “ take my leisure “ on the job, I got the materials together and a ladder and began to clean out all the gutters. Took 2 days to clean the gutters and 2 days to install the leaf guards. I watched a You Tube video to learn the ins and outs which made it way easier than I thought. My son wanted to help me but I insisted I would be fine. It was time consuming and me feet got sore from climbing up and down the ladder for 4 consecutive days. But, I finished the job. The estimate I received was for $2100 ( which is why I researched doing it myself ). The total out of pocket for me was 42 leaf guard sections at $4.50 a section and 4 pairs of work gloves, which I had already. The total cost was $189. I was shocked that’s all I invested. But, 2 years later, my gutters are 98% cleared and flowing freely. I brushed them off or spray them off once a year in the fall. We have quite a few trees. A side note……. After the job was complete I spent the next 2 days relaxing and recuperating. I told all this to show how much you get ripped off from some of those companies. They would have made $2021 profit from my savings! I realize most people at my age shouldn’t be doing this type of labor outside but I wanted to see how far I could get the job done. Little did I know I could complete it myself!
THOSE SCREENS CAN CAUSE ICE TO DAM UP AND WHEN IT MELTS IT WILL RUN BEHIND AND UNDER YOUR ROOF and then you have the wood sheeting rotting . My whole porch roof on my house had to be replaced and i had to put new roof shingles on my whole house , 15 thousand dollars because of those screens and i live in SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA 15 minutes from north carolina border just 4 years of those screens . At least the screens were only put on the front gutter and never istalled on the back gutter
A tip I saw in another video: Screw the handle of a push broom into the underside of the broom head. Then you brush the leaf guards off from underneath. For 1 story gutters, it lets you leave the ladder in the garage.
LeafGuard is heavily advertised on some niche-TV networks in the US. The aspect that always got me puzzled about the design of it: How can the rainwater drain into the gutters when there is a layer of leaves on top of the LeafGuard grill screen? Leaves piled on the roof and gutters would block the drainage of the rainwater to the gutters, making the water flowing to the ground as if there were no gutters in the first place.
LeafGuard, allegedly, works by using the surface tension of water. The theory is that water will follow the curve of the edge into the gutter. Meanwhile, they say, leaves, bugs, dirt, and debris keep going over the edge (not into the gutter) under its own momentum. Knowing that water is a "sticky" molecule, and seeing the design of the gutters, I could never wrap my head around how they figure debris - especially small bits of debris - would make the jump to avoid being flushed down the gutter; it doesn't make sense. But, they sure do have some slick marketing!
I always thought the same thing. I have friends that have had them installed, but they aren’t like me and don’t even inspect around the house when it rains.
I also have a 1900 sq ft ranch home. I had two lengths of gutters installed along the front and back of my home with 4 down pipes for $1500 two years ago. These gutters are open. Leaves and pine straw will collect in the trough during the spring and fall seasons. I have to occasionally get my ladder out and remove leaves. Thankfully, our home being a single level, the gutters are not that high above ground and are easy to clean. Thank you for your video. This is good information for home owners.
I bought an older home a few years ago. There were aluminum mesh guards on the gutters. I removed and discarded them. They did keep leaves out, but windblown dirt that settled on the roof, washed into them with every rain. I had to scrape out 2" of hardened mud with a putty knife. Glad It's a ranch, and not a two story! There is no magic cure, gutters have to be cleaned.
@@jamesgullo8240 I live in Michigan,,we get just about everything here,Im not saying its right for everyone,but saying mesh doesn't work is painting with a very broad brush, I have mesh and works great for me, I have maple and pine trees surrounding my house,,,so there ya go
Aloha Brenda - Thank you so much for sharing your poor experience. I'll be 76 in June and I'm a Vietnam Combat Veteran and a military retiree. I live on the Windward side of Oahu. Once in a while we get some major downpours. I don't know the pitch of your roof or the roofing material type, but that makes a difference on how large your gutters and downspouts should be. About a year after I purchased our home I noted a slight leak in our asphalt-shingled (the least expensive material initially) roof. So after considerable research online and visiting a builders expo in Honolulu, I decided to have both my 1800 sq ft Rancher and 500 sq ft 3-car detached garage re-roofed with Aluminum Shake Roofing. It has a Lifetime warranty. Of course, I had to pay more than twice what an asphalt shingle roof would cost, but if I had the asphalt shingles I would have had at least one more roof replacement and 5 years into another. The humidity and salt air plays havoc in Hawaii. Also, normally you have to pay more for materials and labor. Unfortunately, I didn't know that when you install a metal roof, you probably need a larger gutter and downspout. I had the smaller one (either 4" or 5" K-style style with 2" x 3" downspout. So, during heavy rains it would overflow. So several years ago my 20-something year-old aluminum gutters were beyond their life expectancy so I decided to replace them with new 4 1/2" x 6" gutters and 3" x 4" downspouts. That increased the volume by 40%. So far, I never had any waterfalls. One last thing. If you live where there is snow and ice, you should ask for the heavy gauge (0.032 inches) aluminum. Although we have no snow, I opted for the heavier gauge aluminum rather than the industry standard 0.027 inches (or some companies will use a lesser thickness of 0.019 or 0.025 inches). Altogether I paid less than $3,000.00 for 5 gutters and 8 downspouts. Of course, in my case, I didn't opt for any leaf filters so every so often I have to clean two gutters out because of the trees overhead. Anyway, ALWAYS do your own research. The local gutter installer wanted to know how I knew as much as I did about gutters and downspouts. I pointed to my smartphone and said, "I Googled it". He just shook his head. Too many folks apparently don't understand that smartphones can do much more than take photos/videos and look at social media posts.
I am so sorry for your issues, I can hear the pain in your voice! I have always doubted the commercials for all the reasons you have highlighted. Thanks for posting this video!!!! We need to call out all the liars and let them know we have a voice!
Thank you for posting this, a lot of people fall for this huge scam. My husband and I had a similar experience and we only wished we could have see your video before. If anyone sees this video please do yourself a favor and do not get this system listen to this lady you are better off going to detroit and getting $7,000 stolen at gun point at least it will be less painful and over quick. With this company you instead have to deal with this pain constantly
we inherited my father-in-law's house and i learned he got scammed by these folks before he passed away. it's going to cost a lot to get rid of these things. i have a spinal injury or i would rip them down myself, caution be damned.
I would never pay 11k for a gutter system. I do not care that they put a weeping tile system in. That was about a 6k job at best. I am sorry you had to go through this but I think you got scammed. I cam glad you got this fixed before it did major damage to the structure of your home! Thank you and your family for your husbands service to our country and for making this video. I was considering these gutters. I guess I will keep what I have.
I worked for KGuard Gutters, which is actually owned by one of the original owners of leaf guard, they knew how terrible their gutter system was so they branched off and started KGuard gutters. We did a condo complex that had ALL leaf guard on it, we took it ALL down because they were all clogged and ruined a few buildings. LeafGuard is by far the worst fake promise you can invest in.
I worked there when Carsons sold LeafGuard, it wasn't because of the system, it was because Beldon Roofing out of Texas offered him a huge amount of money.
Thank you for making this video. I’d been considering these gutters but decided to defer when covid happened. It’s not often you get to hear from actual people whose experiences with the product are anything less than glowing - those get conveniently buried. Also thanks to both you and your husband for the military service. Having been raised in a military family, I know that it’s not just the service member who makes the sacrifices 👏🏻🇺🇸
This is a horrendous scam that preys on a lot of people especially seniors. Let’s all try to report to RUclips to remove LeafGuard and LeafFilter ads. I’ve begun reporting LeafGuard ads and will try my best to carry on with this effort
Hi, my neighbor and I both lived under large gum trees. After few years of paying people to clean his gutters he went the gutter/leaf gutter guard way. He soon found out the the gum flowers give off small pieces that go through the guard and start to compost letting any wind blown seeds germinate. Next year his gutters were full of plants blocking any water flow. I tried gutter whiskers from Bunnings, they capture any muck in the top half of the whisker allowing water flow under the bottom half. They are easy to install, being a meter in length and easy to clean. Fire retardant too. Ask me if you want anymore info.
And Leafguard is the very FIRST gutter Company ANGIE’S List recommends. I asked for a LOCAL gutter referral and I get a Call WITHIN MINUTES from a LeafGuard Contrator 200 miles away. Then they BOTH stick to you like a Bad smell. Worse than a used car salesman
Angie's list is a scam also. I know because I've been in the seamless guttering business for 46 years. I have seen all the scams. Leaf filter is a product that doesn't work either and is a scam!
The swindlers often target old people. Partly because the U.S. fake currency loses value so fast over time that they don't always know what things are truly "worth" because it changes every year.
I used to work for a rainware manufacturer. We made gutters, downspouts and all accessories. The founder used to be a gutter installer, too. He was the hardest working/smartest person I ever worked for. He told me to use downspout strainers or hinged-type gutter guards - only if absolutely needed. He said everything else is a waste of money. When I’m older, I’ll eventually add hinged gutter guards so I don’t have to climb on the roof anymore to clean gutters every fall and spring.
