Yes! Also a loss of closeness (seen here through forgetfulness of his favourite things) with your partner, as you literally give your body to the wellbeing of another. Her husband, in his jealousy and displacement, demands her body back.
Fantastic analysis! For me, I think R.M.F. might stand for the three forms of abusive relationships highlighted in the film. Religious abuse (third story) Marital abuse (second story) Financial abuse (first story)
Let’s say the o.p. was spot on. There was certainly a *far better and less convoluted way* to show all of that. And without animal cruelty or once again showing a creep’s fascination w/ Stone’s nude body.
I thought it was really interesting that all the characters breathed in oxygen, exhaled carbon dioxide. That’s what the o.p. sounded like. Uh, hello? People eat and drink in films all the time. 🙄
The motive that stood out to me the most in every story is self harm. Yes, these people are desperate to be accepted, but most of all, they see no value in themselves. They gave themselves up entirely to an authority, to the ideal lover, or to a faith because they felt directionless without it. To quote AoT, "Everyone was a slave to something" because we all need a purpose to keep pushing on, even if it's based on delusions. These are all goals too demanding to ever be fulfilled and they all lost themselves in the chase.
The husband asking for Liz’s thumb and liver, to me, means “give me your agency, what distinguishes you from other species (opposable thumb); and your rage, your renovation (liver)”, then she reappeared as the phantom of his fantasies. Because her agency and renovation went dead.
I didn't get why she reappeared. But as i was writing this comment and as i read yours, i figured that the thumb and the liver were both metaphorical. She was reluctant in giving those to him, but she loved him so much that she did. And then she was back to her older self which he loved. Definitely the harder one to break down of the three.
To me this film was also about abuser/abused dynamics... how power dynamic and psychological damage can make a victim codependant to the abuser (not because they want to, but it is what they know and how to manage life). People without empathy can be real monsters and people can do and accept horrible things such as self harm, or harming others in a way to feel validated and loved
Interesting It kinda reminds you of the concept of too much of one thing is never good.. too much control.. too much freedom.. too much selfishness too much selflessness.. We need balance.
I can’t believe you actually managed to explain every single detail of this movie, so impressive! I was so confused so thank you so much man, I loved it!
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R.M.F = Raymond M. Frischmann? As for Daniel, "perfectly normal"? I think you misread this part. One of the opening scenes frames him as distinctly abnormal, to the point two observing characters say it explicitly and affirm the audience's thoughts. That trend continues with his demand to rewatch the tape, and his attempt to eat Joe Alwyn. He is very vividly depicted as paranoid and warped in contrast to the other characters, which is why the apparent confirmation at the end holds added impact as a reversal of established expectations. Thanks for your analysis.
Yes exactly he literally tries to suck the blood of someone he shot and is put on anti psychotic meds. He’s genuinely off putting throughout the entire situation. The way he treats her is diabolical, and maybe a person can be tricked into thinking he’s normal because we start out with him, but by the end it’s clear that he’s still cognizant enough to lie about the abuse he’s causing her, and to relate to him at all I’d say is pretty damning.
Brilliant insights and interpretations! I was at a loss after seeing this film, but you cleared things up for me as to the underlying meaning of the film and its message regarding humanistic flaws in our modern perceptions. Thank you for your hard work and contributions.
I was the sound utility on this movie and Efthemis the screenwriter told me and our scripty that this entire movie all three stories are from the dogs perspective. 😂
Watching the first part of the movie made me think of a couple of things. 1. It looked a lot like a codependent relationship (can codependency be one-sided?). Also, a part of me felt like Sarah used to work for Raymond and met Robert after, like how Robert met Emma Stone after disagreeing to crash the car. 2. Religion and how God pushed people to do things to prove their love for him 3. It also felt really meta where if an actor doesn't listen to everything the director says, they are cut out completely from everything.
Their codependency wasn't really one-sided. Raymond was really fascinated by how easy Robert did everything he was told. At the end he could've easily rejected Robert (Rita was already obedient enough to try to kill a man for him) but he knew no one was better than Robert at that job.
So glad I found your analysis. A really eloquent and thoughtful interpretation of the three fables; some ideas I'd thought myself, and others I was excited to have brought to my attention. Great work.
I am really enjoying the analysis of the film, but we need to be very clear when speaking about this scene (min 9:08): Emily's husband RAPES her. It is not a 'sexual act that she is unaware of' or him 'having his way with her.' We MUST call this out for what he did: MARITAL RAPE. - A survivor of multiple S.A.'s and domestic violence, and am an advocate for women in domestic abuse. I would like Lucas to acknowledge his langague when referring to Emily's husband. Even though he 'missed her' and they 'both had a lot to drink that night,' there is no excuse for his actions. They were about him needing to feel powerful in a powerless situation (his wife leaving him, and being a single dad) plenty of men are subjected to such situations, but they do not rape their wives. It is inexcusable and a display of violence towards women.
