Karsten Runquist Is Wrong
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Various footage comes from videos on Karsten Runquist's channel. Here's a link to his channel:
/ @karstenrunquist
I agree with Karsten on this one. People take letterboxd way too seriously. like it or not, most people use this site causally and for the most part it’s basically just a comments section for a movie.
If you have a specific standard for Letterboxd film reviews that’s fine but I don’t think it’s reasonable to think everyone should feel the same way
Yea but then why should we give a shit what he says?
@@maydaymemer4660 you clearly give a shit considering you're lighting up this comments section lol
Letterboxes is supposed to be a kind of social platform. As social beings, sometimes we express our thoughts on film and art with jokes or one-liners.
Karsten does this too, but the reason people listen to him isn't because he writes funny one-liners but also because he sometimes has some genuinely good critiques on film. He is thoughtful sometimes and jokes other times. If he only did one-liners, then I don't think people would take him seriously. He would just be a comedian then. If everyone on letterboxd did one-liners, the site would be somewhat of a joke site. Also criticism is subjective. Sometimes we have 'just' have opinions and sometimes those opinions aren't rational. If I watch 50 movies in a month, in not going to want to extensively review every single one. If one wasn't particularly interesting, I'm probably going to just brush by it.
it's just letterboxd. It's not THE only place you can review a film. It really doesn't matter. People can criticize films how they want. People can criticize criticisms how they want. Karsten can criticize those criticisms how he wants, and you can criticize Karsten's criticisms how you want. But it's just letterboxd.
girl chill.
You do realize that like youre responding to a guy responding to the idea that his friend got made fun of in a comment section by making a video essay about it? Neither people are being chill
It was a five minute video lol and it was more calling out the toxic letterboxd culture @@maydaymemer4660
I’m in the comment section of people criticising a video criticising a critique‘s criticisms
I read a lot of letterboxd reviews and the silly one-liners typically get liked the most with many people joking around with it. I don't understand what Karsten is yapping about. I think more serious reviews deserve more love, especially when they put a lot of effort into them.
What if they can't put as much effort as you'd expect them to?
hey we have the same profile pic
@@josecancela4712 hello brotha
@@mysticfellow9843 judging by the pfp you could either be my soulmate or my biggest enemy, i guess we'll never know fellow thom yorke enthusiast...
bro its just letterboxd
I could give a shit what Karsten has to say about a film. He’s a good follow because he regularly recommends solid work to check out. Solid film criticism isn’t that hard to find, it’s just hard to find people who are still patient enough engage with it and get it pushed into the algorithm.
It’s LETTERBOXD. A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM. I’m more likely to read a one liner review that gets to the point rather than a fucking novel. If you take Letterboxd seriously, i’m not taking you seriously.
Did u support Elon Musk taking over twitter?
no exactly! i used to try to write long reviews about film with criticism but im not a film major so i feel like my input was as useless as my one liners anyways.
If you don't take it seriously, then why are you getting mad at an opinion about it?
i’m sorry but i’m not going on letterboxd to give a filmmaker criticism. that’s not the point of my reviews. people should be able to make meaningful criticism as much as someone is allowed to write something meaningless to the filmmaker. it’s a social media platform. i would hope no filmmaker is sitting in their room late at night reading my reviews and using my comments as a way to make their next movie because what do i know?
And people are allowed to criticize your posts, as well.
I like both, I like when people put a one line review at the top and then their actual review under it.
dude you need to relax go make your own thing
Fully agree with Karsten, just let people post whatever they want. If you want one liners you'll find them. If you want longer more informed opinions they'll be there too, theres this thing called scrolling you know. Like i'm sure theres lots of vidoes on youtube that I don't like but guess what.... I don't have to watch them. Saying that because people like Karsten have a big following so they should be held to a higher standard is a bit unfair. It is very obvious that Letterboxd is basically social media but for film, people take it way too seriously. It's becoming like twitter, where people shit on their favourite creators for not being activists.
Platforms like Rotten Tomatoes, Letterboxed, and the sessions on cinema comment sections
If you have a funny oneliner just tweet it. It has no substance or value as a review.
My least favorite aspect of letterboxd is the "popular reviews" section.
yeah this is pretty lame -- go make your own stuff, don't just try to get views by going for "big" youtubers
Honestly, I watch Karsten to see if I missed any gems in a given month, but as a critic, I find his reviews kind of soulless. I feel like I should be able to figure out his taste in film, but it's so scattershot and random that it's hard to grasp what he routinely likes and what he doesn't. I go by the Dunkey rule where if you can get a vibe for what they like and then they end up either hating something they'd typically like or loving something they'd typically hate, then they've formed a solid ground as a critic and I love vibing with that. It lets me know what his typical responses will be and what I should go to him for. With Karsten, it feels like he's just going through the motions to get reviews out once a week.
As for his video, I'm of two minds. Yes, let people post what they want, but imho, the one line reviews have kind of worn a bit thin on me. I'll do one once in a blue moon, but if your entire brand is just jokes and you're trying to make a name for yourself as a critic, maybe break the format once in a while to show that you can critique? I don't know, I'm conflicted. I don't think his friend deserved to be completely shit on, but people who do put a lot of effort into their reviews often get overlooked for a quick gag post.
