That score was wild, very effective. It made my skin crawl. Especially the “Noooooooooo” drone, I hated it but I loved that I hated it. This film got me feeling all the things it wanted me to feel
something I have not seen anyone talking about but that I have noticed: the three titles are yellow, red, and blue. In the first story, "yellow" is mentioned as being a colour tied to youth (it is shown in the eggs cooked and on Airton Senna's helmet); in the second, red is highlighted by blood - human blood. And in the third story, blue is shown in the pool and the water the cult drinks
And that means absolute shit. I'm not saying its a bad catch or anything, just it means nothing in the movie. People who say they love Jorgoses movies are just pretentious film students who like to throw around buzz words like "materialistic,capitalistic,avangarde" and say their favorite movie is the no sound-3 hour long movie of a plant growin from 1921. Great catch tho, the movie fucking sucked
i just finished it. after watching it I said something along the lines of "in most of Yorgos's movies, I feel like an alien at the beginning, and then become a citizen of his uncanny world by the end. in this film, I felt like an alien all the way through, yet somehow understood even more what it meant to be human in the process. there's something poetic about that" so yeah good movie
I took it as being different ways people are controlled. Controlled in an abusive relationship, by the governmental and medical system, and by religion.
Alright, I'm calling it: Karsten Runquist is winning Wimbledon this year. Followed by Karsten and Kursten winning a gold medal in men's doubles at the Paris Olympics
Yorgos’ rise couldnt have been planned any better. People are tired of the same movies with a beat to beat formula. Yorgos and his crazy/genius mind is a perfect antidote to that boring formula.
This was my first time seeing one of his movies. This was u like anything I've seen anywhere. I left the theater feeling confused and creeped out. Wtf did I just see?
As someone who enjoy's straight plays .. it wasn't boring.. it was so shocking.. I felt like it was a figurative take on narcissistic abuse .. like getting lost in somebody's shadow or mental health problem when the victim was going through so much internally themselves already after being trapped in the same relationship for so long.
I feel like I'm in for what I really want in life. Ideas and assumptions can be lesson, adviced and unloved. People just waste time of petty things. I agree on the first part but where people want power, not love. I shrank down being in a failsied world. Anyway never mind. Take time for a film to validate what people really want
@@billyLego4855 I don't know what you're going through but ..if you want something in life, why not make your own safe space so you can be the person you potentially want to be? I did that.. because... People won't always do that for us.. I hope that you stay strong!! It's so important. Because life has .. as the film puts it... Different kinds of kindness. You have to learn how to protect yourself. You have to learn self-preservation.
Alright, I watched it yesterday, and I liked it. Loved the black humor, the disconnected (but actually connected) stories, the commentary on control. It's weird, but good.
I introduced myself to Lanthimos's films about 3 weeks ago, starting with Dogtooth because I wanted my first movie of his to be in his native Greek, and I pretty much immediately fell head-over-heels in love with his style. I've since watched The Favourite, Poor Things, and a couple of his short films and went to see Kinds of Kindness last night. I wanted to get to The Lobster, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, and maybe even Alps before seeing KoK but unfortunately, I wasn't able to. I've definitely been converted to the Church of Lanthimos but I still can only handle one of his films per day at most. Not only was this my first theatrical Lanthimos experience but it was also the first film in many years (probably since some HP midnight releases as a teenager) that I made sure to see on opening day. I had to drive 20 miles to the nearest showing but I gladly would have driven twice that. I'm still processing it and ended up writing about 1k words after getting home from the theater very late last night. I loved it, although Poor Things is still my favorite of his films that I've seen so far and I can absolutely see why some people might hate KoK. It was one of the most emotionally draining movie experiences I've had in a very long time and I probably won't even be able to consider watching it again for at least a week. Which, coincidentally, is about how long it'll be before it starts playing at a closer theater. In my opinion, the biggest problem with the movie is the fact that it's being marketed as a comedy. It is not and I included quite a lengthy (but still almost completely spoiler-free) content warning at the beginning of the review I wrote because I felt it was almost a bit irresponsible not to do so. If I were recommending KoK to someone, I would make sure I emphasized that if there is anything they might have a hard time emotionally dealing with, they should wait to see the movie until they feel they can handle it because whatever it is, KoK most likely shows it in full, unflinching detail. I think the only things I noticed it was mostly free from were any significant traces of racism, homophobia, or transphobia which I found rather refreshing. I'd even go so far as to say there's a strong messy, chaotic bisexual/polyamorous energy throughout the entire film. There are a few funny moments (I actually laughed hysterically during the last couple scenes) but I am firmly of the opinion that KoK is, more than anything else, a horror movie. Everything, from the stilted dialogue and wooden performances to Lanthimos's signature visual style and the number of questions each vignette leaves unanswered, is precisely crafted to unsettle the viewer and it does so masterfully. Seriously, listen to the way Lawrence Johnson (at least, I think that's who it was) delivers his lines towards the beginning of the second vignette or really any of Willem Dafoe's dialogue. The awkward cadence and monotone delivery are too unnerving to be anything but intentional. That's just not how humans speak! Once I realized that all the things I was noting that might be considered "bad" were being done deliberately, I started appreciating the movie so much more.
I found the third antholgy being the most interesting than the film in its entirety. Would love to see that concept and story fleshed out more in a full length film. I wouldn't say that I really "enjoyed" the film, but maybe my perspective will change with further thought and future viewings.
Honestly each part could have been its own 1.5 hour movie. Interesting to ponder why he didn't do that, and how the different thirds connect together...
Third one to me felt the most random just by a little bit. I never quite understood why the cult sought someone with those specific abilities, nor how their communal rules and beliefs worked exactly. I was more interested in Emma Stone's sorta side-journey throughout. However it did end on the most darkly hilarious note in the film, and the acting was still top notch.