@@vinicciuspereira He could bleep it instead of appaelling to a culture of s3xual violence... I guess someone didn't learn anyhting from making a video about trying to please everybody! 😅
Amazing analysis! Thank you for helping me connect all the dots. i had so many half-theories about what it all meant, but couldn’t quite pull together how to describe it. However, i hadn’t been able to stop thinking about it and this helped me understand why 👏
The theme of resurrection is also quite interesting here. In the first with the recurring attempts to kill RMF, and him surviving and arriving at the hospital. A person who should have been dead but wasn't. Then in the second with the wife who also, should have been dead but wasn't, and was resurrected (at least in her husband's delusion) at the end of the story. And in the last, with the twins - the first who should have died in the bottom of the pool but didn't, and the other - who had the power to bring others back to life. Im not sure what I make of it, but you can see how in each story the resurrection was a key element in redemption or salvation for the main characters, also with an element of reaffirming a cage or a system of beliefs, control, or approval. Im also not quite sure about the interpretation that this film is taken from the opposite angle of Caligula, I think that Raymond, the husband and then the cult leaders in the last story all show similar themes to Caligula as a character. All have this aspect of omnipotence, but also of benevolence.
I never thought about that damn. It may have been showing that another person's kindness, no matter how toxic, is the life blood that we live on- so much so that without it we would die. And with the return of that "kindness" we are resurrected. Going with those themes though, I'd almost consider Robert to be the one who's resurrected in "the death of RMF"- brought back to life by Raymond finally appreciating his desperation. And In the second story I think the theme of ressurection would still be with Liz ofc, but not because she was found alive when thought dead. Moreso because the image of her that Daniel wouldnt give up was finally ressurected only through her already giving up everything to him, her life included. Ressurected only through Daniel's eyes- even in death. And yeah third story just straight up seals the deal showing that faith itself is powerful enough to make somebody feel/be alive. Or perhaps it boils down to sacrifice, just or unjust. Something must die for something else to be reborn. RMF death->Robert's Security ressurected Liz death->Daniel's Ideal Liz ressurected Rebecca death-> Emily's Faith ressurected
Wasn't since the Northman I was so excited to see a film and I was not disappointed. There was some people in the movie theater with me that clearly had never watched anything like a David Lynch film and clearly did not understand the concepts
Story #1. We are always somebody's pet. Story #2. When you love your pet, loosing our pet is one of the most traumatic experiences you can go through, and grief can take you to really dark places. Story #3. Adopt your dog, mix races are amaizing and unique too, as purebred dogs 🥲
best analysis! putting all of this into one cohesive video is impressive lol having the acts of kindness all involve the same person canonically was what my brain was trying to do so i came up with this here's my theory: chronoligcally we're looking at story 2, then story 1, then story 3. RMF was the pilot that "saved the crew" in Story 2, which is our 1st act of kindness, returning loved ones home. The people who came home actually -weren't- the same people that were lost so RMF's guilty conscience drives him to Willem DaFoe's character in Story 1 to get rid of himself before people noticed. Plemons in Story 1 denying to cause the accident was kindness #2 to RMF for saving his life...or our 2nd act of kindness could be Defoe offering the service to RMF as a mercy kill. either way works for this theory lol ok so essentially at the end of Story 1 we do have our 2nd Kindness/Mercy kill. Which brings us to Story 3 where our 3rd kindness is RMF being revived where he can eat sandwiches again. the end. yay
wow thank you I was wondering where his character appeared in all three but they were so brief I didn't pick up on them, he WAS revived in the 3rd one. omg brilliant.
You sir, are a bright mind ✨️ I wish you success! Great breakdown. I just watched this and still trying to understand this film. But you did good to break it down . But everything aside. This movie was freaking crazy! But couldn't stop watching it!
I'm still thinking about the movie but i think some correlation can be make in the first story about the Garden of Eden, God (Robert) giving Adan everything (even a wife) as long as they follow his instructions, also not being able to have kids, and furthermore maybe all 3 stories have some relation with Christianity or the bible, in the second story there's a Miracle Baby and in the 3rd one there's a Messiah who can bring the dead back to life the same way as Jesus, only to get killed later.
RMF is that old guy in the three stories, in the first he is murdered, in the second he is flying the helicopter where Liz is and the last he is eating a sandwich in the end... Now, what it's suppose to be him? idk ahahahha, but it's for him the name of each story. I really love Yorgos's works fr, nice analysis!
What about the hunger in the middle story. He wasn’t hungry of anything she has to offer …so rejecting her food was a way of rejecting her? Asking foe her liver was a proof of love?
I wished you went color design. There was heavy themes with the use of color in the decor & wardrobe of each character. Blue was all around the vet woman who could raise the dead, red was all around the cult leader. In one scene where he sells the gifts, he says "blue and green stripes represented speed & aggression, and the yellow represents youth." in regards to selling the racecar driver that crashed right before winning the race in the final lap's helmet. As well, fun fact around John Mcenroe's reputation for aggression on the tennis court. If you look through his challenges against the ref, each time, McEnroe's call was correct, and the ref's were wrong. He was right! And now hes known to be a very kind and considerate person as a sports commentator, so hes become kinder, as opposed to in his youthful aggression. Im certain that each color represents something deep in the elements of these abusive relationships.
A hermit is a hermit because of the cultural society he does not want to be part of. Caligula's abandonment of laws and norms is of the same facet. He was compelled, moved in such a way that it dominated his nature and how he acted. No man is an island. Oh, I enjoyed the movie. Subbed ya.
In the Death of RMF, Emma's character was never his new romantic interest. He waited in the lobby to find his replacement and feined interest in her to take his place back again. You talk about Omi representing masculine oppression of women but somehow ignore the woman who also sleeps with the cult members and the fact that there are both men and women in the cult. I came here looking for some insight into the metaphors of this film, but I think you've missed the mark on a number of things.