Brenda, bless your heart. I’m so sorry that happened to you. That company should be ashamed of them selves. But, sadly they will just laugh and move on to screw the next family. I thank your family for your service. 🙏🏻🇺🇸
Every discount claim is typical marketing BS. This industry is full of scammers and it’s sad there isn’t more consumer protection from it. I bought a new big screen TV a few years ago and the hard sell on extended warranty was nauseating. My response to it was all of these risks and potential fatal flaws that are likely to happen soon after the manufactures warranty expires in a year, tells me I should not buy this sub standard product. It’s funny how saying thanks for the heads up and walking towards the store exit changes a sales representatives perspective on the quality of their products. The harder any industry pushes a product or service, the more likely it’s not to your benefit as good products and services sell themselves, not requiring paid chearleaders or deception. Thank you for the video and sorry about your troubles. I like to think there’s a special place in hell for people like this.
@@saintpoyes unfortunately. The physics of the design is based on surface tension of water under ideal conditions with slow constant rain. That’s why the commercials look great but in storms and overall they’re horrific.
The first time I bought a new BMW they had me in the dealership after dark and locking the doors at 9, I had been there more than 8 hours, the sticking point was they wanted me to buy the extended warranty which I did not want, warranties like that are scams, period. I finally got so tired I agree rationalizing that it is a BMW, the repairs would be outrageous if anything ever went wrong. Well it turned out that this warranty was $3,000 financed over 6 years at 5.5% and only covered from the end of the factory warranty (50 k miles) till 75 k miles. And yes there was a problem at 52,000 miles, the center console where the A/C blower motor is inside the dash sucked in a paper napkin that was in the glove compartment because BMW does not put screens over the ports that allow air to get to the motor. They had to disassemble the front interior of the car to get to it with a fairly hefty bill which I submitted to the warranty company, and they denied the claim saying that was not a mechanical repair but "cleaning." AFTER MARKET WARRANTIES ARE ALL SCAMS! ALL OF THEM, and what gets me is how Walmart wants to know if you would like the warranty on your purchases, I am like it is a $1.49 lighter, but if something goes wrong they will pay to ship it back to China and have it repaired and returned to me? And the Warranty is $12.99? I never, NEVER ever buy the useless inconvenient expensive fraudulent warranties!
@@bluebook709 Wow. What a scam. I have found part of the strategy of a new car dealer is to keep you there and just wear you down. I bought an extended warranty on a 2003 Toyota, it was only at the time $300-400, but after I bought I wondered "the whole point of buying a Toyota at a premium price was because it was reliable - so why did I need an extended warranty". Fortunatley I did have a few repairs, and I broke even on it. But never again. Extended warranties are money makers for the retailer - meaning they are losers for you.
There is consumer protection. Cedar Valley Management. I work there. But all the scammers keep calling us a scammer for busting their scams and protecting consumers to the point consumers think we are the scam. Cause you people believe whatever a random drug addict says on facebook over a 40 year international corporation.
We had leaf guard installed and discovered the hard way, that large icicles would form in the winter all along the gutter posing a hazard for anyone walking up to our front door and to our cars when we came in and out of the garage. When we asked how do we fit this situation, the leaf guard rep said we would have to install a heater wire on the roof, which would be thousands of dollars. We had the gutters removed and had some industrial size gutters installed and they can handle rain and snow melt with ease.
Brenda, thank you so much for creating this video warning people. It’s unfortunate what yall had to go through, but a blessing in disguise is that you’ll have saved others from this heartache. Hope yalls gutters don’t worry yall anymore. Cheers
My dad and I have a rule about trees and house. Remove or trim trees down so that if they fall, they can't damage your house. We kept the Eucalyptus trees lining the back of the yard trimmed enough so if they fell, no part of them would reach the house. After a neighbor had house damage from their tree that was taller than the length between it and the house, my ex stopped grumbling about paying for the trimming. It also kept a lot of leaves off the house, so our gutters were never clogged. It was always a hell of another cheaper to keep the trees trimmed than to deal with damage. And there is no need for leaf guards on the gutters.
I'm sorry to hear about the horrible ordeal you have been through! I was told that there isn't a gutter guard that works! In CT it costs us 250 a year to get ours cleaned after 10 years 2500.00 . Math made our decision for us. Stay well and thank you husband and you for your service to our great nation. God Bless
I agree. My wife called them for gutter guards. Guy came out and said 5,000. I laughed in his face. I said the same thing you did. 250 to clean that’s 20 years. The guards, which they manufacture, are sheet metal and plastic and screening. The cost to do that is not much. Huge markup on these things.
Thanks for posting this. Never will I ever use this product. Their ads keep chasing me online because I did a Google search for a roofer to fix our home 🤦♂️
I have the same product with the same problems. I have chopped down trees to reduce leaf debris. I have installed drywells to channel water away from ruining my foundation. I never believed the BS that I wouldn't have to clean gutters, but I never thought I would have to deal with problems that did not exist before I installed this product. 😢
We have had a better experience with Leaf Guard. Did a 2nd story renovation on our home , the old wooden wrap-around deck had suffered more damage due to not having a gutter system. So after replacing the deck and painting the 2nd story, we had Leaf Guard to a small gutter system on the two sides of our home that needed it. No trees around so it's just for water: 2 years in so far, no gutter issues, no clogs or pests, and it's keeping a lot of runoff away from the wrap around deck. Mission Accomplished. Thank you guys! Sucks to see someone have a bad time with them.
My mom has also had a better experience than most I hear about. After my dad died 3 years ago, we had Leafguard installed on their house because I didn’t want my mom to worry about it. There are 3 very large trees around the house and so far the Leafguard has worked well. Yes, they are way overpriced, but they have saved my mom from having to clean her gutters for 3 years now. I hate that other people are having a bad experience.
I remodeled for about 20 Years and I've always hated every leaf guard type guttering (the super cheap chicken wire ones are actually okay, but you still have to keep them clean)- there's nothing to improve with normal gutters, it's way cheaper to just pay someone to clean them out once or twice a Year- even if they worked it'd still be cheaper to hire a cleaner. Thanks for the video, hopefully you've saved some folks a headache and a lot of Money!
I can attest to the truth of what Brenda shows here. My mom had LeafGuard and they performed exactly as depicted here. She had them out several times but nothing made them work. I do not recall any doors in mom’s. Please do save yourself the money and destruction that these gutters will cause to your home.
The collapsed drain pipe 2:40 that was buried in the yard was a major problem that caused the water to back up and gush out of the little clean out door in the down spout pipe. Your gutters were probably full of water during a rain storm. Glad you had that underground drain lines replaced.
I have old underground drain pipes, they were there when I bought the house thirty years ago, I imagine they are all clogged, and have tree roots growing through them. Whenever a heavy rain is predicted I just attach an eight length of gutter to the down spouts and have it run away from the house (in a real heavy rain 3-4" in 24 I'll ad another eight feet. Fortunately my house was well sited (thats one of the reasons I bought it), and the land slopes away in the back and front. For me, I don't think its worth the expense to dig up the old drain pipes.
The gutters ran over in back as well, and we have no drain lines back there. We couldn’t even walk out our back door during rain. The front lines worked fine until LeafGuard gutters clogged them.
Clean out door is upside down because the lip must overlap at the bottom. You will see water like to stick to the surface because of the water tension. Unfortunately not all of the water will stick to the surface and will go over gutter opening. I say it is a bad design and a money pit
@@BrenniJowhere do those downspout lines discharge? Corrugsted rippled piping is inferior, and clogs up with material due to the undulations + holds water for roots to penetrate
I’m glad I saw these commercials on TV. I did my two gutters front and back 128 feet of gutters. It took me less than two hours to do, and it cost me less than $100. I bought these 3 foot long leaf guards, let Simply slide under the first row of shingles, and snaps on to the edge of the gutter for around 70 cents each, free shipping. The ones I got were made in Ohio. The biggest problem was, keeping supplied with these plastic guards, fast enough, because they literally take about five seconds to install each. my wife I installed them, and we are in our 60s. I put a video on my channel where I did a 28 foot section of my house for the video to show how simple it is… I have the video on my channel. It’s only a few minutes long, and I get right to the points, no graphics, no music.
Checking the BBB or inquiring with other customers in your area is highly overrated. It’s much better to make a decision based on one person’s experience posted on RUclips.
It’s absolutely horrible that this was done to you. If it provides you with any solace at all, know that this video just convinced me to not get LeafGuard gutters. Your video is probably helping so many families from making a terrible mistake. Thank you!
Thank you. I’ve been considering leaf guard but thanks to your video and some others you’ve saved me from a big mistake. I’m so sorry for your trouble. You might talk to a lawyer about a class action lawsuit. Thanks again.
It will save me, can’t thank you enough for posting this information. I pray the good Lord rewards you for your kind service to the greater home owner community. God bless and keep you and yours always!