My theater was already pretty dead and so many people walked out over time 😭 and when it finally ended I was the only person who stayed to witness the RMF scene. I liked it, but if this is your first Lanthimos film it is pretty jarring
Only one or two people walked out in mine, I only knew because they had ordered food which came after they had already left. A lot of people didn't like the film, though, they were very vocal about it during the credits, but at least they stayed until the end.
@@JackFou Good point. My first one was The Lobster, but for me it wasn’t really jarring, it just left me really distraught. I feel like this movie leaves a massively different impact than some of his other movies
I liked kinds of kindness too, because Yorgos with that cast is pretty much can't miss, but I couldn't help feeling like these were 3 promising, but half written ideas and it would have been better to pick one (I think the first story was the most promising) and develop it into one movie.
5.8/10....I didn't care for this film. Not a fan of anthologies and I agree it was a lazy cop out. I like Dogtooth and The Lobster. but his last three films haven't lived up to his earlier films.
@@SwEtchinmusicThere’s an interview with Yorgos and the cast where they’re asked what it means and they all say they don’t know so friendlypup might be making it up but even if they are I don’t really care because it fits perfectly.
Yorgos's pre-Favourite works always ended with some form of twisted punchline which I've always loved (even regarding that The Favourite and Poor Things ARE my Top 2 favs of his). I'm happy to say that not only was that a return to form here, and that ending you mention a perfect rendition of that... ...but the mid-credits scene may very well have been the HARDEST I ever laughed in a theater in a long, LONG time. Brilliant.
Seeing as this video has no spoilers, I would change the end of the title to “(review)” instead of “(explained)” This will get you more views and clicks from people who haven’t seen the movie yet and don’t want it spoiled. Love the content as always Karsten. Very excited to see this movie!
My take on Kinds of Kindness was that it was an analysis of religion. The first was monotheism with a father figure who you tell your daily habits to, and he instructs on better actions even if it isn’t what you want to do (see Christianity), the second was based in a pseudo paganism of creature lore that fits better within Ancient Greek myth, and the last was entirely modern spirituality via a cult like approach perhaps in response to environmental destruction? I loved it so much
I'm very excited to watch this movie. I've been really invested in Mr. Lanthimos' filmography lately. I've enjoyed Poor Things, The Favourite and The Lobster. It's impressive how he's not ashamed on exploring the human body in a provocative way. At least it's how i see it. He really challenges the viewer. And Kinds of Kindness kinda seems to be the ultimate challenge. I think i'm ready for it. Also the trailers are just incredible.
I’m literally seeing this Film at 12pm. It was in “Select Theaters”. Meaning. I’m fucked, so I gotta drive an Hour out to see it. I HOPE. I get my money’s worth. I’m puttin my trust in “Yorgos”😌🙏🏾 (Update)So I didn’t like it the 2nd time around. It just didn’t feel comprehensive
My favorite thing aboit the movie is that I've never seen a film that felt so New Orleans (where it was it shot in, seemingly, its entirety). That alone raised its score at least half a point for me.
Did Matt Damon get market corrected by Jesse Plemmons? Sometimes they look, even sound, super similar. Big difference is Jesse is a chameleon, and Matt Damon is Matt Damon.
Reminded me of The Alps. He made Poor Things and The Favorite and said: I should get back to my roots and be crazy again, give me the money Hollywood! I dont care if the theaters will be empty or people will just leave, I want money to do my art!
As others have said, this would have been a lot more interesting if it were 1 of these stories more fleshed out. I'm all for interpretation and when a movie doesn't give you all the answers, but there were so many interesting places any one of these stories could have gone, and didn't. Lots of shock factor moments, but eh I don't find this to be that rewatchable. The movie gives off the vibe that Yorgos just knows people will eat this up even if it's half-baked and clearly self-indulgent.
It's kind of disheartening to see multiple reviews talk about the themes, throughlines and message of the film, but emphasize that it's not exactly _enjoyable_, like I get it but I had a blast watching this LMAO (not saying this vid is super like this but ive seen it in other reviews) The vague, weird happenings in each of the stories kept my intrigue really well, I didn't feel the runtime at all and was never bored, I was constantly engaged cuz I couldn't help but be drawn in to the worlds. It was also funny! My theater had multiple laugh out loud moments and Yorgos' dry humor was hitting consistently for me, so many hilarious parts I can recall. Freaky, weird, abnormal stuff is often so fun to watch in my opinion The performances, the sparingly used yet overbearing music, the ending, all the pieces in this fit together so well for me as a concentrated experience. My fav movie of the year so far, Yorgos truly is a freak 😂
I just saw this movie today and the second story really struck me as the strongest in a way. So weird, so graphic... I'm vegan btw maybe that's why, it's the most visceral/gross.
@@arinaz318 Probably because it's the last hour! People got tired lol. I don't think there's any reason the three parts would have to be in the order they were... would they?
Dude this movie had me laughing so much. The first story had me sucked in so much that I wish I could experience 2 and 3 with that same going-in-blind vibe, like having zeroo idea what we're about to get into. Still enjoyed each segment, they all kinda gave me feelings I've never quite felt before? Seeing this wild of a movie on a massive screen felt like kind of a miracle treat. I have so many questions and ya know what I'm not gonna ask any of them
I think many people misunderstood the meaning of the film if you even can call it a meaning. Its about craving being abused and controled, but also even the sheer misantropic power emanating from it and engaging the audience makes it really special. Would you just accept such negative and sarcastic picture of good things (mostly kindness as the title says) if not for this brilliant form like this film? It's a really nice reinvention of nihilism in our culture and a great tool for Lanthimos to express himself.
I'm begging this review to change my mind because I was bored to DEATH in theatres for the whole runtime, trying desperately to find something, anything to appreciate. Just decided to watch it based on the cast and didn't even watch the trailer lol.
i did the same thing. the poster looked cool. maybe i would have liked it if i had a better idea of what i was walking in to. the whole time i sat there thinking "i'm supposed to like this" while fighting the urge to leave.