I didn't like this movie when I first saw it, admittedly bc I was trying to understand and couldn't fully. I still don't like it but this vid made me appreciate it more
I feel like the second one is about how relationships , wether if it's married or still couple relationships , have a toxic and darker side to it rather than the idealic and delusional expectations that people have with one another. For me , I see Daniel as being the true delusional one since , like you said , has a delusional expectations on his wife and sees everyone else as "absurd". While in reality , those people are literally the true normal ones while Daniel isn't. Because he believes himself to be normal and sees others as isn't.
Also I think Emily’s masculine personality was suppose to mean her rushing towards that goal , being of course resurrecting RMF , to approve her cult (which like you said is suppose to represent family) and her dancing which has her embracing her feminine personality was also about her finally getting the approval she wants.
Seems like we got a hell of a lot of crossover. Always glad to see others on the same page with a film that’s so obscure all throughout. Thank you so much for watching!!
it is good for start, but this film is deeper than this. Full of symbols, and hidden gems. Animals on ths scarf, animals (Noe`s ark) on the wall at the kid`s room, and the fish is a returning subject. The "holy water" and the retruning music. There are so much more in the film and this director know what he is doing (based on his other films) thumbs up for yout analysis, but I was ecpected a deeper analysis, and hoped you will cover those what I would not able to see or stich together
I think the major theme was “People are quick to invent theories to explain the unexplainable, so I’ll make a movie that’s incoherently insane and see what convoluted gibberish they come up with and laugh my ass off at their attempts to sound like they had a clue what I was doing.”
References to weight and measuring of weight occurred in all three stories. As well as characters black and white dream sequences and the presence of dogs. What do you think that represents?
@@gogoe.4684 I thinks that there’s so much “strange” things happing that in an first watch brains just give up and keep watching without trying to make sense out of it.
Just want to say how great this breakdown was. Watched like 4 after watching and didn’t agree with them, this is really well thought out and I really appreciate you putting it into words
Wowsers! 🤯 This was such a thorough yet succinct explanation! How is that even possible? I don't know, but somehow you nailed both lol. I watched this movie a couple days ago. I found it to be confusing, but also intriguing, and I couldn't stop thinking about it. This one really stuck to my ribs for some reason. What the hell did I just watch? How did each story relate to each other?? What was the meaning of the R.M.F. character??? What overarching message was Yorgos trying to portray to the audience???? I really enjoyed this movie, but I just had no idea why I did lol. I'm so glad I watched your explanation because it really cleared up all these questions for me. It helped me to understand how and why I could even enjoy a movie that I didn't fully understand, and it makes me appreciate it that much more now. Thank you for that, and this!
Love your annalysis. I just wanted to say that I love the discussion about the posters at the end. But for me, what is really interesting is that they wear masks of themselves. They try to hide their true identity, but it is still visible.
I didn't toy with the idea of turning off the film altogether (something about it kept me attentive), neither did I particularly enjoy it. Sometimes talented people create works to "feed themselves" and this will pay off in the long run with a project more entertaining, deeper and more interesting yet to come. Not a film I would recommend but solidified for me Jesse Plemons as an actor whose work I want to follow. Too many questions and too much vagueness attached to "Kindness" and your research and effort free me to not give it much more thought. Thanks.
So you did a great job with the review! I told some of the scenes with my dad what happens in this movie and he thought it sounded kind of creepy! I saw this movie as well! Going into this blindly having knowing nothing about this movie! I was thinking of this idea for an episode where the main character’s dog gets stolen by two cult leaders who are naked and the cults supports a tree! Also I wanna name the episode “the house of the cult” You can guess what’s that’s a reference to! Also after the main character kills the man cult leader the woman cult leader eats his heart and turns into a creepy angel to kill our main character!
Personally, I think the movie conveys the philosophy that an individual’s dependence on society is based on their inner complexity. Social norms and the rules society tries to impose on groups are paradoxical to the complex beliefs an individual may develop. The meaning we assign to living a “proper” life-such as the common philosophy of the so-called “normal life” with a 9-to-5 job, family, house, and friends-varies depending on how a person is conditioned. This notion of normality, as stated before, is merely a creation of a dominant organization. Such normality can be altered by the decisions of that same dominant entity, as metaphorically portrayed by Willem Dafoe in the film. Our average life is an illusion created by this dominant force, conditioning us to accept it, despite it lacking inherent meaning. When comparing the movie’s philosophy to real life, we can conclude that life has no intrinsic meaning. The lives we lead are conditioned by social norms to such an extent that the concepts of good and evil lose their significance. This movie successfully fulfills Albert Camus’s absurdist theory, which asserts that life has no meaning.
When I use the r-word in my videos, it gets flagged, but I'll refrain from the euphemisms and probably just bleep it out in the future for clarity. Thanks for voicing the concern
@@lucasblue20 I can't speak to what demands youtube puts onto creators, but I was thinking "sexually assaults her", or "sexual violence". I actually found the scene very violent and tense. His desperation to drug her. The way her body is lifeless and the way his violence is shown on her body. It's an upsetting scene. I'd even say the way its framed is a bit conflicted in it's intention. Narrative-wise, it's the end of an important act as it shifts the entire direction of this story while contextualizing earlier scenes. I hope that gives some insight, and some options that help. Best wishes to you
Wait so in the second story, our guy DID hit Liz? But he didn't cut off her thumb or killed her for her liver? He just told her to do that and she did because of loyalty? And her yapping about dogs was what? A dream? She ate humans, her colleages to survive no? What was this about chocolate??
i think that he hit her, and the thumb and liver are just a metaphor to show her obedience and willness to change herself to please him. the dogs were about settling for worse conditions that are maybe more secure and solid, instead of hoping for better things (which she believes are unrealistic and unachieveable). idk about the eating people thing, i think its just in daniels head and is meant to show that she is now changed (pregnant). her suddenly craving chocolate is just a symptom of pregnancy, and also a symbol of acceptance of her shitty reality and relationship.