I've installed two sets of gutters on two houses, buying the gutter components from a contractor wholesaler. I installed gutter guards on both sets, commercial slide-in on the first, which worked OK but not great. When it came time to do the second job, I researched and wound up using expanded aluminum material from the local metal yard instead of commercially available guards. This worked well, and cost around $200 for the whole house. In huge downpours, the gutters will overflow in a few spots as the down spouts get overwhelmed, but this is uncommon and not a big deal. Shop around, this is a local handyman-level job and shouldn't be anywhere near the prices quoted in the video.
That is correct. $2k max for full gutter installation from a reputable company on most houses. It’s the salespeople that are to blame. They prey on ignorant people. No empathy, just dollar signs in their eyes. The customer too shares partial blame at times. They expect way too much. It’ll never work perfectly. Don’t expect it to. And…. when it doesn’t, don’t blame others. You signed the contract. Pulling out a violin and telling a sob story putting no blame on yourself is just wrong. Do your own research. Educate yourself. Be armed with knowledge and it’s far less likely to be taken advantage of.
You’d be surprised how much decent gutter gets sent to the scrapyard. New roof? New siding? Might as well get new gutters. Functionally they are fine. Might be dirty and dingy and look bad, but otherwise fine and still do the job they were designed for. So, to answer the question…. literally everyone has access to this at a scrapyard.
Advice to homeowners (I'm an engineer but do home inspections on the side): Just leave the gutters open, even the cheap screen-type leaf guards have issues. If you hate cleaning the gutters, then check out professional gutter cleaning services, they are probably cheaper than you'd expect. The first time I had my gutters cleaned by a contractor, I couldn't believe how cheap it was compared to how much I dreaded that task. And, if you happen to be installing new gutters for some reason, check the price on the wider size with the wider downspout pipes. If you can't afford to install a fancy underground drainage system, then you can just stick inexpensive 10 foot long irrigation pipes on the ends of the downspouts, a bit unsightly but effective.
Thank you for posting this. I have 8 rental homes, and my primary residence is 6 stories on one side (on a steep hill, bottom levels are just holding the house up) It costs so much money to have the gutters cleaned I've given a lot of thought to this. It is expensive, but one thinks: okay, but how much do I spend having them cleaned twice a year. I hope there is a good solution out there, but after seeing this - it is clearly not leafguard! Their cheesy adverts already had me scared, but you and your top commenters should be sent to everyone thinking about hiring this clowns.
Thank you for making this video! It helps Seniors know where their money would be wasted. Great job! Praying for your cancer situation, God Bless, Hilah
I totally agree! I installed some myself, and found not only did the make the water overrun the gutters, but when it snows, it piles up and when the melt starts, the water rolls over the edges and washes out around the foundation of my house! I think they are a scam as well. The heavier the rain and the steeper the roof, the more water overshoots the gutters. Just my experience!
Anyone with an once of common sense can take one look at those LeafGuards and tell that if you get really heavy rain the rain is just going to shoot right over those.
Where did you get the LeafGuard gutters to install yourself. They are pressed into shape on site from sheet metal. I would like to know where you can buy it P
This company simmilary damaged my home. I had three independent experts check the damages and then was paid a large sum for the damages by their insurance. I was able to re-gutter and paint my home with the settlement. It took nearly three years.
Just had them out to my house for a quote today in 2024. 206 linear feet of roof to cover - original quote was 15K. They give me a spiel about getting me the lowest price, their final offer was 11.5K - $55 a foot (I refused to do any form of in person commitment or get approved for their financing options which would "lock in" my price even though I told them I would be paying in cash for this project). Soooooo many sales tactics/pitches, took 2 hours because I was trying to be nice, but I wanted to yell "JUST TELL ME THE PRICE." They were doing demo's of the gutters by running it under my kitchen sink. Honestly, I thought their product seemed good but was just too much, glad I watched this video, will continue the search
These quotes never state whether is for everything new, gutters,screens downspouts etc …or just the filter, never the less , sounds outrageously expensive !
Thanks for the video! Always getting their ads in the mail and non-stop commercials which I skip over. Sorry for your trouble. It’s definitely a high price to pay. ❣️🍀
My Leaf Guard gutters in California are clogged with wasp nests. There is no way to open them up to clean them out! Can’t recommend these gutters. Very, very expensive and essentially worthless! 😡
Thank you for being brave enough to post this video in an effort to educate others about the leafguard scam. I am so sorry that this happened to you and your husband. You are doing a great service to other people who may be considering leafguard as an option. Corporate greed is out of control.
Thanks for the head up on this. Been thinking about what type to do mine. Been told gutters were just something to keep the foundation from washing out or to keep your basement from flooding if you got one. Which I don't. One guy said the cheapest and best way for those without basement is to decorate around the house with rocks, gravel and pave stone. He said you'll never worry about rotting the soffit(overhang) and ground erosion. Also he said no ice build up. So I going his way.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I was entertaining looking into these gutters so thank you from the bottom of my heart for saving me the pain. I too am a disabled veteran and we do not have the money to simply "flush down the gutters." LeafGuard should be ashamed and I'll tell everyone I know about your story.
@@Gardens_of_Vanha_Talo_Soumi We have no drain lines in back, and the gutters spilled over the same back there. Our lines in front were fine until LeafGuard gutters clogged them.
I’m happy to hear this. My point was not revenge, but it was to save others from this nightmare. It’s ok if people want to call me “stupid.” I should not have been so quick to believe their lies. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
I agree. I have them. The debris from Oak trees gets into them and the rain water flows down the side of my cedar home. I am too old and tiny in height to clean the clogs away. I have to hire someone to do it when the gutters inevitably get clogged up. Scamming seems rampant anymore. Sadly the most vulnerable are the elderly who are from a different generation that valued honesty and integrity more than the greed for ill gotten money.
you had snake oil salesmen too, they just operated differently. as a result, newer scams are hardier to identify because you're looking for the red flags that you're used to seeing. it is not generational, it happens to everyone as they age and scams evolve. we've started to see millennials falling for the same kind of scams they would've warned their parents about, just with shiny new packaging. scammers are a scourge and they're always working to be one step ahead.
I went to the hardware store are bought window screening, cut the screening into strips, used a staplegun to staple the strips of screening to the gutters, and haven't had a problem in over ten years. Every spring, I use a shop vac, and vacuum the top of the screening.
Oh my…,I feel so bad for you. What is the matter with that company!!! I’ve never heard of gutters costing that much! I’m glad your water problem was solved. Sorry it cost you so much. Thank you so much for sharing this information. I will never call them and tell everyone I know. Take care.
I’ve been roofing and installing seamless gutters for a long time and I warn every homeowner that either puts on new gutters or new roof where they have thought about leaf guards or anything of the sort I tell them never to buy leaf guard gutters. They are worse than just leaving them open and letting the gutter do their normal job. I tell customers that it’s cheaper to hire even a roofer to come clean your gutters than it is to pay for these to be installed I’ve even come over to places where they have got lead guard are completely covered in inches of dirt. And pine needles rendering them completely useless making the rain run right off the roof as if there are no gutters at all thank you for sharing your video. I’ve been blasting them all over social media for years because I think it’s wrong to trick our elderly and veterans into thinking they’re getting some thing that is actually useful when in fact, they’re being just lied to if I were you, I would sue take all your video evidence hire a lawyer, and take them to at least small claims or something let them know you mean business don’t let them just walk away with your money.
I was a roofer for 12 years in my younger days {I'm 68 and retired now}. I came across all different types of gutter guards and screens and I can tell you that none of them were effective. Back then I lived in Columbus Ohio and every autumn after the leaves fell the company I worked for would would get lots of calls to clean gutters and I did a lot of that work. Many of the homes I worked on had gutter guards and I would have to remove them to clean the gutters and clear downspout blockages then replace the useless guards making the job take twice as long which cost the customer extra money in labor.
I live in SC now and probably twice a month I get something in the mail wanting me to get an estimate for gutter screens. I just chuckle and throw it in the trash. I am still able to clean out gutters myself. I think these companies prey on elderly folk. My advice is to call a reputable roofer and have them clean out your gutters. Don't fall for it. They absolutely do not work.
Thank you! I've been looking at getting these gutter guards but hesitated because I have a ton of trees and pine needles and didn't see how the gutter guards would work with them. I'm glad I read your post and will continue as I have been, having someone clean my gutters in the fall.
You, Steve, are an asset to your craft and a blessing to your clients and potential clients. Thank you. 😉
I've had one experience with 'small claims' and will never do it again.
After you pay the fee to make a claim, you have to show up on the determined date, sit and wait for the judgement, and even if you 'win' your claim YOU are responsible for actually getting your money! What's the point in filing a claim, then?
YEAH, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! 😱😣
The supervisor in my area was rude. Didn’t know at start that I would be charged extra to have them taken down for roofing and reinstalled.
Yes, by all means, contact your state attorney general's office and file complaints for as many things as they will allow you. I get so TIRED of seeing these commercials during the local, evening news... If it sounds too good to be true, it's usually LeafGuard.
Ugh, there is nothing to good to be true about spending $11k on gutters for a modest home.