Saw this with my dad and we both didn't really find the humor in it so it felt like a real drag overall. But at the same time i did appreciate what it was trying to do, just requires a specific taste i guess
I actually love the fact that after the mainstream-appeal-steampunk-fantasy of Poor Things, Yorgos went all out in his slow, low-key, minimal and detached yet still weirdly empathic vibe, evolving his old style further in a way.
The reunion of Lanthimos with his previous co-writer, Efthimis Filippou, with whom he worked on Dogtooth, Alps, The Lobster and Killing of a Sacred Deer instead of his English writers who adapted the last 2 books into the movies he worked on was very telling about the direction this movie was going for in terms of themes and tone.
Was it? I saw it as him accepting the fact he can now be transgressive for a wider audience, he’s almost reveling in it. If it’s meant to be rebellion it comes off like a teenager’s.
I think I have to give it another watch in the future to see how I really feel about it. I only saw it once in the theaters but as of right now Poor Things is my favorite. I did feel the runtime on this because like you said holy shit does it feel suffocating 😅
I see why people don’t like this movie, but I absolutely love it, it’s so surreal and strange and dark and fucked up, but it’s definitely worth it and is really funny and original
I usually LOVE Yorgos Lanthimos but this movie just really didn't gel with me. The excessive runtime left me glancing at my watch and I wish the script had been tightened up (especially during the second act). The performances are great, the vibes are classic Yorgos, but the story didn't do anything for me at all.
I agree. I loved Poor Things! It was artistic and worth the time. I loved the philosophical exploration, as well. Kinds of Kindness was too much, though. Too graphic imo, good actors and performances, but unsettling in a bad way. It may try to tackle deep social issues in an intellectual manner, but this movie was too much.
Even though I was like 'WTF is going on?' for like every scene of the film, it was somehow engaging to me and watched the whole film and I am not even that deep of a cinephile. 😭
I actually didn't know what I was getting into with poor things but I loved it so weird you can't help but find the humor in it looking forward to watching kinds of kindness this weekend
I've seen his mainstream films so far and think this is the best yet. I still need to watch Dogtooth and Killing of a Sacred Deer, though. Bunuel and Lynch are my intro to surrealist film, and Lanthimos sorta picks up where they left off while making films that actually can be enjoyed by the non-film-head. Bravo.
Just came back home from the screening. Immediately felt like it was different from his last two movies, more Lobster-like and I was right. He wrote this movie together with the same guy who wrote all his movies between Dogtooth and Killing of A Sacred Deer. Don’t think I really got the story but I got the vibes!
It's so wild that Poor Things and this film were made, kind of at the same time or one after the other. I'm watching Kinds ..today,just checking one review before if it's worth it.
Perfect timing-I kinda forgot I wanted to see this since I saw the trailer whenever it was that the trailer dropped, and my local theaters don’t list it on the now showing page yet (but it is indeed showing) because it doesn’t fully release until the 3rd, I guess
I’d only watched Poor Things from him before this film and I LOVED it. I’m glad I saw Kinds of Kindness at the cinema. I’m going to get through the rest of Yorgos’ films now
I get the message of Poor Things but it doesn’t make it enjoyable to watch anymore than watching a baby cry for 3 hours, even if the baby has legit reason to cry & it exposes the evils behind the baby crying, still not an enjoyable experience. Even if the end result of seeing the evil behind the crying baby exposed & justice served it does not automatically make the 3 hours of crying baby enjoyable or make me want to re-watch the baby crying (if I find that enjoyable how does that make me any different than the evil person who is making the baby cry). For this reason I hesitate to BUY Kinds of kindness. Repaying evil for evil is also something I do not enjoy because once again, it proves that the original evil was effective in producing more evil. Maybe that is the point, but I can never use the word enjoyable & I don’t think Yorgos wants you to enjoy his movies. He’s actually going for the opposite to expose how we don’t enjoy the corruption most of us are trapped in yet continue to keep participating in the things we hate & contributing to the corruption. The trailer I saw of the Dodge Challenger was enjoyable but I have a feeling that’s going to be one of the few things & once I know the context I might no longer even find that scene enjoyable. The most intriguing part of this movie will be the modern setting, but that will probably just give Yorgos more disturbing new things to implement so idk. The Favourite is probably my favorite. That’s the only Yorgos movie I’ve watched multiple times & can still laugh the 2nd viewing. Red lobster was funny the 1st time because you’re unaware of how horrible the situation is. I don’t think it would be as funny the 2nd time.
Yorgos work with co-writer Efthimis Filippou definitely matched my doomer/nihilistic humor the most. Yet, I find Kind of Kindness to be such a relief. All the main characters' problems are self made by their desperate need for direction or acceptance. They can't live with who they as that never felt enough. It feels like maybe then I don't have to take everything too seriously and make sense of the world when it's all absurd.
i'm actually suprised that people are complaining the film being almost 3 hours long. Suprisingly, i found myself being entirely hooked throughout the film upon watching it and actually wanting more. it could've turn into a series like Black Mirror.
Thank you for this review I was going off my love for Yorgos as an auteur. But then I saw the run time and I needed a little more convincing, you did that! lol On my way now!
This movie is definitely testing the tastes of people who pronounced themselves Yorgos fans with his last two movies, who want the weird characters and aesthetics but still want him to only make conventional crowd-pleasers so that they don’t look like a complete freak for watching his films.
Just because KoK isn't a 'crowd pleaser' doesn't make it some "genius" film, though. Because it's "different" or "unconventional" aka "you just don't get it" is the vibe I'm getting from a lot of people that loved this movie. Pretentious and half-baked imo. Lots of cool parts to it but....
