Cars Using FAKE Engine Sound!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- With emissions laws becoming more strict around the world, manufacturers are finding new an interesting ways of enhancing the driving experience from within the cabin without it making the car louder outside.
One such method is BMW's Active Sound Design or ASD system which uses the car's speaker system to play generated engine sound inside the cabin, but many other manufacturers use similar systems.
In today's video I thought it would be interesting to demonstrate just how much difference this makes in realtime using an app called BimmerLink which allows you to turn the ASD feature on and off while driving.
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What do you think about this technology? Would you turn it off just on principal, do you think it sounds terrible or do you like it?
My GR yaris has the same thing... its not great, just got an exhaust on the car and I can now no longer really hear it thankfully...
I feel like it s cheating and lying to your customers when you sell them a car with fake sound without disclosing it from the start. I hate it like I hate the fake exhaust at the back of mercedes and the like.
it sucks, turned it off on my new BMW X5 45e but now looking for a cold air intake
Pass for me, needs more turbo spool ;)
Personally I think the only use would be being able to make the ASD slightly louder while at a track day with a helmet on so you can get an rpm noise reference instead of watching the lights, with a stock exhaust I mean....next video I wanna hear outside, so Tom's gonna have to hang out the boot with the mic 😜🤣
So a cheaper upgrade to your engine would be better speakers?
lmao
Lol
Lolling
😂
But you said upgrade to Engine ....
I don’t know what’s even real anymore!
Are we living in a simulation?
Yes
I don't hate the idea, but I don't like that you have no way to turn it off without purchasing an OBD adapter. I think it's cool that automotive industry is putting more emphasis on audio. I recently read about Hyundai researching and developing active noise cancelling solution to reduce wind&tire noise. That's an extremely cool technology that I'm sure will become commonplace in not so distant future.
Gives new meaning to the old saying, "all blow, no go".
Well.. not with BMW.. there is always some form of a go. That remark is more suited for the electric vehicles
No wonder I thought the sound was a bit odd when I sit in the car. Thank you for posting this.
I like it and think it is very well implemented. I would rather have an exhaust with electronic baffles to quiet or open the exhaust. Than again that would make it louder for everyone. Cool concept video, glad to see y’all out of the studio for fresh air haha.
The car does have electronic baffles. M-Mode opens them up.
Great vid. My car has a similar system. I like it too.
Also, looking at a phone in a moving vehicle is always a recipe for motion sickness.
Nice one. I have a M2 LCI and did the same test. I understand why people don't like it but I prefer it switched on.
Nice test, Will & Tom! Definitely a good topic with modern cars. More glad than ever to be selling mine.
BimmerLink. That name def cracked me up. Beautiful car Will.
Haha there's an app for everything now!
I don't like he idea, but in practice I actually like it, so I left mine on (OG M2). I do wish they would have given us a somewhat hidden on/off button though, just so there wouldn't be so much harping on it.
I can't stand the fake noise. Coded it off my 335d within days of buying it.
It's like going on a date with a girl that is dolled up in makeup to eleven. You kinda sorta like it, but you also know you are being fooled every second of it.
I have x5 m50d and i like the sound thats being produced by a speaker or whatever it is that gives a nice grunt.
My God... I stay 5 years away from the world of cars and that's what I find when I come back... Next up: Teslas with V8 engine sounds...
It is a tricky shout, I've always been of the opinion that a noisy engine is wasting energy (everything that isn't turned to wheel rotation is a waste really) so I can see improving efficiency would make the engine quieter, so re-adding the noise isn't such a bad idea, having said that, it should be controllable from iDrive so you can turn it off easily if preferred.
It really depends on if the engine is producing the noise and then having it muffled by the exhaust system, or if it’s actually more efficient and quieter as a result.
They’ve done exactly that on the newer models and made the ASD level adjustable from within iDrive.
Is it really improving efficiency?
A lot of things in the car that are meant to restrict the flow of exhaust particles also make it quieter.
This is almost the same as having a sheet of blanket in front of your mouth to restrict the flow of CO2 out of your body
(Though we have to state the rule that you can only inhale through the nose and exhale through the mouth because that's how a car works).