Also helps to contact a local news outlet. Some have consumer reporters that go to bat for people and shame these companies into giving refunds.
Yes usually the Commercials are the crap ones.
@@Mach141 11,000$ 😂 who would pay 11,000$ for gutters 💀 why not call another company to compare prices? I think once u get 65 or older ur brain doesn’t work properly
If there’s one comment I hope she reads, I hope it’s yours. I hope these gutter installers are held accountable to the fullest extent possible for taking advantage of elderly
$11,000 for initial install, with all those discounts mentioned??
That flat out robbery.
It's not robbery when the moron willingly hands you the money.
No kidding! that looks like a sub 2000 square foot single floor home, I have a 3500 sq foot home, and All new commercial gutters were only $4000. I have a second home also about 3500 sq feet that I had a "gutter monster" leaf guard system installed for also about $4000. That system has been maintenance and trouble free for 14 years. I don't even have to clean the gutters out.
Yeah good gutters are a few $k. They straight up robbed the elderly here.
Yeah I hate to blame victims, but $11,000 for gutters? With a price tag that high, I can see why things like "100% free labor" sounds appealing. That is a very deceptive tactic and I'm almost certain that's what that company did. Who needs to pay labor when the product is being upcharged 500%?
Sorry for the trauma they caused you. That price is absurd, and the product may work in climates with drizzle rain, but no way can that laminar flow design work with sticks and other debris dropped by trees. I got a deep gutter installed, put in stainless steel gutter guards and they work great. Not the micromesh ones, those clog up, but the larger hole design works great, even for pine needles.
The Leaf Gurad commercials are non-stop where I live. This was an eye-opener.
Exactly!
I feel so grateful for honest testimonials like these.
This
One thing I’ve learned is always avoid companies that advertise a lot ~ they need to rip you off to recoup their insane ad budget.
People still watch TEE VEE in 2024?
@@kennixox262 I shut down my Roku device down years ago. I get the best news from YT!!!!
You convinced me! I'm not going to touch that company with a ten foot pole! Thank you for your honest review and warning.
were did you get the 10 foot pole? i need one for a fence im building.
Use the 10 foot pole to keep Biden away from children
Beware. The other companies are owned by the same people.
Gutter guards don't work
Had a friend who told me her mother had to call a neighbour to come over and help her convince the sales guys to leave, when she said no.
Free labor 😅, nobody works for free. Real talk, we are overcharging so much for the materials we’re gonna make you think we install for free!
Free labor is a red flag!
$10,750 free labor
To install $250 materials . LoL
Or window replacement company’s. Buy 2 and get 2 free. That tells you how much they are ripping you off. No company gives anything for free or they’d be out of business.
You are also paying for the ridiculous marketing budget and all the fake reviews from "satisfied customers."
Don’t forget the salesman’s white shoes, vest, and flash car!
Thank you for posting the video, so sorry to hear this mess. I too was a roofer for a little while in college and we always advised folks to chose traditional gutters and have them cleaned out on a regular basis. Unfortunately, it's still the most reliable method, especially in rain-prone areas of the country.
Thank you for sharing g this! These people sat in our living room and promised the world. Started at $12,000, got dorm to $4,000 with no payment for a year, tried to say they need to keep their guys working. My husband is 100% disabled vet with cancer also… I sent them packing. Tried to tell us our log home built in 1850’s had a wet crawl space … never have we had a wet crawl space. We dodged a bullet. A complete sham!!
I am so happy for you!
We payed $5800.00 in 2016 for one story house,we are elderly we felt it was too much , just got a new roof. The corners of roof was water logged and water damage.they preyed on elderly. My husband is vet,no mention of any discount…😡
I’ve been a STATE LICENSED contractor who specializes in exterior work since 1999. I can tell you I’ve never done a gutter job on a single story home with leaf guard for more than $2500. We constantly come in behind these guys and fix or entirely redo what they’ve messed up. A lot of customers who got their bid first said they knew it was a scam soon as their sales guy is taking 25% off in minutes if “you sign today”. You can’t NEED $4,000 for a job and be down to $2500 in minutes of starting the sales pitch. And most of my interactions in Florida with this company are just leaf filter related. They don’t get many full gutter jobs down here. It’s all just adding leaf filter to already installed gutter systems. But they switch things in those like the hangers for wrong sized hangers and I’ve had 3 entire houses of gutter fall after they went and “upgraded” the system.
These aren’t contractors or even Constuction oriented humans. They’re sold a franchise and are getting into work they’ve never done.
Dont let Robert Wagner sell you a reverse mortgage either
Or take you on a boating trip.
Reverse Marige
Bobby took his wife and his butt buddy on a boating trip that turned out poorly.
or Tom Selleck
Don't let Dr. McGillicudy sell you a bottle of Snake Oil.
So sorry, no one should have to go through so much disappointment! Especially the elderly. Thanks for letting everyone know, much appreciated!
Paying 11,000$ for gutters was ur first mistake 😂 I hate thieves and scammers but old people are too gullible, there’s nothing we can do to help em
Actually, “old people” are not gullible, they come from an earlier time when people were honest in their business dealings, and many such dealings were done on a handshake.
Dear Brenda, your post has done so many people good! Please consider doing another post in 3 more months, and then in another 3 months. You have the POWER with this video, so please USE it! God bless you and your husband ❤️. And keep fighting! You are doing God’s work.
I’m sorry that you are going through this. My best to your husband and thank him for his service. On a separate note, your home is absolutely beautiful!
I'm a senior as well and I don't want to climb on ladders anymore to clean my gutters so last year I bought an extension that goes on the end of my leaf blower, I paid $15 on sale from eBay and the thing works awesome!
I worked with a woman several years ago who's husband was a LeafGuard contractor/franchise owner. I asked if I should switch from my aluminum slotted covers (they were working fine). I wanted the inside scoop on LeafGuard is all. She said they don't work well in heavy rains (here in the Midwest we get a lot of heavy thunderstorms in the summer). That didn't surprise me. What did was when she told me that they create ice damns and long BIG icicles that tear the gutters off the house! After 3 years her husband sold the franchise because he could no longer install them with a clear conscience.
Good for your husband, some people have no conscience.
@genek8630 I agree lots of lazy, entitled, manipulative, swindlers out there that prey on naive and uneducated people.
@genek8630 I'm going to "take it up a notch" I'm a Influencer and RUclipsR and I'm going to "educate". 😂😂😂😂 Also a Wife of a 25 year old Retired Navy Corpsman and Coast Guard Petty Officer. How Dare they do this to our Military Families out there.
WHOSE husband!!! NOT who’s!!!!
@@amygradybswMilitary personnel are NOTORIOUSLY DUMB!!!! e.g. they BELIEVE that when they’re deployed their wives WON’T cheat on them! HA!!!!!! HALF their kids AREN’T even THEIRS!!!
Thank You so much. My husband and I were just talking about our gutters. We live in Florida, where it rains almost everyday, in the Summer. Our gutters over flows when ever a heavy rain occurs, which is quite often. I wanted to see about these, but NOT anymore! I'm sorry about everything you have gone through, you can't believe ANY company, anymore. I miss the old America.
Your gutters may be over flowing from to small of a gutter during these heavy rains. If you have a 5 inch K style gutter, then you could go with a 6 inch K style gutter which doesn’t sound like much, but adds a great deal of extra water volume. If you have proper run off away from the house, I would not worry about it so much anyway unless you are getting damage to landscaping as the run off occurs. Gutter guards will not help you with only heavy rain, it will actually make things worse. If your gutters are old and worn out, look at the 6 inch gutters
Get yourself a deep gutter. That is fastened securely so that the weight of the water won't bring it down. And have it sloped and drained to the right location.
Very good lesson here Brenda. Thank you. I grew up in tropical climate where houses are built with corrugated iron roofing sheets. The sheets are simply extended beyond the edge of the building so that when it rains, the water falls at least 2 feet or more beyond the structure onto grass. No gutters required unless you want to direct rain water to a holding tank.
Most houses in America also have roofs that extend well past the side of the structure, but people here don't like water running off their houses or something so they get gutters. In most instances they don't actually do anything worth the expense, but people who don't know any better want them because they think they need them.
Its crazy.
I am so sorry that you went through this Brenda. Thank you for warning the rest of us about that company, it is greatly appreciated. Please file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. All the best to you and your family. 😊
My personal experiences with the Better Business Bureau is that they are actually business friendly, and really there to insulate businesses from actual accountability. They receive and then attempt to defuse customer complaints, rather than act to protect the consumer. They are the "Fox guarding the hen house".
BBB is a waste of time. The same thing happened to me. She did the only thing you can do. SHOW THE COUNTRY. I tried every agency in the book. Bottom line..BUYER BE WARE..The contract you sign in iron clad.. I am disabled also. They dont care. I had my son pull them off before they did to much damage. $2500 for a small job. Their junk has been thrown down beside my garage for a couple years. I still owe $1600 on payments.
The BBB is the largest scam that's been running for decades. All it is, is for businesses to force their customers into arbitration.