I won't lie, it certainly felt like he asked 3 kindergartners to write a script and then he translated it to film. I couldn't tell if he was seriously trying to make a movie or making a joke film to make fun of movie snobs who think they know everything. My theater kept laughing at what you would think were funny jokes but about 2 hours in I found myself wondering if the audience was even supposed to find those scenes funny after all.
Lots to like and admire here but it felt like watching three pilot episodes that were all just a little too similar. I would have also liked to see the weirdness cranked up a little more. At the moment my second least favourite Yorgos movies after Sacred Deer but definitely deserves a second watch and I expect to get more from it without the weight of expectation.
I almost never find myself wishing for another tv show over a film in a cinema, but I really feel like this could have worked better in an open ended miniseries format. Drop a vignette or 2 whenever on a platform like HBO. Keep the project open ended. Pair the Emma Stones and Willem Defoe’s of the world with new talent for a vignette, see what happens. Give these weird stories a place to be what they are rather than intriguing ideas that never get green lit for a feature length.
That was one of his first scripts, he was too busy to actually realize it. So he used the very long post-production time of poor things to actually film this. So he is not back to weirdness, this is rather the beginning of his style. I think his next movie is gonna be mainstream again, since that is what he has become in a way.
It was a great movie in what it tried to do, giving the audience a feeling of discomfort. However, I would also describe this movie as 'shallow deep'. In the sense that it tries to convince you there is a deeper story in all three, from (spoiler) why a vicious murder cycle is happening, how a man's wife isn't his wife, how a girl can bring people to life, but then to learn there isn't a deeper story. Throughout the film I tried to understand the deeper meaning and truth of the stories, only to find out there is none. And this left me a bit unsatisfied, though I now understand that this movie was never about these deeper truths and more simply about character development.
You should definitely come back because flying Dutchman is amazing and also i always say you haven't been to the Efteling if you didn't do the fairytale forest because it is so iconic
Poor Things happened and Yorgos was like, “oh, do you think you like my movies?!?! DO YOU?!?” releases Kinds of Kindness
I DO! NICE TRY LANTHIMOS
I actually didn't care much for Poor Things beyond the aesthetics, but enjoyed Kinds of Kindness a lot.
@@KarlSnarkssame I recently found out he didn’t write favourite or poor things. KOK is the weirdness I missed from him
@@unclesam6972 Oh he didn't?? Did he only direct them? I did like the Favorite tbh but yeah in a different way than KOK
@@KarlSnarks definitely directed jus not on writing credits
The theme song for this movie Sweet Dreams perfectly encapsulates this movie
‘Some of them want to abuse you’
‘Some of them want to be abused’
Brilliant
For me its:
Some of them want to use you - part I
Some of them want to abuse you - part II
Everybody is looking for something - part III
That score was wild, very effective. It made my skin crawl. Especially the “Noooooooooo” drone, I hated it but I loved that I hated it. This film got me feeling all the things it wanted me to feel
It was “Nostradamus”
@@sammybwoy No, it was "Ne Skotosan" ("They killed me" in Greek). The soundtrack is already on spotify, it's haunting.
Sounded like mosquitos to me
When the guy was revived/being revived, I swear the opera chorus was singing saggy balls or saggy boobs
@@awesumtoast97 🤣😂
something I have not seen anyone talking about but that I have noticed: the three titles are yellow, red, and blue. In the first story, "yellow" is mentioned as being a colour tied to youth (it is shown in the eggs cooked and on Airton Senna's helmet); in the second, red is highlighted by blood - human blood. And in the third story, blue is shown in the pool and the water the cult drinks
Good catch!
And that means absolute shit. I'm not saying its a bad catch or anything, just it means nothing in the movie. People who say they love Jorgoses movies are just pretentious film students who like to throw around buzz words like "materialistic,capitalistic,avangarde" and say their favorite movie is the no sound-3 hour long movie of a plant growin from 1921. Great catch tho, the movie fucking sucked
Hmm, probably not. Deep analysis though
He’s back on his weird shit
Anybody gonna match his freak?
Silly movie--just so silly--as was Poor Things
@@kshooter33// Or the silly one is you because didn't get it
@@kshooter33Both were fantastic. Go watch Fast and the Furious 7 or something more to your liking.
Life gave Yorgos Plemons and he made Plemonade
this comment. 10/10.
i just finished it. after watching it I said something along the lines of "in most of Yorgos's movies, I feel like an alien at the beginning, and then become a citizen of his uncanny world by the end. in this film, I felt like an alien all the way through, yet somehow understood even more what it meant to be human in the process. there's something poetic about that"
so yeah good movie
What a great way to put it!
And then everyone clapped.
Jessie is the continuation of Phillip Seymores’ magic.
That makes SO MUCH SENSE to me!
I remember feeling that back when PTA had Jessie play his son in the Master.
I think the 3 vignettes portray different types of domestic violence with different consequences in a very artsy Yorgo way. Loved the film.
I took it as being different ways people are controlled. Controlled in an abusive relationship, by the governmental and medical system, and by religion.
Each segment portrays how a person's act or feeling of kindness can be manipulated by people who want ultimate control over others.
Alright, I'm calling it: Karsten Runquist is winning Wimbledon this year. Followed by Karsten and Kursten winning a gold medal in men's doubles at the Paris Olympics
Nice profile pic
is your profile pic the album cover from a the smile disc?
@@yayo27 Yes, it is!🙂From the Wall of Eyes album. The artwork is also featured in the "music video"/art video for the song Under Our Pillows
Kirts karts kurts
@@Arawn505 i knew it!! love their music
Yorgos Lanthimos is the kinds of kindness director you never thought would be mainstream but fortunately we live in a poor things world where he is.
Yorgos’ rise couldnt have been planned any better. People are tired of the same movies with a beat to beat formula. Yorgos and his crazy/genius mind is a perfect antidote to that boring formula.
Watch police cops with bodycams. You see many strange things. Kind of Kindness.