I don’t understand why you’re so scared of calling a rape a rape. I thought a very clear reason she left her family for the cult is because her husband is literally a psychopath. Please educate yourself if you don’t think what her husband did counts as rape!!!
It was 100% rape, but I read it as the husband knowing it would make her impure so she’d be kicked out of the cult. We have no real idea why she left her family for the cult initially.
@@Will140f Except that the husband is continually asking why she left- Is there someone else? etc. He doesn't know how the cult works because he isn't a part of it- she left one form of abuse for another. He didn't try to get her kicked out of a cult that he knew nothing about- he raped his wife. Full stop.
Me: “We have no real idea why she left” You: “no! The husband keeps asking why she left” We are saying the same thing. Me: “it was 100% rape” You: “he raped his wife, full stop” Again, we are saying the same thing. Our interpretations differ and that’s okay. If you’re actually going to sit there and tell me there is only one single way to interpret a movie, and ESPECIALLY a Yorgos Lanthimos movie, I have news for you.
RMF is Flying. He was the Helicopter pilot on the chopper that brings Liz (the wife character) back to the mainland once she’s found (if we can believe that is really her)
When she was talking to her daughter outside the hotel while her husband was there the infection she was talking about was the impurity from being sexually with her husband and the cult members knew that after seeing her come out of the house and they knew it and rejected her but I don't think she was talking about an actual physical disease to her daughter
I really enjoyed Poor Things but this one was too abstract for my taste. Is one of those give it your own interpretation stories that are good in books but not so much in movies.
You are so right. 2 Days after watching the movie, all the answers came to me as revelations in a dream. I dreamt I was driving a purple mustang and drifting everywhere. I now understand why Emma's character in the third act, drifted so much. If you wish to know why, I understood it in my dream, as I said previously. She drives like a maniac, because drifting is fun with a purple mustang. There you go, you now understand the movie as much as I do 😇
I just moved, so a new setup is in the process, but I HAD to cover this right away. Can’t wait to discuss your thoughts below!
Liz’s changes were signs of pregnancy. During pregnancy feet swell, libido changes, there are weird cravings.
Yes! Also a loss of closeness (seen here through forgetfulness of his favourite things) with your partner, as you literally give your body to the wellbeing of another. Her husband, in his jealousy and displacement, demands her body back.
Then who was the one who came at the door at the end?
@@UNKnoWN-ti5vk As Lucas suggests; the younger, idealised, unchanged version of her.
@@catherinedrake7691 How did she got pregnant tho? Is Psychological Pregnancy a real thing? And if she was real then why would she cut her lung out?
I noted that, too@@catherinedrake7691
Fantastic analysis!
For me, I think R.M.F. might stand for the three forms of abusive relationships highlighted in the film.
Religious abuse (third story)
Marital abuse (second story)
Financial abuse (first story)
Thank you!! And this is way too clever. Religion, Marriage, and Finance might just be spot on. All capable of freeing and imprisoning a person
YOU’RE A GENIOUS
I like it!
Great theory! At first, i thought it standed for
Redemption
Manipulation
Faith
R.M.F
Let’s say the o.p. was spot on.
There was certainly a *far better and less convoluted way* to show all of that. And without animal cruelty or once again showing a creep’s fascination w/ Stone’s nude body.
I thought it was really interesting how prominent food and drinks were in all stories.
agreed! And also dreams
and the importance of being slim/fit
and the dreams and imagination
And animals and violence
I thought it was really interesting that all the characters breathed in oxygen, exhaled carbon dioxide.
That’s what the o.p. sounded like. Uh, hello? People eat and drink in films all the time. 🙄
The motive that stood out to me the most in every story is self harm. Yes, these people are desperate to be accepted, but most of all, they see no value in themselves. They gave themselves up entirely to an authority, to the ideal lover, or to a faith because they felt directionless without it. To quote AoT, "Everyone was a slave to something" because we all need a purpose to keep pushing on, even if it's based on delusions. These are all goals too demanding to ever be fulfilled and they all lost themselves in the chase.
The fact that many characters' names start with R: RMF, Robert, Rita, Rebecca, Ruth, Raymond
The husband asking for Liz’s thumb and liver, to me, means “give me your agency, what distinguishes you from other species (opposable thumb); and your rage, your renovation (liver)”, then she reappeared as the phantom of his fantasies. Because her agency and renovation went dead.
Wow! This is such a smart comment. I will never thought of why thumb and liver. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I didn't get why she reappeared. But as i was writing this comment and as i read yours, i figured that the thumb and the liver were both metaphorical. She was reluctant in giving those to him, but she loved him so much that she did. And then she was back to her older self which he loved.
Definitely the harder one to break down of the three.
No idea how you only have 38k subs. This is one of the best analysis of a movie I've ever seen. And this one is a doozy.
