Subaru STI DCCD (Driver Controlled Center Diff), SI Drive Explained
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2020
- You guys requested this one so lets talk about it, In this video we talk about what the DCCD (Driver Controlled Center Diff) and what the VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) Do. Not only do we talk about them but we also go out and use them to see if we can notice significant feedback from using the DCCD in the Subaru STI.
Please note I rendered to the SI drive as VDC when in actuality it is the SI Drive. The VDC has to do with the torque vectoring and the Stability and traction control which are still intertwined with the DCCD.
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I am aware, for some reason I was calling thr SI Drive VDC, don't know why. But whenever I say VDC I am referring to SI Drive.
Bro you should have driven the car in Pov and shown us :(
You also said DCCCD
Haha I’ve figured out your personality and knew that already
Bro. Thank you just thank you for everything you show all of us. You the real mvp. Keep it up brotha.
Trying to help out where I can 🙌
That b-roll in the beginning adds so much quality to the videos, keep up the grind.
Love doing the b roll 🔥appreciate the support and much more to come 🙌
I'm new to your channel but I'm loving it! I bought a 2018 STi last year and my goal is E85 and 400whp max. Loving your very common sense down to earth approach that comes from so much experience with these cars. So much value from your videos. I can't thank you enough!
Appreciate the feedback and support! Feel free to reach out if you ever have amy questions 🔥😁
Brother I'm glad I found your channel you are definitely my teacher in preparing me for getting my STI.....thank you....cheers!
Glad that the videos are helping you my man! 😁
Yes he is. I'm grateful because we are in a sweet spot waiting for the new STI. At least we will have smeedia walking us through the process. A true blessing. We have a great platform and community
Awesome detailed information brother. My VDC is a glorified boost controller now with my Protune. On an external wastegate setup and 3 port boost solenoid.
I = 13psi (Spring Pressure) , S = 15psi, S# = 18psi.
Before in stock mode, VDC was pretty much pointless, and always left it in S Mode.
Extremely helpful video!! Just bought my 2018 STI, and its the sickest car I've ever driven. Been playing around with this already, but this definitely helps me be more dialed with things.
Congrats on the car! 😁😁😁
Awesome video man, helped a ton. I got an STI back in the fall and it FINALLY snowed here. Excited to test out auto and auto +
Really enjoyed this one! Definitely gonna play with my settings a little more after watching this. Your car sounds 🔥 btw! Thanks for the video!
Haha thank you! Its definitely loud 😅 and worth playing with to learn how to use it!
My 2020 STI Limited is being delivered this week. Traded in my 2013 FRS. I've been watching a lot of your videos. Tons of helpful information. Thanks!!!
Ohhh congrats! I'm excited for you! 🔥😁
Haha, a few months ago I traded my 16 FRS for my 2020 STI Limited, nice 👍🏻
I still miss the shifter and steering but the engine is amazing.
LOVE THE CONTENT!!! I’m liking every video within seconds of it starting haha! Thank you for all the info your sharing with us!!!
Appreciate the support! Gotta get the good content out there for everyone!
I just bought a '17 sti limited and its interesting so far. My last vehicle was an '05 monte carlo so its quite the upgrade. I haven't messed around with these feature much but with your advice, I'll see what I like. Thanks for the videos and keep it up.
Definitely fun to play with and sounds like a solid upgrade! Enjoy the car! And if you have any questions feel free to reach out!
I’ve owned my 2019 sti for a year now and I’ve been driving in Intelligent mode and never moved the C.Diff... I feel like a scrub 🤦🏽♂️ thank you for showing me the way!
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Hey thanks man, just got a 21 STI and did a ton of research on it before I got it but I completely forgot about the DCCD, it also snowed 6 inches here in one night so I needed to understand what the DCCD does and how it helps me. Thanks!
Congrats on the car and DCCD comes in handy! Play with it a bit and you'll start to figure out where it needs to be 🔥
As a new STI owner, this video helped me understand DCCD better. Cheers
Glad it helped! Congrats on the car BTW!
Thank you Sensei....I've been in my 2019 for one week now. You've taught me so much!
I had a 05 wrx for 10 years. Now I'm waiting on my sti to be delivered, this video helped so much ty.