Doesn't do any good, right?
So better efficiency = Better sound
I mean who doesn't love the roaring V8's
Also the new Electric cars are the big enemy not only for a car guys, but for the world too. The lithium is aquired on the mines by the hard working children, old lithium is then poured into the oceans. Killing the corals which are producing 50-70% of oxygen for our world
But the exhaust crackles from cars can also be simulated in the exhaust pipe with a sound box?
i feel your pain getting car sick is the pits, love the ocean also became a no go, thanks for the insight never new, will they have fake engine notes for electric cars, like a Nissan leaf sounding like a v8 supercar
Ita great man, can't wait until dedicates fake engine speaker
I bought a 2017 mustang GTpp a day after you bought your car... But I'm pretty positive you're going to be on track before I get to. Can you do a video explaining what all you did to prep your car for the track and the ins and outs of your first track day. Rules, tech inspection, fluids swap, etc
We’re in lockdown until the end of the year by the looks of it. Won’t be hitting the track any time soon I’m afraid.
You should
hear the Tesla that sounds like a Hellcat, they put speakers on the outside.
Is it the sound of your engine via a microphone somewhere on the car, or is it a recording of another engine added to make this one sound better? That would be a problem for me.
I know it's not specifically your car's engine that's being amplified, but if it's an N55 sound or S55 sound I don't think anyone knows yet. Hopefully not more of the terrible S55 sound... Maybe they used a bit of the N55 sound in the S55 to help it out a bit :)
Watching from inside the Sim Rig, I can feel the difference with the buttkicker XD
The reason you like the sound is because the real sound of a real engine is amazing. Not this fake crap. How can you enjoy something that’s fake
It’s a shame that now manufacturers have an extra excuse not to put effort into the sound engineering of their cars. No wonder singing cars like the LFA got a recent bump in popularity
From what I've read about my Ford Focus RS, it does sound DAMPING so that it's not so loud in the cabin.
The weird thing is I can turn ASD off in my car (2014 428i) with BM3 stage 1 however if you turn off ASD it disables burbles….
Which is better, existing sounds from your engine being amplified/enhanced, or entirely fictional audio that sounds cooler and possibly customizable?
I grew up with the old V8 sound. Great when your driving but when your neighbour is warming there engine up for 15 minutes every morning before going to work at 5 am🤬. If it’s quieter outside but inside you get the great sound then that’s a good thing I’m my book now. 👍 PS most of us drive the sim with head phones so we don’t disturb our loved ones. 🤣🤣🤣
dude! I'm 36 and you definitely reminded me of when I was in high school and the neighbor that live behind our house, close to my room, had a muscle car and would do the same thing every single morning. it would drive me insane, and this is coming from someone who loves muscle cars and that great V8 sound.
Never heard of this until now. No wonder my Arteon sounds like it's drinking protein shakes.
It's amazing that we are forced to have it on all the time...what would it have taken to give us the option to shut it off...really. There are times when it's cool, but for every day driving and long trips, I can do without it.
Just make your own brum brum noises like you did as a kid with toy cars 😅
i dont like this but i also like this. since with sond regulation is now a thing i like it. but i dont like that sound regulation is a thing....
my dad has a M3 i belive 2017 model if i recall right and i dont think (quote me if i am wrong) that it has fake engine sounds. from outside i hear spectacular sounds and from inside it sounds the same just muffled cause of the sound being blocked by the chassie and window.
intresting video
MIND THIS!
i am no expert ive only satt in the M3 like 5 times so take my info with a pinch of salt.
Your dads M3 100% has this unless he’s turned it off.
Its like gold painted jewellery. I'd turn it off on principle and get some real upgrades that improve the actual performance. 🙄
Thats crazy
Is his shoes on the wrong feet🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤣
i have the manual version of this system in my e46 M3. you reach in the back and pull the rear seats down for enhanced exhaust sound.
My 2022 KIA Forte GT has a speaker under the cowl by the windshield. I’ll be disconnecting the harness to it soon.
my old car before and after the after market muffler cost$100 does almost the same
the car have more mid low end drown and not being super loud
but right after 5k rpm they sound almost the same
how can add something like this on my car? is it possible?