To me this film was also about abuser/abused dynamics... how power dynamic and psychological damage can make a victim codependant to the abuser (not because they want to, but it is what they know and how to manage life). People without empathy can be real monsters and people can do and accept horrible things such as self harm, or harming others in a way to feel validated and loved
Interesting
It kinda reminds you of the concept of too much of one thing is never good.. too much control.. too much freedom.. too much selfishness too much selflessness..
We need balance.
Completely! I think balance is so important for everyone and everyone’s specific balance is a little different
Could RMF mean “Recurring Male Figure”?
Hahaha. I like this one the most!
omg yes. taken from the screenplay
I can’t believe you actually managed to explain every single detail of this movie, so impressive! I was so confused so thank you so much man, I loved it!
Haha so glad I could capture it all (for the most part at least) and so happy I could help you out! Thank you!!
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Finally someone who analysed the movie and not just recap it.
R.M.F = Raymond M. Frischmann?
As for Daniel, "perfectly normal"? I think you misread this part. One of the opening scenes frames him as distinctly abnormal, to the point two observing characters say it explicitly and affirm the audience's thoughts. That trend continues with his demand to rewatch the tape, and his attempt to eat Joe Alwyn. He is very vividly depicted as paranoid and warped in contrast to the other characters, which is why the apparent confirmation at the end holds added impact as a reversal of established expectations.
Thanks for your analysis.
Yes exactly he literally tries to suck the blood of someone he shot and is put on anti psychotic meds. He’s genuinely off putting throughout the entire situation. The way he treats her is diabolical, and maybe a person can be tricked into thinking he’s normal because we start out with him, but by the end it’s clear that he’s still cognizant enough to lie about the abuse he’s causing her, and to relate to him at all I’d say is pretty damning.
Brilliant insights and interpretations! I was at a loss after seeing this film, but you cleared things up for me as to the underlying meaning of the film and its message regarding humanistic flaws in our modern perceptions. Thank you for your hard work and contributions.
I was the sound utility on this movie and Efthemis the screenwriter told me and our scripty that this entire movie all three stories are from the dogs perspective. 😂
Watching the first part of the movie made me think of a couple of things.
1. It looked a lot like a codependent relationship (can codependency be one-sided?). Also, a part of me felt like Sarah used to work for Raymond and met Robert after, like how Robert met Emma Stone after disagreeing to crash the car.
2. Religion and how God pushed people to do things to prove their love for him
3. It also felt really meta where if an actor doesn't listen to everything the director says, they are cut out completely from everything.
Their codependency wasn't really one-sided. Raymond was really fascinated by how easy Robert did everything he was told. At the end he could've easily rejected Robert (Rita was already obedient enough to try to kill a man for him) but he knew no one was better than Robert at that job.
So glad I found your analysis. A really eloquent and thoughtful interpretation of the three fables; some ideas I'd thought myself, and others I was excited to have brought to my attention. Great work.
“Sexual act she wasn’t aware of.” Dude, it was rape.
Agreed. But RUclips can flag vids if you verbally say it on video. That’s probably why he didn’t say it outright.
This video helped me understand the film better! Thank you
The size of shoes thing in the second story sounded to me like a reverse Cinderella 6:34
This is the best breakdown of the film on this website
This is what I was looking for! I applaud you for your smart analysis ! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I felt like I understood a lot of it on the first go-round, but there was more to wrestle with. This is a great deep dive. Thanks!
exactly how I felt
I am really enjoying the analysis of the film, but we need to be very clear when speaking about this scene (min 9:08): Emily's husband RAPES her. It is not a 'sexual act that she is unaware of' or him 'having his way with her.' We MUST call this out for what he did: MARITAL RAPE. - A survivor of multiple S.A.'s and domestic violence, and am an advocate for women in domestic abuse. I would like Lucas to acknowledge his langague when referring to Emily's husband. Even though he 'missed her' and they 'both had a lot to drink that night,' there is no excuse for his actions. They were about him needing to feel powerful in a powerless situation (his wife leaving him, and being a single dad) plenty of men are subjected to such situations, but they do not rape their wives. It is inexcusable and a display of violence towards women.
He can’t say “rapes” during the video because the video could get demonetized
@@vinicciuspereiraok thanks
@@vinicciuspereira He could bleep it instead of appaelling to a culture of s3xual violence... I guess someone didn't learn anyhting from making a video about trying to please everybody! 😅
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Amazing analysis! Thank you for helping me connect all the dots. i had so many half-theories about what it all meant, but couldn’t quite pull together how to describe it. However, i hadn’t been able to stop thinking about it and this helped me understand why 👏
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The theme of resurrection is also quite interesting here. In the first with the recurring attempts to kill RMF, and him surviving and arriving at the hospital. A person who should have been dead but wasn't. Then in the second with the wife who also, should have been dead but wasn't, and was resurrected (at least in her husband's delusion) at the end of the story. And in the last, with the twins - the first who should have died in the bottom of the pool but didn't, and the other - who had the power to bring others back to life.
Im not sure what I make of it, but you can see how in each story the resurrection was a key element in redemption or salvation for the main characters, also with an element of reaffirming a cage or a system of beliefs, control, or approval.
Im also not quite sure about the interpretation that this film is taken from the opposite angle of Caligula, I think that Raymond, the husband and then the cult leaders in the last story all show similar themes to Caligula as a character. All have this aspect of omnipotence, but also of benevolence.
I never thought about that damn. It may have been showing that another person's kindness, no matter how toxic, is the life blood that we live on- so much so that without it we would die. And with the return of that "kindness" we are resurrected. Going with those themes though, I'd almost consider Robert to be the one who's resurrected in "the death of RMF"- brought back to life by Raymond finally appreciating his desperation.