In fact, you would be better off not to do business with any that boast their BBB credentials.
If you people aren’t aware the people telling you what things to buy are finally directly connected to the people selling you everything! What a perfect economy!
@@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650 I am 61 years old with some serious medical problems on a dozen meds. I am not always on top of everything much less a professional high pressure salesman pressuring me on a product that he convinced me was a solution to a bad problem I had. Are you related to Atilla the Hun? What a jack ass of a person. One day you will be old and sick. Good luck, it will come back around. Then it will be "perfect"
I'm a senor age 73 in Michigan and these guys advertise relentlessly. So sorry to hear about your troubles. It is a general principle that a great majority of contractors will rip off from senior citizens no matter what the service. One company told us it would cost $30K to put new lines to our septic system when we had a clog. Another fellow fixed it for $250.00 in twenty minutes. Go figure. SENIORS BEWARE!!
Sadly that happens to anyone that doesn't know any better. At a local restaurant I eat at the owner mentioned a toilet that did not flush properly so he called a plumber, the plumber said those 3 toilets were not commercial type and the only way to get them to work would be replace them, to the tune of about 5,000.00 I told him I would take a look at it, they have been there since 1970, and only 1 was having a problem, I snaked it and didn't find anything, but I noticed it just wasn't much water coming out when flushed, (by the way, these were the commercial toilets that have no tanks, just the big chrome handle to pull to flush) I pulled the valve out and found someone had put in the wrong valve, it wax supposed to have a 3.5 gallon valve, but only had a 1 gallon valve, so a 25.00 valve fixed the problem, 4,975.00 less than the plumber quoted. Owner bought the valve and I put it in, by the way, I got a really nice steak out of that.
Bravo to the honest gentleman who fixed it for $250!
Be wary of anybody who constantly advertises....it means they're constantly on the hunt for new clients. And, their fees include money to fund those endless ads.
@@msr1116I always say that, too. The more they advertise, the bigger crooks they are. Ad time is expensive.
Yes, constantly having someone ring my doorbell saying they are doing a job in the area and saw that my “ so and so” needs repair or redone. Since they are in the area and already have the materials on hand they can do the job really cheap. I just say NO and shut the door.
I have had gutters on my house for years, I called a gutter company to do a general maintenance and cleaning. They refused. I was specifically told that they would only do the service by allowing them to install these at a cost of nearly 5k. Why would I have to replace my gutters that work just fine but need occasional maintenance. I had read reviews on these and found that people that were quick to review gave great reviews, but the people that waited 6 months or more had the real honest reviews, not good at all. I am glad you took the time to post what people should know. If only you knew before you invested hard earned money
Yikes, at that price you can hire someone to clean your gutters every year for the next 50-100 years.
Leaf Guard gutters were already installed on a house I bought. During the first heavy rain I realized that the gutters were overflowing and full of small limbs and leaves. I clean them every year. Because of the way they are made they are not easy to clean. A contractor poked a hole in the bottom of the gutter while building a patio. I tried to get the local Leaf Guard contractor to come out and repair it. They refused, they told me the only option was to replace the entire run across the rear of my house. This gutter is under trees and has some dents in the top from limbs falling on it. They told me that voided my warranty. I give them a bad referral every chance I get.
The patio guy is responsible for fixing that. But you can fix a hole with caulk or J.B. weld or Bondo or solder or any number of ways. A plumber can solder it. I would probably use J.B. Weld and just do it myself.
@@Matthew_Loutner two contractors, I'm not sure which one did it. I already patched it myself.
@@rettif9if you know any lawyers that could do you a favor, I’d have them write leaf-guard a threatening letter over their refusal to honor the warranty. If they’re going to sell a junk product for twice the price of what even the best gutters should cost, they could at least do repairs instead of trying to squeeze you for more money
Very timely. I’m shopping for new gutters as we speak and this video saved me from even considering leafguard. Thank you, Brenda.
I went from paying some local mexicans to clean my gutters twice a year to spending a few hundred dollars on a gutter cover with self tapping machine screws that was just aluminum with a lot of small drilled out holes in it. Hired the same people that cleaned my gutters to install it and they did the gutter cover installation from the roof all the way around the house in less than 30 minutes. 5 years on, It's been fantastic. No longer the splitter splatter of overflowing gutters in front of my front porch and side window. Every year it pays for itself. Sure a lot of youtube videos say that eventually the gutters will fill up with roof granules as the roof degrades but I can use the money I've saved to deal with that later. Ya it will be a big expense later but so will the roof replacement. Home ownership ain't cheap.
No gutter guards are going to be completely maintenance-free. I have the kind with holes drilled in the top, and even then stuff gets inside. You have to clean them out, but they do help keep the downspouts from clogging up.
I watched their commercials and questioned whether the gutters would work. Thank you for taking the time and consideration for others to post this video.
Same here. I have often seen their TV ads. Each time I asked / told myself: "That looks like it might be a good idea,,,, but,,,,, will they actually work"? Apparently from the video by "Brenda", they do NOT work at all. I have done some work part-time & full-time on home construction/ painting/ repair / block wall-concrete walkways and basic home repairs since I was a young teenager. I retired 5 years ago, but still have some tools.
Our home is surrounded by trees, so the gutter cleaning every year was a major pain. I looked at variouos gutter guards and noticed a major problem. They all seemed to lay flat on the top of the gutter. And, of course, they were expensive. I searched around and found that I could get a box of 3 foot gutter guard panels; enough to cover 100 feet, for abouot $90. They came, and were even supplied with self-tapping screws and a magnetic drill bit to hold them for one handed drilling. The change I made, was not to install them flat on the gutter, but to match the pitch of the roof, which was an a-frame. The debris washes off, but the holes capture the rain and let it flow through the gutter. About a total of 4 hours of work and my whole house was completed. Cost? Under $100 and my time. This was last year, when I was 74.
Thank you for making this video. We had a leaf guard guy come to our house several years ago. When he gave me the quote, my mouth about hit the ground! The whole concept never seemed right to me. I couldn’t see how they would work. Thank you for verifying that I was right! And I’m so sorry for what you and your husband have been through. 😢
That’s terrible. So for your troubles. Thank you for letting other people be aware of this issue
I too recommend avoiding LeafFilter at all cost! When I got the estimate of almost $12,000 after all the discounts for the complete system I decided against it. Instead I agreed just to have my existing gutters cleaned for a cost of $585. LeafFilter subcontracted the work and the subcontractor told me if I had gone directly to them I could have had the job done for $125. I got burned by LeafFilter.
Thank you for taking the time to share your story. I am sure you saved many people from this horrible situation.
Thank you SOOO MUCH for this information!! I have thought about contacting them about replacing my gutters but after hearing about your nightmare, I've changed my mind. Thank you again & GOD BLESS YOU🙏💓🙏
thank you for posting this so others can avoid this hassle. the ads make it look so good.
I’m 71 years old. Had a heart attack in 2022 which required a quad bypass to repair. This was in Jan of 2022. In June of that same year after getting an estimate to clean out the gutters and install Leaf Guards I decided to tackle it myself. I had been in rehab for 6 months and lifting weights with the approval of my Cardiologist.
After convincing my wife I would “ take my leisure “ on the job, I got the materials together and a ladder and began to clean out all the gutters. Took 2 days to clean the gutters and 2 days to install the leaf guards. I watched a You Tube video to learn the ins and outs which made it way easier than I thought.
My son wanted to help me but I insisted I would be fine.
It was time consuming and me feet got sore from climbing up and down the ladder for 4 consecutive days.
But, I finished the job. The estimate I received was for $2100 ( which is why I researched doing it myself ).
The total out of pocket for me was 42 leaf guard sections at $4.50 a section and 4 pairs of work gloves, which I had already.
The total cost was $189. I was shocked that’s all I invested. But, 2 years later, my gutters are 98% cleared and flowing freely. I brushed them off or spray them off once a year in the fall. We have quite a few trees.
A side note……. After the job was complete I spent the next 2 days relaxing and recuperating.
I told all this to show how much you get ripped off from some of those companies.
They would have made $2021 profit from my savings!
I realize most people at my age shouldn’t be doing this type of labor outside but I wanted to see how far I could get the job done. Little did I know I could complete it myself!
Could you share what gutter guards you used?
THOSE SCREENS CAN CAUSE ICE TO DAM UP AND WHEN IT MELTS IT WILL RUN BEHIND AND UNDER YOUR ROOF and then you have the wood sheeting rotting . My whole porch roof on my house had to be replaced and i had to put new roof shingles on my whole house , 15 thousand dollars because of those screens and i live in SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA 15 minutes from north carolina border just 4 years of those screens . At least the screens were only put on the front gutter and never istalled on the back gutter
You save today and pay 6 to 10 times more in a few years from now
This 30-year-old about to hit 40 you brought a big smile to my face stay awesome
A tip I saw in another video: Screw the handle of a push broom into the underside of the broom head. Then you brush the leaf guards off from underneath. For 1 story gutters, it lets you leave the ladder in the garage.