Hope BMW builds an electric car with an 8 speed box, an dyou can choose between a variety of engine noises and characteristics. Could simulate a v8 or a highly boosted i6 with the torque curve characteristics and sounds
It just looks so wrong how you sit on the right side while your right foot is out of the car.
You'll get used to it if you were born in a country that sits on the right side 😂
Can this be used on any car ?
I think this should come standard with cars but, also have an option to not have it or switch to toggle on and off.
I used OBD11 to deactivate in my S3
I can’t believe that dongle is legal there?
someone just told me bmw did this and i was like no fuckin way they would pull something this lame, big bruhhhhhh moment
In preparation for Electric Cars...lol
I see a lot of people saying the sound is fake but my question would be, is the sound actually fake and played through the speakers, or is the system pumping out the actual sound of the engine through the speakers? get what I mean? one is fake, the other is just kind of like opening the windows to let the sound in. this should have been a part of the test I would have liked to see on this video. car stationary, system off, windows open and then closed to see how the engine sounds in both scenarios with the ASD off. I'm legally blind and poor so I can't get my own BMW to test this for myself.
No it’s not the actual engine sound. It’s simulated in much the same way computer games generate engine sounds.
What if off sound is also fake but lower volume? 😖😖
I remember there was a renault that did this too :) Pretty cool
Like Porsches Soundaktor. Pulled the fuse on that damn thing. It was atrocious.
Literally gonna get a tesla and replace it with a m3 gtr body. Paint it and then ima Literally take speakers and put them under the car. Then take the 2005 nfsmw bmw noise file and have it coded to my gas pedal. So when I drive I can have my dream sound and my bmw replica and be happy. Ima get loud speakers so it can be close or louder to a straight pipe noise level and since it's from speakers I can "adjust the volume". Practical and amazing
Does not compute! There is a good reason why there are seals on the doors to stop the sound from getting in the cabin for a more relaxed drive.
This coming from someone with a loud 50 year old V8 Capri but that is music made on purpose.
Like the idea but need a v8 grumble and popping !!
is the video of your wife in the simulator your most viewed video? 1.5million views is crazyy
My 2014 RS Clio has various fake noises from past and present Renaults. Sounds fake. Funny though
I like to hear the engine as I'm changing gears so I actually leave it on in my mk8 golf r
But your not hearing the engine, it's like an engine soundtrack on Grand Turismo. You could always make brum brum sounds with your mouth like when you were a kid.
I turned it off right away in my Toyota Zupra
Sweet nasa shirt I wad born in huntsville
Awesome! I visited the rocket center there in 2013. Shame to hear they’re taking the standing Saturn 5 away :(
@@boostedmedia they just tore it down last week. Where r u from I just found the channel tonight. Supposedly it wad under a historical monument law and couldn't be but the way alabama is they made a loop hole saying they'd build it back but no set date so that's a lie.
I live in Aus but we visited in 2013. I'll never forget driving down the highway and seeing the rocket just standing there. Awesome.
@@boostedmedia it's laying on its side now I went by there today lol. It's a shame. Hope yall come back again 1 day.
I had a GTI with fake engine noise. It was annoying. What would drive me crazy is the inability to turn it off, which we are now seeing in some cars. My Challenger Hellcat has no fake engine noise… just a ton of supercharger wine and V8 exhaust noise, and it is glorious.
Also FYI “Bimmer” is pronounced “Beemer.” For some reason when you say beemer in relation to BMW bikes it’s spelled “Beemer” but the same word as it applies to their cars is spelled “Bimmer.” Both being a nickname for BMWs. Pronounced the same but spelled differently. I have no idea why this is.
Does mercedes have this as well 😮
How much of the lift-off burble is fuel injected into the exhaust? Can I turn that off on my M240i?
None of it, it's ECU wizardry. And no, you can't turn it off, not even with a tune.
You can tune it out or even use BimmerLink to switch it off. As you said it’s mostly fuel being dumped i to the exhaust on overrun. Serves no functional purpose as far as I’m aware.