And In the second story I think the theme of ressurection would still be with Liz ofc, but not because she was found alive when thought dead. Moreso because the image of her that Daniel wouldnt give up was finally ressurected only through her already giving up everything to him, her life included. Ressurected only through Daniel's eyes- even in death.
And yeah third story just straight up seals the deal showing that faith itself is powerful enough to make somebody feel/be alive.
Or perhaps it boils down to sacrifice, just or unjust. Something must die for something else to be reborn.
RMF death->Robert's Security ressurected
Liz death->Daniel's Ideal Liz ressurected
Rebecca death-> Emily's Faith ressurected
2nd story. The scene where Emma is eating what is supposedly another person on the island?
Wasn't since the Northman I was so excited to see a film and I was not disappointed. There was some people in the movie theater with me that clearly had never watched anything like a David Lynch film and clearly did not understand the concepts
Story #1. We are always somebody's pet.
Story #2. When you love your pet, loosing our pet is one of the most traumatic experiences you can go through, and grief can take you to really dark places.
Story #3. Adopt your dog, mix races are amaizing and unique too, as purebred dogs 🥲
Very thoughtful points on a very challenging film; well done:)
best analysis! putting all of this into one cohesive video is impressive lol having the acts of kindness all involve the same person canonically was what my brain was trying to do so i came up with this
here's my theory: chronoligcally we're looking at story 2, then story 1, then story 3. RMF was the pilot that "saved the crew" in Story 2, which is our 1st act of kindness, returning loved ones home. The people who came home actually -weren't- the same people that were lost so RMF's guilty conscience drives him to Willem DaFoe's character in Story 1 to get rid of himself before people noticed. Plemons in Story 1 denying to cause the accident was kindness #2 to RMF for saving his life...or our 2nd act of kindness could be Defoe offering the service to RMF as a mercy kill. either way works for this theory lol ok so essentially at the end of Story 1 we do have our 2nd Kindness/Mercy kill. Which brings us to Story 3 where our 3rd kindness is RMF being revived where he can eat sandwiches again. the end. yay
wow thank you I was wondering where his character appeared in all three but they were so brief I didn't pick up on them, he WAS revived in the 3rd one. omg brilliant.
You sir, are a bright mind ✨️ I wish you success! Great breakdown. I just watched this and still trying to understand this film. But you did good to break it down . But everything aside. This movie was freaking crazy! But couldn't stop watching it!
Nice analysis. Worth putting this series in the context of the director's constant themes in films like Dogtooth and the lobster
You're brillant. Thank you for your lecture on this film
You have a great voiceover voice and an engaging narration style. I just stumbled across your channel and will be taking a closer look!
Love it! My thought about 1rst story was like how some people are happy to live a life without changes or a need to choose.
Thanks, bro!! I watched this movie 2 days ago and needed some reading into what I already felt in my gut
lanthimos is a genius, me on the other hand not so much, that's why i'm here :)
I loved your breakdown!! I also really like the RMF theory that it’s Reality Meets Fantasy. I think both work!
I think the author must be having a blast hearing all the meanings people find to RMF
I'm still thinking about the movie but i think some correlation can be make in the first story about the Garden of Eden, God (Robert) giving Adan everything (even a wife) as long as they follow his instructions, also not being able to have kids, and furthermore maybe all 3 stories have some relation with Christianity or the bible, in the second story there's a Miracle Baby and in the 3rd one there's a Messiah who can bring the dead back to life the same way as Jesus, only to get killed later.
I didn’t understand why she caused herself to miscarriage. Was to please him?
@@gogoe.4684wasnt it him abusing her though? i mean, he hit her and gave her the black eye
@@zochaczaja good point
Very good analysis! Thanks!
RMF is that old guy in the three stories, in the first he is murdered, in the second he is flying the helicopter where Liz is and the last he is eating a sandwich in the end... Now, what it's suppose to be him? idk ahahahha, but it's for him the name of each story. I really love Yorgos's works fr, nice analysis!
SUUUCH a great breakdown.😊
What about the hunger in the middle story. He wasn’t hungry of anything she has to offer …so rejecting her food was a way of rejecting her? Asking foe her liver was a proof of love?
I wished you went color design. There was heavy themes with the use of color in the decor & wardrobe of each character. Blue was all around the vet woman who could raise the dead, red was all around the cult leader. In one scene where he sells the gifts, he says "blue and green stripes represented speed & aggression, and the yellow represents youth." in regards to selling the racecar driver that crashed right before winning the race in the final lap's helmet. As well, fun fact around John Mcenroe's reputation for aggression on the tennis court. If you look through his challenges against the ref, each time, McEnroe's call was correct, and the ref's were wrong. He was right! And now hes known to be a very kind and considerate person as a sports commentator, so hes become kinder, as opposed to in his youthful aggression. Im certain that each color represents something deep in the elements of these abusive relationships.
You have a big brain sir! This explained so much. Well done and thank you for your analysis.
Idk if there any Yellowjackets fans here, but Caligula is also referenced in that show. Misty’s pet bird. 👀
A hermit is a hermit because of the cultural society he does not want to be part of.
Caligula's abandonment of laws and norms is of the same facet.
He was compelled, moved in such a way that it dominated his nature and how he acted.
No man is an island.
Oh, I enjoyed the movie.