LeafGuard is heavily advertised on some niche-TV networks in the US.
The aspect that always got me puzzled about the design of it: How can the rainwater drain into the gutters when there is a layer of leaves on top of the LeafGuard grill screen? Leaves piled on the roof and gutters would block the drainage of the rainwater to the gutters, making the water flowing to the ground as if there were no gutters in the first place.
That is not the same product shown in this video. The product in this video is a one piece gutter solution that is formed on site.
Or a down pour!
A hard rain and the water just runs right over them and over the side of the gutter...it's a silly concept.
LeafGuard, allegedly, works by using the surface tension of water. The theory is that water will follow the curve of the edge into the gutter. Meanwhile, they say, leaves, bugs, dirt, and debris keep going over the edge (not into the gutter) under its own momentum. Knowing that water is a "sticky" molecule, and seeing the design of the gutters, I could never wrap my head around how they figure debris - especially small bits of debris - would make the jump to avoid being flushed down the gutter; it doesn't make sense. But, they sure do have some slick marketing!
I always thought the same thing. I have friends that have had them installed, but they aren’t like me and don’t even inspect around the house when it rains.
I also have a 1900 sq ft ranch home. I had two lengths of gutters installed along the front and back of my home with 4 down pipes for $1500 two years ago. These gutters are open. Leaves and pine straw will collect in the trough during the spring and fall seasons. I have to occasionally get my ladder out and remove leaves. Thankfully, our home being a single level, the gutters are not that high above ground and are easy to clean.
Thank you for your video. This is good information for home owners.
It is so kind and generous of you to alert everyone and make a video no less. I'm so sorry for what you have been through.
I bought an older home a few years ago. There were aluminum mesh guards on the gutters. I removed and discarded them. They did keep leaves out, but windblown dirt that settled on the roof, washed into them with every rain. I had to scrape out 2" of hardened mud with a putty knife. Glad It's a ranch, and not a two story! There is no magic cure, gutters have to be cleaned.
Same here. Those mesh screens are more trouble and work than they're worth.
@@nonamegivenatbirth I have mesh screens and cleaned once in twenty years, I love them
@@tomstiel7576 You apparently don't have pollen and windblown dirt in your area of the country.
@@jamesgullo8240 I live in Michigan,,we get just about everything here,Im not saying its right for everyone,but saying mesh doesn't work is painting with a very broad brush, I have mesh and works great for me, I have maple and pine trees surrounding my house,,,so there ya go
@@tomstiel7576 - You have no trees *AROUND YOUR HOME.*
BS
she is absolutely spot on..theyre junk.
Thank you for you review. As a disabled vet myself I dont like being scammed. I will be buying gutters soon.
Aloha Brenda -
Thank you so much for sharing your poor experience.
I'll be 76 in June and I'm a Vietnam Combat Veteran and a military retiree. I live on the Windward side of Oahu. Once in a while we get some major downpours. I don't know the pitch of your roof or the roofing material type, but that makes a difference on how large your gutters and downspouts should be. About a year after I purchased our home I noted a slight leak in our asphalt-shingled (the least expensive material initially) roof. So after considerable research online and visiting a builders expo in Honolulu, I decided to have both my 1800 sq ft Rancher and 500 sq ft 3-car detached garage re-roofed with Aluminum Shake Roofing. It has a Lifetime warranty. Of course, I had to pay more than twice what an asphalt shingle roof would cost, but if I had the asphalt shingles I would have had at least one more roof replacement and 5 years into another. The humidity and salt air plays havoc in Hawaii. Also, normally you have to pay more for materials and labor.
Unfortunately, I didn't know that when you install a metal roof, you probably need a larger gutter and downspout. I had the smaller one (either 4" or 5" K-style style with 2" x 3" downspout. So, during heavy rains it would overflow. So several years ago my 20-something year-old aluminum gutters were beyond their life expectancy so I decided to replace them with new 4 1/2" x 6" gutters and 3" x 4" downspouts. That increased the volume by 40%. So far, I never had any waterfalls. One last thing. If you live where there is snow and ice, you should ask for the heavy gauge (0.032 inches) aluminum. Although we have no snow, I opted for the heavier gauge aluminum rather than the industry standard 0.027 inches (or some companies will use a lesser thickness of 0.019 or 0.025 inches). Altogether I paid less than $3,000.00 for 5 gutters and 8 downspouts. Of course, in my case, I didn't opt for any leaf filters so every so often I have to clean two gutters out because of the trees overhead.
Anyway, ALWAYS do your own research. The local gutter installer wanted to know how I knew as much as I did about gutters and downspouts. I pointed to my smartphone and said, "I Googled it". He just shook his head. Too many folks apparently don't understand that smartphones can do much more than take photos/videos and look at social media posts.
I am so sorry for your issues, I can hear the pain in your voice! I have always doubted the commercials for all the reasons you have highlighted. Thanks for posting this video!!!! We need to call out all the liars and let them know we have a voice!
So good to have found this video. My wife wanted me to call them and get an estimate. I showed her this and she said never mind. Thank you
Thank you for posting this, a lot of people fall for this huge scam. My husband and I had a similar experience and we only wished we could have see your video before. If anyone sees this video please do yourself a favor and do not get this system listen to this lady you are better off going to detroit and getting $7,000 stolen at gun point at least it will be less painful and over quick. With this company you instead have to deal with this pain constantly
we inherited my father-in-law's house and i learned he got scammed by these folks before he passed away. it's going to cost a lot to get rid of these things. i have a spinal injury or i would rip them down myself, caution be damned.
Ma'am, thank you for doing this video and I hope and pray your husband is on the mend. Thank him for his service to our country
I would never pay 11k for a gutter system. I do not care that they put a weeping tile system in. That was about a 6k job at best. I am sorry you had to go through this but I think you got scammed. I cam glad you got this fixed before it did major damage to the structure of your home! Thank you and your family for your husbands service to our country and for making this video. I was considering these gutters. I guess I will keep what I have.
6k?? No way, that is WAY too high.
I worked for KGuard Gutters, which is actually owned by one of the original owners of leaf guard, they knew how terrible their gutter system was so they branched off and started KGuard gutters. We did a condo complex that had ALL leaf guard on it, we took it ALL down because they were all clogged and ruined a few buildings. LeafGuard is by far the worst fake promise you can invest in.
I worked there when Carsons sold LeafGuard, it wasn't because of the system, it was because Beldon Roofing out of Texas offered him a huge amount of money.
So sorry you had to deal with this. Thank you for sharing the information.
Thank you for making this video. I’d been considering these gutters but decided to defer when covid happened. It’s not often you get to hear from actual people whose experiences with the product are anything less than glowing - those get conveniently buried. Also thanks to both you and your husband for the military service. Having been raised in a military family, I know that it’s not just the service member who makes the sacrifices 👏🏻🇺🇸
Thank you so much for sharing this information with us!! 💗 And thank you to your husband for his service to our country.
This is a horrendous scam that preys on a lot of people especially seniors. Let’s all try to report to RUclips to remove LeafGuard and LeafFilter ads. I’ve begun reporting LeafGuard ads and will try my best to carry on with this effort
What's even worst is I know one of the owner's of the company . Yikes
What's wrong with leaf filter?
@@bryceanderson4864 You mean besides it's expensive and that it doesn't work?
@@bryceanderson4864 Leaf Filter just puts a mesh over the gutter.
The filters will fill up. Just like any filter.
I’m so sorry to hear this Brenda. Thank you for sharing your experience and helping the rest of us not to make this mistake.
Hi, my neighbor and I both lived under large gum trees. After few years of paying people to clean his gutters he went the gutter/leaf gutter guard way. He soon found out the the gum flowers give off small pieces that go through the guard and start to compost letting any wind blown seeds germinate. Next year his gutters were full of plants blocking any water flow. I tried gutter whiskers from Bunnings, they capture any muck in the top half of the whisker allowing water flow under the bottom half. They are easy to install, being a meter in length and easy to clean. Fire retardant too. Ask me if you want anymore info.
And Leafguard is the very FIRST gutter Company ANGIE’S List recommends. I asked for a LOCAL gutter referral and I get a Call WITHIN MINUTES from a LeafGuard Contrator 200 miles away. Then they BOTH stick to you like a Bad smell. Worse than a used car salesman
Angie's list is a sham . do it the old school way . work of mouth and look at a few jobs before hiring anyone . that is best
Angie's list is a scam also. I know because I've been in the seamless guttering business for 46 years. I have seen all the scams. Leaf filter is a product that doesn't work either and is a scam!
Angies list is garbage. It’s where drunks and felons go to buy work after they’ve destroyed their reputation!
Angie's List is another scam.
"Angie's List" used to be good. Now that it went to "Angie" it's just there for the businesses, not the customers.
Paying $11,000 to begin with was the first mistake.
The swindlers often target old people. Partly because the U.S. fake currency loses value so fast over time that they don't always know what things are truly "worth" because it changes every year.
Yes. They got taken for a ride. The company saw seniors and cash cows all in one.