I’d rather see BMW drivers concentrating on using the mirrors and intended directional change BLINKY BLINKY D4M lights that are within their finger tips reach being actually activated ,,not adding a school boy mod of engine on speaker🙈🙄 so sad ,, don’t get me wrong,, I love the REAL sound of a Beamer ,,, But I’d rather know which direction change is intended, not having to second guess,, 90% of the time
Na, turn-off, on principle. What's the point in having that if it's not real.
I do understand, but to me that’s like saying there’s no point in listening to music if you’re not at the concert. It sounds better to me with it turned on so I’m happy. Don’t really care that it’s fake. Then again I drive virtual cars in a simulator for a living so…. 😂
So my duel 12" subs add 150hp?
Yes but only inside the car
@@boostedmedia Trust me, at a red light all cars at the intersection can hear and feel those extra 150hp lol.. my fam thinks im nuts. No its not the most insane but its a minivan with 2,000 watts rms..
You did so much work, all that time, and didnt do the one thing I was waiting 11 minutes to hear. Acceleration without enhancment. He turns it on most of the times. We know how it sounds when its on. Wanted to hear full rev with OFF. One time almost, but you cut it and starts when already high RPM
the bimbolink?
I am disappointed in BMW after seeing this 😮
New cars suck! Even a humble 106 XSI sounds and feels better than this one.
Who the hell buys a powerful car to listen to fake engine sound? Lame.
I think it's cheating the customer and it's not nice.
I consider it to be just the opposite. The OG M2 sounds so good, inside and out, from the factory that there is no need for an aftermarket exhaust. Sorry I can't say the same of the M2C.
For electric car
What happend to harry potter ?
This is honestly just sad
You could route Your exhaust in to car's cabin. That would fix Your desire for real sound.
p.s. and don't blame it on emissions laws. I bet You don't want to hear road noise, wind noise, tire noise, stones in arches etc. That is why manufacturers made improvemvents in sound deadening. And what, everybody around Your car should get hearing damage and go deaf so You could hear "real" engine sound?
that is freaking ridiculous. i had no idea there were cars (other than maybe lame tesla's or some other electric cars) that did this. its a weird world we live in. i dont plan on ever buying a car thats not a 90's car though. i hate modern cars, so i will hopefully never have to put up with this in one of my own vehicles.
Tesla’s don’t add fake engine noise. Interestingly, Ford is adding a fake gasoline smell to it’s electric F-150.
Also, electric cars way outperform gas cars in speed and acceleration.
@@TechShizzleRacing huh, kinda expected teslas to have a mode for engine noise, they seem to have an app for everything else.
and the fake gasoline smell? wow, thats a weird one.
fair enough on electric cars, i know they can be fast. but they just are not the same, not as fun to drive, no gears, no clutch, no powerband. just all power all the time. no skill or technique really needed to drive them. kinda boring from my point of view, but each to their own. i am also kind of bitter about our country planning on banning the import of petrol cars by 2027 and already taxing people buying new petrol cars (such as utes, so they are screwing our farmers) and then subsidizing the cost of electric cars. the amount of waste and pollution this is going to cause with millions of perfectly good petrol cars just being given up on... i dont want to live in a future where i cannot own a petrol car.
so its not electric cars i dont like, its the direction the world, or at least my country/ current government are heading.
there is nothing wrong with electric cars. but there is also nothing wrong with petrol cars.
@@socks2441 Understood. I’ve had and/or driven lots of performance gas cars (everything from a 1968 Camaro up to a Ferrari Italia. I was blown away by my first Tesla drive, so much so that I have 2 Teslas now, and will never buy another gas car. True, you lose the fun of rowing your own gears, but the feeling of being thrown into the seat by a Tesla in Performance mode is no joke.
@@TechShizzleRacing fair enough :-)
@@TechShizzleRacing I've heard from several real car guys with lots of experience with performance cars that Tesla is a bit of a one-trick pony. Once you get over the truly ridiculous acceleration performance of an electric car you are just left with a big heavy passenger sedan.
It's true that I don't have experience in any of the cars you mentioned (other than in simulators), but if I had the choice of any of the cars you mentioned in my garage it almost certainly wouldn't be the Tesla.