Subbed ya.
great analysis, man!!! :)
Thank you so much!!
you nail it every time dude. thank u
Thank you for this. It helps a lot to understand.
I enjoyed this film and your analysis of it very much.
In the Death of RMF, Emma's character was never his new romantic interest. He waited in the lobby to find his replacement and feined interest in her to take his place back again.
You talk about Omi representing masculine oppression of women but somehow ignore the woman who also sleeps with the cult members and the fact that there are both men and women in the cult.
I came here looking for some insight into the metaphors of this film, but I think you've missed the mark on a number of things.
wow best explanation! great job!
Your stuff is great man, this video should have way more views that this
I didn't like this movie when I first saw it, admittedly bc I was trying to understand and couldn't fully. I still don't like it but this vid made me appreciate it more
Exactly! Even if it doesn't "fit" my taste, I can still appreciate it's offbeat creativity and how others might enjoy it.
This is sooo helpful, thank you!! 🙏 Yep I was lost 😂
I feel like the second one is about how relationships , wether if it's married or still couple relationships , have a toxic and darker side to it rather than the idealic and delusional expectations that people have with one another. For me , I see Daniel as being the true delusional one since , like you said , has a delusional expectations on his wife and sees everyone else as "absurd". While in reality , those people are literally the true normal ones while Daniel isn't. Because he believes himself to be normal and sees others as isn't.
Also I think Emily’s masculine personality was suppose to mean her rushing towards that goal , being of course resurrecting RMF , to approve her cult (which like you said is suppose to represent family) and her dancing which has her embracing her feminine personality was also about her finally getting the approval she wants.
Seems like we got a hell of a lot of crossover. Always glad to see others on the same page with a film that’s so obscure all throughout. Thank you so much for watching!!
@@lucasblue20 Anytime man 😁👍
Excellent analysis thank you.
My pleasure, thank YOU!
it is good for start, but this film is deeper than this. Full of symbols, and hidden gems. Animals on ths scarf, animals (Noe`s ark) on the wall at the kid`s room, and the fish is a returning subject.
The "holy water" and the retruning music. There are so much more in the film and this director know what he is doing (based on his other films)
thumbs up for yout analysis, but I was ecpected a deeper analysis, and hoped you will cover those what I would not able to see or stich together
I think the major theme was “People are quick to invent theories to explain the unexplainable, so I’ll make a movie that’s incoherently insane and see what convoluted gibberish they come up with and laugh my ass off at their attempts to sound like they had a clue what I was doing.”
I was waiting to hear from you on this one. I really enjoyed it. (now i'll watch the video) :D
Haha I couldn’t wait to upload it, really hope you enjoyed!
References to weight and measuring of weight occurred in all three stories.
As well as characters black and white dream sequences and the presence of dogs.
What do you think that represents?
Your analysis kind of saved the movie for me! Thanks
literally same
Same for me. I consider myself an intelligent woman, but this movie left me feeling so confused.
@@gogoe.4684 I thinks that there’s so much “strange” things happing that in an first watch brains just give up and keep watching without trying to make sense out of it.
@@lucaxquim good point. Yes, I’m looking forward to see it again with this info . Now it makes sense.
Totally! I came out of the movie theater almost running out of it. It was way too painful for me. I liked the analysis better than the movie.
Just want to say how great this breakdown was. Watched like 4 after watching and didn’t agree with them, this is really well thought out and I really appreciate you putting it into words
Wowsers! 🤯 This was such a thorough yet succinct explanation! How is that even possible? I don't know, but somehow you nailed both lol. I watched this movie a couple days ago. I found it to be confusing, but also intriguing, and I couldn't stop thinking about it. This one really stuck to my ribs for some reason. What the hell did I just watch? How did each story relate to each other?? What was the meaning of the R.M.F. character??? What overarching message was Yorgos trying to portray to the audience???? I really enjoyed this movie, but I just had no idea why I did lol. I'm so glad I watched your explanation because it really cleared up all these questions for me. It helped me to understand how and why I could even enjoy a movie that I didn't fully understand, and it makes me appreciate it that much more now. Thank you for that, and this!
Love your annalysis. I just wanted to say that I love the discussion about the posters at the end. But for me, what is really interesting is that they wear masks of themselves. They try to hide their true identity, but it is still visible.
Well said ! Explained a lot
R.M.F. = recurring mf
Great analysis, loved this video!
Cant wait for more videos dawg! Always 🔥 💯
I didn't toy with the idea of turning off the film altogether (something about it kept me attentive), neither did I particularly enjoy it. Sometimes talented people create works to "feed themselves" and this will pay off in the long run with a project more entertaining, deeper and more interesting yet to come. Not a film I would recommend but solidified for me Jesse Plemons as an actor whose work I want to follow. Too many questions and too much vagueness attached to "Kindness" and your research and effort free me to not give it much more thought. Thanks.
another thing i found is each story has a tiny bit to revolve over the idea of having children
So you did a great job with the review!
I told some of the scenes with my dad what happens in this movie and he thought it sounded kind of creepy!
I saw this movie as well!
Going into this blindly having knowing nothing about this movie!
I was thinking of this idea for an episode where the main character’s dog gets stolen by two cult leaders who are naked and the cults supports a tree!
Also I wanna name the episode “the house of the cult”
You can guess what’s that’s a reference to!
Also after the main character kills the man cult leader the woman cult leader eats his heart and turns into a creepy angel to kill our main character!