Congrats on thr new STI! 😁😁😁
Man, great video and an amazing explanation. I really understand how the systems works. Thank you so much for your time. Greetings from Costa Rica
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Intelligent mode is great when I’m wearing boots and can’t feel the pedal as much so I’m not revving it as hard. Great vid, I learned a lot!
Not a bad use for intelligent mode! I know the struggle when I was in the army I could never fully feel the pedal when I had my boots on 🤣
Spot on!
@@Smeedia what was your mos?
15W 🙏
@@Smeedia Bro I’m at Huachuca now for mos reclass to 15W😂. This is where that Hatch is located that I’m interested in.
Awesome video! Just got my first STI and was looking at these controls wondering what they do! Thanks for the info!
Anytime! 😁😁😁
Man this helped me a ton. I'm new to STi. I put this in auto minus and along with a tune...wow amazing!
Awesome Video, Gave me more of an insight into my own car! I had a fair idea but hearing how you worded it made everything alot more clearer and i now feel more confident with playing with the settings in different weather conditions. Thanks my man! Love the videos! Certainly earned my sub!
Appreciate the support my friend! And best way to learn is to play with it a bit, you'll notice the differences in how it drives 😁🔥
Hey, thanks for the info. Just got my STI a month ago and didn't really know what was what. Now I'm gonna go play.
Glad the video is helping! And it's fun to play with and really changes the driving style of the car!
Don't diff lock it unless on dirt or snow
Thanks for this! Just got my first ever Subaru (STI) about 3 weeks ago and haven't messed with the DCCD yet. Actually just tried the SI Drive earlier today for the first time but still driving through my "break-in" period so I didn't go WOT yet😅. Definitely gonna try the Auto -/+ out tomorrow for sure!
Congrats on the car and qell worth trying out, the auto - is great for some nice weather 🔥
Thank you, i just got a brand new 2020 sti and i was so confused with those modes. Feel better now! Cheers !
Congrats on the car! 😁
i have always had my 2017 STI in auto plus,going to auto minus today!Thanks Smeeda
The DCCD as well as front & rear LSD are honestly the reasons I look forward to getting a STI more than a regular WRX.
They're worth it if you use them 🙌 a lot of STI owners I know never touch them
That, plus the EJ257 engine and awesome transmission got me
@@nthgthsame best choice ever
Blessings brother🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 the way you explain everything man it’s beyond 🔥🙌🏾Thank you again!#Respect
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Doing it right bud. Been a impreza nut since 95! Still own one GC and a VA2 sTi atm.
Love your vids man, never enough subie content 😀
Have a lot more on the way 🙌🙌🙌 appreciate the support 😁😁😁
Great video, I don’t mess with mine as much as I should, just wasn’t really sure about it. Very cool man😎👍🏻👍🏻
It's worth playing with, really makes a difference just from day to day driving 😁
Talking to the camera is a skill. Well done sir 👍
Thank you! Definitely a learned skill 😅
Just bought a 2011 wrx sti and this helped me a lot thanks!!!!🤘🏽
Congratulations on the new car! 😁😁😁
2011 body style is beautiful, congrats 👏
Literally buying a 2011 sti in a few days.
Ohhhh, super exciting! 🙌 hatch only sedan?
@@Smeedia Silver Sedan. Got a pretty good deal on it, and I’ve been wanting one for years.
Glad u did this one I just got my 19 sti and wanted to mess with it but never have
Worth messing with 🙌 and glad the video helped!
I’m learning a ton from these videos man. Hands down the best quality Subaru videos I’ve seen on here. I have a couple questions in regards to my sti I just purchased. Is there any place people can reach out to you with questions?
Congrats on the car! And typically here is the best place 🙏😁
You also have aftermarket DCCD controllers that add quite a bit more than stock. MapDCCD and Spiider Plus, both are more sophisticated and can be customized as well as have better auto settings. Although this more applies to a WRX with swapped STI 6 speeds.
"I don't want to say track oriented feel, but it feels more track oriented" 😁....love it. I should make it a habit to watch more of your videos. Never really played with the DCCD but I'm gonna go try Auto '-' after watching this video.