@@Arnes.A20agree
This was my first time seeing one of his movies. This was u like anything I've seen anywhere. I left the theater feeling confused and creeped out. Wtf did I just see?
how does Willem Defoe always look like the Green Goblin
Watched the first spiderman yesterday it aged like wine
*in Jesse Plemons voice*
What Kinds of Kindness are you?!
Don't get Plemons.
That thumb nail man what the hell. Karsten has really out Karstened himself here!🔥
i kinda wish his face was one of the masks 🤣
To be fair it was like in the ad for this movie like somehow they may big head mode more spooky
Not trying to spoil your comment but it’s just one of the promo arts made for the film
he got his freak on big time with this one. and don’t we love it.
No
As someone who enjoy's straight plays .. it wasn't boring.. it was so shocking.. I felt like it was a figurative take on narcissistic abuse .. like getting lost in somebody's shadow or mental health problem when the victim was going through so much internally themselves already after being trapped in the same relationship for so long.
I feel like I'm in for what I really want in life. Ideas and assumptions can be lesson, adviced and unloved. People just waste time of petty things. I agree on the first part but where people want power, not love. I shrank down being in a failsied world. Anyway never mind.
Take time for a film to validate what people really want
@@billyLego4855 I don't know what you're going through but ..if you want something in life, why not make your own safe space so you can be the person you potentially want to be? I did that.. because... People won't always do that for us.. I hope that you stay strong!! It's so important. Because life has .. as the film puts it... Different kinds of kindness. You have to learn how to protect yourself. You have to learn self-preservation.
Alright, I watched it yesterday, and I liked it. Loved the black humor, the disconnected (but actually connected) stories, the commentary on control. It's weird, but good.
Connected in what way?
I can't find a connection with the second one. Only the first and third.
@@theblueagate I think the common theme may have been toxic love
@@SaituV2 all three stories have a common theme of abuse. Just different kind of abuse , and the abused give kinds of kindness
I introduced myself to Lanthimos's films about 3 weeks ago, starting with Dogtooth because I wanted my first movie of his to be in his native Greek, and I pretty much immediately fell head-over-heels in love with his style. I've since watched The Favourite, Poor Things, and a couple of his short films and went to see Kinds of Kindness last night. I wanted to get to The Lobster, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, and maybe even Alps before seeing KoK but unfortunately, I wasn't able to. I've definitely been converted to the Church of Lanthimos but I still can only handle one of his films per day at most.
Not only was this my first theatrical Lanthimos experience but it was also the first film in many years (probably since some HP midnight releases as a teenager) that I made sure to see on opening day. I had to drive 20 miles to the nearest showing but I gladly would have driven twice that. I'm still processing it and ended up writing about 1k words after getting home from the theater very late last night. I loved it, although Poor Things is still my favorite of his films that I've seen so far and I can absolutely see why some people might hate KoK. It was one of the most emotionally draining movie experiences I've had in a very long time and I probably won't even be able to consider watching it again for at least a week. Which, coincidentally, is about how long it'll be before it starts playing at a closer theater.
In my opinion, the biggest problem with the movie is the fact that it's being marketed as a comedy. It is not and I included quite a lengthy (but still almost completely spoiler-free) content warning at the beginning of the review I wrote because I felt it was almost a bit irresponsible not to do so. If I were recommending KoK to someone, I would make sure I emphasized that if there is anything they might have a hard time emotionally dealing with, they should wait to see the movie until they feel they can handle it because whatever it is, KoK most likely shows it in full, unflinching detail. I think the only things I noticed it was mostly free from were any significant traces of racism, homophobia, or transphobia which I found rather refreshing. I'd even go so far as to say there's a strong messy, chaotic bisexual/polyamorous energy throughout the entire film.
There are a few funny moments (I actually laughed hysterically during the last couple scenes) but I am firmly of the opinion that KoK is, more than anything else, a horror movie. Everything, from the stilted dialogue and wooden performances to Lanthimos's signature visual style and the number of questions each vignette leaves unanswered, is precisely crafted to unsettle the viewer and it does so masterfully. Seriously, listen to the way Lawrence Johnson (at least, I think that's who it was) delivers his lines towards the beginning of the second vignette or really any of Willem Dafoe's dialogue. The awkward cadence and monotone delivery are too unnerving to be anything but intentional. That's just not how humans speak! Once I realized that all the things I was noting that might be considered "bad" were being done deliberately, I started appreciating the movie so much more.
Yeah I enjoyed the hell out of this one, particularly the first story. He’s on an absolute roll right now and I can’t wait to see what he does next
I found the third antholgy being the most interesting than the film in its entirety. Would love to see that concept and story fleshed out more in a full length film. I wouldn't say that I really "enjoyed" the film, but maybe my perspective will change with further thought and future viewings.
I found the third to be the most difficult to get through, but it’s starting to grow on me as I think about it over time
Honestly each part could have been its own 1.5 hour movie. Interesting to ponder why he didn't do that, and how the different thirds connect together...
Im hearing a lot a out the 3rd part
Third one to me felt the most random just by a little bit. I never quite understood why the cult sought someone with those specific abilities, nor how their communal rules and beliefs worked exactly. I was more interested in Emma Stone's sorta side-journey throughout. However it did end on the most darkly hilarious note in the film, and the acting was still top notch.
@@a7000zo Yeah the cult stuff not being explained had me like what ? But I still enjoyed the 3rd part more than the first 2.
My theater was already pretty dead and so many people walked out over time 😭 and when it finally ended I was the only person who stayed to witness the RMF scene. I liked it, but if this is your first Lanthimos film it is pretty jarring
My theatre was very responsive to this, but still got plenty of walk outs 😂
Only one or two people walked out in mine, I only knew because they had ordered food which came after they had already left. A lot of people didn't like the film, though, they were very vocal about it during the credits, but at least they stayed until the end.
I mean... your first Lanthimos film is going to be jarring, no matter what?