Personally, I think the movie conveys the philosophy that an individual’s dependence on society is based on their inner complexity. Social norms and the rules society tries to impose on groups are paradoxical to the complex beliefs an individual may develop. The meaning we assign to living a “proper” life-such as the common philosophy of the so-called “normal life” with a 9-to-5 job, family, house, and friends-varies depending on how a person is conditioned.
This notion of normality, as stated before, is merely a creation of a dominant organization. Such normality can be altered by the decisions of that same dominant entity, as metaphorically portrayed by Willem Dafoe in the film. Our average life is an illusion created by this dominant force, conditioning us to accept it, despite it lacking inherent meaning.
When comparing the movie’s philosophy to real life, we can conclude that life has no intrinsic meaning. The lives we lead are conditioned by social norms to such an extent that the concepts of good and evil lose their significance. This movie successfully fulfills Albert Camus’s absurdist theory, which asserts that life has no meaning.
Excellent analysis 👏
cant believe im seeing this this late, as soon as i saw it i literally told my friend i couldnt wait to see your breakdown
Perfect! I enjoyed it as much as the movie.
great job bro thanks a lot
I really enjoyed this movie and this explanation❤
Really wish you hadn't described the date rape scene as "has his way with her" and "sexual act". Come on, bruv
When I use the r-word in my videos, it gets flagged, but I'll refrain from the euphemisms and probably just bleep it out in the future for clarity. Thanks for voicing the concern
@@lucasblue20 I can't speak to what demands youtube puts onto creators, but I was thinking "sexually assaults her", or "sexual violence". I actually found the scene very violent and tense. His desperation to drug her. The way her body is lifeless and the way his violence is shown on her body. It's an upsetting scene. I'd even say the way its framed is a bit conflicted in it's intention. Narrative-wise, it's the end of an important act as it shifts the entire direction of this story while contextualizing earlier scenes.
I hope that gives some insight, and some options that help. Best wishes to you
I keep thinking in the twin dead in the pool. Didn’t she died to force her twin to bring her back to life? Why Emily went to the morgue instead ?
Solid analysis bro.
Albert camus = "ahlbear camoo"
Brilliant - thank you
Wait so in the second story, our guy DID hit Liz? But he didn't cut off her thumb or killed her for her liver? He just told her to do that and she did because of loyalty? And her yapping about dogs was what? A dream? She ate humans, her colleages to survive no? What was this about chocolate??
i think that he hit her, and the thumb and liver are just a metaphor to show her obedience and willness to change herself to please him. the dogs were about settling for worse conditions that are maybe more secure and solid, instead of hoping for better things (which she believes are unrealistic and unachieveable). idk about the eating people thing, i think its just in daniels head and is meant to show that she is now changed (pregnant). her suddenly craving chocolate is just a symptom of pregnancy, and also a symbol of acceptance of her shitty reality and relationship.
I don’t understand why you’re so scared of calling a rape a rape. I thought a very clear reason she left her family for the cult is because her husband is literally a psychopath. Please educate yourself if you don’t think what her husband did counts as rape!!!
It was 100% rape, but I read it as the husband knowing it would make her impure so she’d be kicked out of the cult. We have no real idea why she left her family for the cult initially.
@@Will140f Except that the husband is continually asking why she left- Is there someone else? etc. He doesn't know how the cult works because he isn't a part of it- she left one form of abuse for another. He didn't try to get her kicked out of a cult that he knew nothing about- he raped his wife. Full stop.
Me: “We have no real idea why she left”
You: “no! The husband keeps asking why she left”
We are saying the same thing.
Me: “it was 100% rape”
You: “he raped his wife, full stop”
Again, we are saying the same thing. Our interpretations differ and that’s okay. If you’re actually going to sit there and tell me there is only one single way to interpret a movie, and ESPECIALLY a Yorgos Lanthimos movie, I have news for you.
You cant say the r word on youtube . Its as simple as that as to why its not said in the video. Calm down and grow up
Could you help me to recall where RMF was in the second story?
RMF is Flying. He was the Helicopter pilot on the chopper that brings Liz (the wife character) back to the mainland once she’s found (if we can believe that is really her)
@@Will140f thanks!
best review of this amazing film ive seen as of yet!
I knew this "analysis" was gunna be cooked when he referred to the challenger as "the purple car"
Absolutely accurate
all the characters in the first story are named "r.m" Robert, rita, raymond, ruth
When she was talking to her daughter outside the hotel while her husband was there the infection she was talking about was the impurity from being sexually with her husband and the cult members knew that after seeing her come out of the house and they knew it and rejected her but I don't think she was talking about an actual physical disease to her daughter
I really enjoyed Poor Things but this one was too abstract for my taste. Is one of those give it your own interpretation stories that are good in books but not so much in movies.
''is he still a fly guy clapping if nobody ain't hear it?''
@@HlumeloMatiwane RMF Doom
Ngl, Iwatched this shit w my boys less than an hour ago and we did not get this shit...WTF. Holy dude you coooooked, you need way more views.
Yorgos could've easily said all that in a blog .
You are so right. 2 Days after watching the movie, all the answers came to me as revelations in a dream. I dreamt I was driving a purple mustang and drifting everywhere. I now understand why Emma's character in the third act, drifted so much. If you wish to know why, I understood it in my dream, as I said previously. She drives like a maniac, because drifting is fun with a purple mustang. There you go, you now understand the movie as much as I do 😇