So am I the only one that didn’t hear jack shit.
1st like on the video and view
That's gay af, the day I have a sports car it will have an aftermarket exhaust.
lame
3:38 its bloody silly. i use my phone for a gps (google maps exists for a reason), to play music through an aux cable, or podcasts during my often 1hour+ commute home everyday. i was once stuck in traffic so bad and so tired that the music/ podcasts just were not cutting it so i played about 5 full rounds of solitaire on my phone while driving. i personally think it saved me from falling asleep at the wheel. laws are stupid. just use common sense. dont be on facebook while driving 100kmph. but holding your phone to your ear and talking to someone whilst driving with one hand is fine. (assuming you are capable of it, which you should be... but if you are not, obviously dont do it.)
but it is literally the exact same thing as resting your hand on your h pattern shifter while driving and talking to a passenger. either way you are talking and driving with one hand. completely harmless. and yet you are considered a criminal for it and fined. what are they going to make illegal next? drinking some water from a bottle? eating a burger? talking to passengers? changing gears? its nuts.
i obviously wouldnt recommend the solitaire thing i did though. desperate times.
You do know this has been tested many times and every time they found drivers talking to someone on a phone is far more distracting vs talking to a passenger. In fact talking to a passenger barely made a difference whilst drivers talking on phones lane drifted, missed turn offs and other mistakes.
@@craigalexp that's bullshit mate, maybe they tested people who can't drive in the first place. Doesn't mean the few should rule the many. I'm pretty sure if they tested you driving without sunglasses In the evening you would (eventually) prove a worse driver than with them, doesn't mean it should be illegal to drive without them, all I am saying is use common sense. The rules are what they are, I understand and accept that, but if you can't see how silly some of them are I don't know what to say to you.
@@craigalexp go and test it for yourself, hold something up to your ear and talk to yourself, now talk to a passenger. If I had to pick one of those that caused the most risk it would obviously have to be the passenger as you may feel the need to turn to look at them from time to time, human nature. Are we going to make talking to passengers illegal? Having a navigator with a map trying to explain where to go? Arguing in a car? All of these are more 'dangerous' (if you can even use that word in this situation...) than talking on a phone. If it's the talking on the phone, not the driving with one hand that is so 'dangerous' then how come hands free PHONE CALLING is legal. It's the same thing but just without your hand against your head (which I'll have you know Is how I have driven home from work for the last 4 years.. Head resting on hand). You need to get a grip with reality. We should not be fined and controlled for every single thing we do, we as a race are forgetting how to use common sense and think for ourselves. Every day is risk, you cannot completely irradicate it. Stop bubble wrapping yourself and start living a little. Sorry for the rant. Don't use your phone and drive (primarily because it can give you a ticket, but also if you somehow genuinely think it's dangerous and you can't safely do it, then don't, that's fine. Each to their own).
@@socks2441 Your responses are very 'me' focused with no thought on how it effects other road users. It's a fact and it has been tested many times by various countries. "maybe they tested people who can't drive" actually they use the same drivers for three different scenarios. Driving with no passenger or phone, just talking to a passenger and another time just talking on the phone. It has nothing to do with driving one handed it's to do with the human brains thought processes and short memory. As you get older it gets worse. "stop bubble wrapping yourself live a little" since when is driving for transport become an extreme sport that should have some danger. Why should i have to live with some danger because others can't stay off their phones.
@@socks2441 you keep going on about common sense yet you say we should be allowed to talk on a phone and drive? You need to get a grip of reality. Good job endangering lives. Every day I see people on the road with erratic speed, driving in and out of their lane, not paying attention to what they are doing and 9/10 of them are on their fucking phone. You might as well say “we shouldn’t be fined for driving drunk, I can handle my alcohol, it’s not my fault other can’t” 🤦♂️
I've got it on my new Focus ST. In normal mode its nice. In sport mode, it's waaaaay too loud. Ruins the experience.
The “sound guy” was originally right “stupid”.
If you think words like “bimmer link” aren’t laughable and you need fake sound to enjoy your car - you might just be programmed.
Please sit in a room alone and play this video…
(I’m unsubscribing, no programming for me thank you / no…)