I was in a screening with one other person (which was double than I had for The Fall Guy and Furiosa).
@@JackFou Good point. My first one was The Lobster, but for me it wasn’t really jarring, it just left me really distraught. I feel like this movie leaves a massively different impact than some of his other movies
I liked kinds of kindness too, because Yorgos with that cast is pretty much can't miss, but I couldn't help feeling like these were 3 promising, but half written ideas and it would have been better to pick one (I think the first story was the most promising) and develop it into one movie.
5.8/10....I didn't care for this film. Not a fan of anthologies and I agree it was a lazy cop out. I like Dogtooth and The Lobster. but his last three films haven't lived up to his earlier films.
I don’t think I’ve been this perplexed and interested while watching something in years
RMF
REDEMPTION
MANIPULATION
FAITH
Are you guessing or is that what it really means?
@@SwEtchinmusicThere’s an interview with Yorgos and the cast where they’re asked what it means and they all say they don’t know so friendlypup might be making it up but even if they are I don’t really care because it fits perfectly.
Yes, is this insider info or an interpretation I need to know! Either way, brilliant
For everyone that would like to know, rmf means nothing. Yorgos has stated in multiple interviews that there’s no meaning behind it
The biggest climax for me was seeing him eating his sandwich, such a huge payoff
Yorgos's pre-Favourite works always ended with some form of twisted punchline which I've always loved (even regarding that The Favourite and Poor Things ARE my Top 2 favs of his).
I'm happy to say that not only was that a return to form here, and that ending you mention a perfect rendition of that... ...but the mid-credits scene may very well have been the HARDEST I ever laughed in a theater in a long, LONG time. Brilliant.
Seeing as this video has no spoilers, I would change the end of the title to “(review)” instead of “(explained)”
This will get you more views and clicks from people who haven’t seen the movie yet and don’t want it spoiled.
Love the content as always Karsten. Very excited to see this movie!
Plemonsheads today is our day
I'd love to see Jesse Plemons play Matty Matheson in a biopic.
My take on Kinds of Kindness was that it was an analysis of religion. The first was monotheism with a father figure who you tell your daily habits to, and he instructs on better actions even if it isn’t what you want to do (see Christianity), the second was based in a pseudo paganism of creature lore that fits better within Ancient Greek myth, and the last was entirely modern spirituality via a cult like approach perhaps in response to environmental destruction? I loved it so much
I'm very excited to watch this movie. I've been really invested in Mr. Lanthimos' filmography lately. I've enjoyed Poor Things, The Favourite and The Lobster. It's impressive how he's not ashamed on exploring the human body in a provocative way. At least it's how i see it. He really challenges the viewer. And Kinds of Kindness kinda seems to be the ultimate challenge. I think i'm ready for it. Also the trailers are just incredible.
I’m literally seeing this Film at 12pm. It was in “Select Theaters”. Meaning. I’m fucked, so I gotta drive an Hour out to see it. I HOPE. I get my money’s worth. I’m puttin my trust in “Yorgos”😌🙏🏾
(Update)So I didn’t like it the 2nd time around. It just didn’t feel comprehensive
Tell us how it is!!!
Its expanding tomorrow
It’s 100% worth going out to watch. Yorgos killed it
My favorite thing aboit the movie is that I've never seen a film that felt so New Orleans (where it was it shot in, seemingly, its entirety). That alone raised its score at least half a point for me.
Did Matt Damon get market corrected by Jesse Plemmons? Sometimes they look, even sound, super similar. Big difference is Jesse is a chameleon, and Matt Damon is Matt Damon.
I thought it was Matt Damon when I was watching lol
Reminded me of The Alps. He made Poor Things and The Favorite and said: I should get back to my roots and be crazy again, give me the money Hollywood! I dont care if the theaters will be empty or people will just leave, I want money to do my art!
As others have said, this would have been a lot more interesting if it were 1 of these stories more fleshed out. I'm all for interpretation and when a movie doesn't give you all the answers, but there were so many interesting places any one of these stories could have gone, and didn't. Lots of shock factor moments, but eh I don't find this to be that rewatchable. The movie gives off the vibe that Yorgos just knows people will eat this up even if it's half-baked and clearly self-indulgent.
It's kind of disheartening to see multiple reviews talk about the themes, throughlines and message of the film, but emphasize that it's not exactly _enjoyable_, like I get it but I had a blast watching this LMAO (not saying this vid is super like this but ive seen it in other reviews)
The vague, weird happenings in each of the stories kept my intrigue really well, I didn't feel the runtime at all and was never bored, I was constantly engaged cuz I couldn't help but be drawn in to the worlds. It was also funny! My theater had multiple laugh out loud moments and Yorgos' dry humor was hitting consistently for me, so many hilarious parts I can recall. Freaky, weird, abnormal stuff is often so fun to watch in my opinion
The performances, the sparingly used yet overbearing music, the ending, all the pieces in this fit together so well for me as a concentrated experience. My fav movie of the year so far, Yorgos truly is a freak 😂
Loved this movie so much. The last story was definitely was favorite!
Mine too but a lot of people said that was their least favorite
@@arinaz318 I really enjoyed all of them to be honest. It’s close between the second and the third for me personally.
I just saw this movie today and the second story really struck me as the strongest in a way. So weird, so graphic... I'm vegan btw maybe that's why, it's the most visceral/gross.
@@arinaz318 Probably because it's the last hour! People got tired lol. I don't think there's any reason the three parts would have to be in the order they were... would they?
@@ginsoakedgirl4 Probably because the novelty wore off long ago by that point.