Why'd you put Beethoven 5 in the background buddy?
all the clips you’ve taken from his vids are meant to be quick fire reviews donut 😂😂
He’s one of those guys who treat illumination as if they we’re actual hell.yes I’m serious about that.
It's videos like this that make me really miss being able to see the dislikes on a video 😂
I take your point. I do think there is space for a reviewer to give some lengthy and substantive reviews, but also be able to give a short little, "this film was good," if they are making a video summarizing a whole list of films they've watched.
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honestly, the one liner reviews would be pretty cool if they were funny
he`s right. Its pretentious to use Scorcese as an example as well. most people there arent filmbuffs.
I don't necessarily see Letterboxd as a forum for film criticism, though... It's just commentary and opinions. If you want real film criticism, you'll have to go elsewhere.
Where?
@@maydaymemer4660 IMDb and Meta critic are a good place to start
Absurd how much pushback this video has imo
Your criticism of his criticism is extremely pretentious.
Your whole point comes of as "I'm too intellectual for what you're producing, so your produce is worth less than this, in my opinion, intellectual individuals produce. Please become more intellectual or you don't have a place on this website." which is kind of almost also the most liberal take I've ever heard.
Make some of your own content, instead of spending your time piggybacking off of another creator who doesnt know or care that you exist
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Well memed my friend! Epic chungus!
Letterboxd is ultimately a social media platform with countless different perspectives and styles of writing, which is essentially impossible to control without interference from those running the website. And one liners fuel more than half of LB's engagement so obviously they're never going to get rid of them; it is a business just as much as it is a place to discuss cinema. Everything is about perspective, and believe it or not, that video about the ridiculousness of those who want one line reviews gone trying to achieve it through hateful comments, which was from the perspective of a guy receiving those hateful comments, was ultimately just him being frustrated. Which is valid! Just follow who you want to follow; there's your control. I really believe the most this discourse can achieve is scare some cinema newcomers away from joining in on the conversation or delving further into what the medium has to offer. You have to crawl before you can walk and walk before you can run. Whether you like it or not, yes that means allowing people who ARE NOT official critics on a PUBLIC platform to post bare bones or surface level one line reviews. They may influence the creation of further one line reviews but they will probably not influence the general perception of a film's quality. I started with bare bones sentences, and now I'm writing much stronger things. I have no right to say that people shouldn't be writing one line reviews. In fact, I'd encourage it! And if you're expecting people not to make dumb jokes on the internet... then I think you should disconnect your router because you are going to be quite upset with what you find. Or just stick to the Los Angeles book review and stay away from LB. I've also seen some pretty damn good one liners that are perfect microcosms of an individuals experience with a film from great critics. There's nothing wrong with letting the general public get in on it too. Who knows, maybe one of the countless people who made a SAW X (sucks/socks) joke will turn into the next great film critic. No matter how you spin it with talk of logical fallacies, you are ultimately just doing more harm than good through some ninja ass gatekeeping.
I would agree with your definition of it being strictly a social media platform if the site didn't classify posts as reviews and didn't attach them with star ratings. It also does half a dozen other things that try to associate itself as a forum for people who take film seriously. It's not me it's the platform itself. And I'm not gatekeeping the average user. I don't care about their one line reviews. I more so care about people with massive followings, who identify themselves as film critics. Their opinions on film should be more thoughtful than the average user's. And it's important that we hold them to a higher standard of quality to maintain respect for the artform. Nonetheless, thank you for your well worded and well thought out comment.
Ah I see, we just have different opinions about the definition of social media and the standards critics should be held to. I’m always happy to join the discussion even if I say some nonsensical things haha! I checked out a couple of your other videos and you’ve got some great stuff cooking on this channel. Keep it up :)
Just because you want the discourse to be deeper doesn't mean there aren't those of us who find value in brief frivolous meandering. 🤷♂️
well karsten does his actual review usually on here, so i kinda understand that he uses letterboxd in that way, and i think is cool when u find an actual review on there, but also the funny jokes are part of the cumunity
Spot on, I like his format, but he can be very pretentious
mate what are u on about ?? xD just focus on your channel for the time being.
its actually not that deep
not everyone wants to analyse the film they just watched
2:33 what logical fallacy??
it's really not that deep
Why is there a car animation for 50% of the runtime?
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Its kinda funny to see people on the comment section sort of defending the large youtuber from the big bad small creator giving criticism of his “so that happened” style of critique
The idea that it’s “just a comment section stop taking it so seriously” and that “you would be gatekeeping to tell me to stop making letterboxd twitter 2.0” are hypocritical to me because… does ANYONE support Elon’s more lax twitter rules?
Thats what theyre arguing for. Elon’s Twitter Rules but for Letterboxd. It’s not about gatekeeping or not taking things seriously, because they would call for censorship and the enforcement of standards if people started using the snippy, smug laconic style in quote unquote bad faith
if the creator wants to make a video about letterboxd, do that. don't just try to piggyback off a bigger youtuber for clicks, its really distasteful and lazy
@@m3kkR You mad that a youtuber you like was criticized?
karsten is always wrong
Jeremy johns is a dope critic
"how can a fil create social change, if it is too inaccessible"
implying great art has anything to do with social change
It does.
One line reviews are awesome
Why'd you rip off my video bro