Lemme know how you like thr auto - setting! Makes it a little more fun 🔥😁
Torque is definitely where it is at, especially in the rear end for "more adventurous" driving! I will concede that the DCCD is the only feature I wish the WRX came with even if it was only offered in auto format with no manual settings.
It's well worth it and would be interesting to see how it would interact with an fA engine
Another good video man! Was scrolling on Instagram and saw your ad ;)
Glad that it worked lol never used it before so was curious if it would actually share the posting 😅
Smeedia It’s working for me! I follow a lot of STI/JDM pages, so instagram shares your ad with people who they think would like your content!
Thank you for explaining everything so well! I been trying to decide to get wrx or sti for many years. DCCD and VDC sounds great but thats an extra gadget or equipment that ads more weight to the car and causes reliability to go down because its more stuff to break down. I wish they made the WRX with the STI transmission and the 2.5 liter and sti turbo because I really don't like the idea of adjusting all these nobs. WRX seems much simpler but it has weaker transmission and rev hang and less power than STI. Plus sti can be modified very heavily up to 600 horsepower with factory transmission. So they are very different cars on the internals.
Just build an STI swapped WRX if you haven’t already. That’s what I’m in the process of doing atm.
Just subscribed, great info! Keep those videos coming!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Appreciate the support! More 🔥 coming at ya this week 😁
@@Smeedia AWESOME!🔥🔥🔥🤩
Great topic to cover and NASIOC the Bible Of Subaru’s 🤣 thanks again about rhino ramps used this weekend for oil change on the daily! owner of 05 sti Dccd and love the use of manual vs auto
Those Rhino ramps are a LIFE SAVER glad you enjoyed the video!
Love your subi man! I've always liked them since I went in a blacked out turbo wrx when I was 9
Thank you! They're definitely fun cars 😁🔥
Lol every wrx is turbo
Yesss. Thank you for this video!
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Very well explained. Thank you.
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I found in my 06 sti most of the time I have it almost unlocked fully (usually in the second position from the bottom) and it stops the rear diff from doing the annoying clunk between gears at low speeds. If I have it fully unlocked it will do it almost all the time unless i'm accelerating hard between gears. When its wet roads i'll put it halfway locked for better front end control, but if it is snow/ice i'll keep it almost fully locked. Only time I ever lock it is when I am drifting in really deep snow, I do notice the steering get much stiffer as I increase the diff lock as well. Fuel economy is effected greatly by having it more locked as well, so that's why I mainly keep it unlocked. In auto mode I can feel my car almost always has my diffs locked cause my steering gets heavy and you can hear the front diff wine more. Love having the option to change between the settings though, manual mode is definitely the way to go!
Just takes the time to learn how to use the manual setting and the best way to do it is by playing with it. Seems like you've got yours dialed in and figured out!
Been watching your videos for a minute, yet I cant get over how bad ass your ride looks. Love the set up.
Edit: did you have to measure your garage at any point to make sure your chosen ride would fit?
Appreciate the support! apologies for the delayed response sometimes comments get buried! but no it just happened to fit lol barley but fit haha, and thank you it has quickly become my money pit!
This was a great video. I will definitely test drive the new STI and get a great feel for its new features. Stay safe brother.
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Honestly i couldn't go back. The benefits of both are like a different car and awesome to change it up. Auto + is a beast that pulls you through tough turns if you can manhandle the torque steer. True AWD feel. Wish we had split % #s for +/- and all manual ranges. I believe LOCK is locked 50/50.
It would be awesome to be able to had that additional torque split. But the DCCD is such a good tool to be able to use 🔥
Love the videos brother but you are going over the DCCD and SI-DRIVE systems. The dial for Intelligent (I), Sport (S) & Sport Sharp (# ) is the SI-Drive system.
VDC (vehicle dynamics control) is Subaru’s Electronic Stability Control. This is found in pretty much every Subaru model. It’s like traction control.
Appreciate the feedback and thank you for clearing it up, I've always just referred to it as the VDC for some reason 😅
I thought I was losing my mind, or couldn’t read.
Excellent video!
Thank you! 🙏
Awesome video 👌
Thanks for the video. Just got my 2020 STI last week (coming from a 2000 Integra GSR that I had for 20 years)... I didn't really understand the owner's manuals descriptions of the DCCD auto settings, but I definitely agree that "Auto -" clearly feels the best in clear conditions.