Dude this movie had me laughing so much. The first story had me sucked in so much that I wish I could experience 2 and 3 with that same going-in-blind vibe, like having zeroo idea what we're about to get into. Still enjoyed each segment, they all kinda gave me feelings I've never quite felt before? Seeing this wild of a movie on a massive screen felt like kind of a miracle treat. I have so many questions and ya know what I'm not gonna ask any of them
Walked out--so corny and silly
I think many people misunderstood the meaning of the film if you even can call it a meaning. Its about craving being abused and controled, but also even the sheer misantropic power emanating from it and engaging the audience makes it really special. Would you just accept such negative and sarcastic picture of good things (mostly kindness as the title says) if not for this brilliant form like this film? It's a really nice reinvention of nihilism in our culture and a great tool for Lanthimos to express himself.
I'm begging this review to change my mind because I was bored to DEATH in theatres for the whole runtime, trying desperately to find something, anything to appreciate. Just decided to watch it based on the cast and didn't even watch the trailer lol.
Dull brain
@@gawdizmrude
@@anthonymartensen3164 ya motha
i did the same thing. the poster looked cool. maybe i would have liked it if i had a better idea of what i was walking in to. the whole time i sat there thinking "i'm supposed to like this" while fighting the urge to leave.
That was your first mistake. No one goes to watch Yorgos movie without knowing they're getting into something totally insane and weird as hell
Saw this with my dad and we both didn't really find the humor in it so it felt like a real drag overall. But at the same time i did appreciate what it was trying to do, just requires a specific taste i guess
That's kinda how I felt watching it tonight.
i didn't know there was more in the credits, i missed that. it was too long already and i had to get going lol
I only saw the credits scene cause I was enjoying the credits song so much. Even though I had to pee almost the entire film 😅
I actually love the fact that after the mainstream-appeal-steampunk-fantasy of Poor Things, Yorgos went all out in his slow, low-key, minimal and detached yet still weirdly empathic vibe, evolving his old style further in a way.
The reunion of Lanthimos with his previous co-writer, Efthimis Filippou, with whom he worked on Dogtooth, Alps, The Lobster and Killing of a Sacred Deer instead of his English writers who adapted the last 2 books into the movies he worked on was very telling about the direction this movie was going for in terms of themes and tone.
i watched this film as 3 films, helped get passed the 3 hours (not all at once)
This movie made me laugh my ass off like I haven't in a theater for a long time.
Give me more Lanthimos every time, all the time please
Okay, now I really wanna watch this!
this movie is fucking nuts. it's unsettling, disgusting, brilliant, and funny as hell.
Always love your reviews dude, thanks
Great film! Really enjoyed it. I especially loved the John McEnroe raquet. Genius. 🎾🎾
this film is lanthimos revolting at his newfound mainstream status and i am all here for it
Was it? I saw it as him accepting the fact he can now be transgressive for a wider audience, he’s almost reveling in it. If it’s meant to be rebellion it comes off like a teenager’s.
I think I have to give it another watch in the future to see how I really feel about it. I only saw it once in the theaters but as of right now Poor Things is my favorite. I did feel the runtime on this because like you said holy shit does it feel suffocating 😅
I see why people don’t like this movie, but I absolutely love it, it’s so surreal and strange and dark and fucked up, but it’s definitely worth it and is really funny and original
I usually LOVE Yorgos Lanthimos but this movie just really didn't gel with me. The excessive runtime left me glancing at my watch and I wish the script had been tightened up (especially during the second act). The performances are great, the vibes are classic Yorgos, but the story didn't do anything for me at all.
I agree. I loved Poor Things! It was artistic and worth the time. I loved the philosophical exploration, as well. Kinds of Kindness was too much, though. Too graphic imo, good actors and performances, but unsettling in a bad way. It may try to tackle deep social issues in an intellectual manner, but this movie was too much.
Absolutely LOVED it!
Even though I was like 'WTF is going on?' for like every scene of the film, it was somehow engaging to me and watched the whole film and I am not even that deep of a cinephile. 😭
This is exactly how I felt the whole movie! 💯
i’m way too excited for this movie
bro obv hasnt watched game nights, Plemmons best role
I actually didn't know what I was getting into with poor things but I loved it so weird you can't help but find the humor in it looking forward to watching kinds of kindness this weekend
I've seen his mainstream films so far and think this is the best yet. I still need to watch Dogtooth and Killing of a Sacred Deer, though. Bunuel and Lynch are my intro to surrealist film, and Lanthimos sorta picks up where they left off while making films that actually can be enjoyed by the non-film-head. Bravo.
Just came back home from the screening. Immediately felt like it was different from his last two movies, more Lobster-like and I was right. He wrote this movie together with the same guy who wrote all his movies between Dogtooth and Killing of A Sacred Deer. Don’t think I really got the story but I got the vibes!
Sweet dreams are made of this...
watching this movie made me feel deeply uncomfortable, I've never watched anything that made me feel this way before.
explore his other films, Dogtooth is particular. other suggestions if you like these types of movies. Midsommar, Funny Games (the original)
When they finally watch "The Video" during the second story I was caught so off guard
i read this as a deconstruction of three core american values, free will/power, the place of the family, and purity/sacredness. absolutely hated it.
i saw the teaser for kok and i was immediately hype, completely on board and so down
No way I used to watch your life is strange vines and look at how far you've come 😭❤️
This movie made me feel like i was dissociating 10/10
Saw it last night. It was amazing. Probably the most interesting film I've ever watched.
Watched this as a second date, we where both surprised
Everyone please remember to stay for the after credits scene!!
First time viewer, my gf and I were looking for some analysis/conversation starters after seeing the movie and this was great! Keep it up
I spent the entirety of the last act being distracted by the fact that Jesse Plemons looked like Heston Blumenthal.
Dogtooth is his best film till date , period.
It's so wild that Poor Things and this film were made, kind of at the same time or one after the other. I'm watching Kinds ..today,just checking one review before if it's worth it.
now that’s a thumbnail buddy
Perfect timing-I kinda forgot I wanted to see this since I saw the trailer whenever it was that the trailer dropped, and my local theaters don’t list it on the now showing page yet (but it is indeed showing) because it doesn’t fully release until the 3rd, I guess
Loved The Favorite, Loved Poor Things, and I loved Kinds of Kindness. Yorgos has yet to miss for me.