Give them a break, they're old and gullible.
P.T. Barnum lives.
lol, youtube banned my reply for describing inflation.
I used to work for a rainware manufacturer. We made gutters, downspouts and all accessories. The founder used to be a gutter installer, too. He was the hardest working/smartest person I ever worked for. He told me to use downspout strainers or hinged-type gutter guards - only if absolutely needed. He said everything else is a waste of money. When I’m older, I’ll eventually add hinged gutter guards so I don’t have to climb on the roof anymore to clean gutters every fall and spring.
Brenda, bless your heart. I’m so sorry that happened to you. That company should be ashamed of them selves. But, sadly they will just laugh and move on to screw the next family. I thank your family for your service. 🙏🏻🇺🇸
Every discount claim is typical marketing BS. This industry is full of scammers and it’s sad there isn’t more consumer protection from it. I bought a new big screen TV a few years ago and the hard sell on extended warranty was nauseating. My response to it was all of these risks and potential fatal flaws that are likely to happen soon after the manufactures warranty expires in a year, tells me I should not buy this sub standard product. It’s funny how saying thanks for the heads up and walking towards the store exit changes a sales representatives perspective on the quality of their products. The harder any industry pushes a product or service, the more likely it’s not to your benefit as good products and services sell themselves, not requiring paid chearleaders or deception. Thank you for the video and sorry about your troubles. I like to think there’s a special place in hell for people like this.
Seems like they spend more money on TV commercials then there product .😢
@@saintpoyes unfortunately. The physics of the design is based on surface tension of water under ideal conditions with slow constant rain. That’s why the commercials look great but in storms and overall they’re horrific.
The first time I bought a new BMW they had me in the dealership after dark and locking the doors at 9, I had been there more than 8 hours, the sticking point was they wanted me to buy the extended warranty which I did not want, warranties like that are scams, period. I finally got so tired I agree rationalizing that it is a BMW, the repairs would be outrageous if anything ever went wrong. Well it turned out that this warranty was $3,000 financed over 6 years at 5.5% and only covered from the end of the factory warranty (50 k miles) till 75 k miles. And yes there was a problem at 52,000 miles, the center console where the A/C blower motor is inside the dash sucked in a paper napkin that was in the glove compartment because BMW does not put screens over the ports that allow air to get to the motor. They had to disassemble the front interior of the car to get to it with a fairly hefty bill which I submitted to the warranty company, and they denied the claim saying that was not a mechanical repair but "cleaning." AFTER MARKET WARRANTIES ARE ALL SCAMS! ALL OF THEM, and what gets me is how Walmart wants to know if you would like the warranty on your purchases, I am like it is a $1.49 lighter, but if something goes wrong they will pay to ship it back to China and have it repaired and returned to me? And the Warranty is $12.99? I never, NEVER ever buy the useless inconvenient expensive fraudulent warranties!
@@bluebook709 Wow. What a scam. I have found part of the strategy of a new car dealer is to keep you there and just wear you down. I bought an extended warranty on a 2003 Toyota, it was only at the time $300-400, but after I bought I wondered "the whole point of buying a Toyota at a premium price was because it was reliable - so why did I need an extended warranty". Fortunatley I did have a few repairs, and I broke even on it. But never again. Extended warranties are money makers for the retailer - meaning they are losers for you.
There is consumer protection. Cedar Valley Management. I work there. But all the scammers keep calling us a scammer for busting their scams and protecting consumers to the point consumers think we are the scam. Cause you people believe whatever a random drug addict says on facebook over a 40 year international corporation.
We had leaf guard installed and discovered the hard way, that large icicles would form in the winter all along the gutter posing a hazard for anyone walking up to our front door and to our cars when we came in and out of the garage. When we asked how do we fit this situation, the leaf guard rep said we would have to install a heater wire on the roof, which would be thousands of dollars. We had the gutters removed and had some industrial size gutters installed and they can handle rain and snow melt with ease.
And, those heater wires jack up your electric bill quite a bit.
Brenda, thank you so much for creating this video warning people. It’s unfortunate what yall had to go through, but a blessing in disguise is that you’ll have saved others from this heartache. Hope yalls gutters don’t worry yall anymore. Cheers
My dad and I have a rule about trees and house. Remove or trim trees down so that if they fall, they can't damage your house. We kept the Eucalyptus trees lining the back of the yard trimmed enough so if they fell, no part of them would reach the house. After a neighbor had house damage from their tree that was taller than the length between it and the house, my ex stopped grumbling about paying for the trimming. It also kept a lot of leaves off the house, so our gutters were never clogged. It was always a hell of another cheaper to keep the trees trimmed than to deal with damage. And there is no need for leaf guards on the gutters.
Thank you for posting this. I’m very sorry to hear about all of the problems you had with them. They should be ashamed of themselves.
I'm sorry to hear about the horrible ordeal you have been through! I was told that there isn't a gutter guard that works! In CT it costs us 250 a year to get ours cleaned after 10 years 2500.00 . Math made our decision for us. Stay well and thank you husband and you for your service to our great nation. God Bless
I agree. My wife called them for gutter guards. Guy came out and said 5,000. I laughed in his face. I said the same thing you did. 250 to clean that’s 20 years. The guards, which they manufacture, are sheet metal and plastic and screening. The cost to do that is not much. Huge markup on these things.
They don't keep insects out, in fact, they provide a wonderful little cave for wasps to nest within...
Thanks for posting this. Never will I ever use this product. Their ads keep chasing me online because I did a Google search for a roofer to fix our home 🤦♂️
I have the same product with the same problems. I have chopped down trees to reduce leaf debris. I have installed drywells to channel water away from ruining my foundation. I never believed the BS that I wouldn't have to clean gutters, but I never thought I would have to deal with problems that did not exist before I installed this product. 😢
lets all pass this on and tell everyone and help brenda pass the word. 🌹🌺🌻🌷
We have had a better experience with Leaf Guard. Did a 2nd story renovation on our home , the old wooden wrap-around deck had suffered more damage due to not having a gutter system. So after replacing the deck and painting the 2nd story, we had Leaf Guard to a small gutter system on the two sides of our home that needed it. No trees around so it's just for water: 2 years in so far, no gutter issues, no clogs or pests, and it's keeping a lot of runoff away from the wrap around deck. Mission Accomplished. Thank you guys! Sucks to see someone have a bad time with them.
My mom has also had a better experience than most I hear about. After my dad died 3 years ago, we had Leafguard installed on their house because I didn’t want my mom to worry about it. There are 3 very large trees around the house and so far the Leafguard has worked well. Yes, they are way overpriced, but they have saved my mom from having to clean her gutters for 3 years now. I hate that other people are having a bad experience.
I remodeled for about 20 Years and I've always hated every leaf guard type guttering (the super cheap chicken wire ones are actually okay, but you still have to keep them clean)- there's nothing to improve with normal gutters, it's way cheaper to just pay someone to clean them out once or twice a Year- even if they worked it'd still be cheaper to hire a cleaner. Thanks for the video, hopefully you've saved some folks a headache and a lot of Money!
I can attest to the truth of what Brenda shows here. My mom had LeafGuard and they performed exactly as depicted here. She had them out several times but nothing made them work. I do not recall any doors in mom’s. Please do save yourself the money and destruction that these gutters will cause to your home.
The collapsed drain pipe 2:40 that was buried in the yard was a major problem that caused the water to back up and gush out of the little clean out door in the down spout pipe. Your gutters were probably full of water during a rain storm. Glad you had that underground drain lines replaced.
I have old underground drain pipes, they were there when I bought the house thirty years ago, I imagine they are all clogged, and have tree roots growing through them. Whenever a heavy rain is predicted I just attach an eight length of gutter to the down spouts and have it run away from the house (in a real heavy rain 3-4" in 24 I'll ad another eight feet. Fortunately my house was well sited (thats one of the reasons I bought it), and the land slopes away in the back and front. For me, I don't think its worth the expense to dig up the old drain pipes.
The gutters ran over in back as well, and we have no drain lines back there. We couldn’t even walk out our back door during rain. The front lines worked fine until LeafGuard gutters clogged them.
Clean out door is upside down because the lip must overlap at the bottom. You will see water like to stick to the surface because of the water tension. Unfortunately not all of the water will stick to the surface and will go over gutter opening. I say it is a bad design and a money pit
To me it looks like those lines were crushed and tore while they were getting dug up.
@@BrenniJowhere do those downspout lines discharge? Corrugsted rippled piping is inferior, and clogs up with material due to the undulations + holds water for roots to penetrate
I’m glad I saw these commercials on TV. I did my two gutters front and back 128 feet of gutters. It took me less than two hours to do, and it cost me less than $100.
I bought these 3 foot long leaf guards, let Simply slide under the first row of shingles, and snaps on to the edge of the gutter for around 70 cents each, free shipping. The ones I got were made in Ohio. The biggest problem was, keeping supplied with these plastic guards, fast enough, because they literally take about five seconds to install each. my wife I installed them, and we are in our 60s. I put a video on my channel where I did a 28 foot section of my house for the video to show how simple it is… I have the video on my channel. It’s only a few minutes long, and I get right to the points, no graphics, no music.