Congrats on the car! Ans auto - is always my go to for nice sunny days 🔥🙏
Damn bruh, the Subie sounds so good when you were getting on the highway but shit got real @12:10 "Did I blow up... did we blow up..." Great episode and super informative.
A good video. I can go play with these settings in my 2020 STI. Oh yeahhhh.
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Oh yeah baby I just got one. Imma go try this. With ⚠️
I loved the video, was hoping for more explanation of the manual mode just for a better understanding. If you have a video on that already I’m missing can you link it?
Imma get an sti soon I'm glad I watch this video bc I did not know what this was
What generation you looking at getting? 🙌
2017 or 2020
Both solid years 🔥
@@Smeedia but its gonna be a progress before i get one i let you when i do
Hey just got my '21 STI and I'm completely in love with it. I really like your use of the SI drive for different boost levels. Is that something that is reasonable to have done at a shop during tuning?
You'll have to have a shop set it up when they tune it 😁
Thanks man nice video
Thank you! 🙏
love the chanel bro i have learned so much from it thank you! quick question my diff has been going into lock and blinking it has happen a few times now is it time to do a differential fluid change?
I've read that some folks like to set the DCCD to Manual in a fully open setting (or low) to get the cars torque to feel more rear biased. Any reason you would choose Auto (-) over Manual in the fully open diff setting?
I have a 2019 wrx sti premium, i just tried this and something at the front left started knocking i thought i had a flat tyre. U parked up , tried auto plus different settings to try free it up, then back to auto n it seemed to fix itself. Any idea's what happened?
It's not about front or rear bias, it's about how much locking force is applied in the electronic LSD of the center diff. The bias is dictated by the planetary gears and therefore always fixed at 41:59. This is hardware-driven and cannot be changed by electronics, which only control the increase or decrease in the LSD effect of the center diff.
This is exactly what the dccd is doing but it seems nobody understand such simple thing.
I can’t believe I been missing this mode 🤯
Definitely fun to play with 🔥😁
Does c-diff make the car default to sport sharp. Or is this completely different and I choose this setting. Would you leave it in sport sharp or sport when your in auto minus. Thanks, and great video. Just trying to understand this system better.
Love your videos man! Totally right about Auto Minus also. Hey, what do you think, install my 4th cyl coolant mod and IAG AOS on my STi with 11k miles, or wait until warranty is over? I got extended until 100k but I kinda want to do it now for longevity of the motor. Thanks for all your hard work man, you’ve got real talent for this!
Appreciate the feedback! As for voiding your warranty I would swing back to my warranty video and weigh the options. Personally I say send it 😅
Smeedia Yeah I’ve actually watched it a few times 😂 every time I watch it I lean more towards doing it! Thanks for replying...keep up the awesome content! You’re killin’ it with the updates!
hi luv the channel but i have a dumb question if my 17 sti is 40 front 60 rear in auto DCCD do u know what numbers would be in auto + and auto -?
Do I understand correctly, that DCCD allows to set the Rear/Front power distribution in a range of 50:50 on highest manual lock up to 41:59 on lowest manual setting?
I want to use it for drifting I want to have the option of all-wheel drive but I want to be able to put more of my power to the rear end so I can drink with the car when I want to is this actually feasible with this setup? I would really love it if I could manually adjust it by literally turning a dial and it would put more percentage to rear or two front depending on dial turn but I'm okay with it being more digital plus and minus I'm just wondering can I actually use this in the manual - setting for more of a drift mode? I'm guessing I need more VDC but I'm not sure is this something you could access via computer and make adjustments to where in Fallout it could be all rear-wheel-drive but any other two settings it could 50/50 or what's the deal I would really like a setting where I put it all the way and number three and it's full rear-wheel number to 50/50 and number one either vectoring between front and rear wheel for best traction or maybe even a full front wheel drive mode setting. Is this even possible? Like make Sport Plus all rear wheel sport all-wheel and a regular drive mode that is just front wheel?