I’d only watched Poor Things from him before this film and I LOVED it. I’m glad I saw Kinds of Kindness at the cinema. I’m going to get through the rest of Yorgos’ films now
I get the message of Poor Things but it doesn’t make it enjoyable to watch anymore than watching a baby cry for 3 hours, even if the baby has legit reason to cry & it exposes the evils behind the baby crying, still not an enjoyable experience. Even if the end result of seeing the evil behind the crying baby exposed & justice served it does not automatically make the 3 hours of crying baby enjoyable or make me want to re-watch the baby crying (if I find that enjoyable how does that make me any different than the evil person who is making the baby cry). For this reason I hesitate to BUY Kinds of kindness. Repaying evil for evil is also something I do not enjoy because once again, it proves that the original evil was effective in producing more evil. Maybe that is the point, but I can never use the word enjoyable & I don’t think Yorgos wants you to enjoy his movies. He’s actually going for the opposite to expose how we don’t enjoy the corruption most of us are trapped in yet continue to keep participating in the things we hate & contributing to the corruption.
The trailer I saw of the Dodge Challenger was enjoyable but I have a feeling that’s going to be one of the few things & once I know the context I might no longer even find that scene enjoyable. The most intriguing part of this movie will be the modern setting, but that will probably just give Yorgos more disturbing new things to implement so idk. The Favourite is probably my favorite. That’s the only Yorgos movie I’ve watched multiple times & can still laugh the 2nd viewing. Red lobster was funny the 1st time because you’re unaware of how horrible the situation is. I don’t think it would be as funny the 2nd time.
Yorgos work with co-writer Efthimis Filippou definitely matched my doomer/nihilistic humor the most. Yet, I find Kind of Kindness to be such a relief. All the main characters' problems are self made by their desperate need for direction or acceptance. They can't live with who they as that never felt enough. It feels like maybe then I don't have to take everything too seriously and make sense of the world when it's all absurd.
Dogtooth is the only movie tattoo I have, and i love introducing people to his work from it.
i'm actually suprised that people are complaining the film being almost 3 hours long. Suprisingly, i found myself being entirely hooked throughout the film upon watching it and actually wanting more. it could've turn into a series like Black Mirror.
Thank you for this review I was going off my love for Yorgos as an auteur. But then I saw the run time and I needed a little more convincing, you did that! lol On my way now!
This movie is definitely testing the tastes of people who pronounced themselves Yorgos fans with his last two movies, who want the weird characters and aesthetics but still want him to only make conventional crowd-pleasers so that they don’t look like a complete freak for watching his films.
Just because KoK isn't a 'crowd pleaser' doesn't make it some "genius" film, though. Because it's "different" or "unconventional" aka "you just don't get it" is the vibe I'm getting from a lot of people that loved this movie. Pretentious and half-baked imo. Lots of cool parts to it but....
I won't lie, it certainly felt like he asked 3 kindergartners to write a script and then he translated it to film. I couldn't tell if he was seriously trying to make a movie or making a joke film to make fun of movie snobs who think they know everything. My theater kept laughing at what you would think were funny jokes but about 2 hours in I found myself wondering if the audience was even supposed to find those scenes funny after all.
I loved this movie so much. I’ve seen it twice already I’ll be seeing it again soon.
Lots to like and admire here but it felt like watching three pilot episodes that were all just a little too similar. I would have also liked to see the weirdness cranked up a little more. At the moment my second least favourite Yorgos movies after Sacred Deer but definitely deserves a second watch and I expect to get more from it without the weight of expectation.
everytime you post a positive review of a movie i know the movie's going to be not very good
great job posting this, your mom must be proud
I almost never find myself wishing for another tv show over a film in a cinema, but I really feel like this could have worked better in an open ended miniseries format. Drop a vignette or 2 whenever on a platform like HBO. Keep the project open ended. Pair the Emma Stones and Willem Defoe’s of the world with new talent for a vignette, see what happens. Give these weird stories a place to be what they are rather than intriguing ideas that never get green lit for a feature length.
Finally watched this movie a couple days ago. It wasn’t good. Don’t waste your time with it
Literally was thinking about finally watching Dogtooth tonight, it's my birthday, think it'll ruin my day?
undoubtedly
That was one of his first scripts, he was too busy to actually realize it. So he used the very long post-production time of poor things to actually film this. So he is not back to weirdness, this is rather the beginning of his style. I think his next movie is gonna be mainstream again, since that is what he has become in a way.
Yorgos been doing this shit 💯 😤
It’s such a wierd vibe all the way
It was a great movie in what it tried to do, giving the audience a feeling of discomfort. However, I would also describe this movie as 'shallow deep'. In the sense that it tries to convince you there is a deeper story in all three, from (spoiler) why a vicious murder cycle is happening, how a man's wife isn't his wife, how a girl can bring people to life, but then to learn there isn't a deeper story. Throughout the film I tried to understand the deeper meaning and truth of the stories, only to find out there is none. And this left me a bit unsatisfied, though I now understand that this movie was never about these deeper truths and more simply about character development.
Was waiting for this
Just came back from watching. It was definitely a trip of a movie but I had a great time watching it
KOK is light speed better than Poor Things. Yorgos when he sticks to his Greek new wave roots is best form as an artist. Absolutely loved it
Better in what way? More enjoyable? More practical to 99% of sane persons?
You should definitely come back because flying Dutchman is amazing and also i always say you haven't been to the Efteling if you didn't do the fairytale forest because it is so iconic
Just watched Kinds of Kindness, best Yorgos film, 10/10
I’m somewhat concerned at how much I enjoyed this film. I connected with it much more than Poor Things.
I love The Lobster & Poor Things... that's all I gotta say about that.