Thank you for warning us. I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
Thank you so much. For this valuable information. I was thinking about calling them for an estimate. No way now.
Yeah, if you have not done so, file a report with the BBB and consult with an attorney
I got them and have had no problems, and I have lots of trees
Checking the BBB or inquiring with other customers in your area is highly overrated. It’s much better to make a decision based on one person’s experience posted on RUclips.
@@remoevans7847 OMG, exactly!! LOL
It’s absolutely horrible that this was done to you. If it provides you with any solace at all, know that this video just convinced me to not get LeafGuard gutters. Your video is probably helping so many families from making a terrible mistake. Thank you!
Thank you. I’ve been considering leaf guard but thanks to your video and some others you’ve saved me from a big mistake. I’m so sorry for your trouble. You might talk to a lawyer about a class action lawsuit. Thanks again.
I had to hire an attorney. They rotted my roof in 16 months. Got my refund and repairs. Trashed a truck load of their junk.
Sure you did. pfff
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m sorry this happened to you and your husband.
Am so sorry you & your husband went through this. Thank you for letting folks know.
Thank you for taking the time to share this. I will definitely remember this and pass the info along to my friends and family.
It will save me, can’t thank you enough for posting this information. I pray the good Lord rewards you for your kind service to the greater home owner community. God bless and keep you and yours always!
I've installed two sets of gutters on two houses, buying the gutter components from a contractor wholesaler. I installed gutter guards on both sets, commercial slide-in on the first, which worked OK but not great. When it came time to do the second job, I researched and wound up using expanded aluminum material from the local metal yard instead of commercially available guards. This worked well, and cost around $200 for the whole house. In huge downpours, the gutters will overflow in a few spots as the down spouts get overwhelmed, but this is uncommon and not a big deal. Shop around, this is a local handyman-level job and shouldn't be anywhere near the prices quoted in the video.
That is correct. $2k max for full gutter installation from a reputable company on most houses. It’s the salespeople that are to blame. They prey on ignorant people. No empathy, just dollar signs in their eyes. The customer too shares partial blame at times. They expect way too much. It’ll never work perfectly. Don’t expect it to. And…. when it doesn’t, don’t blame others. You signed the contract. Pulling out a violin and telling a sob story putting no blame on yourself is just wrong. Do your own research. Educate yourself. Be armed with knowledge and it’s far less likely to be taken advantage of.
Yeah, what percentage of people out there have access to that specific aluminum from a local scrapyard?
You’d be surprised how much decent gutter gets sent to the scrapyard. New roof? New siding? Might as well get new gutters. Functionally they are fine. Might be dirty and dingy and look bad, but otherwise fine and still do the job they were designed for. So, to answer the question…. literally everyone has access to this at a scrapyard.
how wide were the gutters???
@@Bikes0420 Not a scrap yard, a metal yard that sells new steel, aluminum, and other metals. Most cities should have one or more.
Advice to homeowners (I'm an engineer but do home inspections on the side): Just leave the gutters open, even the cheap screen-type leaf guards have issues. If you hate cleaning the gutters, then check out professional gutter cleaning services, they are probably cheaper than you'd expect. The first time I had my gutters cleaned by a contractor, I couldn't believe how cheap it was compared to how much I dreaded that task. And, if you happen to be installing new gutters for some reason, check the price on the wider size with the wider downspout pipes. If you can't afford to install a fancy underground drainage system, then you can just stick inexpensive 10 foot long irrigation pipes on the ends of the downspouts, a bit unsightly but effective.
Thank you for posting this. I have 8 rental homes, and my primary residence is 6 stories on one side (on a steep hill, bottom levels are just holding the house up) It costs so much money to have the gutters cleaned I've given a lot of thought to this. It is expensive, but one thinks: okay, but how much do I spend having them cleaned twice a year. I hope there is a good solution out there, but after seeing this - it is clearly not leafguard! Their cheesy adverts already had me scared, but you and your top commenters should be sent to everyone thinking about hiring this clowns.
Thank you for making this video! It helps Seniors know where their money would be wasted. Great job! Praying for your cancer situation, God Bless, Hilah
I totally agree! I installed some myself, and found not only did the make the water overrun the gutters, but when it snows, it piles up and when the melt starts, the water rolls over the edges and washes out around the foundation of my house! I think they are a scam as well. The heavier the rain and the steeper the roof, the more water overshoots the gutters. Just my experience!
I put some screens on my gutters and found the 6 foot icicles formed. Off they went.
Anyone with an once of common sense can take one look at those LeafGuards and tell that if you get really heavy rain the rain is just going to shoot right over those.
Where did you get the LeafGuard gutters to install yourself. They are pressed into shape on site from sheet metal. I would like to know where you can buy it
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Thank you so much for your warning ! God Bless you and yours !
This company simmilary damaged my home. I had three independent experts check the damages and then was paid a large sum for the damages by their insurance. I was able to re-gutter and paint my home with the settlement. It took nearly three years.
Free labor, my butt for the amount of money they charged the labor was already automatic 🤦♂️ shame on them
Just had them out to my house for a quote today in 2024. 206 linear feet of roof to cover - original quote was 15K. They give me a spiel about getting me the lowest price, their final offer was 11.5K - $55 a foot (I refused to do any form of in person commitment or get approved for their financing options which would "lock in" my price even though I told them I would be paying in cash for this project). Soooooo many sales tactics/pitches, took 2 hours because I was trying to be nice, but I wanted to yell "JUST TELL ME THE PRICE." They were doing demo's of the gutters by running it under my kitchen sink. Honestly, I thought their product seemed good but was just too much, glad I watched this video, will continue the search
These quotes never state whether is for everything new, gutters,screens downspouts etc …or just the filter, never the less , sounds outrageously expensive !
Just get large gutters and leave the leaf guard part out.
You'll be better off.
Thanks for the video! Always getting their ads in the mail and non-stop commercials which I skip over. Sorry for your trouble. It’s definitely a high price to pay. ❣️🍀
Thank you for sharing your experience.
My Leaf Guard gutters in California are clogged with wasp nests. There is no way to open them up to clean them out! Can’t recommend these gutters. Very, very expensive and essentially worthless! 😡
Bravo.
I did home maintenance work for decades.
These things cause more problems than they solve.
They really are just another scam on seniors.
I have been eyeing these gutters. Thank you for your honesty!!
Good for you, Brenda. Thanks for the tip.
Thank you for being brave enough to post this video in an effort to educate others about the leafguard scam. I am so sorry that this happened to you and your husband. You are doing a great service to other people who may be considering leafguard as an option. Corporate greed is out of control.
Thank you for posting this 😢I’m so sorry you are dealing with such a terrible situation- will pray for you
That's awful. I'm so sorry ma'am. Thank your husband for his service.
Thanks for the head up on this. Been thinking about what type to do mine. Been told gutters were just something to keep the foundation from washing out or to keep your basement from flooding if you got one. Which I don't. One guy said the cheapest and best way for those without basement is to decorate around the house with rocks, gravel and pave stone. He said you'll never worry about rotting the soffit(overhang) and ground erosion. Also he said no ice build up. So I going his way.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I was entertaining looking into these gutters so thank you from the bottom of my heart for saving me the pain. I too am a disabled veteran and we do not have the money to simply "flush down the gutters." LeafGuard should be ashamed and I'll tell everyone I know about your story.
@@Gardens_of_Vanha_Talo_Soumi We have no drain lines in back, and the gutters spilled over the same back there. Our lines in front were fine until LeafGuard gutters clogged them.
I’m happy to hear this. My point was not revenge, but it was to save others from this nightmare. It’s ok if people want to call me “stupid.” I should not have been so quick to believe their lies. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
I agree. I have them. The debris from Oak trees gets into them and the rain water flows down the side of my cedar home. I am too old and tiny in height to clean the clogs away. I have to hire someone to do it when the gutters inevitably get clogged up. Scamming seems rampant anymore. Sadly the most vulnerable are the elderly who are from a different generation that valued honesty and integrity more than the greed for ill gotten money.
you had snake oil salesmen too, they just operated differently. as a result, newer scams are hardier to identify because you're looking for the red flags that you're used to seeing. it is not generational, it happens to everyone as they age and scams evolve. we've started to see millennials falling for the same kind of scams they would've warned their parents about, just with shiny new packaging. scammers are a scourge and they're always working to be one step ahead.
Thank you for putting this out there! I feel like I see their ads everywhere. I hope more people see this and stay away!
I went to the hardware store are bought window screening, cut the screening into strips, used a staplegun to staple the strips of screening to the gutters, and haven't had a problem in over ten years. Every spring, I use a shop vac, and vacuum the top of the screening.
Oh my…,I feel so bad for you. What is the matter with that company!!! I’ve never heard of gutters costing that much! I’m glad your water problem was solved. Sorry it cost you so much. Thank you so much for sharing this information. I will never call them and tell everyone I know. Take care.