I appreciate your time on all these video's. I have wanted a WRX for over 10 years, finally purchased a 2020 STI about 2 weeks ago and i have learned so much from your video's. Question, once i start using OTS Maps or protunes, does the VDC still change the percentage of throttle response, or does it stop working all together?
Also you can have those 3 setting reset to other values?
It will still change the throttle response 🙏😁 once you get a protune down the line your tuner will re program them. And congrats on the new car 😁😁😁
@@Smeedia Thank you! So far I have only put a Cobb SF and an Accessport 3. But I have collected parts to change out the exhaust completely, J-Pipe, New turbo controller, new fuel pump, 1050x injectors, waiting on one sensor and ill have that all installed and protuned. I was thinking of working on getting forged internals next but i am really unsure of where to go after that.
Intercoolet wouldent be a bad idea 🙏🔥
@@Smeedia fmic was my thought, then get internals up to par before messing with a bigger rotated turbo
Auto+ makes the steering wheel seem heavier, I have a 2020 and I love it 😻 but definitely auto- and sport# ❤️
Thank you. I had the +/- backwards on my stock 2019 and absolutely hated the car each time i tried it. C# works well. for the last
As for handling, it’s a heavy car and it tends to understeer but i will try your suggestion of auto-
So for an old 05 sti.... can you change the dccd settings while you are driving?
Anyone else have a habit of going into sport sharp everytime tou start the car? I only drive in sport sharp lol
All the time 👏🏼
Gas mileage??
@@Haylem 14.5 its not a daily driver
@@danielbedryak9555 Oh. sorry thought u meant DD.
i don’t, i only use it when i wanna go fast, i don’t wanna blow my high mileage engine😂
Just realized I live 5 mins from you lol. I also got a 2017 sti limited completely stock
Lol theres a few local people who live near by! What color is yours? May have seen it drive by before!
I have a black sti. Have only had it for 2 weeks but I love it so far.
2017 sti i set my dccd to to the rear and tried drifting in a wet parking lot today and could only get it to brake loose when i turned to the left? It wants to grab anytime i try it to the right. I dont know why
any tips on faster launch from first to second i find mine kinda jerks a bit or slows down slightly before picking up despite playing around with clutch control
Just work on timing, not a lot of settings to try and enhance that
Thank you!!!
Hope it helps!
Do the pre 2008 sti models have an auto - or auto +? When i put mine in auto it just says auto thats it theres not plus or minus switch.
hoping to put the sti transmission and dccd into my 18 wrx.
Is it safe to adjust the plus, minus auto with the car in motion ?
With the road trip I’m taking to NC would it make it a fun drive to throw it in auto minus and sport sharp? I’ll be on the expressway all the way to NC
If its all straight road driving auto (-) won't make too much of a difference
what made that oil pressure go off you think ? your face wss funny during that part. great vid man
Lol just a dip in pressure when I got off the throttle 😅 did make my heart race fir a second though lol
So, hearing about your tuning replacing your SI Drive modes raises a question for me - on my 19 STi I just recently added a Cobb access port and the SF intake w/box. I flashed the correct OTS tune for it (waiting until I get a down pipe and a few other pieces before I pay to get it pro tuned), and the SI mode is automatically set to intelligent after the flash completes - does the tune nullify sport and sport#? If I change the mode will that mess my tune or anything? Thanks, love your videos b
It shouldent, but I do know that it will default into I but ahouldent stay that way every start up 🤔
@@Smeedia Awesome! Thanks for the info!
Just got a '20 STI a few months ago.
I figure for most driving, leaving DCCD in manual and with full "minus" puts it as open as possible (lowest chance of binding) and since it's not auto, it won't be constantly adjusting things so they aren't wearing out as fast.
Make sense?
Also, in traffic, I find Sport+ best because it's easiest to avoid stalling if the engine responds immediately ☺️
Does the SI Drive setting matter when in cruise control, given that the throttle is fully automated then? 🤔
When it cruise control it won't really matter the SI drive just adjustments the sensitivity if the gas pedal 🔥
Hi mate love your videos, I'm really considering buying a new STI, can you damage your diff using auto + or - if you use them in the wrong conditions or is it completely safe?
You really have to dig into it and beat on the car to do any real damage in auto plus or minus. Pretty safe settings to use. Also appreciate the feedback! 😁
For what I understood Auto the car will detect your activity and do it for you. Auto - better handling and more fun in dry conditions. Auto + when it snows or rains for better control and traction. I’m pretty sure they’re all safe that’s what the car was designed for. Just don’t fool around with the Manual if you’re not sure what it does. Just stick to Auto -+ and you’ll be good.
When playing with all these modes is it better to leave traction control on or off ?
My 2018 si- drive shift knob popped out, how can I fix it?
Hey guys I just got this car yesterday and I didn’t kno how to drive 6 speed ..but now I’m getting good..but what mode should I drive in? I never switched it because I was scared lol
What are the rpm shift points using sport and sport sharp for a stock sti? Do they change from sport to sport sharp also? I shift at 4K rpms in sport currently.
No need to change it up, stick with 4K 🙏
Question what kind of oil do you use ? I heard the factory oil 5-30w full synthetic oil over the summer it breaks down t 5-20w and doesn’t protect the engine. Just want to make sure and what oil u use ?
Right now I'm using the motul 5w-30. I had my old oil tested that was Castrol edge 5w-30 after 3K miles it was still golden. Make a video on it breaking down oils a few months ago 😁
Smeedia yes just saw it thank you have you tested out the motul 5w-30
Maybe I see it wrong, but are you always shift gears around 3/4 rpm ? Or only on highway?
Thanks for making the video. For the occasional trip to the drag strip, what settings for DCCD would u recommend?
Going to depend on track conditions but I would start in auto and see how the car feels then swap over to manual, start halfway in manual and adjust from there
Smeedia I compared locked and one bar, and I had a significant time decrease. I heard that can be bad for the diff tho?
@@hamzahahmed2642 definitely don't drive with it locked on dry pavement. That is something that you can use on loose gravel or snow. Jeep Rubicons can lock their front and rear differentials for mud, mud snow, gravel, and rock crawling. With both vehicles, the wheels naturally need turn at different speeds on dry pavement. When you lock up the differentials on dry pavement the wheels cannot turn at different speeds like they normally do and will bind up and cause heavy wear on your drive train components. Loose or slippery surfaces allow the wheels to slip greatly reducing the wear on the drive train.
11:35 love the tint on the prius lol
Lmao had to go back and re-watch it 🤣🤣🤣
is it possible to add this to a wrx or would it require a complete center differential swap to be compatible
You'd have to swap the drive train 🙏
Would anyone know why my dccd gauge is flashing just got a 2016 sti and having trouble sorting the problem out,it dose have bc coilovers on it and after market wheels and tires but don’t know if that has anything to do with it
What all lights are flashing?
@@Smeedia the screen where it shows your auto+\-,manu,, it’s flashing and on auto +
I really hate sounding like a fanboy..
Hearing your car driving, and considering you've done so many things I've wanted to do and do myself, hearing how it sounds accelerating I know I have my Protune right..
Sounds exactly like mine! Makes me feel like I'm doing it right!
Only problem was trying to put a full 3" DP+N1 Invidia Exhaust. Too much flow, and would overboost constantly in my '17 STi Limited. Had to go back to the factory DP for now until I can install an up-pipe, external wastegate and boost controller. Just was shocked at how much the factory turbo wants to make boost at 55k miles still!
Not at all and totally acceptable, glad to hear that your build is going the way you want it to 🙌 the turbo wants all of the boost!!!!
Where you get tour steering wheel done at? Or where can I get it done at? I love your channel
Thank you and it is the OEM Type RA steering wheel, I got mine off of Rallysport directs website 🙌
Im protuned by Johnson tuning. I still feel a big difference when going through the VDC modes. Intelligent wont let my boost dont past 8lbs. Sport gives it a nice response. And sport# is too agressive lol. I hate that mode. Its good for racing but normal driving its too agressive and responsive. If i drive in sport mode for a while and switch to sport#, i find my self over revving the car in first gear.
Sounds like it has a solid tine on it and is a lot of fun to drive though 😍
I’m getting a Sti and if I hypothetically wanted to pull ebrake at 60 on a closed course what setting would I need to use
I hypothetically wouldent advise you pull the ebrake
But lock the diff and send it
Hypothetically your deferential might explode and it's not a cheap fix